From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jul 31 17:52:10 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA235723; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA17586 for linux-list; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:51:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA17543 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:50:59 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA24321 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:41:49 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA18701 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:41:42 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708010041.CAA18701@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id CAA04787; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:41:36 +0200 Subject: Re: CVS Update@linus.linux.sgi.com: linux To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:41:36 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199707312306.QAA13177@linus.linux.sgi.com> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Jul 31, 97 04:06:36 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 253 Lines: 7 > - Fix the mouse driver, did someone ever got any > information out from /dev/psaux on the SGI port? Using the ps/2 ouse driver as a module is also broken; the attempt will result in an Ooops. Well, it would. The oops code is broken also. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 1 13:43:51 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ([192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA122970; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA15368 for linux-list; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:43:16 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA15270 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:43:07 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA01321 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:43:00 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (guru-transit1-336.swansea.cymru.net [163.164.160.20]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA22009 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:40:37 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0wuN4i-0005FuC; Fri, 1 Aug 97 20:09 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: This should speed things up a teensy bit To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 20:09:20 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1917 Lines: 49 Forwarded message: > From redhat.com!redhat-devel-list-request Fri Aug 1 17:23:44 1997 > Resent-Date: 1 Aug 1997 15:16:59 -0000 > Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; > MBOX-Line: From redhat-devel-list-request@redhat.com Fri Aug 1 11:16:59 1997 > Message-Id: <199708011516.LAA02158@tristan.redhat.com> > To: redhat-devel-list@redhat.com > From: "Michael K. Johnson" > Subject: jury-rigged devel tree now available > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:16:50 -0400 > Sender: johnsonm@tristan.redhat.com > Resent-Message-ID: <"uaWck3.0.m3.htVup"@mail2.redhat.com> > Resent-From: redhat-devel-list@redhat.com > Reply-To: redhat-devel-list@redhat.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2037 > X-Loop: redhat-devel-list@redhat.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: redhat-devel-list-request@redhat.com > X-URL: http://www.redhat.com > > > I got tired of explaining why we were late getting the devel tree back > on line, and decided to do something about it. It's jury-rigged, but > it will answer most people's concerns. I took all (I think) of the > packages that have been ported to glibc and put their SRPMS in > ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/devel/tempdevel/ > > That tree is NOT being dynamically updated. However, once Erik returns > and starts doing more glibc work, the theory is that he'll have time to > also set up the correctly and dynamically updated devel tree as well, so > that shouldn't be a big problem. > > Usual disclaimers apply: this packages have not been heavily tested, > yada yada yada... > > michaelkjohnson > > "Magazines all too frequently lead to books and should be regarded by the > prudent as the heavy petting of literature." -- Fran Lebowitz > > > -- > To unsubscribe: > mail -s unsubscribe redhat-devel-list-request@redhat.com < /dev/null > > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 5 08:20:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA33449; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA06259 for linux-list; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:19:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA06253 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:19:51 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.dsai.com (gatekeeper.dsai.com [192.94.201.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA07305 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:19:49 -0700 env-from (schaefer@dsai.com) Received: from ratbert.daic.dsai.com by gatekeeper.dsai.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI) for <@gatekeeper.dsai.com:linux@engr.sgi.com> id JAA18725; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:17:54 -0600 Received: by ratbert.daic.dsai.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) for linux@engr.sgi.com id JAA06925; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:20:19 -0600 From: "Mark Schaefer" Message-Id: <9708050920.ZM6923@ratbert.daic.dsai.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:20:19 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Kernel instructions... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 281 Lines: 10 SGI Group, Are there any further instructions on how to install the Linux kernel after it's been compiled? I know IRIX will automatically install unix.new on bootup, is there some method like that to use? Is there a reason MILO is included on the ftp site? -- Mark Schaefer From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 5 13:41:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA07836; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA25291 for linux-list; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:08:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA25266 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:08:54 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA01431 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:08:46 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id UAA15059; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:08:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:08:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: some binaries Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 189 Lines: 10 hello, i have put some binaries up for ftp, until i find the time to make RPMs, just in case may be helpful to anybody .. they're located on ftp://zero.aec.at/pub/linux/sgi/ --oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 5 13:38:41 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA07673; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA07348 for linux-list; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:52:07 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07298 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:51:57 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA14097 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:51:56 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA06002 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:48:33 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708051848.OAA06002@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: indyIRQ.S To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:48:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1459 Lines: 31 Up-to-the-minute copy of the kernel, Ralf's Intel binutils, etc. mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/export/sgi-linux/kernel/linux/include -D__GOGOGO__ -c indyIRQ.S -o indyIRQ.o indyIRQ.S: Assembler messages: indyIRQ.S:72: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code indyIRQ.S:83: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code indyIRQ.S:95: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code indyIRQ.S:107: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code indyIRQ.S:124: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code indyIRQ.S:75: Error: Can not represent relocation in this object file format indyIRQ.S:86: Error: Can not represent relocation in this object file format indyIRQ.S:98: Error: Can not represent relocation in this object file format indyIRQ.S:110: Error: Can not represent relocation in this object file format indyIRQ.S:127: Error: Can not represent relocation in this object file format make[1]: *** [indyIRQ.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... Any ideas? I'm also seeing a problem with asm/atomic.h and the like; stuff about invalid operands for binary +, etc. I expect it's a CFLAGS or GCC spec file thing, but those should both be standard. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Linux: because every cycle counts. #> #> "I don't know what you do for a living[...]" -- perry@piermont.com #> "I change the world." -- davem@caip.rutgers.edu From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 5 13:38:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA07675; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA14662 for linux-list; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:20:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA14632 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:20:31 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA22371 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:20:29 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29577; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:19:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:19:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199708051919.OAA29577@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: schaefer@dsai.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <9708050920.ZM6923@ratbert.daic.dsai.com> (schaefer@dsai.com) Subject: Re: Kernel instructions... X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 444 Lines: 13 > Are there any further instructions on how to install the Linux kernel > after it's been compiled? I know IRIX will automatically install unix.new on > bootup, is there some method like that to use? Is there a reason MILO is > included on the ftp site? Just copy your kernel to an EFS/XFS accessible partition and then when booting your Indy, go to the mainteinance mode, from there go to the monitor and type: boot /vmlinux Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 6 02:27:03 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA31465; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA12529 for linux-list; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:26:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA12518 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:26:39 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA23516 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:26:28 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11554; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:25:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708060925.LAA11554@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA07231; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:25:55 +0200 Subject: Re: indyIRQ.S To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:25:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708052111.XAA01741@alpha.franken.de> from "Thomas Bogendoerfer" at Aug 5, 97 11:11:49 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 620 Lines: 15 > > mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/export/sgi-linux/kernel/linux/include -D__GOGOGO__ -c indyIRQ.S -o indyIRQ.o > > indyIRQ.S: Assembler messages: > > indyIRQ.S:72: Warning: No .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code > > [...] > > Any ideas? > > yes, add a -fno-pic to your CFLAGS. The default for the current mips-linux-gcc > is to produce PIC code and most of the .S files aren't prepared to be compiled > this way. None will compile not will the linker accept mixtures of PIC and non-PIC object files. I suppose the cause is didling with the makefiles since -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic is default for MIPS. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 6 02:43:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA31437; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA13568 for linux-list; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:42:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA13554 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:42:32 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA25341 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:42:21 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA13489; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:42:06 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708060942.LAA13489@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA07368; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:42:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Kernel instructions... To: schaefer@dsai.com (Mark Schaefer) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:42:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9708050920.ZM6923@ratbert.daic.dsai.com> from "Mark Schaefer" at Aug 5, 97 09:20:19 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 952 Lines: 18 > Are there any further instructions on how to install the Linux kernel > after it's been compiled? I know IRIX will automatically install unix.new on > bootup, is there some method like that to use? Is there a reason MILO is > included on the ftp site? The way the kernel needs to be installed depends from the particular machine. On the little endian machines we use a two stage boot process, the kernel loads Milo, then Milo load the kernel possibly other files, then runs it. You might also need something like Milo because your old M120's firmware expects (at least I believe that ...) ECOFF exectuables, while the kernel is being built as an ELF executable. Milo won't work on the M120 firmware, though because it has a different firmware, but this shouldn't be tooo hard to fix. Maybe one of the SGI or ex-Mips people on this list knows more about that firmware. Is it similar or identical to pre-ARC SGI firmware as I suppose? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 6 14:23:12 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA43708; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA17586 for linux-list; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:22:39 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA17531 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:22:31 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA11744 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:22:28 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA06168; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:21:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:21:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Mark Schaefer cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Kernel instructions... In-Reply-To: <9708050920.ZM6923@ratbert.daic.dsai.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 665 Lines: 27 This is documented (albeit somewhat outdated) in the HOWTO, which is hanging off of http://www.linux.sgi.com/ . The new FAQ which handles this a lot better is on its way... - Alex Alex deVries Success is realizing System Administrator attainable dreams. The EngSoc Project On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Mark Schaefer wrote: > > SGI Group, > > Are there any further instructions on how to install the Linux kernel > after it's been compiled? I know IRIX will automatically install unix.new on > bootup, is there some method like that to use? Is there a reason MILO is > included on the ftp site? > > -- > Mark Schaefer > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 6 16:48:04 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA59699; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA08530 for linux-list; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:46:49 -0700 Received: from unhinged.engr.sgi.com (unhinged.engr.sgi.com [150.166.142.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA08516 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:46:47 -0700 Received: (from chadm@localhost) by unhinged.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA29956; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:46:46 -0700 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Challenge S From: Chad McDaniel Date: 06 Aug 1997 16:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.59/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 387 Lines: 10 Does anyone have any ideas about SGI-Linux on a Challenge S? As I understand it a Challenge S is basically an Indy without video and an extra SCSI controller. Plus, costomers with them aren't concerned about video or getting X to run & therefore SGI-Linux would be considered 'done' on them a bit sooner than the full Indy version. Is Linux run much on server-only systems? -- -chad From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 07:04:03 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA14402; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA20613 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:03:35 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA20603 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:03:32 -0700 Received: from cygnus by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA24892; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:03:28 -0400 Message-ID: <33E9D5B0.18B77AE6@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:03:28 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01b6C [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad McDaniel CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Challenge S X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1330 Lines: 36 Chad McDaniel wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas about SGI-Linux on a Challenge S? As I > understand it a Challenge S is basically an Indy without video and an > extra SCSI controller. Plus, costomers with them aren't concerned > about video or getting X to run & therefore SGI-Linux would be > considered 'done' on them a bit sooner than the full Indy version. > > Is Linux run much on server-only systems? > > -- > -chad I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a very important piece - lockd for NFS. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 07:39:28 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA14533; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA25968 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:39:01 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA25960 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:38:58 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA21308 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:38:56 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA25462; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:35:08 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708071435.KAA25462@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Challenge S In-Reply-To: <33E9D5B0.18B77AE6@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from Eric Kimminau at "Aug 7, 97 10:03:28 am" To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chadm@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1402 Lines: 34 Thus spake Eric Kimminau: > I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a > very important piece - lockd for NFS. Or, perhaps not: [shaver@neon fs]$ pwd /usr/src/linux/fs [shaver@neon fs]$ ls -l lockd total 99 -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 513 Apr 4 14:06 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 4721 Apr 4 14:06 clntlock.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 13087 Apr 7 21:43 clntproc.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 7941 Apr 16 00:47 host.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 873 Apr 4 14:06 lockd_syms.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 4890 Apr 4 15:21 mon.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 6472 Apr 16 00:47 svc.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 16741 Apr 4 15:21 svclock.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 14254 Apr 4 14:06 svcproc.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 2549 Apr 4 14:06 svcshare.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 6680 May 12 13:35 svcsubs.c -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 13785 Apr 4 14:06 xdr.c [shaver@neon fs]$ =) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- Head geek -- System exorcist #> #> "Have you considered a life? I hear they're quite affordable #> these days." --- shields@tembel.org From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 07:52:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA14617; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA28180 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:51:56 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA28148 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:51:45 -0700 Received: from cygnus by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA26202; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <33E9E0F1.BEBC7A4C@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:51:29 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01b6C [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Shaver CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, chadm@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Challenge S X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199708071435.KAA25462@neon.ingenia.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1930 Lines: 54 Mike Shaver wrote: > > Thus spake Eric Kimminau: > > I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a > > very important piece - lockd for NFS. > > Or, perhaps not: > > [shaver@neon fs]$ pwd > /usr/src/linux/fs > [shaver@neon fs]$ ls -l lockd > total 99 > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 513 Apr 4 14:06 Makefile > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 4721 Apr 4 14:06 clntlock.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 13087 Apr 7 21:43 clntproc.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 7941 Apr 16 00:47 host.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 873 Apr 4 14:06 lockd_syms.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 4890 Apr 4 15:21 mon.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 6472 Apr 16 00:47 svc.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 16741 Apr 4 15:21 svclock.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 14254 Apr 4 14:06 svcproc.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 2549 Apr 4 14:06 svcshare.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 6680 May 12 13:35 svcsubs.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 shaver users 13785 Apr 4 14:06 xdr.c > [shaver@neon fs]$ > > =) > > Mike Cool!!!!!!!! Thanks Mike! -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 10:32:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA15788; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA15797 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:31:51 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA15782 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:31:48 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA08417 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:31:43 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21512; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:30:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:30:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199708071730.MAA21512@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Pending fixes X-Info: When in doubt, blame the network Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1107 Lines: 34 Hello guys, Here is a smallish list of tasks that should be done, for those that want to start coding some bits: - Find and fix this bug: cat > argv-bad.c << EOF main (int argc, char *argv []){ printf ("%s\n", argv [0]); } EOF gcc argv-bad.c -o argv-bad ./argv-bad - NFS is crashing after heavy usage. This is not the same problem that the 2.1 tree has on the intel. Every time it crashes on me it fails around the end of do_bottom_half. - Fix the ethernet driver, it is timing out too frequently. - Look up the semaphore IRIX api from the developers toolbox in www.sgi.com, figure out how these C functions use the /dev/usema and /dev/usemaclone devices. - If you feel like it, implement those devices ;-) I personally installed lots of Ralf's RPMS on my Indy and compiled some more programs to prepare for debugging the Xsgi IRIX server, with the exception of the semaphore devices, the mouse and the newport context switch code, everything else is ready now. I will work on getting gdb up next, since I refuse to debug this beast with printf/printk :-). Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 10:40:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA16015; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA19447 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:40:34 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA19438 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:40:32 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA10984 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:40:30 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA29867; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:36:37 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708071736.NAA29867@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Pending fixes In-Reply-To: <199708071730.MAA21512@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from Miguel de Icaza at "Aug 7, 97 12:30:46 pm" To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 833 Lines: 20 Thus spake Miguel de Icaza: > - Look up the semaphore IRIX api from the developers toolbox > in www.sgi.com, figure out how these C functions use the > /dev/usema and /dev/usemaclone devices. > > - If you feel like it, implement those devices ;-) I'm working on these, and will update the projects page appropriately. (Once they get my ClubDev account straightened out, it'll go a little faster, but I need to brush up on my driver writing anyway.) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> UNIX medicine man -- dark magick, cheap! #> #> When the going gets tough, the tough give cryptic error messages. #> "We believe in rough consensus and running code." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 12:44:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA28058; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA11473 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:44:28 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA11451 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:44:26 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA18454 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:44:23 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23965; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:43:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:43:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199708071943.OAA23965@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: eak@detroit.sgi.com CC: chadm@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <33E9D5B0.18B77AE6@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> (message from Eric Kimminau on Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:03:28 -0400) Subject: Re: Challenge S X-Windows: A terminal disease. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 242 Lines: 8 > I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a > very important piece - lockd for NFS. Linux got lockd in the 2.1.x series of kernels (which is the one that is available for people to test on the MIPS ;-). Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 12:24:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA27799; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA04682 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:23:45 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA04674 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:23:42 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA12698 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:23:10 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA12433; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:20:46 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0wwZA8-0005FiC; Thu, 7 Aug 97 21:28 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Pending fixes To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:27:59 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708071730.MAA21512@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Aug 7, 97 12:30:46 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 225 Lines: 7 > - NFS is crashing after heavy usage. This is not the same > problem that the 2.1 tree has on the intel. Every time it > crashes on me it fails around the end of do_bottom_half. How big are your kernel stacks ? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 13:40:49 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA28812; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA03678 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:40:29 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA03659 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:40:26 -0700 Received: from cygnus by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id QAA08072; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:39:50 -0400 Message-ID: <33EA3296.D3CE8D52@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:39:50 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01b6C [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, chadm@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Challenge S X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1339 Lines: 38 Alan Cox wrote: > > > I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a > > very important piece - lockd for NFS. > > Two things > > 1. Linux 2.1.x does have a lock daemon > 2. Most people and tools avoid NFS locking like the plague because > its faster to use polls based on the atomic NFS properties you > do have and some short sleeps. > > Oh yes and 3. - NFS locking really doesn't seem to have much in the > security area.. > > Alan Ever tried using microsoft apps over pcnfs without lockd? -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 12:42:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA28105; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA10899 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:42:14 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA10888 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:42:11 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA17997 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:42:06 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA12600; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:36:36 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0wwZPV-0005FjC; Thu, 7 Aug 97 21:43 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Challenge S To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:43:53 +0100 (BST) Cc: chadm@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <33E9D5B0.18B77AE6@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Aug 7, 97 10:03:28 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 421 Lines: 15 > I think it would be a great application but Linux is sorely missing a > very important piece - lockd for NFS. Two things 1. Linux 2.1.x does have a lock daemon 2. Most people and tools avoid NFS locking like the plague because its faster to use polls based on the atomic NFS properties you do have and some short sleeps. Oh yes and 3. - NFS locking really doesn't seem to have much in the security area.. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 7 14:42:07 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA30419; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01323 for linux-list; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:41:46 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01316 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:41:44 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA21270 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:41:42 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA00275 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:37:53 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708072137.RAA00275@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: usema stat() magic To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:37:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1252 Lines: 27 I'm starting to work on the /dev/usema{,clone} drivers, and it looks pretty conceptually straightforward. It looks like libc uses some data hidden in the stat structure (dunno what yet, but I'm sure Miguel will need it to be accurate =) ). What I can't figure out is how that data's hidden in the stat structure. I could _completely_ understand an IOCTL on the clone fd to get data, but it doesn't seem to do that. It does an fstat() on the fd it gets back... I tried looking at the stat data, but I can't see anything in there that leaps out at me. If it's just for diagnostics, I'm not _too_ worried about it, certainly not in the short term, but I have the sinking feeling that there's more to it than that. It's quite handy that the zero-contention cases are all handled in user-space, BTW, except that my test cases have to get that much more complex because of it. =) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Ignore the man behind the curtain. #> #> "And then I realized that it never should have worked in the first #> place. Thus, it would not work again until rewritten." --- Anon. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 8 08:25:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA75349; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA14407 for linux-list; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:23:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA14364 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:23:34 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA29160 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:23:32 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA06545 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:19:35 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708081519.LAA06545@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: par and us* To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:19:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1296 Lines: 46 I've got a simple lock-contention program that I'm using to see how the usema stuff works. When I try to run the program under par, though, it only lets me trace one of the invocations: 1 [shaver@linus ~/work/usema]$ par -s -SS -l -o lock-p.par ./lock p 1 Creating new lock. 1 Storing lock. 1 Getting lock. 1 Waiting... (now I start the second one) 2 [shaver@linus ~/work/usema]$ par -s -SS -l -o lock-c2.par ./lock c 2 Cannot syscall trace pid 23779:Resource busy 2 Finding existing lock. 2 Getting lock. 2 [shaver@linus ~/work/usema]$ (back to the shell!) (release the lock on the first invocation) 1 1 Releasing lock. 1 Exiting 1 [shaver@linus ~/work/usema]$ (and now I get more output from the second invocation) 2 [shaver@linus ~/work/usema]$ Waiting... 2 Releasing lock. 2 Exiting Under normal circumstances (no par), I have to press enter on the second one as well for it to release the lock and exit. When par is doing its (arguably weird, maybe broken) thing, I don't have to do that... Is this a known problem? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Linux: because every cycle counts. #> #> "I don't know what you do for a living[...]" -- perry@piermont.com #> "I change the world." -- davem@caip.rutgers.edu From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 8 10:42:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA81511; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA03278 for linux-list; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:41:49 -0700 Received: from blammo.engr.sgi.com (blammo.engr.sgi.com [130.62.15.51]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA03264 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:41:46 -0700 Received: (from jwiede@localhost) by blammo.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA01322 for linux@cthulhu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:41:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:41:46 -0700 From: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com (John Wiederhirn) Message-Id: <9708081041.ZM971@blammo.engr.sgi.com> X-Face: 'rEN+vrv,h:"?|h{Q,A@Is5T#VUFb=Kp>c]5sK@![sLA$9^UoAtgryPHsqEOv5p&09H\E:p )h:LCq-vz/dWH?Kn#A334hP4mM/**@..@TF($8<2LyeDSJqsnEnZ~O{>`EWm]QQ\>aSm9j,J_t0NF` Rt`td=N-r1R~c2}l+Q^q[bYP0d_bzVWox>.pWNi$75*m,BlJ4-X"Q`x`OUCkz/gg>pIUf|KWs6{r=J zE7[.14o:oq9Du"#C`^(MM_`?#!k:5%P4:Pfpy)5X7@fE|gq0XV(s/jUG?[>#ldY_4tG(Ng$:DRC X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 275 Lines: 8 Are there any plans to move (maybe it's already there) the SGI version of Linux to a GGI-model design? (see http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/) -- John Wiederhirn (DSD, Graphics Kernel MTS) jwiede@engr.sgi.com "Smithers, unleash the human insight and creativity." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 8 15:21:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA108215; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA11228 for linux-list; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:21:01 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA11157; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:20:48 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA25572; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:20:35 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02667; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:20:22 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708082220.AAA02667@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id AAA15810; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:20:18 +0200 Subject: Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI To: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com (John Wiederhirn) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:20:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9708081041.ZM971@blammo.engr.sgi.com> from "John Wiederhirn" at Aug 8, 97 10:41:46 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 468 Lines: 11 > Are there any plans to move (maybe it's already there) the > SGI version of Linux to a GGI-model design? > (see http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/) Well, we have discussed using GGI. Last I checkend GGI was still itself in a state of flux and the last thing I want to do is to open another battle field. Technical reasons against GGI was mostly that the original design was very bloated as far as the kernel is affected. This has been improoved somwhat since. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 8 15:41:28 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA109143; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA17593 for linux-list; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:40:38 -0700 Received: from blammo.engr.sgi.com (blammo.engr.sgi.com [130.62.15.51]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA17569; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:40:32 -0700 Received: (from jwiede@localhost) by blammo.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA27183; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:40:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:40:30 -0700 From: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com (John Wiederhirn) Message-Id: <9708081540.ZM26801@blammo.engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Ralf Baechle "Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI" (Aug 9, 12:20am) References: <199708082220.AAA02667@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> X-Face: 'rEN+vrv,h:"?|h{Q,A@Is5T#VUFb=Kp>c]5sK@![sLA$9^UoAtgryPHsqEOv5p&09H\E:p )h:LCq-vz/dWH?Kn#A334hP4mM/**@..@TF($8<2LyeDSJqsnEnZ~O{>`EWm]QQ\>aSm9j,J_t0NF` Rt`td=N-r1R~c2}l+Q^q[bYP0d_bzVWox>.pWNi$75*m,BlJ4-X"Q`x`OUCkz/gg>pIUf|KWs6{r=J zE7[.14o:oq9Du"#C`^(MM_`?#!k:5%P4:Pfpy)5X7@fE|gq0XV(s/jUG?[>#ldY_4tG(Ng$:DRC X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI Cc: Ralf Baechle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 895 Lines: 22 On Aug 9, 12:20am, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > Are there any plans to move (maybe it's already there) the > > SGI version of Linux to a GGI-model design? > > (see http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/) > > Well, we have discussed using GGI. Last I checkend GGI was still itself > in a state of flux and the last thing I want to do is to open another > battle field. Technical reasons against GGI was mostly that the original > design was very bloated as far as the kernel is affected. This has > been improoved somwhat since. I'm not so attached to the notion of GGI as much as for gfx having an in-kernel-space presence in Linux (Linux/SGI is going to need this, as I suspect is any Linux that attempts hardware acceleration of OpenGL or other similar APIs). John -- John Wiederhirn (DSD, Graphics Kernel MTS) jwiede@engr.sgi.com "Smithers, unleash the human insight and creativity." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 8 18:24:38 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA118086; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA01433 for linux-list; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:24:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA01324; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:23:58 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA05100; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:23:52 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA28961; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 03:23:39 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708090123.DAA28961@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA16102; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 03:23:36 +0200 Subject: Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI To: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com (John Wiederhirn) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 03:23:35 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9708081540.ZM26801@blammo.engr.sgi.com> from "John Wiederhirn" at Aug 8, 97 03:40:30 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 791 Lines: 16 > > Well, we have discussed using GGI. Last I checkend GGI was still itself > > in a state of flux and the last thing I want to do is to open another > > battle field. Technical reasons against GGI was mostly that the original > > design was very bloated as far as the kernel is affected. This has > > been improoved somwhat since. > > I'm not so attached to the notion of GGI as much as for gfx > having an in-kernel-space presence in Linux (Linux/SGI is > going to need this, as I suspect is any Linux that attempts > hardware acceleration of OpenGL or other similar APIs). Miguel "Da Newport Man" de Icaza is working on the required kernel stuff. Since a real native GFX support is a fairly big project currently the emulation stuff needed for the SGI X server has priority. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 09:12:52 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA136143; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA04558 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:12:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA04548 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:12:27 -0700 Received: from odin.waw.com (ns1.waw.com [194.51.88.250]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA11810 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:12:16 -0700 env-from (vincent@waw.com) Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/waw) with SMTP id SAA23028 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:16:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:16:02 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708090123.DAA28961@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1523 Lines: 39 Hello, I've just joined this ML, and I'm trying to contribute to the Linux/SGI development. Since I'm not too good at kernel hacking, I've tough about working on porting the userland part (I have some experience with this part since I've been a Debian developper for a while and initiated the Debian/PowerPC port). By now I don't have access to any SGI hardware, but i've been able to build some packages with the crossdev (i486-linux) packages from ftp.linux.sgi.com. So here are my questions: 1/ Which are the 'most wanted' packages not yet recompiled/ported to Linux/SGI? I've looked at the RPMs available RPM list, and some important packages seem unavailable yet. (sed,tar,perl come to mind). 2/ While using the crossdev gcc, several times I got complains about a file 'sgidefs.h' missing (from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/include/va-mips.h, line 41). Commenting the '#include' file made the compile work, but I not sure it's the right fix. 3/ Can any1 confirm/correct the following values for GNU/autoconf: ac_cv_c_bigendian=no ac_cv_c_char_unsigned=no ac_cv_sizeof_long=4 ac_cv_sizeof_int=4 Cordialement, -- - ** Linux ** +-------------------+ ** WAW ** - - vincent@debian.org | RENARDIAS Vincent | vincent@waw.com - - Debian/GNU Linux +-------------------+ http://www.waw.com/ - - http://www.debian.org/ | WAW (33) 4 91 81 21 45 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 10:42:18 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA138237; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA18660 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:41:56 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA18651 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:41:53 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA23174 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 10:41:50 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA09294; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:41:41 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708091741.TAA09294@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA16668; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:41:40 +0200 Subject: Re: your mail To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:41:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Renardias" at Aug 9, 97 06:16:02 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2165 Lines: 53 > I've just joined this ML, and I'm trying to contribute to the > Linux/SGI development. Since I'm not too good at kernel hacking, I've > tough about working on porting the userland part (I have some experience > with this part since I've been a Debian developper for a while and > initiated the Debian/PowerPC port). > By now I don't have access to any SGI hardware, but i've been able > to build some packages with the crossdev (i486-linux) packages from > ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > So here are my questions: > > 1/ Which are the 'most wanted' packages not yet recompiled/ported to > Linux/SGI? I've looked at the RPMs available RPM list, and some important > packages seem unavailable yet. (sed,tar,perl come to mind). sed, tar: confilicting declaration in source and libc. Both work other- wise. Perl: builds shrink wrapped & works, just the binary packaging with RPM fails. I think because groff/man are missing. I've got another two dozen packages on disk which I'll upload when I next pass by in Mountain View ... > 2/ While using the crossdev gcc, several times I got complains about a > file 'sgidefs.h' missing (from > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/include/va-mips.h, line 41). > Commenting the '#include' file made the compile work, but I not sure it's > the right fix. Not the right thing, but won't hurt. I shows that your libc is not installed correctly. > 3/ Can any1 confirm/correct the following values for GNU/autoconf: > ac_cv_c_bigendian=no MIPS CPUs can be configured for both byte orders. SGI, Mips Inc., Sony machines are wired big endian, most other machines are little endian or configurable by replacing the firmware. As a consequence we have to build all packages twice, once for each byte sex. mips-linux-* tools are big endian by default, mipsel-linux-* tools little endian. > ac_cv_c_char_unsigned=no True by default, unless you give -funsigned-char. > ac_cv_sizeof_long=4 > ac_cv_sizeof_int=4 True by default in the mips{el}-linux configurations; the size of these types can be changed by -mlong64 and -mint64. These options are incompatible with libc, so I mention them only for completeness. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 11:48:06 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA139943; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA01089 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:47:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA01079; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:47:28 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA01908; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:47:26 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14036; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:46:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:46:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199708091846.NAA14036@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <9708081041.ZM971@blammo.engr.sgi.com> (jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI X-Lost: In case of doubt, make it sound convincing Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 482 Lines: 14 > Are there any plans to move (maybe it's already there) the > SGI version of Linux to a GGI-model design? > (see http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/) It is nice, but they assume that a frame buffer is available on the system, the GGI acceleration features are not even close to what the low end Indy machines have, they are too general acceleration features. We will support the direct rendering interface on Linux/SGI, which will take care of using the nice SGI hardware. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 12:01:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA140136; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA02994 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:01:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA02970; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:01:16 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA03571; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:01:15 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14144; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:00:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:00:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199708091900.OAA14144@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de In-reply-to: <9708081540.ZM26801@blammo.engr.sgi.com> (jwiede@blammo.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: Linux GGI and Linux/SGI X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 32 > I'm not so attached to the notion of GGI as much as for gfx > having an in-kernel-space presence in Linux (Linux/SGI is > going to need this, as I suspect is any Linux that attempts > hardware acceleration of OpenGL or other similar APIs). What does 'gfx' mean in this context? Linux/SGI currently supports direct rendering (modulo the fact that I have not written the code to context switch the card state, which should be trivial to do). With direct rendering you do not need any graphics acceleration code in the kernel, you just need to implement the smart tricks the SGI graphics people came up with and implement some small kernel support for making the direct rendering applications and the X server work together. Check the www.linux.sgi.com page for a pointer to Mark's paper on this matter, but the idea is that we let any application that needs to talk directly to the hardware to map the video card registers into his address space. We already have the code that implements the lazy context switches for the video card [1] and bits of the resource manager. The code we will have on Linux/SGI is far better for the SGI case than what the GGI people have now and as a side beneffit it will let us run stock Irix Xsgi server. [1] the mmu code, not the actual switch, I will do that next, as I mentioned before, From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 11:36:47 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA138177; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA29157 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA29140 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:27 -0700 Received: from odin.waw.com (ns1.waw.com [194.51.88.250]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA00622 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:25 -0700 env-from (vincent@waw.com) Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/waw) with SMTP id UAA27158; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:40:06 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:40:06 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: Ralf Baechle cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199708091741.TAA09294@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1076 Lines: 28 On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > 2/ While using the crossdev gcc, several times I got complains about a > > file 'sgidefs.h' missing (from > > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/include/va-mips.h, line 41). > > Commenting the '#include' file made the compile work, but I not sure it's > > the right fix. > > Not the right thing, but won't hurt. I shows that your libc is > not installed correctly. I just installed the binutils/gcc crossdev packages from ftp.linux.sgi.com. Should i also install the glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz package from /pub/mips-linux? In case it matters my native libc is glibc-2.0.4 (i386). [Thanx for the explanation on endianess ;] Cordialement, -- - ** Linux ** +-------------------+ ** WAW ** - - vincent@debian.org | RENARDIAS Vincent | vincent@waw.com - - Debian/GNU Linux +-------------------+ http://www.waw.com/ - - http://www.debian.org/ | WAW (33) 4 91 81 21 45 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 12:43:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA141214; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA09219 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:42:57 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA09208 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:42:51 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA08922 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:42:49 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA22164; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:42:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708091942.VAA22164@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id VAA16786; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:42:39 +0200 Subject: Re: your mail To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:42:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Renardias" at Aug 9, 97 08:40:06 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 987 Lines: 21 > > Not the right thing, but won't hurt. I shows that your libc is > > not installed correctly. > > I just installed the binutils/gcc crossdev packages from > ftp.linux.sgi.com. Should i also install the glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz package > from /pub/mips-linux? In case it matters my native libc is glibc-2.0.4 > (i386). Well, it doesn't matter except that I built the executables with Linux libc and you therefore need that one. DANGER: When you install libs for a crosscompiler you will have to move the libs a bit around. Just doing tar zxf ... -C / will fry your native system. MIPS stuff just has too much octane to be suitable as fuel for your Intel machine ;-) Btw, as I'm writing this I've built about 88mb of binary .rpm packages running native. The sole problems I currently have is that the kernel seems to have some memory corruption problem. That is nasty because it usually hits the bitmaps ... It might as well explain Miguel's recently reported NFS problem. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 13:01:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA141844; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA13069 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:01:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA13062 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:01:30 -0700 Received: from odin.waw.com (ns1.waw.com [194.51.88.250]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA10954 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:01:27 -0700 env-from (vincent@waw.com) Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/waw) with SMTP id WAA29835; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:05:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 22:05:02 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: Ralf Baechle cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199708091942.VAA22164@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2004 Lines: 47 On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > I just installed the binutils/gcc crossdev packages from > > ftp.linux.sgi.com. Should i also install the glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz package > > from /pub/mips-linux? In case it matters my native libc is glibc-2.0.4 > > (i386). > > Well, it doesn't matter except that I built the executables with Linux > libc and you therefore need that one. DANGER: When you install libs > for a crosscompiler you will have to move the libs a bit around. > Just doing tar zxf ... -C / will fry your native system. MIPS stuff > just has too much octane to be suitable as fuel for your Intel machine ;-) Debian provides nice tools to handdle this kind of installation: - alien: allows to convert binary packages between any 2 of the {.deb,.tgz,.rpm} formats. - dpkg-cross: tool handdling cross-compilation packages. That is any file that should go into /*/lib is redirected into /usr/local/$ARCH-linux/lib. (same for the include files). It also makes it possible to build a given package for several architectures at the same time. Those tools should probably work on any Linux flavour (distrib./arch.) Anyway, I've installed glibc-2.0.4 to get around the missing sgidefs.h problem, and I run into another problem: now mips-linux-gcc complains about: % mips-linux-gcc -o pwgen pwgen.o -lm /usr/local/mips-linux/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one running mips-linux-ranlib on the given file does not change anything. (ie: still getting the same message) Did I do anything wrong, or is this a problem in the Linux/SGI glibc? Cordialement, -- - ** Linux ** +-------------------+ ** WAW ** - - vincent@debian.org | RENARDIAS Vincent | vincent@waw.com - - Debian/GNU Linux +-------------------+ http://www.waw.com/ - - http://www.debian.org/ | WAW (33) 4 91 81 21 45 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 14:12:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA143578; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA25977 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:12:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA25967 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:12:14 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA19624 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:12:12 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01472; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:12:01 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708092112.XAA01472@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id XAA16857; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:11:57 +0200 Subject: Re: your mail To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:11:56 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Renardias" at Aug 9, 97 10:05:02 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 493 Lines: 14 > % mips-linux-gcc -o pwgen pwgen.o -lm > /usr/local/mips-linux/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no > index; run ranlib to add one > > running mips-linux-ranlib on the given file does not change anything. > (ie: still getting the same message) > > Did I do anything wrong, or is this a problem in the Linux/SGI glibc? No. Looks as if your lib still isn't correctly installed. If ranlib doesn't help, then your libc.a is probably corrupted into a zero lenght file. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 15:59:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA146389; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08414 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:58:48 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08398 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:58:44 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA02591 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:58:43 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA17511; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:58 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708092253.SAA17511@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: from Vincent Renardias at "Aug 9, 97 10:05:02 pm" To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 827 Lines: 20 Thus spake Vincent Renardias: > % mips-linux-gcc -o pwgen pwgen.o -lm > /usr/local/mips-linux/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no > index; run ranlib to add one > > running mips-linux-ranlib on the given file does not change anything. > (ie: still getting the same message) Did you use mips-linux-ar to create the archive? Many packages, I've discovered, don't listen to $AR in the environment, and I used to get that error all the time. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect and Herder of Bits #> #> "Yoda say, `Just slap a little public key crypto into it' does not #> a secure system make." -- Marcus J. Ranum (mjr@clark.net) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 19:07:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA151414; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA00983 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:07:32 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA00978 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:07:29 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA24189 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:07:22 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA12374 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:06:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708100206.EAA12374@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id EAA17293; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:06:55 +0200 Subject: Bottom half bug To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:06:54 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 212 Lines: 7 Hi, seems Miguel's recently reported problem as well as the feature that -S locks the machine sometimes for some seconds, sometimes finally seem to be hidden somewhere in the bottom half handlers. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 9 18:53:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA150788; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA00021 for linux-list; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:35 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA29994 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:32 -0700 Received: from odin.waw.com (ns1.waw.com [194.51.88.250]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA22270 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:53:30 -0700 env-from (vincent@waw.com) Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/waw) with SMTP id DAA08014; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 03:57:06 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 03:57:06 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias Reply-To: Vincent Renardias To: Ralf Baechle cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199708092112.XAA01472@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2132 Lines: 52 On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > % mips-linux-gcc -o pwgen pwgen.o -lm > > /usr/local/mips-linux/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no > > index; run ranlib to add one > > > > running mips-linux-ranlib on the given file does not change anything. > > (ie: still getting the same message) > > > > Did I do anything wrong, or is this a problem in the Linux/SGI glibc? > > No. Looks as if your lib still isn't correctly installed. If ranlib > doesn't help, then your libc.a is probably corrupted into a zero lenght > file. You're right. (Not an empty file through, but somehow it got truncated to ~50 K). Reinstalling fixed it. Here's the list of what I compiled so far: file_3.20.1-6_mips.deb gzip_1.2.4-15_mips.deb debmake_3.3.11_mips.deb grep_2.0-12_mips.deb dpkg-dev_1.4.0.8_all.deb makedev_1.6-16_mips.deb dpkg_1.4.0.8_mips.deb sysklogd_1.3-17_mips.deb dpkg_1.4.0.8_mips.nondebbin.tar.gz update_1.3-1_mips.deb cpio_2.4.2-11_mips.deb tar_1.12-1_mips.deb patch_2.2-1_mips.deb sed_2.05-15_mips.deb flex_2.5.4a-1_mips.deb findutils_4.1-23_mips.deb bison_1.25-9_mips.deb shellutils_1.16-4_mips.deb diff_2.7-13_mips.deb textutils_1.22-2_mips.deb rpm_2.4.2-2_mips.deb pwgen_1-8_mips.deb adduser_3.6_all.deb These packages are available from odin.waw.com/pub/linux (the pgp signed checksums are in the changes/ subdirectory). I'd be glad if someone could test a few of them and tell me if everything is okay. Quick install instructions: untar the file dpkg_1.4.0.8_mips.nondebbin.tar.gz at the root of your FS, then install other packages with 'dpkg -i foo.deb'. Cordialement, -- - ** Linux ** +-------------------+ ** WAW ** - - vincent@debian.org | RENARDIAS Vincent | vincent@waw.com - - Debian/GNU Linux +-------------------+ http://www.waw.com/ - - http://www.debian.org/ | WAW (33) 4 91 81 21 45 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Aug 10 19:55:31 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA181130; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA18580 for linux-list; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:55:13 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA18573 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:55:10 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA10150 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:55:09 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA25855 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:50:36 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708110250.WAA25855@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: /dev/usema questions To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:50:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1285 Lines: 30 Couple of questions I'd like some enlightenment on, as I try to get /dev/usema{,clone} ready for Miguel's Xcellent Adventure: - what is us_attach.us_handle for? Is it some opaque pointer I can send to userland and get back for all the other ioctls? Please? =) - do libc and IRIX really use the minor of the filehandle to identify the usema `device' it's working with? - from sys/usioctl.h: #define UIOCBLOCK (UIOC|3) /* block, sync, intr */ #define UIOCNOIBLOCK (UIOC|5) /* block, sync, intr */ Should I take UIOCNOIBLOCK to really be "/* block, sync, nointr */"? - what's the difference between sync/async blocking/unblocking? I thought it might be that sync would mean that schedule() happened immediately, but then I don't think that async blocking makes much sense. The us* stuff is pretty cool, I must say. Someone () should think about doing it for Linux... Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Information Warfare Division #> Chief Tactical and Strategic Officer "Saepe fidelis" #> #> "I like your game, but we have to change the rules." -- Anon #> From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 11 17:03:20 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA38270; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA23959 for linux-list; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:01:25 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA23841 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:01:09 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA08060 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:01:05 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03734; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:59:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:59:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199708112359.SAA03734@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199708100206.EAA12374@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> (message from Ralf Baechle on Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:06:54 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Bottom half bug X-Home: is where the cat is Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 359 Lines: 12 Hello Ralf, list, Well, the major problem with getting gdb up was that init is for some reason setting the blocked signal mask to 0x39 (this includes sighup, sigtrap and a couple of others). I will debug this next, right now I have this gross hack on gdb to reset the signal mask to zero. Any ideas of why would init be doing this? Cheers, Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 11 21:10:22 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA42446; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA26201 for linux-list; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:07:34 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA26137 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:07:24 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA25449 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:07:21 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA03608; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 06:07:09 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708120407.GAA03608@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id GAA23511; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 06:07:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Bottom half bug To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 06:07:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708112359.SAA03734@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Aug 11, 97 06:59:07 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 759 Lines: 18 > Well, the major problem with getting gdb up was that init is for > some reason setting the blocked signal mask to 0x39 (this includes > sighup, sigtrap and a couple of others). > > I will debug this next, right now I have this gross hack on gdb to > reset the signal mask to zero. Any ideas of why would init be doing this? Well, I'll look at this when I get off the plane or so ... I finally tracked the problem with -s locking up the machine down. It's a missing restore_flags() in the newport driver that makes the keyboard driver bottom half go bobo. Also we were missing irq_enter/ irq_leave in the Indy interrupt handler. The patch, well, it's in my suit case. Have fun with your crashing boxes :-) California, I'm comin', Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 09:33:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA111984; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA06650 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:32:58 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA06502 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:32:40 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA10577 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:32:04 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07889; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:26:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:26:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199708121626.LAA07889@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de CC: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199708120407.GAA03608@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> (message from Ralf Baechle on Tue, 12 Aug 1997 06:07:06 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Bottom half bug X-Lost: In case of doubt, make it sound convincing Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 421 Lines: 11 > I finally tracked the problem with -s locking up the machine down. > It's a missing restore_flags() in the newport driver that makes the > keyboard driver bottom half go bobo. Also we were missing irq_enter/ > irq_leave in the Indy interrupt handler. The patch, well, it's in my > suit case. Have fun with your crashing boxes :-) Thanks for the pointers. They are fixed in my tree now :-). Cheers, Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 11:25:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA118280; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA21938 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:23:57 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA21884 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:23:51 -0700 Received: from pingwin.icm.edu.pl (pingwin.icm.edu.pl [148.81.209.13]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA22057 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:23:02 -0700 env-from (jwr@pingwin.icm.edu.pl) Received: by pingwin.icm.edu.pl id <173720-17317>; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:22:35 +0200 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Precompiled kernel available ? X-Operating-System: Linux 2.0.30 #1 Fri Apr 11 18:34:11 EDT 1997 X-No-Archive: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jan Rychter Date: 12 Aug 1997 20:22:25 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.64/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1751 Lines: 42 I'm having trouble cross-compiling the linux-970723 test release. Apart from a few minor nits (make depend problem, etc.), this got me stopped: mips-linuxgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/jwr/linux-970723/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r8000 -mips2 -pipe -c int-handler.S -o int-handler.o int-handler.S: Assembler messages: int-handler.S:64: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:70: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:73: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:172: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:250: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:270: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:271: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored int-handler.S:294: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored make[1]: *** [int-handler.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jwr/linux-970723/arch/mips/jazz' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 So, any hope for a ready-to-run-barely-bootable-but-binary thing on ftp somewhere ? I was kinda expecting this from mr. David "SPARC precompiled kernels for people" Miller :-) thanks, --J. PS: I've set up a mirror on ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/sgi/ (mirrors ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/ nightly) BTW, isn't this a typo ? --- sni.h-original Sat Jun 14 19:38:41 1997 +++ sni.h Sat Jun 14 19:38:45 1997 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ /* * ASIC PCI registers for little endian configuration. */ -#ifndef __MIPSEL__ +#ifdef __MIPSEL__ #error "Fix me for big endian" #endif #define PCIMT_UCONF 0xbfff0000 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 11:42:08 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA118754; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA28099 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:41:41 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA28080 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:41:38 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA00908 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:41:37 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA12605; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:36:37 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708121836.OAA12605@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Precompiled kernel available ? In-Reply-To: from Jan Rychter at "Aug 12, 97 08:22:25 pm" To: jwr@icm.edu.pl (Jan Rychter) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1969 Lines: 50 Thus spake Jan Rychter: > int-handler.S: Assembler messages: > int-handler.S:64: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:70: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:73: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:172: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:250: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:270: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:271: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > int-handler.S:294: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored Are you using the Intel crosstools from the crossdev directory? You'll need newer ones, we think, and I'm going to build a new tarball shortly. (Tonight?) > So, any hope for a ready-to-run-barely-bootable-but-binary thing on ftp > somewhere ? I was kinda expecting this from mr. David "SPARC precompiled > kernels for people" Miller :-) When I get my crosstools working again, I'll build something to put up. (I can't test it, unfortunately, but hey...) > BTW, isn't this a typo ? > > --- sni.h-original Sat Jun 14 19:38:41 1997 > +++ sni.h Sat Jun 14 19:38:45 1997 > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ > /* > * ASIC PCI registers for little endian configuration. > */ > -#ifndef __MIPSEL__ > +#ifdef __MIPSEL__ > #error "Fix me for big endian" > #endif > #define PCIMT_UCONF 0xbfff0000 Don't think so. If it's not little-endian (#ifndef __MIPSEL__), then it's big-endian and needs to be fixed. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect and Herder of Bits #> #> "Yoda say, `Just slap a little public key crypto into it' does not #> a secure system make." -- Marcus J. Ranum (mjr@clark.net) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 12:20:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA119887; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA13090 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:19:22 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA12908 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:18:36 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA15902 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:18:33 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA21518; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:17:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Mike Shaver cc: Jan Rychter , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Precompiled kernel available ? In-Reply-To: <199708121836.OAA12605@neon.ingenia.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 995 Lines: 26 Hmmmm... my compile error today was quite entertaning. I'm crosscompiling on an PPro/Linux system: t' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/adevries/linux/include/asm/processor.h:146: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, /usr/src/adevries/linux/include/asm/processor.h:146: warning: which is probably not what you want. mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/adevries/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c -o indy_int.o indy_int.c mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/adevries/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c -o system.o system.c system.c:17: #error "... You're fearless, aren't you?" make[1]: *** [system.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/adevries/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 Heh. I don't think anyone's called me fearless before. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 13:07:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA120439; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA00286 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:06:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA00257 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:06:25 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA07414 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:06:15 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA01791; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:05:45 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708122005.WAA01791@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA25467; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:05:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Precompiled kernel available ? To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, jwr@icm.edu.pl, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Aug 12, 97 03:17:40 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 496 Lines: 13 > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic > -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c -o system.o system.c > system.c:17: #error "... You're fearless, aren't you?" > make[1]: *** [system.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/adevries/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > Heh. I don't think anyone's called me fearless before. That's a shopstopper that I added on Ariel's request. I don't think we need it anymore. Ariel? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 12 13:23:27 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA121630; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA06473 for linux-list; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:21:58 -0700 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA06449; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:21:55 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA23445; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:21:54 -0700 From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199708122021.NAA23445@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Precompiled kernel available ? To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199708122005.WAA01791@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Aug 12, 97 10:05:41 pm Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 782 Lines: 25 : :> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic :> -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c -o system.o system.c :> system.c:17: #error "... You're fearless, aren't you?" :> make[1]: *** [system.o] Error 1 :> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/adevries/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel' :> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 :> :> Heh. I don't think anyone's called me fearless before. : :That's a shopstopper that I added on Ariel's request. I don't think we :need it anymore. Ariel? : : Ralf : Ah the early days when a build would likely not even run since you didn't yet have a test machine over there... Sure, if you think it is not needed (and people can actually build something that would run on an Indy) then by all means delete it. ;-) -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 13 13:23:26 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA16449; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA16708 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:02 -0700 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA16700 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:00 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA27369 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:22:59 -0700 From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199708132022.NAA27369@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: linus accessible from within SGI To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 713 Lines: 19 Good news: Looks like the routing problem that prevented many outside .engr to access linus is now fixed. guest@sgigate 3% traceroute linus.linux.sgi.com traceroute to linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 purgatory.SGI.COM (204.94.209.2) 2 ms 5 ms 3 ms 2 forbidden (204.94.211.38) 4 ms 14 ms 7 ms 3 paloalto-cr6.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.57) 90 ms 105 ms 63 ms 4 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.148) 684 ms 113 ms 75 ms 5 paloalto-cr34.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.109) 11 ms 15 ms 22 ms 6 sgi.bbnplanet.net (131.119.16.6) 27 ms 16 ms 24 ms 7 linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197) 16 ms 18 ms 18 ms Roundabout, but working. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 13 13:45:08 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA17546; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA23529 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:44:43 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA23511 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:44:40 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id QAA19531; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:44:34 -0400 Message-ID: <33F21CB2.7464B074@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:44:34 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: SGI/Linux mailing list , comm-tech@rock.csd.sgi.com Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI References: <199708132022.NAA27369@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1862 Lines: 50 Ariel Faigon wrote: > > Good news: > > Looks like the routing problem that prevented many outside .engr > to access linus is now fixed. > > guest@sgigate 3% traceroute linus.linux.sgi.com > traceroute to linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 purgatory.SGI.COM (204.94.209.2) 2 ms 5 ms 3 ms > 2 forbidden (204.94.211.38) 4 ms 14 ms 7 ms > 3 paloalto-cr6.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.57) 90 ms 105 ms 63 ms > 4 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.148) 684 ms 113 ms 75 ms > 5 paloalto-cr34.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.109) 11 ms 15 ms 22 ms > 6 sgi.bbnplanet.net (131.119.16.6) 27 ms 16 ms 24 ms > 7 linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197) 16 ms 18 ms 18 ms > > Roundabout, but working. > > -- > Peace, Ariel Ive been able to rftp to it, and Ive now surf'ed to it but Im still having a hard time getting mirror to work to it. Has anyone been able to get "mirror" work via socks through our firewall? I would like to mirror linus.linux on an internal SGI, linux.detroit, which is currntly up and running. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 13 15:10:06 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA59820; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA23089 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:44 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA23083 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:42 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.qms.com (gatekeeper.qms.com [161.33.3.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id PAA06378 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:39 -0700 env-from (marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com) Received: from sun470.rd.qms.com (sun470.qms.com) by gatekeeper.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02346; Wed, 13 Aug 97 17:09:34 CDT Received: from speedy.rd.qms.com by sun470.rd.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23850; Wed, 13 Aug 97 17:09:32 CDT Received: by speedy.rd.qms.com (8.8.2) id RAA31518; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:09:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:09:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199708132209.RAA31518@speedy.rd.qms.com> From: Mark Salter To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: clock skew and ethernet timeouts Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2149 Lines: 54 I've been taking a look at the problem with frequent ethernet transmit timeouts. In addition to the timeouts, I've also seen an occasional duplicate packet being sent in response to pings coming from another machine. I'm debugging somewhat in the dark because I don't have documentation on the indy's DMA controller although the sgihpc.h file has been helpful. I also noticed that the linux time of day clock falls behind real time whenever these timeouts occur. I decided to take a look at this side of the problem and discovered that interrupts are being turned off for extended periods of time. I modified the timer interrupt handler to print a message if it detects a missed system tick. Sure enough, every ethernet timeout is accompanied by a message coming from the timer interrupt. The message indicates that the timer interrupt was held off for as much as 45ms! Here's the change I made to indy_timer_interrupt() in indy_timers.c: /* Ack timer and compute new compare. */ #if 0 r4k_cur = (read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT) + r4k_offset); #else count = read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT); if ((count - r4k_cur) >= r4k_offset) { printk("missed heartbeat: r4k_cur[0x%x] count[0x%x]\n", r4k_cur, count); r4k_cur = count + r4k_offset; } else r4k_cur += r4k_offset; #endif The original code which calculates the next value for the CP0_COMPARE register introduces skew by basing it on the current value of the CP0_COUNT register rather than the previous CP0_COMPARE value. But as it turns out, that little bit of skew is preferable to the large skew that would result whenever the timer interrupt is held off too long. Anyway, I'm going to be away from the office until 19 August, so I'll pick it up then unless someone else finds it first. It seems likely that the enet timeouts are the result of interrupts being turned off too long, but if that's not the case, can someone point me to some documentation for the indy's dma controller? I have some suspicions of race conditions when setting up new DMA buffers, but I'd like to have a document before I try various fixes. -- Mark Salter marks@sun470.rd.qms.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 13 16:45:23 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA66669; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA24958 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:44:45 -0700 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA24940 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:44:40 -0700 Received: from sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) for id LAA09136; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:44:25 +1200 Message-ID: <33F246E3.701B6269@sgi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:44:35 +1200 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.4 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Modification dates on web page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 777 Lines: 17 Now that I can get to www.linux.sgi.com (Thanks Ariel) I have noticed that the last modified dates on the web page are in Spanish (I think). I realise that Spanish is spoken by a substantial portion of the world population, but I think it's probably not good practise to have mixed language on the one web page, especially when it is three letter abbreviations....sort of looks like a typo to many people! If no one has any violent objections I will change the enumerated list in /src/web/status-update to English abbreviations. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 56791 Level 5, Walsh Wrightson Tower, Ph: +64-4-802 1455 94-96 Dixon St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-802 1459 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 13 22:19:23 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA90859; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA25432 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:17:56 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA25426 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:17:53 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA22129 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:17:52 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA19695; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:15:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199708140515.AAA19695@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: alambie@sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <33F246E3.701B6269@sgi.com> (message from Alistair Lambie on Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:44:35 +1200) Subject: Re: Modification dates on web page X-Home: is where the cat is Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 166 Lines: 7 > If no one has any violent objections I will change the enumerated list > in /src/web/status-update to English abbreviations. Please, do so. My mistake. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 06:16:10 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA188564; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA13967 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 06:15:39 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA13950 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 06:15:36 -0700 Received: from dormammu.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id JAA26962; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:15:32 -0400 Received: (from mjo@localhost) by dormammu.detroit.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA20926; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:15:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199708141315.JAA20926@dormammu.detroit.sgi.com> Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, comm-tech@rock.csd.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <33F21CB2.7464B074@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Aug 13, 97 04:44:34 pm From: mjo@sgi.com (Michael O'Connor) X-Organization: Silicon Graphics/Cray Research Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 747 Lines: 17 |Has anyone been able to get "mirror" work via socks through our |firewall? By 'mirror', I take it you mean the perl mirror program. :) The more general question is: How do you get perl TCP/IP programs to work over SOCKS? It appears that Simon Cooper, sc@sgi.com, is working on a perl module to do that. Suggest you talk with him, or use something else to mirror -- some of the nouveau FTP clients do this, and could probably be easily SOCKSified. -- Michael J. O'Connor | Phone: +1 (248) 848-4481 | "Do, or do not. 39001 W. 12 Mile Rd | Fax: +1 (248) 848-5600 | There is no try." Farmington Hills, MI | Internet: mjo@sgi.com | 48331-2903 DMR-225 | http://reality.sgi.com/mjo/ | -Yoda From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 08:38:58 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA03248; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA11040 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:38:43 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA11028 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:38:39 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id LAA28757; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:38:30 -0400 Message-ID: <33F32676.F5780242@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:38:30 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wolfgang Szoecs CC: SGI/Linux mailing list , comm-tech@rock.csd.sgi.com Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI References: <199708132022.NAA27369@oz.engr.sgi.com> <33F21CB2.7464B074@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> <9708141731.ZM8013@wolfi.munich.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1954 Lines: 53 Wolfgang Szoecs wrote: > > Hi, > > ...that's not true. > even today i got routed from the office in Munich to nirvana: > > $ /usr/etc/traceroute linus.linux.sgi.com > traceroute to linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197), 30 hops max, 40 byte > packets > 1 gate-wanmunich.munich.sgi.com (144.253.193.1) 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms > 2 169.238.216.2 (169.238.216.2) 267 ms 286 ms 275 ms > 3 b20wanring.corp.sgi.com (155.11.108.2) 265 ms 266 ms 266 ms > 4 b1wanring.corp.sgi.com (155.11.108.1) 263 ms (ttl=253!) 264 ms (ttl=253!) > 268 ms (ttl=253!) > 5 b1dco-cisco1-141.corp.sgi.com (150.166.141.40) 287 ms (ttl=252!) 268 ms > (ttl=252!) 266 ms (ttl=252!) > 6 gate2-dumpty.corp.sgi.com (150.166.100.61) 336 ms (ttl=251!) 272 ms > (ttl=251!) 262 ms (ttl=251!) > 7 gate2-dumpty.corp.sgi.com (150.166.100.61) 265 ms (ttl=251!) !H 280 ms > (ttl=251!) !H 292 ms (ttl=251!) !H > > That's it. > > BTW, i'm searching for a kernel image for booting a linux-NFS-root. > Does anybody have one, and could give me that ? > (a root-fs i already have) > > Regards Wolfgang You can't traceroute to it. Its outside the firewall. rftp or ssh to it works. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 10:28:06 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA06486; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA17097 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:27:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA16837 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:26:44 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA16700 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:26:43 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA05220; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:21:27 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708141721.NAA05220@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI In-Reply-To: <9708141731.ZM8013@wolfi.munich.sgi.com> from Wolfgang Szoecs at "Aug 14, 97 05:31:49 pm" To: wolfi@wolfi.munich.sgi.com (Wolfgang Szoecs) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 887 Lines: 21 Thus spake Wolfgang Szoecs: > BTW, i'm searching for a kernel image for booting a linux-NFS-root. > Does anybody have one, and could give me that ? > (a root-fs i already have) Oh yeah, I forgot to tell the list about this: Miguel gave me his kernel, since I couldn't build one with either my tools or the ones on linus, and I put it up for Jan at ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/testing/vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz (You'll need to gunzip it for use.) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Resident Linux bigot and kernel hacker. (OOPS!) #> `If you get bitten by a bug, tough luck...the one thing I won't do #> is feel sorry for you. In fact, I might ask you to do it all over #> again, just to get more information. I'm a heartless bastard.' #> -- Linus Torvalds (on development kernels) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 10:37:27 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA06748; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA21189 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:36:59 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21169 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:36:56 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA20317 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:36:54 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA27855; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:36:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Mike Shaver cc: Wolfgang Szoecs , Linux/SGI list Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI In-Reply-To: <199708141721.NAA05220@neon.ingenia.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 398 Lines: 12 On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Mike Shaver wrote: > Miguel gave me his kernel, since I couldn't build one with either my > tools or the ones on linus, and I put it up for Jan at > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/testing/vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz > (You'll need to gunzip it for use.) Thank you! I've had a seemingly endless stream of problems with cross compiling a kernel. I will try this out tonight. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 11:33:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA12517; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA11320 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:32:55 -0700 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA11308 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:32:53 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA29943; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:32:41 -0700 From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199708141832.LAA29943@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI To: mjo@sgi.com (Michael O'Connor) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: eak@detroit.sgi.com, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, comm-tech@rock.csd.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708141315.JAA20926@dormammu.detroit.sgi.com> from "Michael O'Connor" at Aug 14, 97 09:15:30 am Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3222 Lines: 129 : : :|Has anyone been able to get "mirror" work via socks through our :|firewall? : :By 'mirror', I take it you mean the perl mirror program. :) : :The more general question is: How do you get perl TCP/IP programs :to work over SOCKS? It appears that Simon Cooper, sc@sgi.com, is :working on a perl module to do that. Suggest you talk with him, or :use something else to mirror -- some of the nouveau FTP clients :do this, and could probably be easily SOCKSified. : In the case of perl it is easy to cross the firewall by simply using a proxy. i.e. you don't need to SOCSify you perl since the proxy (which is SOCKsified) does the job for you. Enclosed below is a (http) 'GET' script that uses one possible SGI proxy when given the -e option. The method uses is the name of the script so you may symlink it to 'HEAD' for example. -- Peace, Ariel #!/usr/bin/perl5 # # perl5+LWP script to fetch a URL # # Usage: # Get [-e] [-t] # # Author: # ariel@sgi.com, 1996 # use HTTP::Status; use LWP::UserAgent; use LWP::Protocol; { # # Override these methods. Their default behavior is bad for us. # package LWP::Protocol; sub use_alarm { shift->_elem('use_alarm', 0); } package LWP::UserAgent; sub redirect_ok { 0; } } require 'getopts.pl'; &Getopts('t:m:e'); $0 =~ s,.*/,,; unless ($ARGV[0]) { die "Usage: $0 [-e -tTIMEOUT -mMETHOD] URL -e Use a proxy for [e]xternal accesses default METHOD is program name default TIMEOUT is 7 sec for internal, 14 for external\n"; } if ($opt_t =~ /^\d+$/) { $get_timeout = $opt_t; } else { $get_timeout = 7; $get_timeout *= 2 if ($opt_e); } ($method = $opt_m) || ($method = $0); $method =~ tr,a-z,A-Z,; # print "get started\n"; &get($method, $ARGV[0], $get_timeout); # get($method, $from_url, $timeout) # Fetches $url into a $get_contents. Gives up after $timeout sec. # returns the HTTP get code (200 for OK etc.) # sub get { my($method, $url, $timeout) = @_; my ($ua, $request, $response); my ($key, $get_rc, $lf); $ua = new LWP::UserAgent; $ua->use_alarm(1); $ua->timeout($timeout); $ua->agent("Get-perl5/v1.0"); if ($opt_e) { $ua->proxy([ 'http' ], 'http://www-dms.esd.sgi.com:8080/'); } if ($url =~ m,^/,) { $url = 'localhost' . $url; } unless ($url =~ /^[a-z]+:/) { $url = 'http://' . $url; } $get_content = ''; $Content_length = ''; $request = new HTTP::Request($method, $url); # $request->push_header('If-Modified-Since' => 'Thu, 01-Jan-70 00:00:00 GMT'); print STDERR $method, ' ', $url, ': '; $response = $ua->request($request); $get_rc = $response->code; $get_content = $response->content if $response->is_success; $error_msg = status_message($get_rc); if ($get_rc == 200) { # 200: OK $Content_length = $response->header('Content-length'); } # Some servers do not send the content length... if ($Content_length eq '' && $get_content) { $Content_length = length($get_content); } print STDERR $error_msg, ($Content_length ? " ($Content_length)" : ''), "\n"; print STDERR $response->headers_as_string; print $get_content; $get_rc; } __END__ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 16:18:18 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA16377; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA11276 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:16:54 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA11237 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:16:41 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA00021 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:16:17 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA06429; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:15:42 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708142315.BAA06429@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id BAA02579; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:15:22 +0200 Subject: Re: clock skew and ethernet timeouts To: marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com (Mark Salter) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:15:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708132209.RAA31518@speedy.rd.qms.com> from "Mark Salter" at Aug 13, 97 05:09:32 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1604 Lines: 30 > I also noticed that the linux time of day clock falls behind > real time whenever these timeouts occur. I decided to take a > look at this side of the problem and discovered that interrupts > are being turned off for extended periods of time. I modified > the timer interrupt handler to print a message if it detects > a missed system tick. Sure enough, every ethernet timeout is > accompanied by a message coming from the timer interrupt. The > message indicates that the timer interrupt was held off for > as much as 45ms! I've never seen these problems in my configurations. However I've fixed a couple of interrupt realted things which I'll commit into the CVS as soon as I'm in Mountain View. One of these, a console bug might actually have been the cause of the extreme long interrupt disable time you have seen. There are more thing which need to be reworked with resprect to interrupts. For example cache flushing turns interrupts off for sometimes several thousand cycles even though this is only required for certain buggy CPUs like the R4600 v1.x. And even there are better workarounds. General rule about cli(): Think about it if you really need it. Then think again about it. If you're finished wnd still think cli() might be a good solution, then think once again about it ... For me the "most wanted - fix on sight" bug is currently a memory corruption problem. Other than that I was able to compile >92mb RPM binaries several times in a row. It's just that that memory corruption problem corrupts disk data structures in memory which might be written back later ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 08:33:06 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA03104; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA09359 for linux-list; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:32:05 -0700 Received: from wolfi (wolfi.munich.sgi.com [144.253.193.137]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA09334 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:32:00 -0700 Received: by wolfi (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/911001.SGI) id RAA08015; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:31:50 +0200 From: "Wolfgang Szoecs" Message-Id: <9708141731.ZM8013@wolfi.munich.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:31:49 -0600 In-Reply-To: Eric Kimminau "Re: linus accessible from within SGI" (Aug 13, 4:44pm) References: <199708132022.NAA27369@oz.engr.sgi.com> <33F21CB2.7464B074@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> X-Face: #LcKOH(|K{8#|+m.SSjuj71\l:E^{2CLF!F)@?@6@?mZ>v6P"_ZI6<#a~5Di% 9pd"U4Ul3mE33osz@b^@kn;y@1r-)cE6mFo?\wtp$kF* X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI Cc: comm-tech@rock.csd.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1543 Lines: 37 Hi, ...that's not true. even today i got routed from the office in Munich to nirvana: $ /usr/etc/traceroute linus.linux.sgi.com traceroute to linus.linux.sgi.com (192.48.153.197), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 gate-wanmunich.munich.sgi.com (144.253.193.1) 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 169.238.216.2 (169.238.216.2) 267 ms 286 ms 275 ms 3 b20wanring.corp.sgi.com (155.11.108.2) 265 ms 266 ms 266 ms 4 b1wanring.corp.sgi.com (155.11.108.1) 263 ms (ttl=253!) 264 ms (ttl=253!) 268 ms (ttl=253!) 5 b1dco-cisco1-141.corp.sgi.com (150.166.141.40) 287 ms (ttl=252!) 268 ms (ttl=252!) 266 ms (ttl=252!) 6 gate2-dumpty.corp.sgi.com (150.166.100.61) 336 ms (ttl=251!) 272 ms (ttl=251!) 262 ms (ttl=251!) 7 gate2-dumpty.corp.sgi.com (150.166.100.61) 265 ms (ttl=251!) !H 280 ms (ttl=251!) !H 292 ms (ttl=251!) !H That's it. BTW, i'm searching for a kernel image for booting a linux-NFS-root. Does anybody have one, and could give me that ? (a root-fs i already have) Regards Wolfgang -- \------------------------------------------------\ _ ______ | \ Wolfgang Szoecs Software Support Engineer \ /SGI\____-=0`/|0`/__| \ Silicon Graphics GmbH, Munich / Germany \____\Munich / | / ) / SMTP: wolfi@munich.sgi.com / `/-==_____/__|/__=-| / Phone: 0130/112550 | Fax: 089/46108 190 / * \ | | /------------------------------------------------/ (o) Redistribution of this message via the Microsoft Network is prohibited From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 05:45:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA44472; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 05:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA05718 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 05:45:24 -0700 Received: from butterfly.johannesburg.sgi.com (butterfly.johannesburg.sgi.com [134.14.196.122]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA05704 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 05:45:19 -0700 Received: from johannesburg.sgi.com by butterfly.johannesburg.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id FAA15671; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 05:46:51 -0700 Message-ID: <33F44FBA.60321898@johannesburg.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:46:51 +0300 From: "David S. de Beer" Reply-To: daviddb@johannesburg.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com CC: Ariel Faigon Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI References: <199708141832.LAA29943@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 741 Lines: 36 Ariel Faigon wrote: > In the case of perl it is easy to cross the firewall by simply > using a proxy. i.e. you don't need to SOCSify you perl since > the proxy (which is SOCKsified) does the job for you. > > Enclosed below is a (http) 'GET' script that uses one possible > SGI proxy when given the -e option. The method uses is the name > of the script so you may symlink it to 'HEAD' for example. > > -- > Peace, Ariel > > Ariel, Wow, great :) Do you perhaps have a perl script for ftp as well? Also, I've looked around for a xftp client that works with socks and can also copy recursive directories. Is there something like this available? Thank you kindly. David -- , , { \w/ } `>!<` (/^\) ' ' From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 06:15:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA45555; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA09980 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:14:16 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA09965 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:14:10 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id JAA10328; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:13:57 -0400 Message-ID: <33F45614.3939AFBA@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:13:56 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Local disk boot HOWTO References: <199708142315.BAA06429@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 893 Lines: 24 Has anyone completed a HOWTO for booting from a second local disk yet? Thanks! Eric. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 06:17:56 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA45613; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA10475 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:17:36 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA10465 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:17:33 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id JAA10373; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <33F456E5.D83E32F8@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:17:25 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daviddb@johannesburg.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, Ariel Faigon Subject: Re: linus accessible from within SGI References: <199708141832.LAA29943@oz.engr.sgi.com> <33F44FBA.60321898@johannesburg.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1701 Lines: 52 David S. de Beer wrote: > > Ariel Faigon wrote: > > > In the case of perl it is easy to cross the firewall by simply > > using a proxy. i.e. you don't need to SOCSify you perl since > > the proxy (which is SOCKsified) does the job for you. > > > > Enclosed below is a (http) 'GET' script that uses one possible > > SGI proxy when given the -e option. The method uses is the name > > of the script so you may symlink it to 'HEAD' for example. > > > > -- > > Peace, Ariel > > > > > > Ariel, > > Wow, great :) Do you perhaps have a perl script for ftp as well? > > Also, I've looked around for a xftp client that works with socks and can also copy > recursive directories. Is there something like this available? > > Thank you kindly. > > David ncftp will do this David. You need the latest version though. The dist on dist.engr:/sgi/hacks is NOT up to date and has problems going through a SOCKS proxy. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 06:30:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA45343; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA11909 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:28:52 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA11900 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:28:46 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA14084 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:28:45 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA19960; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:22:40 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708151322.JAA19960@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO In-Reply-To: <33F45614.3939AFBA@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from Eric Kimminau at "Aug 15, 97 09:13:56 am" To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 717 Lines: 20 Thus spake Eric Kimminau: > Has anyone completed a HOWTO for booting from a second local disk yet? Do you have a root-mountable filesystem on the second disk? If so: - put vmlinux on the IRIX / - boot into sash boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 (This is from memory, but it was pretty simple. Once Miguel told me how simple it was, of course. =) ) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- Head geek -- System exorcist #> #> "Have you considered a life? I hear they're quite affordable #> these days." --- shields@tembel.org From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 06:44:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA46273; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA14108 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:42:53 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA14094 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:42:50 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA16525 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:42:49 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA20136; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:37:25 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708151337.JAA20136@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO In-Reply-To: <33F45BBC.84D44D8F@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from Eric Kimminau at "Aug 15, 97 09:38:04 am" To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 823 Lines: 24 Thus spake Eric Kimminau: > OK, this IS simple enough. Does anyone have a tar of a functional Linux > installation I can snag and uncompress on my second disk? ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/root-be-0.00.cpio.gz should work fine. (20MB, BTW) > My assumption would be I would then just modify > /dev/sdb1/etc/hosts,hostname, etc. for networking and then reboot into > Linux? Something like that. You can edit them after you reboot, though. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> UNIX medicine man -- dark magick, cheap! #> #> When the going gets tough, the tough give cryptic error messages. #> "We believe in rough consensus and running code." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 06:38:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA46133; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA13469 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:38:20 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA13455 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 06:38:10 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id JAA10572; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: <33F45BBC.84D44D8F@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:38:04 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Shaver CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO References: <199708151322.JAA19960@neon.ingenia.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1547 Lines: 45 Mike Shaver wrote: > > Thus spake Eric Kimminau: > > Has anyone completed a HOWTO for booting from a second local disk yet? > > Do you have a root-mountable filesystem on the second disk? > If so: > - put vmlinux on the IRIX / > - boot into sash > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 > > (This is from memory, but it was pretty simple. Once Miguel told me > how simple it was, of course. =) ) > > Mike OK, this IS simple enough. Does anyone have a tar of a functional Linux installation I can snag and uncompress on my second disk? My assumption would be I would then just modify /dev/sdb1/etc/hosts,hostname, etc. for networking and then reboot into Linux? If someone can throw up a tar somewhere Ill come get it and linux.detroit will be online today. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 08:26:55 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA48799; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA02888 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:26:24 -0700 Received: from motown.detroit.sgi.com (motown.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.3]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA02880; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:26:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by motown.detroit.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id LAA12963; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:26:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Welling Reply-To: Jeremy Welling To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Booting Linux from second disk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2836 Lines: 79 OK, we have /vmlinux: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1137360 Aug 15 10:54 vmlinux which came from: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz We have extracted the root cpio and this is what the root dir of the second disk looks like: linux 8# cd /d linux 9# ls -la total 212785 drwxr-xr-x 18 root sys 4096 Aug 15 10:50 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root sys 512 Aug 15 11:01 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 1080 Aug 15 10:29 CONTENTS drwxr-xr-x 2 root sys 4096 Aug 15 10:39 bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 4480163 Aug 15 10:29 binutils-2.7.tar.gz drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 cdrom drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 12288 Aug 15 10:39 dev drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 120 Aug 15 10:52 etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 7089723 Aug 15 10:29 gcc-2.7.2.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 5237187 Aug 15 10:29 glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 3937333 Aug 15 10:29 glibc-2.0.4.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 76738 Aug 15 10:29 glibc-linuxthreads-2.0.4.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 519573 Aug 15 10:29 glibc-localedata-2.0.4.tar.gz drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 home drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 4096 Aug 15 10:41 lib drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 libexec drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 pub -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 86418944 Aug 15 10:30 root-0.00.cpio drwxr-xr-x 2 root sys 4096 Aug 15 10:33 rpms drwxr-xr-x 2 root sys 118 Aug 15 10:39 sbin drwxrwxrwt 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 tmp drwxr-xr-x 11 root user 4096 Aug 15 10:41 usr drwxr-xr-x 2 root user 9 Aug 15 10:41 var -rw-r--r-- 1 root guest 1137360 Aug 15 10:49 vmlinux FX says this about the drive: ...controller test...OK Scsi drive type == SGI IBM DORS-32160 WA6A ----- partitions----- part type cyls blocks Megabytes (base+size) 7: xfs 5 + 6696 3125 + 4185000 2 + 2043 8: volhdr 0 + 5 0 + 3125 0 + 2 10: volume 0 + 6715 0 + 4196875 0 + 2049 15: xfslog 6701 + 14 4188125 + 8750 2045 + 4 capacity is 4197405 blocks We have tried booting miniroot, running command monitor then running sash and we have tried: boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 which just fails and boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb7 which boots IRIX HELP! :) Any ideas? Thanks! Eric and Jeremy P.S. Anyone internal, for now, root password is fairly obvious. linux From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 09:59:11 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA51543; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA26581 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:58:16 -0700 Received: from xtp.engr.sgi.com (xtp.engr.sgi.com [150.166.75.34]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA26577 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:58:13 -0700 Received: by xtp.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id JAA01052; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:58:08 -0700 From: "Greg Chesson" Message-Id: <9708150958.ZM1050@xtp.engr.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:58:08 -0700 In-Reply-To: Eric Kimminau "Re: Local disk boot HOWTO" (Aug 15, 9:38am) References: <199708151322.JAA19960@neon.ingenia.ca> <33F45BBC.84D44D8F@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: eak@detroit.sgi.com, Mike Shaver Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 536 Lines: 20 On Aug 15, 9:38am, Eric Kimminau wrote: > Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO > > Do you have a root-mountable filesystem on the second disk? > > If so: > > - put vmlinux on the IRIX / > > - boot into sash > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 > > seems to me you'd have to also patch vmlinux to get the device ID correct for the root disk. On Irix you'd have to move /dev/root. I'm not sure what the equivalent might be on linux.... but I'd like to know what the recipe is. I too would like to bring linux up on a secondary disk. g From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 10:15:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA52018; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA03139 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:07 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA03104; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:05 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA11927; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:03 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA22391; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:09:36 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708151709.NAA22391@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO In-Reply-To: <9708150958.ZM1050@xtp.engr.sgi.com> from Greg Chesson at "Aug 15, 97 09:58:08 am" To: greg@xtp.engr.sgi.com (Greg Chesson) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: eak@detroit.sgi.com, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 708 Lines: 19 Thus spake Greg Chesson: > > > - put vmlinux on the IRIX / > > > - boot into sash > > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 > > seems to me you'd have to also patch vmlinux to get the device ID > correct for the root disk. The root= parameter tells it where its root device is. (It magically parses the [hs]d[ab][0-8] part into major/minor.) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Information Warfare Division #> Chief Tactical and Strategic Officer "Saepe fidelis" #> #> "I like your game, but we have to change the rules." -- Anon #> From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 10:15:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA52164; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA03099 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:04 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA03092; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:15:01 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA11879; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:14:56 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA18835; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:14:54 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708151714.TAA18835@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA05773; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:14:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk To: jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:14:51 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Jeremy Welling" at Aug 15, 97 11:26:18 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 447 Lines: 18 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1137360 Aug 15 10:54 vmlinux > > which came from: > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz > > We have extracted the root cpio and this is what the root dir of the > second disk looks like: > linux 8# cd /d > linux 9# ls -la > total 212785 [...] I you can do this under IRIX the problem is very easy to find - you're using XFS which Linux can't read. Stupid enough IRIX can't read ext2fs. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 10:18:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA52395; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04419 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:18:17 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA04388; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:18:14 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA12990; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:18:04 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA19277; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:17:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708151717.TAA19277@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA05781; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:17:57 +0200 Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO To: greg@xtp.engr.sgi.com (Greg Chesson) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:17:56 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: eak@detroit.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9708150958.ZM1050@xtp.engr.sgi.com> from "Greg Chesson" at Aug 15, 97 09:58:08 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 876 Lines: 25 > > On Aug 15, 9:38am, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO > > > > Do you have a root-mountable filesystem on the second disk? > > > If so: > > > - put vmlinux on the IRIX / > > > - boot into sash > > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 The receipe is correct. > seems to me you'd have to also patch vmlinux to get the device ID > correct for the root disk. On Irix you'd have to move /dev/root. > I'm not sure what the equivalent might be on linux.... but I'd like > to know what the recipe is. I too would like to bring linux up on > a secondary disk. My suggestion is to attack the ext2fs disk to a Linux/i386 machine, build the root filesystem etc. on it, then back on the Indy use it for booting. Linux is so smart that it handles the MSDOG partitions on the disk created that way correctly and I store my kernel on the IRIX / anyway. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 11:49:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA74686; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA07020 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:48:44 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA07003 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:48:42 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA15640 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:48:37 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29864; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:45:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:45:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199708151845.NAA29864@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: eak@detroit.sgi.com CC: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <33F45614.3939AFBA@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> (message from Eric Kimminau on Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:13:56 -0400) Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO X-Info: When in doubt, blame the network Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 231 Lines: 12 > Has anyone completed a HOWTO for booting from a second local disk yet? > > Thanks! No, but if you put your Linux kernel on EFS or XFS, you just need to go to the sash boot prompt and from there type: boot /vmlinux Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 11:53:23 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA78833; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA08645 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:53:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA08635; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:53:01 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA17588; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:52:53 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29883; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:50:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:50:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199708151850.NAA29883@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Jeremy Welling on Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:26:18 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk X-Unix: is friendly, it is just selective about who its friends are. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 950 Lines: 34 > We have tried booting miniroot, running command monitor then running sash > and we have tried: > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 which just fails > > and > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb7 which boots IRIX Ok, it is not that simple. The problem is that the Linux kernel does not have a module for accessing EFS, so you have to do this in two steps: 1. Un cpio the root-*.cpio.gz on a machine on the network and tell Linux to use that as its root file system: boot /vmlinux nfsroot=132.248.29.5:/tftpboot/the-root-dir Replace 132.248.29.5 for the IP address of your NFS server and /tftpboot/the-root-dir for the exported directory in your NFS server that holds that stuff. 2. Prepare to get rid of EFS on your disk. Run the mke2fs command on the proper device to create the Linux ext2 file system. 3. Un-cpio the file again, this time on your root disk. 4. umount the disk, and reset the machine. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 11:54:57 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA80895; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA09616 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:54:38 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA09587 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:54:35 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id OAA14860; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:54:23 -0400 Message-ID: <33F4A5DE.3EC021BE@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:54:22 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel de Icaza CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO References: <199708151845.NAA29864@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1249 Lines: 37 Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > Has anyone completed a HOWTO for booting from a second local disk yet? > > > > Thanks! > > No, but if you put your Linux kernel on EFS or XFS, you just need to > go to the sash boot prompt and from there type: > > boot /vmlinux > > Miguel. This is incorrect. It will not boot off of a second disk with everything on an XFS partition. We ar ejust about to finish the restore to an efs partition and try it that way. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 11:29:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA56417; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA00544 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:28:28 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA00523; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:28:25 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA08079; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:28:18 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA21322; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:23:26 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0wzS9I-0005FjC; Fri, 15 Aug 97 20:35 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Local disk boot HOWTO To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:35:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: greg@xtp.engr.sgi.com, eak@detroit.sgi.com, shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708151717.TAA19277@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Aug 15, 97 07:17:56 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 575 Lines: 13 > My suggestion is to attack the ext2fs disk to a Linux/i386 machine, > build the root filesystem etc. on it, then back on the Indy use it > for booting. Linux is so smart that it handles the MSDOG partitions > on the disk created that way correctly and I store my kernel on the > IRIX / anyway. Another approach is to create a linux fs the right size for your root on another ext2fs supporting host (ie linux,os/2, win95,macos ;)) and gzip the actual file system, then people can bootstrap it quite easily under irix by just gunzipping to the _right_ ;) raw device Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:17:49 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA89144; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA01083 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:17:09 -0700 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA01068 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:17:07 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA04153 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:17:06 -0700 From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199708152017.NAA04153@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: boot linux - wish To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 45 Miguel wrote: : Ok, it is not that simple. : : The problem is that the Linux kernel does not have a module for : accessing EFS, so you have to do this in two steps: : Hi, Could someone rise to the challenge of writing a utility that will install Linux on an IRIX machine? It can ask questions like: Do you want to boot Linux from a [L]ocal disk or from a [R]emote machine [l/r] ? ... And: To install Linux locally, you'll need a free partition. On what partition do you want to install Linux on [/dev/sdb7]? And give hints like: Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? And give big warnings like: Are you sure you want to destroy your IRIX /dev/sdb7 partition by running mke2fs on it [y/n]? But it should make it much easier for non-hackers to install Linux side-by-side with IRIX. This utility should give ask the user where from to take a kernel etc. but it should have good defaults like getting it from ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/ etc. Lastly: it can have two steps (before reboot and after) but it should do enough sanity checks and user confirms to make sure it does the right thing. A working utility like this is effectively a HOWTO and can be much more useful for most people. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:18:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA97759; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA01510 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:18:18 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA01489; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:18:15 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id QAA15671; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:18:08 -0400 Message-ID: <33F4B980.A17A25CD@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:18:08 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel de Icaza CC: jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk References: <199708151850.NAA29883@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2876 Lines: 82 OK: last report before I leave for the weekend. These steps given by Miguel didnt work for us. What "did" work so far is that we set up a tftp boot server on labb.detroit, got all the stuff uncompressed on it, booted miniroot on linux.detroit, setenv diskless 1 then did the following: boot -f bootp()labb.detroit:/tftpboot/linux/vmlinux nfsaddrs=169.238.129.18,169.238.129.5 labb (tftpboot server=169.238.129.5, linux=169.238.129.18) It boots but as soon as it sees the ethernet driver we get this: eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e6:29 (which is our correct MAC addr)_ Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == 880cbc5c, ra == 880cbc3c The keyboard is still active but the machine is hung. You cannot ping linux's IP address either. Looks like we have a problem with this kernel and our hardware but I couldn't tell you anything more than that. Anyone have any ideas for Monday morning? See ya! Eric. Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > We have tried booting miniroot, running command monitor then running sash > > and we have tried: > > > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 which just fails > > > > and > > > > boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb7 which boots IRIX > > Ok, it is not that simple. > > The problem is that the Linux kernel does not have a module for > accessing EFS, so you have to do this in two steps: > > 1. Un cpio the root-*.cpio.gz on a machine on the network > and tell Linux to use that as its root file system: > > boot /vmlinux nfsroot=132.248.29.5:/tftpboot/the-root-dir > > Replace 132.248.29.5 for the IP address of your NFS server > and /tftpboot/the-root-dir for the exported directory in > your NFS server that holds that stuff. > > 2. Prepare to get rid of EFS on your disk. > > Run the mke2fs command on the proper device to create > the Linux ext2 file system. > > 3. Un-cpio the file again, this time on your root disk. > > 4. umount the disk, and reset the machine. > > Miguel. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:26:51 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA98071; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA04032 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:13 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA04005 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:10 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA22770 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:09 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA24149 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:20:45 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708152020.QAA24149@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Power Series? To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:20:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 560 Lines: 13 Are the Power Series boxes of interest to me? =) I may be able to get my hands on a 3-processor fridge-sized Power Series something, and if it's a MIPS system, I just might give it a shot. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Paranoid for money. Sarcastic for kicks. #> #> "They already *KNOW* I am a whacko, Karen. #> That doesn't mean I am *WRONG*." -- mjr@clark.net From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:29:50 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA98016; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA05014 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:29:18 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA05005 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:29:16 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA23577 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:29:15 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA24180; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:23:48 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708152023.QAA24180@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152017.NAA04153@oz.engr.sgi.com> from Ariel Faigon at "Aug 15, 97 01:17:06 pm" To: ariel@sgi.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 743 Lines: 17 Thus spake Ariel Faigon: > Could someone rise to the challenge of writing a utility > that will install Linux on an IRIX machine? If no-one else has done so by the time I get my Indy, I'll give that a shot. I'll probably use the initrd stuff to put all the fdisk/mke2fs stuff on, unless I decide to give the RH install stuff a try. The latter is more forward-looking, so that's my preference. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Commando Developer - Whatever It Takes #> #> "See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like #> Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too." - Linus Torvalds From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:37:04 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA98299; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA07174 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:36:46 -0700 Received: from dragon.engr.sgi.com (dragon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.65.33]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA07123; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:36:38 -0700 Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/970502.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA03360; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) From: sr@dragon.engr.sgi.com (Steve Rikli) Message-Id: <199708152036.NAA03360@dragon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Power Series? To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708152020.QAA24149@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Aug 15, 97 04:20:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1526 Lines: 40 Mike Shaver wrote: > > Are the Power Series boxes of interest to me? =) > I may be able to get my hands on a 3-processor fridge-sized Power > Series something, and if it's a MIPS system, I just might give it a > shot. They're respectable machines, depending on the flavor/color. ;) Are you sure it's really 3p ? Most of the fridge-sized POWER Series (you might also hear them referred to as "Predators" or "4D" systems) had CPU cards which were 2p each, up to a max (AFAIK) of 8p per system. Though there was the 4D/210GTX which were sold in droves, from what I hear. In general, the 4D/XX0 nomenclature works like this: 4D/340 == 4 33MHz R3000 CPUs 4D/480 == 8 40MHz R3000 CPUs etc. You get the idea. Also in general, the fridge-sized POWER Series cards were/are compatible with the deskside POWER Series, though there were backplane differences (primarily just the # of slots available, but there were a few other subtleties). Personally, I'd *love* to see Linux running on the POWER series, since I can likely get my hands on a deskside 4D/440 pretty easily. ;-) If you need more info about the configuration of the POWER series systems/chassis let me know and I might be able to help out. cheers, sr. -- || Steve Rikli ||| The problem with life is there's no || || Systems Administrator ||| entry fee to keep out the riffraff. || || NSD, EIS Infrastructure ||| || || Silicon Graphics, Inc. ||| - Calvin || From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:39:08 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA98356; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA07913 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:38:50 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA07875 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:38:47 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA27142 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:38:45 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA21985; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:38:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Ariel Faigon cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152017.NAA04153@oz.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 31 On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Ariel Faigon wrote: > > Could someone rise to the challenge of writing a utility > that will install Linux on an IRIX machine? I don't mind rising to that challenge, but one huge obstacle is how do we get the utility to partition the Linux drive? I'm guessing the solution is to write a utility that from within Irix talks directly to the raw SCSI disk to setup the partitions. I have NO idea how to do this as I doubt the raw disk interface is anything like that in Linux. Clues accepted. Does anyone have any suggestions to this? > On what partition do you want to install Linux on [/dev/sdb7]? > > And give hints like: > Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet > should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? Er, does such a tool in fact exist? In any case, I don't mind handling the writing of such a utility so long as I get help with the two parts I'm as of yet unable to address: partitioning and setting up boot options without entering the boot monitor. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:48:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA97812; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA10989 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:47:56 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA10977; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:47:53 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA00228; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:47:50 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA22378; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:47:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Steve Rikli cc: Mike Shaver , David Kennedy , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Power Series? In-Reply-To: <199708152036.NAA03360@dragon.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 445 Lines: 14 On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Steve Rikli wrote: > > Personally, I'd *love* to see Linux running on the POWER series, > since I can likely get my hands on a deskside 4D/440 pretty > easily. ;-) > > If you need more info about the configuration of the POWER series > systems/chassis let me know and I might be able to help out. Very cool. I will get Dave Kennedy to identify the machine precisely so we know exactly what we're dealing with. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 13:58:58 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA99742; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA13839 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:58:30 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA13819 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:58:28 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA03314 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:58:27 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA24515; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:53:01 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708152053.QAA24515@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Aug 15, 97 04:38:14 pm" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 872 Lines: 24 Thus spake Alex deVries: > I don't mind rising to that challenge, but one huge obstacle is how do we > get the utility to partition the Linux drive? Oliver is working on fdisk, I believe. Last I heard, he was working on the geometry-query issue. Oliver? > > And give hints like: > > Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet > > should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? > > Er, does such a tool in fact exist? Yup. That's how I made bogomips' ext2 drive initially. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Ignore the man behind the curtain. #> #> "And then I realized that it never should have worked in the first #> place. Thus, it would not work again until rewritten." --- Anon. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 14:00:36 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA98906; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA14452 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:04 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14430; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:01 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA03667; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:00 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA24528; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:54:36 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708152054.QAA24528@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Power Series? In-Reply-To: <199708152036.NAA03360@dragon.engr.sgi.com> from Steve Rikli at "Aug 15, 97 01:36:37 pm" To: sr@dragon.engr.sgi.com (Steve Rikli) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 610 Lines: 18 Thus spake Steve Rikli: > Mike Shaver wrote: > > > > Are the Power Series boxes of interest to me? =) > > They're respectable machines, depending on the flavor/color. ;) This one is brown. Mike (I hear the mauve ones have more RAM, though) -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 14:00:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA99864; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA14587 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14540 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:08 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA03694 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:00:06 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA22808; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:59:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Mike Shaver cc: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152053.QAA24515@neon.ingenia.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 359 Lines: 13 On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Mike Shaver wrote: > Thus spake Alex deVries: > > > Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet > > > should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? > > Er, does such a tool in fact exist? > Yup. > That's how I made bogomips' ext2 drive initially. Silly me, but what's it called, and exactly where is it? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 14:19:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA101998; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA20579 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:18:25 -0700 Received: from morgaine.engr.sgi.com (morgaine.engr.sgi.com [130.62.16.64]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA20574 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:18:23 -0700 Received: (from offer@localhost) by morgaine.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA29123 for linux; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:17:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:17:52 -0700 From: offer@morgaine.engr.sgi.com (richard offer) Message-Id: <9708151417.ZM6031@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Mike Shaver "Re: Power Series?" (Aug 15, 4:54pm) References: <199708152054.QAA24528@neon.ingenia.ca> X-Signature: Automatically generated by Richards Own Mail Signer (roms) X-Home-Page: http://reality.sgi.com/offer X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@morgaine.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Power Series? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 44 * $ from shaver@neon.ingenia.ca at "15-Aug: 4:54pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /" * * * Thus spake Steve Rikli: * > Mike Shaver wrote: * > > * > > Are the Power Series boxes of interest to me? =) * > * > They're respectable machines, depending on the flavor/color. ;) The first SGI I used was a 240 VGX, really nice machine, of course it only had 8Mb of RAM... * * This one is brown. * * Mike * (I hear the mauve ones have more RAM, though) What is this, spot the Dilbert ? * * -- * #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation * #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food * #> * #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to * #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com * richard. _____________________________________________________________________ A guest signature from Jeff Drummond (jjd at cray.com) My name is Inigo Montoya. 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From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 14:49:56 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA110790; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01059 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:48:45 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01048 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:48:42 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA21210 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:48:40 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA30833; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:46:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:46:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199708152146.QAA30833@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:38:14 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: boot linux - wish X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1252 Lines: 32 > > Could someone rise to the challenge of writing a utility > > that will install Linux on an IRIX machine? > > I don't mind rising to that challenge, but one huge obstacle is how do we > get the utility to partition the Linux drive? the fx command is used to partition disks on IRIX. It took me a while to work around the user friendlyness of it, but then, I wanted to keep a part of my disk with XFS (because I just LOVE that file system) and the rest for my ext2fs. > I'm guessing the solution is to write a utility that from within Irix > talks directly to the raw SCSI disk to setup the partitions. I have NO > idea how to do this as I doubt the raw disk interface is anything like > that in Linux. Clues accepted. The only thing you need to do is access the first sector in the disk. this one holds the disk label with the current partition definitions. Oliver at .at was working on getting Linux FDISK up and running, you can probably talk with him. > > And give hints like: > > Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet > > should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? > > Er, does such a tool in fact exist? Yes. get the e2fsprogs suite, it is the only thing you need to populate a file system. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 14:50:26 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA110665; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01508 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:50:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01478 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:50:07 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA21739 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:50:06 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA30844; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:47:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:47:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199708152147.QAA30844@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca CC: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199708152023.QAA24180@neon.ingenia.ca> (message from Mike Shaver on Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:23:48 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: boot linux - wish X-Windows: Sometimes you fill a vacuum and it still sucks. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 529 Lines: 14 > If no-one else has done so by the time I get my Indy, I'll give that a shot. > I'll probably use the initrd stuff to put all the fdisk/mke2fs stuff > on, unless I decide to give the RH install stuff a try. The latter is > more forward-looking, so that's my preference. Agreed. I really preffer this way of setting up Linux, but this basically forces you to have an NFS server with the installation files somewhere accessible. Ariel's suggestion will work even if you can't get your hands on an NFS server nearby. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 15:05:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA112682; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA06786 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:04:02 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA06718 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:03:59 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA27712 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:03:58 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA25400; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:03:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Miguel de Icaza cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152147.QAA30844@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 812 Lines: 21 On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > If no-one else has done so by the time I get my Indy, I'll give that a shot. > > I'll probably use the initrd stuff to put all the fdisk/mke2fs stuff > > on, unless I decide to give the RH install stuff a try. The latter is > > more forward-looking, so that's my preference. > Agreed. I really preffer this way of setting up Linux, but this > basically forces you to have an NFS server with the installation files > somewhere accessible. > > Ariel's suggestion will work even if you can't get your hands on an > NFS server nearby. ... or a local CDROM with the appropriate directory structure, and RPMs ready to install. (Am I wrong, or are SGI distribution CD's not ISO9660? It makes it really hard to read without a CD ROM connected to my Indy). - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 15:52:36 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA116922; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA20954 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:51:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA20904; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:51:33 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA15899; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:51:22 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA28505; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:51:06 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708152251.AAA28505@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id AAA05929; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:51:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:51:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <33F4B980.A17A25CD@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Aug 15, 97 04:18:08 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 629 Lines: 19 > boot -f bootp()labb.detroit:/tftpboot/linux/vmlinux > nfsaddrs=169.238.129.18,169.238.129.5 > > labb (tftpboot server=169.238.129.5, linux=169.238.129.18) > > It boots but as soon as it sees the ethernet driver we get this: > > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e6:29 (which is our correct MAC addr)_ > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc > == 880cbc5c, ra == 880cbc3c Could you send me the disassembler output of the kernel you've booted? Use command like mips-linux-objdump -d vmlinux --start-address=0x880cbb00 --stop-address=0x880cd00 to produce the dissassembler listing. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 17:53:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA121572; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20335 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:51:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA20329 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:51:39 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA12008 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:51:38 -0700 env-from (dkennedy@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (dkennedy@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA30424; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:51:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: David Kennedy To: Mike Shaver cc: Linux/SGI list Subject: Re: Power Series? In-Reply-To: <199708152020.QAA24149@neon.ingenia.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 496 Lines: 15 On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Mike Shaver wrote: > Are the Power Series boxes of interest to me? =) > I may be able to get my hands on a 3-processor fridge-sized Power > Series something, and if it's a MIPS system, I just might give it a > shot. Oops, yes, I lied. It has _4_ processors. (It detects 3 on bootup. ie: the one it's booting with, and 3 more). I'll get more specs on it sometime next week. It's brown though. -- David Kennedy "Error loading lmouse.drv. You must reinstall Windows." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 18:12:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA126372; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA24637 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:11:46 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA24531 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:11:11 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA17697 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:11:10 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA26202; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:05:35 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708160105.VAA26202@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152147.QAA30844@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from Miguel de Icaza at "Aug 15, 97 04:47:24 pm" To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 795 Lines: 19 Thus spake Miguel de Icaza: > Agreed. I really preffer this way of setting up Linux, but this > basically forces you to have an NFS server with the installation files > somewhere accessible. Really? If I stick all the RH stuff in an initrd and then they do FTP install, then they should be able to use it via boot /vmlinux or boot -f bootp()..., no? Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Resident Linux bigot and kernel hacker. (OOPS!) #> `If you get bitten by a bug, tough luck...the one thing I won't do #> is feel sorry for you. In fact, I might ask you to do it all over #> again, just to get more information. I'm a heartless bastard.' #> -- Linus Torvalds (on development kernels) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 22:11:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA131637; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA21481 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:10:45 -0700 Received: from motown.detroit.sgi.com (motown.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.3]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA21458 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:10:42 -0700 Received: from detroit.sgi.com by motown.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id BAA24055; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:10:34 -0400 Message-ID: <33F535E0.7336423F@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:08:48 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel de Icaza CC: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: boot linux - wish References: <199708152146.QAA30833@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1928 Lines: 47 Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > > Could someone rise to the challenge of writing a utility > > > that will install Linux on an IRIX machine? > > > > I don't mind rising to that challenge, but one huge obstacle is how do we > > get the utility to partition the Linux drive? > > the fx command is used to partition disks on IRIX. It took me a while > to work around the user friendlyness of it, but then, I wanted to keep > a part of my disk with XFS (because I just LOVE that file system) and > the rest for my ext2fs. > > > I'm guessing the solution is to write a utility that from within Irix > > talks directly to the raw SCSI disk to setup the partitions. I have NO > > idea how to do this as I doubt the raw disk interface is anything like > > that in Linux. Clues accepted. > > The only thing you need to do is access the first sector in the disk. > this one holds the disk label with the current partition definitions. > Oliver at .at was working on getting Linux FDISK up and running, you > can probably talk with him. > > > > And give hints like: > > > Sorry you don't have the e2fs tools installed on IRIX yet > > > should I download them from ftp.linux.sgi.com [y/n]? > > > > Er, does such a tool in fact exist? > > Yes. get the e2fsprogs suite, it is the only thing you need to > populate a file system. > > Miguel. Is there ever ANY chance of seeing XFS in Linux? Or a flavor of a really fast journaled file system? -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Vox:(810) 848-4455 39001 West 12mile Road Fax:(810)848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- http://bs.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=Eric+A.+Kimminau&fingerprint=on From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 22:17:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA131972; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA22033 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:17:38 -0700 Received: from motown.detroit.sgi.com (motown.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.3]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA22027; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:17:35 -0700 Received: from detroit.sgi.com by motown.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id BAA24083; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:17:29 -0400 Message-ID: <33F5377F.C05C1D42@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:15:43 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk References: <199708152251.AAA28505@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1329 Lines: 40 Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > boot -f bootp()labb.detroit:/tftpboot/linux/vmlinux > > nfsaddrs=169.238.129.18,169.238.129.5 > > > > labb (tftpboot server=169.238.129.5, linux=169.238.129.18) > > > > It boots but as soon as it sees the ethernet driver we get this: > > > > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e6:29 (which is our correct MAC addr)_ > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc > > == 880cbc5c, ra == 880cbc3c > > Could you send me the disassembler output of the kernel you've booted? > Use command like > > mips-linux-objdump -d vmlinux --start-address=0x880cbb00 --stop-address=0x880cd00 > > to produce the dissassembler listing. > > Ralf I will when I get back in the office on Monday, but its the latest kernel available on ftp.linux: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Vox:(810) 848-4455 39001 West 12mile Road Fax:(810)848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- http://bs.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=Eric+A.+Kimminau&fingerprint=on From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 15 23:19:03 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA128625; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA26590 for linux-list; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:18:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA26585 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:18:34 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id XAA21402 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:18:28 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA20984; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:18:24 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708160618.IAA20984@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id IAA06170; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:18:22 +0200 Subject: Re: boot linux - wish To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:18:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <33F535E0.7336423F@detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Aug 16, 97 01:08:48 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2563 Lines: 53 > Is there ever ANY chance of seeing XFS in Linux? Or a flavor of a really > fast journaled file system? FYI: >From owner-linux-ljfs@majordomo.ibasys.net Wed Aug 13 00:13:50 1997 Received: from alles.intern.julia.de (root@loehnberg1.core.julia.de [194.221.49.2]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA17532 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:13:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: from smtp1.ibasys.net (smtp1.ibasys.net [207.51.79.5]) by alles.intern.julia.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17166 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:49:47 +0200 Received: from kis.net (pop.kis.net [207.51.79.11]) by smtp1.ibasys.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11443; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:03:51 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by kis.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA20470 for linux-ljfs-outgoing; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:07:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:57:45 -0700 (PDT) From: adam@yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter) To: linux-ljfs@majordomo.ibasys.net Subject: LINUX-LJFS: snapshot FTPable Sender: owner-linux-ljfs@majordomo.ibasys.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-ljfs@majordomo.ibasys.net Status: RO The Fall 1994 and Fall 1995 releases of Yggdrasil Plug & Play Linux include development snapshots of a compressed log strucutred filesystem for Linux. This code is not functional. An updated snapshot is now FTPable from: ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/adam/linux-2.0.30.ygg.tar.gz ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/adam/mklogfs.c There is no fsck program yet. Again, this is just a snapshot. The code is not yet functional, but it is lightyears ahead of the discussions on this list and it includes the sorts of kernel modifications necessary to implement a fast log strucutured filesystem under the Linux kernel. The code should be instructuctive and should provide a good starting point for anyone wanted to implement a log structured filesystem under Linux. Be warned that when I get back to hacking on this filesystem, I intend to make some incompatible changes to the filesystem format. In particular, it will use btrees to map logical blocks to physical blocks and the directory structure will support something faster than linear searches to find a file name in a directory. Adam J. Richter __ ______________ 4880 Stevens Creek Blvd, Suite 205 adam@yggdrasil.com \ / San Jose, California 95129-1034 +1 408 261-6630 | g g d r a s i l United States of America fax +1 408 261-6631 "Free Software For The Rest Of Us." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 04:00:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA134697; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA18659 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:00:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA18654 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:00:26 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA16500 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:00:25 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA02528; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:56:12 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0wzheO-0005FiC; Sat, 16 Aug 97 13:08 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: boot linux - wish To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:08:12 +0100 (BST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708160105.VAA26202@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Aug 15, 97 09:05:34 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 279 Lines: 7 > If I stick all the RH stuff in an initrd and then they do FTP install, > then they should be able to use it via boot /vmlinux or boot -f > bootp()..., no? 2.1.4x blows up with an initrd - hopefully fixed in 2.1.50/soon but that means the SGI one will corrupt and explode atm From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 07:23:06 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA136611; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA00146 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:22:23 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA00120 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:22:12 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA05346 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:22:10 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA31361; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 10:15:49 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708161415.KAA31361@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: from Alan Cox at "Aug 16, 97 01:08:12 pm" To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 10:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1042 Lines: 24 Thus spake Alan Cox: > > If I stick all the RH stuff in an initrd and then they do FTP install, > > then they should be able to use it via boot /vmlinux or boot -f > > bootp()..., no? > > 2.1.4x blows up with an initrd - hopefully fixed in 2.1.50/soon but that > means the SGI one will corrupt and explode atm I thought Ijust saw something from Bill Hawes cross the list that addressed that, actually. Regardless, they've got at least a week to get 2.1.x playing nicely with initrds before I'll get a chance to use it on the Indy. The initrd stuff is the trivial part, and should operate identically to having it mounted via NFS-root. Thanks for the warning, though. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- will tame sendmail(8) for food #> #> "You are a very perverse individual, and I think I'd like to get to #> know you better." --- eric@reference.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 13:29:22 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA187935; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA01643 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:28:56 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA01637 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:28:53 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA00900 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:28:52 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02877; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:25:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199708162025.PAA02877@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: eak@detroit.sgi.com CC: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <33F535E0.7336423F@detroit.sgi.com> (message from Eric Kimminau on Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:08:48 -0400) Subject: Re: boot linux - wish X-FileLength: are infinite where infinity is set to 255 characters Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 308 Lines: 12 > > Yes. get the e2fsprogs suite, it is the only thing you need to > > populate a file system. > > > > Is there ever ANY chance of seeing XFS in Linux? Or a flavor of a really > fast journaled file system? not right now. And getting an XFS clone to work on Linux is really not a trivial task. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 13:33:43 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA190882; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA02837 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:33:29 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA02833 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:33:26 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA02754 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:33:24 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA20565; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:33:21 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708162033.WAA20565@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA07467; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:33:18 +0200 Subject: Re: boot linux - wish To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:33:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, ariel@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alan Cox" at Aug 16, 97 01:08:12 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 460 Lines: 12 > > If I stick all the RH stuff in an initrd and then they do FTP install, > > then they should be able to use it via boot /vmlinux or boot -f > > bootp()..., no? > > 2.1.4x blows up with an initrd - hopefully fixed in 2.1.50/soon but that > means the SGI one will corrupt and explode atm There are also additional MIPS bugs in the RAMdisk / initrd stuff. Shame on me, I have not used (-> debugged) it since the new style ramdisk code was merged ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 13:51:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA203215; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA03837 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:50:48 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA03829 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:50:44 -0700 Received: from odin.waw.com (ns1.waw.com [194.51.88.250]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA07406 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:50:42 -0700 env-from (vincent@waw.com) Received: from odin.waw.com (vincent@mail.waw.com [194.51.88.252]) by odin.waw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/waw) with SMTP id WAA30122; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:54:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 22:54:01 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Vincent Renardias To: Miguel de Icaza cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708162025.PAA02877@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 687 Lines: 21 On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > Is there ever ANY chance of seeing XFS in Linux? Or a flavor of a really > > fast journaled file system? > > not right now. And getting an XFS clone to work on Linux is really > not a trivial task. Are the XFS specs. available BTW? Cordialement, -- - ** Linux ** +-------------------+ ** WAW ** - - vincent@debian.org | RENARDIAS Vincent | vincent@waw.com - - Debian/GNU Linux +-------------------+ http://www.waw.com/ - - http://www.debian.org/ | WAW (33) 4 91 81 21 45 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 16 15:08:31 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA256262; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA11812 for linux-list; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:08:03 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA11804 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:07:59 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA20560 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:07:57 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA01148; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 00:07:48 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708162207.AAA01148@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id AAA07588; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 00:07:45 +0200 Subject: Re: boot linux - wish To: vincent@waw.com (Vincent Renardias) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 00:07:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Vincent Renardias" at Aug 16, 97 10:54:01 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 676 Lines: 19 > On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > > Is there ever ANY chance of seeing XFS in Linux? Or a flavor of a really > > > fast journaled file system? > > > > not right now. And getting an XFS clone to work on Linux is really > > not a trivial task. > > Are the XFS specs. available BTW? There is a whitepaper available on SGI's webserver. It however does not refer to the really interesting details. As far as the complexity of writing an XFS-like fs is concerned - SGI has invested a significant fraction of the R&D of XFS into the realtime stuff. So ignoring that part for the beginning makes the task of writing a XFS like filesystem much easier. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Aug 17 04:24:35 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA470594; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA02742 for linux-list; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:24:00 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA02727 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:23:56 -0700 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA17894 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:23:38 -0700 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.5-q-beta3/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA17995; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 12:20:48 +0100 Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0x04WI-0005FiC; Sun, 17 Aug 97 13:33 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: boot linux - wish To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:33:22 +0100 (BST) Cc: vincent@waw.com, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708162207.AAA01148@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Aug 17, 97 00:07:45 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 505 Lines: 11 > As far as the complexity of writing an XFS-like fs is concerned - SGI has > invested a significant fraction of the R&D of XFS into the realtime stuff. > So ignoring that part for the beginning makes the task of writing a XFS > like filesystem much easier. An XFS reader doesn't look too difficult, we can even take the btree code from the Mac HFS driver. It should be possible to put the writing algorithm back together by working back from the actual allocation patterns for blocks the system makes From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Aug 17 21:26:44 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA482877; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA02200 for linux-list; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:26:06 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA02185 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:26:04 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA29920 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:26:03 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA05649 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 00:25:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 00:25:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Kernel with working initrd? In-Reply-To: <199708152146.QAA30833@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 579 Lines: 16 Does someone have an old pre-compiled kernel with which initrd is working properly? I've prepared a ram disk image (soon to be cvs'd) that might work, but because of the broken initrd in the current kernel, I'm not going to bother. Thanks. - Alex "who finally read enough to figure out how to create a ram disk image, got Linux for Sparc processors installed sans floppy, and ran a 35 minute 5 miler in one day, I thank Fig Newtons" deVries Alex deVries Success is realizing System Administrator attainable dreams. The EngSoc Project From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 07:40:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA459062; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA26944 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:40:20 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA26913; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:40:17 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA13662; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:40:07 -0400 Message-ID: <33F85EC7.90279798@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:40:07 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk References: <199708152251.AAA28505@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1574 Lines: 44 Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > boot -f bootp()labb.detroit:/tftpboot/linux/vmlinux > > nfsaddrs=169.238.129.18,169.238.129.5 > > > > labb (tftpboot server=169.238.129.5, linux=169.238.129.18) > > > > It boots but as soon as it sees the ethernet driver we get this: > > > > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e6:29 (which is our correct MAC addr)_ > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc > > == 880cbc5c, ra == 880cbc3c > > Could you send me the disassembler output of the kernel you've booted? > Use command like > > mips-linux-objdump -d vmlinux --start-address=0x880cbb00 --stop-address=0x880cd00 > > to produce the dissassembler listing. > > Ralf Sorry, I got your message late on Friday. How do I acomplish this on a system that won't boot? -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 10:30:47 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA492189; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA00690 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:29:55 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA00650; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:29:48 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA26259; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:29:44 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA22950; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:29:28 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708181729.TAA22950@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA11345; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:29:27 +0200 Subject: Re: Booting Linux from second disk To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:29:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, jeremyw@motown.detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-progress@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <33F85EC7.90279798@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> from "Eric Kimminau" at Aug 18, 97 10:40:07 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 507 Lines: 18 > > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc > > > == 880cbc5c, ra == 880cbc3c > > > > Could you send me the disassembler output of the kernel you've booted? > > Use command like > > > > mips-linux-objdump -d vmlinux --start-address=0x880cbb00 --stop-address=0x880cd00 > > > > to produce the dissassembler listing. > > > > Ralf > > Sorry, I got your message late on Friday. How do I acomplish this on a > system that won't boot? Use the crossdev tools :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 16:28:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA512075; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA23279 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:27:10 -0700 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA23265 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:27:08 -0700 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA25228; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:34:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:34:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199708182334.QAA25228@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: linux@fir.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: clock skew and ethernet timeouts In-Reply-To: <199708142315.BAA06429@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> References: <199708132209.RAA31518@speedy.rd.qms.com> <199708142315.BAA06429@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 22 Ralf Baechle writes: ... > There are more thing which need to be reworked with resprect to interrupts. > For example cache flushing turns interrupts off for sometimes several > thousand cycles even though this is only required for certain buggy CPUs > like the R4600 v1.x. And even there are better workarounds. General > rule about cli(): Think about it if you really need it. Then think again > about it. If you're finished wnd still think cli() might be a good solution, > then think once again about it ... ... In IRIX, I had the cache flushing code, when doing writebacks on the R4600 and the like, reenable interrupts every page, to limit the wait time (to about 50 us. on an Indy). I patched out the extra instructions to disable and reenable interrupts on processors which did not require them. Assuming that the code uses index invalidate or index writeback invalidate when the buffer is larger than the cache, the invalidate-only case (without writeback) is short enough (5 us. or less) that reenabling interrupts is not needed. The writeback case takes much longer, in the worst case, because each cache line must be written to memory, taking about 400 ns. each on the Indy. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 18:38:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA520830; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA16546 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:37:40 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA16530 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:37:37 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA13012 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:37:36 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA19778 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:37:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Current problems. In-Reply-To: <199708152146.QAA30833@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1201 Lines: 33 I'm using the kernel that was precompiled, and mentioned on the list earlier. Things I notice about the kernel: - it crashes occasionally on bootup, saying 'spinning' at the end - on CAD, it just says "Disabling R4600 SCACHE", and does nothing - when I'm doing a lot of NFS IO, it says the NFS server has timedout. I really doubt it, considering the available speed of my NFS server. Disk problems I'm having: - occasionally, my mounts will just disappear. One moment I'll have /proc mounted, the next it'll be gone. It's very difficult to copy filesystems like this. - /proc/mounts claims that my NFS-root mounted / is rw, but I always get permission errors when trying to write to it. - I'm apparantly not intelligent enough to use fx to partition my sdb correctly. I put it in expert mode, but I simply cannot delete partition 10, the volume. What should the partition table look like from fx's view point? In Linux, I get: sdb:Dev 08:10 SGI disklabel: bad magic 000000000 unknown partition table Ideas? Thank god for the hidden reset button. - Alex Alex deVries Success is realizing System Administrator attainable dreams. The EngSoc Project From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 20:25:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA523265; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA13775 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:24:15 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA13756 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:24:11 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA01326 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:24:10 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA24325; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:23:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Stephen Gass cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Current problems. In-Reply-To: <9708191304.ZM1251@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1354 Lines: 40 (Stephen, excuse me for reposting your mail to a public list, but I think there is some value in it) On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Stephen Gass wrote: > fx only supports the following types of partition types : > volhdr,raw,volume,rlvol,xlv,trkrepl,bsd,efs,xfs,secrepl,sysv,lvol,xfslog > I don't know if the supported partition types are compatible in any way with > linux. The regular partition tools in root-be-0.00.cpio.gz seem to be missing > ( mke2fs, fdisk(?) etc ) Actually, mke2fs is in /sbin. Fdisk isn't. > Hopefully some kind soul will let me know how to either : > (a) Extract rpms That's not too tough... it's a matter of over-ruling the architecture checking of the rpm command line, or rewriting something that uses rpmlib. I will hack something together. > (b) tell me where I can pick up mke2fs It's there for SGI Linux already. I've stolen (with the help of Mike Shaver) from Alistair Lambie a .tar.gz of e2fs tools fo Irix. It's in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/ . I had quite a bit of problems getting the raw source to compile under Irix myself, so this was a blessing. Alistair, if you mind, I'll take it down. Let me tack on a big question here: (c) How should I in fact be setting up a disk? Do I even need to partition? If I'm formatting from within Irix, what device should I be mke2fs'ing? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 20:29:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA521474; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA14950 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:29:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA14942 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:29:35 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA03853 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:29:34 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA24544; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:29:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:29:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Stephen Gass cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Current problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 415 Lines: 14 On Mon, 18 Aug 1997, Alex deVries wrote: > > Hopefully some kind soul will let me know how to either : > > (a) Extract rpms > That's not too tough... it's a matter of over-ruling the architecture > checking of the rpm command line, or rewriting something that uses rpmlib. > I will hack something together. Doh! It's --ignorearch . No, that's not in the man pages, it's in the source and "Maximum RPM". - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 19 03:41:04 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA482822; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA28690 for linux-list; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:39:08 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA28670 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:39:01 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA22299 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:38:57 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id MAA07720; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 12:38:27 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 12:38:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Mike Shaver cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: boot linux - wish In-Reply-To: <199708152053.QAA24515@neon.ingenia.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 436 Lines: 12 > > Oliver is working on fdisk, I believe. > Last I heard, he was working on the geometry-query issue. Oliver? > yes. i've started to work on fdisk and tried to figure out why fdisk returned "wrong" disk parameters (this was an issue on kernel-dev a while ago) and digged through the low and mid level block device drivers. unfortunately the indy i was using is now being used for some other project until mid september :( oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 14:24:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA502206; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA04191 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:23:29 -0700 Received: from sydney.sydney.sgi.com (sydney.sydney.sgi.com [134.14.48.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA04160 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:23:25 -0700 Received: from zephyr.sydney.sgi.com by sydney.sydney.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/930416.SGI) for <@sydney.sydney.sgi.com:linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> id HAA07504; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:23:23 +1000 Received: (from stepheng@localhost) by zephyr.sydney.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA02301 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:23:21 +1000 From: "Stephen Gass" Message-Id: <9708190723.ZM2299@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:23:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: NFS booting from IRIX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4341 Lines: 132 Hi All, After a couple of hours yeaterday, I managed to get the precompiled vmlinux and root distribution going without too many problems from linux. I had more trouble setting up NFS booting than anything else, so I have expanded on some of the instruction already produced to help those who want to nfs boot from IRIX. I think I have covered some of the gotchas below. I have two questions though : (a) How do you install rpms without rpm ??? root-be-0.00.cpio.gz does not contain rpm. (b) Where are the ext2fs tools ?? Are they an RPM in e2fsprogs-1.10-0.mips.rpm ?? Regards, Stephen Gass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Booting Linux from IRIX via NFS 1) From ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/, retrieve the following files : - glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz - root-be-0.00.cpio.gz From ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/, retrieve the following files : - vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz 2) Scrounge for disk space (115Mb min. ) on any 5.3 or > machine. Create / link a folder to the linux root. eg /tftpboot/linux Copy root-be-0.00.cpio.gz, glibc-2.0.4-1.tar.gz and vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz to the directory, and execute the following commands from the linux directory : gzip -dc root-be-0.00.cpio.gz | cpio -id gzip -dc root-be-0.00.cpio.gz | tar -xvf - gzip -d vmlinux-970813-jwr.gz mv vmlinux-970813-jwr vmlinux This should spool the O/S image onto the IRIX NFS server, use cpio -idv for verbose mode. Remember you may need as much as 115Mb for the initial install ( including root image, RPMs etc etc ). Also before going much further it would be worth making sure that the graphics board in the Indy is not an XZ, when you do an hinv from IRIX, and your graphics board is reported as : Graphics board: GR3-XZ, rather than Graphics board: Indy 8-bit, or Graphics board: Indy 24-bit Then, you better find a different Indy now. 3) from the directory you installed the linux root filesystem, go to the linux etc directory and edit mtab, and optionally create/edit the hosts file and resolv.conf file to be applicable to your domain. 4) Make sure rarpd and bootp have been enabled on the NFS server by checking the following : (i) In /usr/etc/inetd.conf, the bootp and tftp entries should look ike this : bootp dgram udp wait root /usr/etc/bootp bootp tftp dgram udp wait guest /usr/etc/tftpd tftpd (ii) execute : chkconfig rarpd on 5) Make sure that there are entries in /etc/ethers on the NFS server for each of the Indys you wish to boot linux, eg : # # /etc/ethers maps Ethernet addresses to hostnames # # The library routine ether_line() uses this file. # # The format of a line is: # # x:x:x:x:x:x hostname # # where the first field is the 48-bit Ethernet address # expressed as 6 hexadecimal bytes. # 8:0:69:9:3f:f8 zephyr Similarly, make sure that there are /etc/hosts entries on the NFS server for each of the Indys you will be booting, eg : 134.14.48.107 democage.sydney.sgi.com democage 134.14.48.73 zephyr.sydney.sgi.com zephyr 6) Finally, for each of the machines booting linux, you need to provide a mount point off /tftpboot. The mount directory should be the ip address of the Indy you will be booting from eg : for zephyr, /tftpboot/134.14.48.73 After this the NFS server is ready for booting from. If you have modified /usr/etc/inetd.conf, then you will need to : /etc/killall -HUP inetd 7) From the Indy you will be booting, power down the machine. Re-apply poer and wait for the power-on diags to finish. When the splash screen comes up 'Hit esc for maintenance' go into mainetance mode and start up the PROM monitor. From here, you need to type the following : boot -f bootp(): nfsaddrs=: eg boot -f bootp()democage.sydney:/tftpboot/linux/vmlinux nfsaddrs=134.14.48.73: 134.14.48.107 If all goes well, this command should start linux up on any Newport graphics equipped Indy, with or without disks ! -- Silicon Graphics Pty Ltd | E-mail: stepheng@sydney.sgi.com 446 Victoria Rd | Phone : +61-2-9879-9500 VM#: 56721 Gladesville, 2111, NSW | Mobile :+61-419-879-504 "Force - the result of pushing on a door marked pull" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 19 08:28:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA532346; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA16541 for linux-list; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:26:20 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA16517 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:26:17 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA23440 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:26:12 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22164; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:22:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:22:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199708191522.KAA22164@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: stepheng@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Mon, 18 Aug 1997 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Current problems. X-Windows: It was hard to write; it should be hard to use. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 308 Lines: 10 > (c) How should I in fact be setting up a disk? Do I even need to > partition? If I'm formatting from within Irix, what device should I be > mke2fs'ing? I remember that I figured out the name of the device from fx comments. It's been a while since I booted IRIX on my Indy, can't remember ;-) Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 19 08:29:43 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA532124; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA17449 for linux-list; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:29:22 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA17419 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:29:19 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA24898 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:29:15 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22197; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:25:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199708191525.KAA22197@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: stepheng@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <9708191425.ZM1486@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com> (stepheng@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com) Subject: Re: What works - what doesn't X-Windows: Live the nightmare. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 439 Lines: 16 Hello Stephen, > I have just tested booting linux using nfs on 6 indys. I have the following > results : > Error : > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == > 880cbc5c , ra == 880cbc3c Can you tell us which kernel you are using? Did you compile it yourself? In that case, can you look up the epc and ra addresses on the System.map file and tell us where those addresses fall? Cheers, Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Aug 19 11:08:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA532070; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA23127 for linux-list; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:07:03 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA23100 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:07:00 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id OAA16561; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: <33F9E0BA.3515E0C5@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:06:50 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Gass CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: What works - what doesn't References: <9708191425.ZM1486@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 6981 Lines: 181 YES! WE ARE NOT INSANE!!! WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT! Ugh... :) Stephen Gass wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have just tested booting linux using nfs on 6 indys. I have the following > results : > > The following systems worked. Notice that the ones that worked are all R4600 > based CPUs with varying memory, CPU speed , CPU cache and Newport graphics > options. The Indys I couldn't get to boot from a NFS server were all R4400 > based systems ! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4610 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Main memory size: 96 Mbytes > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 8-bit > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 > Main memory size: 96 Mbytes > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > Scanner: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 24-bit > > N.B. - Worked only after removing the scanner ! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 > Main memory size: 96 Mbytes > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 24-bit > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 > Main memory size: 64 Mbytes > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > CDROM: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 24-bit > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The following systems did not work : > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 150 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0 > CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 5.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0 > Main memory size: 64 Mbytes > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 24-bit > > Error : > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == > 880cbc5c , ra == 880cbc3c > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0 > CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0 > On-board serial ports: 2 > On-board bi-directional parallel port > Data cache size: 16 Kbytes > Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte > Main memory size: 64 Mbytes > Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 > Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 > Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D > Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 > Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 > Graphics board: Indy 24-bit > Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected > > Error : > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == > 880cbc5c , ra == 880cbc3c > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Silicon Graphics Pty Ltd | E-mail: stepheng@sydney.sgi.com > 446 Victoria Rd | Phone : +61-2-9879-9500 VM#: 56721 > Gladesville, 2111, NSW | Mobile :+61-419-879-504 > > "Force - the result of pushing on a door marked pull" -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Aug 18 21:26:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA522968; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA25538 for linux-list; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:25:23 -0700 Received: from sydney.sydney.sgi.com (sydney.sydney.sgi.com [134.14.48.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA25524 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:25:18 -0700 Received: from zephyr.sydney.sgi.com by sydney.sydney.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/930416.SGI) for <@sydney.sydney.sgi.com:linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> id OAA17437; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:25:16 +1000 Received: (from stepheng@localhost) by zephyr.sydney.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01488 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:25:15 +1000 From: "Stephen Gass" Message-Id: <9708191425.ZM1486@zephyr.sydney.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:25:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: What works - what doesn't Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 5788 Lines: 157 Hi All, I have just tested booting linux using nfs on 6 indys. I have the following results : The following systems worked. Notice that the ones that worked are all R4600 based CPUs with varying memory, CPU speed , CPU cache and Newport graphics options. The Indys I couldn't get to boot from a NFS server were all R4400 based systems ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4610 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Main memory size: 96 Mbytes Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 Main memory size: 96 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Scanner: unit 7 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit N.B. - Worked only after removing the scanner ! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 Main memory size: 96 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D CDROM: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following systems did not work : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 150 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0 CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 5.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0 Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit Error : Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == 880cbc5c , ra == 880cbc3c ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0 CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Error : Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == 880cbc5c , ra == 880cbc3c ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Silicon Graphics Pty Ltd | E-mail: stepheng@sydney.sgi.com 446 Victoria Rd | Phone : +61-2-9879-9500 VM#: 56721 Gladesville, 2111, NSW | Mobile :+61-419-879-504 "Force - the result of pushing on a door marked pull" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 20 08:03:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ([192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA16463; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA16934 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:02:48 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA16888 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:02:38 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.qms.com (gatekeeper.qms.com [161.33.3.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id IAA17608 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:02:33 -0700 env-from (marks@sun470.rd.qms.com) Received: from sun470.rd.qms.com (sun470.qms.com) by gatekeeper.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16384; Wed, 20 Aug 97 10:02:27 CDT Received: from neptune.rd.qms.com by sun470.rd.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15592; Wed, 20 Aug 97 10:02:25 CDT Received: by neptune.rd.qms.com (4.1) id AA03372; Wed, 20 Aug 97 10:02:24 CDT Date: Wed, 20 Aug 97 10:02:24 CDT Message-Id: <9708201502.AA03372@neptune.rd.qms.com> From: Mark Salter To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: ethernet driver patch Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3716 Lines: 119 This patch seems to have fixed the excessive ethernet timeouts I've been seeing. The problem was a race condition when queueing another packet for transmisson. The code in sgiseeq_start_xmit() would try to start another transmission from the head of the transmit queue if the HPC was inactive. Because interrupts are off at this time, it was possible that that packet had been transmitted but the queue head had not been advanced by an interrupt service. This resulted in a duplicate packet being sent over the wire and when interrupts were reenabled, the normal ack'ing of the original transmission of that packet would put the HPC into a wedged state which eventually led to a timeout and reset. --Mark *** sgiseeq.c.orig Wed Aug 20 09:36:58 1997 --- sgiseeq.c Wed Aug 20 09:37:08 1997 *************** *** 351,356 **** --- 351,375 ---- } } + static inline void kick_tx(struct sgiseeq_tx_desc *td, + volatile struct hpc3_ethregs *hregs) + { + /* If the HPC aint doin nothin, and there are more packets + * with ETXD cleared and XIU set we must make very certain + * that we restart the HPC else we risk locking up the + * adapter. The following code is only safe iff the HPCDMA + * is not active! + */ + while((td->tdma.cntinfo & (HPCDMA_XIU | HPCDMA_ETXD)) == + (HPCDMA_XIU | HPCDMA_ETXD)) + td = (struct sgiseeq_tx_desc *) + KSEG1ADDR(td->tdma.pnext); + if(td->tdma.cntinfo & HPCDMA_XIU) { + hregs->tx_ndptr = PHYSADDR(td); + hregs->tx_ctrl = HPC3_ETXCTRL_ACTIVE; + } + } + static inline void sgiseeq_tx(struct device *dev, struct sgiseeq_private *sp, volatile struct hpc3_ethregs *hregs, volatile struct sgiseeq_regs *sregs) *************** *** 371,392 **** if(status & SEEQ_TSTAT_LCLS) sp->stats.collisions++; } ! /* If the HPC aint doin nothin, and there are more packets ! * with ETXD cleared and XIU set we must make very certain ! * that we restart the HPC else we risk locking up the ! * adapter. The following read of tx_ndptr is only safe ! * iff the HPCDMA is not active! ! */ ! td = (struct sgiseeq_tx_desc *) ! KSEG1ADDR(((hregs->tx_ndptr) & ~0xf)); ! while((td->tdma.cntinfo & (HPCDMA_XIU | HPCDMA_ETXD)) == ! (HPCDMA_XIU | HPCDMA_ETXD)) ! td = (struct sgiseeq_tx_desc *) ! KSEG1ADDR(td->tdma.pnext); ! if(td->tdma.cntinfo & HPCDMA_XIU) { ! hregs->tx_ndptr = PHYSADDR(td); ! hregs->tx_ctrl = HPC3_ETXCTRL_ACTIVE; ! } } /* Ack 'em... */ --- 390,397 ---- if(status & SEEQ_TSTAT_LCLS) sp->stats.collisions++; } ! kick_tx((struct sgiseeq_tx_desc *)KSEG1ADDR((hregs->tx_ndptr & ~0xf)), ! hregs); } /* Ack 'em... */ *************** *** 515,521 **** } if(skb->len <= 0) { ! printk("%s: skb len is %ld\n", dev->name, skb->len); return -1; } /* Are we getting in someone else's way? */ --- 520,526 ---- } if(skb->len <= 0) { ! printk("%s: skb len is %d\n", dev->name, skb->len); return -1; } /* Are we getting in someone else's way? */ *************** *** 575,584 **** sp->tx_new = NEXT_TX(sp->tx_new); /* Advance. */ /* Maybe kick the HPC back into motion. */ ! if(!(hregs->tx_ctrl & HPC3_ETXCTRL_ACTIVE)) { ! hregs->tx_ndptr = PHYSADDR(&sp->srings.tx_desc[sp->tx_old]); ! hregs->tx_ctrl = HPC3_ETXCTRL_ACTIVE; ! } dev->trans_start = jiffies; dev_kfree_skb(skb, FREE_WRITE); --- 580,588 ---- sp->tx_new = NEXT_TX(sp->tx_new); /* Advance. */ /* Maybe kick the HPC back into motion. */ ! if(!(hregs->tx_ctrl & HPC3_ETXCTRL_ACTIVE)) ! kick_tx(&sp->srings.tx_desc[sp->tx_old], hregs); ! dev->trans_start = jiffies; dev_kfree_skb(skb, FREE_WRITE); From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 20 08:20:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ([192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA16827; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA20945 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:19:26 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA20875 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:19:11 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA27981 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:19:10 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA05352; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:12:21 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708201512.LAA05352@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: ethernet driver patch In-Reply-To: <9708201502.AA03372@neptune.rd.qms.com> from Mark Salter at "Aug 20, 97 10:02:24 am" To: marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com (Mark Salter) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 556 Lines: 17 Thus spake Mark Salter: > This patch seems to have fixed the excessive ethernet timeouts > I've been seeing. Excellent! Thank you very much. I'll apply and commit this patch shortly. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Chief System Architect -- Head geek -- System exorcist #> #> "Have you considered a life? I hear they're quite affordable #> these days." --- shields@tembel.org From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 20 18:13:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA158739; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA23349 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:13:21 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA23344 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:13:18 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA29470 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:13:16 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id DAA12024; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 03:13:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 03:13:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 313 Lines: 12 hi, after i was finally able to free and Indy from useless tasks like DNS, mail, www :) i have now problems booting the machine. after/at start of the Ethernet driver i get the following message: eth0 SGI Seeq .... Unable to handle kernel paging request at 00000008, epc: 880d8a64 what's going wrong ? oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 20 20:18:18 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA176168; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA19995 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:17:21 -0700 Received: from motown.detroit.sgi.com (motown.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.3]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA19932 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:17:11 -0700 Received: from detroit.sgi.com by motown.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id XAA22228; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:16:43 -0400 Message-ID: <33FBB2AD.4CA539DD@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:14:53 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Frommel CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 30 Oliver Frommel wrote: > > hi, > > after i was finally able to free and Indy from useless tasks like DNS, mail, www > :) i have now problems booting the machine. > after/at start of the Ethernet driver i get the following message: > > eth0 SGI Seeq .... > Unable to handle kernel paging request at 00000008, epc: 880d8a64 > > what's going wrong ? > > oliver Ill put $100.00 US that you have an R4000 or R4400 Indy NOT an R4600. The only system we have been able to boot is an R4600 with the kernel we pulled down off ftp. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Vox:(810) 848-4455 39001 West 12mile Road Fax:(810)848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- http://bs.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=Eric+A.+Kimminau&fingerprint=on From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 20 22:12:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA161256; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA04153 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:12:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA04145 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:12:35 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA25194 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:12:26 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id HAA14635; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:12:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 07:12:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Eric Kimminau cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot In-Reply-To: <33FBB2AD.4CA539DD@detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 406 Lines: 17 > > > > eth0 SGI Seeq .... > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at 00000008, epc: 880d8a64 > > > > what's going wrong ? > > > > oliver > > Ill put $100.00 US that you have an R4000 or R4400 Indy NOT an R4600. > The only system we have been able to boot is an R4600 with the kernel we > pulled down off ftp. > yeah .. it's a 4400 .. i did all previous sgilinux work on a R5000 though, FYI o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 06:32:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA208204; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA25868 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:31:31 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA25859 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:31:27 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id JAA13359; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:31:16 -0400 Message-ID: <33FC4323.F02A6C0B@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:31:15 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Frommel CC: Eric Kimminau , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1353 Lines: 43 Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > > > > > eth0 SGI Seeq .... > > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at 00000008, epc: 880d8a64 > > > > > > what's going wrong ? > > > > > > oliver > > > > Ill put $100.00 US that you have an R4000 or R4400 Indy NOT an R4600. > > > The only system we have been able to boot is an R4600 with the kernel we > > pulled down off ftp. > > > > yeah .. it's a 4400 .. i did all previous sgilinux work on a R5000 though, FYI > > o. WHOOHOO! DOes that mean you owe me $100.00? :) Agreed on the R5k working. Dunno why R4400 doesnt. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 09:04:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA216053; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA25038 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:03:11 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA24992 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:03:06 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA05142 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:03:04 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08591; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:58:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:58:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199708211558.KAA08591@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: oliver@aec.at CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Oliver Frommel on Thu, 21 Aug 1997 03:13:07 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot X-Windows: Sometimes you fill a vacuum and it still sucks. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 328 Lines: 11 > after i was finally able to free and Indy from useless tasks like DNS, mail, www > :) i have now problems booting the machine. > after/at start of the Ethernet driver i get the following message: > > eth0 SGI Seeq .... > Unable to handle kernel paging request at 00000008, epc: 880d8a64 What kernel are you using? Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 09:10:31 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA216322; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA27252 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:10:10 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA27226 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:10:06 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA07529 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:10:05 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08758; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:05:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:05:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199708211605.LAA08758@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: eak@detroit.sgi.com CC: oliver@aec.at, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <33FBB2AD.4CA539DD@detroit.sgi.com> (message from Eric Kimminau on Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:14:53 -0400) Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot X-Windows: Flawed beyond belief. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 306 Lines: 13 > Ill put $100.00 US that you have an R4000 or R4400 Indy NOT an R4600. > > The only system we have been able to boot is an R4600 with the kernel we > pulled down off ftp. Can you both guys fetch this kernel: ftp://ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx/incoming/vmlinux and send me the output of the crash? Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 10:45:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA247096; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA29697 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:44:18 -0700 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA29684 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:44:15 -0700 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA17470; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:43:55 -0400 Message-ID: <33FC7E5B.9986898E@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:43:55 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel de Icaza CC: eak@detroit.sgi.com, oliver@aec.at, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot References: <199708211605.LAA08758@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1541 Lines: 44 Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > Ill put $100.00 US that you have an R4000 or R4400 Indy NOT an R4600. > > > > The only system we have been able to boot is an R4600 with the kernel we > > pulled down off ftp. > > Can you both guys fetch this kernel: > > ftp://ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx/incoming/vmlinux > > and send me the output of the crash? > > Miguel. Well, when we got word yesterday that 4600's were working, we swapped the CPU module on linux.detroit to an R400 and we are working that way towards getting a bootable system. We are still having problems getting a boot via nfs to work. Things would be a whole lot simpler if we could mke2fs on a disk while booting IRIX, mount it and copy all the stuff over before trying to boot linux. -- Eric Kimminau System Engineer/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" Windows 95: n. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. Author unknown. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 11:27:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA252981; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA18430 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:24:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA18415 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:24:39 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA28165 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:24:37 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA15741; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: eak@detroit.sgi.com cc: Miguel de Icaza , oliver@aec.at, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot In-Reply-To: <33FC7E5B.9986898E@cygnus.detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 816 Lines: 25 On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > We are still having problems getting a boot via nfs to work. What problems are you having, exactly? These should be pretty easy to solve. Mind you, just popping vmlinux on Irix's /, and booting with the boot monitor with: vmlinux nfsroot=bl.ea.h:/sgi-linux works very easily, and saves the whole problem of having to setup tftpboot, etc. > Things would be a whole lot simpler if we could mke2fs on a disk while > booting IRIX, mount it and copy all the stuff over before trying to boot mke2fs does exist for Irix; check out the e2fs tools that are precompiled and sitting on ftp.linux.sgi.com. It's in the misc directory. Actually copying them over is a problem, though, since Irix can't read ext2. I have a ramdisk setup, I just need to test it. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 21 19:45:01 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA341897; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA09709 for linux-list; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:43:38 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA09699 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:43:36 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA25439 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:43:32 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA08505 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:43:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Kernel compile errors... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1578 Lines: 32 I just checked out the latest kernel, and I get the following errors when I try to compile. Uh, what am I doing wrong? I'm afraid MIPS assembler is above me. make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/adevries/linux/arch/mips/kernel' mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/adevries/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__GOGOGO__ -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o entry.S: Assembler messages: entry.S:208: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:208: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:209: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:209: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:216: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:216: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:218: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:218: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:219: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:219: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:220: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:220: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/adevries/linux/arch/mips/kernel' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 - Alex Alex deVries Success is realizing System Administrator attainable dreams. The EngSoc Project From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 03:46:43 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA371943; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA12948 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:45:42 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA12936 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:45:35 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA26567 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:45:32 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id MAA26641; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:45:19 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:45:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Miguel de Icaza cc: eak@detroit.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot In-Reply-To: <199708211605.LAA08758@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 470 Lines: 22 > > Can you both guys fetch this kernel: > > ftp://ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx/incoming/vmlinux > > and send me the output of the crash? > now i get "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00003004, epc == 880cb0d4, ra == 880cb698" funny, i now get a scsi error after successfully (?) passing the eth driver init: sda: scsi disk I/O error dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read part. table i guess that'd impose some problems to fdisk, too :) o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 08:54:15 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA397475; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA22381 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:53:50 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA22363 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:53:46 -0700 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA06602 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:53:35 -0700 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17711; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:49:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:49:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199708221549.KAA17711@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:43:00 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... X-Windows: The first fully modular software disaster. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 336 Lines: 10 > I just checked out the latest kernel, and I get the following errors when > I try to compile. Uh, what am I doing wrong? I'm afraid MIPS assembler is > above me. Strange, I have been using the gcc and binutils packages put together by Ralf for a long time, it is not the stock gcc/binutils, probably this is your problem? Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 14:17:45 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA342942; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA00265 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:15:59 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA00212 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:15:53 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA12044 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:15:48 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA18541; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:15:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:15:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Miguel de Icaza cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... In-Reply-To: <199708221549.KAA17711@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 643 Lines: 21 On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > I just checked out the latest kernel, and I get the following errors when > > I try to compile. Uh, what am I doing wrong? I'm afraid MIPS assembler is > > above me. > > Strange, I have been using the gcc and binutils packages put together > by Ralf for a long time, it is not the stock gcc/binutils, probably > this is your problem? I don't think so. The ones I'm using are those from Ralf as well. I will double check to make sure. Mike is having this problem on his machine too, I believe. What I want to do is add in initrd support so that I can try out my new boot image. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 17:56:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA475814; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA15917 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:55:50 -0700 Received: from oddhack.engr.sgi.com (oddhack.engr.sgi.com [150.166.37.86]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA15911 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:55:48 -0700 Received: (from ljp@localhost) by oddhack.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20164; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:55:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:55:47 -0700 From: ljp@oddhack.engr.sgi.com (Jon Leech) Message-Id: <199708230055.RAA20164@oddhack.engr.sgi.com> Apparently-To: ljp@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: Lib@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: update:@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: 'Lib/config@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: Config.mk@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: aix@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: alpha@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: hp@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: i860@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: linux@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: sgi@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: sgi-mips4@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: solaris@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: sun@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: suncc@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Apparently-To: ultrix'@oddhack.engr.sgi.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 253 Lines: 9 Update of /usr/people/ljp/unc/cvsroot/Lib/config In directory oddhack.engr.sgi.com:/usr/people/ljp/unc/Lib/config Modified Files: Config.mk aix alpha hp i860 linux sgi sgi-mips4 solaris sun suncc ultrix Log Message: Checkpoint when moving to SGI. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 18:25:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA478017; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA23688 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:25:34 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA23679 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:25:32 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA04904 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:25:18 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA27638; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:25:16 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708230125.DAA27638@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA07716; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:25:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:25:11 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Aug 22, 97 05:15:11 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 534 Lines: 14 > > > I just checked out the latest kernel, and I get the following errors when > > > I try to compile. Uh, what am I doing wrong? I'm afraid MIPS assembler is > > > above me. > > > > Strange, I have been using the gcc and binutils packages put together > > by Ralf for a long time, it is not the stock gcc/binutils, probably > > this is your problem? > > I don't think so. The ones I'm using are those from Ralf as well. I will > double check to make sure. This is a bug which I fixed in my version of binutils, so ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 18:45:35 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA479278; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA27321 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:45:12 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA27293 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:45:09 -0700 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA11792 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:45:08 -0700 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA26951; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:44:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:44:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Ralf Baechle cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... In-Reply-To: <199708230125.DAA27638@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1834 Lines: 38 On Sat, 23 Aug 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > Strange, I have been using the gcc and binutils packages put together > > > by Ralf for a long time, it is not the stock gcc/binutils, probably > > > this is your problem? > > I don't think so. The ones I'm using are those from Ralf as well. I will > > double check to make sure. > This is a bug which I fixed in my version of binutils, so ... ... so I don't have the right version. I'm using the RPM's I create in: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linux/ Those are based on the executables found in the .tar.gz in that directory. I know that because I made the RPM, and because the file sizes match. They are: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27856 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-ar* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 193440 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-as* -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 6544 Sep 20 1996 mips-linux-c++* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24428 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-c++filt* -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 6544 Sep 20 1996 mips-linux-g++* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41960 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-gasp* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 50880 Sep 20 1996 mips-linux-gcc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 155792 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-ld* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 36924 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-nm* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 152396 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-objcopy* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 151304 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-objdump* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27856 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-ranlib* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14220 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-size* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14172 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-strings* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 152396 Jul 25 20:21 mips-linux-strip* Is this the correct binutils, and if not, where is it? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Aug 22 18:57:55 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA478931; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA29246 for linux-list; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:37 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA29239 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:35 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA16111 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:32 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA01305; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:57:29 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708230157.DAA01305@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id DAA07749; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:57:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:57:25 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Aug 22, 97 09:44:23 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 661 Lines: 18 > > On Sat, 23 Aug 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > > Strange, I have been using the gcc and binutils packages put together > > > > by Ralf for a long time, it is not the stock gcc/binutils, probably > > > > this is your problem? > > > I don't think so. The ones I'm using are those from Ralf as well. I will > > > double check to make sure. > > This is a bug which I fixed in my version of binutils, so ... > > ... so I don't have the right version. > > I'm using the RPM's I create in: > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linux/ Check the version number and file dates. Compare with current version and date. Conclusion? ;-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 23 09:04:56 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA521197; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA15138 for linux-list; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:04:36 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA15044 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:03:38 -0700 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA21540 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:03:35 -0700 env-from (oliver@aec.at) Received: (from oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) id SAA18891; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:02:10 +0200 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:02:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Miguel de Icaza cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: "unable to handle kernel paging request" at boot In-Reply-To: <199708211605.LAA08758@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 868 Lines: 32 hello, now i put r4k_show_regs() right after printk(KERN_ALERT "Unable to handle.." into fault.c and get the following output (using kernel linux-970704, btw :) $0 : 00000000 1004fc00 00000010 00000000 $1 : 00000010 00000000 1fffffff 00000000 $2 : 89f772b8 00000000 00000000 00000000 $12: 00000008 00000282 88368038 1004fc01 $16: 89f77000 8811d2f8 00000005 8810317c $20: bfb34000 bfbd4000 00000003 00000000 $24: 00000000 0000000f $28: 566a6ead 89f91da0 00000001 880d8f04 epc : 880d8f24 Status: 1004fc03 Cause : 1000000c my System.map shows this: 880d8d74 t sgiseeq_set_multicast 880d8d7c T sgiseeq_init 880d9084 T sgiseeq_probe gdb disas this: 0x880d8f18 : move $v1,$a3 0x880d8f1c : addu $v0,$a3,$a0 0x880d8f20 : and $v0,$v0,$a2 0x880d8f24 : sw $v0,8($v1) dunno if that helps :) o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Aug 23 10:55:01 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA527440; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA27339 for linux-list; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:54:43 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA27334 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:54:40 -0700 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA21316 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:54:39 -0700 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA15897; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:54:36 +0200 (MEST) From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199708231754.TAA15897@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA08318; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:54:35 +0200 Subject: Re: Kernel compile errors... To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:54:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199708231606.MAA02843@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Aug 23, 97 12:06:02 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 624 Lines: 16 > Thus spake Ralf Baechle: > > Check the version number and file dates. Compare with current version and > > date. Conclusion? ;-) > > My binutils include: > -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 193440 Sep 20 1996 mips-linux-as > and the tar ball matches the one on linus. Ditto for GCC. > > And I get the same errors as Alex and the others. Are there newer > versions? If so, where the heck are they? Well, I've never build binaries of newer versions for Intel. Since right now my Indy is 10000km away and my workhorse is a Pentium I'll publish updates as soon as I'm finished with some more urgent things. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Aug 27 13:41:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA905060; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA23762 for linux-list; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:41:28 -0700 Received: from neteng.engr.sgi.com (neteng.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA23755 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:41:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (lm@localhost) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA905401 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708272041.NAA905401@neteng.engr.sgi.com> To: linux@neteng.engr.sgi.com Subject: FYI Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:41:25 -0700 From: Larry McVoy Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 44 Lines: 1 http://wwww.wired.com/wired/5.08/linux.html From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 28 17:17:00 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA63810; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA01447 for linux-list; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:16:33 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA01431; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:16:30 -0700 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca ([205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA13464; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:16:19 -0700 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA10404; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 20:14:13 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199708290014.UAA10404@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: bogomips lives To: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon), linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux/SGI list) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 20:14:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 717 Lines: 16 My Indy is sitting on my desk right now, begging for me to drop Linux on it. Many, _many_ thanks to Ariel and David for whatever magic they had to invoke to get it through customs. I've got to run now, but I'll get Linux on it tomorrow. And then the fun _really_ begins. Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Ingenia Communications Corporation #> Resident Linux bigot and kernel hacker. (OOPS!) #> `If you get bitten by a bug, tough luck...the one thing I won't do #> is feel sorry for you. In fact, I might ask you to do it all over #> again, just to get more information. I'm a heartless bastard.' #> -- Linus Torvalds (on development kernels)