From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Feb 28 15:47:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA115128 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:47:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA05525 for linux-list; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:46:37 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA05515 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:46:35 -0800 Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA06569 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:46:26 -0800 env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-23.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.23]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19441 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:46:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05334; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:42:54 +0100 Message-ID: <19980301004253.62178@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:42:53 +0100 To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: SGI/Linux vs. Linux/MIPS References: <199802280128.RAA31568@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 11:48:57PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 343 Lines: 10 On Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 11:48:57PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Are SGI/Linux and Linux/MIPS two different projects? No, SGI is just yet another MIPS box. It's why I never use the term Linux/SGI - except drivers and a bit of other low level things that are obviously different from machine to machine SGI boxes are just MIPS boxes. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 1 03:16:40 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id DAA142992 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:16:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA04124 for linux-list; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:15:56 -0800 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA04119; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:15:54 -0800 Received: from seaside2.varberg.se (mail.varberg.se [193.13.151.101]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id DAA18883; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 03:15:53 -0800 env-from (grimsy@seaside.se) Received: from calypso.saturn (grimsy@dialup156-4-50.swipnet.se [130.244.156.242]) by seaside2.varberg.se (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00736; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:15:49 GMT Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:17:42 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: Alex deVries cc: Ariel Faigon , SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: installation problem. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1102 Lines: 25 On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > 1. I know almost nothing about MIPS/Linux. Well, as soon as it boots for > > me will I study all its advantages and disadvantages. > > 2. My internet connection is not very fast. Only modem at home. Well, I > > have a faster connection at school, but you know. Serving a ftp > > with 10mb kernels is not a job for me. (well, I may take charge of the > > www site some day in the (near?) future). > > That's where SGI comes in nicely, providing us all with ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > I actually have some unfinished HOWTO docs you're welcome to have, but the > problem with them is that we haven't really realized a viable installation > method yet. Still gotta get the initrd stuff running... > > - Alex I have been trying to catch up this mailing list today. Reading all the postings since the beginning, very interesting. Can't you please send over your HOWTO docs and let me see them? I think the hack of the mklinux installation tool did its job excellent. I have nothing to complain of. -Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 2 08:17:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA199117 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:17:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA38816 for linux-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA35850 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from seaside2.varberg.se (mail.varberg.se [193.13.151.101]) by sgi.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/980301.SGI-antispam) via ESMTP id IAA00561 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:15:50 -0800 (PST) env-from (grimsy@seaside.se) Received: from calypso.saturn (grimsy@dialup118-2-1.swipnet.se [130.244.118.65]) by seaside2.varberg.se (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA17834; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:16:14 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:17:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: installation problem. In-Reply-To: <19980228012132.53451@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 167 Lines: 8 Evening. How's it going with the bug in include/asm-mips/r4kcache.h? I read the source file, but I didn't understand anything, you know - it's azzemblur ;-). - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 2 15:38:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA320306 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:38:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA143663 for linux-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA145318 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp817.speedware.com (hp817.speedware.com [192.197.116.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/980301.SGI-antispam) via ESMTP id PAA10620 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:37:03 -0800 (PST) env-from (chrisr@hp817.speedware.com) Received: (from chrisr@localhost) by hp817.speedware.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07626 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:37:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Chris. Rupnik" Message-Id: <199803022337.SAA07626@hp817.speedware.com> Subject: Netbooting Questions To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 98 18:37:01 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1] Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1114 Lines: 36 Hi All, I am attempting to netboot my MIPS machine. I have bfs running, now i am just looking for something to boot! This is what i get on the serial console. Note that the machine is in big endian mode. Rx4230 MIPS Monitor: Version 5.60 OPT-EB Wed Jun 17 11:23:28 PDT 1992 root now, from the instructions that Paul Antoine wrote about a year ago, the correct command to boot would be boot -f bfs()_filename_ ok, so here we go >> boot -f bfs()coco No server for coco couldn't load bfs()coco >> That is cool , as there is nothing in the directory called coco but, i need a first stage loader, i believe, like the SASH that is installed by RISC/OS. I have access to an SGI Webforce, but it does not have any sash on the machine. I also cannot mount the IRIX install cd in any other machine. The CD is not in CD9660 format, it appears. So , i am looking for a little advice on getting to the next step. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know! Chris From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 2 16:42:40 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA324787 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:42:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA162000 for linux-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA144030 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/980301.SGI-antispam) via ESMTP id QAA05005 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:41:11 -0800 (PST) env-from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18556 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:41:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA10081; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:28:49 +0100 Message-ID: <19980303012847.49483@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:28:47 +0100 To: "Chris. Rupnik" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Netbooting Questions References: <199803022337.SAA07626@hp817.speedware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803022337.SAA07626@hp817.speedware.com>; from Chris. Rupnik on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 06:37:01PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2105 Lines: 57 On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 06:37:01PM -0500, Chris. Rupnik wrote: > Hi All, > I am attempting to netboot my MIPS machine. I have bfs running, now i am > just looking for something to boot! > > This is what i get on the serial console. Note that the machine is in > big endian mode. > > Rx4230 MIPS Monitor: Version 5.60 OPT-EB Wed Jun 17 11:23:28 PDT 1992 root > > now, from the instructions that Paul Antoine wrote about a year ago, > the correct command to boot would be > > > boot -f bfs()_filename_ > > ok, so here we go > > >> boot -f bfs()coco > No server for coco > couldn't load bfs()coco > >> > > > That is cool , as there is nothing in the directory called coco Indeed it is cool because I had reports that our version of bfsd isn't working. > but, i need a first stage loader, i believe, like the SASH that is > installed by RISC/OS. I have access to an SGI Webforce, but it does not > have any sash on the machine. I also cannot mount the IRIX install cd in > any other machine. The CD is not in CD9660 format, it appears. The IRIX CD is EFS format and therefore not readable by the Magnum firmware. Anyway, IRIX and IRIX's sash won't run on the box. The sash binary is hidden in the volume header in kind of a very, very primitive filesystem - more similar to an ar archive than to a filesystem. I *suppose* that the way the IRIX and the RISC/os disks are layed out is similar. Anybody more details? In order to see how things look like on IRIX you may take a look at prtvtoc(1M), fx(1M), dvhtool(1M) and vh(7M). Furthermore the headerfile /usr/include/sys/dvh.h contains helpful stuff about how the volumeheader of the box looks like. > So , i am looking for a little advice on getting to the next step. If anyone > has any ideas, please let me know! Bad news. The big endian mode of the Magnum isn't supported so far. Therefore there is nothing sash alike yet. I hope hope the Magnum gurus at SGI can tell us more. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 3 22:05:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA224456 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:05:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA535868 for linux-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA537176 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980303.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA01325 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:41:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-15.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.15]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12958 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:41:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA15043; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:38:16 +0100 Message-ID: <19980304063814.53262@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:38:14 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: R4000SC / R4400SC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 192 Lines: 7 Hi all, I've commited my cache fixes into the CVS. I'm especially interested in test results on R4000SC / R4400SC CPUs. I'll also put source snapshot online in a couple of minutes. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 01:01:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA02508 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:01:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA543103 for linux-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA528038 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980303.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA18480 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08380 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.3]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA54A8; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:59:04 -0800 Message-ID: <34FCF462.EAE128D4@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:27:46 -0800 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: R4000SC / R4400SC References: <19980304063814.53262@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 257 Lines: 9 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I've commited my cache fixes into the CVS. I'm especially interested > in test results on R4000SC / R4400SC CPUs. I'll also put source > snapshot online in a couple of minutes. Woo! Mike (time to reinstall the xcompiler...) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 01:01:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA02504 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:01:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA542361 for linux-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA547066 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA21876 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:10:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08577 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:10:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.3]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA5B06 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:10:53 -0800 Message-ID: <34FCF726.3745A1DF@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:39:35 -0800 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Package Reflectors X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: xcompiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 165 Lines: 5 So, what do I use as an xcompiler (i486->Indy)? The stuff on linus in ~ftp/pub/crossdev/mips-linux/i486-linux is pretty old-looking, and that scares me a bit. Mike From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 04:01:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA09731 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:01:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA573033 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA561375 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:01:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA19754 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:01:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01990 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:01:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15428; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:27:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19980304082704.28878@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:27:04 +0100 To: Mike Shaver Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xcompiler References: <34FCF726.3745A1DF@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <34FCF726.3745A1DF@netscape.com>; from Mike Shaver on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:39:35PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 520 Lines: 12 On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:39:35PM -0800, Mike Shaver wrote: > So, what do I use as an xcompiler (i486->Indy)? > The stuff on linus in ~ftp/pub/crossdev/mips-linux/i486-linux is pretty > old-looking, and that scares me a bit. I think it should still be ok. Most of the changes I made were somehow related to luserland. Anyway, if you're paranoid you can install the binaries of binutils, gcc and libc on your crosscompiler box, then rebuild all the toys. This will save you from the pains of bootstrapping. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 00:58:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA02417 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:58:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA544950 for linux-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA553168 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA00107 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.10]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17262 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:50:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15436; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:31:00 +0100 Message-ID: <19980304083100.47574@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:31:00 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: CVS notifications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 120 Lines: 4 Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail notifications for my CVS commits anymore. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 04:01:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA09697 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:01:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA539893 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA573184 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA19378 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:00:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01878 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:00:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15909; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:53:57 +0100 Message-ID: <19980304095356.13782@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:53:56 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, tsbogend@alpha.franken.de Subject: ESP driver changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 116 Lines: 6 Thomas, what is the status of your ESP driver changes? Can we eventually merge them back to Vger / Linus? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 03:21:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA08311 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:21:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA540300 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA561193 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA11246 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:21:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.178.130]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yACD8-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:19:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:23:17 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: R4000SC / R4400SC In-Reply-To: <19980304063814.53262@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 374 Lines: 19 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Hi all, > > I've commited my cache fixes into the CVS. I'm especially interested > in test results on R4000SC / R4400SC CPUs. I'll also put source > snapshot online in a couple of minutes. > > Ralf Great :-) Please upload the precompiled kernel if you (someone) succeed with the compilation. I'm so curious. - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 03:52:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA09393 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:52:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA407975 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA561035 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA17944 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:51:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01078 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:51:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA16490; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:48:07 +0100 Message-ID: <19980304124807.56114@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:48:07 +0100 To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: R4000SC / R4400SC References: <19980304063814.53262@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 12:23:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 603 Lines: 23 On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 12:23:17PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > I've commited my cache fixes into the CVS. I'm especially interested > > in test results on R4000SC / R4400SC CPUs. I'll also put source > > snapshot online in a couple of minutes. > > > > Ralf > > Great :-) > > Please upload the precompiled kernel if you (someone) succeed with the > compilation. Who says I tried to compile it ... All those snapshots are true bananaware, read work in progress. > I'm so curious. Stop the compiler - in snapshot 980303 there is still a lot missing. I'll put a new snapshot online. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 09:39:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22567 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:39:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA616328 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA615265 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA27044 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:37:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA28458; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:37:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:37:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19980304083100.47574@uni-koblenz.de> (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Subject: Re: CVS notifications X-Windows: No hardware is safe. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 132 Lines: 5 > Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail > notifications for my CVS commits anymore. Neither do I. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 09:43:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22717 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA606494 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA607055 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA04154; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:20 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199803041743.JAA04154@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS notifications In-Reply-To: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> References: <19980304083100.47574@uni-koblenz.de> <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 448 Lines: 12 Miguel de Icaza writes: > > > Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail > > notifications for my CVS commits anymore. > > Neither do I. I see them; perhaps there is a problem with getting the mail out of SGI. We have sometimes had mail back up, although the linux list seems to be working ok. If the message do not come through by tomorrow, let me know, and I will ask the system people to check it out. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 09:46:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA22818 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:46:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA618235 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA602035; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (971110.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA54870; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:41 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199803041745.JAA54870@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: CVS notifications To: miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> from "Miguel de Icaza" at Mar 4, 98 11:37:02 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 586 Lines: 22 : : :> Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail :> notifications for my CVS commits anymore. : :Neither do I. : This seems to be a temporary problem with our mail server. As the owner of the list I've been getting all the bounces. The reason is probably related to the fact we are starting to do more aggressive testing of IRIX 6.5 by putting it on all the critical campus servers: % rsh guest@relay uname -a IRIX64 cthulhu 6.5-BETA-1274425944 02281110 IP19 ---------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No worries, this is going to get fixed. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 10:47:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA28700 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:47:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA630099 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA626783 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA02388 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:46:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.152.104]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yAJAH-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:45:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:48:48 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS notifications In-Reply-To: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 62 Lines: 5 How do I submit myself to the CVS notification list? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 11:54:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA31786 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:54:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA654286 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA591800 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980304.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA29947 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:52:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA04610; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:51:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:51:37 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Miguel de Icaza cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS notifications In-Reply-To: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 307 Lines: 12 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail > > notifications for my CVS commits anymore. > Neither do I. I got 1 of them, which makes me worry that I missed a couple of hundred. Is there a simple log of them available? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 4 15:30:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA60290 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA702999 for linux-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA699792 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA25294 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:29:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.22]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09216 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:29:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA17023; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:26:31 +0100 Message-ID: <19980305002630.53001@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:26:30 +0100 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS notifications References: <199803041737.LAA28458@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 02:51:37PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 653 Lines: 19 On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 02:51:37PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > > > > > Did anybody change the mail setup on linus? I don't receive any mail > > > notifications for my CVS commits anymore. > > Neither do I. > > I got 1 of them, which makes me worry that I missed a couple of hundred. > Is there a simple log of them available? The mails themselfes are unfortunately not being archivived; It's easy to implement that, so I'm going to do that. You however can still check the servers $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/history file and the messages archives within each RCS file using the ``cvs log ...'' command. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 5 12:54:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA88581 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:54:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA653718 for linux-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA883736 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA26372 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:52:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13360 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:52:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18354; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:31:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19980305213144.33306@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:31:44 +0100 To: Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: R3000 glibc References: <19980305003010.18771@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Harald Koerfgen on Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 08:29:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2618 Lines: 76 Thought this might as well be interesting to other as well, so I copy this to the usual lists. On Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 08:29:51PM +0100, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > BTW Eine Sache, die ich schon immer wissen wollte, aber nie zu fragen wagte: > > Wie sieht das eigentlich mit der CPU-Abhaengigkeit der glibc aus? > > Ich habe gerade damit anfgefangen, mich mit dem Ramdisk-Support fuer linux/MIPS zu > beschaeftigen und moechte spaeter einmal ein Ramdisk-Image zum Kernel-Image > dazulinken, welches als root gemountet werden soll. Auf diesem moechte ich eine > statisch gelinkte bash unterbringen. Meine eigentliche Frage ist nun, wuerde das mit > der existierenden glibc funktionieren, oder muesste ich eine R3000-spezifische glibc > bauen? All the published userland binaries have been compiled using MIPS ISA 1. The sole exception is glibc. As it is usual for Linux, the MIPS binaries of glibc have been built using the three add-ons crypt, localedata and linuxthreads. In order to be threadsafe LinuxThreads has to use some kind of semaphores etc.. Since it is the natural way of doing things for R6000 and better, I choose to implement this using the ll and sc instructions. For the members of the MIPS CPU family which are lacking these two instructions I suggest to simulate them in the reserved instruction handler. This will work for all uniprocessor systems and using the special hardware which is part of old R2000/R3000 systems it would even be SMP proof - if we ever do R3000 SMP ... It wouldn't be interrupt safe as well. The implementation could roughly look like: unsigned long ll_bit, lladdr; void simulate_ll(struct pt_regs *regs) { unsigned long addr; /* * analyse the ll instruction that just caused a ri exception * and put the referenced address to addr. */ [...] lladdr = addr; ll_bit = 1; regs[reg_to_be_loaded] = *addr; } void simulate_sc(struct pt_regs *regs) { /* * analyse the ll instruction that just caused a ri exception * and put the referenced address to addr. */ [...] lladdr = addr; if (ll_bit = 0) { regs[reg_to_be_stored] = 0; return; } *addr = regs[reg_to_be_loaded]; regs[reg_to_be_loaded] = 1; } The scheduler would have to clear ll_bit on every context switch in order to take care of shared memory and threads sharing their mm_struct. There are for shure better ways of doing this, but this implementation would keep the 100% binary compatibility. The way not to do it is to use sysmips(MIPS_ATOMIC_SET, ...) syscall which would result in the full syscall overhead. Even though Linux's is way less than RISC/OS's ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 5 14:08:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA96491 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:08:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA862660 for linux-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA882895 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA27393 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:08:03 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0yAinu-002OyQC; Thu, 5 Mar 98 23:07 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA02711; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:09 +0100 Message-ID: <19980305222309.52959@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:09 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ESP driver changes References: <19980304095356.13782@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980304095356.13782@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:53:56AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 702 Lines: 16 On Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:53:56AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > what is the status of your ESP driver changes? Can we eventually merge > them back to Vger / Linus? the version in our CVS is tested on my mips machine and on my SS2 clone. The only open issue with the ESP driver is using it as a module, which I didn't try on neither platform. Another problem is to bring the scsi layer up to date as there have been some changes during 2.1.8something, which also affects the low level drivers. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 5 13:58:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA96128 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA902466 for linux-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from xtp.engr.sgi.com (xtp.engr.sgi.com [150.166.75.34]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA858058 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by xtp.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id NAA29549; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:08 -0800 From: "Greg Chesson" Message-Id: <9803051357.ZM29547@xtp.engr.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de "R3000 glibc" (Mar 5, 9:31pm) References: <19980305003010.18771@uni-koblenz.de> <19980305213144.33306@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: R3000 glibc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 80 Lines: 3 Interesting indeed: one could implement nested ll-sc sequences by emulation. g From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 03:45:11 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA122502 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:45:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA1129020 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA1131505 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA10524 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:44:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id MAA17718 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:44:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:44:27 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Frommel Reply-To: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xcompiler In-Reply-To: <19980304082704.28878@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 575 Lines: 18 hi, after mirroring the CVS archive on ftp.linux.sgi.com i tried to crosscompile the kernel (on an irix host, btw). Unfortunately the CVS version seems to be a bit out of date/inconsistent. E.g. fs/nfs/nfsroot.c uses the obsolete struct device .. I finally managed to compile it with CONFIG_ROOT_NFS by replacing fs/super.c by the one from the main kernel source and changing fs/nfs/nfsroot.c accordingly (just replacing fs/nfs/nfsroot.c won't work) .. Is anyone going to clean/merge this part of the kernel on sgi.com to be in sync with the main kernel tree?? oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 08:50:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA124314 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA1215842 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA1150420 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA06849 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:50:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA24406; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:24:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19980306152442.52448@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:24:42 +0100 To: Oliver Frommel Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xcompiler References: <19980304082704.28878@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 12:44:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 871 Lines: 18 On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 12:44:27PM +0100, Oliver Frommel wrote: > after mirroring the CVS archive on ftp.linux.sgi.com i tried to crosscompile > the kernel (on an irix host, btw). Unfortunately the CVS version seems to be > a bit out of date/inconsistent. E.g. fs/nfs/nfsroot.c uses the obsolete > struct device .. > I finally managed to compile it with CONFIG_ROOT_NFS by replacing fs/super.c > by the one from the main kernel source and changing fs/nfs/nfsroot.c accordingly > (just replacing fs/nfs/nfsroot.c won't work) .. > > Is anyone going to clean/merge this part of the kernel on sgi.com to be in sync > with the main kernel tree?? The state of the nfsroot stuff is whatever is was when 2.1.73 on which the current CVS kernel is based, was current. I didn't take a closer look if later kernel versions have already fixed that problem, but I hope so. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 08:50:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA126308 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA891101 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA1210622 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA06650 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07602 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:50:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA24674; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:46:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19980306174605.00092@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:46:05 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: xntp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 276 Lines: 6 Don't run xntpd; there is some bug in the MIPS stuff which locks the machine, only the usual kernel hotkeys are still working. I don't know why or if all platforms are affected. The crash happend on a RM200. The time code is ripe for a complete overhaul anyway ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 10:29:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA134035 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:29:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA1248196 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA1255637 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA16472 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11794 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:28:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA24907; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:25:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19980306192514.14435@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:25:14 +0100 To: Trevor Schroeder Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xntp References: <19980306174605.00092@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Trevor Schroeder on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 11:01:32AM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 23 On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 11:01:32AM -0600, Trevor Schroeder wrote: > > Don't run xntpd; there is some bug in the MIPS stuff which locks the > > machine, only the usual kernel hotkeys are still working. I don't > > know why or if all platforms are affected. The crash happend on a > > RM200. The time code is ripe for a complete overhaul anyway ... > > Do tell, what exactly is this bug? I'm using xntpd on a number of non-MIPS > Linux hosts here and I'd like to verify that it's not going to be a problem. I appears as if a syscall never terminates or so. xntpd just hangs in 'R' (running) state in the process table. This happens immediately after starting xntpd from the command line. For now I assume this to be a MIPS only bug - Ulrich Windl posted some NTP4 related patches and that's about everything I heared in the last time related to NTP bugs. So don't worry, I'm going to fix it next week - there is something non-MIPSish on my to-do list that is more urgent ... On the other side xntpd builds right out of the box for Linux/MIPS and that's already good news, given the complexity of the thing and how difficult it builds for IRIX. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 11:51:39 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA162776 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA992134 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA1288416 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA20029 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:49:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-11.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.11]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14660 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:49:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA25048; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:45:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19980306204529.39369@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:45:29 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: More ntp ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 154 Lines: 4 Tried xntpd the Indy as well. Xntpd doesn't crash the box but the Indy timekeeping is that flaky that xntpd marks all timeservers as ``insane''. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 14:48:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA180746 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA1345808 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA1326939 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA02518 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:47:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.174.158]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yB5rn-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:45:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:16 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: kernel. In-Reply-To: <19980306192514.14435@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 144 Lines: 5 Did someone compile the latest tarball ralf made? Does it work? Is it worth the time it takes to download the xcompiler and the source? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 16:01:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA182933 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:01:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA1403431 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA1401176 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA02410 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:00:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23122 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:00:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA25725; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:56:27 +0100 Message-ID: <19980307005627.46269@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:56:27 +0100 To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel. References: <19980306192514.14435@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 11:49:16PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 240 Lines: 8 On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 11:49:16PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Did someone compile the latest tarball ralf made? Does it work? Is it > worth the time it takes to download the xcompiler and the source? Of course it is working :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 16:08:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA183138 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:08:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA1382323 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA1396752 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA05601 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:07:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28567 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:07:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA25996; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19980307010349.20397@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 01:03:49 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: NTP, once more Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4121 Lines: 87 Sigh, it's sometimes useful not to cleanup mailfolders. The following patch provided by Mark Salter ages ago should fix the problem. It definately fixes a serious problem and makes the kernel print warnings in case of another; I just haven't tested if this fixes xntpd. Ralf >From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Aug 14 00:15:32 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA19735 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:15:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id PAA07825; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:14:18 -0700 env-from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA23089 for linux-list; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:44 -0700 Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA23083 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:42 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.qms.com (gatekeeper.qms.com [161.33.3.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via SMTP id PAA06378 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:09:39 -0700 env-from (marks@sun470.sun470.rd.qms.com) Received: from sun470.rd.qms.com (sun470.qms.com) by gatekeeper.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02346; Wed, 13 Aug 97 17:09:34 CDT Received: from speedy.rd.qms.com by sun470.rd.qms.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23850; Wed, 13 Aug 97 17:09:32 CDT Received: by speedy.rd.qms.com (8.8.2) id RAA31518; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:09:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:09:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199708132209.RAA31518@speedy.rd.qms.com> From: Mark Salter To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: clock skew and ethernet timeouts Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO I've been taking a look at the problem with frequent ethernet transmit timeouts. In addition to the timeouts, I've also seen an occasional duplicate packet being sent in response to pings coming from another machine. I'm debugging somewhat in the dark because I don't have documentation on the indy's DMA controller although the sgihpc.h file has been helpful. I also noticed that the linux time of day clock falls behind real time whenever these timeouts occur. I decided to take a look at this side of the problem and discovered that interrupts are being turned off for extended periods of time. I modified the timer interrupt handler to print a message if it detects a missed system tick. Sure enough, every ethernet timeout is accompanied by a message coming from the timer interrupt. The message indicates that the timer interrupt was held off for as much as 45ms! Here's the change I made to indy_timer_interrupt() in indy_timers.c: /* Ack timer and compute new compare. */ #if 0 r4k_cur = (read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT) + r4k_offset); #else count = read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT); if ((count - r4k_cur) >= r4k_offset) { printk("missed heartbeat: r4k_cur[0x%x] count[0x%x]\n", r4k_cur, count); r4k_cur = count + r4k_offset; } else r4k_cur += r4k_offset; #endif The original code which calculates the next value for the CP0_COMPARE register introduces skew by basing it on the current value of the CP0_COUNT register rather than the previous CP0_COMPARE value. But as it turns out, that little bit of skew is preferable to the large skew that would result whenever the timer interrupt is held off too long. Anyway, I'm going to be away from the office until 19 August, so I'll pick it up then unless someone else finds it first. It seems likely that the enet timeouts are the result of interrupts being turned off too long, but if that's not the case, can someone point me to some documentation for the indy's dma controller? I have some suspicions of race conditions when setting up new DMA buffers, but I'd like to have a document before I try various fixes. -- Mark Salter marks@sun470.rd.qms.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 16:18:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA183459 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:18:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA1406549 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA1386604 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA13149; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:18:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:18:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199803070018.QAA13149@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: NTP, once more In-Reply-To: <19980307010349.20397@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980307010349.20397@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2623 Lines: 58 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: ... > From: Mark Salter > To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: clock skew and ethernet timeouts ... > I also noticed that the linux time of day clock falls behind > real time whenever these timeouts occur. I decided to take a > look at this side of the problem and discovered that interrupts > are being turned off for extended periods of time. I modified > the timer interrupt handler to print a message if it detects > a missed system tick. Sure enough, every ethernet timeout is > accompanied by a message coming from the timer interrupt. The > message indicates that the timer interrupt was held off for > as much as 45ms! > > > Here's the change I made to indy_timer_interrupt() in indy_timers.c: > > /* Ack timer and compute new compare. */ > #if 0 > r4k_cur = (read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT) + r4k_offset); > #else > count = read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT); > if ((count - r4k_cur) >= r4k_offset) { > printk("missed heartbeat: r4k_cur[0x%x] count[0x%x]\n", > r4k_cur, count); > r4k_cur = count + r4k_offset; > } > else > r4k_cur += r4k_offset; > #endif ... I have not checked the source, but is the workaround for the R4000 count/compare bug in read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT)? If not, every once in a while you will lose count/compare interrupts for about 84 seconds on a 100 MHZ R4000. Note that this bug does not apply to any other processor. The bug is that the processor fails to signal an interrupt if $count is read at exactly the cycle that $count == $compare. Since $compare is commonly not that far ahead of $count when one is using it for timer interrupts, this is far more likely than it might seem at first thought. The workaround I did in IRIX, for R4000 only, was to keep a shadow copy of $compare, and, with interrupts disabled, fetch $count and see if it was very close to the shadow value of $compare (to allow for the possibility that "close" counted in R4000 bugs as well as in horseshoes :-) ), and, if so, whether the timer interrupt was pending in $sr. If the timer was not pending, I would then enter a loop where it would set $compare a little ahead of the current $count, and then wait a few cycles for the interrupt to turn on in $sr, retrying with a larger window if I missed the window on the first try. It is important to have interrupts off (mfc0 $a0,C0_SR; mtc0 zero,C0_SR) while doing this workaround to avoid all sorts of races with higher level code and also minimize unexpected cache misses (which greatly affect the timing). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 6 17:41:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA184636 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:41:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA1397037 for linux-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA1434652 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mung.wayne.esu1.k12.ne.us (cis-2511-a1.wsc.edu [192.150.175.187]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id RAA02833 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:41:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tschroed@cheetah.wsc.edu) Received: by mung.wayne.esu1.k12.ne.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA00887; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:40:30 -0600 Other-Stuff: localhost tschroed@cheetah.wsc.edu tschroed@cheetah.wsc.edu Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:40:30 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Schroeder X-Sender: tschroed@mung.wsc.edu To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xntp In-Reply-To: <19980306192514.14435@uni-koblenz.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 632 Lines: 13 On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I appears as if a syscall never terminates or so. xntpd just hangs in 'R' > (running) state in the process table. This happens immediately after > starting xntpd from the command line. For now I assume this to be a MIPS > only bug - Ulrich Windl posted some NTP4 related patches and that's about > everything I heared in the last time related to NTP bugs. So don't worry, > I'm going to fix it next week - there is something non-MIPSish on my to-do > list that is more urgent ... I would agree that it seems to be a MIPS only problem as it's not causing problems on Linux/x86. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 7 13:36:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA217036 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:36:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA1683345 for linux-list; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA1657122 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA11696 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:35:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.145.16]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yBRDV-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:33:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:37:30 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel. In-Reply-To: <19980307005627.46269@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1777 Lines: 41 On Sat, 7 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 11:49:16PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > > Did someone compile the latest tarball ralf made? Does it work? Is it > > worth the time it takes to download the xcompiler and the source? > > Of course it is working :-) Ok, I downloaded the kernel + xcompiler. It didn't work, got a compile error. I can't fix it because it's the gloomy azzemblur again. make[1]: Entering directory `/home/grimsy/sgi-lin/linux-980304/arch/mips/kernel'mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/grimsy/sgi-lin/linux-980304/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o entry.S: Assembler messages: entry.S:146: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:146: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/grimsy/sgi-lin/linux-980304/arch/mips/kernel' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 Tell me if I should give some other information. - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 7 14:21:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA218228 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA1705059 for linux-list; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA1701688 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA19949 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:21:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id XAA24044; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:20:57 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:20:57 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Frommel Reply-To: Oliver Frommel To: Ulf Carlsson cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 332 Lines: 12 > Ok, I downloaded the kernel + xcompiler. > > It didn't work, got a compile error. I can't fix it because it's the > gloomy azzemblur again. > yeah. i get exactly the same error messages when compiling on an x86 Linux host. crosscompiling on an IRIX host worked though (and i could put an image up for ftp if you like) oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 8 01:57:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA251929 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:57:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA1842649 for linux-list; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA1838851 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA02727 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:56:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.171.70]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yBcm8-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:53:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:58:50 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: Oliver Frommel cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 479 Lines: 17 On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > Ok, I downloaded the kernel + xcompiler. > > > > It didn't work, got a compile error. I can't fix it because it's the > > gloomy azzemblur again. > > > > yeah. i get exactly the same error messages when compiling on an x86 Linux host. > crosscompiling on an IRIX host worked though (and i could put an image up for > ftp if you like) Yes, I would appreciate your kernel image on ftp! Is your kernel compiled for r4x00? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 8 04:53:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA290765 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:53:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA1866563 for linux-list; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA1577278 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA25113 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:52:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.187.51]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yBfWQ-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:49:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:54:50 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: paging requests again. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1880 Lines: 56 I got a compiled kernel from Oliver (greetings to him). I recieve almost the same error messages as before. Obviously worked the kernel with Oliver's Indy: > PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 > PROMLIB: Total free ram 64589824 bytes (63076K,61MB) > ARCH: SGI-IP22 > CPU: MIPS-R5000 FPU ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE > Loading R4000 MMU routines. > CPU revision is: 00002310 > Primary instruction cache 32768kb, linesize 32 bytes) > Primary data cache 32768kb, linesize 32 bytes) > MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 > R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 512K linesize 128 bytes > Enabling R4600 SCACHE > calculating r4koff... 000e3328(930600) But here's the output I got from my Indy. (reserved for misspellings :) PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 PROMLIB: Total free ram 32284672 bytes (31528K,30MB) RCH: SGI-IP22 CPU: MIPS-R4000 FPU ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE Loading R4000 MMU routines CPU revision is: 00000430 Primary instruction cache 8192kb, linesize 16 bytes) Primary data cache 8192kb, linesize 16 bytes) Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128 MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 R4600/R5000 SCACHE size 0K linesize 128 bytes calculating r4koff... 0003fd7c(261500) GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup ... Memory: 28104k/163372k available (1068k kernel code, 2352 data) ... Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. ... loop: registered device at major 7 WD93: Driver version 1.25 compiled on ... debug_flags=0x00 wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0xff no_dma=0scsi0 : SGI WD93 scsi : 1 host. sending SDTR 0103013f0csync_xfer=2c<1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c0000068, epc == 88022ec0, ra == 880dccf4 Aiee, killing interrupt handler Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task In swapper task - not syncing Puh.. BTW, isn't this kernel supposed to work on my Indy? Thank you very much. - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 9 08:40:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA351073 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:40:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA2065010 for linux-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA2208810 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from grz1.fh-albsig.de (grz1.fh-albsig.de [141.87.110.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980308.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA07356 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:39:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nice@fh-albsig.de) Received: from fh-albsig.de (indy3.tin.fh-albsig.de [141.87.172.65]) by grz1.fh-albsig.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA04239; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:39:27 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <35041B93.BCDE1B46@fh-albsig.de> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:40:51 -0800 From: "//\\/\\ario Tomaseli" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca Subject: Linux for SGI Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6A85D27434270187EDF87527" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 46 --------------6A85D27434270187EDF87527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo, my name ist Mario I'm a student of computer science from Germany. I usually used to work with linux, now I have to do my diploma on a SGI/Indigo2 R4400. Because I have all my software under linux, I would like to work with linux for SGI.. I got the 'GettingStarted software' from the ftp-server, I followed all the intractions and everythings goes fine but starting the vmlinux kernel. Could you help me to find out what I does wrong ?? ................//\/\ario.. --------------6A85D27434270187EDF87527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo,
my name ist Mario I'm a student of computer science from Germany. I usually used to work with linux, now I have to do my diploma on a SGI/Indigo2 R4400. Because I have all my software under linux, I would like to work with linux for SGI..

I got the 'GettingStarted software' from the ftp-server, I followed all the intractions and everythings goes fine but starting the vmlinux kernel.

Could you help me to find out what I does wrong ??
  

 
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  --------------6A85D27434270187EDF87527-- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 9 08:53:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA354766 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:53:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA2238048 for linux-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA2247927 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980308.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA14527 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:53:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from mahler (ralf@mahler.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.7]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03657; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:52:55 +0100 (MET) Received: by mahler (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA00331; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:52:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19980309175252.07223@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:52:52 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: ///ario Tomaseli Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca Subject: Re: Linux for SGI References: <35041B93.BCDE1B46@fh-albsig.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <35041B93.BCDE1B46@fh-albsig.de>; from //\/\ario Tomaseli on Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 08:40:51AM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 626 Lines: 19 Hallo Mario, On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 08:40:51AM -0800, //\/\ario Tomaseli wrote: > Hallo, > my name ist Mario I'm a student of computer science from Germany. I > usually used to work with linux, now I have to do my diploma on a > SGI/Indigo2 R4400. Because I have all my software under linux, I would > like to work with linux for SGI.. > > I got the 'GettingStarted software' from the ftp-server, I followed all > the intractions and everythings goes fine but starting the vmlinux > kernel. > > Could you help me to find out what I does wrong ?? Kannst Du mir die Ausgabe des hinv-Kommandos unter IRIX schicken? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 9 09:02:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA355221 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:02:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA2246437 for linux-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA2247665 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980308.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA17873 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:01:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA29307; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:55:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:55:39 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: ///ario Tomaseli , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for SGI In-Reply-To: <19980309175252.07223@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 505 Lines: 13 On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 08:40:51AM -0800, //\/\ario Tomaseli wrote: > > I got the 'GettingStarted software' from the ftp-server, I followed all > > the intractions and everythings goes fine but starting the vmlinux > > kernel. > > Could you help me to find out what I does wrong ?? > Kannst Du mir die Ausgabe des hinv-Kommandos unter IRIX schicken? Can you also tell us what errors you're getting? - Alex "see? my Dutch heritage is paying off" deVries From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 10 00:23:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA493668 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:23:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA2595269 for linux-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA2609326 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw ([140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA15903 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:22:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (tonywu@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04044; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:11:26 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:11:25 +0800 (CST) From: "Tony C. Wu" X-Sender: tonywu@sparc To: Alex deVries cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for SGI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 864 Lines: 26 We have the same problem on Indy, IP22. The error msg is: bus error, should not happen yet blahblah -- Tony C. Wu System administrator Email: tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw Dept. of Life Sciences Voice: +886-3-574-2772 NTHU, Hsin-Chu, Taiwan Fax: +886-3-571-5934 On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 09, 1998 at 08:40:51AM -0800, //\/\ario Tomaseli wrote: > > > I got the 'GettingStarted software' from the ftp-server, I followed all > > > the intractions and everythings goes fine but starting the vmlinux > > > kernel. > > > Could you help me to find out what I does wrong ?? > > Kannst Du mir die Ausgabe des hinv-Kommandos unter IRIX schicken? > > Can you also tell us what errors you're getting? > > - Alex "see? my Dutch heritage is paying off" deVries > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 10 07:41:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA502051 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:41:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA2692458 for linux-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA2714009 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA21508 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08182 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:40:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA05310; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:37:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19980310163735.18802@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:37:35 +0100 To: "Tony C. Wu" Cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for SGI References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Tony C. Wu on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 04:11:25PM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 305 Lines: 11 On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 04:11:25PM +0800, Tony C. Wu wrote: > We have the same problem on Indy, IP22. The error msg is: bus error, > should not happen yet blahblah Which kernel? The bug which started this thread was caused by an unsupported gfx card, the Elan GFX. Not much I can do about it. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 10 07:58:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA501980 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:58:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA2618850 for linux-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA2211350 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA27521 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:57:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (tonywu@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07050; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:49:30 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:49:30 +0800 (CST) From: "Tony C. Wu" X-Sender: tonywu@sparc To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for SGI In-Reply-To: <19980310163735.18802@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 468 Lines: 21 The kernel in the GettingStarted directory of ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com. -- Tony C. Wu On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 04:11:25PM +0800, Tony C. Wu wrote: > > > We have the same problem on Indy, IP22. The error msg is: bus error, > > should not happen yet blahblah > > Which kernel? > > The bug which started this thread was caused by an unsupported gfx card, > the Elan GFX. Not much I can do about it. > > Ralf > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 11 09:56:39 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA408085 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:56:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA486734 for linux-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA2281055 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA14604; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:38 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199803111755.JAA14604@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@linus.linux.sgi.com (Ralf Baechle) CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS Update@linus.linux.sgi.com: linux In-Reply-To: <199803111521.HAA27172@linus.linux.sgi.com> References: <199803111521.HAA27172@linus.linux.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 890 Lines: 19 Ralf Baechle writes: ... > o The calculated values for r4k_offset are still off by ~480 from the > theoretical values. That means we're going to loose about 46 s per > day. Are the crystals that bad or is there still a bug hidden > somewhere? Maybe an option to set r4k_offset to a user supplied > value might help? ... The crystals may well be off from exactly 100 MHZ. Since the frequency is high, a small percentage error adds up over a long period. I believe that the crystals for the CPU clock are chosen for stability, not for highly accurate specific frequency (unlike, say, the crystal in a watch). You pretty much have to calibrate the CPU clock using the Dallas calendar clock. The intent in IRIX, although sometimes broken, is to use the Dallas clock to correct drift in the CPU clock, if an external time base (via NTP or the like) is not being used. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 11 14:14:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA810770 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:14:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA3227427 for linux-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA3185627; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA05741; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:12:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from uhland (ralf@uhland.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.63]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05213; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:12:41 +0100 (MET) Received: by uhland (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id XAA01748; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:12:40 +0100 Message-ID: <19980311231239.11868@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:12:39 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: "William J. Earl" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS Update@linus.linux.sgi.com: linux References: <199803111521.HAA27172@linus.linux.sgi.com> <199803111755.JAA14604@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199803111755.JAA14604@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:55:38AM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1768 Lines: 37 On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:55:38AM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > Ralf Baechle writes: > ... > > o The calculated values for r4k_offset are still off by ~480 from the > > theoretical values. That means we're going to loose about 46 s per > > day. Are the crystals that bad or is there still a bug hidden > > somewhere? Maybe an option to set r4k_offset to a user supplied > > value might help? > ... > > The crystals may well be off from exactly 100 MHZ. Since the > frequency is high, a small percentage error adds up over a long > period. I believe that the crystals for the CPU clock are chosen for > stability, not for highly accurate specific frequency (unlike, say, > the crystal in a watch). You pretty much have to calibrate the CPU > clock using the Dallas calendar clock. The intent in IRIX, although > sometimes broken, is to use the Dallas clock to correct drift in the > CPU clock, if an external time base (via NTP or the like) is not > being used. The question is whether the Dallas chip or the i8254 timer has the more accurate clock. A couple of the Dallas chips I've seen are so bad that xntp would not be able to sync via NTP, so the i8454 clock seems to be preferable as the clock source. Another thing is that when using NTP Linux uses the software clock in the kernel and writes that time regularly back into the CMOS. Afaik the limit for synchronisation via xntp / NTP is a failsynchronisation between the two clocks of about 300ppm. The current Linux kernel is at about 500ppm on my Indy and I sometimes see xntpd loosing synchronisation on the Indy. I haven't researched this but I suppose the software PLL in xntpd ``unlocks'' now and then. I wonder how well NTP works over a typical AX.25 link ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 11 14:35:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA818396 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:35:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA3421917 for linux-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA3431096; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA15836; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:33:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA19901; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:33:31 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yCu4M-000V5cC; Wed, 11 Mar 98 22:33 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: CVS Update@linus.linux.sgi.com: linux To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:33:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19980311231239.11868@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Mar 11, 98 11:12:39 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 151 Lines: 5 > I wonder how well NTP works over a typical AX.25 link ... Dreadfully. Its two variable to handle. Over more predictible 9600 links its not too bad From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 11 15:39:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA822745 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:39:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA3435327 for linux-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA3454953; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA15304; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:37:40 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:37:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199803112337.PAA15304@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: "William J. Earl" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS Update@linus.linux.sgi.com: linux In-Reply-To: <19980311231239.11868@uni-koblenz.de> References: <199803111521.HAA27172@linus.linux.sgi.com> <199803111755.JAA14604@fir.engr.sgi.com> <19980311231239.11868@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2249 Lines: 44 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 09:55:38AM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > > Ralf Baechle writes: > > ... > > > o The calculated values for r4k_offset are still off by ~480 from the > > > theoretical values. That means we're going to loose about 46 s per > > > day. Are the crystals that bad or is there still a bug hidden > > > somewhere? Maybe an option to set r4k_offset to a user supplied > > > value might help? > > ... > > > > The crystals may well be off from exactly 100 MHZ. Since the > > frequency is high, a small percentage error adds up over a long > > period. I believe that the crystals for the CPU clock are chosen for > > stability, not for highly accurate specific frequency (unlike, say, > > the crystal in a watch). You pretty much have to calibrate the CPU > > clock using the Dallas calendar clock. The intent in IRIX, although > > sometimes broken, is to use the Dallas clock to correct drift in the > > CPU clock, if an external time base (via NTP or the like) is not > > being used. > > The question is whether the Dallas chip or the i8254 timer has the more > accurate clock. A couple of the Dallas chips I've seen are so bad that > xntp would not be able to sync via NTP, so the i8454 clock seems to be > preferable as the clock source. Another thing is that when using NTP > Linux uses the software clock in the kernel and writes that time regularly > back into the CMOS. Yes, when using NTP, updating the CMOS from the kernel is the right thing to do; IRIX is also supposed to do that, although that is also sometimes broken. > Afaik the limit for synchronisation via xntp / NTP is a failsynchronisation > between the two clocks of about 300ppm. The current Linux kernel is at > about 500ppm on my Indy and I sometimes see xntpd loosing synchronisation > on the Indy. I haven't researched this but I suppose the software PLL in > xntpd ``unlocks'' now and then. ... If the Dallas is drifting much more than a cheap digital watch, it is probably sick, especially if the drift is most pronounced when the system is powered off. I have seen both Indys and PCs with that problem (including my 486 notebook running linux). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 11:39:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA1109792 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA3871283 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3871484 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw ([140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA12651 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (tonywu@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24088 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:35:37 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:35:36 +0800 (CST) From: "Tony C. Wu" X-Sender: tonywu@sparc To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Getting Started ..... NOT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1857 Lines: 54 Hi, After the 101st failure on getting sgi-linux to work on our poor SGI indy, I decided to beg you guys for a clue. I used installer-0.10d and root-be-0.03-cpio. I followed every step listed in the INSTALL that came with installer-0.10d. 1. ./mke2fs /dev/dsk/dks0d2s0 ok 2. ./installer /dev/dsk/dks0d2s0 ok 3. MAKEDEV ok 4. cpio root-be-0.03-cpio ok 5. exit ok 6. ./e2fsck -fy /dev/dsk/dks0d2s0 fixed some errors, ok 7. gzip -d vmlinux-2.1.65.efs.gz /vmlinux ok >> boot vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 failed. I tried every pre-compiled kernel that's in the pub/test dir of ftp.linux.sgi.com pub/test, but all failed. 2.1.65 gave: bus error 2.1.72 gave: blank screen 2.1.72_NOSL: put me in repair fs mode, but i can't change anything. It said it couldn't read superblock on /dev/sdb Here's what hinv says about our indy. ---- HINV ------------------------------------------------------------- Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- Any help is appreciated. Thanks, -- Tony C. Wu System administrator Email: tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw Dept. of Life Sciences Voice: +886-3-574-2772 NTHU, Hsin-Chu, Taiwan Fax: +886-3-571-5934 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 12:50:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA1135934 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:50:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA3879383 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA3829189 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id PAA23785; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: <35084947.20EF836A@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:44:55 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tony C. Wu" CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1601 Lines: 39 Tony C. Wu wrote: > 2.1.72_NOSL: put me in repair fs mode, but i can't change anything. > It said it couldn't read superblock on /dev/sdb Re-read the HOWTO wehere it tells you how to remount / read-write Ive gotten this far as well. I then could ifconfig my ethernet interface and add the necessary routing information to talk to the network, but I couldn't ever actually get it to talk. I could ping myself but nothing else. I assumed this was because I didn't have things like inetd, rc scripts to start things, etc... My next step was to then pull down all of the mips RPMS to the 1st disk running linux, and I was going to then try to mount the first disk after booting Linux off of the second disk - then installing all of the RPM's - but I haven't gotten there yet. It would be REALLY nice, if someone could take their installed system, tar/cpio the whole ball of wax and put it up for download. Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 13:33:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA1141581 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:33:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA2249661 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA823291 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA04550 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:32:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA09293; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:15:47 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yDFLA-000V5iC; Thu, 12 Mar 98 21:16 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT To: tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw (Tony C. Wu) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:16:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Tony C. Wu" at Mar 13, 98 03:35:36 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 284 Lines: 18 > 2.1.72_NOSL: put me in repair fs mode, but i can't change anything. > It said it couldn't read superblock on /dev/sdb Ok. The disk image expects to be /dev/sdb do mount -n -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 / vi /etc/fstab change /dev/sdb to /dev/sdb1 exit Best of luck From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 13:21:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA1147426 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA3877967 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA3930874 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA29821 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA28357; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:20:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:20:28 -0500 (EST) From: Alex deVries To: Eric Kimminau cc: "Tony C. Wu" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT In-Reply-To: <35084947.20EF836A@detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 240 Lines: 10 On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > It would be REALLY nice, if someone could take their installed system, > tar/cpio the whole ball of wax and put it up for download. Uh, I could, but that's about 1GB uncompressed... - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 13:53:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA1148673 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA3922286 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA3929342 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id QAA27074; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3508581C.93348035@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:48:12 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: "Tony C. Wu" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1273 Lines: 39 Alex deVries wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > > It would be REALLY nice, if someone could take their installed system, > > tar/cpio the whole ball of wax and put it up for download. > > Uh, I could, but that's about 1GB uncompressed... > > - Alex Tell me where to come get it :) OK, lets re-define "whole ball of wax" A functional distribution with X, network tools, normally used sys-admin tools, a compiler and the source for the kernel plus a few odds and ends. This should be "do-able" in 2-300MB, which I don't think would be considered excessivly large. Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 12 22:23:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA1170383 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:23:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA4118993 for linux-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA4128234 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA01514 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:19:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (tonywu@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26313; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:22:02 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:22:01 +0800 (CST) From: "Tony C. Wu" X-Sender: tonywu@sparc To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 923 Lines: 36 Ok. done that. I can successfully remount the / rw, but still, wont go any further. I tested fsck manually, no matter what device I specified, it always printed the same error and exited immediately. If I comment fsck part, and boot directly, still wont go. So I think the root-be-0.03-cpio is somehow broken. Can anyone provide another working mini-set of root ? Thanks, -- Tony C. Wu System administrator Email: tonywu@life.nthu.edu.tw Dept. of Life Sciences Voice: +886-3-574-2772 NTHU, Hsin-Chu, Taiwan Fax: +886-3-571-5934 On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > 2.1.72_NOSL: put me in repair fs mode, but i can't change anything. > > It said it couldn't read superblock on /dev/sdb > > Ok. The disk image expects to be /dev/sdb > do > > > mount -n -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 / > > vi /etc/fstab > > change /dev/sdb to /dev/sdb1 > > exit > > > Best of luck > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 18 16:24:16 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA1979497 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:24:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA1094086 for linux-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtfm.engr.sgi.com (rtfm.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA1076682 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tigger@localhost) by rtfm.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA15906 for linux@engr; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:29 -0800 From: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans) Message-Id: <199803190023.QAA15906@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: testing Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 19 Lines: 1 this is a test msg From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 18 16:32:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA1863078 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA1088612 for linux-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtfm.engr.sgi.com (rtfm.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA1093317 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tigger@localhost) by rtfm.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA15986 for linux; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:31:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:31:58 -0800 From: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans) Message-Id: <199803190031.QAA15986@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> To: linux@rtfm.engr.sgi.com Subject: TEST: ne more test (sorry) Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 173 Lines: 8 we're trying to set the linux list up to prevent spamming. please be patient and delete anything prefaced by "TEST:". Thank you, jamie (aka majordomo-owner@engr.sgi.com) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 20 10:41:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA50391 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:41:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA1791659 for linux-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA1704374 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be (hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be [193.190.253.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA16956 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:39:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gatzby@hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be) Received: from localhost (gatzby@localhost) by hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA23141 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:39:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:39:47 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Verhaegen To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: couple of questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 24 Hi, I've been skimming to the archives, but haven't been able to read everything yet, so maybe this has been asked/said... 1. I got an Indy at work (R4600 I believe) about which I'm nagging my boss to install Linux. Is there a list of supported hardware anywhere, because the webpages seem quite out of date... 2. Is it still a netboot manual install, or has there been some development on a redhat-like installation system... Thanks for the info, if you need help with the documentation of your project, I'm willing to help (I've only started programming in C about two weeks ago, so I won't be much help on that terrain, althoug pointers to useful info are always welcome). The info on the webpages seems really outdated... Have fun and keep up the good work, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nick "gatzby" Verhaegen e-mail : gatzby@ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be pgp-key : finger me http://hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~gatzby/ Sysadmin hal.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be, Ulyssis treasurer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 21 22:56:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA123843 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:56:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA2296813 for linux-list; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA2300105 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA16330 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:55:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-12.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.12]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22202 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:55:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA04812; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:54:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19980322075452.09681@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:54:52 +0100 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Cc: lm@who.net Subject: Lmbench results for Linux/MIPS 2.1.90 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 5576 Lines: 98 Hi all, here is another round of lmbench results. Most notably all benchmarks that depend on the overhead of syscall entry have improved remarkably. For comparison I've included some more machines in the table. The machines: indy: Indy R5000SC 180MHz, 512mb l2 cache, 96mb memory. sv002076: Sun Ultra Enterprise E450, 2 x 296MHz Ultra2 CPUs, 1gb memory (two interleaved). dull: Dell Pentium 200 MMX, 32mb, running Redhat's 2.0.27. tbird: SNI RM200, R4600 133MHz, no second level cache, 32mb memory. I'm thinking about not saving the temporary registers on syscall entry; I'm just not shure if this would break the semantics of ptrace(2). Comments? Btw, it's a shame for Sun than we can beat their numbers on so much weaker hardware. Ralf L M B E N C H 1 . 9 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ (Alpha software, do not distribute) Processor, Processes - times in microseconds - smaller is better ---------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz null null open selct sig sig fork exec sh call I/O stat clos inst hndl proc proc proc --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- indy IRIX 6.2 180 2.9 10.0 88 110 2.44K 6.2 36 7.0K 19K 32K sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 196 2.6 4.7 31 34 0.21K 5.6 48 2.2K 12K 23K dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 200 1.1 1.8 29 44 0.08K 2.5 5 0.8K 5K 15K indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 180 4.5 5.4 24 29 0.11K 7.3 19 18.3K 18K 65K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 1.3 2.1 23 29 0.10K 3.6 10 1.7K 18K 60K tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 133 6.4 9.2 42 56 0.19K 11.7 26 2.1K 26K 83K Context switching - times in microseconds - smaller is better ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 2p/0K 2p/16K 2p/64K 8p/16K 8p/64K 16p/16K 16p/64K ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ----- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------- ------- indy IRIX 6.2 13 20 135 94 301 143 482 sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 12 16 14 40 23 48 92 dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 5 52 171 64 244 75 325 indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 1 27 238 322 780 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 2 36 205 55 655 92 717 tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 14 176 506 177 516 178 513 *Local* Communication latencies in microseconds - smaller is better ------------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 2p/0K Pipe AF UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ TCP ctxsw UNIX UDP TCP conn --------- ------------- ----- ----- ---- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---- indy IRIX 6.2 13 62 126 356 718 361 689 1321 sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 12 48 70 130 118 840 dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 5 19 36 89 212 139 289 1276 indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 1 48 103 105 258 165 412 597 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 2 15 31 91 251 170 409 581 tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 14 75 168 351 795 575 1120 1549 File & VM system latencies in microseconds - smaller is better -------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 0K File 10K File Mmap Prot Page Create Delete Create Delete Latency Fault Fault --------- ------------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------- ----- ----- indy IRIX 6.2 450 813 1694 2325 3317 23.0K sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 2083 826 2777 3030 4066 13 8.2K dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 59 4 106 9 7582 2 0.1K indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 112 28 12222 16 0.3K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 11000 2 0.3K tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 143 34 15026 0 0.3K *Local* Communication bandwidths in MB/s - bigger is better ----------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe AF TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem UNIX reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- indy IRIX 6.2 33 39 26 23 57 26 54 57 43 sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 99 134 95 146 156 296 139 157 208 dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 53 29 23 41 121 49 51 123 88 indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 57 18 7 28 60 0 0 0 0 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 65 26 15 27 60 0 0 0 0 tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 22 16 4 25 77 38 74 77 56 Memory latencies in nanoseconds - smaller is better (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) --------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- ------- indy IRIX 6.2 180 11 197 485 sv002076 SunOS 5.5.1 196 6 33 248 dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 200 10 88 146 indy.wald Linux 2.1.73 180 10 250 480 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 10 190 480 tbird.wal Linux 2.1.56 133 15 274 281 No L2 cache? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 21 23:13:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA123975 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA2297664 for linux-list; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtfm.engr.sgi.com (rtfm.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA1771895 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tigger@localhost) by rtfm.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA05151 for linux; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:15 -0800 From: tigger@rtfm.engr.sgi.com (Jamie Heller-Evans) Message-Id: <199803220713.XAA05151@rtfm.engr.sgi.com> Subject: TEST: please ignore To: linux@rtfm.engr.sgi.com Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 145 Lines: 6 This is a test... My Apologies for the intrusion. Testing new majordomo software in hopes of eliminating SPAM being sent to this list. jamie From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 22 21:02:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA34045 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:02:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA2585681 for linux-list; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA2530338 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from MajorD.xtra.co.nz (terminator.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA19551 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:01:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ratfink@xtra.co.nz) Received: from xtra.co.nz (xtra185187.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.187]) by MajorD.xtra.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA27079 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:01:52 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <3515ECBF.B46B0714@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:01:51 +1200 From: Brendan Black Organization: Acess Denied... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux SGI Subject: experiences... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4157 Lines: 104 I've been watching the list for a while now, originally with the intention of trying out LinuxSGI on a Challenge S, well there ain't one spare anymore, but there is this indy :) to cut a long story short, I grabbed the installer from linus, went through the instructions, and tried various different kernels with the following results: (you'll have to excuse any typing mistakes, I handwrote the boot messages) 2.1.55 (vmlinux-970916-efs.gz) PROMLIB: SGI ARCS firmware Version 1 Revision 10 PROMLIB: Total free ram 64622592 bytes (63108K, 61MB) ARCH: SGI-IP22 CPU: MIPS-R4400 FPU ICACHE DCACHE SCACHE Loading R4000 MMU routines CPU revision is: 00000450 Primary ICACHE 16K (linesize 16 bytes) Primary DCACHE 16K (linesize 16 bytes) Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 128 MC: SGI memory controller Revision 3 calculating r4koff... 000bcf0c(773900) GFX INIT: SHMIQ setup usemaclone misc device registered (minor: 151) usema device registered (major 86) Video screen size is 00004c88 at 883a5b90 Console: 16 point font, 992 scans Console: colour NEWPORT 158x62, 1 virtual console (max 63) Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 77.21 BogoMIPS Memory: 60544k/196180k available (1020k kernel code, 2768k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 for Linux 2.1 NET3: Unix Domain sockets 0.16 for Linux NET3.038. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.037 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP Checking for 'wait' instruction.. unavailable Linux version 2.1.55 (shaver@neon.ingenia.ca) (gcc version 2.7.2) #121 Tue Sep 16 16:30:52 EDT 1997 POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX starting kswapd v 1.23 SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00 tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq=21) is a Zilog8530 tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq=21) is a Zilog8530 WD93: Driver version 1.25 complied on Sep 13 1997 at 19:13:34 debug_flags=0x00 wd33c93-0: chip=WD33c93B/13 no_sync=0xff no_dma=0scsi0 : SGI WD93 scsi : 1 host sending SDTR it stops at this point and this happens no matter what options I give the kernel (root=/dev/sd??) 2.1.67 (from linus) stops at same point (has a few different devices, but essentially the same) 2.1.72 (from linus) gives me a blank screen (no messages whatsoever :() aside from the hardware messages above, heres an hinv: penguin 3% hinv Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 150 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0 CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 5.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected I had to install Irix 5.3 myself on the machine, as someone had completely screwed the volume header. The disk is id=2, so irix sits on an efs partition on /dev/dsk/s0d2s0, swap on /dev/dsk/s0d2s1, with my e2fs partition on /dev/dsk/s0d2s2, which all installed without a hitch, once I had learned the vagaries of fx first and the installer second. I may have a hardware problem though, on first turning the machine on, it tries accessing scsi device (0,1,0) on the diagnostics, which as far as I can tell doesn't exist, and then fails diagnostics, then if you hit start system, it boots off (0,2,0) >:-| I am intending on documenting everything I have to do to get this machine working, hopefully with a full install, and submit this to the project, so - any ideas on the above lockup/errors ?? cheers -- Brendan Black - Network Engineer, Telecom Internet Services email: ratfink@xtra.co.nz (personal) phone: +-649 3555238 mob: +-6425 2752667 "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." -- Matt Welsh From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 22 21:16:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA34664 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:16:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA2587975 for linux-list; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id VAA2528440 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id AAA25984; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:15:43 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA26339; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:15:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3515EEF2.7A9D75A8@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:11:14 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brendan Black CC: Linux SGI Subject: Re: experiences... References: <3515ECBF.B46B0714@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2329 Lines: 52 Brendan Black wrote: > The disk is id=2, so irix sits on an efs partition on /dev/dsk/s0d2s0, > swap on /dev/dsk/s0d2s1, with my e2fs partition on /dev/dsk/s0d2s2, > which all installed without a hitch, once I had learned the vagaries of > fx first and the installer second. I may have a hardware problem though, > on first turning the machine on, it tries accessing scsi device (0,1,0) > on the diagnostics, which as far as I can tell doesn't exist, and then > fails diagnostics, then if you hit start system, it boots off (0,2,0) > >:-| > > I am intending on documenting everything I have to do to get this > machine working, hopefully with a full install, and submit this to the > project, so - any ideas on the above lockup/errors ?? > > cheers There is a SCSI ID jumper on the back of the disk (I believe) - binary code (as ar emost SCSI devices). You should be able to move the jumpte but you will have to boot miniroot, check your nvram settings to reflect booting off of the correct drive and then probably modify /etc/fstab so that it mounts the right things (all of this for IRIX). I don't know about anyone else, but the only way I could get things working at all was to have Linux on a completely seperate disk from my IRIX drive. YMMV. I still haven't gotten past booting with / mounted read only and then re-mounting it read/write. The current basic root disk is missing rc scripts and most of the networking stuff so getting it on the net wasn't possible. Lots of people offered me places to go and grab a full copy of their installed systems to yank down but Ive been traveling too much lately to get to it. Maybe this week... Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 23 18:38:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA713429 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:38:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA2972575 for linux-list; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA2959053 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA26399 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:37:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-20.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.20]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14350 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:37:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA09670; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:51:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19980323225125.14671@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:51:25 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: More fixes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 522 Lines: 11 I fixed the old reboot problem. The cause were three lines of code that should have been removed ages ago. Now the second level cache is being disabled on reboot as it is supposed to. Furthermore as long as we don't have suitable floating point support (Grrr... Motorola spread their stuff for the 68k under a BSDish license ...) I changed the kernel to try to deal with that problem a little bit more gentle by setting the ``Flush To Zero'' bit in $fcr31 on unimplemented exceptions. IEEE754 at it's best :-( Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 08:04:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA799469 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:04:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA3088856 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA3119765 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA16269 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:03:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26766; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:03:13 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA27600; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19980324170310.02192@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:03:10 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: More fixes References: <19980323225125.14671@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:09:37PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 474 Lines: 14 On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:09:37PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > I fixed the old reboot problem. The cause were three lines of code > > that should have been removed ages ago. Now the second level cache > > is being disabled on reboot as it is supposed to. > > Any fixes for the R4000SC yet? Already in. If it still isn't working, please tell me. Maybe someone can borrow me a R4000SC / R4400SC module ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 08:14:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA798906 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:14:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA2384050 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA3153755 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA20296 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27456 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:13:54 +0100 (MET) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA28729; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:13:51 +0100 Message-ID: <19980324171351.40801@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:13:51 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: More fixes References: <19980323225125.14671@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 399 Lines: 8 Forgot to mention that I fixed the reported reboot problems. On reboot / halt the machine now ends in the firmware and does the right thing. We still don't powerdown the machine on halt and it would be nice to support the power button on the front panel, and btw we could implement uadmin(2) for the IRIX compat shit. Will have to read a bit in /unix about how to do that or so, grmpf... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 10:25:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA861420 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA3172275 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA3193961 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA12782 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29003 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:18:43 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980325021954.0073abc4@life.nthu.edu.tw> X-Sender: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:19:54 +0800 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Getting Started ..... NOT In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 592 Lines: 11 At 01:22 PM 1998/3/13 +0800, you wrote: >Ok. done that. I can successfully remount the / rw, but still, wont go any >further. I tested fsck manually, no matter what device I specified, it >always printed the same error and exited immediately. If I comment fsck >part, and boot directly, still wont go. So I think the root-be-0.03-cpio >is somehow broken. Can anyone provide another working mini-set of root ? Well, is there any new root-be-*-cpio currently? -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw (140.114.98.61) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 10:44:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA860057 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:44:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA3214492 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA3218587 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA108458 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199803241843.KAA108458@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Linux list spam and bounces To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:15 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 987 Lines: 31 SGI/Linux subscribers, In the past few weeks we've experienced some spam on the list as a result we've turned on restricted posting which allows only members of the list to post. The problem with this solution is that it may inconvenience some people posting from different locations. I apologize for this inconveniece. The subscription and unsubscription is open so feel free to update your addresses. Tip: you should be subscribing with a general domain rather than a specific one: Good: subscribe linux myname@engr.sgi.com Bad: subscribe linux myname@myhost.engr.sgi.com The reason is that majordomo (latest version with 'mungedomain') will consider the first a general form of the second but NOT vice versa. if you're subscribed as name@X.Y.Z and you mail as (just a different host): name@W.Y.Z You're message will bounce with "not a member of the list". In my next posting I will send one digest of all the bounced messages in the past few days. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 11:03:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA814592 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:03:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA3216735 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3236060 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA108910 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199803241902.LAA108910@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Digest of last week's bounces To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:02:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 13194 Lines: 323 A digest of recent bounces from earliest to latest [22-24 March]. Overview: Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS Subject: Re: Lmbench results for Linux/MIPS 2.1.90 Subject: Another 7kb Subject: The current trick Subject: Re: English Subject: Bus errors on the Indy Subject: Re: More fixes Summary of the important points: Ralf improved the performance of SGI/Linux significantly merged some latest Linux 2.1.90 sources and fixed several bugs. From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980322202140.44155@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:21:40 +0100 To: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS References: <19980322172150.64018@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980322172150.64018@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 05:21:50PM +0100 > irgendwie mag fnet.fr die zugegeben durch unser Mailsystem verunstaltete > (aber IHMO gueltige) From Adresse nicht. Da Anwort/Frage primaer dich > betreffen, schick ich sie nur an dich. I don't have the holy RFC at hand but if I remember it right unbalanced violate the spec. Anyway, if you want to very if your mail is RFC down to the letter, try mailing Ralph Babel. If you mail bounces, it isn't ;-) > On Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 11:48:43PM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > I've upgraded the MIPS port to 2.1.89. Aside of the still unresolved > > problem in exit_mm() which I've reported some hours ago is seems to be > > working on Indys. Haven't yet tested the rest of my hardware collection. > > Is the exit_mm() problem still unresolved ? I solved it. There is a couple of superfluous fput calls in fs/binfmt_elf.c Will commit the fix later today along with other bug fixes and performance improvments. Still haven't verified if this is a bug in our private version or in Linus' version as well. The bad new is that I still haven't been able to track down the case of memory corruption that is plaguing the Indy. > > I'm particularly interested in reports about the NCR53C9x driver on > > Olivetti M700 / Magnum 4000. > > works so far. But I can't say much, because fsck bombs out due to the > exit_mm() problem. But detection of the scsi devices and mounting the root > filesystem works. Ok. The Indy driver also survived the switch to the new SCSI midlevel code, so everything went alot smother than initially reading the SCSI code made me believe. Ralf Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:30:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199803230530.VAA12819@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, lm@who.net Subject: Re: Lmbench results for Linux/MIPS 2.1.90 In-Reply-To: <19980322075452.09681@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980322075452.09681@uni-koblenz.de> ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > Hi all, > > here is another round of lmbench results. Most notably all benchmarks > that depend on the overhead of syscall entry have improved remarkably. > For comparison I've included some more machines in the table. > > The machines: > > indy: Indy R5000SC 180MHz, 512mb l2 cache, 96mb memory. > sv002076: Sun Ultra Enterprise E450, 2 x 296MHz Ultra2 CPUs, > 1gb memory (two interleaved). > dull: Dell Pentium 200 MMX, 32mb, running Redhat's 2.0.27. > tbird: SNI RM200, R4600 133MHz, no second level cache, 32mb memory. > > I'm thinking about not saving the temporary registers on syscall entry; > I'm just not shure if this would break the semantics of ptrace(2). ... UMIPS-BSD (4.3 BSD on the MIPS M/1000) did not save the temporary registers on syscall(). It did, of course, save them on interrupts, so preemption left the registers valid. I don't see why saving the registers on syscall should affect ptrace(), since the ptrace() caller is acting on another process, which will have saved all its registers if preempted. That change ought to let the R5000 beat the Pentium, despite the Indy's miserable memory latency. >From owner-linux@cthulhu Sun Mar 22 21:55:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA36672 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: owner-linux@cthulhu Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA2562878; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:55:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:55:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803230555.VAA2562878@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> To: owner-linux@cthulhu Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [ralf@uni-koblenz.de] Status: RO From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980323065516.23188@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:55:16 +0100 To: "William J. Earl" Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, lm@who.net Subject: Re: Lmbench results for Linux/MIPS 2.1.90 References: <19980322075452.09681@uni-koblenz.de> <199803230530.VAA12819@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803230530.VAA12819@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:30:05PM -0800 On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:30:05PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > I'm thinking about not saving the temporary registers on syscall entry; > > I'm just not shure if this would break the semantics of ptrace(2). > ... > > UMIPS-BSD (4.3 BSD on the MIPS M/1000) did not save the temporary > registers on syscall(). It did, of course, save them on interrupts, > so preemption left the registers valid. I don't see why saving the > registers on syscall should affect ptrace(), since the ptrace() > caller is acting on another process, which will have saved all its > registers if preempted. That change ought to let the R5000 beat > the Pentium, despite the Indy's miserable memory latency. Yeah, let's make some nice benchmarks that are going to fry the borg :-) Given that we have that many registers I think we might reach the magic 1.0 microseconds. It's just 56 cycles we need to get from somewhere ... I was thinking about ptrace(2) because on Linux it has an option (PF_TRACESYS) where the tracee is only stopped on syscalls. Anyway, the lost registers are just temporary registers, so away with 'em ... Ralf >From owner-linux Sun Mar 22 22:04:15 1998 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980323070406.41524@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:04:06 +0100 To: linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Another 7kb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Just shrunk the kernel by another 7kb. Instead of the already nice trick for computing current from the stack pointer, I'm now using the global pointer $28 to store it. Since we don't do global pointer optimization we get a register to store current for free. Saves another over 7kb and some cycles on context switch and syscalls. En passer I fixed a couple of bugs in the R3000 code. Explanation for IRIX people: current is the pointer to the current task, the most accessed variable in the entire kernel. Linux stores the process structure at the lower end of a 8kb pages, the stack at the upper end so current can be computed from $sp without doing loads as $sp & ~0x1fff. Ralf >From owner-linux Sun Mar 22 22:41:17 1998 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980323074108.36199@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:41:08 +0100 To: linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: The current trick Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e The last 2.1.90 kernel: Simple syscall: 1.2611 microseconds Simple read: 2.1703 microseconds Simple write: 1.9885 microseconds Simple stat: 23.7789 microseconds Simple fstat: 3.6228 microseconds With the current trick: Simple syscall: 1.1700 microseconds Simple read: 1.9605 microseconds Simple write: 1.8097 microseconds Simple stat: 15.6738 microseconds Simple fstat: 3.9914 microseconds We're getting closer, 31 cycles to fry. Ralf From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980323085804.58255@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:04 +0100 To: Dave Wreski Cc: linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: English References: <19980322200046.50788@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Dave Wreski on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 01:11:30AM -0500 (Some of SGI's people may want to comment this, so I cc this to SGI's Linux mailing list.) On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 01:11:30AM -0500, Dave Wreski wrote: > Ralf, you were very kind in answering a few questions I had in the past about > Linux and SGI, and I hoped I could ask one more, now that I understand there > is a web site at SGI for Linux. Yeah, check out http://www.linux.sgi.com. > I understand that Sun feels Linux is a threat to its software division, and > according to David Miller at last year's Atlanta show, it could cause serious > financial problems for their software division. I admit that Linux has heavy impact into some companies markets. The Sparc people have been doing a pretty nice job for the more modern Sparcs. In fact it's just the pricetag on the bigger machines that so far prevented Linux to be ported to Sun's biggest hardware. One of the problems Sun has is that their hardware is considered to be very reliable but Solaris unlike Linux isn't. I know of significant Sun installations which have been converted to Sun hardware running Linux. The number of of people which intend to do the same with their SGI's is lower, partially caused by the fact that Linux/SGI is not yet ready for prime time, partially due to technical attributes like XFS. > I was really just wondering why SGI would go so far as to even donate hardware > to some of the developers, and even sponsor David Miller to port Linux to > their platform. SGI's market is different than Sun's. SGI's products are far more being marketed by technical attributes than Sun's which gives them a far bigger ``safety distance'' towards Linux than Sun has. SGI's engineers are very openminded to Linux and now and then manage to convice their managment to make steps towards Linux and Free Software in general. Finally SGI recognices that Linux has properties that IRIX doesn't have and probably won't every have. On the opposite side the way the Sun employees I talked to are talking about Linux. They're talking about Linux like the devil himself about holy water. It almost seems like Sun is spreading an almost irrational fear of Linux under their employees. > Do you think they feel the way Netscape now does? Maybe > something like having their engineers produce really high-end hardware, and > let the Linux engineers produce really high end software for it? The concept fails in areas where the demand is low, therefore the probability to find the highly skilled volunteers. Web browsers are popular and every computer system needs an OS, most of them a web browser, that's why Linux is a success and why I think Netscape's ``going public'' will be a success as well. Free Software finds it's limits where the number of people that could push the development is low and the cost for them invest is high. Guess why there are no Linux port to top of the line iron like Sun E1000 or Origin 2000. Ralf From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Message-ID: <19980323222727.52929@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:27:27 +0100 To: linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: Bus errors on the Indy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e The bus error messages that people have been posting to the list were quite useless as a debugging aid. The problem is that the kernel reenables interrupts in the bus error handler. The Indy however seems to post the buserror both as dbe/ibe exception and via the interrupt mechanism. I wonder what the rationale behind this behaviour is. Anyway, as result we catch the bus error interrupt at the point where the dbe/ibe handler reenable interupts. Means results of c0_epc printed to the screen are pretty bogus. I fixed that and therefore hope we'll rsn be able to get rid of the problem. Ralf >From owner-linux Tue Mar 24 07:07:27 1998 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:09:37 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: More fixes In-Reply-To: <19980323225125.14671@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I fixed the old reboot problem. The cause were three lines of code > that should have been removed ages ago. Now the second level cache > is being disabled on reboot as it is supposed to. Any fixes for the R4000SC yet? - Ulf -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 24 19:28:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA1425221 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:28:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA3350615 for linux-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA3403015 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA01069 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:27:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08802 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:27:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA13169; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:27:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19980325042742.20917@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:27:42 +0100 To: David A Willmore Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS References: <19980317234843.10411@uni-koblenz.de> <9803242106.ZM28226@whelk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <9803242106.ZM28226@whelk>; from David A Willmore on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:06:06PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1422 Lines: 29 On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:06:06PM -0600, David A Willmore wrote: > > I've upgraded the MIPS port to 2.1.89. Aside of the still unresolved > > problem in exit_mm() which I've reported some hours ago is seems to be > > working on Indys. Haven't yet tested the rest of my hardware collection. > > > > I'm particularly interested in reports about the NCR53C9x driver on > > Olivetti M700 / Magnum 4000. > > Hey! :) I've got a 53c90 card for the ISA bus that I would like to use on a > x86 machine. Any idea how easy it would be to modify this driver to work with > a very generic card like that? Funny that I didn't find any of this code in > the normal 2.1.90. I take it your code isn't merged in? Actually adding the necessary changes shouldn't be difficult. Check out the files drivers/scsi/{sparc,jazz}esp.[ch] in one of the snapshots on ftp.linux.sgi.com. You'll have to provide a similar machine / bus specific backend like for these two architectures. Actually an ISA specific backend should be easier to implement than these two. You're right, things have not been merged back but I intend to do this in the near future. I just wanted to do some bug bashing in the MIPS kernel. Things are looking _better_ than ever now, so the time his near. I just hope penguin central doesn't release 2.2.0 before I do my mergeback ... (The world will be safe from me for today, I'm going to the CeBIT ...) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 25 22:30:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA1817703 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:30:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA3957116 for linux-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA3940642 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA76047840 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id BAA29479; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:23:26 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA06117; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:23:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3519F34D.DBC86E0C@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:18:54 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com, mdug@sppc.org Subject: Linux for Nintendo 64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 863 Lines: 24 I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the article. http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ And something else I just stumbled upon: http://webwatcher.org/ -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 25 23:36:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA1812460 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA3970590 for linux-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA3921473 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA73703600 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.satama.com (mail.satama.com [193.66.249.226]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA05968 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (santtu@satama.com) Received: from server.satama.com (server.satama.com [193.66.249.3]) by mail1.satama.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/EPIPE-1.7) with ESMTP id JAA00899 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:36:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (santtu@localhost) by server.satama.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/EPIPE-1.5) with SMTP id JAA29324 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:35:54 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:35:54 +0200 (EET) From: Santeri Paavolainen To: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 In-Reply-To: <3519F34D.DBC86E0C@detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 617 Lines: 20 On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > article. > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ I'd guess that the iX magazine hits the newsstands in Germany on 1st of April.. Here's a quote from the text which should alert any reader: "According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian developers, are going to make the software available under the GPL, so it can be used free of charge." The article was very entertaining, though :-) -- santtu@iki.fi I have become death, destroyer of the worlds. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 06:31:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA1829555 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:31:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA4066059 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA4023646 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA57656670 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id JAA17499; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:30:47 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA06302; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:30:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351A658D.FE3A6AB0@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:21 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Santeri Paavolainen CC: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1434 Lines: 42 Santeri Paavolainen wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > > article. > > > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > > I'd guess that the iX magazine hits the newsstands in Germany on 1st of > April.. > > Here's a quote from the text which should alert any reader: > > "According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian developers, > are going to make the software available under the GPL, so it can be > used free of charge." > > The article was very entertaining, though :-) > > -- > santtu@iki.fi I have become death, destroyer of the worlds. Agreed and implied - Thats why I said to be sure and look at the date. Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 06:56:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA1638273 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:56:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA4067032 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA3782858 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA02277 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:55:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Olivier.Galibert@loria.fr) Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id PAA11418 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:55:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from galibert@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id PAA13523; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:59 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980326155458.34557@loria.fr> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:58 +0100 From: Olivier Galibert To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Boot Mail-Followup-To: linux@engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88.14i Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 935 Lines: 24 Within a timeline of around one month, I'll probably be able to install a linux on an external drive on an indy I use. I won't have the possibility to boot through bootp/tfpd. I use irix 6.2 (i.e. xfs). So the first thing I'll have to do, it seems, is either: - give the kernel the possibility to boot on one disk and find its files on another, and then put the linux kernel on the xfs root filesystem. - find a way to boot on an ext2fs partition The nicest way would be the second one, of course. I'm ready to try and code for that but I'd like to know: - if the current kernel would be able to handle that - if someone has tools format a disk in ext2fs under irix and transfer files on it - if someone has an idea on how to have the prom boot on an ext2fs filesystem I don't consider reprogramming the prom a viable option. Any reading recommendation for the meantime is welcome too :-) OG. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 10:24:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA1787130 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:24:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA4139883 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA4114858 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA63384397 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA20473 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:21:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.16]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00664 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:21:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA02773; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:20:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19980326192052.46479@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:20:52 +0100 To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Cc: Santeri Paavolainen , linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 References: <351A658D.FE3A6AB0@detroit.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <351A658D.FE3A6AB0@detroit.sgi.com>; from Eric Kimminau on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:26:21AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1103 Lines: 32 On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:26:21AM -0500, Eric Kimminau wrote: > Santeri Paavolainen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > > > article. > > > > > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > > > > I'd guess that the iX magazine hits the newsstands in Germany on 1st of > > April.. > > > > Here's a quote from the text which should alert any reader: > > > > "According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian developers, > > are going to make the software available under the GPL, so it can be > > used free of charge." > > > > The article was very entertaining, though :-) > > > > -- > > santtu@iki.fi I have become death, destroyer of the worlds. > > Agreed and implied - Thats why I said to be sure and look at the date. Sigh... Quite a lot of people apparently don't know the special meaning of the 1st of April and mailed me about Linux for Nitendo. Some of them became very agressive and insulting when I told them the article'd be just hoax ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 14:03:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA1964400 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:03:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA4248836 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA4197813 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA68846049 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA21160 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:02:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.122.140]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yIKhx-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:01:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:05:11 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 In-Reply-To: <19980326192052.46479@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1276 Lines: 39 On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:26:21AM -0500, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > Santeri Paavolainen wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > > > > article. > > > > > > > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > > > > > > I'd guess that the iX magazine hits the newsstands in Germany on 1st of > > > April.. > > > > > > Here's a quote from the text which should alert any reader: > > > > > > "According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian developers, > > > are going to make the software available under the GPL, so it can be > > > used free of charge." > > > > > > The article was very entertaining, though :-) > > > > > > -- > > > santtu@iki.fi I have become death, destroyer of the worlds. > > > > Agreed and implied - Thats why I said to be sure and look at the date. > > Sigh... Quite a lot of people apparently don't know the special meaning > of the 1st of April and mailed me about Linux for Nitendo. Some of them > became very agressive and insulting when I told them the article'd be > just hoax ... > > Ralf When did the 25th or March become the 1st of April? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 15:07:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA1967149 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:07:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA4249180 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA4287093 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA16539 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:06:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:06:23 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0yILiy-002OoxC; Fri, 27 Mar 98 00:06 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02028; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327000426.03461@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:04:26 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, David A Willmore Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS References: <19980317234843.10411@uni-koblenz.de> <9803242106.ZM28226@whelk> <19980325042742.20917@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <19980325042742.20917@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 04:27:42AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1288 Lines: 24 On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 04:27:42AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:06:06PM -0600, David A Willmore wrote: > > Hey! :) I've got a 53c90 card for the ISA bus that I would like to use on a > > x86 machine. Any idea how easy it would be to modify this driver to work with > > a very generic card like that? Funny that I didn't find any of this code in > > the normal 2.1.90. I take it your code isn't merged in? > > Actually adding the necessary changes shouldn't be difficult. Check out > the files drivers/scsi/{sparc,jazz}esp.[ch] in one of the snapshots on > ftp.linux.sgi.com. You'll have to provide a similar machine / bus specific > backend like for these two architectures. Actually an ISA specific backend > should be easier to implement than these two. depends on the DMA engine used on the board. When the card uses the normal PC DMA controller it will be dead slow and a horror to implement (welcome to world of 64K segments). If the board has it's own DMA engine, you need documentation for it. And without DMA you will need a new driver. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 15:14:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA1966710 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:14:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA4243488 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA4155246 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA77764341 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id SAA12479; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:13:33 -0500 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA07510; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:13:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351AE010.8C6359F2@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:09:04 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulf Carlsson CC: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2305 Lines: 68 Ulf. Re-read my original message: > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of > the article. > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ "Note the date of the article" I apologize if you got suckered. Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:26:21AM -0500, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > > > Santeri Paavolainen wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > > > > > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > > > > > article. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > > > > > > > > I'd guess that the iX magazine hits the newsstands in Germany on 1st of > > > > April.. > > > > > > > > Here's a quote from the text which should alert any reader: > > > > > > > > "According to their speaker, Luciano Aprilia, the Italian developers, > > > > are going to make the software available under the GPL, so it can be > > > > used free of charge." > > > > > > > > The article was very entertaining, though :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > santtu@iki.fi I have become death, destroyer of the worlds. > > > > > > Agreed and implied - Thats why I said to be sure and look at the date. > > > > Sigh... Quite a lot of people apparently don't know the special meaning > > of the 1st of April and mailed me about Linux for Nitendo. Some of them > > became very agressive and insulting when I told them the article'd be > > just hoax ... > > > > Ralf > > When did the 25th or March become the 1st of April? > > - Ulf -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 15:40:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA1971429 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:40:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA4269027 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA4251108 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA29140 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:38:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA07642; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:38:29 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yIMD7-000aNgC; Thu, 26 Mar 98 23:37 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:37:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, willmore@cig.mot.com In-Reply-To: <19980327000426.03461@alpha.franken.de> from "Thomas Bogendoerfer" at Mar 27, 98 00:04:26 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 418 Lines: 9 > PC DMA controller it will be dead slow and a horror to implement (welcome > to world of 64K segments). If the board has it's own DMA engine, you need > documentation for it. And without DMA you will need a new driver. Can anyone working on generic 53c9x support also talk to the Linux mac folks who are also working on this right now. Incidentally we'll also be wanting to abuse the mips sonic driver soon too 8) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 15:50:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA1588340 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:50:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA4310951 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA4271968 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA03233 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:49:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:49:29 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0yIMOh-002OoOC; Fri, 27 Mar 98 00:49 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03223; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:47:57 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327004757.19715@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:47:57 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Alan Cox Cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, willmore@cig.mot.com Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS References: <19980327000426.03461@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Cox on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 11:37:25PM +0000 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1073 Lines: 25 On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 11:37:25PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > PC DMA controller it will be dead slow and a horror to implement (welcome > > to world of 64K segments). If the board has it's own DMA engine, you need > > documentation for it. And without DMA you will need a new driver. > > Can anyone working on generic 53c9x support also talk to the Linux mac folks > who are also working on this right now. the 53c9x mips support is a "port" of the sparc esp driver, which I did based on work from the m68k people (fastlane, blizzard, etc.). And I also verified that the changed esp still runs on a Sparc (at least on my SS2). > Incidentally we'll also be wanting > to abuse the mips sonic driver soon too 8) So I should put fixing it higher on my todo list:-) ? It still has problems with real network traffic. I know the reason, but didn't have time to fix it, yet. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 16:10:17 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA1968324 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:10:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA4288357 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA4276712 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA10452 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:09:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA08163; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:09:10 GMT Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yIMgk-000aNgC; Fri, 27 Mar 98 00:08 GMT Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: MIPS 2.1.89 now in CVS To: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:08:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, willmore@cig.mot.com In-Reply-To: <19980327004757.19715@alpha.franken.de> from "Thomas Bogendoerfer" at Mar 27, 98 00:47:57 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 542 Lines: 13 > the 53c9x mips support is a "port" of the sparc esp driver, which I did > based on work from the m68k people (fastlane, blizzard, etc.). And I also > verified that the changed esp still runs on a Sparc (at least on my SS2). Thats the same path the Mac people are taking > So I should put fixing it higher on my todo list:-) ? It still has problems > with real network traffic. I know the reason, but didn't have time to fix > it, yet. Not instantly but the later macs use the sonic (the nubus plugin cards are all NE2000's in disguise) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 18:24:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA2067719 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:24:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA2481750 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA4285008 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA75923508 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA22304 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:23:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-09.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.9]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04160 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:22:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03675; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327032232.53573@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:22:32 +0100 To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 References: <19980326192052.46479@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 11:05:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 483 Lines: 13 On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > Sigh... Quite a lot of people apparently don't know the special meaning > > of the 1st of April and mailed me about Linux for Nitendo. Some of them > > became very agressive and insulting when I told them the article'd be > > just hoax ... > > When did the 25th or March become the 1st of April? Since when was ``Luciano Apriliani'' in an article published in the April issue not a sufficient hint ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 18:42:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA2076719 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:42:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA4311525 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dist.engr.sgi.com (dist.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.118]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA4347030 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by dist.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA59712550 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (ppp-dialup13.axess.net [205.247.138.113]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA27059 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:41:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (delznic@acm.org) Received: from localhost (delznic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA20017; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:41:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: delznic owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:41:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas F. Elznic" X-Sender: delznic@localhost Reply-To: delznic@acm.org To: Eric Kimminau cc: linux@dist.engr.sgi.com, mdug@sppc.org Subject: Re: Linux for Nintendo 64 In-Reply-To: <3519F34D.DBC86E0C@detroit.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 445 Lines: 18 On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Eric Kimminau wrote: > I thought some of you might find this interesting. Note the date of the > article. > > http://www.ix.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/ > > This has already been discussed on this list. I think if you "notice" the date the article becomes a little bit less interesting... -- Douglas F. Elznic delznic@acm.org "If they give you lined paper, write the other way." Freedom through Electronic Resistance From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 21:16:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA2022530 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:16:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA4382645 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA4380169 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA02269 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:15:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10347 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:15:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA04320; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:15:13 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327061512.43491@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:15:12 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Banzai ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4665 Lines: 78 Ok, somebody sent me congratulations when I presented 1.3us per syscall. Thought that was provoking :-) So now we're at 861ns. The tricks was essentially to take out the syscall processing from the general exception processing such that we don't need to save / restore the temp / hi / lo registers. L M B E N C H 1 . 9 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ (Alpha software, do not distribute) Processor, Processes - times in microseconds - smaller is better ---------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz null null open selct sig sig fork exec sh call I/O stat clos inst hndl proc proc proc --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 200 1.1 1.8 29 44 0.08K 2.5 5 0.8K 5K 15K indy IRIX 6.2 180 2.9 10.0 88 110 2.44K 6.2 36 7.0K 19K 32K E450 SunOS 5.5.1 296 2.6 4.7 31 34 0.21K 5.6 48 2.2K 12K 23K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 1.3 2.1 23 29 0.10K 3.6 10 1.7K 18K 60K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 0.9 1.7 23 26 0.10K 3.2 12 1.8K 18K 60K Context switching - times in microseconds - smaller is better ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 2p/0K 2p/16K 2p/64K 8p/16K 8p/64K 16p/16K 16p/64K ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ----- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------- ------- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 5 52 171 64 244 75 325 indy IRIX 6.2 13 20 135 94 301 143 482 E450 SunOS 5.5.1 12 16 14 40 23 48 92 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 2 36 205 55 655 92 717 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 3 36 214 155 414 155 789 *Local* Communication latencies in microseconds - smaller is better ------------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 2p/0K Pipe AF UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ TCP ctxsw UNIX UDP TCP conn --------- ------------- ----- ----- ---- ----- ----- ----- ----- ---- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 5 19 36 89 212 139 289 1276 indy IRIX 6.2 13 62 126 356 718 361 689 1321 E450 SunOS 5.5.1 12 48 70 130 118 840 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 2 15 31 91 251 170 409 581 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 3 13 31 78 234 165 393 597 File & VM system latencies in microseconds - smaller is better -------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS 0K File 10K File Mmap Prot Page Create Delete Create Delete Latency Fault Fault --------- ------------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------- ----- ----- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 59 4 106 9 7582 2 0.1K indy IRIX 6.2 450 813 1694 2325 3317 23.0K E450 SunOS 5.5.1 2083 826 2777 3030 4066 13 8.2K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 11000 2 0.3K indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 58 6 107 12 12000 0 0.3K *Local* Communication bandwidths in MB/s - bigger is better ----------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe AF TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem UNIX reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 53 29 23 41 121 49 51 123 88 indy IRIX 6.2 33 39 26 23 57 26 54 57 43 E450 SunOS 5.5.1 99 134 95 146 156 296 139 157 208 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 65 26 15 27 60 0 0 0 0 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 55 24 13 27 60 26 56 60 42 Memory latencies in nanoseconds - smaller is better (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) --------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- ------- dull.coba Linux 2.0.27 200 10 88 146 indy IRIX 6.2 180 11 197 485 E450 SunOS 5.5.1 296 6 33 248 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 10 190 480 indy.wald Linux 2.1.90 180 10 190 480 Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 26 21:16:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA2080430 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:16:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA4331888 for linux-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA4377772 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA02536 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:16:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10378 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:16:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA04327; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:16:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327061622.28304@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:16:22 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Snapshot 2.1.90 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 113 Lines: 8 Hi all, now that 2.1.91 has been released I'm putting one last 2.1.90 based snopshot online. Have fun, Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 12:11:16 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA2164467 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:11:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA3103528 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA1918947 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dirtpan.npiww.com (dirtpan.networkprograms.com [207.113.23.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id MAA07227 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:10:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (dliu@npiww.com) Received: from mailhub.networkprograms.com [192.9.202.51] by dirtpan.npiww.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA01304 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:17:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com> From: Dong Liu To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: new to sgi linux Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 833 Lines: 31 Hello, I'm new to sgi linux, just got a spare Indy :=), can some one help me on this. According the linux sgi FAQ on http://www.linux.sgi.com, I download vmlinux-970916-efs and the small root fs. When I boot it using bootp, I get Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 800cbfdc, ra == 800cbfbc right after linux kernel displayed eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx I also noticed that something unusual, the kernel printed out Memory: 60964/196604k avaialble (1020k kernel code, 2772k data) ^^^^^^ this is too big for 62M My machine is a Indy which has 62M memory, and PROMLIB detected it right. Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk. I also tried the newer kernels from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/test, but they immediately crashed. Thanks. Dong From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 13:08:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA2166497 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:08:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA4578665 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA4514553 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA27584 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:06:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16795 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:06:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA05914; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:05:50 +0100 To: Dong Liu Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: new to sgi linux References: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com>; from Dong Liu on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 03:25:08PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1727 Lines: 47 On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 03:25:08PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote: > I'm new to sgi linux, just got a spare Indy :=), can some one help me on this. > > According the linux sgi FAQ on http://www.linux.sgi.com, I download > vmlinux-970916-efs and the small root fs. When I boot it using bootp, > I get > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, > epc == 800cbfdc, ra == 800cbfbc The addresses 0x800cbfdc / 0x800cbfbc are not valid kernel addresses on the Indy. Is it possible you wrote them down wrong? 0x880cbfdc / 0x880cbfbc however would make sense and are indeed in the sgiseeq driver. I'll take a closer look at it. > right after linux kernel displayed > > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx > > I also noticed that something unusual, the kernel printed out > > Memory: 60964/196604k avaialble (1020k kernel code, 2772k data) > ^^^^^^ this is too big for 62M The message is correct. The difference is because of a hole in the Indy's address space comparable to the 640kb - 1024kb hole on PCs. (This should go into the FAQ) > My machine is a Indy which has 62M memory, and PROMLIB detected it right. > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk. Are you shure? Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per kb isue ... Or are the numbers way off? > I also tried the newer kernels from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/test, but > they immediately crashed. There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX. Can you mail me the output? I'm going to put binaries of 2.0.91 online. That kernel seems to be running very reliable for me. In fact it's too reliable to debug, I can't reproduce the one killer bug I know of it must be still there ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 13:22:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA2175213 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:22:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA4671703 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA4648040 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA02355 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-19.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.19]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17651 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:19:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA05999; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: <19980327221930.23662@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:19:30 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: initcode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 336 Lines: 10 Hi, I implemented the initcode stuff for MIPS as well. For my kernel configuration I can reclaim 32kb of memory. IRIX people: Linux can collect all the code that is only being used during system startup in special ELF sections. After system initialziation is done the kernel frees those pages again. Voila, instant memory. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 13:45:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA2174797 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:45:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA4690919 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA4183661 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dirtpan.npiww.com (dirtpan.networkprograms.com [207.113.23.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id NAA11596 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:44:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (dliu@npiww.com) Received: from mailhub.networkprograms.com [192.9.202.51] by dirtpan.npiww.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07937; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:51:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:59:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199803272159.QAA18195@pluto.npiww.com> From: Dong Liu To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: Dong Liu , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: new to sgi linux In-Reply-To: <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> References: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com> <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1400 Lines: 44 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > > The addresses 0x800cbfdc / 0x800cbfbc are not valid kernel addresses on > the Indy. Is it possible you wrote them down wrong? 0x880cbfdc / > 0x880cbfbc however would make sense and are indeed in the sgiseeq driver. > I'll take a closer look at it. Sorry, my mistake, they are 0x880cbfdc 0x880cbfbc > > > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk. > > Are you shure? Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per > kb isue ... Or are the numbers way off? This what I got sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB] :=) > > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX. Can you mail me the output? Here it is 1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0 CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 8 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 8 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Graphics board: Indy 24-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, Indycam connected From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 15:48:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA2159944 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:48:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA4715835 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA4694862 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA01336 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:47:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.113.97]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yIioT-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:45:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:49:43 +0100 (CET) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: new to sgi linux In-Reply-To: <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 229 Lines: 10 On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I'm going to put binaries of 2.0.91 online. I hope I finally get a kernel which boots my Indy now.. This will the most exciting moment of my life :-) (greetings to Ralf) - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 27 20:53:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA2242007 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:53:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA4784528 for linux-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA3616042 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA15375 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:52:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29419 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:52:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA07338; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:52:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19980328055201.31189@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:52:01 +0100 To: Dong Liu Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: new to sgi linux References: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com> <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> <199803272159.QAA18195@pluto.npiww.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803272159.QAA18195@pluto.npiww.com>; from Dong Liu on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:59:26PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 806 Lines: 26 On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:59:26PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote: > > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk. > > > > Are you shure? Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per > > kb isue ... Or are the numbers way off? > > This what I got > > sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512 > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB] > > :=) Hmmm... I speculate we misstreat R4000MC / R4400MC CPUs :-( > > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX. Can you mail me the output? > FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0 > CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0 > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte Sigh, was suspecting that. Actually handling of these CPUs should be fixed in current kernels ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 29 14:41:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA2291026 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:41:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA5333483 for linux-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA5207906 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from MajorD.xtra.co.nz (terminator.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA28682 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:40:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ratfink@xtra.co.nz) Received: from xtra.co.nz (xtra185187.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.187]) by MajorD.xtra.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18155; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:00 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <351ECDC0.D0E3BC60@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:00 +1200 From: Brendan Black Organization: Acess Denied... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: Dong Liu , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: new to sgi linux References: <199803272025.PAA16215@pluto.npiww.com> <19980327220550.50946@uni-koblenz.de> <199803272159.QAA18195@pluto.npiww.com> <19980328055201.31189@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1381 Lines: 38 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:59:26PM -0500, Dong Liu wrote: > > > > > Another thing it didn't get the right capacity of scsi disk. > > > > > > Are you shure? Some peopple got fooled by the 1024 vs. 1024 bytes per > > > kb isue ... Or are the numbers way off? > > > > This what I got > > > > sda: sector size 0 reported, assume 512 > > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes, Sectors=1 [0 MB][0.0 GB] > > > > :=) > > Hmmm... I speculate we misstreat R4000MC / R4400MC CPUs :-( > > > > There is a command named ``hinv'' under IRIX. Can you mail me the output? > > > FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0 > > CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0 > > Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte > > Sigh, was suspecting that. Actually handling of these CPUs should be > fixed in current kernels ... > > Ralf seeeing I am having exactly the same problem, it might fix me too -- Brendan Black - Network Engineer, Telecom Internet Services email: ratfink@xtra.co.nz (personal) phone: +-649 3555238 mob: +-6425 2752667 "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." -- Matt Welsh From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 29 23:44:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA2303363 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:44:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA5347025 for linux-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA5448303 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA01385 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:43:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id JAA20841 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: compile problem with kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 31 hello, i got the kernel (linux-980326) from linux.sgi.com and had the following problems crosscompiling it from intel-linux (which appeared on list once, but without any answer/solution as far as i remember): mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o entry.S: Assembler messages: entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:148: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:148: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/arch/mips/kernel' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 i'd appreciate an explanation what's happening here very much .. thanks -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 30 05:43:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA2315412 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:43:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA5403835 for linux-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA5503244 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA07096 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:42:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (ralf@zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26303; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:42:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id PAA29886; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:42:45 +0200 Message-ID: <19980330154244.19782@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:42:44 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Oliver Frommel Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:42:56AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1722 Lines: 31 On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:42:56AM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > i got the kernel (linux-980326) from linux.sgi.com and had the following > problems crosscompiling it from intel-linux (which appeared on list once, but > without any answer/solution as far as i remember): > > mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o > entry.S: Assembler messages: > entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:148: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:148: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:154: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:156: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:157: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > entry.S:158: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/arch/mips/kernel' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > > i'd appreciate an explanation what's happening here very much .. In the vanilla FSF sources the .previous pseudo is broken resulting in these messages. The fix is in 2.7-4 and newer. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 30 23:16:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA2438049 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:16:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA5834412 for linux-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA5480028 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA04103 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:15:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (pmport-23.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.23]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16443 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:15:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04066; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:14:52 +0200 Message-ID: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:14:52 +0200 To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: <19980330154244.19782@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:26:20AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1486 Lines: 35 On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:26:20AM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:42:56AM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > > > i got the kernel (linux-980326) from linux.sgi.com and had the following > > > problems crosscompiling it from intel-linux (which appeared on list once, but > > > without any answer/solution as far as i remember): > > > > > > mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o > > > entry.S: Assembler messages: > > > entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > > > make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 > > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/arch/mips/kernel' > > > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > > > > > > > > i'd appreciate an explanation what's happening here very much .. > > > > In the vanilla FSF sources the .previous pseudo is broken resulting in > > these messages. The fix is in 2.7-4 and newer. > > What are the vanilla FSF sources? The only FSF I have knowlegde of is the > Free Software Foundation :-) Sorry, but the FSF doesn't over any other flavour except vanilla ;-) > Do I need a new crosscompiler? Not really, if you have a native compiler setup. A crosscompiler is however very handy and sometimes even necessary when bootstrapping for a new system. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 30 22:24:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA2430493 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:24:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA5830574 for linux-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA5825545 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA22962 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:23:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.100.14]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yJuQN-000xjYC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:21:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:26:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980330154244.19782@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1149 Lines: 27 On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:42:56AM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > i got the kernel (linux-980326) from linux.sgi.com and had the following > > problems crosscompiling it from intel-linux (which appeared on list once, but > > without any answer/solution as far as i remember): > > > > mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c entry.S -o entry.o > > entry.S: Assembler messages: > > entry.S:147: Error: .previous without corresponding .section; ignored > > make[1]: *** [entry.o] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/devel/mips/linux-980326/arch/mips/kernel' > > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > > > > > > i'd appreciate an explanation what's happening here very much .. > > In the vanilla FSF sources the .previous pseudo is broken resulting in > these messages. The fix is in 2.7-4 and newer. What are the vanilla FSF sources? The only FSF I have knowlegde of is the Free Software Foundation :-) Do I need a new crosscompiler? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 30 23:33:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA2435998 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:33:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA5815278 for linux-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA5828489 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA07712 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:32:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id JAA09288; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:32:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:32:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1191 Lines: 30 Hi, I am currently trying to rebuild recent binutils and gcc with host=x86 and target=mips-linux. So far I've built binutils-2.8.1 with the patch from sgi.com applied but I have some problems building gcc. I have two questions regarding the setup of the crosscompilation environment: 1. is gas supposed to be part of the binutils package, of the gcc package or is it a package on its own? I've built gas from the binutils dist and put it into the binutils.rpm now while I found it in gcc-xcompile...2.7.2-3.rpm on sgi.com .. 2. which compiler source & patches am i supposed to use? I've tried the original gcc-2.7.2 with patches 2.7.2-6 and 2.7.2-7 from sgi.com applied, but I am not sure if those are meant to be used with a native mips-linux host & target. Anyway I am getting this error when I try to compile gcc now: ./xgcc -B./ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC -I./include -I. -I. -I./config \ -DCRT_BEGIN -finhibit-size-directive -fno-inline-functions \ -c ./crtstuff.c as: unrecognized option `-PIC' make: *** [stamp-crt] Error 1 (btw.: I am using a non-optimizing version of gcc on the crosscompiler host due to a problem with the Cyrix processor ..) thanks -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 30 23:40:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA2437414 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:40:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA5755299 for linux-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA5842547 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA09038 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:39:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id JAA09403 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:39:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:39:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1320 Lines: 26 Hi, i forgot to add the output of xgcc compiling with -v ... $ ../xgcc -v -B../ -c test.c ../cpp -lang-c -v -isystem ../include -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=7 -D__ELF__ -D_MIPS_SIM=_MIPS_SIM_ABI32 -D__PIC__ -D__pic__ -Dunix -Dmips -DR3000 -DMIPSEB -Dlinux -D__ELF__ -D_MIPS_SIM=_MIPS_SIM_ABI32 -D__PIC__ -D__pic__ -D__unix__ -D__mips__ -D__R3000__ -D__MIPSEB__ -D__linux__ -D__unix -D__mips -D__R3000 -D__MIPSEB -D__linux -Asystem(linux) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(mips) -Amachine(mips) -D__LANGUAGE_C__ -DLANGUAGE_C -D_MIPS_FPSET=32 -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS1 -D_MIPS_SZINT=32 -D__SIZE_TYPE__=u nsigned int -D__SSIZE_TYPE__=int -D__PTRDIFF_TYPE__=int -D_MIPS_SZLONG=32 -D_MIPS_SZPTR=32 test.c /tmp/cca22420.i GNU CPP version 2.7.2 [AL 1.1, MM 40] (MIPS Linux/ELF) #include "..." search starts here: #include <...> search starts here: ../include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/sys-include /usr/mips-linux/include End of search list. ../cc1 /tmp/cca22420.i -quiet -dumpbase test.c -version -o /tmp/cca22420.s GNU C version 2.7.2 [AL 1.1, MM 40] (MIPS Linux/ELF) compiled by GNU C version 2.7.2.3. as -v -KPIC -o test.o /tmp/cca22420.s GNU assembler version 2.8.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu), using BFD version linux-2.8.1.0.1 as: unrecognized option `-PIC' -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 06:40:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA2448420 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:40:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA5987303 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA5931045 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA05120 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:39:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (dali.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16327 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:38:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA05219; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:38:50 +0200 Message-ID: <19980331163848.49537@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:38:48 +0200 To: Oliver Frommel Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:39:47AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 29 On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:39:47AM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > Hi, > > i forgot to add the output of xgcc compiling with -v ... > > $ ../xgcc -v -B../ -c test.c > > ../cpp -lang-c -v -isystem ../include -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=7 -D__ELF__ -D_MIPS_SIM=_MIPS_SIM_ABI32 -D__PIC__ -D__pic__ -Dunix -Dmips -DR3000 -DMIPSEB -Dlinux -D__ELF__ -D_MIPS_SIM=_MIPS_SIM_ABI32 -D__PIC__ -D__pic__ -D__unix__ -D__mips__ > -D__R3000__ -D__MIPSEB__ -D__linux__ -D__unix -D__mips -D__R3000 -D__MIPSEB -D__linux -Asystem(linux) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(mips) -Amachine(mips) -D__LANGUAGE_C__ -DLANGUAGE_C -D_MIPS_FPSET=32 -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS1 -D_MIPS_SZINT=32 -D__SIZE_TYPE__=u > nsigned int -D__SSIZE_TYPE__=int -D__PTRDIFF_TYPE__=int -D_MIPS_SZLONG=32 -D_MIPS_SZPTR=32 test.c /tmp/cca22420.i > GNU CPP version 2.7.2 [AL 1.1, MM 40] (MIPS Linux/ELF) > #include "..." search starts here: > #include <...> search starts here: > ../include > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/include > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2/sys-include > /usr/mips-linux/include > End of search list. > ../cc1 /tmp/cca22420.i -quiet -dumpbase test.c -version -o /tmp/cca22420.s > GNU C version 2.7.2 [AL 1.1, MM 40] (MIPS Linux/ELF) compiled by GNU C version 2.7.2.3. > as -v -KPIC -o test.o /tmp/cca22420.s > GNU assembler version 2.8.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu), using BFD version linux-2.8.1.0.1 > as: unrecognized option `-PIC' Your crosscompiler is caling the native assembler. Did you install binutils? Did you configure the sources them using the same --prefix option? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 06:47:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA2446429 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:47:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA5386931 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA5961123 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA07412 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:46:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id QAA17630 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:46:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:46:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331163848.49537@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 522 Lines: 16 > > as -v -KPIC -o test.o /tmp/cca22420.s > > GNU assembler version 2.8.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu), using BFD version linux-2.8.1.0.1 > > as: unrecognized option `-PIC' > > Your crosscompiler is caling the native assembler. Did you install binutils? > Did you configure the sources them using the same --prefix option? > i installed the binutils-2.8.1 with the following configuration: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/binutils-xcompile-root/usr/local --program-prefix=mips -linux- --enable-shared --target=mips-linux -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 06:50:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA2445583 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:50:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA5693110 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA5976320 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA08109 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:50:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (dali.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16821 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:50:13 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA05236; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:49:50 +0200 Message-ID: <19980331164948.39802@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:49:48 +0200 To: Oliver Frommel Cc: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:32:33AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 32 On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:32:33AM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > I am currently trying to rebuild recent binutils and gcc with host=x86 and > target=mips-linux. So far I've built binutils-2.8.1 with the patch from sgi.com > applied but I have some problems building gcc. I have two questions regarding > the setup of the crosscompilation environment: > > 1. is gas supposed to be part of the binutils package, Yes. > of the gcc package or > is it a package on its own? I've built gas from the binutils dist and put it > into the binutils.rpm now while I found it in gcc-xcompile...2.7.2-3.rpm > on sgi.com .. > 2. which compiler source & patches am i supposed to use? Binutils 2.7-4 and newer are ok for kernels; userland needs 2.8.1-1 or newer or building certain shared libs will fail. GCC 2.7.2-7 is ok. Btw, you only need to apply one of these patches; none of my binutils or gcc patches was meant to be applied incrementally. > gcc-2.7.2 with patches 2.7.2-6 and 2.7.2-7 from sgi.com applied, but I am not > sure if those are meant to be used with a native mips-linux host & target. > Anyway I am getting this error when I try to compile gcc now: You can build both native and crosscompilers from the same source. That's the beauty of GCC. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 06:56:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA2411976 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:56:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA5934800 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA5875445 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA09557 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:55:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17039; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:55:06 +0200 (MEST) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id QAA15963; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:55:02 +0200 Message-ID: <19980331165502.28021@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:55:02 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Oliver Frommel Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: <19980331163848.49537@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 04:46:53PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 317 Lines: 10 On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 04:46:53PM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > i installed the binutils-2.8.1 with the following configuration: > > ./configure --prefix=/tmp/binutils-xcompile-root/usr/local --program-prefix=mips > -linux- --enable-shared --target=mips-linux You loose. You install software in /tmp??? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 06:58:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA2444134 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:58:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA5695230 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA5992517 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA10484 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:57:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id QAA17780 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:57:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:57:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331165502.28021@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1143 Lines: 39 > > > > ./configure --prefix=/tmp/binutils-xcompile-root/usr/local --program-prefix=mips > > -linux- --enable-shared --target=mips-linux > > You loose. You install software in /tmp??? > yeah. i lose - i use RPM :-) seriuosly, i've installed it in /tmp/binutils-xcompile-root and packaged the RPM from there, then installed the RPM whose -qpl looks like this: /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-c++filt /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-gasp /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-ld /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-nm /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-objcopy /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-objdump /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-ranlib /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-size /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-strings /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-strip /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-as /usr/local/bin/mips-linux-ar /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/ar /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/as /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/ld /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/nm /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/ranlib /usr/local/mips-linux/bin/strip /usr/local/lib/libmips-linux-bfd.so /usr/local/lib/libmips-linux-bfd.so.2.8.1 /usr/local/lib/libmips-linux-opcodes.a /usr/local/lib/libmips-linux-opcodes.so /usr/local/lib/libmips-linux-opcodes.so.2.8.1 ... -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 07:34:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA2427754 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:34:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA5970954 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA5710046 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA21912 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:33:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18874; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA16010; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:04 +0200 Message-ID: <19980331173303.53710@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:03 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Oliver Frommel Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel References: <19980331165502.28021@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 04:57:52PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 761 Lines: 23 On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 04:57:52PM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > ./configure --prefix=/tmp/binutils-xcompile-root/usr/local --program-prefix=mips > > > -linux- --enable-shared --target=mips-linux > > > > You loose. You install software in /tmp??? > > > > yeah. i lose - i use RPM :-) > seriuosly, i've installed it in /tmp/binutils-xcompile-root and packaged the RPM > from there, then installed the RPM whose -qpl looks like this: That strategy fails for alot of GNU autoconf'ed software. Better do it like: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local make ... make prefix=/tmp/binutils-xcompile-root/usr/local install Otherwise you might end up with an embedded /tmp/binutils... path in some files. This for example happens when building GCC. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 08:02:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA2439421 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:02:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA6008489 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA4461388 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA00976 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id RAA18938; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:59:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:59:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331173303.53710@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 248 Lines: 11 hi, ich hab einen dir einen account auf greasy.aec.at eingerichtet. login: ralf, passwd: foobar7 die sourcen und patches fuer binutils sind in /usr/src/redhat... die entpackte source fuer gcc-2.7.2 ind /home/oliver/devel/gcc-2.7.2 ciao -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 31 08:02:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA2448943 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:02:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA5992804 for linux-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA5906067 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dirtpan.npiww.com (dirtpan.networkprograms.com [207.113.23.2]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id IAA01759 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:01:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (dliu@npiww.com) Received: from mailhub.networkprograms.com [192.9.202.51] by dirtpan.npiww.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA02923; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:09:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:16:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199803311616.LAA16707@pluto.npiww.com> From: Dong Liu To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: compile problem with kernel In-Reply-To: <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980330154244.19782@uni-koblenz.de> <19980331091452.41730@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 947 Lines: 34 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 09:26:20AM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > > In the vanilla FSF sources the .previous pseudo is broken resulting in > > > these messages. The fix is in 2.7-4 and newer. > > > > What are the vanilla FSF sources? The only FSF I have knowlegde of is the > > Free Software Foundation :-) > > Sorry, but the FSF doesn't over any other flavour except vanilla ;-) > > > Do I need a new crosscompiler? > > Not really, if you have a native compiler setup. A crosscompiler is > however very handy and sometimes even necessary when bootstrapping for a > new system. > > Ralf > I also have the same problem, however I don't have a native compiler, I can't make the pre-compiled kernel boot on my Indy:), I'm cross compiling it on i486-linux I got my binutils from ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/crossdev/i486-linux/mips-linux Where can I ftp binutils 2.7-4 ? Thanks! Dong