From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 2 07:14:01 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA12439; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:14:00 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA21259 for linux-list; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:13:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA21247 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:13:13 -0800 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA08500 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 07:13:08 -0800 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA05972; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:59:16 -0500 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704021459.JAA05972@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Progress in Ottawa To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:59:16 -0500 (EST) Cc: kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1010 Lines: 21 I signed my `thou shalt not do nasty things with this box' papers for the Indy last night, and I have it from a highly reliable source that it'll be delivered or available for pickup today. I'm leaving in an hour for San Fran and then Mountain View, but I've got a friend here setting it up for me with a serial console on my machine. I _should_ be able to get it booting with that, once I figure out what the filesystem bits have to look like. Many thanks to everyone for the opportunity to work on this, and especially to Kevin Needham for his tireless efforts to help me get my hands on this machine. This is going to be awesome... Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 2 10:01:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA07512; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:01:24 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA21740 for linux-list; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:59:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA21707 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:59:31 -0800 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA16371 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:55:37 -0800 Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02332; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:38:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:38:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199704022338.RAA02332@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199704021459.JAA05972@neon.ingenia.ca> (message from Mike Shaver on Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:59:16 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Progress in Mexico Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 505 Lines: 16 > I signed my `thou shalt not do nasty things with this box' papers for > the Indy last night, and I have it from a highly reliable source that > it'll be delivered or available for pickup today. Good! I talked with the SGI people in Mexico, still no news regarding the Indy arrival. I am going to LinuxExpo to talk about the new Linux RAID-1, 4 and 5 (www.linuxexpo.org). I am leaving tomorrow morning. I will be back on sunday evening, I bet my Indy will be here at my return :-) Cheers, Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 02:20:52 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA20339; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 02:20:52 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA13133 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 02:20:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA13128 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 02:20:18 -0800 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA25553 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 02:20:09 -0800 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08378 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:16:10 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA20840 for linux@relay.engr.SGI.COM; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:17:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199704031017.MAA20840@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Progress in Germany To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:17:42 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 76 Lines: 7 Hi, today for breakfast I head the first X clients running. Yawn, Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 08:13:47 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA18699; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:13:47 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA13894 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:13:10 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA13882 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:13:08 -0800 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA20328 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:13:03 -0800 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA16242 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:12:27 -0500 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704031612.LAA16242@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: The Indy has landed... To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:12:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1135 Lines: 32 [shaver@neon shaver]$ telnet bogomips Trying 205.207.220.72... Connected to bogomips.ingenia.com. Escape character is '^]'. IRIX (bogomips.ingenia.com) login: root Password: IRIX Release 6.2 IP22 bogomips Copyright 1987-1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Last login: Thu Apr 3 07:18:17 PST 1997 on :0 bogomips 1# w 8:07am up 50 mins, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.25, 0.10 User tty from login@ idle JCPU PCPU what demos q0 :0.0 8:02am 4 -csh root q1 205.207.220.57 8:06am w bogomips 2# It would seem, ladies and gentlemen, that we're off to the races! After the conference sessions tonight I'll see about setting up the tftpboot stuff. (Tips welcome!) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Paranoid for money. Sarcastic for kicks. #> #> "They already *KNOW* I am a whacko, Karen. #> That doesn't mean I am *WRONG*." -- mjr@clark.net From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 10:13:57 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA01031; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:13:57 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA27375 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:13:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA27360 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:13:14 -0800 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21583 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:13:05 -0800 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13926 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:09:00 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA21447 for linux@relay.engr.SGI.COM; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:10:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199704031810.UAA21447@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: The Indy has landed... To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 20:10:35 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199704031612.LAA16242@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Apr 3, 97 11:12:26 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3373 Lines: 116 Hi, > [shaver@neon shaver]$ telnet bogomips > Trying 205.207.220.72... > Connected to bogomips.ingenia.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > > IRIX (bogomips.ingenia.com) (Hope this is R4600 - otherwise BogoMIPS won't be too impressive ...) > login: root > Password: > IRIX Release 6.2 IP22 bogomips > Copyright 1987-1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Last login: Thu Apr 3 07:18:17 PST 1997 on :0 > bogomips 1# w > 8:07am up 50 mins, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.25, 0.10 > User tty from login@ idle JCPU PCPU what > demos q0 :0.0 8:02am 4 -csh > root q1 205.207.220.57 8:06am w > bogomips 2# > > It would seem, ladies and gentlemen, that we're off to the races! > After the conference sessions tonight I'll see about setting up the > tftpboot stuff. (Tips welcome!) Assuming you're using a Linux box as TFTP Server here are old versions of my config files. Iff(OS != Linux) while(1){swear();rtfm(damn);swear()} ;-) --- /etc/bootptab ------------------------------------------------------------ # /etc/net/bootptab: database for bootp server (/usr/net/in.bootpd) # Last update Mon 11/7/88 18:03 # Blank lines and lines beginning with '#' are ignored. # # Legend: # # first field -- hostname # (may be full domain name and probably should be) # # hd -- home directory # bf -- bootfile # cs -- cookie servers # ds -- domain name servers # gw -- gateways # ha -- hardware address # ht -- hardware type # im -- impress servers # ip -- host IP address # lg -- log servers # lp -- LPR servers # ns -- IEN-116 name servers # rl -- resource location protocol servers # sm -- subnet mask # tc -- template host (points to similar host entry) # to -- time offset (seconds) # ts -- time servers # # Be careful about including backslashes where they're needed. Weird (bad) # things can happen when a backslash is omitted where one is intended. # # First, define a global entry which specifies the stuff every host uses. # NOTE: THE VALUES BELOW ARE MEANT AS AN EXAMPLE! #allhost:hd=/tmp:bf=null:\ # :ds=145.71.35.1 145.71.32.1:\ # :sm=255.255.254.0:\ # :gw=145.71.35.1:\ # :ts=145.71.35.1:\ # :lp=145.71.35.1:\ # :to=-7200: # Define all individual entries. #hostname:ht=1:ha=ether_addr_in_hex:ip=ip_addr_in_dec:tc=allhost: # # # .diskless:bf=null:\ :sm=255.255.255.0:\ :to=7200: mipsy:hd=/tftpboot/193.98.169.17/:\ :rp=/tftpboot/193.98.169.17/:\ :ht=ethernet:\ :ha=004095e11dc2:\ :ip=193.98.169.17:\ :tc=.diskless: #mipsy:hd=/tftpboot/194.121.228.22/:\ # :rp=/tftpboot/194.121.228.22/:\ # :ht=ethernet:\ # :ha=004095e11dc2:\ # :ip=194.121.228.22:\ # :tc=.diskless: -- snipet from /etc/inetd.conf ----------------------------------------------- bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.bootpd (My bootpd (probably from Slackware 2.0 or 3.0) had to be replaced; it wasn't working at all ...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ /tftpboot/193.98.169.17/ is Mipsy's NFS root, 004095e11dc2 it's 48 bit Ethernet hardware address. Note that the kernel makes some assumptions about where the NFS root is on the server (/tftpboot/); if you change that you need to pass some kernel options. My setup is such that I don't need to pass any options at all. Does that help? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 10:53:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA12542; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:53:18 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA09771 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:52:41 -0800 Received: from gandalf.engr.sgi.com (gandalf.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.44]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA09756 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:52:39 -0800 Received: from gandalf (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA26978; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:51:57 -0800 Message-ID: <3343FC4C.41C6@j.c> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 10:51:56 -0800 From: Jean-Michel X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02S (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lm@j.c, neteng@j.c, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com CC: pittet@basel.sgi.com Subject: Linux on N64?? X-URL: http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4305 Lines: 93 This German Computer magazine claims to have seen a prototype of Linux on N64. I send a msg to confirm the prototype. Cheers JM -- http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > [iX-Minilogo] online [blaue Linie] > > [Aufmacher] Linux for Nintendo 64 > > Jürgen Seeger > > German version > > [Leeraum: 25 Pkt.] > > As early as Comdex fall 95 Netscape Corp. is said to have presented a > port of their Navigator to the Mips CPU based Nintendo 64 behind > closed doors. Talking to iX during the 1996 GUUG meeting, SCO's Doug > Michels, too, regarded alliances with Sega or Nintendo as a "real > option", especially as far as the postitioning of the Network Computer > against the wintel dominance is concerned. > > Insiders assume that Netscape's initiative failed because of a > personal animosity between young entrepreneur Marc Andreessen and the > very conservative Nintendo boss Hiroshi Yamaushi. SCO wasn't able to > follow up their plans, for they have to concentrate their resources to > the development of the 64 bit Unix they have codenamed Gemini. > > And, as has happened before, the internet community, strongly > committed to free software, put things to work, which were not > completed in the commercial field. At the end of last year an Italian > programmers' team got hold of the US version of N64 and a SGI Indy, > including the N64 card. Thus the team ported Linux/Mips to the play > station. Linux/Mips originally had been initiated by the music company > Waldorf (see iX 2/96) and, since the beginning of 1996, has been > ready-to-run on R4x00 CPUs. > > The main difficulties, according to the Italians, were caused by the > port of the X Window System to the N64 I/O hardware. At first they > ported the output routines to the dedicated co-processors. Although > N64-X11 is not yet really stable, legendary 500000 XStones have been > reached so far - running on an ordinary TV set, driven by high > frequency signals. Of course, the quality of the picture is much > better, if an AV cable and a high-quality monitor are used. > > Input media can be either the bundled console (see photograph above) > or a PC keyboard via adapter. The first solution requires a bit of > experience when entering text, because each character is represented > by a 3 degree angle of the analog stick. Internationally less > frequently used characters like the backslash were, therefore, not > implemented. > > Those who buy the optional N64 controller pack, can even save some > data, e. g. personal preferences or WWW hotlists. The prototyp > available at editorial deadline hasn't yet got a reliable network > connection, because there are still problems between the manually > soldered 100 MBit/s Digital 21140 chip and the 93.75 MHz of the R4300i > CPU. > > Like the former Mips RISC OS Linux/N64 works in bi-endian mode and, > therefore, can process data of the two possible byte orders. Yet the > kernel version 2.11 based Linux/N64 doesn't use Nintendo's 64 bit > address mode - which is not really a disadvantage, considering the 4 > MBytes of memory available. A further problem: Nintendo Kyoto > headquarter so far has steadfastly refused to build cards in > significant volumes or to include Linux/N64 in their distribution > channels. Siemens Nixdorf and Silicon Graphics, on the other hand, > have expressed "a lot of interest". "This project could lead to a new > deal in the desktop market", a speaker of the Munich based company > figured. According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian > developers, are going to make the software available under the GPL, so > it can be used free of charge. > > [unsichtbares Pixel] [Leeraum] [Leeraum] > > [iX] > > © Copyright by Verlag Heinz Heise GmbH & Co KG > Veröffentlichung und Vervielfältigung nur mit > Genehmigung des Verlags Heinz Heise GmbH & Co KG > > Letzte Veränderung am 624. März 1997 von js - Kritik, Anregungen & > cetera bitte an den iX-Webmaster -----8<----- Jean-Michel Pittet, jmp@sgi.com Phone:415-933-6149 FAX:933-0513 Silicon Graphics, Inc., 2011 N.Shoreline Blvd,9U-510, Mountain View CA 94043 http://www.sgi.com/Products/hardware/servers/products/Network.html From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 16:24:21 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA04387; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:24:21 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA05128 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:23:48 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA05109 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:23:45 -0800 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA23414 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:23:39 -0800 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA20413; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 19:23:08 -0500 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704040023.TAA20413@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: The Indy has landed... In-Reply-To: <199704031810.UAA21447@kernel.panic.julia.de> from Ralf Baechle at "Apr 3, 97 08:10:35 pm" To: ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 19:23:08 -0500 (EST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1192 Lines: 32 Thus spake Ralf Baechle: > > IRIX (bogomips.ingenia.com) > > (Hope this is R4600 - otherwise BogoMIPS won't be too impressive ...) bogomips 10# cat /proc/cpuinfo Cannot open /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory bogomips 11# dmesg | more dmesg: Command not found. bogomips 12# man dmesg No manual entry found for dmesg. bogomips 13# Not sure...I _think_ it's an R5K, but the packing bits and the machine itself are 3 time zones east. > Assuming you're using a Linux box as TFTP Server here are old versions of > my config files. Iff(OS != Linux) while(1){swear();rtfm(damn);swear()} ;-) Actually (I guess I should have made this clearer...a couple of people have sent tftp help) I meant tips on what should go in the NFS root area. Can I just pull stuff down from davem's private archive and untar, or have things changed since then? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Commando Developer - Whatever It Takes #> #> "See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like #> Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too." - Linus Torvalds From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 3 16:58:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA09482; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:58:02 -0800 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA12556 for linux-list; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:57:30 -0800 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA12543 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:57:26 -0800 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA03472; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:57:09 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA03039; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:57:07 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704041257.ZM3038@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 12:57:06 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "Re: The Indy has landed..." (Apr 4, 12:24pm) References: <199704040023.TAA20413@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver , ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) Subject: Re: The Indy has landed... Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1485 Lines: 41 On Apr 4, 12:24pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > Subject: Re: The Indy has landed... > Thus spake Ralf Baechle: > > > IRIX (bogomips.ingenia.com) > > > > (Hope this is R4600 - otherwise BogoMIPS won't be too impressive ...) > > bogomips 10# cat /proc/cpuinfo > Cannot open /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory > bogomips 11# dmesg | more > dmesg: Command not found. > bogomips 12# man dmesg > No manual entry found for dmesg. > bogomips 13# > > Not sure...I _think_ it's an R5K, but the packing bits and the machine > itself are 3 time zones east. > I assume it's got Irix running at the moment. If so, try 'hinv'. > > Assuming you're using a Linux box as TFTP Server here are old versions of > > my config files. Iff(OS != Linux) while(1){swear();rtfm(damn);swear()} ;-) > > Actually (I guess I should have made this clearer...a couple of people > have sent tftp help) I meant tips on what should go in the NFS root > area. Can I just pull stuff down from davem's private archive and > untar, or have things changed since then? > Ariel....maybe you should put the tar's on netengr.engr:~/dm/alambie on ftp://reality.sgi.com/private/dm/ till I get linux.sgi.com sorted out. There should be everything you need to get multiuser in there. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 12:19:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA03903; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:19:09 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA14559 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:18:04 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA14478 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:17:50 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA00307 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:17:40 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA01566 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:03:34 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704081903.PAA01566@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: serial consoles, sash and other wonders To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:03:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1739 Lines: 44 So damned close we can taste it. I can tftp the kernel off neon, the bootp server is up (but not tested -- anyone have a good way to test without a reboot), and we've got a serial terminal set up. We've still got to get the console working on the serial line, but we should be OK with that. What's got me confused is this, from the archive (I think it's wje's message): On an Indy, the booted kernel (or other program) must be in MIPS ECOFF format. On Moosehead, the kernel must be in ELF format. The "-coff" option to the IRIX ld will cause it to create an ECOFF binary instead of an ELF binary in the final link, even if all the input binaries are in ELF format. If you want to boot an ELF kernel on Indy, you have to boot an indirect loader. You can use the IRIX sash. Put sash in the volume header on the Indy, or in a bootp-able place on the host system. ----- 1) Where's sash? A find / on my Indy didn't turn up anything by that name. 2) What exactly does `bootp-able' mean? If I stick it in /tftpboot/205.207.220.72/sash, does that count? (The Indy is my only IRIX box, and I don't have the installation CDs, so I'm somewhat loathe to go screwing with the disk.) 3) Once I get it booting (pls, pls) will the Linux kernel know how to talk to the serial console? 4) I've just got the kernel as /tftpboot/205.207.220.72/vmlinux. DO I need to add .IP22 or anything? Any ideas? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Welcome to the technocracy. #> #> "you'd be so disappointed #> to find out that the magic was not #> really meant for you" - OLP From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 12:31:51 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA04723; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:31:51 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA18855 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:31:14 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA18552; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:30:31 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA17386; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:26:23 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704081926.MAA17386@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: serial consoles, sash and other wonders To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704081903.PAA01566@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Apr 8, 97 03:03:33 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2487 Lines: 71 Just in case the real experts on this don't answer. I'll give my 0.02 ... Check out the following man pages: dvhtool (1M) - modify and obtain disk volume header information vh (7M) - disk volume header sash is hidden in that volume header. In a normal IRIX system, The ARC PROM boots sash and sash boots /unix. /unix is ELF (32 or 64 depending on the platform) in every IRIX since 6.2 (I think). Used to be ECOFF earlier. sash is ECOFF on Indys and ELF in newer systems as Bill Earl said. One of the things we need to give you are the sources for sash, right ? I'll see what I can do on the sash thing. (Actually was on my TODO list for a while.) : :So damned close we can taste it. :I can tftp the kernel off neon, the bootp server is up (but not tested :-- anyone have a good way to test without a reboot), and we've got a :serial terminal set up. : :We've still got to get the console working on the serial line, but we :should be OK with that. : :What's got me confused is this, from the archive (I think it's wje's :message): : : On an Indy, the booted kernel (or other program) must be in MIPS :ECOFF format. On Moosehead, the kernel must be in ELF format. The :"-coff" option to the IRIX ld will cause it to create an ECOFF binary :instead of an ELF binary in the final link, even if all the input :binaries are in ELF format. If you want to boot an ELF kernel on :Indy, you have to boot an indirect loader. You can use the IRIX sash. :Put sash in the volume header on the Indy, or in a bootp-able place on :the host system. : :----- : :1) Where's sash? A find / on my Indy didn't turn up anything by that :name. :2) What exactly does `bootp-able' mean? If I stick it in :/tftpboot/205.207.220.72/sash, does that count? (The Indy is my only :IRIX box, and I don't have the installation CDs, so I'm somewhat :loathe to go screwing with the disk.) :3) Once I get it booting (pls, pls) will the Linux kernel know how to :talk to the serial console? :4) I've just got the kernel as /tftpboot/205.207.220.72/vmlinux. DO I :need to add .IP22 or anything? : :Any ideas? : :Mike : :-- :#> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation :#> Welcome to the technocracy. :#> :#> "you'd be so disappointed :#> to find out that the magic was not :#> really meant for you" - OLP : -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 12:52:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA05252; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:52:25 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA24085 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:23 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA23997 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:13 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA00762; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:12 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA14047; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199704081948.MAA14047@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Mike Shaver Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: serial consoles, sash and other wonders In-Reply-To: <199704081903.PAA01566@neon.ingenia.ca> References: <199704081903.PAA01566@neon.ingenia.ca> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3666 Lines: 96 Mike Shaver writes: ... > On an Indy, the booted kernel (or other program) must be in MIPS > ECOFF format. On Moosehead, the kernel must be in ELF format. The > "-coff" option to the IRIX ld will cause it to create an ECOFF binary > instead of an ELF binary in the final link, even if all the input > binaries are in ELF format. If you want to boot an ELF kernel on > Indy, you have to boot an indirect loader. You can use the IRIX sash. > Put sash in the volume header on the Indy, or in a bootp-able place on > the host system. > > ----- > > 1) Where's sash? A find / on my Indy didn't turn up anything by that > name. Usually, it is only installed on the volume header, but you can extract it into a regular file using dvhtool. Sometimes you can find it in /stand. To extract sash: dvhtool /dev/rvh Command? (read, vd, pt, dp, write, bootfile, or quit): read Volume? (/dev/rvh) Command? (read, vd, pt, dp, write, bootfile, or quit): vd (d FILE, a UNIX_FILE FILE, c UNIX_FILE FILE, g FILE UNIX_FILE or l)? l Current contents: File name Length Block # sgilabel 512 2 sash 140800 3 symmon 245760 278 (d FILE, a UNIX_FILE FILE, c UNIX_FILE FILE, g FILE UNIX_FILE or l)? g symmon /stand/symmon (d FILE, a UNIX_FILE FILE, c UNIX_FILE FILE, g FILE UNIX_FILE or l)? q Command? (read, vd, pt, dp, write, bootfile, or quit): quit ls /stand/symmon -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 245760 Apr 8 12:26 /stand/symmon > 2) What exactly does `bootp-able' mean? If I stick it in > /tftpboot/205.207.220.72/sash, does that count? (The Indy is my only > IRIX box, and I don't have the installation CDs, so I'm somewhat > loathe to go screwing with the disk.) See the tftpd man page. The default directory for IRIX tftpd is /var/boot/, so /var/boot/sash and /var/boot/vmlinux would do for boot files. If you don't have the installation CD's, I recommend that you back up the disk, perhaps to a second disk (complete with volume header and root partitions), so you can recover from any potential failure. The "cp" command in the prom can be used to copy disk to disk to recover. > 3) Once I get it booting (pls, pls) will the Linux kernel know how to > talk to the serial console? I believe that David Miller had that working. How do you tell linux to use a serial port as the console (in single-user mode)? For IRIX, one does setenv -p console d (for "debug" console, as opposed to the usual "g" for "graphics" console). > 4) I've just got the kernel as /tftpboot/205.207.220.72/vmlinux. DO I > need to add .IP22 or anything? If you put sash and vmlinux in /var/boot, then do boot -f bootp()bootphost:sash from the PROM, where bootphost is the hostname of your IRIX system, and then boot -f bootp()bootphost:vmlinux from sash, all should be well. Note that you can boot an ELF kernel directly from the PROM on an Indy with a newer PROM image (such as the PROM for an Indy R5000 system), so try that first. If it works, your Indy has the newer PROM, and you can forget about sash. By the way, it is pretty easy to write a little program to convert a kernel ELF binary to an ECOFF binary, discarding most of the symbols and other stuff, assuming you have the header files for the file formats. (The result would not be acceptable to many of the tools, such as dbx, but it would be bootable.) For a production linux for the Indy, the most reasonable approach, however, would be to make silo or whatever boot program you are using be ECOFF, so that old PROMs are supported. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 14:37:38 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12088; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:37:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01570 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:35:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01555 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:35:28 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA03453 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:35:25 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA03090; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:31:22 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704082131.RAA03090@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: serial consoles, sash and other wonders In-Reply-To: <199704081948.MAA14047@fir.esd.sgi.com> from "William J. Earl" at "Apr 8, 97 12:48:07 pm" To: wje@fir.esd.sgi.com (William J. Earl) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, davem@caip.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3003 Lines: 72 Thus spake William J. Earl: > dvhtool /dev/rvh > (d FILE, a UNIX_FILE FILE, c UNIX_FILE FILE, g FILE UNIX_FILE or l)? > g symmon /stand/symmon > (d FILE, a UNIX_FILE FILE, c UNIX_FILE FILE, g FILE UNIX_FILE or l)? > q > ls /stand/symmon > -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 245760 Apr 8 12:26 /stand/symmon _Cool_. > > 2) What exactly does `bootp-able' mean? If I stick it in > > See the tftpd man page. The default directory for IRIX tftpd is > /var/boot/, so /var/boot/sash and /var/boot/vmlinux would do for boot files. OK, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure I was on the right track when I read `bootp-able' as `tftpable in the right dir'. > If you don't have the installation CD's, I recommend that you back > up the disk, perhaps to a second disk (complete with volume header and > root partitions), so you can recover from any potential failure. The > "cp" command in the prom can be used to copy disk to disk to recover. That I will do. Will that work with differently-sized drives? > [if I boot with serial console, will Linux use that?] > I believe that David Miller had that working. How do you tell linux > to use a serial port as the console (in single-user mode)? Ugh. On Intel, you have to use a patch. On the SPARC, you just have to set things up right in /dev. I shall hope that it's SPARC-ish on the Indy and poke around for good instructions on that. (I shall also hedge my bets and copy DaveM on this message. =) ) > from sash, all should be well. Note that you can boot an ELF kernel directly > from the PROM on an Indy with a newer PROM image (such as the PROM for an > Indy R5000 system), so try that first. If it works, your Indy has the newer > PROM, and you can forget about sash. I've got an R5K, so that'll make things easier. > For a production linux for the Indy, the most reasonable approach, > however, would be to make silo or whatever boot program you are using be > ECOFF, so that old PROMs are supported. I think that's the plan. I'm having some trouble with the serial console, though. I did an `nvram console d' and that took, but I fear that I've got to set something else, since my serial cable is connected to port 2. The getty I'm running on ttyd2 works fine, FWIW. When I reboot, I get nothing on the serial console until the getty login: prompt. (I can't think off the top of my head as to why I'm using that port, but I think it had something to do with the available cabling. I'm not physically with the machine until 1400 EST tomorrow, but Josh should feel free to step forward and explain it. =) ) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 15:03:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA17508; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:03:06 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA10529 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:00:52 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA10443 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:00:45 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA18336; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:00:37 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA14464; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:00:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:00:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199704082200.PAA14464@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Mike Shaver Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, davem@caip.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Subject: Re: serial consoles, sash and other wonders In-Reply-To: <199704082131.RAA03090@neon.ingenia.ca> References: <199704081948.MAA14047@fir.esd.sgi.com> <199704082131.RAA03090@neon.ingenia.ca> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1868 Lines: 40 Mike Shaver writes: > Thus spake William J. Earl: ... > > If you don't have the installation CD's, I recommend that you back > > up the disk, perhaps to a second disk (complete with volume header and > > root partitions), so you can recover from any potential failure. The > > "cp" command in the prom can be used to copy disk to disk to recover. > > That I will do. > Will that work with differently-sized drives? Yes, but the drive to which you copy the data will have to be bigger, but it will then not appear to be any larger than the original drive. That is, the partition table in the volume header will claim that the second drive is really the same size as the original drive. This is of course ok if you only want the extra drive as a backup. ... > I'm having some trouble with the serial console, though. > I did an `nvram console d' and that took, but I fear that I've got to > set something else, since my serial cable is connected to port 2. The > getty I'm running on ttyd2 works fine, FWIW. Yes, you really need two serial lines, one for the console (port 1, ttyd1) and one for the debug port (port 2, ttyd2). At least, that is the way I control my test system from my host system. Here, we usually use an Annex Ethernet-based serial concentrator for serial ports, and connect via telnet (or the Annex rtelnetd) to the serial ports, which are then wired to the test machines. > When I reboot, I get nothing on the serial console until the getty > login: prompt. > > (I can't think off the top of my head as to why I'm using that port, > but I think it had something to do with the available cabling. I'm > not physically with the machine until 1400 EST tomorrow, but Josh > should feel free to step forward and explain it. =) ) The PROM talks only to port 1, so you are seeing what I would expect. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 15:27:32 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA22278; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:27:32 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA20209 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:26:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA20191 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:26:50 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA16922 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:26:48 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA03675; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:23:32 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: It booooooooooots! To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Cc: kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2655 Lines: 62 >> boot -f bootp()neon.ingenia.ca:/vmlinux Setting $netaddr to 205.207.220.72 (from server neon.ingenia.ca) Obtaining /vmlinux from server neon.ingenia.ca PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 PROMLIB: Total free ram 65208320 bytes (63680K,62MB) Loading R4000 MMU routines. CPU REVISION IS: 00002310 Primary ICACHE 32K (linesize 32 bytes) Primary DCACHE 32K (linesize 32 bytes) R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 512K linesize 128 bytes ARCH: SGI-IP22 CPU: MIPS-R5000 FPU ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 calculating r4koff... 000bd678(775800) zs0: console input zs0: console I/O Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 154.83 BogoMIPS Memory: 60564k/196604k available (792k kernel code, 2988k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.12 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. Linux version 2.0.12 (dm@neteng) (gcc version 2.7.2) #2 Mon Aug 12 04:43:30 PDT6 SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00 tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530 tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530 PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed. WD93: Driver version 1.21 compiled on Aug 12 1996 at 04:20:18 wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B microcode=0d scsi0 : SGI WD93 scsi : 1 host. Started kswapd v 1.3 Vendor: SGI Model: IBM DORS-32160 Rev: W80D Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Vendor: CONNER Model: CFP2107S 2.14GB Rev: 172B Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4197405 [2049 MB] [2.0 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4194304 [2048 MB] [2.0 GB] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:0a:2a:9b Partition check: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............ Doesn't seem to want to find the server again for the NFS root thing, but that's probably a config problem. _Now_ we're ready to rock... Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- Head geek -- System exorcist #> #> "Have you considered a life? I hear they're quite affordable #> these days." --- shields@tembel.org From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 16:38:51 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA17060; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:38:50 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA15512 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:38:10 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA15479 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:38:07 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA00227; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:37:59 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA14690; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:37:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:37:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199704082337.QAA14690@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Mike Shaver Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! In-Reply-To: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> References: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 529 Lines: 18 Mike Shaver writes: > >> boot -f bootp()neon.ingenia.ca:/vmlinux > Setting $netaddr to 205.207.220.72 (from server neon.ingenia.ca) > Obtaining /vmlinux from server neon.ingenia.ca > PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 > PROMLIB: Total free ram 65208320 bytes (63680K,62MB) > Loading R4000 MMU routines. > CPU REVISION IS: 00002310 ... Congratulations -- quick work. ... > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. ... This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 17:02:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA06881; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:34 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA24761 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:02 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA24735 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:01:59 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA08455 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:01:57 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA04813; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:56:31 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704082356.TAA04813@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! In-Reply-To: <9704091148.ZM9065@windy.wellington.sgi.com> from Alistair Lambie at "Apr 9, 97 11:48:25 am" To: alambie@wellington.sgi.com (Alistair Lambie) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1474 Lines: 35 Thus spake Alistair Lambie: > I used to have that...you probably haven't got a rarp server set up, so it > can't find its address. One of the things David was going to add was that > ability to read it out of NVRAM...but that wasn't high on the priority list! > For now, the only way is to have a rarp server. Actually, you can do it with boot -f bootp()server:/vmlinux nfsaddrs=my.ip.ad.dr:nfs.ip.ad.dr It mounts it now (I have the NFS daemon running with debugging on so that I can watch) but it just stops after it looks at tty[4123 -- in that order]. I'm going to see how the SPARC guys did it; I think it's just a matter of getting the device entries correct. > Did you get my root filesystem etc off http://reality.sgi.com/ariel/alambie. > This should give you the bits you need to get multiuser (init), set up > networking and mount disks. Yeah, and that's what I'm using for my root filesystem. It mounts everything and checks out stuff like /var/log/utmp (!), but then hangs after it looks at the ttys. Curious... Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Resident Linux bigot and kernel hacker. (OOPS!) #> `If you get bitten by a bug, tough luck...the one thing I won't do #> is feel sorry for you. In fact, I might ask you to do it all over #> again, just to get more information. I'm a heartless bastard.' #> -- Linus Torvalds (on development kernels) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 17:01:44 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA06752; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:01:44 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA24404 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:01:03 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA24390 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:01:01 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA02282; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:00:51 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA14784; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:00:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:00:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199704090000.RAA14784@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: "Alistair Lambie" Cc: Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! In-Reply-To: <9704091148.ZM9065@windy.wellington.sgi.com> References: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091148.ZM9065@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1187 Lines: 29 Alistair Lambie writes: > On Apr 9, 10:27am, Mike Shaver wrote: > > Subject: It booooooooooots! > > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............ > > > > Doesn't seem to want to find the server again for the NFS root thing, > > but that's probably a config problem. > > > > I used to have that...you probably haven't got a rarp server set up, so it > can't find its address. One of the things David was going to add was that > ability to read it out of NVRAM...but that wasn't high on the priority list! > For now, the only way is to have a rarp server. The other way is to have the > root file system on hard disk....but to do that you need to boot linux and copy > it across. > Kind of the chicken and the egg situation! Can you pass the information to the kernel via the command line arguments or the environment variables? (argc, argv, and environ are passed in $a0, $a1, and $a2 by the PROM or sash to the kernel on entry, just as they are passed to a main program in a regular process; you can look for the "netaddr" environment variable to find your IP address: netaddr=192.111.24.24 Set netaddr at the prom this way: setenv -p netaddr 192.111.24.24 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 17:02:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA07343; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:54 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA24880 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:19 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA24870 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:18 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) for <@ares.esd.sgi.com:linux@engr.sgi.com> id RAA02548; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:17 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA14801; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:02:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199704090002.RAA14801@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! In-Reply-To: <9704091140.ZM8508@windy.wellington.sgi.com> References: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> <199704082337.QAA14690@fir.esd.sgi.com> <9704091140.ZM8508@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 997 Lines: 23 Alistair Lambie writes: > On Apr 9, 11:38am, William J. Earl wrote: > > Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! > > Mike Shaver writes: ... > > > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. > > ... > > > > This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. > > I don't think David ever worked on an R5000. The only platforms were R4600 & > R4400...soooo, there may be some issues to be resolved. ... On an Indy, the R5000 and R4600 are basically equivalent, except for the MIPS IV extensions and larger caches (32 KB versus 16 KB) on the R5000. The R5000 does have built-in secondary cache control, which is used on the O2, but it is not used on the Indy. On the Indy, the R5000 uses the same off-chip secondary cache controller as the R4600. The wait instruction operates the same on both processors. The wait instruction is not really essential in any case, since its main purpose is to save power, and the R5000 and R4600 don't use much power anyway. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 19:12:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA01616; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:12:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA04880 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:10:57 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA04851 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:10:50 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA03728 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:10:44 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA06281 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 22:09:50 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 22:09:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 647 Lines: 18 Wierd stuff here. We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we can't type anything to it at that point. It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to it isn't registering. stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. I'm going to try to get some better diags, I guess. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Commando Developer - Whatever It Takes #> #> "See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like #> Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too." - Linus Torvalds From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 10:59:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA06820; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:59:34 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA25703 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:58:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA25596 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:58:34 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA14096 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:58:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA30440; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:29:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Alistair Lambie cc: Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices In-Reply-To: <9704091424.ZM9048@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1065 Lines: 36 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Alistair Lambie wrote: > On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > > > > Does your Indy not have a 'head' on it....why are you using the serial ports.. The machine we're working on, bogomips, is in Ottawa, Canada. Mike's on business in Mountainview, California. Joshua "boot boy" Lamorie handles the hardboots, and I offer petty advice from Boston, watching Mike use minicom in a ytalk session through a serial connection. Odd, but it works. Does anyone know the the status of gcc for sgi-linux? I understand the cross compiler between Irix and sgi-linux is operational. How about a native compiler? I'm keen on porting a ton of RPM's... - - Alex <() Alex deVries |_\_ System Administrator ^^ The EngSoc Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBM0sbNO5CP+X51y2VAQE7WQMAlU19MKDQO/n7WrLZR28aRU53IuFyzc0x bKVxD5Nya82B/gfH27cJkxjKjeCSRvboE9qdiVLkgThdavkqUTxrjJDg2kcndGam EPpOneWEk6wptA7WNmpowXK8ykU1a6pJ =sbL6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 10:16:38 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA05435; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:16:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA10956 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:15:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA10931 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:15:26 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22350 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:46:19 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15076; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:26:44 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA06508; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:25:46 +0200 Message-Id: <199704090525.HAA06508@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! To: wje@fir.esd.sgi.com (William J. Earl) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:25:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704082337.QAA14690@fir.esd.sgi.com> from "William J. Earl" at Apr 8, 97 04:37:49 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 276 Lines: 10 > ... > > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. > ... > > This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. Linux doesn't really check; instead it has encoded which CPU types have a wait instruction. I add the R500 to that list. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 00:08:13 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA20096; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:08:12 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA15795 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:07:03 -0700 Received: from sgiger.munich.sgi.com (sgiger.munich.sgi.com [144.253.192.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA15772 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:06:57 -0700 Received: from knobi.munich.sgi.com by sgiger.munich.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI) id JAA03892; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:06:33 +0200 Received: from knobi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobi.munich.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951220.SGI.AUTOCF.knobi) via SMTP id JAA19306; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:06:30 +0200 Message-ID: <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:06:29 +0200 From: Martin Knoblauch Organization: Silicon Graphics GmbH, Am-Hochacker 3, D-85630 Grasbrunn X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alistair Lambie CC: Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091424.ZM9048@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1379 Lines: 33 Alistair Lambie wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > > Wierd stuff here. > > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > > can't type anything to it at that point. > > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > > it isn't registering. > > > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > > > > Does your Indy not have a 'head' on it....why are you using > the serial ports.. > this brings up the question: do we already have drivers for the textport? Not to speak of an X-Server? How are we (SGI) going to handle this? As far as I know we never published the hardware dependent parts on the X11 distribution, did we? Martin -- +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ |Martin Knoblauch | Silicon Graphics GmbH | |Manager Technical Marketing | Am Hochacker 3 - Technopark | |Silicon Graphics Computer Systems| D-85630 Grasbrunn-Neukeferloh, FRG| |---------------------------------| Phone: (+int) 89 46108-179 or -0 | |http://reality.sgi.com/knobi | Fax: (+int) 89 46107-179 | +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ |e-mail: | VM: 6-333-8197 | M/S: IDE-3150 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 12:25:57 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA04695; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:25:56 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA29136 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:25:19 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA29112 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:25:16 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA11579 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:25:11 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id EAA08923 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:58:18 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704090858.EAA08923@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: More on the serial strangeness To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:58:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1782 Lines: 40 Some better information about my situation, now that I'm not as rushed: - I have a serial console on port 1 of the Indy, and I'm talking to it via minicom on my Linux box. WOrks great. Sometimes BRK gets me back to the PROM, sometimes it just hangs, but I can live with that. - The boot process goes pretty well, but when I get past the root mount (using init=/bin/sh), I can't interact with anything. - I see the `# ' prompt, I get stderr output (!) but the following commands (which do execute) produce no output: echo "ttyS0" > /dev/ttyS0 echo "ttyS1" > /dev/ttyS1 echo "cua1" > /dev/cua1 echo "cua0" > /dev/cua0 - If I try to access /dev/console or /dev/tty[1234], I get "can't create /dev/whatever: Error 19", which seems to be "no such device". If someone with the appropriate tools could build me a static tail binary, it'll make the experimentation go a fair bit faster. I'll be back in Ottawa tomorrow afternoon for a few days, so I'll be able to work on the console, but since I'll be travelling a _lot_ over the next few weeks, having the serial stuff work properly is still important. I'm still using the dm@neteng 2.0.12 kernel. Ralf, do you have anything else built over there you want me to test? (If it'll help, I can set Miguel and Ralf up with appropriate access on neon so they can experiment. It'll take a few days, but if it keeps those precious geek-cycle from going to waste...) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 08:23:29 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA00364; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:23:29 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA07729 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:22:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA07691 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:22:29 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA01626 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 08:19:52 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18135; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:07:49 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA06864; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199704091006.MAA06864@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: serial consoles, sash and other wonders To: wje@fir.esd.sgi.com (William J. Earl) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704081948.MAA14047@fir.esd.sgi.com> from "William J. Earl" at Apr 8, 97 12:48:07 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1100 Lines: 24 Hi, > By the way, it is pretty easy to write a little program to convert > a kernel ELF binary to an ECOFF binary, discarding most of the symbols and > other stuff, assuming you have the header files for the file formats. > (The result would not be acceptable to many of the tools, such as dbx, > but it would be bootable.) > > For a production linux for the Indy, the most reasonable approach, > however, would be to make silo or whatever boot program you are using be > ECOFF, so that old PROMs are supported. I also have to deal with ARC machines (the little endian NT stuff). By definiton they have to support ECOFF; everything else is optional. This brings in the extra issue that the loader needs to be relocatable. MIPS-ECOFF configurations of GCC can't do that and the linker dies when loading ELF PIC code into an ECOFF executable. Unfortunately fixing is nontrivial. The {Net,Open}BSD people already have a converter tool which they use to generate their kernel executable. It would solve the ld problems. I did some work on it and I should probably finish it ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 16:43:22 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA20734; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:43:21 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA17126 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:42:47 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA17098 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:42:42 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id LAA24639; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:42:22 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA09052; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:42:21 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091142.ZM9015@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:42:21 +0000 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver Subject: (Fwd) Re: It booooooooooots! Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1602 Lines: 49 Ooops, reply all! --- Forwarded mail from ("Alistair Lambie") From: "Alistair Lambie" Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:40:38 +0000 To: "William J. Earl" Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! On Apr 9, 11:38am, William J. Earl wrote: > Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! > Mike Shaver writes: > > >> boot -f bootp()neon.ingenia.ca:/vmlinux > > Setting $netaddr to 205.207.220.72 (from server neon.ingenia.ca) > > Obtaining /vmlinux from server neon.ingenia.ca > > PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 > > PROMLIB: Total free ram 65208320 bytes (63680K,62MB) > > Loading R4000 MMU routines. > > CPU REVISION IS: 00002310 > ... > > Congratulations -- quick work. > > ... > > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. > ... > > This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. I don't think David ever worked on an R5000. The only platforms were R4600 & R4400...soooo, there may be some issues to be resolved. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 ---End of forwarded mail from ("Alistair Lambie") -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 16:49:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA00409; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:49:39 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA19043 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:48:55 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA19031 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:48:51 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id LAA24841; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:48:26 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08913; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:48:25 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091148.ZM9065@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:48:25 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "It booooooooooots!" (Apr 9, 10:27am) References: <199704082223.SAA03675@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! Cc: kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1128 Lines: 30 On Apr 9, 10:27am, Mike Shaver wrote: > Subject: It booooooooooots! > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............ > > Doesn't seem to want to find the server again for the NFS root thing, > but that's probably a config problem. > I used to have that...you probably haven't got a rarp server set up, so it can't find its address. One of the things David was going to add was that ability to read it out of NVRAM...but that wasn't high on the priority list! For now, the only way is to have a rarp server. The other way is to have the root file system on hard disk....but to do that you need to boot linux and copy it across. Kind of the chicken and the egg situation! > _Now_ we're ready to rock... > Did you get my root filesystem etc off http://reality.sgi.com/ariel/alambie. This should give you the bits you need to get multiuser (init), set up networking and mount disks. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 17:08:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA10602; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:08:23 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA27228 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:07:52 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA27088 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:07:09 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA25366; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:29 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA08867; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:28 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091206.ZM8939@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:06:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "Re: It booooooooooots!" (Apr 9, 11:56am) References: <199704082356.TAA04813@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 36 On Apr 9, 11:56am, Mike Shaver wrote: > Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! > Thus spake Alistair Lambie: > > I used to have that...you probably haven't got a rarp server set up, so it > > can't find its address. One of the things David was going to add was that > > ability to read it out of NVRAM...but that wasn't high on the priority list! > > For now, the only way is to have a rarp server. > > Actually, you can do it with > boot -f bootp()server:/vmlinux nfsaddrs=my.ip.ad.dr:nfs.ip.ad.dr > Forgot that one!! It all seems so long ago :-) > It mounts it now (I have the NFS daemon running with debugging on so > that I can watch) but it just stops after it looks at tty[4123 -- in > that order]. > Have you set up the 'init' environment, or are you just using the plain 'root' package. If the later, I seem to remeber that the kernel looks for init, but doesn't look in the correct place for the shell. There is a boot argument that I used to use to get the shell...can't remeber what now, but it was real easy to find in the kernel source.... Even if you are using init, you might want to just boot the shell first to track down what is happening! Cheers -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 10:34:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA05718; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:34:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA17873 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:33:16 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA17859 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:33:13 -0700 Received: from caipfs.rutgers.edu (caipfs.rutgers.edu [128.6.19.100]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA06976 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:33:01 -0700 Received: from jenolan.caipgeneral (jenolan.rutgers.edu [128.6.111.5]) by caipfs.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19306; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jenolan.caipgeneral (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00813; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:28:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:28:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199704091328.JAA00813@jenolan.caipgeneral> From: "David S. Miller" To: alambie@wellington.sgi.com CC: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <9704091142.ZM9015@windy.wellington.sgi.com> (alambie@wellington.sgi.com) Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: It booooooooooots! Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 834 Lines: 18 From: "Alistair Lambie" Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:42:21 +0000 > This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. I don't think David ever worked on an R5000. The only platforms were R4600 & R4400...soooo, there may be some issues to be resolved. Actually in this case Ralf's code for wait instruction detection happened to work out of the box on my R4XX0 test machines back at SGI, so it apparently does need to be looked into for the R5k. ---------------------------------------------//// Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// ethernet. Beat that! //// -----------------------------------------////__________ o David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 19:23:41 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA07496; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:23:41 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA08356 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:23:04 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA08343 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:23:00 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA28865; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:22:46 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09761; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:22:46 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091422.ZM9856@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:22:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "init=/bin/sh and serial devices" (Apr 9, 2:12pm) References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 828 Lines: 23 On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > Wierd stuff here. > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > can't type anything to it at that point. > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > it isn't registering. > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > Try 'init=/bin/sh /dev/cua1'. I seem to remember you need that. Sorry all this seems to be coming piece meal, but it's been a long time since I have run it up, and you kind of forget some of the details till you are reminded! Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 19:24:49 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA07870; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:24:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA08617 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:24:18 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA08603 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:24:14 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA28929; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:24:04 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09859; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:24:03 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091424.ZM9048@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:24:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "init=/bin/sh and serial devices" (Apr 9, 2:12pm) References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 668 Lines: 20 On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > Wierd stuff here. > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > can't type anything to it at that point. > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > it isn't registering. > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > Does your Indy not have a 'head' on it....why are you using the serial ports.. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 19:30:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA10962; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:30:24 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA09607 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:29:54 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA09588 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:29:50 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA29073; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:29:41 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09858; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:29:40 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091429.ZM9870@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:29:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: "Alistair Lambie" "Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices" (Apr 9, 2:23pm) References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091422.ZM9856@windy.wellington.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1404 Lines: 44 BTW, if you use the init package it will take care of all this stuff...you should be able to just lay it over the top of the root package on your nfs disk. Cheers, Alistair On Apr 9, 2:23pm, Alistair Lambie wrote: > Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > > Wierd stuff here. > > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > > can't type anything to it at that point. > > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > > it isn't registering. > > > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > > > > Try 'init=/bin/sh /dev/cua1'. I seem to remember you need that. > Sorry all this seems to be coming piece meal, but it's been a long time since I > have run it up, and you kind of forget some of the details till you are > reminded! > > Cheers, Alistair > > -- > Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com > Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 > Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 > 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 >-- End of excerpt from Alistair Lambie -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 8 19:32:32 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA12389; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:32:32 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA10177 for linux-list; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:32:00 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA10100 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 19:31:37 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA29123; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:31:17 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09873; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:31:16 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091431.ZM9866@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:31:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: "Alistair Lambie" "Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices" (Apr 9, 2:30pm) References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091422.ZM9856@windy.wellington.sgi.com> <9704091429.ZM9870@windy.wellington.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Mike Shaver Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1948 Lines: 66 On Apr 9, 2:30pm, Alistair Lambie wrote: > Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > BTW, if you use the init package it will take care of all this stuff...you > should be able to just lay it over the top of the root package on your nfs > disk. > You will need to edit inittab for the serial devices...it's set up for the vc's on a 'headed' Indy. > Cheers, Alistair > > On Apr 9, 2:23pm, Alistair Lambie wrote: > > Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > > On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > > > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > > > Wierd stuff here. > > > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > > > can't type anything to it at that point. > > > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > > > it isn't registering. > > > > > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > > > > > > > Try 'init=/bin/sh /dev/cua1'. I seem to remember you need that. > > Sorry all this seems to be coming piece meal, but it's been a long time since > I > > have run it up, and you kind of forget some of the details till you are > > reminded! > > > > Cheers, Alistair > > > > -- > > Alistair Lambie > alambie@wellington.sgi.com > > Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 > > Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: > +64-4-802 1455 > > 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: > +64-4-802 1459 > >-- End of excerpt from Alistair Lambie > > > > -- > Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com > Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 > Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 > 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 >-- End of excerpt from Alistair Lambie -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 11:33:01 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07030; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:33:01 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA07945 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:31:24 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07924 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:31:19 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA20788; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:31:04 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA27695; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:31:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:31:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199704091831.LAA27695@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Martin Knoblauch Cc: Alistair Lambie , Mike Shaver , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices In-Reply-To: <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091424.ZM9048@windy.wellington.sgi.com> <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 477 Lines: 11 Martin Knoblauch writes: ... > this brings up the question: do we already have drivers for > the textport? Not to speak of an X-Server? How are we (SGI) > going to handle this? As far as I know we never published > the hardware dependent parts on the X11 distribution, did we? ... With management authorization, I provided the technical details for the graphics hardware (and all the other Indy hardware) to David Miller, who I believe got a textport driver working. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 11:38:08 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07987; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:38:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA10719 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:37:34 -0700 Received: from ares.esd.sgi.com (fddi-ares.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.60]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA10708 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:37:32 -0700 Received: from fir.esd.sgi.com by ares.esd.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA21250; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:37:30 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA27718; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:37:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:37:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199704091837.LAA27718@fir.esd.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Ralf Baechle Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, kneedham@ottawa.sgi.com Subject: Re: It booooooooooots! In-Reply-To: <199704090525.HAA06508@kernel.panic.julia.de> References: <199704082337.QAA14690@fir.esd.sgi.com> <199704090525.HAA06508@kernel.panic.julia.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 809 Lines: 28 Ralf Baechle writes: > > ... > > > Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. > > ... > > > > This appears to be a bug. The R5000 does have the wait instruction. > > Linux doesn't really check; instead it has encoded which CPU types > have a wait instruction. I add the R500 to that list. As far as I know, all QED processors have the "wait" instruction. All the 0x2??? processor ID values are QED processors. Here are the current values: #define C0_IMP_NEVADA 0x28 #define C0_IMP_RM7000 0x27 #define C0_IMP_MAGIC 0x25 #define C0_IMP_SONIC 0x24 #define C0_IMP_R5000 0x23 #define C0_IMP_R4650 0x22 #define C0_IMP_R4700 0x21 #define C0_IMP_R4600 0x20 I don't know which processors are SONIC, MAGIC, or NEVADA, but I think NEVADA is the new RM5260 (a low-cost R5000). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 11:47:20 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA09067; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:47:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13568 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:46:14 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13442; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:45:47 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA21362; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:40:47 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704091840.LAA21362@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices To: wje@fir.esd.sgi.com (William J. Earl) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: knobi@munich.sgi.com, alambie@wellington.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704091831.LAA27695@fir.esd.sgi.com> from "William J. Earl" at Apr 9, 97 11:31:04 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 714 Lines: 20 : :Martin Knoblauch writes: :... : > this brings up the question: do we already have drivers for : > the textport? Not to speak of an X-Server? How are we (SGI) : > going to handle this? As far as I know we never published : > the hardware dependent parts on the X11 distribution, did we? :... : : With management authorization, I provided the technical details :for the graphics hardware (and all the other Indy hardware) to David :Miller, who I believe got a textport driver working. : Also, the agreement we signed with David was that all the Linux work including those low level drivers will be released under the GPL i.e. anyone who cares would be able to look at these driver sources. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 11:50:49 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA14165; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:50:49 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA15347 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:50:15 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA15323; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:50:11 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA21442; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:46:07 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704091846.LAA21442@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 11:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: alambie@wellington.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Apr 9, 97 00:29:32 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1322 Lines: 39 : :-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : : :On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Alistair Lambie wrote: :> On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: :> > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. :> > :> :> Does your Indy not have a 'head' on it....why are you using the serial ports.. : :The machine we're working on, bogomips, is in Ottawa, Canada. Mike's on :business in Mountainview, California. Joshua "boot boy" Lamorie handles :the hardboots, and I offer petty advice from Boston, watching Mike use :minicom in a ytalk session through a serial connection. Odd, but it :works. : :Does anyone know the the status of gcc for sgi-linux? I understand the :cross compiler between Irix and sgi-linux is operational. How about a :native compiler? I'm keen on porting a ton of RPM's... : :- - Alex : :<() Alex deVries : |_\_ System Administrator : ^^ The EngSoc Project : : This is one of the things that weren't done and we want to get done by the Linux/SGI developers. I believe that Miguel is one of the best people to make this happen. If we can just get his Indy R5000 out of the bureaucratic mess. Miguel's Indy was shipped three weeks ago to Mexico and requires a "special permit for used equipment" by the Mexican customs to be provided by the SGI Mexico City office) I hope Miguel will send us some good news soon. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 00:31:33 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA21413; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:31:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA18875 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:30:28 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA18859 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:30:21 -0700 Received: from windy.wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id TAA06677; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:30:16 +1200 Received: (alambie@localhost) by windy.wellington.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA10080; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:30:15 +1200 From: "Alistair Lambie" Message-Id: <9704091930.ZM10078@windy.wellington.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:30:15 +0000 In-Reply-To: Martin Knoblauch "Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices" (Apr 9, 7:07pm) References: <199704090209.WAA06281@neon.ingenia.ca> <9704091424.ZM9048@windy.wellington.sgi.com> <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Martin Knoblauch Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 37 On Apr 9, 7:07pm, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > Alistair Lambie wrote: > > > > On Apr 9, 2:12pm, Mike Shaver wrote: > > > Subject: init=/bin/sh and serial devices > > > Wierd stuff here. > > > We've got it mountinng the NFS partition and running /bin/sh, but we > > > can't type anything to it at that point. > > > It's kinda weird, because we see the `#' prompt, but stuff I type to > > > it isn't registering. > > > > > > stdin in /dev/cua1, FWIW. > > > > > > > Does your Indy not have a 'head' on it....why are you using > > the serial ports.. > > > > this brings up the question: do we already have drivers for > the textport? Not to speak of an X-Server? How are we (SGI) > going to handle this? As far as I know we never published > the hardware dependent parts on the X11 distribution, did we? > We already have drivers for 'textport'....well actually it takes over the whole screen with a font that allows something like 132x80 from what I remeber. This has VC support so you can do the usual Alt-F1 etc like on a PC based linux box. No work has been done on the X-Server yet. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 17:19:28 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA09146; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:19:28 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA23458 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:18:47 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA23441 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:18:45 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA27543 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:18:42 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA16082 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:18:30 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704100018.UAA16082@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Source tree To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 20:18:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 646 Lines: 16 How are we going to do this source tree thing? I'm kinda green when it comes to CVS, but I can be taught simple tricks. I'd like to start mucking with things like the PROM netaddr autodetection and such, but I don't want to make anyone's life more difficult than necessary. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Ignore the man behind the curtain. #> #> "And then I realized that it never should have worked in the first #> place. Thus, it would not work again until rewritten." --- Anon. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 19:13:41 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA23344; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:13:41 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA16994 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:12:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA16981 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:12:52 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA18601 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:12:51 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA16857 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:02 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704100211.WAA16857@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: all in the family To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 725 Lines: 18 Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC. Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy cross-compiler? In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy). Maybe I'll steal the PowerMac too... =) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Information Warfare Division #> Chief Tactical and Strategic Officer "Saepe fidelis" #> #> "I like your game, but we have to change the rules." -- Anon #> From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 19:33:00 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA01001; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:33:00 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA20051 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:32:22 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA20038 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:32:19 -0700 Received: from caipfs.rutgers.edu (caipfs.rutgers.edu [128.6.19.100]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA21751 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:32:03 -0700 Received: from jenolan.caipgeneral (jenolan.rutgers.edu [128.6.111.5]) by caipfs.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02536; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jenolan.caipgeneral (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA01960; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:26:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:26:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199704100226.WAA01960@jenolan.caipgeneral> From: "David S. Miller" To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199704100211.WAA16857@neon.ingenia.ca> (message from Mike Shaver on Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:01 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: all in the family Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1028 Lines: 25 From: Mike Shaver Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC. Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy cross-compiler? It should be straight forward, 32-bit to 32-bit crosses under gcc work flawlessly right out of the box for everything I've ever tried. It's when you cross from 32-bit to 64-bit that you may hit a bug or two. In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy). Maybe I'll steal the PowerMac too... =) ELKS, that is cheating ;-) ---------------------------------------------//// Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// ethernet. Beat that! //// -----------------------------------------////__________ o David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 01:04:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA11640; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:04:23 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA27816 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:03:38 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA27792 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:03:34 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA08682 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:03:30 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01710; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:02:25 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA08771; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:01:33 +0200 Message-Id: <199704100701.JAA08771@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: all in the family To: davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:01:33 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704100226.WAA01960@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at Apr 9, 97 10:26:18 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 829 Lines: 23 > Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate > some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC. > > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy > cross-compiler? > > It should be straight forward, 32-bit to 32-bit crosses under gcc work > flawlessly right out of the box for everything I've ever tried. It's > when you cross from 32-bit to 64-bit that you may hit a bug or two. I've got the necessary patches to make the binutils and GCC work as Linux/Alpha -> Linux/MIPS crosscompiler. Mike, if you need them remind me to send them if you need them. > In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures > in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy). Maybe I'll > steal the PowerMac too... =) > > ELKS, that is cheating ;-) :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 9 19:22:13 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA00597; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:22:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA18269 for linux-list; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:21:08 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA18255 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:21:01 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA19610 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:20:59 -0700 Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22863; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 02:18:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 02:18:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199704100718.CAA22863@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199704100211.WAA16857@neon.ingenia.ca> (message from Mike Shaver on Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:01 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: all in the family X-Windows: Form follows malfunction. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 507 Lines: 18 > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy > cross-compiler? Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC? You just need to run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you will get your native cross-compiler in a second. You need to configure both binutils and gcc like this. > In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures in > the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy). Maybe I'll steal the > PowerMac too... =) :-) Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 08:25:45 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA01489; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:25:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA11132 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:25:04 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA11117 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:25:02 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA13900 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:24:45 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06445; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:23:03 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA10766; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:22:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199704101422.QAA10766@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: all in the family To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:22:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704101453.KAA21432@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Apr 10, 97 10:53:19 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1066 Lines: 31 Hi, > Thus spake Miguel de Icaza: > > > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy > > > cross-compiler? > > > > Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC? You just need to > > run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you > > will get your native cross-compiler in a second. > > I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target > was non-trivial. Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there > are binaries available for Solaris... > > If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great. (I think you're confusing host and target. If you want IRIX to generate code for Linux the IRIX is the host and Linux the target os). GCC does that as well as the binutils. Truely pervert people can even build GCC / binutils on a host of type a to run on type b and generate code for type c. I did that once or twice to build the first native compiler for Linux/MIPS. Try something like: ./configure --prefix=/usr --target=mips-linux to configure binutils and GCC. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 07:55:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA01321; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:55:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA05596 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:54:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA05586 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:54:37 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA07025 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:54:33 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA21432; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:53:19 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704101453.KAA21432@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: all in the family In-Reply-To: <199704100718.CAA22863@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from Miguel de Icaza at "Apr 10, 97 02:18:59 am" To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 900 Lines: 22 Thus spake Miguel de Icaza: > > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy > > cross-compiler? > > Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC? You just need to > run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you > will get your native cross-compiler in a second. I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target was non-trivial. Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there are binaries available for Solaris... If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Commando Developer - Whatever It Takes #> #> "See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like #> Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too." - Linus Torvalds From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 08:14:55 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA01438; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:14:55 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA08710 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:13:22 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA08690 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:13:19 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA11601 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:13:14 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA21619; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:09:26 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704101509.LAA21619@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: all in the family In-Reply-To: <199704100226.WAA01960@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at "Apr 9, 97 10:26:18 pm" To: davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 473 Lines: 13 Thus spake David S. Miller: > ELKS, that is cheating ;-) Yeah, but Alan insists on working on it. =) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 08:32:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA01528; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:32:17 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA12573 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:31:39 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA12563 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:31:36 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA15586 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:31:35 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA21940; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:30:22 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704101530.LAA21940@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: all in the family In-Reply-To: <199704101422.QAA10766@kernel.panic.julia.de> from Ralf Baechle at "Apr 10, 97 04:22:14 pm" To: ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 485 Lines: 14 Thus spake Ralf Baechle: > (I think you're confusing host and target. I think you're right... Mike (how embarrassing) -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> UNIX medicine man -- dark magick, cheap! #> #> When the going gets tough, the tough give cryptic error messages. #> "We believe in rough consensus and running code." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 10 11:03:27 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA11207; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:03:27 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA25154 for linux-list; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:01:49 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA25148 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:01:47 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA02138 for linux@engr; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:58:03 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704101758.KAA02138@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Why Linux on SGI To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199704101606.SAA10912@kernel.panic.julia.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Apr 10, 97 06:06:14 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2388 Lines: 57 : :As promised, here is Miguel's answer. : : Ralf : Miguel's answer is excellent. For the non-SGI'ers on the list I just would like to add: 1) IRIX has many features that important customers require (e.g. trusted IRIX capabilities, real time scheduling and many more) that actually make it slower than Linux (in general). As a vendor SGI is committed to support these features from low end to high end for a long time to come. IRIX is big. Linux is smaller and faster. Once we have Linux running and we'll start running simple benchmarks you'll see this very clearly. Another big feature for our customers is XFS. Linux doesn't support a safe file system, IRIX does (try to turn off your Linux box and you lost a lot of stuff, unlike on IRIX with XFS. 2) IRIX needs to run on machines that are incredibly different: from uniprocessors through SMP (which Linux is now getting at) to the S2MP model (no shared bus: Origin family) every feature added to support S2MP (the Origin line) may potentially complicate and slow down the uP desktop case. SGI customers demand one source base. They want to compile on O2 and run on Origin. Linux is just starting to get a feel for how complex is SMP vs. uP so it'll naturally run great on a uP but wouldn't be able to take advantage of the most scalable architecture of the Origins. As we've learned this requires rewriting large parts of your kernel from scratch. Which is why SGI is doing Cellular IRIX http://www.sgi.com/Technology/Irix6.4/cellular_irix6.4tr.html 3) IRIX runs only on SGIs and to get upgrades you need to pay for support. Linux runs on many platforms. It is free The common source base gives it a great advantage for people who have mixed envs. It is affordable and ideal for hackers. it has a big and fast growing following. 4) IRIX has no chance of beating M$oft. Linux doesn't either but it has a bit more. Just kidding. The guy who said "SGI has hundreds of highly paid engineers tuning IRIX to run fast on MIPS" simply misses the issues. They are much more complex than that. Both Linux and IRIX have their place. Each of them is good at different things. People should have a choice between SGI taking care of all their needs and the alternative to have full control of their software. Linux on SGI should prosper. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Apr 11 07:15:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA16924; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:15:53 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA19979 for linux-list; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:13:53 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA19967 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:13:50 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA21575 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:13:42 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21979; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:12:14 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA01052; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:11:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199704111311.PAA01052@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: Re: More on the serial strangeness To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:11:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704090858.EAA08923@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Apr 9, 97 04:58:17 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 35 Hi, > Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) > by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19302 > for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:51:21 +0200 [...] >Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Two days for that mail? > - If I try to access /dev/console or /dev/tty[1234], I get "can't > create /dev/whatever: Error 19", which seems to be "no such device". Btw, Linux/MIPS errno values are (almost) the same as IRIX. > If someone with the appropriate tools could build me a static tail > binary, it'll make the experimentation go a fair bit faster. This is the fun part. You probably need to cheat to make textutils' autoconf work for crosscompilation. It's usually ok to run configure on a Linux/Intel system (Using a glibc system is a good idea) and then crosscompile with a command like make CC=mips-linux-gcc CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" LDFLAGS="-static -s" Autoconf is *nice* in almost all cases but it's often a bitch when crosscompiling, so feel free to use every dirty trick in the book ... > (If it'll help, I can set Miguel and Ralf up with appropriate access > on neon so they can experiment. It'll take a few days, but if it > keeps those precious geek-cycle from going to waste...) Thanks, would be useful. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Apr 12 08:37:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA18458; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:37:50 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA17868 for linux-list; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:36:14 -0700 Received: from heaven.newport.sgi.com (heaven.newport.sgi.com [169.238.102.134]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA17863 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:36:11 -0700 Received: by heaven.newport.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for linux@engr id IAA11066; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:36:11 -0700 From: "Christopher W. Carlson" Message-Id: <9704120836.ZM11064@heaven.newport.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:36:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: EFS and XFS file systems support Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1274 Lines: 29 I understand that the EFS and XFS file systems are proprietary to SGI. I don't really understand why SGI would care if the EFS file system were divulged but I can understand the XFS file system. What I wanted to suggest is that SGI provide a library (.a file) that can be linked with Linux to provide EFS and XFS file support. If necessary, we could charge some nominal fee and require some kind of non-disclosure or promise that the objects won't be reverse engineered or something. As a minimum, provide these drivers only to employees. It would sure make development easier if we could mount SGI file systems. My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access SGI CD ROMs. Anyway, just thought I'd add my $.02. -- Chris Carlson +------------------------------------------------------+ | Also, carlson@sgi.com | | Work: (714) 756-5976 SGI vmail: 678-4530 | | FAX: (714) 833-9503 | | | | Trivia fact: an electroencephalogram shows that a | | human brain and a bowl of quivering lime Jell-O have | | the same waves. [Time Magazine, Mar 17, 1997] | +------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Apr 12 13:26:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA19310; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:26:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA20183 for linux-list; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:23:54 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (fddi-refugee.engr.sgi.com [192.26.75.26]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA20174 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:23:50 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by refugee.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA17872; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:23:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199704122023.NAA17872@refugee.engr.sgi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Christopher W. Carlson" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support In-reply-to: Message from carlson@heaven.newport.sgi.com of 12 Apr 1997 8:36:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:23:36 -0700 From: Steve Alexander Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 731 Lines: 18 "Christopher W. Carlson" writes: >What I wanted to suggest is that SGI provide a library (.a file) that >can be linked with Linux to provide EFS and XFS file support. If >necessary, we could charge some nominal fee and require some kind of >non-disclosure or promise that the objects won't be reverse engineered >or something. I thought that there was a program available for Linux that would read EFS file systems, although I can't for the life of me remember the name. >My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access SGI CD ROMs. I think the better question is when will we start distributing CDs in a standard format... Yeah, yeah, backward compatibility, I know ;-> -- Steve From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 01:23:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA07574; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:23:19 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA21196 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:22:38 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA21184 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:22:35 -0700 Received: from caipfs.rutgers.edu (caipfs.rutgers.edu [128.6.91.100]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA26302 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 01:22:33 -0700 Received: from jenolan.caipgeneral (jenolan.rutgers.edu [128.6.111.5]) by caipfs.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA09444; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jenolan.caipgeneral (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA00522; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:17:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:17:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199704140817.EAA00522@jenolan.caipgeneral> From: "David S. Miller" To: knobi@munich.sgi.com CC: alambie@wellington.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> (message from Martin Knoblauch on Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:06:29 +0200) Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 810 Lines: 17 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:06:29 +0200 From: Martin Knoblauch do we already have drivers for the textport? I wrote the text console driver for 24-bit Newport INDY frame buffers, and it is in the SGI/Linux code. I was never able to get around to doing the 8-bit frame buffer card driver though, so if you've got one of those in the INDY you are a out of luck for now. (hinv -v from the firmware prompt will tell you if you have the 24-bit or 8-bit card) ---------------------------------------------//// Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// ethernet. Beat that! //// -----------------------------------------////__________ o David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 11:06:45 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA04774; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:06:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13473 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:04:31 -0700 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.41]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13370; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:04:16 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA10353; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:05:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:05:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199704141805.LAA10353@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: "David S. Miller" Cc: knobi@munich.sgi.com, alambie@wellington.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices In-Reply-To: <199704140817.EAA00522@jenolan.caipgeneral> References: <334B3FF5.41C6@munich.sgi.com> <199704140817.EAA00522@jenolan.caipgeneral> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 727 Lines: 16 David S. Miller writes: > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:06:29 +0200 > From: Martin Knoblauch > > do we already have drivers for the textport? > > I wrote the text console driver for 24-bit Newport INDY frame buffers, > and it is in the SGI/Linux code. I was never able to get around to > doing the 8-bit frame buffer card driver though, so if you've got one > of those in the INDY you are a out of luck for now. (hinv -v from the > firmware prompt will tell you if you have the 24-bit or 8-bit card) ... Does the textport driver run in color-index mode? If so, it will probably work on the 8-bit card. The cards are largely identical, except for the depth of the frame buffer. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 11:14:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA05591; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:14:36 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA18278 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:13:45 -0700 Received: from titian.engr.sgi.com (titian.engr.sgi.com [150.166.240.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA18266 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:13:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by titian.engr.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA19102; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:13:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199704141813.LAA19102@titian.engr.sgi.com> To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: How big is the Linux/MIPS kernel? Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:13:43 -0700 From: Mike McDonald Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 708 Lines: 16 Could someone tell me how big the kernel is for the MIPS chip? I need a rough estimate of the size of a minimal kernel with networking support, probably no file systems nor disks. A project I'm working on is currently using VxWorks. We're suppose to add a bunch of large, off the shelf software components to it and I'm worried about running everything in one unprotected address space. (All it takes is the web browser to hickup and the box will crash. But hey, no one has ever heard of a web browser crashing!) Does anyone have an estimate of the process switching time? That's one of the things the hardware types harp about for their multimedia apps. Thanks Mike McDonald mikemac@engr.sgi.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 11:29:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA06590; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:29:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA24070 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:28:39 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA24054 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:28:37 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13874; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:24:50 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704141824.LAA13874@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: How big is the Linux/MIPS kernel? To: mikemac@titian.engr.sgi.com (Mike McDonald) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704141813.LAA19102@titian.engr.sgi.com> from "Mike McDonald" at Apr 14, 97 11:13:43 am Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1420 Lines: 36 : : : Could someone tell me how big the kernel is for the MIPS chip? I :need a rough estimate of the size of a minimal kernel with networking :support, probably no file systems nor disks. A project I'm working on :is currently using VxWorks. We're suppose to add a bunch of large, off :the shelf software components to it and I'm worried about running :everything in one unprotected address space. (All it takes is the web :browser to hickup and the box will crash. But hey, no one has ever :heard of a web browser crashing!) Does anyone have an estimate of the :process switching time? That's one of the things the hardware types :harp about for their multimedia apps. : : Thanks : : Mike McDonald : mikemac@engr.sgi.com : 11:26 ariel@info /hosts/neteng.engr/home/dm/alambie> size vmlinux Section Size Physical Virtual Address Address .text 809344 2282131456 2282131456 .rodata 71264 2282940800 2282940800 .reginfo 24 2283012064 2283012064 .data 90848 2283012096 2283012096 .sbss 349 2283102944 2283102944 .bss 131324 2283103296 2283103296 880632 + 90848 + 131673 = 1103153 -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 11:40:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07020; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:40:50 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA27555 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:39:47 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA27539 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:39:45 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13936; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:35:57 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199704141835.LAA13936@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: How big is the Linux/MIPS kernel? To: ariel@sgi.com Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mikemac@titian.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704141824.LAA13874@yon.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Apr 14, 97 11:24:49 am Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1196 Lines: 29 : :11:26 ariel@info /hosts/neteng.engr/home/dm/alambie> size vmlinux : : : Section Size Physical Virtual : Address Address : : .text 809344 2282131456 2282131456 : .rodata 71264 2282940800 2282940800 : .reginfo 24 2283012064 2283012064 : .data 90848 2283012096 2283012096 : .sbss 349 2283102944 2283102944 : .bss 131324 2283103296 2283103296 :880632 + 90848 + 131673 = 1103153 : Maybe I should have added: That's less than half the size of IRIX (6.3 on my Indy) and about a quarter of the size of IRIX64 (6.4 on info.engr) Of course, IRIX has much more in it, like XFS, Trusted IRIX, Real Time and priority-classes scheduling, MPP (in 6.4), digital media device drivers ..., but I thought you may want to know the numbers. IRIX64: 2992844 (text) + 967960 (data) + 405460 (bss) = 4366264 (6.4) IRIX: 2224072 (text) + 202752 (data) + 196560 (bss) = 2623384 (6.3) -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 13:48:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA22785; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA11178 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:47:16 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA11158 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:47:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (lm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA22932; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:47:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199704142047.NAA22932@neteng.engr.sgi.com> To: Steve Alexander From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) cc: "Christopher W. Carlson" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:47:42 -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 417 Lines: 11 : I thought that there was a program available for Linux that would read EFS : file systems, although I can't for the life of me remember the name. Nope. : >My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access SGI CD ROMs. : : I think the better question is when will we start distributing CDs in a : standard format... Yeah, yeah, backward compatibility, I know ;-> I agree with Steve. Switch to iso9660. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 15:30:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05988; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:30:06 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA17938 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:29:10 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (fddi-refugee.engr.sgi.com [192.26.75.26]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA17893 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:29:08 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by refugee.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA07659; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:28:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199704142228.PAA07659@refugee.engr.sgi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) Cc: "Christopher W. Carlson" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support In-reply-to: Message from lm@neteng of 14 Apr 1997 13:47:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:28:40 -0700 From: Steve Alexander Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 445 Lines: 18 lm@neteng (Larry McVoy) writes: >: I thought that there was a program available for Linux that would read EFS >: file systems, although I can't for the life of me remember the name. > >Nope. OK, I went and looked... Subject: -65- How can I read an IRIX (EFS) CD-ROM on a machine which doesn't use EFS? Date: 18 Jun 1995 00:00:01 EST You want 'efslook', at ftp://viz.tamu.edu/pub/sgi/software/efslook.tar.gz. -- Steve From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 19:30:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA00076; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:30:01 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA10928 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:29:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA10914; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:29:05 -0700 Received: from caipfs.rutgers.edu (caipfs.rutgers.edu [128.6.91.100]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA18962; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:28:37 -0700 Received: from jenolan.caipgeneral (jenolan.rutgers.edu [128.6.111.5]) by caipfs.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08847; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jenolan.caipgeneral (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA00938; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:09:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:09:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199704150209.WAA00938@jenolan.caipgeneral> From: "David S. Miller" To: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com CC: knobi@munich.sgi.com, alambie@wellington.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199704141805.LAA10353@fir.engr.sgi.com> (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1094 Lines: 23 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:05:52 -0700 From: "William J. Earl" Does the textport driver run in color-index mode? If so, it will probably work on the 8-bit card. The cards are largely identical, except for the depth of the frame buffer. If memory serves, I left the chip in the exact mode the firmware has set it to. So if the firmware sets up the card to use color-index mode, then I do as well in the driver. (I think I did this so I did not have to deal with monitor frequencies, and resolutions, and that sort of thing) But my text rendering code may make assumptions about frame buffer depth, I draw them using the various simpler raster operation commands the Newport has, so someone who knows would have to look at my code. ---------------------------------------------//// Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// ethernet. Beat that! //// -----------------------------------------////__________ o David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 19:19:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA23263; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:19:15 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA09271 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:18:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA09255; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:18:20 -0700 Received: from caipfs.rutgers.edu (caipfs.rutgers.edu [128.6.91.100]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA17502; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:18:16 -0700 Received: from jenolan.caipgeneral (jenolan.rutgers.edu [128.6.111.5]) by caipfs.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08888; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jenolan.caipgeneral (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA00944; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:13:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:13:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199704150213.WAA00944@jenolan.caipgeneral> From: "David S. Miller" To: ariel@sgi.com CC: mikemac@titian.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199704141835.LAA13936@yon.engr.sgi.com> (ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: How big is the Linux/MIPS kernel? Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 938 Lines: 19 There was a bug in the linker/assembler/gcc that I don't recall if I fixed for the kernel build tools. What it would do is leave the symbol information for all local compiler generated symbols in the kernel image (the problem was gcc was generating local symbols using one convention and the linker/assembler were expecting them to be in another format, so they just got left in the symbol table). This would cut down the size of the Linux kernel quite a bit. I know I fixed it in the userland gcc because this bug prevented some important programs (lat_ctx ;-) from compiling due to ELF symbol table overflows. ---------------------------------------------//// Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// ethernet. Beat that! //// -----------------------------------------////__________ o David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Apr 14 23:26:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA02522; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:26:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA01749 for linux-list; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:25:51 -0700 Received: from sgiger.munich.sgi.com (sgiger.munich.sgi.com [144.253.192.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA01728 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:25:42 -0700 Received: from knobi.munich.sgi.com by sgiger.munich.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI) id IAA07304; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:25:35 +0200 Received: from knobi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobi.munich.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951220.SGI.AUTOCF.knobi) via SMTP id IAA01433; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:25:32 +0200 Message-ID: <33531F5C.167E@munich.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:25:32 +0200 From: Martin Knoblauch Organization: Silicon Graphics GmbH, Am-Hochacker 3, D-85630 Grasbrunn X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry McVoy CC: Steve Alexander , "Christopher W. Carlson" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support References: <199704142047.NAA22932@neteng.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1366 Lines: 36 Larry McVoy wrote: > > : I thought that there was a program available for Linux that > : would read EFS file systems, although I can't for the life > : of me remember the name. > > Nope. > Isn't there something calles "efslook"? I found it mentioned somewhere in the SGI FAQs. Probably does not really "mount" the EFS volumes, but you should be able to read them. > : >My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access > : SGI CD ROMs. > : > : I think the better question is when will we start distributing > : CDs in a standard format... Yeah, yeah, backward compatibility, > : I know ;-> > > I agree with Steve. Switch to iso9660. Definitely. Do away with EFS as soon as manageable. Martin -- +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ |Martin Knoblauch | Silicon Graphics GmbH | |Manager Technical Marketing | Am Hochacker 3 - Technopark | |Silicon Graphics Computer Systems| D-85630 Grasbrunn-Neukeferloh, FRG| |---------------------------------| Phone: (+int) 89 46108-179 or -0 | |http://reality.sgi.com/knobi | Fax: (+int) 89 46107-179 | +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ |e-mail: | VM: 6-333-8197 | M/S: IDE-3150 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 15 14:30:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA15662; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:30:17 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA17029 for linux-list; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:29:25 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA17009; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:29:22 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA13952; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:29:21 -0700 Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA15195; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:26:30 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704152026.QAA15195@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support In-Reply-To: <199704152109.OAA12094@neteng.engr.sgi.com> from Larry McVoy at "Apr 15, 97 02:09:27 pm" To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 854 Lines: 19 Thus spake Larry McVoy: > At this point, since we are moving away from EFS, it is possible > that we would be willing to donate a version of the EFS code to > Linux. I can probably get that cleared. But someone else would > have to do the port, I'm too busy. If you find someone to do the > port, let me know. Assuming it's all cleared with everyone, and we get a source repository somewhere to play with, I might give it a shot. Does anyone know if the efslook stuff is GPL'd? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Ignore the man behind the curtain. #> #> "And then I realized that it never should have worked in the first #> place. Thus, it would not work again until rewritten." --- Anon. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 15 14:09:21 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12102; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:20 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA10781 for linux-list; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:08:21 -0700 Received: from heaven.newport.sgi.com (heaven.newport.sgi.com [169.238.102.134]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA10509 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:06:28 -0700 Received: by heaven.newport.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA17210; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:06:04 -0700 From: "Christopher W. Carlson" Message-Id: <9704151406.ZM17208@heaven.newport.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:06:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) "Re: EFS and XFS file systems support" (Apr 14, 1:47pm) References: <199704142047.NAA22932@neteng.engr.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy), Steve Alexander Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1407 Lines: 35 On Apr 14, 1:47pm, Larry McVoy wrote: > Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support > : I thought that there was a program available for Linux that would read EFS > : file systems, although I can't for the life of me remember the name. > > Nope. > > : >My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access SGI CD ROMs. > : > : I think the better question is when will we start distributing CDs in a > : standard format... Yeah, yeah, backward compatibility, I know ;-> > > I agree with Steve. Switch to iso9660. >-- End of excerpt from Larry McVoy Hey, I'd love to switch to iso9660. Unfortunately, how do we read all the CDs that have already been generated? For example all the free source code that has been generated on the Developer's Toolbox and stuff. Also, after a linux kernel has been booted, it would be nice to mount SGI file systems. -- Chris Carlson +------------------------------------------------------+ | Also, carlson@sgi.com | | Work: (714) 756-5976 SGI vmail: 678-4530 | | FAX: (714) 833-9503 | | | | Trivia fact: an electroencephalogram shows that a | | human brain and a bowl of quivering lime Jell-O have | | the same waves. [Time Magazine, Mar 17, 1997] | +------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 15 14:09:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12108; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:59 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA11055 for linux-list; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:24 -0700 Received: from odin.corp.sgi.com (odin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11009 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:18 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com by odin.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) for id OAA10416; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (lm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA12094; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199704152109.OAA12094@neteng.engr.sgi.com> To: "Christopher W. Carlson" From: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com, Steve Alexander , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:09:27 -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1758 Lines: 40 At this point, since we are moving away from EFS, it is possible that we would be willing to donate a version of the EFS code to Linux. I can probably get that cleared. But someone else would have to do the port, I'm too busy. If you find someone to do the port, let me know. : On Apr 14, 1:47pm, Larry McVoy wrote: : > Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support : > : I thought that there was a program available for Linux that would read EFS : > : file systems, although I can't for the life of me remember the name. : > : > Nope. : > : > : >My biggest reason for wanting them supported is to access SGI CD ROMs. : > : : > : I think the better question is when will we start distributing CDs in a : > : standard format... Yeah, yeah, backward compatibility, I know ;-> : > : > I agree with Steve. Switch to iso9660. : >-- End of excerpt from Larry McVoy : : : Hey, I'd love to switch to iso9660. Unfortunately, how do we read all : the CDs that have already been generated? For example all the free : source code that has been generated on the Developer's Toolbox and : stuff. Also, after a linux kernel has been booted, it would be nice : to mount SGI file systems. : : -- : : Chris Carlson : : +------------------------------------------------------+ : | Also, carlson@sgi.com | : | Work: (714) 756-5976 SGI vmail: 678-4530 | : | FAX: (714) 833-9503 | : | | : | Trivia fact: an electroencephalogram shows that a | : | human brain and a bowl of quivering lime Jell-O have | : | the same waves. [Time Magazine, Mar 17, 1997] | : +------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 15 14:12:04 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12244; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:12:03 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA11468 for linux-list; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:11:28 -0700 Received: from heaven.newport.sgi.com (heaven.newport.sgi.com [169.238.102.134]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11459 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:11:26 -0700 Received: by heaven.newport.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA17234; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:11:23 -0700 From: "Christopher W. Carlson" Message-Id: <9704151411.ZM17232@heaven.newport.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:11:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) "Re: EFS and XFS file systems support" (Apr 15, 2:09pm) References: <199704152109.OAA12094@neteng.engr.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy) Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support Cc: Steve Alexander , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1245 Lines: 32 On Apr 15, 2:09pm, Larry McVoy wrote: > Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support > At this point, since we are moving away from EFS, it is possible > that we would be willing to donate a version of the EFS code to > Linux. I can probably get that cleared. But someone else would > have to do the port, I'm too busy. If you find someone to do the > port, let me know. > >-- End of excerpt from Larry McVoy If you can get it cleared, I'll do the port. Initially, I'll port it to my system at home and create an EFS filesystem on a Zip drive and see if I can read it here in the office. If that all works, then I'll pass my source to one of the other guys who actually has a linux SGI box. -- Chris Carlson +------------------------------------------------------+ | Also, carlson@sgi.com | | Work: (714) 756-5976 SGI vmail: 678-4530 | | FAX: (714) 833-9503 | | | | Trivia fact: an electroencephalogram shows that a | | human brain and a bowl of quivering lime Jell-O have | | the same waves. [Time Magazine, Mar 17, 1997] | +------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Apr 15 14:17:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12399; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:17:34 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA12503 for linux-list; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:17:01 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (fddi-refugee.engr.sgi.com [192.26.75.26]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12499 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:16:59 -0700 Received: from refugee.engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by refugee.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA16516; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:16:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199704152116.OAA16516@refugee.engr.sgi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Christopher W. Carlson" Cc: lm@neteng.engr.sgi.com (Larry McVoy), linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS and XFS file systems support In-reply-to: Message from carlson@heaven.newport.sgi.com of 15 Apr 1997 14:06:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:16:50 -0700 From: Steve Alexander Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 340 Lines: 12 "Christopher W. Carlson" writes: >Hey, I'd love to switch to iso9660. Unfortunately, how do we read all >the CDs that have already been generated? Adding 9660 does not require us to remove EFS. I think the issue may have more to do with PROMs and sash and stuff like that than the OS proper. -- Steve From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 17 14:04:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA15043; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:04:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01835 for linux-list; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:03:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01732 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:03:07 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11795 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:02:59 -0700 Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA30895; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199704172046.PAA30895@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: IRIX volume manager X-Windows: Putting new limits on productivity. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 432 Lines: 13 Hello, I was reading a very nice paper on the design of XFS and found a mention to a volume manager. According to the illustration, it seems like the volume manager sits between the buffer cache and the disks, which led me to believe that it is implemented as a device driver. Where can I get more information on the design of IRIX's volume manager? Is there any nice paper like the XFS one published? Cheers, Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 17 15:23:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA01406; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:23:42 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA03318 for linux-list; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:23:01 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA03306 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:22:58 -0700 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA01191 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:22:52 -0700 Received: from kernel.panic.julia.de (kernel.panic.julia.de [194.221.49.153]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23226 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:19:59 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle Received: (from ralf@localhost) by kernel.panic.julia.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA14860 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:21:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199704172221.AAA14860@kernel.panic.julia.de> Subject: ECOFF booting To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:21:26 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 382 Lines: 12 Hi all, due to problems with the current bootloader Milo for the little endian machines when recompiling I finally took myself the time to fix the ELF to ECOFF converter. This should also solve the problems with older ECOFF-only firmware in Indyies. The code will be in Milo 0.28 to be released as soon as it has been tested on Magnums/Olivetties. Ralf -- 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Apr 18 15:59:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA20741; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:59:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA16479 for linux-list; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:58:17 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA16457 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:58:12 -0700 Received: by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA13888; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:35:30 +1200 From: alambie@wellington.sgi.com (Alistair Lambie) Message-Id: <199704182235.KAA13888@soyuz.wellington.sgi.com> Subject: Re: init=/bin/sh and serial devices To: davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:35:30 +1200 (NZT) Cc: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com, knobi@munich.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704150209.WAA00938@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at Apr 14, 97 10:09:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 975 Lines: 24 > > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:05:52 -0700 > From: "William J. Earl" > > Does the textport driver run in color-index mode? If so, it > will probably work on the 8-bit card. The cards are largely > identical, except for the depth of the frame buffer. > > If memory serves, I left the chip in the exact mode the firmware has > set it to. So if the firmware sets up the card to use color-index > mode, then I do as well in the driver. (I think I did this so I did > not have to deal with monitor frequencies, and resolutions, and that > sort of thing) > > But my text rendering code may make assumptions about frame buffer > depth, I draw them using the various simpler raster operation commands > the Newport has, so someone who knows would have to look at my code. > I've been away for a few days, so sorry about the late reply :-) It definitely works on an 8 bit machine. That is what I have used in the past. Cheers, Alistair From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 30 02:34:29 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA20207; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:34:29 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA17777 for linux-list; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:33:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA17772 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:33:29 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA12454 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:29:45 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA24193 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:25:19 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199704300925.LAA24193@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA03623; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:25:16 +0200 Subject: Linux 2.1.36 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:25:15 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 951 Lines: 31 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded Linux/MIPS 2.1.36 to ftp.fnet.fr and kernel.panic.julia.de. The file will appear at FNet later today when one of the admins has moved it online. The number of changes compared to my last real release 2.1.14 is too large to be enumerated and people still having patches against this release will probably have their fun with them ... This release integrates all of Linus' kernel patches and most of the MIPS specific patches I still had on hold. Because I don't have a Indy for testing this release is completly untested on SGI machines. Ralf 93141ebd8f8188b1e1ed1e02cd68948a linux-2.1.36.tar.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAgUBM2cP90ckbl6vezDBAQEvzgQAio00le2/AamTFr3jQHl0NaLgKYy9seq6 tELgbMz4/xPE5KVFOOmeOs+lZGp5JXfOv9exXWr4PEcu0ZJkd/3uxdBdFR1QUba6 +lKiExtyUZtOw+WvTBIlgm2cGXGqMSHrEjSaTlkqzPtzveiYxGV+yW7mO0qn4c2f p8cgPKtzVEE= =zEju -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 30 09:41:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA04337; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:41:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA13162 for linux-list; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:32:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA13094 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:32:20 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA09527 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:32:16 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA01989; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:34:20 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704301534.LAA01989@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Linux 2.1.36 In-Reply-To: <199704300925.LAA24193@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> from Ralf Baechle at "Apr 30, 97 11:25:15 am" To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 576 Lines: 15 Thus spake Ralf Baechle: > Because I don't have a Indy for testing this release is completly > untested on SGI machines. I'll take care of that when I get in to the office today (home sick this morning). Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 30 13:02:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA14781; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:02:08 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA08697 for linux-list; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:01:09 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA08674 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:01:04 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA19342 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:01:02 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA27997; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:57:13 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199704301957.VAA27997@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id VAA06582; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:57:11 +0200 Subject: Re: Linux 2.1.36 To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:57:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199704301534.LAA01989@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Apr 30, 97 11:34:19 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 390 Lines: 13 Hi, > > Because I don't have a Indy for testing this release is completly > > untested on SGI machines. > > I'll take care of that when I get in to the office today (home sick > this morning). Ok. Please send patches and bug reports to ralf@uni-koblenz.de. I'll be off for one week in the Silicon Valley and my other folders will probably be hopeless overflowed when I return. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 30 15:16:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA03347; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:16:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA04485 for linux-list; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:16:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA04479 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:16:12 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA25276 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:16:10 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA06646 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:01:36 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704302201.SAA06646@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: crti.o To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:01:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 682 Lines: 17 I've installed Ralf's mips-linux-targetted gcc and binutils, and I'm getting _real_ close. It's getting to the linking stage, but it's looking for a file called crti.o, which I can't find. I've got crt[1n] from my Indy's /usr/lib, but there's no crti.o to be found on there. Is this a configuration problem? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- Head geek -- System exorcist #> #> "Have you considered a life? I hear they're quite affordable #> these days." --- shields@tembel.org From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Apr 30 16:12:31 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA15834; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:12:31 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA26099 for linux-list; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:12:01 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA26092 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:11:58 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA09072 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:11:51 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA07391 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 19:11:45 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199704302311.TAA07391@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: cross compiling! To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 19:11:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 588 Lines: 14 Turns out that the crti.o stuff was on the Linux/Indy root, so I'm in business now. I just compiled a (static) binary with the xcompiler, and now I'm just waiting for the kernel to transfer. Next: dynamic binaries! Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> UNIX medicine man -- dark magick, cheap! #> #> When the going gets tough, the tough give cryptic error messages. #> "We believe in rough consensus and running code."