From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 1 19:09:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA222759 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:09:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA17041 for linux-list; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:08:40 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA17026 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:08:38 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id TAA05763 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:08:33 -0800 env-from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From dizzy With LocalMail ; Fri, 2 Jan 98 14:08:28 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: SGI/Linux mailing list Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 03:08:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: andrewo@dizzy.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Subject: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1194 Lines: 29 A Happy New Year to you all ! Anybody there who has a 4600 _without_ a L2 cache or who has a fairly stable source tree and feels like sparing a few CPU cycles for a kernel compile, this would be much appreciated if you could send me the binary kernel. I need to do some benchmarking on a SGI/Linux platform (an INDY) and I haven't been able to set up the cross-compilation environment correctly due to many factors. The benchmarks are needed by mid next week, so this is a kinda urgent call for help :) There is no non-standard bits and pieces - it just need the standard scsi, ethernet, and serial drivers. Attached is a config file for version 2.1.74 if anybody needs it. Again, thanks for your help and I hope (and pray ;) to hear from someone soon. cya ___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \___ "finger -l andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ___/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 1 21:37:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA229919 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:37:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA28377 for linux-list; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:36:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA28348 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:36:39 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA23408 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:36:38 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA24680; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:37:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: "Andrew O'Brien" cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 376 Lines: 11 On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > I need to do some benchmarking on a SGI/Linux platform (an INDY) and I > haven't been able to set up the cross-compilation environment correctly > due to many factors. The benchmarks are needed by mid next week, so this > is a kinda urgent call for help :) Is there any reason the binaries on ftp.linux.sgi.com won't work? - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 1 23:01:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA234061 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:01:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA04210 for linux-list; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:00:14 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA04205 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:00:13 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id XAA04288 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:00:10 -0800 env-from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From dizzy With LocalMail ; Fri, 2 Jan 98 17:59:55 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: Alex deVries Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 06:59:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: andrewo@dizzy.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1106 Lines: 26 On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > I need to do some benchmarking on a SGI/Linux platform (an INDY) and I > > haven't been able to set up the cross-compilation environment correctly > > due to many factors. The benchmarks are needed by mid next week, so this > > is a kinda urgent call for help :) > > Is there any reason the binaries on ftp.linux.sgi.com won't work? Yep - they were compiled assuming that a L2 cache was present - hence when it tries to flush the cache during init, the system hangs horribly. I wasn't the only one to be hit by this so I'm sure there is a binary floating around somewhere :) cya ___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \___ "finger -l andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ___/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 2 07:10:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA258585 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:10:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA12184 for linux-list; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:09:12 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA12179 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:09:11 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA08604 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:09:08 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04430 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:08:16 -0500 From: "Michael Hill" Message-Id: <9801021008.ZM4428@mdhill.interlog.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:08:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Andrew O'Brien" "Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap" (Jan 2, 6:59am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1460 Lines: 43 Ralf discovered and corrected this in his kernel source after several of us had problems with his last publicly-available Indy kernel binary (8 December). Since then no kernel binary or source has been posted to ftp.linux.sgi.com (except linux-magnum-971229.tar.gz on 29 December). Maybe the fix is part of what Ralf wanted help with before Christmas. On Dec 21, 5:45pm, Ralf Baechle wrote: > Subject: Mergeback > Hi, > > can anybody else work a bit on merging things back to Linus for the > next couple of days? I wont have very much time :-( > > Ralf >-- End of excerpt from Ralf Baechle On Jan 2, 6:59am, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap > On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > > I need to do some benchmarking on a SGI/Linux platform (an INDY) and I > > > haven't been able to set up the cross-compilation environment correctly > > > due to many factors. The benchmarks are needed by mid next week, so this > > > is a kinda urgent call for help :) > > > > Is there any reason the binaries on ftp.linux.sgi.com won't work? > > Yep - they were compiled assuming that a L2 cache was present - hence when > it tries to flush the cache during init, the system hangs horribly. > > I wasn't the only one to be hit by this so I'm sure there is a binary > floating around somewhere :) > -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 2 09:57:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA272322 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:57:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA03447 for linux-list; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:56:51 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA03441; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:56:49 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA36833; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801021756.JAA36833@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap To: mike@mdhill.interlog.com (Michael Hill) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:56:49 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9801021008.ZM4428@mdhill.interlog.com> from "Michael Hill" at Jan 2, 98 10:08:13 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1194 Lines: 40 Important change to the SGI/Linux FTP site: I just moved the CVS source tree hierarchy so it can be accessed via ftp: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/cvs/ There's also a link from the web site to this (software page) http://www.linux.sgi.com/software.html This should enable anyone to compile a good kernel from scratch. Whoever has a stable kernel that works on a L2-cache-less 4600 please share. I'll gladly give this person ssh access to linus. -- Peace, Ariel : :Ralf discovered and corrected this in his kernel source after several of us had :problems with his last publicly-available Indy kernel binary (8 December). : Since then no kernel binary or source has been posted to ftp.linux.sgi.com :(except linux-magnum-971229.tar.gz on 29 December). Maybe the fix is part of :what Ralf wanted help with before Christmas. : :On Dec 21, 5:45pm, Ralf Baechle wrote: :> Subject: Mergeback :> Hi, :> :> can anybody else work a bit on merging things back to Linus for the :> next couple of days? I wont have very much time :-( :> :> Ralf :>-- End of excerpt from Ralf Baechle : :On Jan 2, 6:59am, Andrew O'Brien wrote: :> Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 3 11:01:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA43583 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:01:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA01041 for linux-list; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:00:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA00979; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:00:07 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA11498; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:00:05 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03659; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:00:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01569; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980103195705.16061@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:57:05 +0100 To: Ariel Faigon Cc: Michael Hill , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Please help - need a 4600 no L2 cache kernel asap References: <9801021008.ZM4428@mdhill.interlog.com> <199801021756.JAA36833@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801021756.JAA36833@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Fri, Jan 02, 1998 at 09:56:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 631 Lines: 21 On Fri, Jan 02, 1998 at 09:56:49AM -0800, Ariel Faigon wrote: > Important change to the SGI/Linux FTP site: > > I just moved the CVS source tree hierarchy so it can be > accessed via ftp: > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/cvs/ > > There's also a link from the web site to this (software page) > http://www.linux.sgi.com/software.html > > This should enable anyone to compile a good kernel from scratch. > > Whoever has a stable kernel that works on a L2-cache-less 4600 > please share. I'll gladly give this person ssh access to linus. I've fixed the problem and a couple cache thingies before xmas. Will upload asap. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 3 19:11:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA365474 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:11:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA12675 for linux-list; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:10:47 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA12669 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:10:45 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA12276 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:10:43 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-28.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.28]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01034 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:10:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA02992; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:06:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19980104040647.51337@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:06:47 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: libc binaries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 135 Lines: 4 I've replaced the little endian libc binaries with newer ones. They are now based on the same sources as the big endian ones. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 4 16:02:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA381805 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:02:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA23756 for linux-list; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:01:24 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA23751 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:01:22 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA09706 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:01:21 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21642 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:01:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA00761; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: <19980105005819.33699@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:58:19 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Libc 2.0.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 145 Lines: 5 FYI: I've commited the upgrade to glibc 2.0.6 into the CVS. So far the new libc looks good but it hasn't yet been tested into deepth ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 09:47:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA393289 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:47:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA23195 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:46:31 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA23183 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:46:29 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA12616 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:46:28 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:46:22 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xpGbK-002OhsC; Mon, 5 Jan 98 18:46 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id SAA02852; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:45:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:45:10 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: gcc -shared ... -lc ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1173 Lines: 31 Hi, while compiling redhat 5.0 rpms, I've found something very strange, when building shared libraries. Some of the built shared libs are very big and a nm on them shows, that the whole libc (I guess so) is included. Binaries inked against these library just dump core. The built line for these shared libs always ends with a -lc. Now I'm wondering wether this is a ld bug or just a user error. What's really weird is the following patch from one of the redhat rpms: --- termcap-2.0.8/Makefile.ewt Tue Jul 8 11:08:00 1997 +++ termcap-2.0.8/Makefile Tue Jul 8 11:08:12 1997 @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ $(SHARED_LIB): $(OBJS) cd pic; \ - $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) + $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) -lc pic: -if [ ! -d pic ]; then mkdir pic; fi So it looks like the ld for alpha and i386 don't include the whole libc when linked with the comand line above. Any hints ? Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 10:06:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA395255 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:06:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA28680 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:03:36 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA28623 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:03:27 -0800 Received: from mail.cobaltmicro.com ([209.19.61.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA20913 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:03:20 -0800 env-from (tim@caddyshack.cobaltmicro.com) Received: from caddyshack.cobaltmicro.com (caddyshack.cobaltmicro.com [209.19.61.17]) by mail.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18532; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:10:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Timothy Stonis To: linux-mips@fnet.fr cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? In-Reply-To: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 41 This is a bug in binutils. I think it is fixed in version 2.8.1. Ralf is more familiar with the problem. _Tim On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > Hi, > > while compiling redhat 5.0 rpms, I've found something very strange, when > building shared libraries. Some of the built shared libs are very big and > a nm on them shows, that the whole libc (I guess so) is included. Binaries > inked against these library just dump core. The built line for these shared > libs always ends with a -lc. Now I'm wondering wether this is a ld bug or > just a user error. What's really weird is the following patch from one > of the redhat rpms: > > --- termcap-2.0.8/Makefile.ewt Tue Jul 8 11:08:00 1997 > +++ termcap-2.0.8/Makefile Tue Jul 8 11:08:12 1997 > @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ > > $(SHARED_LIB): $(OBJS) > cd pic; \ > - $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) > + $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) -lc > > pic: > -if [ ! -d pic ]; then mkdir pic; fi > > So it looks like the ld for alpha and i386 don't include the whole libc > when linked with the comand line above. Any hints ? > > Thomas. > > -- > See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, > you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) > [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 11:41:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA401772 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:41:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA04096 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:40:07 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA04017 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:40:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA12544 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:40:00 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee Reply-To: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: linux-971208: problems with compilation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 29657 Lines: 432 trying to setup the cross compile under irix6.5 and trying to compile, first came up with the problem of not finding some include files and failing the make depend ... then if I included the pointer to /usr/include it went head and compiled .. but came up with the following errors .. Any suggestion for dealing with them are WELCOME .. sched.c:314: warning: `timerlist_lock' defined but not used In file included from /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/asm/uaccess.h:17, from mem.c:25: /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/asm/asm.h:96: warning: `ABS' redefined /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/ftape.h:205: warning: this is the location of the previous definition No such feature exists (-5,116) pc_keyb.c: In function `kbd_wait_for_input': pc_keyb.c:57: warning: unused variable `n' pc_keyb.c: In function `initialize_kbd': pc_keyb.c:189: warning: implicit declaration of function `disable_irq' pc_keyb.c:191: warning: implicit declaration of function `enable_irq' pcnet32.c: In function `pcnet32_probe1': pcnet32.c:324: warning: passing arg 1 makes integer from pointer without a cast pcnet32.c: In function `pcnet32_start_xmit': pcnet32.c:638: warning: passing arg 1 makes integer from pointer without a cast pcnet32.c: In function `pcnet32_rx': pcnet32.c:850: warning: passing arg 1 makes integer from pointer without a cast pcnet32.c:816: warning: `pkt_len' might be used uninitialized in this function pcnet32.c:817: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function pcnet32.c:843: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function pcnet32.c:844: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c: In function `sonic_rx': sonic.c:591: warning: `status' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:595: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:596: warning: `pkt_len' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:597: warning: `pkt_ptr' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:621: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:622: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function sonic.c:622: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function swapfile.c: In function `sys_swapon': swapfile.c:610: warning: passing arg 1 makes integer from pointer without a cast file.c: In function `fat_file_read': file.c:179: warning: unsigned int format, umode_t arg (arg 2) file.c: In function `fat_file_write': file.c:297: warning: unsigned int format, umode_t arg (arg 2) inode.c: In function `fat_read_super': inode.c:457: warning: int format, uid_t arg (arg 5) inode.c:457: warning: int format, gid_t arg (arg 6) generic.c: In function `remove_proc_entry': generic.c:302: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 2) generic.c:302: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 3) inode.c: In function `nfs_refresh_inode': inode.c:633: warning: unsigned int format, umode_t arg (arg 3) file.c: In function `nfs_file_read': file.c:117: warning: long unsigned int format, size_t arg (arg 4) file.c: In function `nfs_file_write': file.c:170: warning: long unsigned int format, size_t arg (arg 5) file.c:187: warning: unsigned int format, umode_t arg (arg 2) dir.c: In function `nfs_invalidate_dircache': dir.c:317: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 2) dir.c: In function `nfs_dentry_delete': dir.c:445: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 6) nfsfh.c: In function `fh_verify': nfsfh.c:1012: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 2) nfsfh.c: In function `fh_compose': nfsfh.c:1093: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 2) export.c: In function `exp_export': export.c:168: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 4) export.c: In function `exp_rootfh': export.c:396: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 3) export.c:410: warning: unsigned int format, dev_t arg (arg 2) svc.c: In function `lockd_down': svc.c:285: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) nls_base.c: In function `load_nls': nls_base.c:209: warning: unused variable `ret' nls_base.c:208: warning: unused variable `buf' nls_cp850.c:250: warning: `charset2upper' defined but not used nls_iso8859-1.c:138: warning: `charset2upper' defined but not used skbuff.c: In function `skb_copy': skbuff.c:269: warning: `offset' might be used uninitialized in this function skbuff.c: In function `skb_realloc_headroom': skbuff.c:319: warning: `offset' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c: In function `unix_stream_connect1': af_unix.c:625: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:684: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:689: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:694: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:297: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c: In function `unix_dgram_sendmsg': af_unix.c:907: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:939: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:952: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:962: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:968: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:973: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:297: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c: In function `unix_stream_sendmsg': af_unix.c:988: warning: `size' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:989: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1061: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1061: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1068: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1068: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1074: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function af_unix.c:1081: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:297: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function proc.c: In function `get__openreq': proc.c:71: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 14) proc.c: In function `get__sock': proc.c:122: warning: int format, long int arg (arg 14) packet.c: In function `packet_sendmsg': packet.c:117: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function packet.c:118: warning: `dev' might be used uninitialized in this function packet.c:184: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function packet.c:185: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function packet.c:209: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_fragment.c: In function `ip_glue': ip_fragment.c:307: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_fragment.c:310: warning: `ptr' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_fragment.c:332: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_fragment.c:347: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h: In function `ip_forward': /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h: In function `ip_build_pkt': /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h: In function `ip_build_header': /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c: In function `ip_queue_xmit': ip_output.c:348: warning: `tot_len' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:404: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c: In function `ip_build_xmit': ip_output.c:495: warning: `fraglen' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:495: warning: `maxfraglen' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:495: warning: `fragheaderlen' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:497: warning: `offset' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:497: warning: `mf' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:498: warning: `id' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c: In function `ip_fragment': ip_output.c:787: warning: `ptr' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:789: warning: `skb2' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:790: warning: `mtu' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:790: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:791: warning: `offset' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:792: warning: `not_last_frag' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:793: warning: `dont_fragment' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:880: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:891: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c: In function `ip_reply': ip_output.c:954: warning: `reply' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:955: warning: `iphlen' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:959: warning: `daddr' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:982: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:76: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:77: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:992: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function ip_output.c:992: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c: In function `tcp_append_tail': tcp.c:749: warning: `copy' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:761: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c: In function `tcp_do_sendmsg': tcp.c:803: warning: `seglen' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:804: warning: `from' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:810: warning: `copy' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:812: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:933: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:940: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:952: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp.c:952: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c: In function `tcp_fragment': tcp_output.c:209: warning: `buff' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:232: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:237: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:263: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:273: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:376: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c: In function `tcp_retrans_try_collapse': tcp_output.c:583: warning: `th2' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:584: warning: `size1' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:584: warning: `size2' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:605: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h: In function `tcp_send_fin': /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c: In function `tcp_send_synack': tcp_output.c:838: warning: `th' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:874: warning: `mss' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:874: warning: `sack' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:874: warning: `ts' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:874: warning: `offer_wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:874: warning: `wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:615: warning: `count' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:616: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c: In function `tcp_send_ack': tcp_output.c:936: warning: `buff' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:968: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:972: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c: In function `tcp_write_wakeup': tcp_output.c:998: warning: `buff' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:1040: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:1061: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_output.c:1065: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c: In function `tcp_v4_connect': tcp_ipv4.c:488: warning: `buff' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:491: warning: `th' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:569: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:574: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `mss' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `sack' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `ts' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `offer_wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:617: warning: `wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:615: warning: `count' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:616: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:616: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:637: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:297: warning: `newsk' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c: In function `tcp_v4_send_reset': tcp_ipv4.c:916: warning: `skb1' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:926: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c: In function `tcp_v4_send_synack': tcp_ipv4.c:982: warning: `th' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:984: warning: `mss' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1045: warning: `mss' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1045: warning: `sack' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1045: warning: `ts' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1045: warning: `offer_wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1045: warning: `wscale' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:615: warning: `count' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/tcp.h:616: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function tcp_ipv4.c:1050: warning: `th' might be used uninitialized in this function arp.c: In function `arp_send': arp.c:1243: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function arp.c:1265: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function arp.c:1266: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function igmp.c: In function `igmp_send_report': igmp.c:249: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function igmp.c:265: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function igmp.c:266: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:157: warning: `hh_len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:156: warning: `hh' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/net/route.h:164: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function igmp.c:268: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function igmp.c:286: warning: `skb' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/linux/skbuff.h:425: warning: `tmp' might be used uninitialized in this function sched.c: In function `rpciod': sched.c:754: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) sched.c: In function `rpciod_up': sched.c:821: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) sched.c: In function `rpciod_down': sched.c:853: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) sched.c:858: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) sched.c:880: warning: int format, pid_t arg (arg 2) auth_unix.c: In function `authunix_fake_cred': auth_unix.c:104: warning: int format, uid_t arg (arg 2) auth_unix.c:104: warning: int format, gid_t arg (arg 3) setup.c: In function `jazz_setup': setup.c:101: warning: implicit declaration of function `add_wired_entry' io.c:47: warning: `sni_readb' defined but not used io.c:60: warning: `sni_readw' defined but not used io.c:73: warning: `sni_readl' defined but not used io.c:86: warning: `sni_writeb' defined but not used io.c:95: warning: `sni_writew' defined but not used io.c:104: warning: `sni_writel' defined but not used io.c:113: warning: `sni_memset_io' defined but not used io.c:133: warning: `sni_memcpy_fromio' defined but not used io.c:154: warning: `sni_memcpy_toio' defined but not used /usr/linux/linux-971208/include/asm/floppy.h:98: warning: `FDC2' defined but not used ptrace.c: In function `sys_ptrace': ptrace.c:254: warning: `res' might be used uninitialized in this function checksum.c: In function `csum_partial_copy_from_user': checksum.c:121: warning: unused variable `dst_err_ptr' dump_tlb.c: In function `dump_tlb': dump_tlb.c:83: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 3) dump_tlb.c:83: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 4) dump_tlb.c:83: warning: int format, different type arg (arg 8) dump_tlb.c:83: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 9) dump_tlb.c:83: warning: int format, different type arg (arg 13) dump_tlb.c: At top level: dump_tlb.c:23: warning: `cache_map' defined but not used drivers/char/char.a(vt.o): In function `vt_ioctl': vt.c(.text+0x92c): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0x934): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0x9bc): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0x9c0): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0xa00): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xa04): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xa0c): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xa10): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xa84): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0xa8c): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0xa98): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xa9c): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xb04): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0xb0c): undefined reference to `key_maps' vt.c(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xb30): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xb38): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xb3c): undefined reference to `keymap_count' vt.c(.text+0xc60): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xc68): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xce0): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xce4): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xce8): undefined reference to `func_table' drivers/char/char.a(vt.o)(.text+0xcf0):vt.c: more undefined references to `func_table' follow drivers/char/char.a(vt.o): In function `vt_ioctl': vt.c(.text+0xcf4): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xcf8): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xcfc): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xd00): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xd04): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xd08): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xd78): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xd84): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xdb0): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xdb4): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xde0): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xde4): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xe1c): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xe24): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xe28): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xe2c): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xe38): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xe3c): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xe84): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xe8c): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xe90): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xe94): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xeb8): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xebc): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xec0): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xec4): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xefc): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf00): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf28): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf2c): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf30): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xf34): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xf64): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf68): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf6c): undefined reference to `func_buf' vt.c(.text+0xf70): undefined reference to `func_buf' vt.c(.text+0xf7c): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xf84): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xf88): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xf8c): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xf90): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xf94): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xf98): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xf9c): undefined reference to `funcbufptr' vt.c(.text+0xfa0): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xfa4): undefined reference to `funcbufsize' vt.c(.text+0xfb4): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xfb8): undefined reference to `funcbufleft' vt.c(.text+0xfc4): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0xfcc): undefined reference to `func_table' vt.c(.text+0x101c): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' vt.c(.text+0x1020): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' vt.c(.text+0x1030): undefined reference to `accent_table' vt.c(.text+0x1034): undefined reference to `accent_table' vt.c(.text+0x108c): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' vt.c(.text+0x1090): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' vt.c(.text+0x1094): undefined reference to `accent_table' vt.c(.text+0x1098): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.a(keyboard.o): In function `handle_scancode': keyboard.c(.text+0x328): undefined reference to `key_maps' keyboard.c(.text+0x330): undefined reference to `key_maps' keyboard.c(.text+0x334): undefined reference to `key_maps' keyboard.c(.text+0x33c): undefined reference to `key_maps' drivers/char/char.a(keyboard.o): In function `handle_diacr': keyboard.c(.text+0xcfc): undefined reference to `accent_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xd08): undefined reference to `accent_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xd0c): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' keyboard.c(.text+0xd10): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' keyboard.c(.text+0xd28): undefined reference to `accent_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xd30): undefined reference to `accent_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xd3c): undefined reference to `accent_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xd44): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.a(keyboard.o): In function `do_fn': keyboard.c(.text+0xdcc): undefined reference to `func_table' keyboard.c(.text+0xdd4): undefined reference to `func_table' drivers/char/char.a(keyboard.o): In function `compute_shiftstate': keyboard.c(.text+0x113c): undefined reference to `plain_map' keyboard.c(.text+0x1140): undefined reference to `plain_map' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 13:15:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA414319 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:15:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA00335 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:12:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA00323 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:12:37 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA01965 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:12:35 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-07.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.7]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18590 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:12:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA02836; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:09:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19980105220916.59435@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:09:16 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? References: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 06:45:10PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1635 Lines: 42 On Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 06:45:10PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > while compiling redhat 5.0 rpms, I've found something very strange, when > building shared libraries. Some of the built shared libs are very big and > a nm on them shows, that the whole libc (I guess so) is included. Binaries > inked against these library just dump core. The built line for these shared > libs always ends with a -lc. Now I'm wondering wether this is a ld bug or > just a user error. What's really weird is the following patch from one > of the redhat rpms: > > --- termcap-2.0.8/Makefile.ewt Tue Jul 8 11:08:00 1997 > +++ termcap-2.0.8/Makefile Tue Jul 8 11:08:12 1997 > @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ > > $(SHARED_LIB): $(OBJS) > cd pic; \ > - $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) > + $(CC) -shared -o ../$@ -Wl,-soname,$(SONAME_SHARED_LIB) $(OBJS) -lc > > pic: > -if [ ! -d pic ]; then mkdir pic; fi The code of libtermcap.so contains dependencies of the libc version it was compiled with, that's why it has to be linked against libc. Most old libraries were not linked against libc. This became a problem when with the introduction of libc6 the case of having multiple libc linked into a program had to be handled. For example: vi |--> libtermcap.so.2 |--> libc.so.6 |--> libc.so.5 The of course only work right when libtermcap has been linked against libc. > So it looks like the ld for alpha and i386 don't include the whole libc > when linked with the comand line above. Any hints ? This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 13:36:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA415468 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:36:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA07498 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:35:50 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA07493 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:35:49 -0800 Received: from caf1.caf.wvu.edu (caf1.caf.wvu.edu [157.182.4.65]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA08095 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:35:46 -0800 env-from (dfrasnel@caf1.caf.wvu.edu) Received: by caf1.caf.wvu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA15879; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:35:44 -0500 From: dfrasnel@caf1.caf.wvu.edu (Daniel Frasnelli) Message-Id: <199801052135.QAA15879@caf1.caf.wvu.edu> Subject: Linux/SGI status req. To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:35:44 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 925 Lines: 16 Greetings, Just joined this list, and would like to know how far Linux/SGI has progressed past the November status update. Specifically, I would like to know if the X server is working and usable (ie. the mouse is supported), and whether Xsgi or the XF86 server is being used. I noticed an rpm of maplay (an MPEG audio player) on the main ftp site - is there now an audio driver, and does it support /dev/audio, midi synth., etc.? Thanks, and cheers, Daniel -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Daniel J Frasnelli Forest ecology student | | College of Agriculture and Forestry GIS/Remote Sensing enthusiast | | West Virginia University Backpacker extraordinaire | | http://www.caf.wvu.edu/cafresrch/index.html | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 15:19:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA409829 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:19:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA14651 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:17:26 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA14639 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:17:24 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA09600 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:17:23 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:17:21 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xpLli-002OhsC; Tue, 6 Jan 98 00:17 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA04549; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:16:21 +0100 Message-ID: <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:16:19 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? References: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de> <19980105220916.59435@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980105220916.59435@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Mon, Jan 05, 1998 at 10:09:16PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 434 Lines: 13 > > So it looks like the ld for alpha and i386 don't include the whole libc > > when linked with the comand line above. Any hints ? > > This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. this is with binutils-2.8.1 Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 5 15:51:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA422621 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:51:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA23945 for linux-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:57 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA23932 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:56 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA18767 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:52 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA26338; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:47:52 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xpMZT-0005FsC; Tue, 6 Jan 98 00:08 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de> from "Thomas Bogendoerfer" at Jan 6, 98 00:16:19 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 284 Lines: 8 > > This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. > > this is with binutils-2.8.1 Oh good its not me seeing things. Ralf - could there be two sets of your binutils-2.8.1 one working one not and could you maybe post MD5 hashes of your binaries you know work ? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 13:22:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA466809 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:22:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA06540 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:22:00 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA06530 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:21:58 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA24183 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:21:56 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22583 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:21:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03844; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:33:03 +0100 Message-ID: <19980106103147.49369@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:31:47 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? References: <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:08:38AM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 696 Lines: 18 On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:08:38AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. > > > > this is with binutils-2.8.1 > > Oh good its not me seeing things. Ralf - could there be two sets of your > binutils-2.8.1 one working one not and could you maybe post MD5 hashes > of your binaries you know work ? Right now I suspect a packaging problem because for me everything is working fine. Maybe one of you could verify that it's actually the ld from binutils 2.8.1 that is installed on your systems rsp. contained in the packages you've used to install? Check the output of ``ld -v''. I'll post the MD5 sums later when I return home. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 05:11:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA445190 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:11:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA19645 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:11:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA19636 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:11:18 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id FAA14617 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:11:16 -0800 env-from (conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From bell07 With LocalMail ; Wed, 7 Jan 98 00:10:54 +1100 From: Conrad Parker To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:10:33 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: conradp@bell07.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: "Andrew John O'Brien" Subject: i386 crosscompile problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1623 Lines: 47 Hi, we're attempting to cross-compile a bootstrap kernel for an r4600 indy with no L2 cache, from an i386-linux box. We have had most success so far with kernel snapshot 971208 from ftp.linux.sgi.com, patched to work with no L2 cache. We have built binutils-2.8.1.0.15 patched with the binutils-2.8.1-1 patch, and using the gcc cross compiler 2.7.2-3 binary release (rpm). When compiling the kernel, we get lots of mips-linux-ld warnings along the lines of: mips-linux-ld: Warning: type of symbol 'prom_imode' changed from 1 to 2 in misc.o for lots of symbols in lots of object files... Everything seems to compile fine, without excessive other warnings from gcc and the native mips code passes through without a hitch. When the resulting kernel is used from bootp, we get the following dump immediately: Exception: Status register: 0x10004801 Cause register: 0x801c Exception PC: 0x9fc31f20, Exception RA: 0x88018d04 Data Bus error Local I/O interrupt register 1: 0x80 Saved user regs in hex (&gpda 0xa8740e48, &_regs 0xa8741048): arg: f 8800bde0 8800253c 80000200 tmp: 8800253c 34392e31 0 33000000 0 37312e32 32352e36 8812b130 sve: 20 a87ff234 a87498d4 a87ff53c a8747420 9fc56394 0 9fc56394 t8 0 t9 9fc20260 at 8816003c v0 80000080 v1 8800bde0 k1 bad11bad gp 0 fp 9fc4de88 sp 88009f88 ra 88018d04 PANIC: Unexpected exception ouch. We expect the problem is with our configuration of binutils and/or gcc. Can anyone help? K. -- Conrad Parker conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au Linux Life: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~conradp/linux/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 06:59:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA451752 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:59:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA28875 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:58:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA28863 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:58:13 -0800 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA03688 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:58:11 -0800 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19542; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:53:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:53:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199801061453.IAA19542@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy power supply problems. X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 460 Lines: 14 My Indy is not behaving. The power supply seems to be damaged: if I turn it on shortly after this the machine will turn itself off. I need to unplug the machine for a couple of minutes before trying again to turn it again. It can not even boot completely, it shuts down before. Is it possible to change the power supply with the power supply from a PC? The power supply box does not seem to be openable (or I have not found the screws for it). Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 07:28:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA457060 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:28:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA02492 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:26:26 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA02487 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:26:21 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id HAA09975 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:26:19 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:26:14 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xpatD-002OhsC; Tue, 6 Jan 98 16:25 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA00432; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19980106162106.28163@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:21:06 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Alan Cox Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? References: <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:08:38AM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1212 Lines: 37 On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:08:38AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. > > > > this is with binutils-2.8.1 > > Oh good its not me seeing things. Ralf - could there be two sets of your > binutils-2.8.1 one working one not and could you maybe post MD5 hashes > of your binaries you know work ? I'm using the little endian rpm from ftp.linux.sgi.com. Here is the md5sum: bce052ce002cbe434133cecf2c4a4f10 binutils-2.8.1-1.mips.rpm and: Linux mips.franken.de 2.1.72 #140 Sat Jan 3 23:43:04 MET 1998 mips [root@mips /root]# ld --version GNU ld 2.8.1 Copyright 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. This program has absolutely no warranty. Supported emulations: elf32lmip elf32bmip mipslit mipsbig I'm sure the binutils 2.7, I've used before, didn't have the bug. But I wanted to make the redhat-5.0 rpms with the newer binutils. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 09:52:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA457873 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:52:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA03060 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:50:29 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA03018; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:50:18 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA18993; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:50:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:50:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199801061750.JAA18993@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. In-Reply-To: <199801061453.IAA19542@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> References: <199801061453.IAA19542@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 996 Lines: 22 Miguel de Icaza writes: > > My Indy is not behaving. > > The power supply seems to be damaged: if I turn it on shortly after > this the machine will turn itself off. I need to unplug the machine > for a couple of minutes before trying again to turn it again. > > It can not even boot completely, it shuts down before. > > Is it possible to change the power supply with the power supply from a > PC? The power supply box does not seem to be openable (or I have not > found the screws for it). The power supply is unique to the Indy, includes the control switches (power, reset, volume control) and the speaker. Normally the field repair is to replace the power supply. It is possible, however, that some other failure is responsible. In particular, the Dallas clock/calendar chip includes the autopower control logic, so it would be possible for a failure there to tell the power supply to turn off. Perhaps Ariel would know the repair arrangements for your system. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 10:19:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA457885 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:19:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA10535 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:16:21 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA10520; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:16:19 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA52967; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801061816.KAA52967@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. To: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com (William J. Earl) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:16:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801061750.JAA18993@fir.engr.sgi.com> from "William J. Earl" at Jan 6, 98 09:50:17 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 731 Lines: 22 Bill Earl wrote: : :Miguel de Icaza writes: : > : > My Indy is not behaving. : > :there to tell the power supply to turn off. Perhaps Ariel would know the :repair arrangements for your system. : All the developer's Indys that we donated are SGI machines that have a support contract. The procedure is to call the local support office with the ID of the machine (the long number on the back) and get a field person to replace the part that needs replacement. I believe Alan's monitor was replaced in this way recently. Miguel: please call your local office and request replacement of the power supply (most probable) If this doesn't work, they should be able to replace any part up to the whole motherboard. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 12:19:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA455825 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:19:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA20494 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:18:30 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA20485 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:18:28 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA05804 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:18:26 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:18:23 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xpfRx-002Og1C; Tue, 6 Jan 98 21:18 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA01497; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:11:54 +0100 Message-ID: <19980106211154.11378@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:11:54 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: gcc -shared ... -lc ? References: <19980105184510.65220@alpha.franken.de> <19980105220916.59435@uni-koblenz.de> <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980106001619.35362@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:16:19AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 751 Lines: 21 On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 12:16:19AM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > > So it looks like the ld for alpha and i386 don't include the whole libc > > > when linked with the comand line above. Any hints ? > > > > This is a binutils 2.7 bug. Upgrading to 2.8.1 solves the problem. > > this is with binutils-2.8.1 Ok, I've found the problem. The installed binutils are 2.8.1, but the binutils gcc used were 2.7. They got used by gcc, because they were in /usr/mipsel-linux/bin. I've removed them and all works fine now. Sorry for the false alarm. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 12:19:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA461500 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:19:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA20828 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:19:24 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA20817; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:19:23 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA06022; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:19:20 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA16279; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:19:10 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xpfnT-0005FsC; Tue, 6 Jan 98 20:40 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:40:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801061816.KAA52967@oz.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Jan 6, 98 10:16:09 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 306 Lines: 9 > on the back) and get a field person to replace the part that > needs replacement. I believe Alan's monitor was replaced > in this way recently. Yes - it did take a bit of confusion and untangling but once they figured out what they were doing it was all very efficient Alan, still fighting binutils From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 12:49:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA463071 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:49:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA28464 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:48:27 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA28454; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:48:24 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA14067; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:48:20 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA25492; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:48:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, wje@fir.engr.sgi.com, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 645 Lines: 17 On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > Yes - it did take a bit of confusion and untangling but once they > figured out what they were doing it was all very efficient Hm. I got a call over the Christmas holidays from a Mr. Hu (I think) from SGI telling me that my machine is no longer under a service agreement. This comes as a contradiction from what I'd been told by several people at SGI. If this is true, it's not the end of the world; a smack at the back of my monitor seems to do the trick for now. I worry abit, though, if something like my power supply bites the dust. Can someone like Ariel or David set the record straight? - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 13:40:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA448755 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:40:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA12036 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:39:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA12018 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:39:35 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA29714 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:39:32 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23157 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:39:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA05095; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:36:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19980106223608.05738@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:36:08 +0100 To: Conrad Parker Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, "Andrew John O'Brien" Subject: Re: i386 crosscompile problems References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Conrad Parker on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 12:10:33AM +1100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1353 Lines: 34 On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 12:10:33AM +1100, Conrad Parker wrote: > we're attempting to cross-compile a bootstrap kernel for an r4600 indy > with no L2 cache, from an i386-linux box. We have had most success so far > with kernel snapshot 971208 from ftp.linux.sgi.com, patched to work with > no L2 cache. We have built binutils-2.8.1.0.15 patched with the > binutils-2.8.1-1 patch, and using the gcc cross compiler 2.7.2-3 binary > release (rpm). > > When compiling the kernel, we get lots of mips-linux-ld warnings along the > lines of: > > mips-linux-ld: Warning: type of symbol 'prom_imode' changed from 1 to 2 in > misc.o Post 2.8.1 binutils do harder typechecking. Those messages should actually be harmless warnings. Could you mail them to me so that I can fix them, please? > for lots of symbols in lots of object files... > Everything seems to compile fine, without excessive other warnings from > gcc and the native mips code passes through without a hitch. > > When the resulting kernel is used from bootp, we get the following dump > immediately: > ouch. We expect the problem is with our configuration of binutils and/or > gcc. Can anyone help? - apply the patch to the FSF version of binutils 2.8.1 (available from ftp.linux.sgi.com or prep.ai.mit.edu). - if the problem persists try removing the -N linker flag from -N Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 15:20:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA479192 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:20:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA13172 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:19:27 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA13153 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:19:22 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA01268 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:19:20 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-09.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.9]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26901 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:19:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05242; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: <19980107000546.28542@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:05:46 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Binutils ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 516 Lines: 12 After Thomas posted his analysis of his binutils bug I doublechecked the binutils binary package. It doesn't contain the arch directory because I used the RedHat spec file which (imho a superfluous attempt to be overly conforming to the FHS) explicitly build the binutils without the arch directory. I'll upload a fixed package shortly. Alan, what were your sympthoms again, did the built executables crash or the linker itself? I understood the later ... Oh, and a happy new year to you all out there! Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 17:34:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA520302 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:34:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA00313 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:33:03 -0800 Received: from odin.corp.sgi.com (odin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA00293; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:33:00 -0800 Received: from burrito.engr.sgi.com by odin.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) id QAA26753; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:32:20 -0800 Received: (from dkascht@localhost) by burrito.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA19307; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:28:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:28:44 -0800 From: dkascht@burrito.engr.sgi.com (David Kascht) Message-Id: <9801061628.ZM19305@burrito.engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Alex deVries "Re: Indy power supply problems." (Jan 6, 3:48pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Alex deVries , Alan Cox Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. Cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, wje@fir.engr.sgi.com, miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2436 Lines: 73 Hello All. All of the systems sent per Ariel's agreement with Todd Johnson regarding support of Linux development are owned by SGI. They are all current assets and should definately be completely supported by SGI as internally owned equipment. For systems residing in the US, either the user or I can call the Technical Assistance Center at 1.800.800.4744 to open a service call. For systems residing in a country other than the US, a service call must be opened with the local SGI office - as in the case of the repairs to Alan's monitor. Should anyone ask, I can be used as a contact for verifying that a given system is owned by SGI, and more specifically owned by my Director's department. My contact information is... David Kascht Silicon Graphics, Inc. 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd. Bldg.41U mailstop 827 Mountain View, CA 94043 Phone: +1.650.933.6569 Fax: +1.650.932.6569 E-mail: dkascht@engr.sgi.com All SGI representatives, regardless of country, should be able to contact me fairly easy. I apologize on behalf of SGI for any problems caused by our bureaucracies! Take care. David... ******************************************************************************* On Jan 6, 3:48pm, Alex deVries wrote: > Subject: Re: Indy power supply problems. > On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Yes - it did take a bit of confusion and untangling but once they > > figured out what they were doing it was all very efficient > > Hm. I got a call over the Christmas holidays from a Mr. Hu (I think) from > SGI telling me that my machine is no longer under a service agreement. > This comes as a contradiction from what I'd been told by several people at > SGI. > > If this is true, it's not the end of the world; a smack at the back of my > monitor seems to do the trick for now. I worry abit, though, if something > like my power supply bites the dust. > > Can someone like Ariel or David set the record straight? > > - A > > ----- End of forwarded message from Alex deVries ----- > > -- > Peace, Ariel >-- End of excerpt from Alex deVries -- ================================================================================ DAVID KASCHT Asset Manager Voice: 650.933.6569 Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Fax: 650.932.0026 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 827 E-Mail: dkascht@engr.sgi.com Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 ================================================================================ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 17:43:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA520343 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:42:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA05491 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:42:18 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA05479 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:42:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA16761 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:42:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:42:16 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: ok CVS question .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 678 Lines: 18 could someone point out, how to make a copy of the CVS tree from linus.linux.sgi.com from a machine that has ssh access .. looks like the other source trees that I am using are not really working .. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not a loser, just successfully challenged -- shm From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 6 21:30:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA525570 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:30:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA12685 for linux-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:29:38 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA12678; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:29:36 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA10269; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:29:34 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-28.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.28]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14368; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:29:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA06114; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:26:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19980107062608.35785@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 06:26:08 +0100 To: Shrijeet Mukherjee Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ok CVS question .. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Shrijeet Mukherjee on Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:42:16PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 359 Lines: 12 On Tue, Jan 06, 1998 at 05:42:16PM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: > could someone point out, how to make a copy of the CVS tree from > linus.linux.sgi.com from a machine that has ssh access .. > > looks like the other source trees that I am using are not really working > .. setenv CVS_RSH ssh cvs -d @linus.linux.sgi.com:/src/cvs co -P Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 7 20:41:11 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA603766 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:41:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA16476 for linux-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:37:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA16467 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:37:42 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA09868 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:37:40 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-05.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.5]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10952 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 05:37:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA07154; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:30:18 +0100 Message-ID: <19980107202902.00124@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:29:02 +0100 To: "K." Cc: "Andrew John O'Brien" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: r4600 no L2 cache kernel References: <19980107061739.06864@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from K. on Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 04:45:18PM +1100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1270 Lines: 27 On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 04:45:18PM +1100, K. wrote: > > I'm currently extremly overloaded by my job. Let me see if I can find > > time to do something for your before the weekend. > > thanks for the tip about patching the stock FSF binutils-2.8.1 - we > managed to get a kernel compiled without ld errors (as of about half an > hour ago) and now we're trying to get it to boot with the installer etc. > (It booted via bootp until some nfs errors, without going into a spin or > panic, so all is looking good - we're seeing if we can get it to boot > straight of disk before reconfiguring nfs, as we'll need to boot of disk > eventually...) > > Hopefully then we should be able to get it booting ourselves shortly. > Thanks for the offer, we'll be sure to let you know if we screw up and > need to make use of it! Btw, I took a closer look at the warnings that your binutils were generating. As it looks all binutils 2.x MIPS assemblers so far have the bug that they mark the symbolic reference to a undefined function as a reference to data. Your new linker now throws warnings for this. Don't worry about this bug, it shouldn't have any effect. The bug that was actually crashing the kernel when built with your linker version must be something else. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 8 12:09:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA670651 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:09:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA06289 for linux-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:05:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA06265 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:05:30 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA09960 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:05:25 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01562 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:05:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08045; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:00:43 +0100 Message-ID: <19980108090042.61431@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:00:42 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ld problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 116 Lines: 4 I fixed the reported ld problems and will whenever I find the time upload the stuff to the usual ftp sites. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 8 14:39:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA690509 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:39:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA24243 for linux-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:35:00 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA24228 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:34:55 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA00662 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:34:53 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.10]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07809 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:34:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01217; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:31:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19980108233142.45335@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:31:42 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: New binutils Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 922 Lines: 28 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, I've uploaded a new set of binutils to ftp.linux.sgi.com. They fix the packaging error that was causing trouble for people which were upgrading from binutils 2.7 to the rpm of binutils-2.8.1-1. It also contains the workaround for the GCC long long bug I reported some time ago and some other small things. Have fun ... Ralf 73ead44770a42b12edd435dc3f13bbef redhat/RPMS/mips-linux/binutils-2.8.1-2.mips.rpm f7e7d12ccc2644c534bef92a505ffc90 redhat/RPMS/mipsel-linux/binutils-2.8.1-2.mips.rpm 90ce3af0b610033107624b9050457e43 redhat/SRPMS/binutils-2.8.1-2.src.rpm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNLVTP0ckbl6vezDBAQGH2AP/XUlcj0CpgT53Kp1kDGZ7Qan0qIa6KT8A QN96DSFvcmHSV851gYPKJIIyT3cC5BKI7z7j/qH6bTSsZUFKwt4bsmZflP4IqfMe TKqAxl1SddNlurgZqhtDcg5zgk9qAXDDY8dvQN1TlyIG/2SiR9vb7KpwRvZiSYqf D1AQmKK72rI= =Omgn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 04:11:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA784705 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:11:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA20139 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:07:12 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA20129 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:07:07 -0800 Received: from zaphod.et.tudelft.nl (zaphod.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.38.84]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA29161 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:06:52 -0800 env-from (ednes@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl) Received: (from ednes@localhost) by zaphod.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01800; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:06:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199801091206.NAA01800@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl> Subject: fdisk for linux-sgi To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:06:46 +0100 (CET) Cc: E.Hakkennes@ET.TUDelft.NL (Edwin Hakkennes) From: Edwin Hakkennes Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 900 Lines: 22 Hi all, I'm trying to get an indy running Linux. I downloaded the Getting_started stuff, and unpacked it. All seems to be fine, except that I cannot find an fdisk program on this file-system. (root-be-0.01.cpio) My question is: How do I partition the disk. I have one, empty 2G disk on which only Linux should be installed. Is it neccesary to put the disk in a PC for partioning? Thanks a lot in advance, Edwin ======================================================================= Edwin Hakkennes || E.Hakkennes@et.tudelft.nl TU Delft (Delft University of Technology) || Fax +31 15 2784898 Department of Electrical Engineering || Phone +31 15 2786267 Mekelweg 4, 2628 CD Delft, The Netherlands || URL: http://cardit.et.tudelft.nl/~ednes || Room ET-HB 10.280 ======================================================================= From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 11:57:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA811322 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:57:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA18799 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:52:07 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA18762 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:52:02 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA01542 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:51:40 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA04959 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:54:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1503 Lines: 35 Now that I'm nicely settled back at work with my Indy, I've had a chance to get my system up to scratch with Ralf's latest glibc. Much better! gethostbbynam and such now work properly, so I can now build RPMs. I'm in the middle of churning out the RH 5.0 RPMs, and I'll upload them into a seperate directory on linus than the others. The only difference with these and many of the RPM's already on linus is that they're built against the latest glibc, and they're from the RH 5.0 install, not 4.9.1. Most of the work is getting a build environment going; the rpm of rpm itself on linus won't build because it's compiled against an older libc; then there's all the other broken libraries to create or fix... Could someone in Europe kindly create a PGP RPM? I have one here, but I cannot distribute it because of ridiculous laws. Some odd problems I'm encountering: - the bare system which runs nothing consumes 20MB of RAM. I'm using Ralf's 2.1.67 kernel. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but 'free' gives me 20MB used, 16MB which is unaccounted for. Does this mean the kernel is using 16MB? Wow. It explains the 'memory exhausted' problems I get. - gcc occasionally segfaults. But, I have a functional system I can telnet into with virtual consoles and most things II need to get boot strapped. It looks good. - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 12:10:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA812529 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:10:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA24218 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:07:18 -0800 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA24200 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:07:13 -0800 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id PAA03701; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:07:12 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA09408; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <34B6836E.1F366317@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:07:10 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1291 Lines: 31 Alex deVries wrote: > Some odd problems I'm encountering: > - the bare system which runs nothing consumes 20MB of RAM. I'm using > Ralf's 2.1.67 kernel. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but 'free' gives me > 20MB used, 16MB which is unaccounted for. Does this mean the kernel is > using 16MB? Wow. It explains the 'memory exhausted' problems I get. > - gcc occasionally segfaults. > > But, I have a functional system I can telnet into with virtual consoles > and most things II need to get boot strapped. It looks good. > > - A Linux always reports all of your memory used. At least it always has on my PC at home. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 16:29:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA918762 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:29:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA12233 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:24:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA12225 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:24:00 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA03204 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:23:55 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA14964 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:25:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:25:50 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... In-Reply-To: <34B6836E.1F366317@detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1083 Lines: 27 On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > Alex deVries wrote: > > Some odd problems I'm encountering: > > - the bare system which runs nothing consumes 20MB of RAM. I'm using > > Ralf's 2.1.67 kernel. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but 'free' gives me > > 20MB used, 16MB which is unaccounted for. Does this mean the kernel is > > using 16MB? Wow. It explains the 'memory exhausted' problems I get. > > Linux always reports all of your memory used. At least it always has on > my PC at home. I had a closer look at it, and indeed, all the memory is accounted for. But, what I'm totally unused to is things taking up so much. I've got 64MB in there now (although it's detected as 60248kB, it's missing 4MB). Now I've got just the bare bones required to do anything productive: bdflush, inetd and a couple of shells. There goes half my memory. For example, 'su' takes up 4.5MB. This seems like an awful lot to me, compared to the Intel equivalent of 1MB. I know the binaries are going to be larger because of the RISC thing, but really that large? Is this normal? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 17:25:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA937664 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:25:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA03520 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:22:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA03500 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:22:13 -0800 Received: from multi11.netcomi.com (multi11.netcomi.com [204.58.155.211]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA20922 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:22:09 -0800 env-from (mgix@nothingreal.com) Received: from ghoul (lax-ca39-05.ix.netcom.com [205.184.226.133]) by multi11.netcomi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18011; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:20:47 -0600 From: "Emmanuel Mogenet" To: "Alex deVries" , "SGI Linux" Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:21:31 -0800 Message-ID: <01bd1d66$153f46a0$060200c0@ghoul> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 600 Lines: 22 >For example, 'su' takes up 4.5MB. This seems like an awful lot to me, >compared to the Intel equivalent of 1MB. I know the binaries are going to >be larger because of the RISC thing, but really that large? > >Is this normal? Here, on the stuff we're working on, we experience that a DLL compiled with visual C++ in full optimization mode is on average 2.5 times smaller than the exact same code compiled into a DSO under IRIX 6.2 with compiler at -O3 -n32 -mips3. I don't know about gcc under IRIX, but I've never seen a factor of 4 pop up before. That seems like an awful lot. - Mgix From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 9 20:10:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA07579 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:10:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA06205 for linux-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:05:46 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA06200 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:05:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA02549 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:05:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: Linux porting team Subject: something not really right .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 922 Lines: 26 I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal functionality .. i.e. most of the newer stuff has been left out. after the compilation, trying to bring the machine up by serving the kernel via NFS/BOOTP gets me this message sash "unable to execute bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough space" "unable to load bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough space" sash any ideas, anyone ?? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 03:00:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA13584 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:00:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA01755 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:54:34 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA01727 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:54:24 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA26242 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:54:22 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04026; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:54:21 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA06572; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:54:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19980110115418.15445@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:54:18 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... References: <34B6836E.1F366317@detroit.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 07:25:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 929 Lines: 22 On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 07:25:50PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > I had a closer look at it, and indeed, all the memory is accounted for. > But, what I'm totally unused to is things taking up so much. I've got > 64MB in there now (although it's detected as 60248kB, it's missing 4MB). The 60248kb is what the ARC firmware returns as free memory. > Now I've got just the bare bones required to do anything productive: > bdflush, inetd and a couple of shells. There goes half my memory. > > For example, 'su' takes up 4.5MB. This seems like an awful lot to me, > compared to the Intel equivalent of 1MB. I know the binaries are going to > be larger because of the RISC thing, but really that large? > > Is this normal? It think the way these numbers are being computed is broken for MIPS. MIPS executables are rougly 50-70% bigger than i386 ones; the size of the data in executables and memory should be comparable. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 03:00:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA13695 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:00:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA02442 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:59:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA02438 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:59:14 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA26722 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:59:13 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04123; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:59:09 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA06580; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:59:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19980110115907.55998@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:59:07 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Emmanuel Mogenet Cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... References: <01bd1d66$153f46a0$060200c0@ghoul> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <01bd1d66$153f46a0$060200c0@ghoul>; from Emmanuel Mogenet on Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 05:21:31PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1023 Lines: 27 On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 05:21:31PM -0800, Emmanuel Mogenet wrote: > > > >For example, 'su' takes up 4.5MB. This seems like an awful lot to me, > >compared to the Intel equivalent of 1MB. I know the binaries are going to > >be larger because of the RISC thing, but really that large? > > > >Is this normal? > > > Here, on the stuff we're working on, we experience that a DLL compiled > with visual C++ in full optimization mode is on average 2.5 times smaller > than the exact same code compiled into a DSO under IRIX 6.2 with compiler > at -O3 -n32 -mips3. Note that SGI's compiler seems to be more trimmed for speed and may sometimes do massive loopunrolling etc. while the M$ compilers tend to produce relativly compact code. > I don't know about gcc under IRIX, but I've never seen a factor of 4 pop up > before. Duh... regarding my last post - though Alex was refering to the in memory size. If his Linux executables are really that big might be producing static linked ones or containing debug info. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 03:05:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA13738 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:04:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA03406 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:04:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA03393; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:04:34 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA27351; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:04:31 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04289; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:04:30 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id MAA06589; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:04:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19980110120428.62352@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:04:28 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Shrijeet Mukherjee Cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: something not really right .. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Shrijeet Mukherjee on Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 08:04:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 835 Lines: 21 On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 08:04:57PM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: > > I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal > functionality .. i.e. most of the newer stuff has been left out. > > after the compilation, trying to bring the machine up by serving the > kernel via NFS/BOOTP gets me this message > > sash > "unable to execute bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough > space" > "unable to load bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough space" > sash Did you modify the load address of the kernel? Indy kernels are by default linked for address 0x88002000 because the Indy has a 128mb hole in it's address space there. I assumes (wje???) that your box has it's memory mapped from 0x80000000 upwards, so this would only work if you actually have that more than 128mb ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 09:42:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA61060 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:42:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA02108 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:37:00 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA02103 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:36:57 -0800 Received: from nic.cerf.net (nic.cerf.net [192.102.249.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA20792 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:36:57 -0800 env-from (bellis@cerf.net) Received: from maelstrom.cerf.net (maelstrom.cerf.net [198.137.140.16]) by nic.cerf.net (1.1.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11130 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:36:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:38:20 -0800 (PST) From: William Ellis To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series In-Reply-To: <19980110120428.62352@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 740 Lines: 18 I just got hold of a spare Challenge S Series(R5000) I was going to attempt putting SGI/Linux on. I know the porting is basicaly geared for the Indy's but I was going to muck with it a bunch. Then I just saw this post and was wondering if there was any quick, good heads-up for these machines. Thanks, Bill >> I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal [*snip*] > Did you modify the load address of the kernel? Indy kernels are by > default linked for address 0x88002000 because the Indy has a 128mb > hole in it's address space there. I assumes (wje???) that your box > has it's memory mapped from 0x80000000 upwards, so this would only > work if you actually have that more than 128mb ... > Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 10:04:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA69143 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:04:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04596 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:04:37 -0800 Received: from daddyo.engr.sgi.com (daddyo.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.110]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA04592; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:04:36 -0800 Received: (from marker@localhost) by daddyo.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA62540; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: marker@daddyo.engr.sgi.com (Charles Marker) Message-Id: <199801101804.KAA62540@daddyo.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series To: bellis@cerf.net (William Ellis) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:04:32 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, marker@daddyo.engr.sgi.com (Charles Marker) In-Reply-To: from "William Ellis" at Jan 10, 98 09:38:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1016 Lines: 27 > > > > I just got hold of a spare Challenge S Series(R5000) I was > going to attempt putting SGI/Linux on. I know the porting is > basicaly geared for the Indy's but I was going to muck with it > a bunch. Then I just saw this post and was wondering if there > was any quick, good heads-up for these machines. > Thanks, Bill A Challenge S is just an Indy with the graphics, ISDN and some of the digital media removed. As long as the kernel is probing for those devices and handling their non existance correctly, this should work reasonably well. Charles > >> I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal > [*snip*] > > Did you modify the load address of the kernel? Indy kernels are by > > default linked for address 0x88002000 because the Indy has a 128mb > > hole in it's address space there. I assumes (wje???) that your box > > has it's memory mapped from 0x80000000 upwards, so this would only > > work if you actually have that more than 128mb ... > > Ralf > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 09:59:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA67010 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:59:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA03554 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:54:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA03548 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:54:40 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA23172 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:54:39 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA04013; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 17:54:19 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xr5TY-0005FsC; Sat, 10 Jan 98 18:17 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 18:17:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jan 9, 98 02:54:03 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 752 Lines: 17 > I'm in the middle of churning out the RH 5.0 RPMs, and I'll upload them > into a seperate directory on linus than the others. The only difference > with these and many of the RPM's already on linus is that they're built > against the latest glibc, and they're from the RH 5.0 install, not 4.9.1. Ok. I'll work with you on that from Monday. Ive got the fixes for several RH5 SRPMS to build with mips. Glibc 2.0.6 should fix the argv[0] bug and the -lbsd problems too so much more should build > Could someone in Europe kindly create a PGP RPM? I have one here, but I > cannot distribute it because of ridiculous laws. No problem. I can build pgp etc again. I'll build ssh and anything else looking fun off replay and upload the stuff back Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 10:46:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA83490 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:46:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA08675 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:42:11 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA08659 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:42:08 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA00790 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:42:07 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13728 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:42:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01137; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:39:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19980110193903.62137@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:39:03 +0100 To: Alan Cox Cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 06:17:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 639 Lines: 14 On Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 06:17:40PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I'm in the middle of churning out the RH 5.0 RPMs, and I'll upload them > > into a seperate directory on linus than the others. The only difference > > with these and many of the RPM's already on linus is that they're built > > against the latest glibc, and they're from the RH 5.0 install, not 4.9.1. > > Ok. I'll work with you on that from Monday. Ive got the fixes for several > RH5 SRPMS to build with mips. Glibc 2.0.6 should fix the argv[0] bug > and the -lbsd problems too so much more should build That one actually has been fixed months ago in the CVS ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 10:46:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA83468 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA09125 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:46:13 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA09120; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:46:11 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA01299; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:46:09 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13781; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:46:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01144; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980110194305.53233@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:43:05 +0100 To: Charles Marker Cc: William Ellis , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series References: <199801101804.KAA62540@daddyo.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801101804.KAA62540@daddyo.engr.sgi.com>; from Charles Marker on Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 10:04:32AM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 785 Lines: 18 On Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 10:04:32AM -0800, Charles Marker wrote: > > I just got hold of a spare Challenge S Series(R5000) I was > > going to attempt putting SGI/Linux on. I know the porting is > > basicaly geared for the Indy's but I was going to muck with it > > a bunch. Then I just saw this post and was wondering if there > > was any quick, good heads-up for these machines. > > Thanks, Bill > > A Challenge S is just an Indy with the graphics, ISDN and some of the > digital media removed. As long as the kernel is probing for those > devices and handling their non existance correctly, this should work > reasonably well. So chances are it's actually running. So far I've never seen reports from anybody attempting to run Linux on a Challenge S, so I'm curious. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 11:15:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA93481 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:15:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA11684 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:11:32 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA11677 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:11:22 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA05460 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:11:19 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03180; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 14:13:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 14:13:33 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 RPMs for SGI... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 517 Lines: 13 On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > Ok. I'll work with you on that from Monday. Ive got the fixes for several > RH5 SRPMS to build with mips. Glibc 2.0.6 should fix the argv[0] bug > and the -lbsd problems too so much more should build My build ran until about 2am last night before hanging because of a zombie process. No big deal. The first pass ended at about 't'. In about an hour all my work will be in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/RedHat/RPMS-5.0 . I've moved the existing RPMs to RPMS-4.9.x. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 10 23:27:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA127066 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:27:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA25569 for linux-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:22:14 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA25564 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:22:12 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id XAA23397 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:22:10 -0800 env-from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From dizzy With LocalMail ; Sun, 11 Jan 98 18:22:05 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: SGI/Linux mailing list Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 07:22:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: andrewo@dizzy.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Subject: Anybody want a R4600 IRIX w/o L2 cache kernel ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 23 If anybody wants it then email me .... unless some kind soul will put it on the ftp site for me as I noticed there was no public upload dir. It was built using the kernel source found in /pub/test/linux-970915.tar.gz, crosscompiled on a x86/linux box, using a patched binutils-2.8.1 and the gcc found in the rpm within the crossdev/ dir. It has not undergone extensive testing, but given that there were no errors during compile, I would assume its as stable as anything else out there based in this kernel. Let me know if anybody wants the binary or tarball for the ftp site. --___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \___ "finger -l andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ___/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 03:38:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA129871 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:38:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA21771 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:34:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA21767 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:34:45 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA26720 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:34:44 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.29]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08023 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:34:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA02656; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:32:41 +0100 Message-ID: <19980111113241.08096@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:32:41 +0100 To: Edwin Hakkennes Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: fdisk for linux-sgi References: <199801091206.NAA01800@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801091206.NAA01800@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl>; from Edwin Hakkennes on Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 01:06:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 693 Lines: 17 On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 01:06:46PM +0100, Edwin Hakkennes wrote: > I'm trying to get an indy running Linux. I downloaded the Getting_started > stuff, and unpacked it. All seems to be fine, except that I cannot find > an fdisk program on this file-system. (root-be-0.01.cpio) > > My question is: How do I partition the disk. I have one, empty 2G disk > on which only Linux should be installed. > > Is it neccesary to put the disk in a PC for partioning? No. You can use the software included under IRIX. If the disk you are connecting is not the bootdisk, means sash & the kernel don't reside on it you can also partition the disk on a pc. This may be handy for data exchange. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 06:50:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA124214 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA03639 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:45:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA03634 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:45:18 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA19556 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 06:45:17 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA26898 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:47:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:47:58 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Rebooting... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 460 Lines: 17 For the first time, I got my machine to shutdown properly after doing a ^d after an fsck. Cool! No more hanging after "Disabling R4600 SCACHE". But, now I have something a bit odder after "Disabling 4600 SCACHE": --UNKNOWN INTERRUPT:00:01:00-- Just reporting the bug... - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 09:47:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA132820 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:47:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA16363 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:40:54 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA16352 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:40:45 -0800 Received: from pallas.spacetec.no (pallas.spacetec.no [192.51.5.92]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA13587 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:40:38 -0800 env-from (tor@spacetec.no) Received: (from tor@localhost) by pallas.spacetec.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03330 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:40:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199801111740.SAA03330@pallas.spacetec.no> From: tor@spacetec.no (Tor Arntsen) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:40:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: marker@daddyo.engr.sgi.com (Charles Marker) "Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series" (Jan 10, 19:12) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 389 Lines: 11 On Jan 10, 19:12, Charles Marker wrote: >A Challenge S is just an Indy with the graphics, ISDN and some of the >digital media removed. As long as the kernel is probing for those >devices and handling their non existance correctly, this should work >reasonably well. Uh, if I'm not suddenly totally confused a Challenge S is an Indigo-2 with all those things removed, not an Indy.. Tor From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 12:46:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA134584 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:46:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA03916 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:42:36 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA03904 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:42:25 -0800 Received: from pallas.spacetec.no (pallas.spacetec.no [192.51.5.92]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA10573 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:42:24 -0800 env-from (tor@spacetec.no) Received: (from tor@localhost) by pallas.spacetec.no (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03415; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:41:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199801112041.VAA03415@pallas.spacetec.no> From: tor@spacetec.no (Tor Arntsen) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:41:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de "Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series" (Jan 11, 21:12) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 415 Lines: 13 On Jan 11, 21:12, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: >On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 06:40:24PM +0100, Tor Arntsen wrote: > >> Uh, if I'm not suddenly totally confused a Challenge S is an Indigo-2 with >> all those things removed, not an Indy.. > >No, it's Indy based. Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking about the Challenge M. Sigh, I wish SGI didn't call their non-Challenge products "Challenge" in the first place.. Tor From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 14:53:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA135764 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA14649 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:47:13 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14637 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:47:07 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA28612 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:47:04 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA13395 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:49:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:49:45 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: some glibc issues... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 312 Lines: 14 Two things that puzzle me: - exactly what's wrong with using -lbsd now? - why does sys/mount.h have no MS_ defines in it now? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 15:44:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA136025 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:44:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA19130 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:41:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA19122 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:41:12 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id PAA06405 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:41:10 -0800 env-from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From dizzy With LocalMail ; Mon, 12 Jan 98 10:40:37 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: SGI/Linux mailing list Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:40:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: andrewo@dizzy.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Subject: Update on no L2 cache kernel binary. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 616 Lines: 17 Grab it from ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/andrewo/vmlinux-indy-noL2-971208.tar.gz if you want it. Let me know if you grab it, so I know how useful this actually is ... ;) cya --___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \___ "finger -l andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ___/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 16:25:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA132384 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:25:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA23114 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:20:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA23078 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:20:08 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA12591 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:20:05 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA16190 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:22:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Update on no L2 cache kernel binary. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 281 Lines: 11 On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > Grab it from > ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/andrewo/vmlinux-indy-noL2-971208.tar.gz > if you want it. With permission from Andrew, I've mirrored this at ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-noL2-971208.tar.gz - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 16:41:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA136718 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA25074 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:38:59 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA25069 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:38:58 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA15325 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:38:56 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28880 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:38:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA04123; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:35:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19980112013541.24300@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:35:41 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: some glibc issues... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 05:49:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 465 Lines: 16 On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 05:49:45PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Two things that puzzle me: > > - exactly what's wrong with using -lbsd now? It simply doesn't exist anymore. RedHat on kludges things by making libbsd.a a link to libbsd-compat.a. That's a broken attempt to keep Makefiles alive because -D_BSD_SOURCE needs to be added to CFLAGS for BSD code anyway ... > - why does sys/mount.h have no MS_ defines in it now? Duh? It does have them ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 18:52:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA137586 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:52:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA07006 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:44:45 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA06997 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:44:32 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA06135 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:44:28 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA21651 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:47:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:47:11 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: BlueBelt Linux for SGI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1649 Lines: 36 I'm just about finished all I can bear for one weekend. I've made one pass over every single source RPM from RedHat 5.0 with the intention of finishing off a decent distribution called BlueBelt 5.0 (IceStorm). There's 452 binary RPMs that qualify as being suitable for SGI; eg. SVGALib doesn't make a lot of sense on an Indy. Of those, I tried compiling about 410. I have 285 binaries, 50 noarchs and about 75 failures. A lot of those failures are simply because of the order I built everything in; eg. I built gpm-devel late in the game, so things like mc didn't compile. Within an hour, you'll be able to see the whole thing at http://www.linux.sgi.com/bluebelt/. Uploading the packages is going to take overnight, although there are a lot of them there already. They'll be in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/RedHat/RPMS/ . Please, if you would like to help me sort out the remaining packages, please consult the list first. It'll give some indication if that package has been successfully converted already. Let me know, and I'll sign the package as I have the others, and I'll update the WWW page accordingly. I put a lot of time into organizing all the packages on the WWW, please use it as a guide to what needs to be done. It'll be tempting to mail me and say "Alex, you dork, why didn't you just install gpm-devel before you did all this?". Well, now I know. Please don't be too harsh. - Alex "praying RH 5.1 won't come out anytime really soon" deVries -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 19:10:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA137543 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA08971 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:05:21 -0800 Received: from mailbox.esd.sgi.com (mailbox.esd.sgi.com [192.111.28.79]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA08956; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:05:18 -0800 Received: by mailbox.esd.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA02316; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:05:12 -0800 From: kck@mailbox.esd.sgi.com (Ken Klingman) Message-Id: <199801120305.TAA02316@mailbox.esd.sgi.com> Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series To: tor@spacetec.no (Tor Arntsen) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801111740.SAA03330@pallas.spacetec.no> from "Tor Arntsen" at Jan 11, 98 06:40:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 468 Lines: 18 You're totally confused. Charles is correct. Ken > > On Jan 10, 19:12, Charles Marker wrote: > >A Challenge S is just an Indy with the graphics, ISDN and some of the > >digital media removed. As long as the kernel is probing for those > >devices and handling their non existance correctly, this should work > >reasonably well. > > Uh, if I'm not suddenly totally confused a Challenge S is an Indigo-2 with > all those things removed, not an Indy.. > > Tor > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 20:21:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA138567 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:21:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA14828 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:15:00 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA14817 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:14:47 -0800 Received: from caf1.caf.wvu.edu (caf1.caf.wvu.edu [157.182.4.65]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA20130 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:14:46 -0800 env-from (dfrasnel@caf1.caf.wvu.edu) Received: by caf1.caf.wvu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA23976; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:14:44 -0500 From: dfrasnel@caf1.caf.wvu.edu (Daniel Frasnelli) Message-Id: <199801120414.XAA23976@caf1.caf.wvu.edu> Subject: Linux-installer question To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:14:44 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1072 Lines: 18 Greetings, Just downloaded the Linux-installer 0.1 package from the ftp site, and am a bit confused about the instruction in INSTALL to execute the "installer" script, as I cannot find such a script. The files in my downloaded copy of Linux-installer-0.1.tar.gz are: INSTALL, e2fsck, mke2fs, and root-be-0.01.cpio. I have unpacked the root filesystem on a remote machine, and can copy whatever I would need from there. Just in case you're wondering, the networking here is such that bootps traffic is filtered out at the router, and I don't have a second computer to boot from. Thanks for any help, Daniel -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Daniel J Frasnelli Forest ecology student | | College of Agriculture and Forestry GIS/Remote Sensing enthusiast | | West Virginia University Backpacker extraordinaire | | http://www.caf.wvu.edu/cafresrch/index.html | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 20:23:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA135978 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:23:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA16009 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:23:05 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA16005; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:23:03 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA18203; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:22:58 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:22:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199801120422.UAA18203@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: William Ellis Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series In-Reply-To: References: <19980110120428.62352@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 909 Lines: 21 William Ellis writes: > > > I just got hold of a spare Challenge S Series(R5000) I was > going to attempt putting SGI/Linux on. I know the porting is > basicaly geared for the Indy's but I was going to muck with it > a bunch. Then I just saw this post and was wondering if there > was any quick, good heads-up for these machines. > Thanks, Bill > > >> I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal > [*snip*] > > Did you modify the load address of the kernel? Indy kernels are by > > default linked for address 0x88002000 because the Indy has a 128mb > > hole in it's address space there. I assumes (wje???) that your box > > has it's memory mapped from 0x80000000 upwards, so this would only > > work if you actually have that more than 128mb ... The Challenge S and Indy are identical, except that the Challenge S does not have a graphics card. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 20:25:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA138635 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:25:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA16323 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:25:08 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA16286; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:59 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA18210; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:50 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199801120424.UAA18210@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Shrijeet Mukherjee , Linux porting team Subject: Re: something not really right .. In-Reply-To: <19980110120428.62352@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980110120428.62352@thoma.uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1084 Lines: 26 Ralf Baechle writes: > On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 08:04:57PM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: > > > > I tried to compile the latest sources for an Indigo R4k .. with minimal > > functionality .. i.e. most of the newer stuff has been left out. > > > > after the compilation, trying to bring the machine up by serving the > > kernel via NFS/BOOTP gets me this message > > > > sash > > "unable to execute bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough > > space" > > "unable to load bootp()tantrik:/usr/local/boot/vmlinux: Not enough space" > > sash > > Did you modify the load address of the kernel? Indy kernels are by > default linked for address 0x88002000 because the Indy has a 128mb > hole in it's address space there. I assumes (wje???) that your box > has it's memory mapped from 0x80000000 upwards, so this would only > work if you actually have that more than 128mb ... > Indy and Indigo R40000 both have the hole at the bottom of the address space, so main memory is mapped starting at 0x88000000, with 512 KB double-mapped at 0x80000000. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 20:44:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA138602 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:44:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA17732 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:39:57 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA17727; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:39:55 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA18238; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:39:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:39:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199801120439.UAA18238@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: tor@spacetec.no (Tor Arntsen) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI/Linux on a Challenge S series In-Reply-To: <199801111740.SAA03330@pallas.spacetec.no> References: <199801111740.SAA03330@pallas.spacetec.no> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 479 Lines: 11 Tor Arntsen writes: > On Jan 10, 19:12, Charles Marker wrote: > >A Challenge S is just an Indy with the graphics, ISDN and some of the > >digital media removed. As long as the kernel is probing for those > >devices and handling their non existance correctly, this should work > >reasonably well. > > Uh, if I'm not suddenly totally confused a Challenge S is an Indigo-2 with > all those things removed, not an Indy.. No, a Challenge S is an Indy, not an Indigo2. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 11 21:28:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA138692 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:28:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA21522 for linux-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:23:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA21510 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:23:49 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id VAA00698 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:23:48 -0800 env-from (conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From l4-00 With LocalMail ; Mon, 12 Jan 98 16:23:42 +1100 From: "K." To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:23:37 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: conradp@l4-00.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: crtbegin.o, crtend.o Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 584 Lines: 16 um... can anyone point out where these files can be obtained? In our recent install, (Indy R4600) made from the root-be-0.01 root filesystem with the recent binutils-2.8.1-2, they are missing. We hacked out dummy object files (crtbegin has a __main() which calls main() and crtend is empty) and we can successfully compile simple programs; but before we turn our attention to compiling nastier pieces of code we would like to check that we have not tainted our /usr/lib :) thanks, K. -- Conrad Parker conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au Linux Life: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~conradp/linux/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 03:16:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA142451 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:16:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA29230 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:11:24 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA29224 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:11:22 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA02880 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 03:11:06 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23995 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:11:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01223; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:58:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:58:04 +0100 To: "K." Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from K. on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 04:23:37PM +1100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 700 Lines: 15 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 04:23:37PM +1100, K. wrote: > um... can anyone point out where these files can be obtained? In our > recent install, (Indy R4600) made from the root-be-0.01 root filesystem > with the recent binutils-2.8.1-2, they are missing. We hacked out dummy > object files (crtbegin has a __main() which calls main() and crtend is > empty) and we can successfully compile simple programs; but before we turn > our attention to compiling nastier pieces of code we would like to check > that we have not tainted our /usr/lib :) Upgrade your system with all the rpm packages. root-0.01 was my first collection of Indy executables and basically_every_ ELF file has bugs in it ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 05:20:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA143264 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:20:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA12330 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:16:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA12322 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:16:12 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA01920 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:16:11 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA04407 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:16:08 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xrk6Q-0005FsC; Mon, 12 Jan 98 13:40 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 13:40 GMT From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Red Hat 5.0 RPMS Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 442 Lines: 14 Alex - can you check all the ones you are missing against the files on ftp.uk.linux.org dated Dec 22nd or later. Those dated earlier than Jan 7th want rebuilding as they were built with buggy binutils but I've got several of your missing packages and fixes (like elm,mailx) on there I've also uploaded international PGP and ssh onto ftp.uk.linux.org ssh seems to work , sshd wont authenticate. I've not had time to find out why yet Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 09:07:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA01843 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:07:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA16676 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:02:11 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA16664 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:02:10 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA25829 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:02:06 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.16]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17959 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:02:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA01726; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <19980112175643.05482@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:56:43 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: BlueBelt Linux for SGI References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 09:47:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1839 Lines: 44 On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 09:47:11PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > I'm just about finished all I can bear for one weekend. I've made one pass > over every single source RPM from RedHat 5.0 with the intention of > finishing off a decent distribution called BlueBelt 5.0 (IceStorm). Duh, thought 5.0 is Hurricane? > There's 452 binary RPMs that qualify as being suitable for SGI; eg. > SVGALib doesn't make a lot of sense on an Indy. Of those, I tried > compiling about 410. I have 285 binaries, 50 noarchs and about 75 > failures. Be carefull, a couple of RPM don't make sense for MIPS boxes but they build nevertheless. Got burned by this ... > A lot of those failures are simply because of the order I built > everything in; eg. I built gpm-devel late in the game, so things like mc > didn't compile. > > Within an hour, you'll be able to see the whole thing at > http://www.linux.sgi.com/bluebelt/. Uploading the packages is going to > take overnight, although there are a lot of them there already. They'll be > in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/RedHat/RPMS/ . Yesterday I've rearranged the Redhat tree a little bit, it's now /pub/redhat/redhat-{4.9.1,5.0}. To put a bit of cream on top of it I also finally uploaded that glibc 2.0.6 RPMS that were getting old on my disk. > Please, if you would like to help me sort out the remaining packages, > please consult the list first. It'll give some indication if that package > has been successfully converted already. Let me know, and I'll sign the > package as I have the others, and I'll update the WWW page accordingly. I > put a lot of time into organizing all the packages on the WWW, please use > it as a guide to what needs to be done. Www? ipfwadm brings prompt releave ;-) > - Alex "praying RH 5.1 won't come out anytime really soon" deVries :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 09:22:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02126 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:22:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA21280 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:16:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA21262 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:16:16 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA17188 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:16:11 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06386; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:18:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:18:47 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: "K." , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o In-Reply-To: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 389 Lines: 12 On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Upgrade your system with all the rpm packages. root-0.01 was my first > collection of Indy executables and basically_every_ ELF file has bugs in > it ... On that note, I should probably get around to creating root-0.02 which has all the 'new' binaries in it... are there any more files than the ones in root-0.01 I should add? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 14:31:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA60815 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA11397 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:35 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11383 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:33 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA20974 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:31 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:27:23 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xrpKi-002OiOC; Mon, 12 Jan 98 20:15 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA00979; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:37:55 +0100 Message-ID: <19980112193755.38339@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:37:55 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: some glibc issues... References: <19980112013541.24300@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980112013541.24300@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:35:41AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 783 Lines: 27 > > - exactly what's wrong with using -lbsd now? > > It simply doesn't exist anymore. RedHat on kludges things by making > libbsd.a a link to libbsd-compat.a. That's a broken attempt to keep > Makefiles alive because -D_BSD_SOURCE needs to be added to CFLAGS for > BSD code anyway ... but that's not enough for getpgrp and getpgrp. These function have different arguments in *BSD. > > - why does sys/mount.h have no MS_ defines in it now? > > Duh? It does have them ... really ? [root@mips sys]# grep MS_ /usr/include/sys/mount.h [root@mips sys]# Not in my sys/mount.h. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 11:00:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA20389 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:00:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA29353 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:55:57 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA29333 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:55:54 -0800 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA09199 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:55:52 -0800 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01817; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:47:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:47:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199801121847.MAA01817@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:47:11 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: BlueBelt Linux for SGI X-Home: is where the cat is Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 230 Lines: 10 > A lot of those failures are simply because of the order I built > everything in; eg. I built gpm-devel late in the game, so things like mc > didn't compile. Oh, but this is such an important tool. We need mc ;-) Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 14:30:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA60836 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:30:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA11416 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:38 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11406 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:37 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA20992 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:27:35 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:27:19 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xrpKi-002OiNC; Mon, 12 Jan 98 20:15 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA00995; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:56:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19980112195622.35682@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:56:22 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: "K." , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o References: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 09:58:04AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1117 Lines: 23 > > um... can anyone point out where these files can be obtained? In our > > recent install, (Indy R4600) made from the root-be-0.01 root filesystem > > with the recent binutils-2.8.1-2, they are missing. We hacked out dummy > > object files (crtbegin has a __main() which calls main() and crtend is > > empty) and we can successfully compile simple programs; but before we turn > > our attention to compiling nastier pieces of code we would like to check > > that we have not tainted our /usr/lib :) > > Upgrade your system with all the rpm packages. root-0.01 was my first > collection of Indy executables and basically_every_ ELF file has bugs in > it ... but at least with the little endian gcc rpm you want get crtbegin.o and crtend.o, because they are missing. Neither x86, alpha nor sparc have such files (at least not in gcc), so they are missing from the redhat .spec file. Sorry for the late bug report. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 11:33:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA32824 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:33:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13303 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:31:17 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13169 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:31:03 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA23515 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:31:00 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13312; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:33:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:33:35 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Miguel de Icaza cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: BlueBelt Linux for SGI In-Reply-To: <199801121847.MAA01817@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 277 Lines: 11 On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > everything in; eg. I built gpm-devel late in the game, so things like mc > > didn't compile. > Oh, but this is such an important tool. > We need mc ;-) I've packaged it now, and it'll be on linus in a few minutes. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 11:33:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA32810 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:33:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA12178 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:28:40 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA12108 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:28:28 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA22722 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:28:27 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA10347; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:27:49 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xrpuB-0005FsC; Mon, 12 Jan 98 19:52 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: BlueBelt Linux for SGI To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:52:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801121847.MAA01817@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Jan 12, 98 12:47:58 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 334 Lines: 11 > > A lot of those failures are simply because of the order I built > > everything in; eg. I built gpm-devel late in the game, so things like mc > > didn't compile. > > Oh, but this is such an important tool. > > We need mc ;-) I've filled in a pile of the obvious blanks and a few spec file fixes - ftp.uk.linux.org as usual From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 12:44:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA55457 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:44:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA08413 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:02 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA08367 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:40:56 -0800 Received: from zaphod.et.tudelft.nl (zaphod.et.tudelft.nl [130.161.38.84]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA15836 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:40:55 -0800 env-from (ednes@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl) Received: (from ednes@localhost) by zaphod.et.tudelft.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA20724; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:40:53 +0100 Message-Id: <199801122040.VAA20724@zaphod.et.tudelft.nl> Subject: booting linux To: Linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:40:53 +0100 (CET) Cc: E.Hakkennes@ET.TUDelft.NL (Edwin Hakkennes) In-Reply-To: From: Edwin Hakkennes Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 987 Lines: 30 Hi all I reinstalled Irix 5.3 on our indy, and put the vmlinux-indy-2.1.67.tar.gz kernel on the irix root as vmlinux. There is no root-file-system yet. I need to bring a disk... When booting using stop for maintainance, boot (sash) boot -f /vmlinux /dev/sda1 it starts to boot, but it hangs after the following message: Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet. This comes just after the serial devices probe and the registering of the loop device. Is this something releted to a missing root-file-system? I was expecting something like Panic, unable to mount root-fs I'll bring a disk tomorrow and try to unpack the file-system there, but in the meantime, I'm curious what causes this error. I'm also curious where to fined the installer program which is mentioned in Linux-installer.tgz/INSTALL and whether there is a solution to the rpm-binary that is supposed not to work (as per th INSTALL doc) Thanks for any insight! and for porting Linux/RedHat 5.0! Edwin Hakkennes From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 13:34:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA56313 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:34:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA23071 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:30:15 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA23059 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:30:14 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA79891 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:30:12 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801122130.NAA79891@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: The perennial bus error IRQ :-) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:30:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 15656 Lines: 437 Hi List, Going over the linux archives I see over 5 emails from people hitting this problem. It was upposedly already fixed in the sources. Looks like a lot of time and grief would be saved just by deleting the bad precompiled kernel from linux and putting one that should work on any Indy (R4400, R4600, R5000, with/without Scache) instead... Anyone voluteering to put a precompiled stable current kernel on linus ? -- Peace, Ariel Enclosing what I found about this in the archive (trimmed down): ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 23:15:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries - While doing a lot of NFS stuff, I got a the following panic: Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet ... Cause: 00004000 Spinning and then the whole thing locks. I'm using Mike Shaver's 2.1.43. Should anyone have a brand new 2.1.47, I'd love to try it. Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:30:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199709052230.RAA21201@speedy.rd.qms.com> From: Mark Salter Mike Shaver said: > because heavy ethernet traffic occasionally generates bus errors that > lock up the box. I'm going to take a look at what causes those > tomorrow, hopefully. These finally annoyed me to the point I started looking at it today. I was able to hack the buserr irq handler to set up a gdb frame so that gdb gets control at the instruction that was interrupted. The problem appears to be in sgiseeq.c which is no great surprise since it occurs during times of heavy network traffic. The bus error irqs always occur when interrupts are reenabled in the ret_from_sys_call after a sgiseeq irq. The hpc_ethregs tx_ctrl value is 0x1 indicating that transmit was inactive, but there was an underflow. The tx_ndptr value is 0xffffffff. The latter I think leads to the bus error. Look at kick_tx() being called from sgiseeq_tx() during the handling of the interrupt. With that value of tx_ndptr, kick_tx would end up writing to 0xbffffff0 which is not we want to do. I don't have the HPC docs, so I'm probably not going to be able to come up with a proper fix... --Mark Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:37:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199709231837.NAA20145@speedy.rd.qms.com> From: Mark Salter To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx >> [5] Verify that the latest source tree on Llinus compiles and boots >> (maybe automate this with a daily build that gets tested) > I checked this yesterday when I commited my code to linus. Yes, but I bet you didn't check it on an Indy with no scache :-) I have one of those beasts and the latest code in the cvs tree crashes early in the boot process. The code in arch/mips/mm/r4xx0.c which sets up the cache flush procs now selects r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 where earlier versions of r4xx0.c selected r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32. I think the current choice is correct in that my Indy has the R4600 cache bug mentioned in IDT's errata. But the *_r4600 version also has some inline assembler under an ifdef CONFIG_SGI which appears to do something to the SGI scache. But since I have no scache, I get a bus error irq instead. It seems a bit strange that r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 has this bit of SGI specific code, but r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 does not. ??? --Mark Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:40:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199709232240.PAA09768@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Mark Salter Cc: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list > It seems a bit strange that r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 > has this bit of SGI specific code, but r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 > does not. ??? I have not looked at the source, but the problem is probably that there needs to be two cases, one with and one without Indy R4600 scache. This is determined by reading out the EEPROM on the CPU board, and looking at the appropriate bits for "scache present" and "scache size". The processor will get a bus error trying to reference the control registers of the scache controller (via uncached memory references) if the secondary cache is not present. From: Ralf Baechle Message-Id: <199709232334.BAA03833@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Received: by erbse (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id BAA04268; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:34:50 +0200 Subject: Re: Task list --preliminary list To: marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com (Mark Salter) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:34:50 +0200 (MET DST) > > It seems a bit strange that r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600 > has this bit of SGI specific code, but r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 > does not. ??? The R4400 versions of the Indy have the "real" second level cache and use a SC CPU version. Opposed to that the L2 cache of the R4600 and R5000 Indies is controlled by external circuitry which needs special code. Actually since we have the same problem on a couple of other machines, SNI RM family one of them, what should be done is to break out all the #ifugly'ed SGI bits and provide some hooks for them. You L2 less machine would simply plug an empty function into these hooks. Using r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32 was definately wrong, the R4600 cache is two way set associative and flush_page_to_ram needs to take care of that for all the R4600 and R5000 relatives. Ralf From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199711272254.OAA27112@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Problems with booting SGI/Linux To: kron@informatics.muni.cz (David Kostal) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:54:20 -0800 (PST) : :Hallo, :I've tried to run sgi/linux on our INDY/R4600PC 100MHz, but I was :unable to boot the kernel. I used kernel from :test/vmlinux-970916-efs.gz . The booting process stoped after while. :I use this kernel, because I wasn't able to cross-compile my own :kernel. :I send you the messages (handly) rewriten from the console. Can you, :please, lat me know, where was problem? If you wil need more info or :more tests on my Indy, I will do it. : :thanks a lot : :david kostal (kron@fi.muni.cz) :----+ : : : :PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version1 Revision 10 :PROMLIB: Total free ram 31502336 bytes (...) :ARCH: SGI-IP22 :CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE :Loading R4000 MNV routines :CPU revision is: 00002020 :Primary ICACHE 16K (linesize 32 bytes) :Primary DCACHE 16K (linesize 32 bytes) :R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0 Kb linesize 32 bytes :MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 :calculating r4koff ... 0007eedc(519900) :GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup :usenamedone misc device registred (minor: 151) :umesa device registred (major 86) :video screen size is 00004c88a18833e948 :console: 16 point font, 992 scans :console: color NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63) :Calibrating delay loop ... ok - 103.83 BogoMIPS :Memory: 28616/163836 available (1020k kernel code, 2352k data) :Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 :NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. :Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 :IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP :Checking 'wait' instruction... available. :Linux version 2.1.55 (slaue@neor.ingenia.ca) (gcc version 2.7.2) #122 9.16. 16:30:52 :Posix counfornance testing by UNIFIX :Starting kswapd v 1.2.3 :SGI Zilog 8530 serial driver version 1.08 tty00 at 0xbbbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog 8530 :SGI Zilog 8530 serial driver version 1.08 tty01 at 0xbbbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog 8530 :Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet :$0 :0000 0000 1000 bc01 8811 0000 0000 0000 :$4 :8813 418c 8819 9630 89ff 5cf0 0000 0001 :$8 :1000 fc03 0000 0201 0000 9fe1 8811 99d8 :$12:0000 0001 0000 0001 0000 0001 ffff fffc :$16:0000 c000 89fe 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 :$20:987b fc20 a874 6d10 9fc5 5664 0000 0000 :$24:1000 bc01 0000 000f 0000 0000 0000 0000 :$28:0000 0000 89ff 5c90 0000 0001 8800 b0c8 :epc: 88033258 :slots: 1000fc03 :Cause: 0000 4000 :Spinning..... Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:41:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: More news... The good news [deleted] The bad news: Still more libc problems, but I'll quit whining about that since Ralf kindly told me to cross cross my own. I'm looking at my cross-compiler problems now. Next problem: I was running a ./configure for the nfs-server package, and I got a few segfaults, followed by many copies of this on the console: release_dev: pty1: read/write wait queue active! and finally: Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet and a freeze. Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 23:03:50 +0100 From: Benjamin Pannier Reply-To: karo@artcom.net ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 1997 at 07:34:21PM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > > > Thanks for the kernel binary. Unfortunately it quits in the same spot as the > > previous kernel I tried (the R4600 V2.0 problem). You said you had a stable > > kernel on the SNI RM200. This time I used the Indy kernel; should I try the > > rm200 kernel? > > If your have a RM200 ... > > Is it still that bus error message you get? If so, could you please mail > me the register dump displayed on the screen. vmlinux-indy-2.1.67: ARCH: SGI-IP22 CPU: MIPS-4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE Loading R4000 MMU routines CPU revision is: 00002020 ... Stating kswapd v1.23 SGI Zilog8530 serialdriver V1.00 tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is Zilog8530 tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is Zilog8530 loop: registered device at major 7 Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't ... $0 : 00000000 1000fc01 88130000 00000000 $4 : 88174274 8812cb10 8fff1cd8 00000001 $8 : 1000fc03 00000201 0000ffe5 8813de68 $12: 00000001 00000001 00000001 fffffffc $16: 0000c000 8ffe5000 00000000 00000000 $20: a8747330 9fc47a40 00000000 9fc47a40 $24: 1000fc01 0000000f $2: 00000000 8fff1cb8 9fc47bac 8800b0e8 epc: 880359f8 status: 1000fc03 cause: 00004000 Spinning... -karo From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 03:34:48 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy crash during bootup On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 06:12:24AM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet > $0 : 00000000 00000000 0007c000 8007d000 > $4 : 00000080 89f7d000 1000fc01 8007cfe0 > $8 : 80000000 00000000 00009f7c 8813de68 > $12: 00000001 00000001 00000001 fffffffc > $16: 09f7c000 89f7c000 00000000 00000000 > $20: a87ffc20 a8746d60 9fc556d4 00000000 > $24: 1000fc01 0000000f > $28: eb3b6f7f 89f81d90 00000001 880f2890 > epc : 88026918 > Status: 1000fc03 > Cause : 00004000 > Spinning... Ok, I did some further analysis. Dissassembling shows that Benjamin's report doesn't really contain useful data. His machine took the bus error interrupt while processing some other exception. Michael's machine took the bus error at the end of r4k_flush_page_to_ram_d32i32_r4600() which is being called during sgiwd33.c:sgiwd93_detect().c. Since the R4600 v2.0 is running rocksolid - my RM200 is up for over two weeks - the problem seems to be in the SGI specific code in the function that handles the Indy style l2 caches. Hmm... I just noticed in Benjamin's startup messages that his machine doesn't print a message (``Enabling R4600 SCACHE'') about activating the second level cache. I bet both your and Benjamin's machines don't have second level caches. Could you check the hinv output, please? William: would an attempt to manipulate the R4600 second level cache on a Indy without such a cache result in a bus error interrupt? Ralf [and later] On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 11:03:50PM +0100, Benjamin Pannier wrote: > tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is Zilog8530 > loop: registered device at major 7 > Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't ... Bad, the two register dumps you and Mike mailed don't make very much sense; the epc register is pointer to completly different routines. What both reports have in common is that the kernel dies after the initialisation of the loop device. The loop driver is actually ``harmless'' as it has no SGI specific code. The next driver to be initialized would be the SCSI driver, so the problem is there. This and the useless epc values might indicate a problem with the hpc dma. I wonder if the DMA engine in the HPC might still be active? I'm going to try to solve the problem by starring at the source. If this doesn't help, could you guys please run a special debug kernel that I'll make for you? Ralf From: Joachim Schmitz Message-Id: <199712161036.LAA07650@unixpc.germany.tandem.com> Subject: bus error IRQ To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:36:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Tandem Computers GmbH Hi list I'm new to this list and currently trying to setup my Indy for Linux. For a start I tried just to boot vmlinux-970916-efs and vmlinux-2.1.67 ... without success. Both boots ends up with: boot vmlinux-2.1.67 PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 PROMLIB: Total free ram 64376832 bytes (62868k,61MB) ARCH: SGI-IP22 CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE Loading R4000 MMU routines. CPU revision is: 00002020 Primary ICACHE 16k (linesize 32 bytes) Primary DCACHE 16k (linesize 32 bytes) R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0K linesize 32 bytes MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 calculating r4coff... 000a8fe8(692200) GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup usemaclone misc device registered (minor: 151) Video screen size is 00004c88 at 883e5d48 Console: 16 point font, 992 scans Console: color NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63) Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 138.04 BogoMIPS Memory: 60304k/196196k available (1164k kernel code, 2880k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 for Linux 2.1 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.16 for Linux NET3.038. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.037 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP Checking for 'wait' instruction... available. Linux version 2.1.67 (ralf@indy) (gcc version 2.7.2) #1 Sat Dec 6 12:48:52 PST 1997 POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Starting kswapd v 1.23 SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00 tty00 at 0xbfdb9838 (irq=21) is a Zilog8530 tty01 at 0xbfdb9830 (irq=21) is a Zilog8530 loop: registered device at major 7 Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet $0 : 00000000 1000fc01 88130000 00000000 $4 : 88174274 8812cb10 883fdcb8 00000001 $8 : 1000fc03 00000201 0000bf81 8813de68 $12: 00000001 00000001 00000001 fffffffc $16: 0000c000 8bf81000 00000000 00000000 $20: a87ffc20 a8746d10 9fc55064 00000000 $24: 1000fc01 0000000f $28: 881da370 883fdcb8 00000001 8800b0e8 epc : 880359f8 Status: 1000fc03 Cause : 00004000 Spinning... Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:24:07 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Joachim Schmitz Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com On Tue, Dec 16, 1997 at 11:36:08AM +0100, Joachim Schmitz wrote: > I'm new to this list and currently trying to setup my Indy for Linux. > For a start I tried just to boot vmlinux-970916-efs and vmlinux-2.1.67 > ... without success. Both boots ends up with: > > boot vmlinux-2.1.67 > PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 > PROMLIB: Total free ram 64376832 bytes (62868k,61MB) > ARCH: SGI-IP22 > CPU: MIPS-R4600 FPU ICACHE DCACHE > Loading R4000 MMU routines. > CPU revision is: 00002020 > Primary ICACHE 16k (linesize 32 bytes) > Primary DCACHE 16k (linesize 32 bytes) > R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0K linesize 32 bytes ^^ That's the problem, there is a kernel bug which prevents Linux from working on R4600/R5000 Indys without second level cache. My next kernel release will fix that. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 13:52:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA56412 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:52:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA28449 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:48:49 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA28440; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:48:48 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA59443; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:48:46 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801122148.NAA59443@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: The perennial bus error IRQ :-) To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:48:46 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801122130.NAA79891@oz.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Jan 12, 98 01:30:12 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 330 Lines: 12 : :Going over the linux archives I see over 5 emails :[deleted] Sorry for following up my own message... I realize that there can be multiple reasons for this bus error IRQ. I just have the feeling some people are hitting bus errors that were already fixed just because they are using an old precompiled kernel. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 16:16:39 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA78442 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:16:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA18748 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:13:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA18724 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:13:32 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA22726 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:13:30 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA30620; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:16:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:16:18 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Red Hat 5.0 RPMS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 615 Lines: 17 On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > Alex - can you check all the ones you are missing against the files > on ftp.uk.linux.org dated Dec 22nd or later. Those dated earlier than > Jan 7th want rebuilding as they were built with buggy binutils but > I've got several of your missing packages and fixes (like elm,mailx) > on there Alright. I've merged Alan's binaries in with the distribution on linus, giving us 353 of the 454 packages complete. Anything that's changed is in the SRPMs directory. I also redid all the building for anything timestampted before Jan.7. They're all signed by me, too. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 17:43:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA89837 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:43:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA18802 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:40:22 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA18770 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:40:12 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA16230 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:40:09 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15789 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:40:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02356; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: <19980113023659.28414@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:36:59 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: "K." , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o References: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 12:18:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 888 Lines: 19 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 12:18:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > Upgrade your system with all the rpm packages. root-0.01 was my first > > collection of Indy executables and basically_every_ ELF file has bugs in > > it ... > > On that note, I should probably get around to creating root-0.02 which has > all the 'new' binaries in it... are there any more files than the ones in > root-0.01 I should add? Actually I'm thinking about the opposite. root-0.02.tar.gz was a quite fat tarball, I think it was about 20mb. I received some complaints about it. If you're going to build a new root-0.2 filesystem, then it should be stripped down to an absolute minimum that is necessary to allow the installation of further rpms, partitioning, mounting and more. Having gcc in the tarball is overkill and makes maintenance a pain. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 17:49:17 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA90188 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:49:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20876 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:48:24 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA20868; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:48:22 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA18469; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:48:21 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15906; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:48:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02559; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:45:20 +0100 Message-ID: <19980113024518.12115@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:45:18 +0100 To: Ariel Faigon Cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: The perennial bus error IRQ :-) References: <199801122130.NAA79891@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801122130.NAA79891@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:30:12PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 533 Lines: 13 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:30:12PM -0800, Ariel Faigon wrote: > Going over the linux archives I see over 5 emails > from people hitting this problem. It was upposedly already > fixed in the sources. Looks like a lot of time and grief > would be saved just by deleting the bad precompiled kernel > from linux and putting one that should work on any Indy > (R4400, R4600, R5000, with/without Scache) instead... I've fixed those problems and I hope to have time again in about a week to do more than partially read my mail. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 17:57:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA92880 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:57:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA22760 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:53:08 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA22742; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:53:07 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA19648; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:53:05 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16041; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:53:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02573; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:50:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980113025004.46983@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:50:04 +0100 To: Ariel Faigon Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The perennial bus error IRQ :-) References: <199801122130.NAA79891@oz.engr.sgi.com> <199801122148.NAA59443@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801122148.NAA59443@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:48:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 674 Lines: 17 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:48:46PM -0800, Ariel Faigon wrote: > :Going over the linux archives I see over 5 emails > :[deleted] > > Sorry for following up my own message... I realize that > there can be multiple reasons for this bus error IRQ. > I just have the feeling some people are hitting bus > errors that were already fixed just because they are > using an old precompiled kernel. I think all the bus errors have been fixed. I also think I know the reason for the reported ``--UNEXPECTED INTERRUPT'' thing on reboot. Not tested, though, no time ... Just move the cli() calls in the functions in arch/mips/sgi/prom/misc.c up before reseting the wd33c93. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 17:57:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA92970 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:57:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA23344 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:55:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA23329 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:54:59 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA20066 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:54:57 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16106 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:54:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02580; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:51:49 +0100 Message-ID: <19980113025148.55412@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 02:51:48 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Red Hat 5.0 RPMS References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 07:16:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 772 Lines: 18 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 07:16:18PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Alex - can you check all the ones you are missing against the files > > on ftp.uk.linux.org dated Dec 22nd or later. Those dated earlier than > > Jan 7th want rebuilding as they were built with buggy binutils but > > I've got several of your missing packages and fixes (like elm,mailx) > > on there > > Alright. I've merged Alan's binaries in with the distribution on linus, > giving us 353 of the 454 packages complete. Anything that's changed is in > the SRPMs directory. I also redid all the building for anything > timestampted before Jan.7. They're all signed by me, too. You should probably copy/hardlink the glibc rpms from the 4.9.1 directory. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 18:30:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA110178 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:30:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA01524 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:25:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA01517 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:25:13 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id SAA27878 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:25:11 -0800 env-from (conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From l4-00 With LocalMail ; Tue, 13 Jan 98 13:16:27 +1100 From: "K." To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:16:25 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: conradp@l4-00.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: "Andrew John O'Brien" Subject: lmbench Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 306 Lines: 13 Hi, does anyone have an rpm or binary of lmbench for r4600 indy to share? We had assembly errors when trying to compile it, and do not have time to find the problems. Any help would be appreciated, thanks -- Conrad Parker conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au Linux Life: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~conradp/linux/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 18:43:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA110861 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:43:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA05604 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:40:15 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA05582 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:40:10 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA01308 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:40:03 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.22]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17214 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 03:40:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA02790; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 03:36:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19980113033623.32297@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 03:36:23 +0100 To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: "K." , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o References: <19980112095804.26411@uni-koblenz.de> <19980112195622.35682@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980112195622.35682@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 07:56:22PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 23 On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 07:56:22PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > > um... can anyone point out where these files can be obtained? In our > > > recent install, (Indy R4600) made from the root-be-0.01 root filesystem > > > with the recent binutils-2.8.1-2, they are missing. We hacked out dummy > > > object files (crtbegin has a __main() which calls main() and crtend is > > > empty) and we can successfully compile simple programs; but before we turn > > > our attention to compiling nastier pieces of code we would like to check > > > that we have not tainted our /usr/lib :) > > > > Upgrade your system with all the rpm packages. root-0.01 was my first > > collection of Indy executables and basically_every_ ELF file has bugs in > > it ... > > but at least with the little endian gcc rpm you want get crtbegin.o and > crtend.o, because they are missing. Neither x86, alpha nor sparc have such > files (at least not in gcc), so they are missing from the redhat .spec file. > Sorry for the late bug report. I think we had that topic before. My rpm gcc-2.7.2-2 dated 971213 fixes that. Think I never uploaded it, sigh ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 18:46:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA110927 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:46:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA06757 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:46:11 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA06731 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:46:06 -0800 Received: from dm.cobaltmicro.com (dm.cobaltmicro.com [209.133.34.35]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA02697 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:46:01 -0800 env-from (davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com) Received: (from davem@localhost) by dm.cobaltmicro.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA00730; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:41:03 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:41:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199801130241.SAA00730@dm.cobaltmicro.com> From: "David S. Miller" To: conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au In-reply-to: (conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au) Subject: Re: lmbench References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 798 Lines: 21 From: "K." Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:16:25 +1100 (EST) does anyone have an rpm or binary of lmbench for r4600 indy to share? We had assembly errors when trying to compile it, and do not have time to find the problems. Any help would be appreciated, It's a generic bug in binutils that nobody has fixed yet, it generates a dynamic relocation from a unconditional jump which is larger than fits in the normal relocation... anyways I've seen this before and so nobody has a binary for lat_ctx (which is what did not compile for you). A quick hack is to get the latest beta/alpha of lmbench, which does in fact compile cleanly on mips/linux: http://reality.sgi.com/employees/lm/lmbench/lmbench2.0-alpha2.tgz Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 19:26:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA111537 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:26:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA12619 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:22:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA12590 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:22:11 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA11518 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:22:07 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA05405; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:24:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:24:17 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: "K." , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: crtbegin.o, crtend.o In-Reply-To: <19980113023659.28414@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 821 Lines: 20 On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On that note, I should probably get around to creating root-0.02 which has > > all the 'new' binaries in it... are there any more files than the ones in > > root-0.01 I should add? > > Actually I'm thinking about the opposite. root-0.02.tar.gz was a quite > fat tarball, I think it was about 20mb. I received some complaints about > it. If you're going to build a new root-0.2 filesystem, then it should Alright. Just to get the ball rolling I've put root-be-0.02.tar.gz in the GettingStarted directory. It's completely untested, as I'm a couple of miles away from my favourite aqua coloured computer. It's about 4.5MB compressed. I'd appreciate it if people could tell me if things work before I get rid of the old one. I suspect it's a little thin. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 12 20:00:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA111449 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:00:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA17186 for linux-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:54:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA17163 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:54:36 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA18926 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:54:33 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA07171 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:57:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Installation... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1458 Lines: 39 Here's how I want to do it: 1. The user boots a kernel with ramdisk either - with bootp (for those who don't have IRIX installed, or no disk space for the RPMS) - by slapping the image on '/' of the Irix fs so ARC can see it. - by putting in the RedHat/MIPS CD and booting off of it 2. Upon bootup the kernel extracts the ramdisk image which is an ultra-stripped down fs just like RH's existing boot disk. 3. The usual RH install asks questions about networks, source location, packages, etc. The user can install from: NFS, SMB, local fs, or CDROM. 4. All the RPM's are installed. 5. Some boot magic happens to setup sash/arc/whatever so booting Linux doesn't involve running anything in the text boot window. We have the following problems: 1. There's no initrd in the kernel for MIPS yet. 2. The size of the offset of the image is limited to 11 bits, or 2048k. It's easy to have a vmlinux kernel for MIPS that's larger than that, so either: a) we need to get bzImage compression happening or b) we need to use other bits in the options field to give a larger range. IIRC, there are a couple of unused ones in that set of bytes. 3. Life is _much_ better with modules, especially with EFS or SMB things. 4. Somebody needs to sort out sash magic. - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 13 04:10:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA119633 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:10:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA16365 for linux-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:04:53 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA16359 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:04:46 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA15665 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:04:43 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA01401; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:01:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:01:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199801131201.HAA01401@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Hard Drive Problems X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2472 Lines: 56 The good news is that Andrew O'Brien's "noL2" kernel gets me all the way to the SCSI detection phase. Unfortunately, my chosen hard drive doesn't seem to want to run while connected to my Indy. I'll describe the symptoms in the hope that someone may recognize something; otherwise I'll retire the drive to x86 Linux duty, where it seems to work without complaints. It's a Quantum ProDrive 1050s, and was the first external drive I purchased from my SGI dealer (1994). It worked well under IRIX 5.2 but (and this may be a coincidence) problems started after I upgraded to 5.3. I'm now running 6.2 and the problems are the same. While starting IRIX, I get the following: The system is coming up. WARNING: wd93 SCSI Bus=0 ID=3 LUN=0: SCSI cmd=0x12 timeout after 30 sec. Resetting SCSI bus WARNING: wd93 SCSI Bus=0 ID=3 LUN=0: SCSI cmd=0x1a timeout after 60 sec. Resetting SCSI bus WARNING: wd93 SCSI Bus=0 ID=3 LUN=0: SCSI cmd=0x12 timeout after 60 sec. Resetting SCSI bus WARNING: wd93 SCSI Bus=0 ID=3 LUN=0: SCSI cmd=0x2a timeout after 60 sec. Resetting SCSI bus at which point I lose patience and power off the drive; IRIX startup resumes. I prepared the drive for SGI/Linux, installing root-be-0.00 from x86 Linux. While booting vmlinux, I get the following: WD93: Driver version 1.25 compiled on Jan 7 1998 at 14:54:14 debug_flags=0x00 wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0Xff no_dma=0scsi0 : SGI WD93 scsi : 1 host. sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2c Vendor: SGI Model: IBMDSAS-3540 Rev: S47K Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 sending SDTR -REJ- Vendor: INSITE Model: I325VM *F Rev: 0387 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS Detected scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Unlocked floptical drive. sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cscsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 7, scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Inquiry 00 00 scsi0: Aborting connected command 7 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr - 20, sr=ff, 16777215 by - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command - asr = 20, sr=18. If I can't get the drive to go any further, I'll press it back into service as my x86 Linux system drive, where it has worked for over a year. That leaves me stuck at the moment for an SGI/Linux test drive. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 13 11:06:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA109077 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:06:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA04628 for linux-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:02:28 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA04617 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:02:27 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA26890 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:02:19 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA29244 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:05:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:05:18 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: vmlinux and ldd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 670 Lines: 19 1. I can now compile kernel properly, but when I try to boot them, I get errors that show a register dump within the boot monitor, or or I just get a blank screen. When I do a 'file' on the images from within Irix, the working ones are of type "ELF 32-bit MSB executable (not stripped) MIPS - version 1", mine is "ELF 32-bit MSB mips-2 executable (not stripped MIPS - version 1". What am I doing wrong? 2. ldd always segfaults on me. Does anyone have a functioning version of it? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 13 22:15:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA02473 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:15:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA26863 for linux-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:10:41 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA26859 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:10:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA05040 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:10:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:10:38 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: Linux porting team Subject: maybe the clue for the memory/boot loader problem .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 275 Lines: 11 running file on vmlinux and /unix gave me this .. vmlinux: ELF 32-bit LSB /unix: ELF N32 MSB mips-3 executable (not stripped) MIPS - version 1 I guess this would mean I have a compilation with the wrong byte order .. :-( ... so what is the endianess of the indigo ?? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 13 22:31:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA02688 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:31:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA00072 for linux-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:29:02 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA00067; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:29:00 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA02491; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:28:54 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA28085; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:31:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:31:49 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Shrijeet Mukherjee cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: maybe the clue for the memory/boot loader problem .. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 495 Lines: 16 On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: > running file on vmlinux and /unix gave me this .. > vmlinux: ELF 32-bit LSB > /unix: ELF N32 MSB mips-3 executable (not stripped) MIPS - version 1 > > I guess this would mean I have a compilation with the wrong byte order .. > :-( ... so what is the endianess of the indigo ?? Unless there's something very odd I'm missing, your Indigo will run big endian binaries only. (Oh, and I can now compile my own kernels. 2.1.72, anyone?) - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 13 22:43:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA02778 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:43:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA02063 for linux-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:40:06 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA02051 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:40:04 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA04511 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:39:57 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA28263 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:43:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:43:00 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: The world's worst RPM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 847 Lines: 26 I have generated the world's worst RPM for util-linux, which is much needed, since it contains fdisk. I had to kludge some things; util-linux is truly an awful thing. It contains things like hwclock, which sets the clock on ISA bus only machines. This is designed only for sparc, alpha and i386 _ONLY_. Anyway, I kludged it into compiling, but I really had to guess on the parameters for the disk operations. Fdisk compiles and works, but I can't really test it as I need both disks on my system. Could somebody give it a try? Also, it has things like more , write and mkswap. Yay! I now have swap space! So, give it a try, or clean up my diff files. - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 02:30:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA05954 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:30:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA00045 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:25:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA00036; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:24:51 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA13488; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:24:45 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12540; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:24:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04678; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:21:40 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114112140.30899@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:21:40 +0100 To: Shrijeet Mukherjee Cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: maybe the clue for the memory/boot loader problem .. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Shrijeet Mukherjee on Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 10:10:38PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 545 Lines: 16 On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 10:10:38PM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: > running file on vmlinux and /unix gave me this .. > > vmlinux: ELF 32-bit LSB > > /unix: ELF N32 MSB mips-3 executable (not stripped) MIPS - version 1 > > I guess this would mean I have a compilation with the wrong byte order .. > :-( ... so what is the endianess of the indigo ?? Big endian, of course. Did you just build a kernel for the default configuration of the source tree? That's for another machine which I'm usually using a my guinea test pig ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 02:32:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA05968 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:32:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA00761 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:32:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA00757 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:32:00 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA14667 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:31:55 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13033 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:31:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04742; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:28:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114112844.01873@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:28:44 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 01:43:00AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1169 Lines: 29 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 01:43:00AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > I have generated the world's worst RPM for util-linux, which is much > needed, since it contains fdisk. > > I had to kludge some things; util-linux is truly an awful thing. It > contains things like hwclock, which sets the clock on ISA bus only > machines. This is designed only for sparc, alpha and i386 _ONLY_. You must be talking about clock. As I remember hwclock is using some /dev/rtc and should be portable. Anyway, all the world is using the same rtc from Dallas Semiconductor, so ... > Anyway, I kludged it into compiling, but I really had to guess on the > parameters for the disk operations. Fdisk compiles and works, but I can't > really test it as I need both disks on my system. Could somebody give it > a try? > > Also, it has things like more , write and mkswap. Yay! I now have swap > space! > > So, give it a try, or clean up my diff files. Suicide doesn't look like a bad alternative to cleaning the diffs. And it's not your fault. Actually I rememer that somebody already put his mental health on the game, there is a glibc patch for util-linux floating around. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 05:36:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA07466 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:36:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA14887 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:30:28 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA14703 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:29:52 -0800 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA14262 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:29:29 -0800 env-from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id OAA12337; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:28:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:28:32 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Frommel To: Alex deVries cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 510 Lines: 16 > > Anyway, I kludged it into compiling, but I really had to guess on the > parameters for the disk operations. Fdisk compiles and works, but I can't > really test it as I need both disks on my system. Could somebody give it > a try? > i'll do that tomorrow (when i am back at my indy). i also wonder what you changed to not only make it compile but also work, but i guess i'll see .. :) anyway if there's still anything to work on, converning fdisk, i'd have some time to do so this weekend .. oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 06:01:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA07730 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:01:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA17898 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:58:49 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA17879 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:58:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA19835 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:58:27 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27301; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:58:22 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA23229; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114145820.04564@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:58:20 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Oliver Frommel Cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 02:28:32PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 834 Lines: 21 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 02:28:32PM +0100, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > Anyway, I kludged it into compiling, but I really had to guess on the > > parameters for the disk operations. Fdisk compiles and works, but I can't > > really test it as I need both disks on my system. Could somebody give it > > a try? > > > > i'll do that tomorrow (when i am back at my indy). > i also wonder what you changed to not only make it compile but also work, > but i guess i'll see .. :) > anyway if there's still anything to work on, converning fdisk, i'd have some > time to do so this weekend .. As I understand Alex's words he only made fdisk running but it still doesn't support IRIX style disklabels. How about that? That's aside of getting rid of sash one of the major thing we still need to do in order to get fully self hosting. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 06:35:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA07946 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:35:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA21563 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:31:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA21328 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:29:59 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA26847 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:29:51 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29598; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:29:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id PAA25634; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:29:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114152935.14483@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:29:35 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alan Cox Cc: Oliver Frommel , adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 02:36:17PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 386 Lines: 10 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 02:36:17PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > I've stuck some more new rpms on ftp.uk.linux.org incoming and SGI dir > including sox, xmorph, ncompress, sysklogd Have you taken care of the fact that ncompress makes assumptions about the byteorder of the machine it's running on? For MIPS it's broken, but I don't remember if it was on big or little endian ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 06:15:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA07844 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:15:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA19317 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:11:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA19309 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:10:59 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA22804 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:10:58 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA17291; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:10:50 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsTvW-0005FsC; Wed, 14 Jan 98 14:36 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM To: oliver@aec.at (Oliver Frommel) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:36:17 +0000 (GMT) Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Oliver Frommel" at Jan 14, 98 02:28:32 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 122 Lines: 5 I've stuck some more new rpms on ftp.uk.linux.org incoming and SGI dir including sox, xmorph, ncompress, sysklogd Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 06:46:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA08087 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA23456 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:42:47 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA23450 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:42:42 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA29979 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:42:40 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA17833; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:42:01 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsUPg-0005FsC; Wed, 14 Jan 98 15:07 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:07:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, oliver@aec.at, adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19980114152935.14483@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Jan 14, 98 03:29:35 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 280 Lines: 6 > Have you taken care of the fact that ncompress makes assumptions about > the byteorder of the machine it's running on? For MIPS it's broken, but > I don't remember if it was on big or little endian ... Its passed in the spec file. I've even port mipsel in as well for you ;) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 08:15:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA01613 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA09651 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:13:04 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA09641 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:12:59 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA24094 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:12:53 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06582 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:15:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 335 Lines: 13 ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.72.tar.gz is available for your usage and testing. If there are no complaints I'll archive 2.1.67. - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 08:39:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA01820 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:39:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA14741 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:35:28 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA14726 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:35:23 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA00579 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:35:20 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07711; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:38:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:38:18 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM In-Reply-To: <19980114112844.01873@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1227 Lines: 31 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 01:43:00AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > I have generated the world's worst RPM for util-linux, which is much > > needed, since it contains fdisk. > > I had to kludge some things; util-linux is truly an awful thing. It > > contains things like hwclock, which sets the clock on ISA bus only > > machines. This is designed only for sparc, alpha and i386 _ONLY_. > You must be talking about clock. As I remember hwclock is using some > /dev/rtc and should be portable. Anyway, all the world is using the > same rtc from Dallas Semiconductor, so ... On closer inspection it's just a matter of doing something like: #ifdef ISA_BUS (ISA specific routines that use iopl()) #endif Yes, it is fixable. > Suicide doesn't look like a bad alternative to cleaning the diffs. And > it's not your fault. Actually I rememer that somebody already put his > mental health on the game, there is a glibc patch for util-linux floating > around. Yeah. Those are in the source RPM, and I'm using them. There's a lot of #ifdef __SPARC__ or similiar statements that need to be fixed for mips. I really think this should be broken into multiple packages. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 08:41:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA01834 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:41:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA15893 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA15887 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:35 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id IAA02026 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:28 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07933; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:42:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: Oliver Frommel , SGI Linux Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM In-Reply-To: <19980114145820.04564@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 391 Lines: 10 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > As I understand Alex's words he only made fdisk running but it still doesn't > support IRIX style disklabels. How about that? That's correct. It should be able to modify partition tables of disks, but Irix won't recognize it. That's no problem if you have no intention of using Irix once your machine is running smoothly, like me. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:06:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02272 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:06:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA22115 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:02:53 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22106 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:02:51 -0800 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA08681 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:02:49 -0800 env-from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16093; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:02:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26251; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:02:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA01094; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:02:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801141702.SAA01094@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jan 14, 98 11:15:40 am" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:02:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 588 Lines: 14 > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.72.tar.gz > is available for your usage and testing. If there are no complaints I'll > archive 2.1.67. Could we also ask for the noL2 version? The 2.1.67-noL2 runs great, we got the system installed with RH 5.0 (some rpms from 4.9.1) and it look very well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:06:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02264 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:06:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA22706 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:04:23 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22625 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:04:12 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA09070 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:04:09 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA09163 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:07:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:07:15 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: 2.1.72 precompiled with no L2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 340 Lines: 12 ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-noL2-2.1.72.tar.gz is available for your usage and testing. This is for machines with no L2 cache. I can't test it myself, since my machine does have that cache. Should L2 cache perhaps be a compiling option? Is it possible for the kernel to auto-detect if there's cache or not? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:08:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02312 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:08:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA23805 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:08:25 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA23801; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:08:24 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA16647; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:08:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:08:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199801141708.JAA16647@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Shrijeet Mukherjee Cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: maybe the clue for the memory/boot loader problem .. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 626 Lines: 17 Shrijeet Mukherjee writes: > > > running file on vmlinux and /unix gave me this .. > > vmlinux: ELF 32-bit LSB > > /unix: ELF N32 MSB mips-3 executable (not stripped) MIPS - version 1 > > I guess this would mean I have a compilation with the wrong byte order .. > :-( ... so what is the endianess of the indigo ?? Yes, you do. Indigo, like all SGI systems, is big-endian ("MSB"). Among MIPS-based systems, DEC and the ARC MIPS NT systems are the primary little-endian systems. All the MIPS ABI-capable systems are big-endian. (A few, notably the MIPS Magnum and Millenium systems, can be either.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:18:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02484 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA25570 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:14:48 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA25566 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:14:46 -0800 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA12820 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:14:44 -0800 env-from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16582; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:14:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26613; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:14:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA01788; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:13:58 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801141713.SAA01788@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jan 14, 98 11:15:40 am" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:13:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 719 Lines: 18 > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.72.tar.gz > is available for your usage and testing. If there are no complaints I'll > archive 2.1.67. Please disregard my previous post, I've got the noL2 version. However, after the boot (via bootp) the screen goes blank and that's it -- no boot messages come. It doesn't however crash visibly as the yesL2. It's R4600PC and 2.1.67 runs OK on it -- I can send more info if applicable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:37:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02882 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:37:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA01381 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:35:11 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA01355 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:35:10 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id JAA19794 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:35:08 -0800 env-from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From ives With LocalMail ; Thu, 15 Jan 98 04:34:30 +1100 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: Honza Pazdziora Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:34:29 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: andrewo@ives.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... In-Reply-To: <199801141713.SAA01788@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1300 Lines: 33 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > > > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.72.tar.gz > > is available for your usage and testing. If there are no complaints I'll > > archive 2.1.67. > > Please disregard my previous post, I've got the noL2 version. > > However, after the boot (via bootp) the screen goes blank and that's > it -- no boot messages come. It doesn't however crash visibly as the > yesL2. > > It's R4600PC and 2.1.67 runs OK on it -- I can send more info if > applicable. I wont be able to test the new binary for at least another 24 hrs (the indy is in use by someone else at the moment) but I will try out the new kernel as soon as possible if noone else comes up with either supporting crashes or reports of success. Alex - I can send you the .config from the successful compile I did on the 2.1.67 if you need it. cya --___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \___ "finger -l andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ___/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 09:52:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA03083 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:52:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA05997 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:48:44 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA05983; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:48:42 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA16843; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:48:34 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:48:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199801141748.JAA16843@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled with no L2 In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1293 Lines: 25 Alex deVries writes: > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-noL2-2.1.72.tar.gz > is available for your usage and testing. > > This is for machines with no L2 cache. I can't test it myself, since my > machine does have that cache. > > Should L2 cache perhaps be a compiling option? Is it possible for the > kernel to auto-detect if there's cache or not? The L2 cache should absolutely be detected at runtime. For the R4000 and R4400, the presence of the L2 cache is in the config register (SC bit == 0 means L2 cache is present). For the Indy R4600 and R5000 systems, an off-chip secondary cache controller is used, so you have to probe the address of the controller to tell if it is present, or you have to read the configuration bits from the EEPROM which contains the memory controller and processor initialization bits as well. The EEPROM contains both an "L2 present" bit and some bits which encode the size of the L2 cache, which has, however, always been 512 KB. On O2, the presence of the L2 cache, for R5000 or R10000, is encoded in the config register. (We did not use the R5000's builtin L2 cache controller on Indy, because the required cache RAMs were not available in time, and the R4600 L2 cache controller could be reused without change.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 10:46:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA03981 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:46:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA24262 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:45:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA24233 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:44:56 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA14370 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:44:54 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17346; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:44:52 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA09084; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:44:51 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114194450.12239@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:44:50 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled with no L2 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 12:07:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 536 Lines: 15 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 12:07:15PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-noL2-2.1.72.tar.gz > is available for your usage and testing. > > This is for machines with no L2 cache. I can't test it myself, since my > machine does have that cache. > > Should L2 cache perhaps be a compiling option? Is it possible for the > kernel to auto-detect if there's cache or not? I think I've already posted a dozen times that I've fixed this, I just don't have the time to clean it up and commit. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 13:14:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA10726 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:14:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA12851 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:10:26 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA12833 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:10:25 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA01905 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:10:21 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:10:19 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xsa4P-002OinC; Wed, 14 Jan 98 22:09 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA02426; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:58:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19980114215847.36294@alpha.franken.de> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:58:47 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: <19980114152935.14483@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:07:27PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 919 Lines: 19 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:07:27PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Have you taken care of the fact that ncompress makes assumptions about > > the byteorder of the machine it's running on? For MIPS it's broken, but > > I don't remember if it was on big or little endian ... > > Its passed in the spec file. I've even port mipsel in as well for you ;) hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 13:54:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA13707 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:54:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA26857 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:52:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA26847 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:51:59 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA14667 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:51:55 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA25949; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:51:52 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsb7r-0005FsC; Wed, 14 Jan 98 22:17 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:17:31 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19980114215847.36294@alpha.franken.de> from "Thomas Bogendoerfer" at Jan 14, 98 09:58:47 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 411 Lines: 8 > hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from > rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, > that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because > there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes > like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? Just ask Erik Troan nicely From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 14:27:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA14302 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:27:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA07049 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:23:39 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA06986 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:23:34 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA24834 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:23:30 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA31525; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:25:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:25:31 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 665 Lines: 15 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from > > rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, > > that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because > > there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes > > like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? > Just ask Erik Troan nicely He has already agreed to it, I just need to submit my patches to RPM that do the detection of the byte order for setting the soft-coded default architecture. It'll be done by the end of the week. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 15:52:16 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA16565 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:52:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA05463 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:48:58 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05382 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:48:47 -0800 Received: from smtp2.cerf.net (smtp2.cerf.net [192.102.249.31]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA21211 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:48:44 -0800 env-from (bellis@cerf.net) Received: from maelstrom (maelstrom.cerf.net [198.137.140.16]) by smtp2.cerf.net (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA19257 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:48:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:50:22 -0800 From: William Ellis Organization: TCG - CERFNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux porting team Subject: boot problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 819 Lines: 19 I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) Initially booting via tftp with various errors, I am now trying to just get the sash boot -f to work. I have tried several of the applicable precompiled kernels at ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test all with similar errors: Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.2 ARCS Mar 9, 1996 (32 Bit) sash: boot -f /vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 1278928+236160 entry: 0x8800250c newport_probe: read back wrong value ;-( What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about the machine is it has a fddi card in it, (which I do not need to get going for linux). Could this error be an effect of the fddi card being present, or that there is no graphics card present? Or am I missing something else all together? Thanks in Advance, Bill From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 15:56:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA15508 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA07701 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:55:31 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA07693; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:55:29 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA09106; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:55:29 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801142355.PAA09106@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: boot problem To: bellis@cerf.net (William Ellis) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:55:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> from "William Ellis" at Jan 14, 98 03:50:22 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 973 Lines: 28 : :I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same :hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) : :Initially booting via tftp with various errors, I am :now trying to just get the sash boot -f to work. :I have tried several of the applicable precompiled kernels :at ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test all with similar errors: : :Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.2 ARCS Mar 9, 1996 (32 Bit) :sash: boot -f /vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 :1278928+236160 entry: 0x8800250c :newport_probe: read back wrong value ;-( : :What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about :the machine is it has a fddi card in it, (which I do not :need to get going for linux). Could this error be an effect :of the fddi card being present, or that there is no graphics :card present? Or am I missing something else all together? :Thanks in Advance, Bill : Newport == Indy graphics So I guess the code should be changed so it doesn't assume there's a newport hardware. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 15:58:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA16714 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08422 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:18 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08412; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA06740; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: William Ellis cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem In-Reply-To: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 598 Lines: 17 -> ->What is the newport_probe? newport is the internal name for indy graphics .. and u are missing one ;-) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:10:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA16998 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:10:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA13046 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:10:03 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA13038 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:10:01 -0800 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA27544 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:07:40 -0800 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07990; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:59:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:59:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199801142359.RAA07990@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19980114215847.36294@alpha.franken.de> (message from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:58:47 +0100) Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM X-Windows: A terminal disease. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 570 Lines: 12 > hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from > rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, > that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because > there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes > like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? The code should be fixed to autoconfigure itself by using the __LITTLE_ENDIAN and __BIG_ENDIAN macros that are defined somewhere in /usr/include. And ship the patch with this. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:03:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA14319 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:03:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA09302 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:00:41 -0800 Received: from daddyo.engr.sgi.com (daddyo.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.110]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA09298; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:00:40 -0800 Received: (from marker@localhost) by daddyo.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA78366; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:00:39 -0800 (PST) From: marker@daddyo.engr.sgi.com (Charles Marker) Message-Id: <199801150000.QAA78366@daddyo.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: boot problem To: bellis@cerf.net (William Ellis) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:00:39 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> from "William Ellis" at Jan 14, 98 03:50:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1344 Lines: 32 > > I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same > hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) > > Initially booting via tftp with various errors, I am > now trying to just get the sash boot -f to work. > I have tried several of the applicable precompiled kernels > at ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test all with similar errors: > > Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.2 ARCS Mar 9, 1996 (32 Bit) > sash: boot -f /vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 > 1278928+236160 entry: 0x8800250c > newport_probe: read back wrong value ;-( > > What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about > the machine is it has a fddi card in it, (which I do not > need to get going for linux). Could this error be an effect > of the fddi card being present, or that there is no graphics > card present? Or am I missing something else all together? > Thanks in Advance, Bill > Newport is the name of the graphics on Indy systems which is removed on Challenge S systems. As I mentioned previously, I believe that Challenge S systems also have the ISDN and AV hardware removed. One difference which I forgot to mention the other day was that the Challenge S has a car which plugs into the newport spot and provides extra ethernets and differential SCSI (WD95 I believe). I believe that the SCSI controller on the system board is still WD93. Charles From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:07:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA16946 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:07:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA11742 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:06:56 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA11732 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:06:55 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA27344 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:06:53 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-17.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.17]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03560 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:06:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA05793; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:03:37 +0100 Message-ID: <19980115010335.21821@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:03:35 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: Alan Cox , Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 05:25:31PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 867 Lines: 18 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 05:25:31PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > > hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from > > > rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, > > > that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because > > > there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes > > > like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? > > Just ask Erik Troan nicely > > He has already agreed to it, I just need to submit my patches to RPM that > do the detection of the byte order for setting the soft-coded default > architecture. It'll be done by the end of the week. Ah, you were the volunteer :-) Recently I fixed RPM already, so we should somewhen deciede who's patch is the nicer. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:14:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA17095 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:14:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA13540 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:22 -0800 Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA13525 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:21 -0800 Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id TAA14666; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:11:19 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA20883; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <34BD5425.42EBC033@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:11:17 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Ellis CC: Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem References: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 41 William Ellis wrote: > > I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same > hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) > > Initially booting via tftp with various errors, I am > now trying to just get the sash boot -f to work. > I have tried several of the applicable precompiled kernels > at ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test all with similar errors: > > Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.2 ARCS Mar 9, 1996 (32 Bit) > sash: boot -f /vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 > 1278928+236160 entry: 0x8800250c > newport_probe: read back wrong value ;-( > > What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about > the machine is it has a fddi card in it, (which I do not > need to get going for linux). Could this error be an effect > of the fddi card being present, or that there is no graphics > card present? Or am I missing something else all together? > Thanks in Advance, Bill A MAJOR difference in the ChallengeS is that it has differential SCSI controllers as well as the Indy SingleEnded controller. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:34:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA17557 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:34:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA19600 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:31:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA19591 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:31:32 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA04111 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:31:29 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05417 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:31:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA05839; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:26:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19980115012622.51359@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:26:22 +0100 To: William Ellis Cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem References: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net>; from William Ellis on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:50:22PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1679 Lines: 38 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:50:22PM -0800, William Ellis wrote: > I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same > hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) > > Initially booting via tftp with various errors, I am > now trying to just get the sash boot -f to work. > I have tried several of the applicable precompiled kernels > at ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test all with similar errors: > > Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.2 ARCS Mar 9, 1996 (32 Bit) > sash: boot -f /vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 > 1278928+236160 entry: 0x8800250c > newport_probe: read back wrong value ;-( > > What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about > the machine is it has a fddi card in it, (which I do not > need to get going for linux). Could this error be an effect > of the fddi card being present, or that there is no graphics > card present? Or am I missing something else all together? No, the FDDI card is just being ignored by Linux. The problem is indeed the fact that the newport GFX card isn't installed. I'll take a look at it when I have time for more than one breath per minute ... Thinking about it, the kernel should only try to touch the gfx hardware at all, if the ARC environment variable ``console'' is unset. If you want to run from a serial console, then the variable's value should be either ``d1'' or ``d2'' for the first rsp. second serial interface. I suppose IRIX just defaults to serial console because it knows that a Challenge S is headless or after a failed probe for gfx hardware. William, what is the recommended way to recognice whethere a machine is a Indy or Challenge S? Probing for a GFX card or checking via ARC firmware? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:09:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA16974 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:09:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA12685 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:08:40 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA12681 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:08:39 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA27729 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:08:38 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA28237; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:08:32 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsdGA-0005FsC; Thu, 15 Jan 98 00:34 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: boot problem To: bellis@cerf.net (William Ellis) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:34:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> from "William Ellis" at Jan 14, 98 03:50:22 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 196 Lines: 9 > I'm working with a Challenge S, R5000 (Allegedly the same > hardware as an Indy without a graphics card) Nod > What is the newport_probe? The only non-stock thing about The graphics card.. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 16:59:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA19199 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:59:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA27870 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:59 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA27844; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:50 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA17975; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:38 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199801150056.QAA17975@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: William Ellis , Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem In-Reply-To: <19980115012622.51359@uni-koblenz.de> References: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> <19980115012622.51359@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2196 Lines: 50 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: ... > No, the FDDI card is just being ignored by Linux. The problem is > indeed the fact that the newport GFX card isn't installed. I'll > take a look at it when I have time for more than one breath > per minute ... > > Thinking about it, the kernel should only try to touch the gfx hardware > at all, if the ARC environment variable ``console'' is unset. If you > want to run from a serial console, then the variable's value should be > either ``d1'' or ``d2'' for the first rsp. second serial interface. > I suppose IRIX just defaults to serial console because it knows that > a Challenge S is headless or after a failed probe for gfx hardware. IRIX probes for the graphics card. If the probe fails, it assumes this is not one. If there is no graphics, or if console != g, it sets the system console to the serial port. Note, however, that IRIX normally puts up an X login on the graphics head even if console=d and thus the console is on the serial port. This seems like a reasonable approach for linux as well. > William, what is the recommended way to recognice whethere a machine > is a Indy or Challenge S? Probing for a GFX card or checking via > ARC firmware? I would probe for the graphics card. If you try to fetch from the configuration register and get a bus error, or if the returned value is wrong, assume no graphics. You can check that you can read from the first register location (0x1f0f0000); if there is a bus error, there is no graphics. Then check that the GFXBUSY bit (0x8) in the status register at 0x1f0f1338 turns off within about 300 ms. The IRIX driver also does this to check that the card is alive: /* * Write an int into the 16-bit xstarti register. * Read it back from the fixed-point xstartf register. * The format is 16 bits of integer, 4 bits of fraction, * all << 7. In this case, the fraction is 0, so we expect * to read (0x12348765 & 0xffff) << 11. */ rex3->set.xstarti = 0x12348765; if ( rex3->set._xstart.word == ((0x12348765 & 0xffff) << 11) ) { ng1_probed[index] = NG1_FOUND; return 1; } set.xstarti is 0x1f0f0148 and set._xstart.word is 0x1f0f0100. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 20:00:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA30061 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:00:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA11467 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:03 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA11458 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:54:57 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA25666 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:54:52 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA15565; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:56:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:56:58 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ewt@redhat.com cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, SGI Linux Subject: mipseb and mipsel patches to RPM... In-Reply-To: <19980115010335.21821@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3809 Lines: 145 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Ah, you were the volunteer :-) Recently I fixed RPM already, so we should > somewhen deciede who's patch is the nicer. Erik, Feel free to apply either Ralf's or my patch (below my .sig). It supports auto-byte order detection in defaultMachine(), and patches to the rpmrc and rpm.magic files to change the name to mipseb and mipsel. I've made little-endian mips 11, and renamed the existing mips to mipseb. - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. z diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c Tue Jan 13 16:08:24 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c Wed Jan 14 19:07:28 1998 *************** *** 669,674 **** --- 669,681 ---- char * chptr; struct canonEntry * canon; + #if defined (__mips) + union { + long l; + char c[sizeof (long)]; + } u; + #endif + if (!gotDefaults) { uname(&un); if (!strcmp(un.sysname, "AIX")) { *************** *** 681,686 **** --- 688,702 ---- chptr = un.machine; while (*chptr++) if (*chptr == '/') *chptr = '-'; + + #if defined(__mips) + u.l = 1; + if (u.c[sizeof (long) - 1] == 1) { + strcpy(un.machine, "mipseb"); + } else { + strcpy(un.machine, "mipsel"); + } + #endif #if defined(__hpux) && defined(_SC_CPU_VERSION) { diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in Wed Jan 14 18:41:13 1998 *************** *** 41,47 **** arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 # This is really a place holder for MIPS. ! arch_canon: mips: mips 4 arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 --- 41,47 ---- arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 # This is really a place holder for MIPS. ! arch_canon: mipseb: mipseb 4 arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 *************** *** 50,55 **** --- 50,56 ---- arch_canon: 9000/712: hppa1.1 9 arch_canon: sun4u: usparc 10 + arch_canon: mipsel: mipsel 11 ############################################################# # Canonical OS names and numbers *************** *** 118,124 **** arch_compat: sparc: noarch arch_compat: ppc: noarch ! arch_compat: mips: noarch arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch --- 119,126 ---- arch_compat: sparc: noarch arch_compat: ppc: noarch ! arch_compat: mipseb: noarch ! arch_compat: mipsel: noarch arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch *************** *** 137,140 **** buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mips: noarch --- 139,144 ---- buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mipsel: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mipseb: noarch ! diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic Wed Jan 14 16:43:43 1998 *************** *** 10,17 **** >>8 beshort 1 i386 >>8 beshort 2 Alpha >>8 beshort 3 Sparc ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC >>8 beshort 6 68000 >>8 beshort 7 SGI >>10 string x %s --- 10,18 ---- >>8 beshort 1 i386 >>8 beshort 2 Alpha >>8 beshort 3 Sparc ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS big endian >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC >>8 beshort 6 68000 >>8 beshort 7 SGI + >>8 beshort 11 MIPS little endian >>10 string x %s From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 21:24:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA29546 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:24:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA21485 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:18:34 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA21476; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:18:29 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA12441; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:18:27 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-05.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.5]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14440; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:18:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA06339; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:15:19 +0100 Message-ID: <19980115061519.46558@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:15:19 +0100 To: "William J. Earl" Cc: William Ellis , Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem References: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> <19980115012622.51359@uni-koblenz.de> <199801150056.QAA17975@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801150056.QAA17975@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:56:38PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1382 Lines: 27 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:56:38PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > Thinking about it, the kernel should only try to touch the gfx hardware > > at all, if the ARC environment variable ``console'' is unset. If you > > want to run from a serial console, then the variable's value should be > > either ``d1'' or ``d2'' for the first rsp. second serial interface. > > I suppose IRIX just defaults to serial console because it knows that > > a Challenge S is headless or after a failed probe for gfx hardware. > > IRIX probes for the graphics card. If the probe fails, it > assumes this is not one. If there is no graphics, or if console != g, > it sets the system console to the serial port. Note, however, that > IRIX normally puts up an X login on the graphics head even if > console=d and thus the console is on the serial port. This seems > like a reasonable approach for linux as well. Indeed, this is how Linux will behave after the probe / console env thing is fixed. I assume your more than minimal necessary probe has the purpose to make shut that the machine does not only have gfx but also that the gfx found in the address space is not something else like the XZ for example? William Ellis: could you try to set the ARC environment variable ``console'' to d1 / d2 according to the port you're using and run the kernel you've tested once again? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 21:29:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA31378 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:29:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA22406 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:29:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA22401 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:29:00 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA14222 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:28:59 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14658 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA06370; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:25:01 +0100 Message-ID: <19980115062501.64925@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:25:01 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: ewt@redhat.com, SGI Linux Subject: Re: mipseb and mipsel patches to RPM... References: <19980115010335.21821@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 10:56:58PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3924 Lines: 142 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 10:56:58PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: You can solve the byteorder detection issue more efficient at compile time by something like: #if defined(__MIPSEL__) || defined(__MIPSEL) || defined(_MIPSEL) /* little endian */ strcpy(un.machine, "mipsel"); #else #if defined(__MIPSEB__) || defined(__MIPSEB) || defined(_MIPSEB) /* big endian */ strcpy(un.machine, "mipseb"); #else /* This doesn't happen (TM) */ #endif #endif Other than that my patch is almost down to the byte the same. Ralf > diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c > *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c Tue Jan 13 16:08:24 1998 > --- rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c Wed Jan 14 19:07:28 1998 > *************** > *** 669,674 **** > --- 669,681 ---- > char * chptr; > struct canonEntry * canon; > > + #if defined (__mips) > + union { > + long l; > + char c[sizeof (long)]; > + } u; > + #endif > + > if (!gotDefaults) { > uname(&un); > if (!strcmp(un.sysname, "AIX")) { > *************** > *** 681,686 **** > --- 688,702 ---- > chptr = un.machine; > while (*chptr++) > if (*chptr == '/') *chptr = '-'; > + > + #if defined(__mips) > + u.l = 1; > + if (u.c[sizeof (long) - 1] == 1) { > + strcpy(un.machine, "mipseb"); > + } else { > + strcpy(un.machine, "mipsel"); > + } > + #endif > > #if defined(__hpux) && defined(_SC_CPU_VERSION) > { > diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in > *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 > --- rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in Wed Jan 14 18:41:13 1998 > *************** > *** 41,47 **** > arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 > arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 > # This is really a place holder for MIPS. > ! arch_canon: mips: mips 4 > arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 > arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 > arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 > --- 41,47 ---- > arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 > arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 > # This is really a place holder for MIPS. > ! arch_canon: mipseb: mipseb 4 > arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 > arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 > arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 > *************** > *** 50,55 **** > --- 50,56 ---- > arch_canon: 9000/712: hppa1.1 9 > > arch_canon: sun4u: usparc 10 > + arch_canon: mipsel: mipsel 11 > > ############################################################# > # Canonical OS names and numbers > *************** > *** 118,124 **** > arch_compat: sparc: noarch > > arch_compat: ppc: noarch > ! arch_compat: mips: noarch > > arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 > arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch > --- 119,126 ---- > arch_compat: sparc: noarch > > arch_compat: ppc: noarch > ! arch_compat: mipseb: noarch > ! arch_compat: mipsel: noarch > > arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 > arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch > *************** > *** 137,140 **** > buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch > buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch > buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch > ! buildarch_compat: mips: noarch > --- 139,144 ---- > buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch > buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch > buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch > ! buildarch_compat: mipsel: noarch > ! buildarch_compat: mipseb: noarch > ! > diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic > *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 > --- rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic Wed Jan 14 16:43:43 1998 > *************** > *** 10,17 **** > >>8 beshort 1 i386 > >>8 beshort 2 Alpha > >>8 beshort 3 Sparc > ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS > >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC > >>8 beshort 6 68000 > >>8 beshort 7 SGI > >>10 string x %s > --- 10,18 ---- > >>8 beshort 1 i386 > >>8 beshort 2 Alpha > >>8 beshort 3 Sparc > ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS big endian > >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC > >>8 beshort 6 68000 > >>8 beshort 7 SGI > + >>8 beshort 11 MIPS little endian > >>10 string x %s From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 14 22:15:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA31901 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:15:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA26367 for linux-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:10:57 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA26361; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:10:55 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA18877; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:10:45 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:10:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199801150610.WAA18877@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: "William J. Earl" , William Ellis , Linux porting team Subject: Re: boot problem In-Reply-To: <19980115061519.46558@uni-koblenz.de> References: <34BD4F3E.7F86@cerf.net> <19980115012622.51359@uni-koblenz.de> <199801150056.QAA17975@fir.engr.sgi.com> <19980115061519.46558@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1438 Lines: 26 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:56:38PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > > > Thinking about it, the kernel should only try to touch the gfx hardware > > > at all, if the ARC environment variable ``console'' is unset. If you > > > want to run from a serial console, then the variable's value should be > > > either ``d1'' or ``d2'' for the first rsp. second serial interface. > > > I suppose IRIX just defaults to serial console because it knows that > > > a Challenge S is headless or after a failed probe for gfx hardware. > > > > IRIX probes for the graphics card. If the probe fails, it > > assumes this is not one. If there is no graphics, or if console != g, > > it sets the system console to the serial port. Note, however, that > > IRIX normally puts up an X login on the graphics head even if > > console=d and thus the console is on the serial port. This seems > > like a reasonable approach for linux as well. > > Indeed, this is how Linux will behave after the probe / console env > thing is fixed. I assume your more than minimal necessary probe has the > purpose to make shut that the machine does not only have gfx but also > that the gfx found in the address space is not something else like the > XZ for example? ... Yes, that is correct. Also, it means that the system will come up with a serial console if the graphics board is completely dead. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 05:46:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA37959 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:46:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA15558 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:41:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA15553 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:41:27 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com ([199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA18338 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:41:21 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA03707; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:40:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:40:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199801151340.IAA03707@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Follow-up: Hard Drive Problems X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 429 Lines: 16 Modifications to /var/sysgen/master.d/wd93 (courtesy of dealer tech support) have permitted my hard drive to be recognized by IRIX. I successfully ran mke2fs on it and I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Is there any further news on Mike Shaver's installer script? Barring that, what would be the next step in installing Alex' root-be-0.02 from IRIX? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 05:47:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA38006 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:47:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA16017 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:45:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA16010 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:45:49 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com ([199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA19023 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:45:47 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA03709; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:44:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:44:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199801151344.IAA03709@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Honza Pazdziora Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries), linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... In-Reply-To: <199801141713.SAA01788@aisa.fi.muni.cz> References: <199801141713.SAA01788@aisa.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 281 Lines: 12 Honza Pazdziora writes: > > However, after the boot (via bootp) the screen goes blank and that's > it -- no boot messages come. It doesn't however crash visibly as the > yesL2. The result here is the same (noL2 version). -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 09:51:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA43104 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:51:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA26180 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:47:06 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA26139 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:47:01 -0800 Received: from neon.ingenia.ca (neon.ingenia.ca [205.207.220.57]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA08584 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:46:59 -0800 env-from (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) Received: (from shaver@localhost) by neon.ingenia.ca (8.8.5/8.8.7) id MAA24761; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:39 -0500 From: Mike Shaver Message-Id: <199801151747.MAA24761@neon.ingenia.ca> Subject: Re: Follow-up: Hard Drive Problems In-Reply-To: <199801151340.IAA03707@mdhill.interlog.com> from Michael Hill at "Jan 15, 98 08:40:32 am" To: mdhill@interlog.com Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 898 Lines: 21 Thus spake Michael Hill: > Modifications to /var/sysgen/master.d/wd93 (courtesy of dealer tech > support) have permitted my hard drive to be recognized by IRIX. I > successfully ran mke2fs on it and I'm trying to figure out what to do > next. Is there any further news on Mike Shaver's installer script? As of yesterday, there _is_ news: I've escaped the Great Ice Storm and beat INS and AIESEC at their own game, so I'm back in California and almost ready to put a working version of the installer package up, with new libc from Ralf and a working rpm binary from Alan. This should happen tonight sometime. In the meantime, you can get Alan's installer package from ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/SGI/sgi-installer-snapshot-0.0.tar.gz and copy the file named a.out into the directory where the instructions would have you looking for "installer". That's all that program is anyway. Mike From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 10:32:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA48647 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:32:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA10964 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:30:20 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA10924 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:30:14 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA23308 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:30:09 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10381; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:32:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:32:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Michael Hill cc: Honza Pazdziora , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.1.72 precompiled on Linus... In-Reply-To: <199801151344.IAA03709@mdhill.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 489 Lines: 16 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > Honza Pazdziora writes: > > However, after the boot (via bootp) the screen goes blank and that's > > it -- no boot messages come. It doesn't however crash visibly as the > > yesL2. > The result here is the same (noL2 version). The with-L2 version worked on my machine, but it never put anything on the console. I didn't notice that the first time because in the end it booted just fine. Uh, let me have another look at the config... - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 10:40:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA51109 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:40:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA14558 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:39:35 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA14552 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:39:33 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA26276 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:39:32 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA11078; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:42:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:42:39 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Michael Hill cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Follow-up: Hard Drive Problems In-Reply-To: <199801151340.IAA03707@mdhill.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1036 Lines: 28 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > Modifications to /var/sysgen/master.d/wd93 (courtesy of dealer tech > support) have permitted my hard drive to be recognized by IRIX. I > successfully ran mke2fs on it and I'm trying to figure out what to do > next. Is there any further news on Mike Shaver's installer script? I don't know about Mike's installer, but I'm working now on getting initrd and a ramdisk together that'll let you do the install from Linux. Give me a week. > Barring that, what would be the next step in installing Alex' > root-be-0.02 from IRIX? The current method that _will_ work is putting the kernel on your EFS drive, and mounting up your root filesystem with tftp and nfs. That assumes that you don't have problems getting another machine on the network. I have no idea if root-be-0.002 actually works, either. I should probably try that. root=be-0.00 will, though. Oh, and as soon as we have a functional ssh server, I can consider giving accounts on my machine for development purposes. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 11:00:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA51641 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:00:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA21879 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:56:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21872 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:56:40 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA02173 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:56:28 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12013; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:59:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:59:05 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ewt@redhat.com cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, SGI Linux Subject: Re: mipseb and mipsel patches to RPM... In-Reply-To: <19980115062501.64925@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3465 Lines: 128 Erik, Please consider this as the final patch for the mips byteorder issue. It'd be nice to get this into the next version of rpm (101?). Thanks! - Alex diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib/rpmrc.c Tue Jan 13 16:08:24 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/lib/rpmrc.c Thu Jan 15 12:21:29 1998 *************** *** 682,687 **** --- 682,699 ---- while (*chptr++) if (*chptr == '/') *chptr = '-'; + #if defined(__MIPSEL__) || defined(__MIPSEL) || defined(_MIPSEL) + /* little endian */ + strcpy(un.machine, "mipsel"); + #else + #if defined(__MIPSEB__) || defined(__MIPSEB) || defined(_MIPSEB) + /* big endian */ + strcpy(un.machine, "mipseb"); + #else + /* This doesn't happen (TM) */ + #endif + #endif + #if defined(__hpux) && defined(_SC_CPU_VERSION) { int cpu_version = sysconf(_SC_CPU_VERSION); diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/lib-rpmrc.in Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/lib-rpmrc.in Wed Jan 14 18:41:13 1998 *************** *** 41,47 **** arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 # This is really a place holder for MIPS. ! arch_canon: mips: mips 4 arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 --- 41,47 ---- arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 # This is really a place holder for MIPS. ! arch_canon: mipseb: mipseb 4 arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 *************** *** 50,55 **** --- 50,56 ---- arch_canon: 9000/712: hppa1.1 9 arch_canon: sun4u: usparc 10 + arch_canon: mipsel: mipsel 11 ############################################################# # Canonical OS names and numbers *************** *** 118,124 **** arch_compat: sparc: noarch arch_compat: ppc: noarch ! arch_compat: mips: noarch arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch --- 119,126 ---- arch_compat: sparc: noarch arch_compat: ppc: noarch ! arch_compat: mipseb: noarch ! arch_compat: mipsel: noarch arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch *************** *** 137,140 **** buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mips: noarch --- 139,144 ---- buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mipsel: noarch ! buildarch_compat: mipseb: noarch ! diff -rc rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic *** rpm-2.4.99.orig/rpm.magic Tue Jan 13 16:08:23 1998 --- rpm-2.4.99/rpm.magic Wed Jan 14 16:43:43 1998 *************** *** 10,17 **** >>8 beshort 1 i386 >>8 beshort 2 Alpha >>8 beshort 3 Sparc ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC >>8 beshort 6 68000 >>8 beshort 7 SGI >>10 string x %s --- 10,18 ---- >>8 beshort 1 i386 >>8 beshort 2 Alpha >>8 beshort 3 Sparc ! >>8 beshort 4 MIPS big endian >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC >>8 beshort 6 68000 >>8 beshort 7 SGI + >>8 beshort 11 MIPS little endian >>10 string x %s -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 11:13:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA52386 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:13:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA28871 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA28821 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:11 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA07836 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:10 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA15662; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:10:54 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsv66-0005FsC; Thu, 15 Jan 98 19:37 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Follow-up: Hard Drive Problems To: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca (Mike Shaver) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:37:01 +0000 (GMT) Cc: mdhill@interlog.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199801151747.MAA24761@neon.ingenia.ca> from "Mike Shaver" at Jan 15, 98 12:47:39 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 307 Lines: 9 > almost ready to put a working version of the installer package up, > with new libc from Ralf and a working rpm binary from Alan. Please bin my RPM and grab the latest and greatest rpm*.mips.rpm from linus - now Ralf has done his magic on binutils rpm works properly and all is happy in the world. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 11:47:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA52788 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:47:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA11037 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA11028 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:40 -0800 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA20174 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:38 -0800 env-from (ewt@redhat.com) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13602; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:44:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:44:59 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: Alex deVries cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, SGI Linux Subject: Re: mipseb and mipsel patches to RPM... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 712 Lines: 18 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > Please consider this as the final patch for the mips byteorder > issue. It'd be nice to get this into the next version of rpm (101?). I'll get this in the next version. In the guture, please use unified diffs though -- they tend to be easier to deal with. Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "For the next two hours, VH1 will be filled with foul-mouthed, | | crossdressing Australians. Viewer discretion is advised." | | | | Erik Troan = ewt@redhat.com = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu | From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 11:55:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA52855 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:55:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA13024 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:51:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13005 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:51:45 -0800 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (lacrosse.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA21667 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:51:36 -0800 env-from (ewt@redhat.com) Received: from localhost (ewt@localhost) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA14391; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:51:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Troan To: Alex deVries cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, SGI Linux Subject: Re: mipseb and mipsel patches to RPM... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2995 Lines: 102 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > Please consider this as the final patch for the mips byteorder > issue. It'd be nice to get this into the next version of rpm (101?). Here's the final patch I used. It's basically the same as yours, I just changed the #if stuff to look a bit cleaner. I also made the old 'mips' architecture compatible with your new 'mipseb' one -- that should save you some migration headaches. Let me know if this doesn't look right. Erik Index: lib-rpmrc.in =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/rhs/CVS/rpm/lib-rpmrc.in,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 lib-rpmrc.in --- lib-rpmrc.in 1997/12/30 19:26:15 1.32 +++ lib-rpmrc.in 1998/01/15 19:51:02 @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ arch_canon: sun4c: sparc 3 arch_canon: sun4d: sparc 3 # This is really a place holder for MIPS. -arch_canon: mips: mips 4 +arch_canon: mipseb: mipseb 4 arch_canon: ppc: ppc 5 arch_canon: m68k: m68k 6 arch_canon: IP: sgi 7 @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ arch_canon: 9000/712: hppa1.1 9 arch_canon: sun4u: usparc 10 +arch_canon: mipsel: mipsel 11 ############################################################# # Canonical OS names and numbers @@ -118,10 +119,13 @@ arch_compat: sparc: noarch arch_compat: ppc: noarch -arch_compat: mips: noarch +arch_compat: mipseb: noarch +arch_compat: mipsel: noarch arch_compat: hppa1.1: hppa1.0 arch_compat: hppa1.0: noarch +# we used to call mipseb just mips -- let those packages still work +arch_compat: mipseb: mips os_compat: IRIX64: IRIX @@ -137,4 +141,6 @@ buildarch_compat: alpha: noarch buildarch_compat: m68k: noarch buildarch_compat: ppc: noarch -buildarch_compat: mips: noarch +buildarch_compat: mipsel: noarch +buildarch_compat: mipseb: noarch + Index: rpm.magic =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/rhs/CVS/rpm/rpm.magic,v retrieving revision 2.2 diff -u -r2.2 rpm.magic --- rpm.magic 1996/05/22 20:39:33 2.2 +++ rpm.magic 1998/01/15 19:51:02 @@ -10,8 +10,9 @@ >>8 beshort 1 i386 >>8 beshort 2 Alpha >>8 beshort 3 Sparc ->>8 beshort 4 MIPS +>>8 beshort 4 MIPS big endian >>8 beshort 5 PowerPC >>8 beshort 6 68000 >>8 beshort 7 SGI +>>8 beshort 11 MIPS little endian >>10 string x %s Index: lib/rpmrc.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/rhs/CVS/rpm/lib/rpmrc.c,v retrieving revision 2.57 diff -u -r2.57 rpmrc.c --- rpmrc.c 1998/01/12 16:58:16 2.57 +++ rpmrc.c 1998/01/15 19:51:02 @@ -682,6 +682,14 @@ while (*chptr++) if (*chptr == '/') *chptr = '-'; + #if defined(__MIPSEL__) || defined(__MIPSEL) || defined(_MIPSEL) + /* little endian */ + strcpy(un.machine, "mipsel"); + #elif defined(__MIPSEB__) || defined(__MIPSEB) || defined(_MIPSEB) + /* big endian */ + strcpy(un.machine, "mipseb"); + #endif + #if defined(__hpux) && defined(_SC_CPU_VERSION) { int cpu_version = sysconf(_SC_CPU_VERSION); From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 11:43:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA53037 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA09237 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:41:28 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA09171 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:41:16 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA18341 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:41:13 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA16134; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:40:50 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xsvZ4-0005FsC; Thu, 15 Jan 98 20:06 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Reminds me: XV To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Cc: shaver@neon.ingenia.ca, mdhill@interlog.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alan Cox" at Jan 15, 98 07:37:01 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 87 Lines: 4 I uploaded an xv rpm today - its a nother -D_USE_POSIX because it uses signal masks From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 15 16:02:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA135138 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:02:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA29892 for linux-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:59:36 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA29882 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:59:34 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA09042 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:59:33 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11525 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:59:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07873; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:42:36 +0100 Message-ID: <19980116004236.53486@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:42:36 +0100 To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The world's worst RPM References: <19980114215847.36294@alpha.franken.de> <199801142359.RAA07990@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801142359.RAA07990@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx>; from Miguel de Icaza on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 05:59:27PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 707 Lines: 15 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 05:59:27PM -0600, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > hmm, to do this with only one src.rpm, we need a little support from > > rpm. At the moment mips is defined for mipsel and mipseb. I would suggest, > > that for .spec execution mips is defined for bot mipsel and mipseb, because > > there are changes, which work for both and we only need to seperate changes > > like that needed by ncompress. Comments ? Does anybody how to do this ? > > The code should be fixed to autoconfigure itself by using the > __LITTLE_ENDIAN and __BIG_ENDIAN macros that are defined somewhere in > /usr/include. And ship the patch with this. I actually have some patch ... somewhere on a disk ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 17 21:35:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA437661 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:35:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA13890 for linux-list; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:31:22 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA13883 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:31:17 -0800 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id VAA03800 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:31:14 -0800 env-from (conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From l4-00 With LocalMail ; Sun, 18 Jan 98 16:31:08 +1100 From: "K." To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:31:05 +1100 (EST) X-Sender: conradp@l4-00.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: cross-compiling gcc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 572 Lines: 16 when trying to use the gcc from the crossdev directory to cross-complie code that (indirectly) includes , we get the warning: "Please update your GCC to GCC 2.7.2-3 or newer". This happens because the symbol _MIPS_ISA is not set - consequently compilation barfs when trying to include as the wrong section of the header file is used. Does anyone have a newer version of the cross-compiler, know where we can get one or how to make one? K. -- Conrad Parker conradp@cse.unsw.edu.au Linux Life: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~conradp/linux/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 03:06:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA448121 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:06:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA15808 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:02:00 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA15797 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:01:57 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA28453 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:01:56 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22191 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12350; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:56:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19980118115632.56606@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:56:32 +0100 To: David Hinkle Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's References: <34C10470.6CEEBCBA@netexpress.net> <19980117210232.46452@uni-koblenz.de> <34C17279.5CB286B5@netexpress.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <34C17279.5CB286B5@netexpress.net>; from David Hinkle on Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 09:09:46PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1575 Lines: 31 On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 09:09:46PM -0600, David Hinkle wrote: > Well, the systems are manufactored by Control Data Systems, "indigo systems" > .... Running Irix.... So what you have is actually a SGI machine. I don't know if this machine has been modified from the original Silicon Graphics box, so I cc this to linux@engr in the hope someone can comment on this. > But I've not had much experience with mips systems so I > just don't know what to look for to tell what they are. It has two primary > boards.... I video board and a Cpu board.... The cpu has the one VR4000 and > three other chips underneath it that look about the size of a Pentium 2.... > But I couldn't read the designations without taking it apart. The video > board has at least one of the same types of 'supporting' chips as well... The > video board also has a socket labled 3D Headset..... The lady that's in > charge of the military reutilization program said it was purchased for 38,000 > three years ago. They have two more... I think I will obtain them both... > Does this sound like a good idea to you? Well, I would take them, though probably not all of them because I'm already stockpiling MIPS boxes ... > By the way... What are my options as far as OS's go? Choose between IRIX and IRIX. Someone else is working on a Linux port to the Indigo. No results yet, he has just started some days ago. Since you're interested in Linux for SGI machines you should also subscribe to SGI's mailing list linux@engr.sgi.com via majordomo@engr.sgi.com. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 03:06:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA447381 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:06:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA15777 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:01:53 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA15769 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:01:51 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA28433 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:01:50 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22188 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:01:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12357; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:57:57 +0100 Message-ID: <19980118115757.57699@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:57:57 +0100 To: "K." Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cross-compiling gcc References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from K. on Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 04:31:05PM +1100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 608 Lines: 14 On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 04:31:05PM +1100, K. wrote: > when trying to use the gcc from the crossdev directory to cross-complie > code that (indirectly) includes , we get the warning: > "Please update your GCC to GCC 2.7.2-3 or newer". This happens because the > symbol _MIPS_ISA is not set - consequently compilation barfs when trying > to include as the wrong section of the header file is used. > > Does anyone have a newer version of the cross-compiler, know where we > can get one or how to make one? The patches for the newer versions are on ftp.linux.sgi.com. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 09:30:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA448458 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:30:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA15818 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:24:38 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA15806; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:24:32 -0800 Received: from netexpress.net (shamu.netexpress.net [206.65.64.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA27153; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:24:31 -0800 env-from (drachen@netexpress.net) Received: from netexpress.net (flexgen-17.netexpress.net [206.65.65.146]) by netexpress.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25931; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:24:25 -0600 Message-ID: <34C23ACA.83E2E39C@netexpress.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:24:27 -0600 From: David Hinkle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Miller CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's References: <34C10470.6CEEBCBA@netexpress.net> <19980117210232.46452@uni-koblenz.de> <34C17279.5CB286B5@netexpress.net> <199801181512.HAA18031@jogger-egg.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2212 Lines: 46 The system is about a foot and a half tall and about 8-10 inches deep and wide... (Square bottom rectangular sides...) Bright blue with a pop-off front that reveals the hard drives on the right and another panel on the left... twisting the nob at the top of the left panel couses the panel to drop forward and the CPU and Video card can be removed. (The run from top to bottom with clips on the top and bottom... pull forward on both clips and they slide out.) How much does IRIX cost? And were can I obtain a copy... I really need to repartition these drives and start over... Becouse the system can't be shut down properly becouse you need the root password to preform the shut down.... Consequently it's all messed up. I plan on mounting it's drives in my desktop and hoping that Linux can read the filesystem so I can clear the root password.... Bye the way... Is there an easier way to clear the root password? And does anybody know what filesystem IRIX uses? How do I subscribe to the mailing lists? (Wow... Lot's of silly questions in this letter huh? ) Please CC to me becouse I'm not on you'r lists yet. Thanks guys, I really apreciate your help. Bob Miller wrote: > Ralf wrote: > > > Choose between IRIX and IRIX. Someone else is working on a Linux port to > > the Indigo. No results yet, he has just started some days ago. Since > > you're interested in Linux for SGI machines you should also subscribe to > > SGI's mailing list linux@engr.sgi.com via majordomo@engr.sgi.com. > > If these are Indigo2 machines, then they have the same motherboard as > the Indy. The graphics board is completely different, though. The > same IRIX kernel will run on Indy and Indigo2. Linux probably won't > run on Indigo2 today because it assumes Indy graphics are present, but > removing graphics support should be straightforward (?) if you want > a headless server running Linux. > > If the CPU box is a thick pizza box (wide and flat, about 6 inches > tall), then it's an Indigo2. If the CPU box is a minitower, then it's > an original Indigo, and getting Linux running on that would be a much > bigger project. > > K From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 09:46:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA456264 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:46:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA17273 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:44:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA17248; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:44:00 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA00511; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:43:58 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA13315; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:43:38 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xtzBj-0005FsC; Sun, 18 Jan 98 18:11 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's To: drachen@netexpress.net (David Hinkle) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:11:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: kbob@jogger-egg.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34C23ACA.83E2E39C@netexpress.net> from "David Hinkle" at Jan 18, 98 11:24:27 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 434 Lines: 11 > password.... Bye the way... Is there an easier way to clear the root > password? And does anybody know what filesystem IRIX uses? If its running Irix < 6.4 then read bugtraq archives for about 100,000 ways to break root on your machine 8) The best general scheme on a remote box is to stuff the disk into a machine and without mounting it replace any disk block starting root:........:dfgkd with your own password string. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 16:46:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA471512 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:46:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA28892 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:43:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA28874 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:43:14 -0800 Received: from netexpress.net (shamu.netexpress.net [206.65.64.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA00156 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:43:09 -0800 env-from (drachen@netexpress.net) Received: from netexpress.net (flexgen-17.netexpress.net [206.65.65.146]) by netexpress.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17852; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:42:45 -0600 Message-ID: <34C2A186.32EF7CFF@netexpress.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:42:46 -0600 From: David Hinkle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 490 Lines: 16 Oh? What is bugtraq? Alan Cox wrote: > > password.... Bye the way... Is there an easier way to clear the root > > password? And does anybody know what filesystem IRIX uses? > > If its running Irix < 6.4 then read bugtraq archives for about 100,000 ways > to break root on your machine 8) > > The best general scheme on a remote box is to stuff the disk into a machine > and without mounting it replace any disk block starting root:........:dfgkd > with your own password string. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 16:46:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA468563 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA29007 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:44:52 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA28999 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:44:50 -0800 Received: from netexpress.net (shamu.netexpress.net [206.65.64.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA00358 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:44:49 -0800 env-from (drachen@netexpress.net) Received: from netexpress.net (flexgen-17.netexpress.net [206.65.65.146]) by netexpress.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17947; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:44:36 -0600 Message-ID: <34C2A1F6.AAEB34EC@netexpress.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:44:38 -0600 From: David Hinkle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 347 Lines: 8 > The best general scheme on a remote box is to stuff the disk into a machine > and without mounting it replace any disk block starting root:........:dfgkd > with your own password string. I don't have any idea how to do that, or even were to start looking for how to do that... Could you give me a place I could begin searching or reading? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 18 18:55:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA476455 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:55:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA10112 for linux-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:49:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA10096 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:49:39 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id SAA22310 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:49:36 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA05979; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:48:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:48:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199801190248.VAA05979@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: binutils cross-compiler X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 737 Lines: 24 I've re-installed IRIX gcc from Ariel's freeware page and I'm trying to compile binutils with patch (2.8.1-1 24 Nov) according to Ralf's Howto instructions. Each time it quits at this point: gcc -O2 -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -g ihex.c if [ -n "" ]; then \ gcc -O2 -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -g stabs.c -o pic/stabs.o; \ else true; fi gcc -O2 -c -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I. -I./../include -g stabs.c gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 10 *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) Is this enough information for anyone to determine if I'm missing anything? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 19 01:51:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id BAA489082 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:51:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA16386 for linux-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:48:03 -0800 Received: from fddi-sgi.engr.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA16358 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:47:47 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by fddi-sgi.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id BAA26863 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:47:38 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA27775; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:47:21 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xuEEo-0005FsC; Mon, 19 Jan 98 10:15 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: My NEC VR4000's To: drachen@netexpress.net (David Hinkle) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:15:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34C2A186.32EF7CFF@netexpress.net> from "David Hinkle" at Jan 18, 98 06:42:46 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 162 Lines: 5 > Oh? What is bugtraq? 5 minutes of looking on the net using tools like altavista would tell you. I dont do other peoples donkey work. Welcome to my kill file From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 19 12:31:40 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA507731 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:31:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA07397 for linux-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:28:19 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA07388 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:28:18 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA26854 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:28:18 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801192028.MAA26854@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: help new people get on board To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:28:17 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 976 Lines: 32 To whom it may concern... It seems that tere have been a recent surge in people who want to try SGI/Linux on their Indy's. Unfortunately, despite having about 10 people already running Linux on their SGIs we still don't have a really easy, complete, up-to-date, and straightforward doc on how to get there... For example: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/GettingStarted/README says that Linux-installer-0.1.tar.gz is broken. root-be-0.00.cpio.gz is old, and root-be-0.02.tar.gz is untested. The FAQ/HOWTO is very old an inaccurate and has broken links: http://www.linux.sgi.com/faq.html Please, could someone who feel confident with this stuff step forward and make the necessary changes to the web/ftp site so we can have people join the trailblazers easily? Every minute invested in this as opposed to hacking the code would be a much better investment in terms of more people joining and keeping the momentum of this project. Thanks! -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 19 13:01:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA513236 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:01:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA12343 for linux-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:57:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA12318; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:57:24 -0800 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA01688; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:57:23 -0800 env-from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21373; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.3]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA8869; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:57:19 -0800 Message-ID: <34C3B980.74B882C6@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:37:20 -0800 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: help new people get on board References: <199801192028.MAA26854@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1038 Lines: 29 Ariel Faigon wrote: > > To whom it may concern... > > It seems that tere have been a recent surge in people who > want to try SGI/Linux on their Indy's. Unfortunately, despite > having about 10 people already running Linux on their SGIs > we still don't have a really easy, complete, up-to-date, > and straightforward doc on how to get there... > > For example: > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/GettingStarted/README > > says that Linux-installer-0.1.tar.gz is broken. Linux-installer-0.1b.tar.gz is being uploaded as I type this. It's the old installer package with the actual installer. 0.2 will have the new libc and RPM stuff, along with whatever else appears in the RPMs or kernel tree by then. My Indy at home doesn't work because of the cache bug, and the one at work may be reallocated as fallout from the layoffs, so I'm having a bit of trouble progressing with the installer. Once we get the cache bug committed, I'll build a new kernel for the installer package and try to push it out quickly. Mike From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 20 21:31:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA537434 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:31:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA10068 for linux-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:27:45 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA10041 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:27:36 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA10668 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:27:32 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA02279 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:29:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Statuses... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1524 Lines: 36 Or would that be statii? With a bit of luck I'll be releasing root-be-0.03 which _will_ work, and which will contain such things as a modern version of rpm and fdisk. Give me 24 hours. I've hacked most of util-linux so that it'll work with mips. hwclock will _not_ work by accessing hardware directly, it'll have to go through /dev/rtc, which is the way it should be anyway. The one thing I'm missing for that is the setup for partitioning; if someone could give me a spec for Irix partitioned disks, I'd have a hope in hell of getting it to work. If someone wants to sort this out, it'd be awfully nice. This includes mkswap, swapon, which will be on root-be-0.03. Other things: - thanks to my Alma M., I now have a CDROM on my Indy. Works fine. - I started looking at modules and the MIPS kernel, and I've come to the conclusion that modutils is just the tip of the iceberg. Exactly what needs to be done to the kernel for this to work? - Thanks to FedEx and mostly Ariel, I have Indy docs. While on the Boston public transit system, I gained new respect for everybody who got the basic device drivers going. It's more complex than I'd thought. - Exactly what is required to get psaux mice working? It compiled fine for me, but doing a "cat /dev/psaux" hung the machine heavily. - What are the problems in getting X working? - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 06:38:52 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA670238 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:38:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA08570 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:35:23 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA08554 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:35:17 -0800 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.166]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA08768 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:35:15 -0800 env-from (LetherGlov@aol.com) From: LetherGlov Message-ID: <6e690e14.34c6079f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:35:09 EST To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Disk Space Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 303 Lines: 8 There seems to be a small problem on the root(/) drive of Linus, as it is 100% used. I'm not quite sure what caused this, as a few days ago it was fine, but I'd like to be able to pull some sources from the CVS and it woun't let me complaining about the space. Thanks, Robbie Stone Serendipity Simplex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 10:13:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA680604 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA01396 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:09:30 -0800 Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.27]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA01381; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:09:29 -0800 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA03109; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:09:26 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199801211809.KAA03109@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Disk Space To: LetherGlov@aol.com (LetherGlov) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:09:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <6e690e14.34c6079f@aol.com> from "LetherGlov" at Jan 21, 98 09:35:09 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 714 Lines: 17 : :There seems to be a small problem on the root(/) drive of Linus, as it is 100% :used. I'm not quite sure what caused this, as a few days ago it was fine, but :I'd like to be able to pull some sources from the CVS and it woun't let me :complaining about the space. : Yes the root filesystem is very small. Please use only the /src and /work partitions to do your work. There are only three users who have over 20 Mb each in their home dirs. I guess I can delete Larry's stuff since he hasn't logged in in a very long time Also: anyone knows if Mark Salter is still helping? He has 43Mb... I also cleaned some old logs /var/adm/{oOLD}* so we are down to 98% before dealing with user dirs... -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 11:02:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA683456 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:02:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA19454 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:59:39 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA19396 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:59:30 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id KAA23469 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:59:27 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA30513 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:59:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: root-be-0.03.tar.gz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 863 Lines: 33 I've uploaded root-be-0.03.tar.gz to the GettingStarted directory, and I cleared the GettingStarted directory of older versions of root-be-0.02 and 00 (they're in the ../old directory). This contains: - fdisk - mke2fs, swapon, swapoff, mkswap - ld.so - rpm version 2.4.12 This does not contain: - gcc, binutils - a lot of other stuff I can already see some things that should go into 0.04.. Some things to work on: - get a more modern version of vmlinux with efs for both scache'd and non-scache'd machines - make Linux-installer-0.1c with root-be-0.03.tar.gz (with Mike's permission) - document all this (damn, I wish I had another SCSI disk to practice installs) - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 11:26:16 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA686751 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA26948 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA26939; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:50 -0800 Received: from cygnus.com (runyon.cygnus.com [205.180.230.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA03180; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:49 -0800 env-from (msalter@cygnus.com) Received: from msalter1.cygnus.com (msalter@msalter1.cygnus.com [205.226.144.40]) by runyon.cygnus.com (8.8.7-cygnus/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19436; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msalter@localhost) by msalter1.cygnus.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA00630; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:20:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:20:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199801211920.OAA00630@msalter1.cygnus.com> From: Mark Salter To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <199801211809.KAA03109@oz.engr.sgi.com> (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Subject: Re: Disk Space References: <199801211809.KAA03109@oz.engr.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 706 Lines: 17 >>>>> Ariel Faigon writes: > Yes the root filesystem is very small. Please use only the /src > and /work partitions to do your work. There are only three users > who have over 20 Mb each in their home dirs. I guess I can > delete Larry's stuff since he hasn't logged in in a very long time > Also: anyone knows if Mark Salter is still helping? He has 43Mb... > -- > Peace, Ariel You can delete everything there except maybe my dot-files. I'm not actively helping at the moment as I lost access to an Indy due to a change of jobs (and cities). As soon as I close on a new house next month, I'm going to start actively shopping for a used Indy and will thus be able to start helping out again. --Mark From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 11:42:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA689892 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA03128 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:38:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA03109 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:38:41 -0800 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA10655 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:38:40 -0800 env-from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01946 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([208.12.32.37]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA5658; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:38:35 -0800 Message-ID: <34C64EB7.1FA95A9C@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:38:31 +0000 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.31 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1188 Lines: 34 Alex deVries wrote: > I can already see some things that should go into 0.04.. It would be nice if there was a really minimal root-be with just enough to get a network configured and then start pulling stuff down via RPM. That was my goal with the Linux-installer, although we could have two versions, too. > Some things to work on: > - get a more modern version of vmlinux with efs for both scache'd and > non-scache'd machines I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. > - make Linux-installer-0.1c with root-be-0.03.tar.gz (with Mike's > permission) Sold! Note that you'll have to make a cpio of it, because that's all the installer understands. Also, if you talk to Alan about how to fix the installer to do devices correctly, things will get a little simpler. > - document all this (damn, I wish I had another SCSI disk to practice > installs) I have one, and the work Indy survived the layoffs (woohoo!), so I'll be back to work on that stuff shortly (cross your fingers =) ). Mike -- 509756.92 504401.08 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 12:01:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA682338 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:01:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA10627 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:57:59 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA10574 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:57:50 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id LAA18660 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:57:46 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA21927; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:57:19 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xv6jV-0005FsC; Wed, 21 Jan 98 20:26 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz To: shaver@netscape.com (Mike Shaver) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <34C64EB7.1FA95A9C@netscape.com> from "Mike Shaver" at Jan 21, 98 07:38:31 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 360 Lines: 9 > I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 > freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and > finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. You've not missed it providing your code doesnt have to touch the fs layer as well as fs/efs. Certainly el penguino took the ADFS patch for 2.1.80 Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 15:05:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA08001 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:05:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA06353 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:01:18 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA06345 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:01:17 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA06418 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:01:15 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06847 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:01:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05620; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:41:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19980121234018.13089@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:40:18 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Statuses... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 12:29:46AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 551 Lines: 18 On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 12:29:46AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Or would that be statii? Missed your Latin lessons, geh? > - I started looking at modules and the MIPS kernel, and I've come to the > conclusion that modutils is just the tip of the iceberg. Exactly what > needs to be done to the kernel for this to work? make config :-) > - Exactly what is required to get psaux mice working? It compiled fine > for me, but doing a "cat /dev/psaux" hung the machine heavily. I guess Miguel must have fixed the problem when working on X. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 15:55:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA29411 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:55:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA23578 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:51:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA23556 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:51:00 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA24902 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:49:49 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA16490 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:49:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Console problems... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 421 Lines: 16 Okay. I have a self-compiled kernel (like the vmlinux 2.1.72 kernel that is on linus), and it actually boots fine for me. The problem is that it doesn't display the bootup. The console output starts at the "INIT..." line. Any ideas? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 19:18:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA60400 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:18:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA13768 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:15:59 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA13764 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:15:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA03951 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:15:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: Linux porting team Subject: lame question ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 778 Lines: 21 but in the indy low-level startup code, there seems to be 2 major functions .. 1> init the MC .. I believe that is the Memory Controller .. 2> init the HPC .. anyone out there know what that is .. so that I can put in the right functionality in the correspoding file for the indigo ?? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 19:48:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA62190 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:48:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA18398 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:45:30 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA18393 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:45:28 -0800 Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA18819 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:45:26 -0800 env-from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01227; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:44:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:44:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199801220344.VAA01227@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19980121234018.13089@uni-koblenz.de> (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Subject: Re: Statuses... X-Windows: Garbage at your fingertips. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 315 Lines: 11 > > - Exactly what is required to get psaux mice working? It compiled fine > > for me, but doing a "cat /dev/psaux" hung the machine heavily. > > I guess Miguel must have fixed the problem when working on X. strange, I never got an interrupt out of the psaux mouse. I am still wondering how it works. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 19:55:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA62520 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:55:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA19705 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:54:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA19701 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:54:40 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA20814 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:54:37 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA29076; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:54:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Miguel de Icaza cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Statuses... In-Reply-To: <199801220344.VAA01227@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 757 Lines: 20 On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > - Exactly what is required to get psaux mice working? It compiled fine > > > for me, but doing a "cat /dev/psaux" hung the machine heavily. > > I guess Miguel must have fixed the problem when working on X. > > strange, I never got an interrupt out of the psaux mouse. Well, I did. It froze my machine right up. It booted just fine, and everything else worked, but as soon as I knocked the mouse the entire thing hung. No network, no num lock, no nothing. Uh, is there anything I can help debug with this? > I am still wondering how it works. Same here. The docs that I got (thanks, Ariel!) didn't really spell out where the mouse actually connects to. I think I need to re-read things. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 21:27:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA28713 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:27:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA02283 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:22:01 -0800 Received: from tantrik.engr.sgi.com (tantrik.engr.sgi.com [192.26.72.25]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA02279; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:21:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (shm@localhost) by tantrik.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA04363; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:21:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Shrijeet Mukherjee To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: Linux porting team Subject: Re: lame question ... In-Reply-To: <19980122061334.36263@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1527 Lines: 38 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: ->On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 07:15:56PM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote: -> ->> but in the indy low-level startup code, there seems to be 2 major ->> functions .. ->> ->> 1> init the MC .. I believe that is the Memory Controller .. ->> 2> init the HPC .. anyone out there know what that is .. so that I can ->> put in the right functionality in the correspoding file for the indigo ?? -> ->The main functionality is as DMA controller. I think there is also some ->IRQ stuff in it, don't have the docs at hand. it appears now, that the HPC is the DMA controller for the SCSI interfaces .. but HPC-1 which is on the Indigo is missing a lot of the functions of the HPC-3 which the IP22 boards shipped with .. and is the only implemented HPC currently .. the main worry I have is what is the functionality that the upper layers need and is there a layer that I can look at that needs to have complete functionality so that upper layers can function normally ..?? if you know what I mean .. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrijeet Mukherjee, Member of Technical Staff (MTS) Advanced Graphics Division Silicon Graphics Computer Systems http://reality.sgi.com/shm_engr phone: 650-933-5312 email: shm@engr.sgi.com, shm@sgi.com, shm@cs.uoregon.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 22:09:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA70903 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:09:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA06564 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:04:36 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA06558 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:04:31 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA21317 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:04:26 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA06628; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:04:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Mike Shaver cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <34C64EB7.1FA95A9C@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1192 Lines: 36 On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Mike Shaver wrote: > Alex deVries wrote: > > I can already see some things that should go into 0.04.. > It would be nice if there was a really minimal root-be with just enough > to get a network configured and then start pulling stuff down via RPM. > That was my goal with the Linux-installer, although we could have two > versions, too. I really need a minimalist version of it, too, for the RH-like installer. I'm working on it. > I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 > freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and > finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. Let me know if I can help. Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? > > - make Linux-installer-0.1c with root-be-0.03.tar.gz (with Mike's > > permission) > Sold! Tomorrow.. I promise. > > - document all this (damn, I wish I had another SCSI disk to practice > > installs) I'm bidding right now on another SCSI disk, so I should be setup for it soon. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 21 22:12:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA65700 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:12:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA07461 for linux-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:11:25 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA07457 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:11:23 -0800 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA23415 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:11:23 -0800 env-from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03384 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([208.12.32.37]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA17258; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:11:22 -0800 Message-ID: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:11:16 +0000 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.31 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 392 Lines: 13 Alex deVries wrote: > Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without > the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my > machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? Could we not modify sash to know about ext2? I thought I read somewhere that we could get sash sources/info, which would help a lot. Mike -- 548137.65 541127.34 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 02:03:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA83601 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:03:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA02236 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:59:59 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA02225 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:59:56 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id BAA13082 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:59:55 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA30518; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:59:32 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xvJsq-0005FsC; Thu, 22 Jan 98 10:29 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:29:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: shaver@netscape.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jan 22, 98 01:04:19 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 361 Lines: 14 > Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without > the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my > machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? Using the Linux initrd stuff. To get the ARC loader to load it all you end up doing char __initdata initrd_block[]={ #include "bootdisk.hex.h" }; 8) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 04:11:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA91710 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:11:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA12700 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:05:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA12690 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:04:59 -0800 Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA20637 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:04:45 -0800 env-from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id NAA18129; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:04:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:04:30 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Frommel To: Mike Shaver cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 277 Lines: 11 > > Could we not modify sash to know about ext2? > I thought I read somewhere that we could get sash sources/info, which > would help a lot. > sash is located in the volumen header afaik(?) wouldn't it be possible to replace sash by another (possibly free) bootloader? o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 09:44:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA108199 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:44:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA01591 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:39:33 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA01583 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:39:31 -0800 Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA02835 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:39:31 -0800 env-from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23716 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.3]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA5008 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:39:29 -0800 Message-ID: <34C77F80.20285955@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:18:56 -0800 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Netscape gives away source code for Communicator Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0A353012A05D6D70FD080C77" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 11781 Lines: 206 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0A353012A05D6D70FD080C77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not directly on-topic, but it means that we'll have a Linux/Indy browser in the next few quarters. 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Netscape Announces Plans to Make Next-Generation Communicator Source Code Available Free on the Net

Bold Move to Harness Creative Power of Thousands of Internet Developers; Company Makes Netscape Navigator and Communicator 4.0 Immediately Free for All Users, Seeding Market for Enterprise and Netcenter Businesses

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Jan. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Netscape Communications Corporation (Nasdaq: NSCP - news) today announced bold plans to make the source code for the next generation of its highly popular Netscape Communicator client software available for free licensing on the Internet. The company plans to post the source code beginning with the first Netscape Communicator 5.0 developer release, expected by the end of the first quarter of 1998. This aggressive move will enable Netscape to harness the creative power of thousands of programmers on the Internet by incorporating their best enhancements into future versions of Netscape's software. This strategy is designed to accelerate development and free distribution by Netscape of future high-quality versions of Netscape Communicator to business customers and individuals, further seeding the market for Netscape's enterprise solutions and Netcenter business.

In addition, the company is making its currently available Netscape Navigator and Communicator Standard Edition 4.0 software products immediately free for all users. With this action, Netscape makes it easier than ever for individuals at home, at school or at work to choose the world's most popular Internet client software as their preferred interface to the Internet.

``The time is right for us to take the bold action of making our client free -- and we are going even further by committing to post the source code for free for Communicator 5.0,'' said Jim Barksdale, Netscape's president and chief executive officer. ``By giving away the source code for future versions, we can ignite the creative energies of the entire Net community and fuel unprecedented levels of innovation in the browser market. Our customers can benefit from world-class technology advancements; the development community gains access to a whole new market opportunity; and Netscape's core businesses benefit from the proliferation of the market-leading client software.''

Netscape, plans to make Netscape Communicator 5.0 source code available for modification and redistribution beginning later this quarter with the first developer release of the product. The company will handle free source distribution with a license that allows source code modification and redistribution and provides for free availability of source code versions, building on the heritage of the GNU Public License (GPL), familiar to developers on the Net. Netscape intends to create a special Web site service where all interested parties can download the source code, post their enhancements, take part in newsgroup discussions, and obtain and share Communicator related information with others in the Internet community. Netscape will also continue to develop new technologies and offer periodic certified, high-quality, supported releases of its Netscape Communicator and Navigator products, incorporating some of the best features created by this dynamic community.

The ubiquity of Netscape's client software facilitates Netscape's strategy of linking millions of individuals to businesses. Today's announcements will help to further proliferate Netscape's award-winning client software, which today has an installed base of more than 68 million, providing a ready market for businesses using Netscape's Networked Enterprise software solutions and Netscape Netcenter services. Netscape's research indicates that in the education market where Netscape's products are free, the Netscape client software commands approximately 90 percent of the market, indicating that users tend to choose Netscape when the choice is freely available. Making its browser software free also will enable Netscape to continue to drive Internet standards, maximize the number of users on the Internet, and expand the third- party community of companies and products that take advantage of the Netscape software platform.

Netscape has successfully shifted its business over the past year toward enterprise software sales and to revenues from its Web site business, and away from standalone client revenues. In the third quarter of 1997, standalone client revenues represented approximately 18 percent of Netscape's revenue, with the rest coming from enterprise software, services and the Web site. Preliminary results for the fourth quarter of 1997, which Netscape announced January 5, show standalone client revenues decreased to approximately 13 percent in the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter of 1996 by comparison, standalone client revenue represented approximately 45 percent of Netscape's revenue.

In conjunction with its free client, Netscape separately announced today that it is launching a host of enhanced products and services that leverage its free client software to make it easy for enterprise and individual customers to adopt Netscape solutions. The new products and services reinforce Netscape's strategy of leveraging market penetration of its popular client software and its busy Internet site to seed further sales of Netscape software solutions in the home and business markets. The new products and services include enhanced subscription and support packages, an investment protection program for Netscape Communicator users, new reduced pricing on Netscape's retail and enterprise client products, new Premium Services on its Netscape Netcenter online service and Netscape SuiteSpot server software upgrades featuring Netscape client software.

In addition, the company separately announced the launch of an aggressive new software distribution program called ``Unlimited Distribution'' to broadly distribute its market-leading Internet client software for free. Unlimited Distribution enables Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), Internet Service Providers (ISPs), telecommunications companies, Web content providers, publishers and software developers to download and redistribute Netscape Communicator and Netscape Navigator easily with ``no strings attached.'' In addition, beginning immediately, individual users can download Netscape Communicator or Navigator for free, register for Netscape Netcenter and, beginning tomorrow, enter the ``Choose Netscape'' sweepstakes to win exciting travel-related prizes, including a grand prize of two all-inclusive, seven- night tropical resort vacations.

Individuals can download a free copy of Netscape Communicator client software or the Netscape Navigator browser from the Netscape home page, at http://home.netscape.com, or by clicking on any of the thousands of ``Netscape Now'' buttons on the Internet. Netscape Communicator Professional Edition, which adds features for enterprise customers, will be available for US$29.

Netscape Communications Corporation is a premier provider of open software for linking people and information over enterprise networks and the Internet. The company offers a full line of Netscape Navigator clients, servers, development tools and commercial applications to create a complete platform for next-generation, live online applications. Traded on Nasdaq under the symbol ``NSCP,'' Netscape Communications Corporation is based in Mountain View, California.

Additional information on Netscape Communications Corporation is available on the Internet at http://home.netscape.com, by sending email to info@netscape.com or by calling 650-937-2555 (corporate customers) or 650-937-3777 (individuals).

Netscape is a trademark of Netscape Communications Corporation, which is registered in the United States and other jurisdictions. Netscape Communications, the Netscape Communications logo, Netscape Navigator, Netscape SuiteSpot, Netscape Composer, Netscape Messenger and Netscape Communicator are trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation.

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--------------0A353012A05D6D70FD080C77-- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 10:23:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA112405 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:23:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA13439 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:19:03 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA13379; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:18:57 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA23753; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:18:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:18:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199801221818.KAA23753@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Oliver Frommel Cc: Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 576 Lines: 18 Oliver Frommel writes: > > > > Could we not modify sash to know about ext2? > > I thought I read somewhere that we could get sash sources/info, which > > would help a lot. > > > > sash is located in the volumen header afaik(?) > wouldn't it be possible to replace sash by another (possibly free) bootloader? Yes, you can easily replace sash, and the replacement need not even be called sash, since you can setenv -p OSLoader xyz to change the name the PROM will use for the boot loader to "xyz". The IRIX tool for updating the volume header is dvhtool. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 12:45:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA120819 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:45:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA02231 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:43:26 -0800 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA02192 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:43:19 -0800 Received: from wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) id JAA19690; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:40:00 +1300 Message-ID: <34C7AE9F.25A38E49@wellington.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:39:59 +1300 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5-ALPHA-1274191040 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1121 Lines: 26 Alex deVries wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Mike Shaver wrote: > > Alex deVries wrote: > > I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 > > freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and > > finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. > > Let me know if I can help. > > Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without > the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my > machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? > Couldn't we just put the vmlinux in the volume header and load it from there....in fact you probably wouldn't even need sash. Use dvhtool under irix to add the image. You may need to make a bigger volume header to fit it. I'm not 100% sure if this will work, but it's worth a try. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 2431455 Level 5, Cigna House, Ph: +64-4-494 6325 40 Mercer St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-494 6321 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 13:41:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA124533 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:41:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA17161 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:27 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA17132; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:24 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA24653; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:23 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199801222137.NAA24653@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alistair Lambie Cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <34C7AE9F.25A38E49@wellington.sgi.com> References: <34C7AE9F.25A38E49@wellington.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1158 Lines: 25 Alistair Lambie writes: > Alex deVries wrote: > > > > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Mike Shaver wrote: > > > Alex deVries wrote: > > > I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 > > > freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and > > > finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. > > > > Let me know if I can help. > > > > Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without > > the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my > > machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? > > > Couldn't we just put the vmlinux in the volume header and load it from > there....in fact you probably wouldn't even need sash. Use dvhtool under irix > to add the image. You may need to make a bigger volume header to fit it. I'm > not 100% sure if this will work, but it's worth a try. ... vmlinux probably will not fit without repartitioning. Also, except for early development, that is pretty tedious. I would assume that production Indy linux systems would have just the volume header and linux partitions, with no IRIX. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 13:53:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA124781 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:53:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA22044 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:50:13 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA22014 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:50:11 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA18760 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:50:08 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA07936 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:50:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: wd33c93 errors. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1529 Lines: 43 I'm not sure, but I think there might be something wrong with the wd33c93 driver. I have acquired through creative means a 700MB SCSI disk from work. I repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with the hardware itself. So, I go into Linux andd try to mke2fs it. It seems to work for a bit, then dies with something like: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code 2800000 Current error sd08:21: sense key Hardware Error Additional sense indicates Address mark not found for id field scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 10 scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 6, lun 0, CDB: Request Sense 00 00 00 10 00 Current error sd08:21: sense key Medium Error Additional sense indicates Recorded entity not found scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 108 scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 17577, scsi0, id 6, lun 0 Write (6) 12 bb a2 f4 00 scsi0: Aborting connected command 17577 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr = 25, sr=ff, 16777215 bytes un-transferred (timeout=-1) - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command = asr=00, sr=18. And the whole thing is hung, hard. I'd be willing to accept that my drive is unhealthy, but I'm a bit surprised as it seems to work just fine under Irix. Ideas? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 14:25:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA127115 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:25:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA01345 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:20:48 -0800 Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA01257 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:20:35 -0800 Received: from wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) id LAA20456; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:18:16 +1300 Message-ID: <34C7C5A8.83866A47@wellington.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:18:16 +1300 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5-ALPHA-1274191040 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William J. Earl" CC: Alistair Lambie , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: <34C7AE9F.25A38E49@wellington.sgi.com> <199801222137.NAA24653@fir.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2039 Lines: 49 William J. Earl wrote: > > Alistair Lambie writes: > > Alex deVries wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Mike Shaver wrote: > > > > Alex deVries wrote: > > > > I _must_ start working on EFS again. I assume I've missed the 2.2 > > > > freeze, but I could still help a lot of people by getting off my a** and > > > > finishing it. My apologies to those who are waiting on it. > > > > > > Let me know if I can help. > > > > > > Here's a question: is it possible to boot off of the local disk without > > > the image being on an EFS partition? Will I ever be able to have my > > > machine have no EFS partition? How will ARC find the image? > > > > > Couldn't we just put the vmlinux in the volume header and load it from > > there....in fact you probably wouldn't even need sash. Use dvhtool under irix > > to add the image. You may need to make a bigger volume header to fit it. I'm > > not 100% sure if this will work, but it's worth a try. > ... > > vmlinux probably will not fit without repartitioning. Also, except > for early development, that is pretty tedious. I would assume that production > Indy linux systems would have just the volume header and linux partitions, > with no IRIX. Pro's and Con's: 1. You don't need any boot loader...no sash etc, just use the PROM to load direct from the volume header. 2. You need to repartition....is that a big problem (and I'm not sure you would need to repartition if you strip the other stuff out of the vh). 3. We need to 'clone' dvhtool for linux...only needs the ability to move the vmlinux image to the vh. Would this be hard? My assumptions are that you can actually load the kernel from PROM (?) and that it wouldn't be too hard to clone dvhtool. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics New Zealand SGI Voicemail: 2431455 Level 5, Cigna House, Ph: +64-4-494 6325 40 Mercer St, Wellington, NZ Fax: +64-4-494 6321 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 14:09:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA125255 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA26323 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:04:47 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA26314 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:04:45 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA24761 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:04:44 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA11762; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:04:13 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xvVCP-0005FsC; Thu, 22 Jan 98 22:34 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jan 22, 98 04:50:16 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1197 Lines: 35 > repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix > just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with Including rewriting it ? > SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code 2800000 > Current error sd08:21: sense key Hardware Error > Additional sense indicates Address mark not found for id field > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 10 > scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 6, lun 0, CDB: Request Sense 00 00 00 > 10 00 Thats the SCSI verbage for bad block > Current error sd08:21: sense key Medium Error > Additional sense indicates Recorded entity not found no address mark generally > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 108 > scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 17577, scsi0, id 6, lun 0 > Write (6) 12 bb a2 f4 00 > scsi0: Aborting connected command 17577 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 > ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr = 25, sr=ff, 16777215 bytes > un-transferred (timeout=-1) - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command = asr=00, > sr=18. > > And the whole thing is hung, hard. Thats a bug. > surprised as it seems to work just fine under Irix. See if you can rewrite every sector of it under Irix .. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 15:10:52 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA138241 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:10:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA15877 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:07:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA15865 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:07:41 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA21360 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:07:30 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA11813; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:07:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1826 Lines: 47 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix > > just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with > Including rewriting it ? Ah, I tried that specifically, and had problems too with Irix. So, the disk is toast, and it'll go back to the storage room I found it in (along with an AXP). > > scsi0: Aborting connected command 17577 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 > > ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr = 25, sr=ff, 16777215 bytes > > un-transferred (timeout=-1) - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command = asr=00, > > sr=18. > > And the whole thing is hung, hard. > Thats a bug. I've got a WO recordable CDROM also. I can change directories on it just fine, but when reading a lot of data on it, it'll give me: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 2282, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Write (6) 00 0a 99 02 00 scsi0: Abort - removing command 2282 from input_Q. And then a total hang again.. no numlock, no pinging. I can't test the recordable CDROM under Irix because it doesn't have a WORM driver built in. Now, another thing... I have a _functional_ (under both Irix and Linux ) CDROM that doesn't get detected under Linux when I have all of this other crap on the SCSI bus. It is perfectly usable if it's on the external bus by itself, but not with other devices on the bus. My conclusion is that my 700MB disk and recordable CDROM are crap, and the Linux driver for the wd33c93 can't handle these kinds of problems correctly. And lastly: having a cute blue case seemed pretty good at first, but it'd be heavenly to have room for more than two hard disks inside. Tomorrow I'll borrow a functional SCSI disk and try again. - Alex "and as if SCSI hell weren't bad enough, I have to get my wisdom teeth out" deVries From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 16:15:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA141414 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:15:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA06072 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:12:27 -0800 Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA06065 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:12:26 -0800 Received: (from fisher@localhost) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA28870; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:12:23 -0800 From: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Message-Id: <199801230012.QAA28870@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:12:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com, fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jan 22, 98 06:07:27 pm Reply-To: fisher@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2721 Lines: 65 > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > > repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix > > > just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with > > Including rewriting it ? > > Ah, I tried that specifically, and had problems too with Irix. So, the > disk is toast, and it'll go back to the storage room I found it in (along > with an AXP). > > > > scsi0: Aborting connected command 17577 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 > > > ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr = 25, sr=ff, 16777215 bytes > > > un-transferred (timeout=-1) - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command = asr=00, > > > sr=18. > > > And the whole thing is hung, hard. > > Thats a bug. > > I've got a WO recordable CDROM also. I can change directories on it just > fine, but when reading a lot of data on it, it'll give me: > > scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 2282, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, > lun 0 Write (6) 00 0a 99 02 00 > scsi0: Abort - removing command 2282 from input_Q. > > And then a total hang again.. no numlock, no pinging. > > I can't test the recordable CDROM under Irix because it doesn't have a > WORM driver built in. > I have been talking with Creative Digital Research, creators of the HyCD product used in SGI's Hot Mix CD's. Seems that support for recordable CD media has encountered problems BOTH under Irix and Solaris. In older products, the PC SCSI devices did NOT support disconnect. So the various third party vendors ifdef'ed out the disconnect code in our wd SCSI driver and rebuild the kernels to get around this "feature". I am getting the details but it seems that something is amiss with the "standard" PC SCSI devices in this area. There is also some fuzzy-ness going on in the device type they are advertizing themselves to be. I will have the gory details shortly since we would like to understand the problem. We have had a couple of customers complain about this problem. -- Bill > > Now, another thing... I have a _functional_ (under both Irix and Linux > ) CDROM that doesn't get detected under Linux when I have all of this > other crap on the SCSI bus. It is perfectly usable if it's on the external > bus by itself, but not with other devices on the bus. > > My conclusion is that my 700MB disk and recordable CDROM are crap, and the > Linux driver for the wd33c93 can't handle these kinds of problems > correctly. > > And lastly: having a cute blue case seemed pretty good at first, but it'd > be heavenly to have room for more than two hard disks inside. > > Tomorrow I'll borrow a functional SCSI disk and try again. > > - Alex "and as if SCSI hell weren't bad enough, I have to get my wisdom > teeth out" deVries > > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 16:50:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA150470 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:50:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA16903 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:47:24 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA16891; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:47:21 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA25110; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:47:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:47:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199801230047.QAA25110@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 659 Lines: 16 Alex deVries writes: ... > My conclusion is that my 700MB disk and recordable CDROM are crap, and the > Linux driver for the wd33c93 can't handle these kinds of problems > correctly. > > And lastly: having a cute blue case seemed pretty good at first, but it'd > be heavenly to have room for more than two hard disks inside. > > Tomorrow I'll borrow a functional SCSI disk and try again. ... Beware of cable lengths on the Indy builtin SCSI port. You are limited to 3 meters total, and good quality cables are helpful. Sometimes a low-quality configuration will work, but often it will not. The Indy GIO SCSI expansion card is less picky. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 17:32:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA154694 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:31:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA27042 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:29:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA27011 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:29:46 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA20492 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:29:43 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA02293; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:28:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:28:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199801230128.UAA02293@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1231 Lines: 34 Alex deVries writes: > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > > repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix > > > just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with > > Including rewriting it ? > > Ah, I tried that specifically, and had problems too with Irix. So, the > disk is toast, and it'll go back to the storage room I found it in (along > with an AXP). > The 1 G drive I posted about last week was made visible to IRIX by modifying wd93_syncenable and wd93_syncperiod in /var/sysgen/master.d/wd93 before recompiling the IRIX kernel. Does anyone know of similar changes to the Linux source that would prevent the system from hanging on startup with the following message? sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cscsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 7, scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Inquiry 00 00 scsi0: Aborting connected command 7 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr - 20, sr=ff, 16777215 by - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command - asr = 20, sr=18. If this is a bug, as Alan said, maybe there's hope for my drive, as well as the one Alex has. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 20:05:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA174673 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:05:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA26146 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:02:02 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA26141 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:02:00 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA05711 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:01:58 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-25.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.25]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02675 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:01:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA08502; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 04:57:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 04:57:25 +0100 To: Oliver Frommel Cc: Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 01:04:30PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 616 Lines: 18 On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 01:04:30PM +0100, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > Could we not modify sash to know about ext2? > > I thought I read somewhere that we could get sash sources/info, which > > would help a lot. > > > > sash is located in the volumen header afaik(?) > wouldn't it be possible to replace sash by another (possibly free) bootloader? Basically we could Milo for the Indy also. Milo even has the required features to be built as ECOFF executable thus supporting old machines where the ARC proms can't load ELF. Q: What filesystem types are supported directly by the ARC firmware in the ROMs? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 20:15:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA175207 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:15:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA27910 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:14:09 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA27882 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:13:56 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA09023 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:13:54 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-25.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.25]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02915 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:13:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08546; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <19980123050831.56248@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:08:31 +0100 To: mdhill@interlog.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. References: <199801230128.UAA02293@mdhill.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801230128.UAA02293@mdhill.interlog.com>; from Michael Hill on Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 08:28:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4490 Lines: 86 On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 08:28:50PM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > Alex deVries writes: > > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > repartitioned it from Irix, and mounted it as an EFS partition under Irix > > > > just fine. That would seem to indicate that everything is alright with > > > Including rewriting it ? > > > > Ah, I tried that specifically, and had problems too with Irix. So, the > > disk is toast, and it'll go back to the storage room I found it in (along > > with an AXP). > > > > The 1 G drive I posted about last week was made visible to IRIX by > modifying wd93_syncenable and wd93_syncperiod in > /var/sysgen/master.d/wd93 before recompiling the IRIX kernel. Does > anyone know of similar changes to the Linux source that would prevent > the system from hanging on startup with the following message? > > sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2cscsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 7, scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Inquiry 00 00 > scsi0: Aborting connected command 7 - stopping DMA - sending wd33c93 ABORT command - flushing fifo - asr - 20, sr=ff, 16777215 by > - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command - asr = 20, sr=18. > > If this is a bug, as Alan said, maybe there's hope for my drive, as > well as the one Alex has. Use boot arguments to the kernel. Below the comments from the driver source documenting the possible arguments. Actually we should implement a blacklist feature; the current blacklist doesn't support a nosync or nodisconnect feature. /* * 'setup_strings' is a single string used to pass operating parameters and * settings from the kernel/module command-line to the driver. 'setup_args[]' * is an array of strings that define the compile-time default values for * these settings. If Linux boots with an amiboot or insmod command-line, * those settings are combined with 'setup_args[]'. Note that amiboot * command-lines are prefixed with "wd33c93=" while insmod uses a * "setup_strings=" prefix. The driver recognizes the following keywords * (lower case required) and arguments: * * - nosync:bitmask -bitmask is a byte where the 1st 7 bits correspond with * the 7 possible SCSI devices. Set a bit to negotiate for * asynchronous transfers on that device. To maintain * backwards compatibility, a command-line such as * "wd33c93=255" will be automatically translated to * "wd33c93=nosync:0xff". * - nodma:x -x = 1 to disable DMA, x = 0 to enable it. Argument is * optional - if not present, same as "nodma:1". * - period:ns -ns is the minimum # of nanoseconds in a SCSI data transfer * period. Default is 500; acceptable values are 250 - 1000. * - disconnect:x -x = 0 to never allow disconnects, 2 to always allow them. * x = 1 does 'adaptive' disconnects, which is the default * and generally the best choice. * - debug:x -If 'DEBUGGING_ON' is defined, x is a bit mask that causes * various types of debug output to printed - see the DB_xxx * defines in wd33c93.h * - clock:x -x = clock input in MHz for WD33c93 chip. Normal values * would be from 8 through 20. Default is 8. * - next -No argument. Used to separate blocks of keywords when * there's more than one host adapter in the system. * * Syntax Notes: * - Numeric arguments can be decimal or the '0x' form of hex notation. There * _must_ be a colon between a keyword and its numeric argument, with no * spaces. * - Keywords are separated by commas, no spaces, in the standard kernel * command-line manner. * - A keyword in the 'nth' comma-separated command-line member will overwrite * the 'nth' element of setup_args[]. A blank command-line member (in * other words, a comma with no preceding keyword) will _not_ overwrite * the corresponding setup_args[] element. * - If a keyword is used more than once, the first one applies to the first * SCSI host found, the second to the second card, etc, unless the 'next' * keyword is used to change the order. * * Some amiboot examples (for insmod, use 'setup_strings' instead of 'wd33c93'): * - wd33c93=nosync:255 * - wd33c93=nodma * - wd33c93=nodma:1 * - wd33c93=disconnect:2,nosync:0x08,period:250 * - wd33c93=debug:0x1c */ Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 22 21:26:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA178772 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:26:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA06095 for linux-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:22:19 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA06079 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:22:14 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA25046 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:22:11 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA27730 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:22:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Linux-installer 0.1c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 381 Lines: 14 I've merged the root-be-0.03 with Linux-installer 0.1 to make 0.1c. I know the filesystem works, I don't know about the installer and I can't do that until I have another disk to install on. - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 23 06:45:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA206989 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:45:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA02019 for linux-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:40:28 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA02007 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:40:23 -0800 Received: from sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca (sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca [204.225.88.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id GAA28692 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:40:22 -0800 env-from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: (qmail 24304 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1998 14:40:21 -0000 Received: from onramp.ca (root@204.225.88.3) by sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca with SMTP; 23 Jan 1998 14:40:21 -0000 Received: from bart.hgeng.com(imail.hgeng.com[199.246.72.233]) (2253 bytes) by onramp.ca via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:40:16 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #11 built 1997-Oct-23) Received: by bart.hgeng.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:42:13 -0500 Message-ID: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C011AD1@bart.hgeng.com> From: Mike Hill To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: (Cross-)Compiling a Kernel Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:42:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1681 Lines: 49 In December I upgraded my x86 Linux box to Debian libc6. Earlier this month I successfully built the x86 binutils 2.8.1 for cross-compiling the SGI/Linux kernel, but couldn't get through `make dep' when compiling the kernel (2.1.72). Here is the result: make dep make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/linux/arch/mips/boot' mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/src/linux/include -E -M *.[cS] > .depend make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linux/arch/mips/boot' scripts/mkdep init/*.c > .tmpdepend find -follow -name \*.h ! -name modversions.h -print | env -i xargs scripts/mkdep > .hdepend xargs: scripts/mkdep: terminated by signal 11 make: *** [dep-files] Error 125 This week I attempted to re-compile the native kernel (2.0.32) to handle a new CD drive. It gets stuck at the same place. make dep make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `dep'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' scripts/mkdep init/*.c > .tmpdepend scripts/mkdep `find /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/asm /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/linux /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/scsi /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/net -follow -name \*.h ! -name modversions.h -print` > .hdepend make: *** [dep-files] Error 139 I successfully compiled x86 kernels before the libc6 upgrade. Can these failures be related? Did I miss something in the upgrade? Ralf: I deleted the two `64' arguments in the IRIX 6.x target line of config.bfd, but my IRIX binutils quits compiling at the same place (stabs.c). Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 23 09:45:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA217707 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:45:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA12818 for linux-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:43:44 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA12742; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:43:33 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA13324; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:43:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:43:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199801231743.JAA13324@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: Oliver Frommel , Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 825 Lines: 22 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 01:04:30PM +0100, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > > Could we not modify sash to know about ext2? > > > I thought I read somewhere that we could get sash sources/info, which > > > would help a lot. > > > > > > > sash is located in the volumen header afaik(?) > > wouldn't it be possible to replace sash by another (possibly free) bootloader? > > Basically we could Milo for the Indy also. Milo even has the required > features to be built as ECOFF executable thus supporting old machines > where the ARC proms can't load ELF. > > Q: What filesystem types are supported directly by the ARC firmware in the > ROMs? In general, just bootp over Ethernet, tape files, and the volume header. Some machines support floppy (DOS?) and CDROM (iso9660). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 23 14:28:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA224695 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:28:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA12276 for linux-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:26:09 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12265 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:26:07 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id OAA14904 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:26:05 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:25:52 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xvrXl-002OiMC; Fri, 23 Jan 98 23:25 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA02086; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: <19980123232420.65169@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:24:20 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: Oliver Frommel , Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 04:57:25AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 506 Lines: 14 On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 04:57:25AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Q: What filesystem types are supported directly by the ARC firmware in the > ROMs? is there a way to do a raw disk access via ARC firmware ? Mabye we could use some bits from SILO (Sparc Linux Loader) and get ext2fs access this way. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 23 19:30:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id TAA323939 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:30:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA03312 for linux-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:27:43 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA03296 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:27:37 -0800 Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id TAA07922 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:27:18 -0800 env-from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA01949; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:24:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:24:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199801240324.WAA01949@mdhill.interlog.com> From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Linux-installer 0.1c In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 557 Lines: 26 Hi Alex, Running the installer with root-be-0.03 gives me the following: cjwsh>cpio root-be-0.03.cpio error -2 reading header: Error 0 and kicks me back to the root prompt. When I did it with root-be-0.01.cpio, it seemed to execute without a hitch. Alex deVries writes: > > I've merged the root-be-0.03 with Linux-installer 0.1 to make 0.1c. > > I know the filesystem works, I don't know about the installer and I can't > do that until I have another disk to install on. > Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 24 04:56:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA357490 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:56:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA18164 for linux-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:52:19 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA18159 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:52:13 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA11134 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 04:52:11 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09838; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:52:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA13508; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:52:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19980124135207.55601@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:52:07 +0100 To: Mike Hill Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: (Cross-)Compiling a Kernel References: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C011AD1@bart.hgeng.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C011AD1@bart.hgeng.com>; from Mike Hill on Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 09:42:12AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 32 On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 09:42:12AM -0500, Mike Hill wrote: > make dep > make[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `dep'. > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/arch/i386/boot' > scripts/mkdep init/*.c > .tmpdepend > scripts/mkdep `find /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/asm > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/linux > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/scsi > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/include/net -follow -name \*.h ! -name > modversions.h -print` > .hdepend > make: *** [dep-files] Error 139 > > I successfully compiled x86 kernels before the libc6 upgrade. Can these > failures be related? Did I miss something in the upgrade? Nothing obvious. > Ralf: I deleted the two `64' arguments in the IRIX 6.x target line of > config.bfd, but my IRIX binutils quits compiling at the same place > (stabs.c). Are you talking about native IRIX binutils or the irix -> mips-linux crosscompiler? For the first case I recommend using the native IRIX linker, for the later case you have to remove them from the entry for mips-*-linux*. See also the patch included in the binutils-2.8-2 rpm. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jan 24 05:20:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA360998 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 05:20:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA19865 for linux-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 05:16:45 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA19841 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 05:16:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id FAA15208 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 05:16:38 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10465; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:16:30 +0100 (MET) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id OAA14034; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: <19980124141627.19289@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:16:27 +0100 To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: Oliver Frommel , Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> <19980123232420.65169@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <19980123232420.65169@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 11:24:20PM +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by informatik.uni-koblenz.de id OAA10465 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 675 Lines: 20 On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 11:24:20PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 04:57:25AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > Q: What filesystem types are supported directly by the ARC firmware i= n the > > ROMs? >=20 > is there a way to do a raw disk access via ARC firmware ? Mabye we coul= d > use some bits from SILO (Sparc Linux Loader) and get ext2fs access this > way.=20 That=B4s one way. Another would be to do it like the Alpha Milo. Raw access should work by accessing something like scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0) or so. Milo should actually already provide all the framework required for easy implementation of ext2fs access. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 04:25:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA13102 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:25:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA17415 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:22:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA17410 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:22:04 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id EAA29467 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:22:02 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:21:37 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xwR41-002OiUC; Sun, 25 Jan 98 13:21 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA02143; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:47:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19980125124731.10567@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:47:31 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Cc: Oliver Frommel , Mike Shaver , Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: root-be-0.03.tar.gz References: <34C6E304.680D7541@netscape.com> <19980123045725.54480@uni-koblenz.de> <19980123232420.65169@alpha.franken.de> <19980124141627.19289@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980124141627.19289@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de on Sat, Jan 24, 1998 at 02:16:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1444 Lines: 31 > > is there a way to do a raw disk access via ARC firmware ? Mabye we could > > use some bits from SILO (Sparc Linux Loader) and get ext2fs access this > > way. > > That´s one way. Another would be to do it like the Alpha Milo. which would be IMHO a real overkill (Alpha Milo is nearly a complete Linux kernel with some special stuff for bringing up the hardware). It makes sense for Alphas as there are ARC only machines out, and the ARC PAL code isn't suited for Linux. So you have to replace the PAL code and after that the ARC firmware isn't able to do anything, so Alpha Milo has to boot the kernel itself. To this it needs to access the hardware and as the Linux drivers has already been available, why not use them ? Alpha Milo can also be used as the real firmware on some Alpha boards (I've flashed Alpha Milo, so my Alpha doesn't see any ARC stuff). For Mips Milo we don't need to change PAL code change or other strange stuff and with raw partition access we can do all what we want. > Raw access should work by accessing something like > scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(0) or so. Milo should actually already > provide all the framework required for easy implementation of ext2fs > access. good, I will to some tests:-) Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 15:43:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA42189 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:43:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08646 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:23 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08642 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:21 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA15509 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:20 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25451 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:40:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA03213; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19980125190514.19770@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:05:14 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: linux on R3000 References: <199801231929.UAA21362@papagena.skynet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801231929.UAA21362@papagena.skynet.be>; from Gilbert Thijs on Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 08:29:22PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 280 Lines: 9 On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 08:29:22PM +0100, Gilbert Thijs wrote: > I have a SGI Personal Iris R3000 Pros, 72Mb ram and IRIS 5.2 software. > I use LINUX on my PC (200MMX) and i like to use Linux also on my SGI > is that possible? R3000 machines aren't currently supported. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 15:43:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA42176 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:43:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08774 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:41:08 -0800 Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08759 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:41:06 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA02070; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:41:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08723; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:56 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA15562; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:54 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25477; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:40:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA03221; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:14:45 +0100 Message-ID: <19980125191445.00880@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:14:45 +0100 To: fisher@sgi.com Cc: Alex deVries , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com, William Fisher Subject: Re: wd33c93 errors. References: <199801230012.QAA28870@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801230012.QAA28870@hollywood.engr.sgi.com>; from William Fisher on Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 04:12:18PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1119 Lines: 21 On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 04:12:18PM -0800, William Fisher wrote: > I am getting the details but it seems that something is amiss > with the "standard" PC SCSI devices in this area. There is also > some fuzzy-ness going on in the device type they are advertizing > themselves to be. I will have the gory details shortly since we > would like to understand the problem. We have had a couple of > customers complain about this problem. Certain revisions of the wd33c93 recognicable by the number group 00-04 and the word PROTO printed on them (at least in the DIL case) have a problem in the microcode that may hang the chip until the next hardware reset. Unfortunately tons of these prototype versions have been shipped. The only way to run these chips reliable is to disable disconnect/reconnect. By my experience it looks as if not all devices produce that type of disconnect/reconnect bug. I never saw it happen for example during lowlevel formatting a SCSI disk but attempting to use disconnect/reconnect with QIC tapes was a 100% way for me to hang my system. No idea about other types of devices. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 15:43:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA42203 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:43:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08615 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:40:07 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08551 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:39:58 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA15467 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:39:56 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25428 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:39:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA03238; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:32:50 +0100 Message-ID: <19980125193250.63007@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:32:50 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Console problems... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 06:49:28PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 363 Lines: 12 On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 06:49:28PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Okay. I have a self-compiled kernel (like the vmlinux 2.1.72 kernel that > is on linus), and it actually boots fine for me. The problem is that it > doesn't display the bootup. The console output starts at the "INIT..." > line. > > Any ideas? Sounds like configured for serial console? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 15:48:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA42325 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:48:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA09418 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:48:05 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA09414 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:48:04 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA16811 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:47:54 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA07216; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:48:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:48:24 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Console problems... In-Reply-To: <19980125193250.63007@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 848 Lines: 24 On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 06:49:28PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > > Okay. I have a self-compiled kernel (like the vmlinux 2.1.72 kernel that > > is on linus), and it actually boots fine for me. The problem is that it > > doesn't display the bootup. The console output starts at the "INIT..." > > line. > > > > Any ideas? > > Sounds like configured for serial console? Yeah, that is the problem. The reason I had to turn serial console on in the first place was because of symbols being required in console.c. There were a couple of other unpleasant dependancies there that I've fixed. I'll upload those changes to the CVS soon. I'm also working on fixing root device support. Are there any plans to bring us up to 2.1.81? I might think of taking that on if nobody else is going to. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 22:07:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA54805 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:07:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA11091 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:04:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA11075 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:04:31 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA25265 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:04:28 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA27346 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:14 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Boot flags in the kernel. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 921 Lines: 27 I'm not sure if what I'm trying to do is possible. I'm trying to implement the same rootflags that are passwd within the kernel image in i386 into the MIPS kernel. In i386 there's a portion of the boot image reserved for these flags; they're things like console type, initial filesystem, initial ramdisk location, etc. It's traditionally been more important to have this feature in i386 because there wasn't anything nice like the PROMs on MIPS or Sparcs. But, there _is a good reason to have it; for install or rescue images it's nice to be able to boot with compressed initial ramdisk within the same boot image without having to pass the ramdisk offset on command line manually. Where in the kernel would we put this data? - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. 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From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jan 25 22:13:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA55017 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:13:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA12069 for linux-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:12:48 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA12065 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:12:46 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA27248 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:12:43 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA27483 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:13:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:13:30 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Modutils... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 601 Lines: 18 The more I work on this, the more I realize that I know nothing. For modutils to work, we need someone to go over the obj_mips.c in modutils. That's mostly ELF stuff, if I've read correctly. Has anyone done any work on that, or can they explain it to me? It'd be nice not always having to reboot to debug kernel work. The hard reboot button on my machine is starting to wear out. Thank god for thumbtacks! - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 09:21:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA79675 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:21:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA10298 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:19:21 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA10288 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:19:19 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id JAA10035 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:19:14 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21906 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:19:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05239; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: <19980126181555.11344@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:15:55 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Modutils... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 01:13:30AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 320 Lines: 14 On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 01:13:30AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > The more I work on this, the more I realize that I know nothing. > > For modutils to work, we need someone to go over the obj_mips.c in > modutils. No, I've already done that months ago. That's mostly ELF stuff, if I've read correctly. Yes. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 09:39:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA80976 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:39:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA15514 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:36:45 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA15509; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:36:44 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA08190; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:36:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:36:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199801261736.JAA08190@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Boot flags in the kernel. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1169 Lines: 27 Alex deVries writes: > > I'm not sure if what I'm trying to do is possible. I'm trying to implement > the same rootflags that are passwd within the kernel image in i386 into > the MIPS kernel. > > In i386 there's a portion of the boot image reserved for these flags; > they're things like console type, initial filesystem, initial ramdisk > location, etc. > > It's traditionally been more important to have this feature in i386 > because there wasn't anything nice like the PROMs on MIPS or Sparcs. > > But, there _is a good reason to have it; for install or rescue images it's > nice to be able to boot with compressed initial ramdisk within the same > boot image without having to pass the ramdisk offset on command line > manually. > > Where in the kernel would we put this data? I am sure where you should put it, but bear in mind that the command line options and environment are passed to the kernel much as if it were a user main program (as argc, argv, and envp, in $a0, $a1, and $a2), by sash or the PROM. You can get things like the console variable that way (console=g means textport and console=d means serial console). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 15:35:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA126689 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:35:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA06901 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:32:29 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA06886 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:32:24 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA16694 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:32:23 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.16]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08781 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:32:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05531; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:47:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19980126234714.47225@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:47:14 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Boot flags in the kernel. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 01:05:14AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 968 Lines: 24 On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 01:05:14AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > I'm not sure if what I'm trying to do is possible. I'm trying to implement > the same rootflags that are passwd within the kernel image in i386 into > the MIPS kernel. > > In i386 there's a portion of the boot image reserved for these flags; > they're things like console type, initial filesystem, initial ramdisk > location, etc. > > It's traditionally been more important to have this feature in i386 > because there wasn't anything nice like the PROMs on MIPS or Sparcs. > > But, there _is a good reason to have it; for install or rescue images it's > nice to be able to boot with compressed initial ramdisk within the same > boot image without having to pass the ramdisk offset on command line > manually. > > Where in the kernel would we put this data? If you _really_ need that you can copy the data into the .data segment during the initialization. See arch/mips/kernel/setup.c. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 15:52:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA135068 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:52:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA11733 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:49:26 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA11727 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:49:25 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA22277 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:49:17 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03162; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:49:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:49:57 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Boot flags in the kernel. In-Reply-To: <19980126234714.47225@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 420 Lines: 14 On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > Where in the kernel would we put this data? > > If you _really_ need that you can copy the data into the .data segment > during the initialization. See arch/mips/kernel/setup.c. But where would I copy it from? Where in the image would the symbols go? Would I just put this in after kernel_entry and kernel_end are written in mkboot.c (around lines 620-640)? - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 16:15:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA136512 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:15:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA20081 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:11:44 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA20061 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:11:39 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA02111 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:11:37 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.16]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16795 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:11:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA06528; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19980127010804.64864@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:08:04 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Boot flags in the kernel. References: <19980126234714.47225@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 06:49:57PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 845 Lines: 25 On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 06:49:57PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > Where in the kernel would we put this data? > > > > If you _really_ need that you can copy the data into the .data segment > > during the initialization. See arch/mips/kernel/setup.c. > > But where would I copy it from? Thinking about it, actually it's _way_ more elegant to write just a couple of lines brewing the right argument line to pass to the kernel and to just pass it than patching the command line in the kernel binary ... Where in the image would the symbols go? No symbols needed. > Would I just put this in after kernel_entry and kernel_end are written in > mkboot.c (around lines 620-640)? Mkboot isn't being used on SGI boxes because sash can directly boot the ELF image produced by the kernel. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 16:46:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA138737 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:46:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA00757 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:44:48 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA00716 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:44:39 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA13686 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:44:32 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06667 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:45:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:45:24 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: More on modules... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 518 Lines: 19 The modutils in the CVS appears to work; I'll get an RPM out tonight for others. But, I use the term 'work' with a grain of salt; the modules appear to load, but I get errors like: Illegal instruction at c000c0d0 ra=88034ed4 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c0008113, epc == c000c0d8, ra == 88034ed4 Killed - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, System Administrator run everything on Linux. The EngSoc Project Send spam to spam@engsoc.carleton.ca. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 17:54:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA153936 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20791 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:51:43 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA20780; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:51:41 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA09867; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:51:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:51:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199801270151.RAA09867@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: More on modules... In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 786 Lines: 20 Alex deVries writes: > > The modutils in the CVS appears to work; I'll get an RPM out tonight for > others. > > But, I use the term 'work' with a grain of salt; the modules appear to > load, but I get errors like: > Illegal instruction at c000c0d0 ra=88034ed4 > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c0008113, epc == > c000c0d8, ra == 88034ed4 > Killed ... I wonder if the kernel is properly synchronzing the I-cache with the D-cache after loading the module. In general, you need to writeback the primary D-cache and invalidate the primary I-cache for the range of addresses occupied by the driver (or simply index-writeback-invalidate all of the D-cache and index-invalidate all of the I-cache, if the driver is larger than the cache size). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 20:51:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA175122 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:51:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA24724 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:49:19 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA24719 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:49:14 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id UAA13408 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:49:09 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA17297; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:49:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:49:56 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Michael Hill cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Linux-installer 0.1d In-Reply-To: <199801240324.WAA01949@mdhill.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1274 Lines: 52 Alright. 0.1d is created with --format=newc, which appears to actually be the correct format. You can get it in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips-linux/GettingStarted/ . Sorry for the delay... I know very little about cpio, but I suspect that if you used GNU cpio on Irix it would have worked. - Alex -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, run everything on Linux. On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:24:20 -0500 > From: Michael Hill > To: Alex deVries > Cc: SGI Linux > Subject: Re: Linux-installer 0.1c > > Hi Alex, > > Running the installer with root-be-0.03 gives me the following: > > cjwsh>cpio root-be-0.03.cpio > error -2 reading header: Error 0 > > and kicks me back to the root prompt. When I did it with > root-be-0.01.cpio, it seemed to execute without a hitch. > > Alex deVries writes: > > > > I've merged the root-be-0.03 with Linux-installer 0.1 to make 0.1c. > > > > I know the filesystem works, I don't know about the installer and I can't > > do that until I have another disk to install on. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > -- > Michael Hill > Toronto, Canada > mdhill@interlog.com > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 21:27:39 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA175346 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:27:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA29316 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:25:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA29287 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:24:59 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA20723 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:24:56 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA18169 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:25:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: modutils-2.1.48-0.mips.rpm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 215 Lines: 11 Alright. modutils-2.1.48-0.mips.rpm is in ftp://ftp.sgi.linux.com/pub/... . It's for mipseb. Thank you, Ralf. -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, run everything on Linux. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jan 26 22:48:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA179436 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:48:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA08679 for linux-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:45:19 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA08672; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:45:17 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA06608; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:45:15 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29092; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:45:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA06851; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: <19980127074155.62514@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:41:55 +0100 To: "William J. Earl" Cc: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: More on modules... References: <199801270151.RAA09867@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801270151.RAA09867@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 05:51:40PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 875 Lines: 22 On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 05:51:40PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > But, I use the term 'work' with a grain of salt; the modules appear to > > load, but I get errors like: > > Illegal instruction at c000c0d0 ra=88034ed4 > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c0008113, epc == > > c000c0d8, ra == 88034ed4 > > Killed > ... > > I wonder if the kernel is properly synchronzing the I-cache with > the D-cache after loading the module. In general, you need to > writeback the primary D-cache and invalidate the primary I-cache for > the range of addresses occupied by the driver (or simply > index-writeback-invalidate all of the D-cache and index-invalidate all > of the I-cache, if the driver is larger than the cache size). Yes, we do that properly. Alex, when compiling modules, does the compiler pass the flag -mlong-jumps? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 27 00:09:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id AAA183147 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:09:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA17657 for linux-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:05:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA17650; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:05:13 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id AAA23487; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:05:11 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA27504; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 03:05:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 03:05:05 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: "William J. Earl" , SGI Linux Subject: Re: More on modules... In-Reply-To: <19980127074155.62514@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 728 Lines: 18 On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 05:51:40PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > I wonder if the kernel is properly synchronzing the I-cache with > > the D-cache after loading the module. In general, you need to > > writeback the primary D-cache and invalidate the primary I-cache for > > the range of addresses occupied by the driver (or simply > > index-writeback-invalidate all of the D-cache and index-invalidate all > > of the I-cache, if the driver is larger than the cache size). > > Yes, we do that properly. > Alex, when compiling modules, does the compiler pass the flag -mlong-jumps? No, but it does compile them with -mlong-calls. - Alex "damned insomnia" deVries From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 27 16:44:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA239398 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:44:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA02343 for linux-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:41:52 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA02326 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:41:49 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA12631 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:41:40 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02676 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:41:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:41:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Modules... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 255 Lines: 14 How unpleasant... while trying to load cdrom.o, I got: [insmod:411] Illegal instruction at c000ca34 ra=c0006a3c a couple of million times. Ideas? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, run everything on Linux. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 27 17:04:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA243852 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:04:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA07488 for linux-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:02:01 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA07473 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:01:59 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id RAA18079 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:01:57 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27185 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08096; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:58:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19980128015827.34915@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:58:27 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Q: R3000, how to manipulate CP0_EPC? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de on Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 06:32:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2608 Lines: 61 On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 06:32:09PM +0100, harald.koerfgen@netcologne.de wrote: > This is the begin of the RESTORE_ALL macro, which is used in ret_from_sys_call: > #define RESTORE_ALL \ > mfc0 t0, CP0_STATUS; \ > nop; \ > ori t0, 0x01; \ > xori t0, 0x01; \ > mtc0 t0, CP0_STATUS; \ > lw v0, PT_STATUS(sp); \ > lw v1, PT_LO(sp); \ > mtc0 v0, CP0_STATUS; \ > mtlo v1; \ > lw v0, PT_HI(sp); \ > lw v1, PT_EPC(sp); \ > mthi v0; \ > mtc0 v1, CP0_EPC; \ > .. > > PT_EPC is manipulated in do_sys to point behind the syscall instruction and a > PRINT(...) shows that v1 contains the correct value. Nevertheless CP0_EPC > remains to be unchanged. > > After finding that, I used the following test code: > #define RESTORE_ALL_TEST \ > lui v0,0xffff; \ > mtc0 v0,CP0_EPC; \ > nop; \ > mfc0 a1,CP0_EPC; \ > nop; \ > PRINT("CP0_EPC : %08x\n"); \ > > which "compiles" into: > 800375d0 lui $v0,0xffff > 800375d4 mtc0 $v0,$14 > 800375dc mfc0 $a1,$14 > 800375e4 lui $a0,0x800c > 800375e8 jal 80054478 > 800375ec addiu $a0,$a0,5680 > > and the result is: > CP0_EPC : 80036aa4 > > which is the address of the syscall instruction itself. But the result should be > 0xFFFF0000, shouldn't it?. > > Has anybody an explanation for this, or am I just completely blind? On the R3000 c0_epc is a readonly register - as documented. That's ok because the R3000 uses a different way of handling exceptions. What you'll have to do to return from an exception is about as follows: restore c0_status move k1, sp ; needed later restore all gp registers restore hi/lo registers lw k0, PT_EPC(sp) jr k0 rfe ; in the delay slot of the jr Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 27 22:13:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA308423 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:13:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA07804 for linux-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:09:35 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA07786 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:09:29 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA25220 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:09:27 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-07.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.7]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09324 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:09:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA08171; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <19980128022737.36152@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:27:37 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Mips Magnum and Linux References: <199801272051.PAA03145@hp817.speedware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199801272051.PAA03145@hp817.speedware.com>; from Chris. Rupnik on Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 03:51:58PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1894 Lines: 41 On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 03:51:58PM -0500, Chris. Rupnik wrote: > I noticed that the latest news page was updated yesterday, so i was wondering > if one of you had a little more time to perhaps guide me along in starting > a big endian port of linux for the mips magnum? Actually the big endian port should be pretty much straight forward because Linux is already running on big endian machines. What would need to be done is: - You'll have to implement a new boot strategy for the machine. The way it is being done for the other machines won't work because the big endian Magnum uses a different firmware. Q: is there any documentation available about the firmware used for the big endian Magnum 4000? Is it the same firmware as the old pre-ARC firmware for SGIs? What type of disk partitions do the old firmware rsp. the RISC/os use? (Sun style disklabels or ???) Cc to linux@engr where the real Magnum gurus are. - possibly fixing endianess related bugs in the code. The kernel runs on big endian machines however the Magnum specific code and drivers have only be tested on little endian machines - No work will have to be done on userland. - Caveat: the DMA engine in the Magnum does not know about the byteorder. The Magnum is actually designed as a little endian machine. If you're running the Magnum in big endian mode the DMA engine will read from memory in 64 bit chunks but not swap the byteorder as it would have to. This means data will correctly be read/written from/to the disk but media will not be exchangeable with other systems. A possible workaround would be to swap the buffers in software, but that's a performance problem for fast devices like hard disks. So initially you can just ignore the problem as long as you don't want to exchange data with other systems via exchangable media. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jan 27 21:05:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA281424 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:05:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA00061 for linux-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:02:22 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA00055 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:02:17 -0800 Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id VAA12310 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:02:14 -0800 env-from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA14872 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:02:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:02:10 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: SSH... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 431 Lines: 16 SSH 1.2.22-2i compiles just fine on SGI/Linux, and it actually works. There was a problem with 1.2.21 where it wouldn't handle incoming authentications. But, I live in the evil USA, and can't re-export it. Could someone in a decent country stick an RPM binary that's signed with a PGP key put it on ftp.replay.com ? Alan? - A -- Alex deVries Run Linux on everything, run everything on Linux. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jan 28 02:02:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA362865 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:02:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA07032 for linux-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA07025 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:32 -0800 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id CAA07313 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:31 -0800 env-from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA01926; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:00:22 GMT Received: by lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0xxUC0-0005FsC; Wed, 28 Jan 98 09:54 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: SSH... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:54:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jan 28, 98 00:02:10 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 205 Lines: 6 > But, I live in the evil USA, and can't re-export it. Could someone in a > decent country stick an RPM binary that's signed with a PGP key put it on > ftp.replay.com ? Alan? When I get a moment I will From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 16:35:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA552028 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:35:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA11646 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:32:51 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA11636 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:32:48 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA20554 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:32:45 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19469 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:32:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA08902; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19980128204307.61681@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:43:07 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Modules... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 07:41:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 610 Lines: 20 On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 07:41:40PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > How unpleasant... while trying to load cdrom.o, I got: > [insmod:411] Illegal instruction at c000ca34 ra=c0006a3c > > a couple of million times. Ideas? Not really. Your bugreport is missing a lot of important context. I might be able to help you much better if you provide a bit more information like - the System.map from the kernel map - the kernel version - your .config kernel configuration - did you load any modules before cdrom.o? If yes which ones? Please send me a dump of /proc/modules, and /proc/ksyms. Thanks, Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 12:52:40 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA507933 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:52:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA27221 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:49:53 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA27214 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:49:51 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id MAA15319 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:49:49 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:49:44 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xy0tr-002Oj9C; Thu, 29 Jan 98 21:49 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA01922; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:27:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:27:05 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: strange problem with my oli M700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 456 Lines: 13 Hi, I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access the prom otherwise ? Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 13:22:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA513177 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:22:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA06960 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:18:16 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA06833 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:18:01 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA24738 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:18:00 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04146; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:17:52 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA08678; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:17:50 +0100 Message-ID: <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:17:50 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: strange problem with my oli M700 References: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 09:27:05PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 478 Lines: 11 On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 09:27:05PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). > When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) > the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access > the prom otherwise ? Did you try uncached accesses via KSEG1? I wouldn't wonder if the used PROMs can't cope with the bursts generated for filling a cacheline. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 13:25:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA512052 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:25:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA09633 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:24:56 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA09621 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:24:55 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA26933 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:24:53 -0800 env-from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04468; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:24:50 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id WAA08923; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:24:48 +0100 Message-ID: <19980129222448.55873@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:24:48 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: strange problem with my oli M700 References: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 10:17:50PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 618 Lines: 14 On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 10:17:50PM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). > > When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) > > the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access > > the prom otherwise ? > > Did you try uncached accesses via KSEG1? I wouldn't wonder if the used > PROMs can't cope with the bursts generated for filling a cacheline. Which btw reminds me that enabling the second level cache on a Indy also makes call into the ARC firmware crash. Dunno why. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 13:54:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA513772 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:54:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA17566 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:42 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA17519 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:36 -0800 Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu (azure.engin.umich.edu [141.212.78.14]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id NAA05433 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:35 -0800 env-from (jwelling@engin.umich.edu) Received: from engin.umich.edu (pm371-01.dialip.mich.net [207.75.186.191]) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23551 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:51:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34D0F985.2DDF0814@engin.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:49:57 -0500 From: Jeremy Welling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New to group References: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> <19980129222448.55873@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 708 Lines: 14 Hello People, Just wondering if the web page for sgi-linux is a bit out of date with the install instructions. There's all kinds of stuff on the ftp server that isn't mentioned anywhere. I'll probably skim the news archive after this. I have an Indy. I run Linux on my pc, and am very interested in this port. What is the status of the xserver? What are the current goals of the port? How long do you expect before the dual boot is running? I would be willing to run it and participate as a beta tester and have subscribed to this list. If you could post an installation walkthrough or something updated for the latest changes, that would be great. Thanks, Jeremy Welling UofMich Engr Student From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 16:05:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA543990 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:05:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA29344 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:02:47 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA29339 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:02:46 -0800 Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id QAA06445 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:02:45 -0800 env-from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:02:42 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0xy3um-002Oj6C; Fri, 30 Jan 98 01:02 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02373; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:00:33 +0100 Message-ID: <19980130000032.48964@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:00:32 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: strange problem with my oli M700 References: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 10:17:50PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 789 Lines: 19 On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 10:17:50PM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 09:27:05PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > > I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). > > When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) > > the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access > > the prom otherwise ? > > Did you try uncached accesses via KSEG1? I wouldn't wonder if the used > PROMs can't cope with the bursts generated for filling a cacheline. uncached access works. Thanks. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jan 29 16:24:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA548519 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:24:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA06210 for linux-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:20:42 -0800 Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA06078; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:20:30 -0800 Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA02574; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:20:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:20:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199801300020.QAA02574@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: strange problem with my oli M700 In-Reply-To: <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> <19980129221750.18001@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 635 Lines: 13 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 09:27:05PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > > I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). > > When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) > > the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access > > the prom otherwise ? > > Did you try uncached accesses via KSEG1? I wouldn't wonder if the used > PROMs can't cope with the bursts generated for filling a cacheline. I am pretty certain that is the case for the Magnum. That is, you must use 0xbfc00000, not 0x9fc00000. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jan 30 06:11:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA689899 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA06201 for linux-list; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:08:46 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA06191 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:08:36 -0800 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id GAA14669 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:08:35 -0800 env-from (adyer@Mercury.mcs.net) Received: from Mercury.mcs.net (adyer@Mercury.mcs.net [192.160.127.80]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id IAA16879; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:08:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (adyer@localhost) by Mercury.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA29749; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:08:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:08:31 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew Dyer To: linux-mips@fnet.fr cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: strange problem with my oli M700 In-Reply-To: <19980129212705.29618@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 932 Lines: 20 On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to read the firmware prom of my Olivetti M700 (Magnum 4000 clone). > When access the address 0x9fc00000 (which is the KSEG0 address of the prom) > the box freezes immidiately. Does anybody know why ? And how could I access > the prom otherwise ? > Accesses through kseg0 generate burst reads on the CPU bus. If the memory controller doesn't support it for that region of memory, the system could hang. Since the system reset vector is in kseg1 (ie 0xbfc00000), accesses through that region have to work, or the machine wouldn't boot. | Andrew Dyer or | | Sr. Design Engineer (773) 961-1751 | | Midway Games, Inc. (773) 961-1890 (fax) | | 2727 W. Roscoe Ave., Chicago, IL 60618 |