From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Apr 30 18:07:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA3458271 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA18813841 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA18851894; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA27114; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:05:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13443; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:05:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01729; Fri, 1 May 1998 03:05:16 +0200 Message-ID: <19980501030516.19734@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 03:05:16 +0200 To: Steve Alexander Cc: Alex deVries , jrs@world.std.com, SGI Linux Subject: Re: MIPS/Linux port for strace References: <199805010037.RAA02450@refugee.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199805010037.RAA02450@refugee.engr.sgi.com>; from Steve Alexander on Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 05:37:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 753 Lines: 17 On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 05:37:19PM -0700, Steve Alexander wrote: > Alex deVries writes: > >Dave Miller, Miguel de Icaza and Ralf Baechle fixed strace for MIPS/Linux > >and Irix 6.2. I have access to the source tree, and I think it'd be > >helpful to merge it into the main strace source tree. Are you interested? > > I don't know whether Rick's interested, but I use strace constantly on IRIX, > so it would be epic if it were maintained somewhere (but I have no time, > alas...). As far as IRIX goes the will probably be some maintenance from the Linux side since the IRIX and RISC/os syscalls are a subset of the Linux syscall interface. This does not necessarily mean that strace will build under Linux ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 1 11:21:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3537314 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA18970782 for linux-list; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA18951031 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA07826 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:20:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27719 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:20:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Hanging. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 510 Lines: 18 This is a bit weird. Once every 30 minutes or so, my Indy just sits there and hangs. Num lock will work, it'll ping, but there'll be no error messages, and the system's useless. After about 10 minutes of this, it'll wake up as if nothing had happened. This is with 2.1.91. Ideas? My initial suspicion is my SCSI bus, although I'm getting no kernel errors at all. - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 1 11:45:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3535852 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA19050570 for linux-list; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA19117977 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA16804 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28291 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 14:43:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 14:43:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: setting default boot image in nvram. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 409 Lines: 16 How do I set my default boot image in nvram WITH a boot disk option? See, normally, you can just pass "root=/dev/sdb1" to the kernel on the command line, but that's 14 chars, and the OSLoadOptions only has room for 12. Hm. Perhaps we should get rdev-like stuff running. ? -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 1 12:30:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3532075 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19031413 for linux-list; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA17634192; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA23116; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:29:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:29:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199805011929.MAA23116@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 594 Lines: 15 Alex deVries writes: > > This is a bit weird. Once every 30 minutes or so, my Indy just sits > there and hangs. Num lock will work, it'll ping, but there'll be no error > messages, and the system's useless. After about 10 minutes of this, it'll > wake up as if nothing had happened. > > This is with 2.1.91. > > Ideas? My initial suspicion is my SCSI bus, although I'm getting no kernel > errors at all. Is this an R4000? If so, it might be the count/compare erratum, if the linux kernel does not have the workaround for it yet. (I haven't checked the linux sources.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 1 12:38:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3533142 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA18491859 for linux-list; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA19162747; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA06563; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:37:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA30398; Fri, 1 May 1998 15:37:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:37:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "William J. Earl" cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <199805011929.MAA23116@fir.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 302 Lines: 10 On Fri, 1 May 1998, William J. Earl wrote: > Is this an R4000? If so, it might be the count/compare erratum, if > the linux kernel does not have the workaround for it yet. (I haven't > checked the linux sources.) This is an R4600. How would I check if there were that patch applied? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 1 12:46:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3460560 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA18718654 for linux-list; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA17161629; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA23172; Fri, 1 May 1998 12:45:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 12:45:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199805011945.MAA23172@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: References: <199805011929.MAA23116@fir.engr.sgi.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1252 Lines: 22 Alex deVries writes: > > On Fri, 1 May 1998, William J. Earl wrote: > > Is this an R4000? If so, it might be the count/compare erratum, if > > the linux kernel does not have the workaround for it yet. (I haven't > > checked the linux sources.) > > This is an R4600. How would I check if there were that patch applied? The problem I have in mind cannot occur on an R4600. The modification is to the routine which fetches $count. On the R4000, if you are depending on the $compare match interrupt, you have to check for the possibility that $count equalled $compare when you fetched it, since that causes the interrupt to not happen. In that case, you have to fake the interrupt in some way, or have to wait for $count to wrap (about 84 seconds at 100 MHZ). IRIX just checks to see if the fetched copy of $count is close to a shadow copy $compare. If it is, and if the clock interrupt request bit is off (this being done with interrupts disabled), we set $compare a little head of the current $count and spin until the interrupt bit goes on (with some care to avoid getting stuck if we lose the race in terms of setting $compare ahead of $count). Again, all this only applies to the R4000, not to the R4400, R4600, or R5000. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 03:54:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA3607134 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA19325169 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA14794009 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA05641 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-11.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.11]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22816 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:52:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04076; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:52:35 +0200 Message-ID: <19980502125234.04479@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:52:34 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:20:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 31 On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:20:22PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > This is a bit weird. Once every 30 minutes or so, my Indy just sits > there and hangs. Num lock will work, it'll ping, but there'll be no error > messages, and the system's useless. After about 10 minutes of this, it'll > wake up as if nothing had happened. Is it possibly about 64 seconds and not 10 minutes? If so, we're loosing timer interrupts. This doesn't happen for me and in current kernels we should actually be safe from this with the exception of 100MHz R4000. If they keyboard is still working, try pressing +. This should print a register dump. That dump might end up in the syslog depending from your setup. Does the keyboard still work (try toggling the caps lock led with caps lock)? If you get such a register dump, could you please send it to me? > This is with 2.1.91. > > Ideas? My initial suspicion is my SCSI bus, although I'm getting no kernel > errors at all. The Indy driver should be pretty stable as it's based on another stone age driver for various Amiga hostadapters. There are actually a couple of funny ones in the generic .91 code which fried that kernel several times for me; on configurations that are supported the bugs in the portable Linux code are beginning to be the limit ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 12:14:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3619881 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19406346 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA17658594 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA14895 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 12:12:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA24093 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 15:12:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 15:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: RedHat 5.0 updated RPMS for SGI/Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2011 Lines: 74 The result of a week of rebooting my machine and avoiding kerne problems is almost all the appropriate update RedHat 5.0 RPMs being ported. The ones that have changed are: May 02 4:00 AdV Caught up with RedHat updates for 5.0 Xconfigurator-3.26-1.mipseb.rpm amd-920824upl102-11.mipseb.rpm autofs-0.3.14-2.mipseb.rpm bind-utils-4.9.6-7.mipseb.rpm bind-4.9.6-7.mipseb.rpm dump-0.3-11.mipseb.rpm elm-2.4.25-11.mipseb.rpm findutils-4.1-21.mipseb.rpm gated-3.5.8-1.mipseb.rpm gtk-devel-0.99.970925-3.mipseb.rpm gtk-0.99.970925-3.mipseb.rpm gzip-1.2.4-10.mipseb.rpm imap-4.1.BETA-9.mipseb.rpm initscripts-3.32-1.mipseb.rpm info-3.12-1.mipseb.rpm kbd-0.94-6.mipseb.rpm ld.so-1.9.5-2.mipseb.rpm lpr-0.31-1.mipseb.rpm lynx-2.8-1.mipseb.rpm mh-6.8.4-6.mipseb.rpm ncftp-2.4.3-1.mipseb.rpm procps-X11-1.2.7-1.mipseb.rpm procps-1.2.7-1.mipseb.rpm portmap-4.0-8.mipseb.rpm perl-5.004-4.mipseb.rpm pine-3.96-7.mipseb.rpm quota-1.55-7.mipseb.rpm rmt-0.3-11.mipseb.rpm rpm-devel-2.4.109-1.mipseb.rpm rpm-2.4.109-1.mipseb.rpm shadow-utils-970616-11.mipseb.rpm texinfo-3.12-1.mipseb.rpm textutils-1.22-5.mipseb.rpm tmpwatch-1.5-1.mipseb.rpm tcp_wrappers-7.6-2.mipseb.rpm transfig-3.2-3.mipseb.rpm trn-3.6-11.mipseb.rpm usernet-1.0.6-1.mipseb.rpm vixie-cron-3.0.1-20.mipseb.rpm wu-ftpd-2.4.2b15-6.mipseb.rpm xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.mipseb.rpm yppasswd-0.9-3.mipseb.rpm ypbind-3.3-3.mipseb.rpm The ones I still haven't sorted out are: ld.so kaffe smbfs util-linux mars-nwe ppp ncpfs Now, all of this should eventually be sorted out, and I haven't looked through Alan's entire source patches. Most of the work in all of this is actually organizing things. Please, if you modify the contents of the RPMs directory on linus, keep the log in README.txt. - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www..engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 16:14:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA3629298 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA19450250 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA19587334 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA19700 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19488 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:08:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA04955; Sun, 3 May 1998 01:08:20 +0200 Message-ID: <19980503010816.49649@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:08:16 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 updated RPMS for SGI/Linux References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, May 02, 1998 at 03:12:30PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1572 Lines: 51 On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 03:12:30PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > The result of a week of rebooting my machine and avoiding kerne problems > is almost all the appropriate update RedHat 5.0 RPMs being ported. The > ones that have changed are: > > May 02 4:00 AdV Caught up with RedHat updates for 5.0 Could you also mention that on the news page? People already believe the project is dead because nobody writes stupid web docs ... > ld.so-1.9.5-2.mipseb.rpm No. Heavens, I don't know why this thing built at all for you but this package neither supports MIPS nor is it required. The program interpreter (aka dynamic linker) for GNU libc is packaged in GNU libc. I suggest removing this package from our source trees. > The ones I still haven't sorted out are: > ld.so See above. > kaffe Afaik kaffee is hairy, because writing a MIPS JIT is required. > smbfs > util-linux > mars-nwe > ppp > ncpfs At least some of these will build if you install Linux 2.0 header files and the X stuff of which tarballs are online. It's one of the cheats I never published ... I'm using the headerfiles of my Cobalt Qube kernel for this purpose. They should have newer kernel source rpms on ftp by now, I think. > Now, all of this should eventually be sorted out, and I haven't looked > through Alan's entire source patches. Most of the work in all of this is > actually organizing things. > > Please, if you modify the contents of the RPMs directory on linus, keep > the log in README.txt. Definately, the current documentation is pretty much (censored). Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 18:01:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA3626519 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA19363526 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA19568442 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA03877 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 17:56:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA31104; Sat, 2 May 1998 20:56:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 20:56:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 updated RPMS for SGI/Linux In-Reply-To: <19980503010816.49649@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2543 Lines: 64 On Sun, 3 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 03:12:30PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > May 02 4:00 AdV Caught up with RedHat updates for 5.0 > Could you also mention that on the news page? People already believe > the project is dead because nobody writes stupid web docs ... Yup, that's done now. > > ld.so-1.9.5-2.mipseb.rpm > No. > Heavens, I don't know why this thing built at all for you but this package > neither supports MIPS nor is it required. The program interpreter (aka It built badly, but it slipped through the cracks and made it into the distribution. I didn't quite know the status of it. Anyway, this is now in the trash. > > The ones I still haven't sorted out are: > > kaffe > Afaik kaffee is hairy, because writing a MIPS JIT is required. Yeah, I don't see this happening any time soon. Too bad. > > smbfs > > util-linux > > mars-nwe > > ppp > > ncpfs > At least some of these will build if you install Linux 2.0 header files > and the X stuff of which tarballs are online. It's one of the cheats I > never published ... I'm using the headerfiles of my Cobalt Qube kernel for > this purpose. They should have newer kernel source rpms on ftp by now, I > think. util-linux definitely needs some fixing, it is such a badly written package. The others were things like errors with FD_ZERO and others, clearly with header files being, er, different than on i386. This brings up the issue of getting all the kernel fixes back into the main stream kernel _before_ 2.2 so that things get synched up right. There's a large amount of comfort for this project to stick with what The Big Guys (RedHat) are releasing. Of course we don't know that they'll be moving to 2.2 when it comes out, but 2.0 is useless for us and 2.1 seems less likely. Of course, all this is just guess work, since intelligently people are avoiding vapourware. I doubt there's even been an announcement of Red Hat distributing a 5.1... In #linux, Alan said that Ralf and DaveM were working on this merge. I know that Mike Shaver said he was interested. All I can say is that I probably don't have time for it. Also, for the mipsel packagers out there, could you kindly now use RPM 2.4.109? There's a source RPM on linus for this. It generates a different architecture of the packages. If I had a mipsel machine, I'd do it, but... > Definately, the current documentation is pretty much (censored). Yup. Oh, god, doing the actual work is so much more fun than updating WWW pages... *sigh*. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 18:20:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA3637582 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA18845438 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA19688863 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA06688 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:14:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA31341 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:14:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 21:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: IDE device in defconfig... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 384 Lines: 13 The default config in the kernel is to enable IDE devices, which as I found out the hard way breaks the bootup on my SGI. Is this the default for a reason? Do other non-SGI MIPS machines have IDE controllers? If not, I'd like to change this. - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 2 18:32:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA3640623 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA19412640 for linux-list; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA17101401 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA08594 for ; Sat, 2 May 1998 18:26:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA31687; Sat, 2 May 1998 21:26:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 21:26:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <19980502125234.04479@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1103 Lines: 25 On Sat, 2 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 02:20:22PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > This is a bit weird. Once every 30 minutes or so, my Indy just sits > > there and hangs. Num lock will work, it'll ping, but there'll be no error > > messages, and the system's useless. After about 10 minutes of this, it'll > > wake up as if nothing had happened. > > Is it possibly about 64 seconds and not 10 minutes? If so, we're loosing Hm. It's definitely more than 64 seconds. It's happening right now, and we're at 5 minutes by my watch. It could be multiple 64 second hangs back to back, though. And I have a 134Mhz, I believe. > If they keyboard is still working, try pressing +. This > should print a register dump. That dump might end up in the syslog > depending from your setup. Does the keyboard still work (try toggling > the caps lock led with caps lock)? If you get such a register dump, could > you please send it to me? Yes, I will. This will have to wait until I am at the console, though, which can't be until tomorrow. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 05:34:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA3273394 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA19617730 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA19542135 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA11282 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:33:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.29]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08109 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:33:14 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA05341; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:33:00 +0200 Message-ID: <19980503143300.07739@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 14:33:00 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: IDE device in defconfig... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, May 02, 1998 at 09:14:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 631 Lines: 14 On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 09:14:11PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > The default config in the kernel is to enable IDE devices, which as I > found out the hard way breaks the bootup on my SGI. Is this the default > for a reason? Do other non-SGI MIPS machines have IDE controllers? If > not, I'd like to change this. The default configuration happens to be what I use to compile a kernel for my RM200 and Acer machine and yes, one can plug IDE hostadapters into them. Whatever, IDE configured shouldn't crash the kernel, that's the bug, not that IDE is configured in and it's easy to fix, see linux/include/asm-mips/ide.h. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 05:49:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA3672084 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA19243020 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA19818089 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA13029 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.29]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08517 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:47:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA05350; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:47:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19980503144744.11223@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 14:47:44 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 updated RPMS for SGI/Linux References: <19980503010816.49649@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:56:08PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3189 Lines: 75 On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:56:08PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 03:12:30PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > > May 02 4:00 AdV Caught up with RedHat updates for 5.0 > > Could you also mention that on the news page? People already believe > > the project is dead because nobody writes stupid web docs ... > > Yup, that's done now. > > > > ld.so-1.9.5-2.mipseb.rpm > > No. > > Heavens, I don't know why this thing built at all for you but this package > > neither supports MIPS nor is it required. The program interpreter (aka > > It built badly, but it slipped through the cracks and made it into the > distribution. I didn't quite know the status of it. Anyway, this is now > in the trash. It actually be changed to prevent it from being building on MIPS and others which have no use for it. > > At least some of these will build if you install Linux 2.0 header files > > and the X stuff of which tarballs are online. It's one of the cheats I > > never published ... I'm using the headerfiles of my Cobalt Qube kernel for > > this purpose. They should have newer kernel source rpms on ftp by now, I > > think. > > util-linux definitely needs some fixing, it is such a badly written > package. The others were things like errors with FD_ZERO and others, > clearly with header files being, er, different than on i386. Linux 2.0 headers help somewhat. > This brings up the issue of getting all the kernel fixes back into the > main stream kernel _before_ 2.2 so that things get synched up right. Include/asm-mips, drivers/scsi/sgiwd93.[ch], drivers/net/sgiseeq.[ch], arch/mips/ are in sync with vger-cvs, from where they'll go to Linus. I've got some more hacks on hold. Once they're commited, I won't have time for some days, then I'll start upgrading the thing to linus-current. Will have to redo some things, one of my disks has thrown the spoon ... > There's a large amount of comfort for this project to stick with what The > Big Guys (RedHat) are releasing. > Of course we don't know that they'll be > moving to 2.2 when it comes out, but 2.0 is useless for us and 2.1 seems > less likely. Of course, all this is just guess work, since intelligently > people are avoiding vapourware. I doubt there's even been an announcement > of Red Hat distributing a 5.1... > > In #linux, Alan said that Ralf and DaveM were working on this merge. I > know that Mike Shaver said he was interested. All I can say is that I > probably don't have time for it. > > Also, for the mipsel packagers out there, could you kindly now use RPM > 2.4.109? Does this mean that the mipsel/mipseb modifications are now distributed with RedHat's sources? > There's a source RPM on linus for this. It generates a different > architecture of the packages. If I had a mipsel machine, I'd do it, > but... I have several le machines. > > Definately, the current documentation is pretty much (censored). > > Yup. Oh, god, doing the actual work is so much more fun than updating WWW > pages... *sigh*. Agreed, but it has to be done. I'm myself a web hater ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 11:24:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3673758 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA18408566 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA19854875 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA29347 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:22:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17010; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:22:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 14:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <19980502125234.04479@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1108 Lines: 32 On Sat, 2 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > If they keyboard is still working, try pressing +. This > should print a register dump. That dump might end up in the syslog > depending from your setup. Does the keyboard still work (try toggling > the caps lock led with caps lock)? If you get such a register dump, could > you please send it to me? Alright. My machine had been hung since last night at 9pm, so this is 17 hours later. Here's what's on my console, hand typed because I'm not bright enough to have a serial console: from before: zsh: Exception at [<8801800e4>] (80018234) after my alt-scroll lock: $0 : 00000000 88130000 00000000 8a7863f8 $4 : 8a786500 8bf5bf48 8a786500 00023ea1 $8 : 80000000 80000000 881702d0 00000001 $12: fffffffc 1000fc01 00000000 7ffff8f0 $16: 8836eaa0 00000b64 00005ebc 00000002 $20: 0000bf8b 00000001 00000000 9fc56394 $24: 00000000 0fb6710 $28: 8bf5a000 8bf5bf38 9fc4be88 8803be90 epc : 88034d6c Status: 1000fc03 Cause : 00000400 The kernel I'm running is 2.1.91, which I got from Ralf in ~ralf/vmlinuz.gz or similiar on linus. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 11:41:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3662316 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA19517460 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA19826839 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA02027 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-17.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.17]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19132 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 20:40:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA05694; Sun, 3 May 1998 20:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: <19980503204000.44125@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:40:00 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. References: <19980502125234.04479@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, May 03, 1998 at 02:22:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1008 Lines: 31 On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 02:22:27PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > Alright. My machine had been hung since last night at 9pm, so this is 17 > hours later. Here's what's on my console, hand typed because I'm not > bright enough to have a serial console: > > from before: > zsh: Exception at [<8801800e4>] (80018234) Which just means that zsh is buggy ... > after my alt-scroll lock: > $0 : 00000000 88130000 00000000 8a7863f8 > $4 : 8a786500 8bf5bf48 8a786500 00023ea1 > $8 : 80000000 80000000 881702d0 00000001 > $12: fffffffc 1000fc01 00000000 7ffff8f0 > $16: 8836eaa0 00000b64 00005ebc 00000002 > $20: 0000bf8b 00000001 00000000 9fc56394 > $24: 00000000 0fb6710 > $28: 8bf5a000 8bf5bf38 9fc4be88 8803be90 > epc : 88034d6c > Status: 1000fc03 > Cause : 00000400 > > The kernel I'm running is 2.1.91, which I got from Ralf in > ~ralf/vmlinuz.gz or similiar on linus. I think you got trapped by one of those generic mm bugs in .91. Will probably go away once we've upgraded to something newer. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 19:15:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA3148819 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA19358994 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA19793267 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA13001 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:13:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA27715; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:13:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: RedHat 5.0 updated RPMS for SGI/Linux In-Reply-To: <19980503144744.11223@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 536 Lines: 17 On Sun, 3 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:56:08PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > > > ld.so-1.9.5-2.mipseb.rpm > It actually be changed to prevent it from being building on MIPS and others > which have no use for it. Yup. I'll get those fixes in. > Does this mean that the mipsel/mipseb modifications are now distributed with > RedHat's sources? Not now, and not in RH 5.1. Once RH 5.1 is out, I'll be feeding fixes back to RH. Both Erik Troan and Alan have said they'll handle fixes. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 19:15:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA2758168 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA19644722 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA11263894 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA13473 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 19:15:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA27761; Sun, 3 May 1998 22:15:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <19980503204000.44125@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 320 Lines: 10 On Sun, 3 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I think you got trapped by one of those generic mm bugs in .91. Will > probably go away once we've upgraded to something newer. Alright. I got it about once an hour today, which is tough to live with. I think I'll go and compile RPMs on Zach's Qube instead... - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 3 23:59:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA3710847 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA20007465 for linux-list; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA19976141 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA06266 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.18]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17638 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:57:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA06913; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:57:12 +0200 Message-ID: <19980504085711.44483@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:57:11 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. References: <19980503204000.44125@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:15:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 427 Lines: 12 On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:15:27PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > I think you got trapped by one of those generic mm bugs in .91. Will > > probably go away once we've upgraded to something newer. > > Alright. I got it about once an hour today, which is tough to live with. > I think I'll go and compile RPMs on Zach's Qube instead... Cobalt Qube is little endian ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 10:16:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA3426401 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA20163973 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA20102643 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA11585 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16103; Mon, 4 May 1998 13:14:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <19980504085711.44483@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 842 Lines: 23 On Mon, 4 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:15:27PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > Alright. I got it about once an hour today, which is tough to live with. > > I think I'll go and compile RPMs on Zach's Qube instead... > Cobalt Qube is little endian ... I stand corrected, I'd misunderstood. There'll be a pretty large problem with Qube users using the version of RPM that ships with it, since those think they're 'mips', which is actually 'mipseb' now. Anyone know anybody at Cobalt Micro who does their distribution development? We need to sort this problem out somehow. Their machines should ship with a later release of RPM, and their packages should ship as mipsel. Oh, and there'll be a huge batch of mipseb binary RPMs ported from the contrib directory on ftp.redhat.com. Details later. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 11:50:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA3616294 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA19859762 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA20078156 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA23362 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 11:48:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA19433; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:48:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: rpm-list@redhat.com cc: SGI Linux , support@cobaltmicro.com Subject: CobaltMicro's Qube. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2857 Lines: 64 I just have to raise a red flag here. Oh, man. This is going to be a royal pain for somebody, and I'm not sure who. In short, Qubes are shipping with architecture numbers that are inconsistant with RPM's. The Qubes shipped by Cobalt Micro have RPM 2.4.10glibc shipping on them: Name : rpm Distribution: (none) Version : 2.4.10 Vendor: (none) Release : 1glibc Build Date: Sun Dec 14 18:59:00 1997 Install date: Tue Feb 22 03:10:44 2000 Build Host: duplo.cobaltmicro.com Group : Utilities/System Source RPM: rpm-2.4.10-1glibc.src.rpm Size : 519375 The architecture of these is actually little endian (mipsel), but the architecture of the packages installed and produced is #4 according to its rpmrc. At that point 4 was called just plain 'mips', and didn't diffrentiate the byte order. A while back we produced the big endian mips (mipseb) architecture for machines such as SGIs. This was especially important because of the SGI port actively releasing binaries only in RPM format. Because (we thought) there were more packages that were in fact more big endian labelled as 'mips', we kept 4 as mipseb, and made a new mipsel (#11). I suggested that because I thought the only mipseb/mipsel packages were produced by specific people: Ralf, Alan and myself. I just hadn't thought about Cobalt, and nobody at Cobalt piped up to complain when we were throwing the idea around. The earlier we solve this problem, the better. The longer we wait, the more mislabelled packages will be out there. As it is, there will be a chunk of compiled RPMs for mipseb in /contrib tonight. So, now we're faced with a dilemna. We need to choose: 1. Rename all the mipseb packages to a new number, let the Cobalt folks keep #4 as mipsel, and mark #11 as something like 'mips_obselete'. I don't mind doing this, but I'd like to know this before I start on the next port of RH source RPMs. There's a lot more Cobalt Micro Qubes out there than SGI/Linux boxes. I would personally be a bit of an unhappy camper if this were the case. 2. Get Cobalt Micro from now on to ship their Qube's with the correctly labelled packages as #11. That would mean Cobalt would have to conform to our standard. The build date on that box is Dec. 14, before we set the new standard. I'm surprised they didn't double check that they were using the correct new architecture number. 3. Go through hell, with all 'rpm -i ftp.redhat.com/pub/contrib/hurricane/mipseb/bleah.rpm' not reporting errors on the Qube, despite the incorrect binaries being installed, and rpm on the Qube building incorrectly labelled binaries. It would be really good if someone from Qube could give a comment on this. Anyone know who's doing distribution development stuff at Qube? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 12:33:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3711489 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19245003 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA20141573 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA11211 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:32:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11041 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:32:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA08277; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:32:05 +0200 Message-ID: <19980504213205.32754@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:32:05 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: tim@cobaltmicro.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. References: <19980504085711.44483@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 01:14:21PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1409 Lines: 34 On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 01:14:21PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:15:27PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > > Alright. I got it about once an hour today, which is tough to live with. > > > I think I'll go and compile RPMs on Zach's Qube instead... > > Cobalt Qube is little endian ... > > I stand corrected, I'd misunderstood. > > There'll be a pretty large problem with Qube users using the version of > RPM that ships with it, since those think they're 'mips', which is > actually 'mipseb' now. > > Anyone know anybody at Cobalt Micro who does their distribution > development? We need to sort this problem out somehow. Their machines > should ship with a later release of RPM, and their packages should ship > as mipsel. I cc this to Tim. DaveM is also reading this list, so they'll know. The problem isn't too bad. One new rpm binaries have been installed those will know about mipsel/mipseb. And we _had_ to break compatibility, remember the purpose was to make the two flavours and the old ``mips'' flavour different and distinguishable from each other. If this ends up being a problem one can still add apropriate entries to /usr/lib/rpmrc or using the --ignore-arch option. > Oh, and there'll be a huge batch of mipseb binary RPMs ported from the > contrib directory on ftp.redhat.com. Details later. Cool. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 12:33:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3552594 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19359656 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA19137081 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA11528 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:33:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA20933; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:33:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:33:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux cc: redhat-announce-list@redhat.com Subject: Big-endian MIPS RPMs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1990 Lines: 76 My Indy is chugging through the batch of source RPMs in the ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/conntrib/hurricane/SRPMS directory. I've uploaded the packages below my .sig to the incoming directory. They will be found in the /pub/contrib/hurricane/mipseb directory. Note: these are for big endian MIPS machines such as the SGI Indy. _NOT_ the Cobalt Micro Qube. - A -- Alex deVries http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . a2ps-4.10-1.mipseb.rpm aalib-1.2-2.mipseb.rpm aalib-devel-1.2-2.mipseb.rpm aalib-progs-1.2-2.mipseb.rpm afio-2.4.2-3.mipseb.rpm afm2pfm-1.0-5.mipseb.rpm agrep-2.04-2.mipseb.rpm amp-0.7.6-3.mipseb.rpm anacron-2.0.1-1.mipseb.rpm apache-1.3b6-3.mipseb.rpm apcupsd-3.3.0-2.mipseb.rpm apmd-2.4-4.mipseb.rpm archie-1.4.1-6.mipseb.rpm ascd-0.7-3.mipseb.rpm asclock-1.0-2.mipseb.rpm asmail-0.50-4.mipseb.rpm asmixer-0.5-2.mipseb.rpm asmodem-0.60-3.mipseb.rpm at-3.1.8-1.mipseb.rpm aumix-1.7-1.mipseb.rpm bash-2.02-3.mipseb.rpm bash-doc-2.02-3.mipseb.rpm bind-8.1.2-3.mipseb.rpm bind-devel-8.1.2-3.mipseb.rpm bind-utils-8.1.2-3.mipseb.rpm binstats-1.0-2.mipseb.rpm bpowerd-1.1-1.mipseb.rpm buici-0.3.4-1.mipseb.rpm bzip-0.21-3.mipseb.rpm bzip-man-0.21-3.mipseb.rpm bzip-man-gz-0.21-3.mipseb.rpm bzip2-0.1pl2-2.mipseb.rpm cam-1.02-1.mipseb.rpm cfengine-1.4.9-1.mipseb.rpm cflow-2.0-3.mipseb.rpm chitex-6.0.7-1.mipseb.rpm ctags-2.0.3-1.mipseb.rpm cvs-1.9.26-1.mipseb.rpm cweb-3.4g-1.mipseb.rpm dbanner-1.02-7.mipseb.rpm dbview-1.0.0-4.mipseb.rpm dhcp-2.0b1pl0-3.mipseb.rpm dhcp-client-2.0b1pl0-3.mipseb.rpm dhcpd-2.0b1pl0-1.mipseb.rpm dhcpd-client-2.0b1pl0-1.mipseb.rpm diald-0.16-3.mipseb.rpm dlh-0.7d-1.mipseb.rpm e2fsprogs-1.10.e2c040-1.mipseb.rpm e2fsprogs-devel-1.10.e2c040-1.mipseb.rpm enigma-1.2-3.mipseb.rpm enlightenment-themes-BETA_0.13-1.mipseb.rpm enscript-1.5.0-3.mipseb.rpm fdutils-5.2-3.mipseb.rpm fntutl-1.40-5.mipseb.rpm freetype-1.0-2.mipseb.rpm freetype-devel-1.0-2.mipseb.rpm freetype-progs-1.0-2.mipseb.rpm freeze-2.5-3.mipseb.rpm fsgrab-1.1-1.mipseb.rpm From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 12:46:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3704702 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19757765 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA19550266 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA15066 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11605 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:43:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA08286; Mon, 4 May 1998 21:42:52 +0200 Message-ID: <19980504214252.14493@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:42:52 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: rpm-list@redhat.com, SGI Linux , support@cobaltmicro.com, tim@cobaltmicro.com Subject: Re: CobaltMicro's Qube. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 02:48:01PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 926 Lines: 19 On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 02:48:01PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > A while back we produced the big endian mips (mipseb) architecture for > machines such as SGIs. This was especially important because of the SGI > port actively releasing binaries only in RPM format. > > Because (we thought) there were more packages that were in fact more big > endian labelled as 'mips', we kept 4 as mipseb, and made a new mipsel > (#11). I suggested that because I thought the only mipseb/mipsel packages > were produced by specific people: Ralf, Alan and myself. I just hadn't > thought about Cobalt, and nobody at Cobalt piped up to complain when we > were throwing the idea around. The same applies also in the opposite direction. Again, in order to be on the safe side we _had_ to change the extension used in package names and the architecture id. In short again, the situation isn't really nice but not too bad either. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 4 12:46:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA3728267 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA20023579 for linux-list; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA19376096 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA16040 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:45:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA21132; Mon, 4 May 1998 15:45:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries Reply-To: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: tim@cobaltmicro.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hanging. In-Reply-To: <19980504213205.32754@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1164 Lines: 27 On Mon, 4 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I cc this to Tim. DaveM is also reading this list, so they'll know. > The problem isn't too bad. Once new rpm binaries have been installed > those > will know about mipsel/mipseb. And we _had_ to break compatibility, > remember the purpose was to make the two flavours and the old ``mips'' > flavour different and distinguishable from each other. Yes. We had to break compatibility. It's just disappointing that the SGI-Linux, Cobalt Micro and RPM flks disn't come to a consensus on it. And really, I'm not laying blame, I'm trying to find a solution to it. Right now, Qube users will have the following problems: - they will build RPMs that are tagged as arch 4, which isn't in line with the standard that RPM and SGI-Linux agreed to - they will have to use --ignorearch when installing contribbed RPMs - RPM will not complain when installing incompatible mipseb packages Even if the Cobalt ships and update with RPM 2.4.109 or similiar: - the binaries that Cobalt already ships with (and I assume they do) will have to be regenerated We really need some input from Cobalt on this issue. Tim? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 5 09:58:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA16540 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA20610185 for linux-list; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA20272281 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA04176 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:56:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18493 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:56:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:56:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: /src/web? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 456 Lines: 15 Hm. On Linus, the WWW server seems to be down, and everything in /src/web is gone, the directory included. The machine was rebooted about 15 hours ago, and /src didn't come up. Could somebody please fix that? I've gotten about half a dozen inquiries about the statbility after the RPM announcement yesterday... - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 5 09:59:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA16554 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA19530936 for linux-list; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA20569044 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA04745 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 09:58:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18540 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 12:58:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:58:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Re: /src/web? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 328 Lines: 11 On Tue, 5 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > Hm. On Linus, the WWW server seems to be down, and everything in /src/web > is gone, the directory included. The machine was rebooted about 15 hours > ago, and /src didn't come up. Just ot make things clearer, /dev/dsk/xlv/xlv0 wasn't mounted as /src on the last boot up. - alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 5 10:52:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA17444 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA20619707 for linux-list; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA19332277 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA27435 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 10:49:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-23.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.23]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29072 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:49:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10818; Tue, 5 May 1998 19:49:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19980505194944.02281@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:49:44 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: /src/web? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Tue, May 05, 1998 at 12:58:30PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 535 Lines: 14 On Tue, May 05, 1998 at 12:58:30PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > Hm. On Linus, the WWW server seems to be down, and everything in /src/web > > is gone, the directory included. The machine was rebooted about 15 hours > > ago, and /src didn't come up. > > Just ot make things clearer, /dev/dsk/xlv/xlv0 wasn't mounted as /src on > the last boot up. Hinv shows that the disks haven't been detected. I've rebooted the machine and now the 4 disks of the disk array are back online. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 04:06:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA162164 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA21066947 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA19827451 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 04:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id MAA03903; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:06:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 12:06:03 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: SGI Linux Subject: Missing something obvious? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1306 Lines: 32 Hi, Apologies for launching in with nowt but a question but I'm obviously missing something on the SGI Linux installation... I've downloaded a built kernel, root-be-0.03.cpio and the installer prog, built a filesystem, got the files on etc. and can boot to single user. The question is; "Where do I go from here?". On the one hand I have the kernel source, a gcc RPM, glibc tarball etc. and on the other a machine with a _bare_ bones system (i.e. won't get to init 2 as no scripts on /etc/rc2.d/, mount fails to mount /etc/fstab entries prompting rc.sysinit hacking etc...) Before this degenrates into whine about the maintainance/recency of info on www.linux.sgi.com [1] some info on how to get to the next step would be well appreciated. In fact just URLS to the right places would get me started and leave you all to the important kernel hackery :) Cheers for any help. Leon [1] If you need a maintainer for this lot then I'd be willing to give it a shot... I did wonder if the project was dead myself. -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 07:54:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA165155 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA18192879 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA21147843 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA29335 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 07:53:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17390; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:53:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:53:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Leon Verrall cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Missing something obvious? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1086 Lines: 28 On Wed, 6 May 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: > Apologies for launching in with nowt but a question but I'm obviously > missing something on the SGI Linux installation... > I've downloaded a built kernel, root-be-0.03.cpio and the installer prog, > built a filesystem, got the files on etc. and can boot to single user. The > question is; "Where do I go from here?". On the one hand I have the kernel > source, a gcc RPM, glibc tarball etc. and on the other a machine with a > _bare_ bones system (i.e. won't get to init 2 as no scripts on /etc/rc2.d/, > mount fails to mount /etc/fstab entries prompting rc.sysinit hacking etc...) Leon, I doubt there's anyone on this list that can defend the clarity of the documentation on the WWW site. The next goal is this: download all the RPMs, and install them via FTP. You can get the RPMs themselves from ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/hurricane/ or similiar. Those packages make up something like 80% of Red Hat 5.0. When looking for the RPMs, remember that SGIs use 'mipseb' binaries, NOT mipsel. And, let us know how it goes. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 10:42:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA171140 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA20848194 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21304426 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu (azure.engin.umich.edu [141.212.78.14]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA10706 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jwelling@engin.umich.edu) Received: from localhost (jwelling@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA29401; Wed, 6 May 1998 13:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 13:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy John Welling To: Leon Verrall cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Missing something obvious? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2062 Lines: 49 I agree, I have an Indy at home, and would not hesitate in getting a second disk for linux, except that it sounds like a royal pain to get up and running due to lack of documentation. I know a working port with no docs is better than a non-working w/docs, but I don't think it would take much effort to keep an up-to-date set of installation instructions. Also, an update on the status of the Xserver would be appreciated. A) which will take less work to get up and running- xfree, Xsgi _or_ is GGI an option? B) What exactly needs done on the one closest to completion? I'm willing to help, if it sounds like I can. Thanks, Jeremy Welling On Wed, 6 May 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: > > Hi, > > Apologies for launching in with nowt but a question but I'm obviously > missing something on the SGI Linux installation... > > I've downloaded a built kernel, root-be-0.03.cpio and the installer prog, > built a filesystem, got the files on etc. and can boot to single user. The > question is; "Where do I go from here?". On the one hand I have the kernel > source, a gcc RPM, glibc tarball etc. and on the other a machine with a > _bare_ bones system (i.e. won't get to init 2 as no scripts on /etc/rc2.d/, > mount fails to mount /etc/fstab entries prompting rc.sysinit hacking etc...) > > Before this degenrates into whine about the maintainance/recency of info on > www.linux.sgi.com [1] some info on how to get to the next step would be well > appreciated. In fact just URLS to the right places would get me started and > leave you all to the important kernel hackery :) > > Cheers for any help. > > Leon > > > [1] If you need a maintainer for this lot then I'd be willing to give it a > shot... I did wonder if the project was dead myself. > > -- > Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, > Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. > Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all > Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) > > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 14:49:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA177870 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA21337757 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA21412555 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.41]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA24516 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (LetherGlov@aol.com) Received: from LetherGlov@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id 4BUPa17470 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:47:18 -0400 (EDT) From: LetherGlov Message-ID: <241b93b5.3550da68@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:47:18 EDT To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: WW and X Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 482 Lines: 11 Here's the scoop....the project isn't dead it's just that editing WWW pages in vi isn't the greatest fun and as I understand it with X, Miguel was working on getting Xsgi running on top of linux, instead of compiling XFree, but he's working on gnome mostly right now, so that's just hanging around, also one of the problems is that the indy docs don't document where the mouse connects to the system, so even if you got X working you wouldn't have a mouse. -- Robbie Stone From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 14:55:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA178695 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA21185800 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA18651047; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA08978; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:53:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:53:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199805062153.OAA08978@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: LetherGlov Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: WW and X In-Reply-To: <241b93b5.3550da68@aol.com> References: <241b93b5.3550da68@aol.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 690 Lines: 13 LetherGlov@aol.com writes: > > Here's the scoop....the project isn't dead it's just that editing WWW > pages in vi isn't the greatest fun and as I understand it with X, Miguel was > working on getting Xsgi running on top of linux, instead of compiling XFree, > but he's working on gnome mostly right now, so that's just hanging around, > also one of the problems is that the indy docs don't document where the mouse > connects to the system, so even if you got X working you wouldn't have a > mouse. The mouse connects to the other port of the keyboard/mouse controller. As far as I know, it is bug-compatible with the usual PC PS/2-style keyboard/mouse controller. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 6 17:17:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA184025 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20800636 for linux-list; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA21515786; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA10832; Wed, 6 May 1998 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199805070014.RAA10832@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Missing something obvious? To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: leon@reading.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at May 6, 98 10:53:06 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1360 Lines: 40 : : :On Wed, 6 May 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: :> Apologies for launching in with nowt but a question but I'm obviously :> missing something on the SGI Linux installation... :> I've downloaded a built kernel, root-be-0.03.cpio and the installer prog, :> built a filesystem, got the files on etc. and can boot to single user. The :> question is; "Where do I go from here?". On the one hand I have the kernel :> source, a gcc RPM, glibc tarball etc. and on the other a machine with a :> _bare_ bones system (i.e. won't get to init 2 as no scripts on /etc/rc2.d/, :> mount fails to mount /etc/fstab entries prompting rc.sysinit hacking etc...) : :Leon, : : I doubt there's anyone on this list that can defend the clarity of :the documentation on the WWW site. : : The next goal is this: download all the RPMs, and install them via :FTP. You can get the RPMs themselves from :ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/hurricane/ or similiar. Those packages make :up something like 80% of Red Hat 5.0. : : When looking for the RPMs, remember that SGIs use 'mipseb' :binaries, NOT mipsel. : : And, let us know how it goes. : :- Alex : Do we have a volunteer who has gone through the process and can update the HOWTO ? If the volunteer doesn't have ssh access to linus, just email me the public key and desired username and (s)he'll be granted access. Thanks! -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 01:28:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA208205 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA21387595 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 01:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id BAA19719524; Thu, 7 May 1998 01:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id JAA01996; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:27:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 09:27:05 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: Ariel Faigon cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Missing something obvious? In-Reply-To: <199805070014.RAA10832@oz.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1082 Lines: 34 On Wed, 6 May 1998, Ariel Faigon wrote: > :Leon, > : > : I doubt there's anyone on this list that can defend the clarity of > :the documentation on the WWW site. > : > : The next goal is this: download all the RPMs, and install them via > :FTP. You can get the RPMs themselves from > :ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/hurricane/ or similiar. Those packages make > :up something like 80% of Red Hat 5.0. > : > : When looking for the RPMs, remember that SGIs use 'mipseb' > :binaries, NOT mipsel. > : > : And, let us know how it goes. > : > :- Alex > : > > Do we have a volunteer who has gone through the process > and can update the HOWTO ? Once I've gone through it I'd be happy to document it. Just in the process of dragging down all the RPMS I need. dependancies, dependancies... Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 02:41:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA208873 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA21353442 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA21651377 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com ([199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id CAA28257 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 02:40:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA01315; Thu, 7 May 1998 05:39:12 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 05:39:11 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Making Progress X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13649.32330.450233.955385@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 570 Lines: 21 Trying to boot the kernel (2.1.90) I can now get beyond the SCSI detection stage but now it stops at this point: Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. Partition check: I'm not connected to a network; can I bypass the ethernet check? My root drive is recognized as sdb, but the installer procedure was the only preparation I gave it. Until now it has been my external IRIX drive. Is there something I need to do first with fx? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 12:38:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA255828 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA21706448 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA21773454 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA18717 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07195 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:38:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA05628; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:56:02 +0200 Message-ID: <19980507125602.37504@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:56:02 +0200 To: mdhill@interlog.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Making Progress References: <13649.32330.450233.955385@mdhill.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <13649.32330.450233.955385@mdhill.interlog.com>; from Michael Hill on Thu, May 07, 1998 at 05:39:11AM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 975 Lines: 26 On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 05:39:11AM -0400, Michael Hill wrote: > Trying to boot the kernel (2.1.90) I can now get beyond the SCSI > detection stage but now it stops at this point: > > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! > IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. > Partition check: Try adding ip=none to your boot commandline. This should disable the BOOTP / RARP stuff. Have you given a root=/dev/foo argument to indicate your root device? > I'm not connected to a network; can I bypass the ethernet check? This happens only because your kernel has been built to autoconfigure the network stuff and boot from NFS. If you compiled this kernel yourself, just disable the respective options. > My root drive is recognized as sdb, but the installer procedure was > the only preparation I gave it. Until now it has been my external > IRIX drive. Is there something I need to do first with fx? Adding a partition wouldn't be bad. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 12:38:11 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA255541 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA16498146 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA21159678 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA18663 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07171 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:37:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA05642; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:08:21 +0200 Message-ID: <19980507140821.18614@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:08:21 +0200 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: rpm builders, README Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 269 Lines: 6 I fixed a long standing bug in the ELF loader which was crashing certain types of executables. Ldd is one of them. This causes binary rpm packages to be built without library dependencies. If you've published binary rpms, please rebuild them running 2.1.99. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 12:38:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA254223 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA21746347 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA21922743 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA18473 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:37:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07066 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:37:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10087; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:05:27 +0200 Message-ID: <19980507170526.36594@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:05:26 +0200 To: LetherGlov Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: WW and X References: <241b93b5.3550da68@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <241b93b5.3550da68@aol.com>; from LetherGlov on Wed, May 06, 1998 at 05:47:18PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 711 Lines: 19 On Wed, May 06, 1998 at 05:47:18PM -0400, LetherGlov wrote: > Here's the scoop....the project isn't dead it's just that editing WWW > pages in vi isn't the greatest fun Hm... How about using Emacs' ange-ftp for editing web pages? We could setup things such that we can upload pages into the ftp-accessable web tree. > and as I understand it with X, Miguel was > working on getting Xsgi running on top of linux, instead of compiling XFree, > but he's working on gnome mostly right now, so that's just hanging around, Sigh ... Btw, there is just an X server missing. There is a tarball with the rest of X online which should serve well for most purposes. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 08:24:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA138717 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA21597534 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA21311604 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA25378 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:23:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22824 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:22:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: errors... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 461 Lines: 17 So, I was compiling .99 last night, and my machine hung. I came in this morning, and found reams of errors on the screen, all of which were: Setting flush to zero for patch. Unimplemented exception at 0x004057f0 This is 2.1.91 kernel I got from Ralf. Maybe this is useless, since I'm on my way to running .99 anyway. - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 08:27:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA215710 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA15587918 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA21626336 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA27079 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22908; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:27:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 11:27:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Michael Hill cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Making Progress In-Reply-To: <13649.32330.450233.955385@mdhill.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 519 Lines: 15 On Thu, 7 May 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > Trying to boot the kernel (2.1.90) I can now get beyond the SCSI > detection stage but now it stops at this point: > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! > IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. > Partition check: Hm. The bootup actually stops at that point? It doesn't identify any partitions or complain about any errors? This sounds like a SCSI problem to me. In theory, you should be able to boot with 'vmlinux root=/dev/sdb'. - alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 08:53:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA216734 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA16845240 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA12917056 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA08848 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:52:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24547; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:52:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id RAA20258; Thu, 7 May 1998 17:52:05 +0200 Message-ID: <19980507175205.27567@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:52:05 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: errors... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Thu, May 07, 1998 at 11:22:58AM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 30 On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 11:22:58AM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > So, I was compiling .99 last night, and my machine hung. I came in this > morning, and found reams of errors on the screen, all of which were: > > Setting flush to zero for patch. > Unimplemented exception at 0x004057f0 Still lacking the kernel math code for MIPS I implemented a cruel hack. If we catch an unimplemented exception and flush-to-zero is cleared, we set it and retry the instruction. If flush-to-zero is already set, the problem is beyond what we can deal with ... The only mysterious thing for me is right now why patch is using floating point. Whatever, this error message is not directly related to the hang, it's more telling people that fp results might be inaccurate or wrong. Anybody with floating point experience and time to write this stuff? What we need is basically a subset of a coprozessor emulation; there is example code available in the NetBSD, OpenBSD and MACH MIPS assembler code; the Sparc64 code is even written in C. > This is 2.1.91 kernel I got from Ralf. Maybe this is useless, since I'm > on my way to running .99 anyway. I'm interested to hear if .99 hangs again for you. All I can say is that I tested .99 by recompiling libc and that crashed ``No space left on device'', so it must be good ;-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 10:05:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA224716 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA21426044 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21632857 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca (sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca [204.225.88.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id KAA09075 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: (qmail 4669 invoked from network); 7 May 1998 17:01:50 -0000 Received: from onramp.ca (root@204.225.88.3) by sagittarius.tor.onramp.ca with SMTP; 7 May 1998 17:01:50 -0000 Received: from bart.hgeng.com(imail.hgeng.com[199.246.72.233]) (1855 bytes) by onramp.ca via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:01:49 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #11 built 1997-Oct-23) Received: by BART with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C126253@BART> From: Mike Hill To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: Making Progress Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:11:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1311 Lines: 39 This is booting with /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb. I'm at work at the moment, so I'm not in front of the Indy. I didn't transcribe the rest, but as I recall, hard drive model and size are reported (correctly) for sda and sdb, followed by a line with Dave Miller's address. The three lines I did write out came next. My previous two boot attempts got hung up before the network detection, seemingly because of the floptical and CD drives. I yanked out the first and switched off the second. Should I be doing something to partition sdb? Thanks, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex deVries [SMTP:adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca] > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 1998 11:27 AM > To: Michael Hill > Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: Re: Making Progress > > On Thu, 7 May 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > > Trying to boot the kernel (2.1.90) I can now get beyond the SCSI > > detection stage but now it stops at this point: > > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! > > IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. > > Partition check: > > Hm. The bootup actually stops at that point? It doesn't identify any > partitions or complain about any errors? This sounds like a SCSI > problem > to me. > > In theory, you should be able to boot with 'vmlinux root=/dev/sdb'. > > - alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 10:18:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA228011 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA21277526 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA21774261 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA16790 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA27074; Thu, 7 May 1998 13:16:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Mike Hill cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: Making Progress In-Reply-To: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C126253@BART> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 377 Lines: 11 On Thu, 7 May 1998, Mike Hill wrote: > I'm at work at the moment, so I'm not in front of the Indy. I didn't > transcribe the rest, but as I recall, hard drive model and size are > reported (correctly) for sda and sdb, followed by a line with Dave > Miller's address. The three lines I did write out came next. Hmmm. Odd. Can you give us the results of a 'hinv'? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 10:24:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA227976 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA21225654 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA17232911 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA19276 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 10:21:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00541; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:21:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id TAA23907; Thu, 7 May 1998 19:21:46 +0200 Message-ID: <19980507192145.65233@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:21:45 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: "David S. Miller" Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: errors... References: <19980507175205.27567@uni-koblenz.de> <199805071609.JAA02646@dm.cobaltmicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199805071609.JAA02646@dm.cobaltmicro.com>; from David S. Miller on Thu, May 07, 1998 at 09:09:46AM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1069 Lines: 23 On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 09:09:46AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > Ralf did you fix GLIBC to init the FPU csr correctly? It should be > set to zero, and the code we had originally did not do this, it set it > to a bunch of values which induced traps for operations where they > shouldn't by default. I fixed this in the Cobalt glibc tree a long > time ago and we have no FPU emulator code in the kernel. I've just taken a look at the sources and found that the various architectures seem to handle this issue differently by default. Sparc disables the exceptions, Intel enables all IEEE754 exceptions, MIPS only division by zero and overflow and Alpha handles things a bit different anyway ... Seems there still is no common dominator on what should be default and I don't think either 0x00000600 or 0x0 is clearly right or wrong. Ok, without the kernel fp stuff zero is somewhat better, so I'm going to use it. From the kernel side new born processes default to $fcr31=0 already. Whatever, this smells like making a kludge just a little bit better ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 11:01:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA234117 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA21788581 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA14080776 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA06748 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28339 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 14:00:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: rs_cons_hook() ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 742 Lines: 27 in drivers/char/console.c, there's a reference to rs_cons_hook() that looks like: #ifdef CONFIG_SGI if (serial_console) { ... rs_cons_hook(0, 0, serial_console); rs_cons_hook(0, 1, serial_console); ... #endif ... and the final link complains that it can't find rs_cons_hook defined anywhere. That's because I'm not compiling in drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c (which has other linking errors, and is another problem, but you should be able to compile in console support without having to have compiled in SGI serial support). So, should that #ifdef in console.c not be SGI_SERIAL? - Alex -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 12:47:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA257173 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA15438099 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA21129529; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA15314; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199805071946.MAA15314@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: [fwd bounced] Re: errors To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1656 Lines: 48 This important email came from David Miller. It bounced since david apparently changed email addresses (David, you are subscribed as: davem@caip.rutgers.edu rather than: davem@cobaltmicro.com You may unsub/resub yourself to fix it, it is open) Anyway, here it is, so the list can see it: ----- Forwarded message from owner-linux@cthulhu ----- From: "David S. Miller" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19980507192145.65233@uni-koblenz.de> (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Subject: Re: errors... References: <19980507175205.27567@uni-koblenz.de> <199805071609.JAA02646@dm.cobaltmicro.com> <19980507192145.65233@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:21:45 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de I've just taken a look at the sources and found that the various architectures seem to handle this issue differently by default. Sparc disables the exceptions, Intel enables all IEEE754 exceptions, MIPS only division by zero and overflow and Alpha handles things a bit different anyway ... Seems there still is no common dominator on what should be default and I don't think either 0x00000600 or 0x0 is clearly right or wrong. Log into an IRIX machine, compile a program that prints out the FPU csr value you see handed to you in main(), 'nuff said, it's zero, and this is what I did. All the weird FPU exceptions go away and everyone is happy. Later, David S. Miller davem@dm.cobaltmicro.com ----- End of forwarded message from owner-linux@cthulhu ----- -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 7 12:55:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA258399 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA21722908 for linux-list; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA20678230 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA24718 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 12:54:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA31498; Thu, 7 May 1998 15:48:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 15:48:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: rpm builders, README In-Reply-To: <19980507140821.18614@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 407 Lines: 12 On Thu, 7 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I fixed a long standing bug in the ELF loader which was crashing certain > types of executables. Ldd is one of them. This causes binary rpm > packages to be built without library dependencies. If you've published > binary rpms, please rebuild them running 2.1.99. FWIW, I will _NOT_ be doing a report of the RPMs until I get RH 5.1 source RPMs. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 01:10:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA46593 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA20865024 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA20142418 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA28675 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 01:08:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id IAA00678; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:22:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:22:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Alex deVries cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: rs_cons_hook() ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 423 Lines: 13 > > ... and the final link complains that it can't find rs_cons_hook defined > anywhere. That's because I'm not compiling in > drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c (which has other linking errors, and is > another problem, but you should be able to compile in console support > without having to have compiled in SGI serial support). > you need SGI serial support (sgi/char/sgiserial.c) for the serial console support .. o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 02:50:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA56151 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA21461866 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA22106595 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id CAA17220 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA01399; Fri, 8 May 1998 05:48:27 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 05:48:26 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: Making Progress In-Reply-To: References: <60222E63C9F4D011915F00A02435011C126253@BART> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13650.53876.373554.664836@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1293 Lines: 45 Alex deVries writes: > > Hmmm. Odd. Can you give us the results of a 'hinv'? > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Main memory size: 32 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0 Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Here's this morning's result from 'boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb ip=none': [snip] scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1070496 [522 MB] [0.5 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2400302 [1172 MB] [1.2 GB] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e3:0d Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. Partition check: [end] Next I'll try adding a partition to be checked. Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:01:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA63739 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA21846606 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA22113885 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA00311 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 03:58:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA21159 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:58:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 06:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: My .99 oops... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 959 Lines: 35 Alright. I rebooted with my home grown version of .99, and here's what I got on bootup: ... Checking for 'wait' instruction... available POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Starting kswapd v 1.5 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 00000000, ra == 880d0cb8 Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 88120018 00000000 00000040 $4 : 00000002 00000006 01000004 8811d080 $8 : 00000020 881064f0 00000000 00000000 $12: 00000008 000001c2 883c56d4 883dea4c $16: 00000001 8817206c 8817204c 00000004 $20: ffffffff 9fc56394 00000000 9fc56394 $24: 00000001 0000000f $28: 883dc000 883dde10 9fc4be88 880d0cb8 epc : 000000000 Status: 1000fc03 Cause : 00000008 My guess is it's that I enabled the floppy drive (as it came as the default). I'll remove that, recompile and reboot. - A -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:17:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA65372 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA21611880 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA20560349 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA03513 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:15:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA21387 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:15:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:15:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Re: My .99 oops... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 548 Lines: 18 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > Checking for 'wait' instruction... available > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX > Starting kswapd v 1.5 > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == > My guess is it's that I enabled the floppy drive (as it came as the > default). I'll remove that, recompile and reboot. Alright, I removed floppy support and recompiled, and everything is okay now. Now, I'll compile loads of contrib RPMs and we'll see how well this floats. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:38:33 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA67413 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA22067605 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA11527819 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA07984 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA21746; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:36:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:36:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Michael Hill cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: Making Progress In-Reply-To: <13650.53876.373554.664836@mdhill.interlog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1022 Lines: 34 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Michael Hill wrote: > Alex deVries writes: > > Hmmm. Odd. Can you give us the results of a 'hinv'? > Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 > 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor > FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 > CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 Hm. that looks okay to me. > Here's this morning's result from 'boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb > ip=none': > [snip] > scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1070496 [522 MB] > [0.5 GB] > SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2400302 [1172 MB] > [1.2 GB] > sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e3:0d > Sending BOOTP and RARP requests............. timed out! > IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. > Partition check: It's still doing bootp/rarp, which is weird. Can you try the kernel that's in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.99.tar.gz ? This doesn't have bootp enabled. - alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:38:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA67425 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA20395197 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA21451720 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA08071 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:37:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21762 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:37:31 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11954; Fri, 8 May 1998 13:37:13 +0200 Message-ID: <19980508133713.20895@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 13:37:13 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: My .99 oops... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Fri, May 08, 1998 at 07:15:36AM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 607 Lines: 17 On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 07:15:36AM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Fri, 8 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > Checking for 'wait' instruction... available > > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX > > Starting kswapd v 1.5 > > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M > > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == > > My guess is it's that I enabled the floppy drive (as it came as the > > default). I'll remove that, recompile and reboot. > > Alright, I removed floppy support and recompiled, and everything is okay > now. Ok, I'll make the floppy driver bulletproof also... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:43:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA67495 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA22068665 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA21431714 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA08993 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:42:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA21782; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:42:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Oliver Frommel cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: rs_cons_hook() ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1427 Lines: 61 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > ... and the final link complains that it can't find rs_cons_hook defined > > anywhere. That's because I'm not compiling in > > drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c (which has other linking errors, and is > > another problem, but you should be able to compile in console support > > without having to have compiled in SGI serial support). > you need SGI serial support (sgi/char/sgiserial.c) for the serial console > support .. Except I don't have CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE in my .config ... see below. I'm pretty sure my recommended change is correct. I am going to have a look at my sgiserial.c compile problems, too. - Alex # # Character devices # CONFIG_VT=y CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y # CONFIG_SERIAL is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set # CONFIG_PRINTER is not set # CONFIG_MOUSE is not set CONFIG_UMISC=y # CONFIG_SGI_GRAPHICS is not set # CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set # CONFIG_APM is not set # CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set # CONFIG_RTC is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set # CONFIG_NVRAM is not set # CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set # CONFIG_MISC_RADIO is not set # # Ftape, the floppy tape device driver # # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set # # Sound # # CONFIG_SOUND is not set # # SGI Character devices # # CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL is not set # # Kernel hacking # CONFIG_CROSSCOMPILE=y # CONFIG_REMOTE_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_PROFILE is not set From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 04:53:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA68680 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA22070505 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA22152440 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA11369 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 04:52:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA21911 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 07:52:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Re: My .99 oops... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 409 Lines: 14 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > Alright, I removed floppy support and recompiled, and everything is okay > now. > Now, I'll compile loads of contrib RPMs and we'll see how well this > floats. Sweet Jesus, this is looking really, really stable. Oh, thank God these couple of weeks of 30 minute uptimes are over... Next on the list: is the glibc in RH 5.1 going to build cleanly for MIPS? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 08:09:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA90402 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA20816431 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA21551235 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA08068 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:05:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id PAA12741; Fri, 8 May 1998 15:19:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:19:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Alex deVries cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: rs_cons_hook() ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 855 Lines: 27 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > > On Fri, 8 May 1998, Oliver Frommel wrote: > > > ... and the final link complains that it can't find rs_cons_hook defined > > > anywhere. That's because I'm not compiling in > > > drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c (which has other linking errors, and is > > > another problem, but you should be able to compile in console support > > > without having to have compiled in SGI serial support). > > > you need SGI serial support (sgi/char/sgiserial.c) for the serial console > > support .. > > Except I don't have CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE in my .config ... see below. > I'm pretty sure my recommended change is correct. > CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is for i386 only as far as i could figure out .. this is what i have in my -working- kernel: # CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL=y CONFIG_SERIAL=y o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 06:26:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA77444 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA21576369 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA22056794 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id OAA04584; Fri, 8 May 1998 14:24:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 14:24:27 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: SGI Linux Subject: More idiocy.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 618 Lines: 16 OK, wher are the non customer RPMS for big endian MIPS/noarch i.e. things like initfiles, inetd etc... I think my install is going to fly I just need to find the packages I'm missing. I think I may look through my install procedure and see if I can come up witha minimal list of RPMS that install without conflicts... Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 06:36:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA78989 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA18050726 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA21291310 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA06706 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:34:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24220 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:34:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:34:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: damn... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1580 Lines: 46 I have a couple of problems with .99, but they're not nearly as bad as before. No more hanging, anyway. - again, talking to sdc (and only sdc, not sdb). I had two problems: - when e2fsck'ing a badly broken disk, I got a couple thosand panics on the screen. Sorry, I didn't write the error down. - when doing a lot of IO on the disk: page fault from irq handler: 0000 $0 : 00000000 1000fc00 00001000 ffffffe0 $4 : 00000020 00000000 1000fc00 00000001 $8 : 1000fc00 1000001f 883185e0 88142618 $12: 00000001 1000fc01 80000000 00000001 $16: 00000000 00001000 a83db020 883d9c00 $20: 00000002 bfbc0003 1fffffff bfb90000 $24: 00000002 2aac92d0 $28: 88008000 88009d28 883cae70 880f23ec epc : 88020e80 Status: 1000fc02 Cause : 00000008 Aiee, killing interrupt handler Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task! In swapper task - not syncing - user space stuff, in glibc I think, init seg faulted Sure, 99 isn't perfect, but it's a lot nicer than it was. I can't tell you how pleasant it is now that I don't havethese hangs. And I can completely get rid of any problems if I just don't use sdc. Hmmm... this has me thinking that maybe my disk is toast, which would be disappointing, since compiling all this stuff is much nicer with 4GB of disk space instead of 1. I'll be off to run a half marathon and visiting my Mom in sunny Ottawa, Canada this weekend, so I won't have a chance to do much more debugging/nit picking. - A -- Alex deVries "romantic engsoc guy who runs marathons" - csilcock@chat.carleton.ca http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 06:47:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA80122 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA22063154 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA22171872 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA10172 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24426; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:45:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Leon Verrall cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: More idiocy.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 341 Lines: 14 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: > OK, wher are the non customer RPMS for big endian MIPS/noarch i.e. things > like initfiles, inetd etc... ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/redhat-5.0/RPMS Make sure you choose mipseb and noarch. Let me know how it goes. You may want to make excessive use of '--nodeps' and '--force'. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 8 08:12:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA90850 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA22187517 for linux-list; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA22296392 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA10976 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA26521; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:11:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Oliver Frommel cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: rs_cons_hook() ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 688 Lines: 24 On Fri, 8 May 1998, Oliver Frommel wrote: > CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is for i386 only as far as i could figure out .. Hmmm. I'm not entirely sure that makes sense. Shouldn't serial consoles be architecture independant? > this is what i have in my -working- kernel: > # CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set > CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL=y > CONFIG_SERIAL=y ... and I get a lot of compile errors when I try to compile with CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL=y, so I'm forced to turn it off, which is what gives me errors. In any case, there's a problem because you should be able to compile a kernel with enabling SGI_SERIAL. The problems with sgiserial.c also need to be looked at. I'll sort this out... - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 9 06:27:40 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA41201 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA22599183 for linux-list; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA21125621 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA09771 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:25:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id NAA19331; Sat, 9 May 1998 13:39:50 +0200 Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:39:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Alex deVries cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: rs_cons_hook() ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 321 Lines: 13 > > In any case, there's a problem because you should be able to compile a > kernel with enabling SGI_SERIAL. > > The problems with sgiserial.c also need to be looked at. I'll sort this > out... > i just checked out the cvs version from sgi.com and it compiled out of the box. which problems do have exactly?? o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 9 20:08:51 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA50318 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA16801079 for linux-list; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA22495054 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id UAA03174 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 20:06:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA02041; Sat, 9 May 1998 23:05:23 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:05:22 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1925 Lines: 59 Using the pre-compiled 2.1.99 from Linus (thanks, Alex) here are my results. The drive is (and was) partitioned as option drive, and I re-ran Installer. Entering 'boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb' I get this: [snip] scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1070496 [522 MB] [0.5 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2400302 [1172 MB] [1.2 GB] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e3:0d Partition check: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 fat_read_super: Did not find valid FSINFO signature. Found 0x0 [MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0, check=n,conv=b,uid=o,gid=0,umask=022,bmap] [me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=8199,ts=524288,ls=30825,rc=0,fc=0] Transaction block size = 512 However, with 'boot /vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1' I get this: [snip] scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1070496 [522 MB] [0.5 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2400302 [1172 MB] [1.2 GB] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:07:e3:0d Partition check: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 32k freed INIT: version 2.71 booting Activating swap partitions hostname: localhost Checking root filesystems. WARNING: Your /etc/fstab does not contain the fsck passno field. I will kludge around things for you, but you should fix your /etc/fstab file as soon as you can. Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) [/sbin/fsck.ext2] fsck.ext2 -a / ..and then nothing. But the main reason I believe that the SGI/Linux project is not dead is that, for the first time, the kernel made my hard drive chatter at me before giving up the ghost. Who knows what I should do next? Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 10 12:23:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA87950 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA23163116 for linux-list; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA22302029 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id MAA20898 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA01460; Sun, 10 May 1998 15:20:33 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:20:32 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report In-Reply-To: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> References: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13653.59491.302730.251578@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1097 Lines: 29 Okay, let's say it was just fsck that got hung up, and not the entire boot process. When it stops with '[/sbin/fsck.ext2] fsck.ext2 -a /' and I press Ctrl-C, more information comes to light: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else, the the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 *** An error occurred during the file system check. *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot *** when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance. INIT: entering runlevel: 0mal startup): while opening UTMP file: No such file or directory ...then I get the SGI maintenance screen back. There's no evidence of a shell when it tells me it's dropping me to a shell. From IRIX I ran 'e2fsck -b 8193 drive' on the drive (with no improvement) but I don't think that's the appropriate context. Suggestions? Thanks, Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 10 20:26:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA97633 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 20:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA23003737 for linux-list; Sun, 10 May 1998 20:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA23019927 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id XAA22594; Sun, 10 May 1998 23:24:19 -0400 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA04659; Sun, 10 May 1998 23:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35566E3B.109CCAA3@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:19:23 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mdhill@interlog.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report References: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> <13653.59491.302730.251578@mdhill.interlog.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2149 Lines: 57 I had the exact same problem - I needed to re-make the ext2fs filesystem on the drive and re-perform the install for it to get further. Eric. Michael Hill wrote: > > Okay, let's say it was just fsck that got hung up, and not the entire > boot process. When it stops with '[/sbin/fsck.ext2] fsck.ext2 -a /' > and I press Ctrl-C, more information comes to light: > > The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 > filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 > filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else, the the superblock > is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: > e2fsck -b 8193 > *** An error occurred during the file system check. > *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot > *** when you leave the shell. > Give root password for maintenance. > INIT: entering runlevel: 0mal startup): > while opening UTMP file: No such file or directory > > ...then I get the SGI maintenance screen back. There's no evidence of > a shell when it tells me it's dropping me to a shell. From IRIX I ran > 'e2fsck -b 8193 drive' on the drive (with no improvement) but I don't > think that's the appropriate context. Suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Mike > -- > Michael Hill > Toronto, Canada > mdhill@interlog.com -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" Copyright 1998, Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Confidential to Silicon Graphics Computer Systems ** -- not for redistribution -- ** From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 11 01:19:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA103248 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA23172026 for linux-list; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA23249812 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA12132 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:18:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-01.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.1]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25547 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 10:17:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01311; Mon, 11 May 1998 09:33:15 +0200 Message-ID: <19980511093314.12884@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:33:14 +0200 To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Cc: mdhill@interlog.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report References: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> <13653.59491.302730.251578@mdhill.interlog.com> <35566E3B.109CCAA3@detroit.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <35566E3B.109CCAA3@detroit.sgi.com>; from Eric Kimminau on Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:19:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1848 Lines: 45 On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:19:23PM -0400, Eric Kimminau wrote: > I had the exact same problem - I needed to re-make the ext2fs > filesystem on the drive and re-perform the install for it to get > further. > > Eric. > > > Michael Hill wrote: > > > > Okay, let's say it was just fsck that got hung up, and not the entire > > boot process. When it stops with '[/sbin/fsck.ext2] fsck.ext2 -a /' > > and I press Ctrl-C, more information comes to light: > > > > The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 > > filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 > > filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else, the the superblock > > is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: > > e2fsck -b 8193 > > *** An error occurred during the file system check. > > *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot > > *** when you leave the shell. > > Give root password for maintenance. > > INIT: entering runlevel: 0mal startup): > > while opening UTMP file: No such file or directory > > > > ...then I get the SGI maintenance screen back. There's no evidence of > > a shell when it tells me it's dropping me to a shell. From IRIX I ran > > 'e2fsck -b 8193 drive' on the drive (with no improvement) but I don't > > think that's the appropriate context. Suggestions? Both cases sound like a bad /etc/fstab. Try adding init=/bin/sh to your firmware command like arguments. You'll get a completly uninitialized system. Run e2fsck, then you should be able to remount / rw and fix the fstab. > Copyright 1998, Silicon Graphics Computer Systems > Confidential to Silicon Graphics Computer Systems > ** -- not for redistribution -- ** And that in a .sig. ROTFL. But at least Amy Postnews would love such a sig :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 12 21:38:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA19706 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA23992709 for linux-list; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA23987126 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA25848 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA20572 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 00:37:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Installer changes... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 686 Lines: 25 As per Mike Shaver's suggestions, I've made some changes to root-be (now version 0.04), which affects Linux-installer (now version 0.2). The changes listed are below. Tehy're all in teh GettingStarted directory. root-be chnages include adding ftp, libncurses and /etc/protocols, /etc/services and /etc/termcap. There's also now a script in /etc/rc.d which creates new sd* devices if they aren't created already. - Alex This is a package to install SGI/Linux from within Irix. Changes ------- 0.2 May 13 1998 Alex deVries - fixed some things in root-be, including a script to create /dev/sd* devices on bootup - fixed some INSTALL documentation From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 13 12:28:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA109320 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA22795 for linux-list; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA23433 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA11236 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:26:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11041; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:24:17 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> X-Sender: mjhsieh@140.114.98.21 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 03:25:48 +0800 To: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1298 Lines: 34 At 12:37 AM 1998/5/13 -0400, you wrote: >As per Mike Shaver's suggestions, I've made some changes to root-be (now >version 0.04), which affects Linux-installer (now version 0.2). The >changes listed are below. Tehy're all in teh GettingStarted directory. >root-be chnages include adding ftp, libncurses and /etc/protocols, >/etc/services and /etc/termcap. >There's also now a script in /etc/rc.d which creates new sd* devices if >they aren't created already. I'm sorry if this was discussed in the maillist. Should there be /etc dirctory after I cpio into my partition? I can't find /etc in my linux partition under installer prompt. BTW, I use the kernel in /pub/test/vmlinux-indy-2.1.99.tar.gz and got panic. The "NICE" panic message is: [deleted] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 blah:blah:blah:blah Partition check blah.... blah.... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 32k freed Warning: unable to open an initial console. kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= optional to kernel. [halt] And I use the kernel in GetingStarted directory, and got panic, too. ("should not happened yet") -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 13 12:49:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA113754 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA28203 for linux-list; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA33371 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA19274 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 12:48:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA16040; Wed, 13 May 1998 15:47:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:47:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1039 Lines: 33 On Thu, 14 May 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > I'm sorry if this was discussed in the maillist. > Should there be /etc dirctory after I cpio into my partition? I can't > find /etc in my linux partition under installer prompt. There should be a /etc in the ext2 file system after you run the installer. As far as I know, there is no way to read an ext2 partition from within Irix. But it sounds like you're having problems even booting up... > [deleted] > sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 blah:blah:blah:blah > Partition check > blah.... > blah.... > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. > Freeing unused kernel memory: 32k freed > Warning: unable to open an initial console. > kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= optional to kernel. > [halt] Hm. You might want to run it with 'init=/bin/sh' to skip init. > And I use the kernel in GetingStarted directory, and got panic, too. > ("should not happened yet") I don't know about that. That is Ralf's department. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 13 13:11:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA115045 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA40060 for linux-list; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA43047 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA27084 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA11137 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 04:06:44 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980514040816.007302f4@140.114.98.21> X-Sender: mjhsieh@140.114.98.21 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 04:08:16 +0800 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 763 Lines: 19 At 03:47 PM 1998/5/13 -0400, Alex deVries wrote: >On Thu, 14 May 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: >> I'm sorry if this was discussed in the maillist. >> Should there be /etc dirctory after I cpio into my partition? I can't >> find /etc in my linux partition under installer prompt. >There should be a /etc in the ext2 file system after you run the >installer. As far as I know, there is no way to read an ext2 partition >from within Irix. Sure, I browse the partition in installer. >But it sounds like you're having problems even booting up... [deleted] >Hm. You might want to run it with 'init=/bin/sh' to skip init. Well, didn't work. :~( -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 13 13:40:17 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA121350 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA29788 for linux-list; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA52786 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09928 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 13:37:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-05.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.5]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14718 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:37:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA00682; Wed, 13 May 1998 22:37:25 +0200 Message-ID: <19980513223725.33155@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:37:25 +0200 To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Cc: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... References: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Thu, May 14, 1998 at 03:25:48AM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 712 Lines: 23 On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 03:25:48AM +0800, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > [deleted] > sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) > eth0: SGI Seeq8003 blah:blah:blah:blah > Partition check > blah.... > blah.... > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. > Freeing unused kernel memory: 32k freed > Warning: unable to open an initial console. > kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= optional to kernel. > [halt] Alex already said it, try adding init=/bin/sh to the boot options. > And I use the kernel in GetingStarted directory, and got panic, too. > ("should not happened yet") That was a real bug. The kernel in GettinStarted in truely ancient. I replaced it by vmlinux-2.1.99. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 14 02:38:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA238485 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA03513 for linux-list; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA03059 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id CAA10910 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:37:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA01209; Thu, 14 May 1998 05:36:17 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 05:36:16 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> References: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13658.47456.335828.327071@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 207 Lines: 13 Francis M. J. Hsieh writes: > kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= optional to kernel. > [halt] I too get this with the new root-be. Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 14 03:03:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA226321 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA09123 for linux-list; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA86567 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 03:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA14298 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15260; Thu, 14 May 1998 17:46:35 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980514174806.006ee2d0@140.114.98.21> X-Sender: mjhsieh@140.114.98.21 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:48:06 +0800 To: Alex deVries , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980514032548.00730fa8@140.114.98.21> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1564 Lines: 72 At 03:47 PM 1998/5/13 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 14 May 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: >> I'm sorry if this was discussed in the maillist. >> Should there be /etc dirctory after I cpio into my partition? I can't >> find /etc in my linux partition under installer prompt. >There should be a /etc in the ext2 file system after you run the >installer. This log is copied from my installation output. Is anyone having idea what's wrong with the installation? ---->15# ./installer /dev/dsk/dks0d2s0 SGILinux Installer 2.6 Alan Cox (c) 1997 - based on the MacLinux68K installer 2.6 Copyright © 1997 by Christiaan Welvaart mounted . cjwsh>MAKEDEV /dev doesn't exist, creating... making standard devices & console /dev/mem /dev/kmem /dev/null /dev/port /dev/zero /dev/full /dev/ram /dev/tty /dev/tty0 symlinking /dev/console to /dev/tty0 cjwsh>cpio root-be-0.04.cpio . . . [deleted] . . . D dev/vcsa56 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa57 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa58 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa59 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa6 (failed to create) D dev/zero (failed to create) D dev/vcsa60 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa61 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa62 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa63 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa7 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa8 (failed to create) D dev/vcsa9 (failed to create) R dev/need_disks_created cjwsh> -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 14 04:43:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA266941 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 04:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA30262 for linux-list; Thu, 14 May 1998 04:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id EAA29722 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 04:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) id XAA23423; Thu, 14 May 1998 23:41:03 +1200 Message-ID: <355AD84E.F197D39E@wellington.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:41:02 +1200 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5-BETA-1274425944 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1374 Lines: 34 Alex deVries wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > > I'm sorry if this was discussed in the maillist. > > Should there be /etc dirctory after I cpio into my partition? I can't > > find /etc in my linux partition under installer prompt. > > There should be a /etc in the ext2 file system after you run the > installer. As far as I know, there is no way to read an ext2 partition > from within Irix. > Alex, It stops right at the file /dev/need_disks_created. There are a bunch of errors before this. The /dev/need_disks_created file does not seem to get written to disk correctly....the e2fsck cleans it up by the looks of things. I guess there is something about the cpio that the installer doesn't like. I tried extracting the cpio archive with Irix cpio and it seems fine. Does that give any clues? Just another thought...I'm running Irix 6.5beta. Wonder if that could be causing a problem with the installer?? Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics SGI Voicemail/VNET: 234-1455 Level 5, Cigna House, M/S: INZ-3780 PO Box 24 093, Ph: +64-4-494 6325 40 Mercer St, Wellington, Fax: +64-4-494 6321 New Zealand Mobile: +64-21-635 262 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu May 14 08:14:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA351332 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA72084 for linux-list; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA80898 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA04709 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 08:13:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA13555; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:13:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 11:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Alistair Lambie cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: <355AD84E.F197D39E@wellington.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 637 Lines: 18 On Thu, 14 May 1998, Alistair Lambie wrote: > It stops right at the file /dev/need_disks_created. There are a bunch > of errors before this. The /dev/need_disks_created file does not seem > to get written to disk correctly....the e2fsck cleans it up by the looks > of things. I guess there is something about the cpio that the installer > doesn't like. Wow. I really messed it up badly somehow. I suspect it's having a problem writing a file that's 0 bytes long. Let me repackage it, and make the file 1 byte. As we speak, I'm debugging the initrd stuff in the kernel to sort out why initial ramdisks don't get loaded. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 16 12:45:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA666362 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA80234 for linux-list; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:44:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA79728 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:44:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (mdhill.interlog.com [199.212.154.112]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id MAA22202 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 12:44:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA01410; Sat, 16 May 1998 15:43:07 -0400 From: Michael Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 15:43:05 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report In-Reply-To: <19980511093314.12884@uni-koblenz.de> References: <13652.59663.188834.236218@mdhill.interlog.com> <13653.59491.302730.251578@mdhill.interlog.com> <35566E3B.109CCAA3@detroit.sgi.com> <19980511093314.12884@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13661.60018.777703.724185@mdhill.interlog.com> Reply-To: mdhill@interlog.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 458 Lines: 19 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > > Both cases sound like a bad /etc/fstab. Try adding init=/bin/sh to your > firmware command like arguments. You'll get a completly uninitialized > system. Run e2fsck, then you should be able to remount / rw and fix > the fstab. > What should fstab look like? Mine has a single entry (with root-be-0.03) for /proc. I get a bash prompt but e2fsck hangs. Mike -- Michael Hill Toronto, Canada mdhill@interlog.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat May 16 20:58:01 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA655282 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA80694 for linux-list; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:56:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA79874 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA05936 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 20:56:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA06553 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:56:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Initrd stuff... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 694 Lines: 22 Okay, I'm hacking the kernel to allow for initial ramdisks. The approach I'm taking (after discussion with Ralf) is to use prom_open/read/close() to read an ramdisk file, instead of taking the ramdisk off of the tail portion of the boot image. So, I'm doing work in linux/arch/mips/sgi/prom/ . I'm trying to do a: prom_open(filename,rdonly,&fd); But, I always get back PROM_ENODEV . I assume that means that the device I'm trying to locate doesn't work. I've tried all sorts of things, apparantly none are correct. I thought that "scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(8)/initrd" was my best chance, but it comes back with PROM_ENODEV also. Anyone know what the correct syntax is? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 17 05:19:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA691809 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA61142 for linux-list; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:18:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA78596 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:18:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from aec.at ([195.3.98.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA16209 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 05:18:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@web.aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id MAA18209; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:33:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:33:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Alex deVries cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Initrd stuff... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 583 Lines: 15 > > I've tried all sorts of things, apparantly none are correct. I thought > that "scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(8)/initrd" was my best chance, but > it comes back with PROM_ENODEV also. > did you try "dksc(0,1,8)initrd", too? that's what i use to boot sashARCS and fx from a certain partition at least ("PROM syntax" vs. your "ARCS syntax" afaik). (0 being the controller, 1 the drive number and 8 the partition) anyway "scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(8)" won't work, because you have specified a disk and rdisk. shouldn't this read "scsi(0)disk(1)partition(8)"? -oliver From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 17 11:23:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA690031 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA31722 for linux-list; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:22:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA23227 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:22:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mathew1@home.com) Received: from cx31601-a.msnv1.occa.home.com (cx31601-a.msnv1.occa.home.com [24.1.132.178]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA05701 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mathew1@home.com) Received: from cx31601-a (mathew [10.1.0.2]) by cx31601-a.msnv1.occa.home.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04528 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:22:34 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Mathew Beall" To: "'SGI Linux'" Subject: a couple of quick questions. Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:22:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <000001bd81c0$b6000340$0200010a@cx31601-a.msnv1.occa.home.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA-1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD8186.05A2D480" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4767 Lines: 104 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD8186.05A2D480 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BD8186.0588E3E0" ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BD8186.0588E3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am new to this group, and am having problems getting my Indy to boot. I boot the root image via bootp/tftp, and I specify the command "boot -f bootp()server:/vmlinux nfsaddrs=:" and it is exported on the server. I always get a "vfs failed to mount 00:00" any ideas? Thanx! Mathew Beall ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BD8186.0588E3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I am new to this group, and am having = problems getting my Indy to boot.  I boot the root image via = bootp/tftp, and I specify the command "boot -f = bootp()server:/vmlinux nfsaddrs=3D<my ip>:<server ip>" = and it is exported on the server.  I always get a "vfs failed = to mount 00:00"  any ideas?  Thanx!

Mathew Beall

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Try adding init=/bin/sh to your > > firmware command like arguments. You'll get a completly uninitialized > > system. Run e2fsck, then you should be able to remount / rw and fix > > the fstab. > > > > What should fstab look like? Mine has a single entry (with > root-be-0.03) for /proc. > > I get a bash prompt but e2fsck hangs. Using root-be.0.03.cpio I had to hack some stuff around. /etc/fstab doesn't contain a listing for / so fsck fails in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. I'd add this entry in but I also hard coded /dev/sdc2 (my root) into rc.sysinit as the mount command in this root-be doesn't seem to like mounting from fstab entries.... Boot with vmlinux root=whatever init=/bin/sh mount -t ext -n -o remount,rw /dev/myrootdevice / vi /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/fstab logout. You may also want to 'touch /fastboot' . This will skip the fsck on boot. (probably a dangerous thing ATM :) Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 02:15:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA697361 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA26157 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:14:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA24183 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:14:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA08353 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:14:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19820; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:12:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id LAA18917; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:12:37 +0200 Message-ID: <19980518111237.27765@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:12:37 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Leon Verrall Cc: Michael Hill , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Evidence of Drive Activity to Report References: <13661.60018.777703.724185@mdhill.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Leon Verrall on Mon, May 18, 1998 at 09:35:06AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 843 Lines: 22 On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 09:35:06AM +0100, Leon Verrall wrote: > Using root-be.0.03.cpio I had to hack some stuff around. /etc/fstab doesn't > contain a listing for / so fsck fails in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. I'd add this > entry in but I also hard coded /dev/sdc2 (my root) into rc.sysinit as the > mount command in this root-be doesn't seem to like mounting from fstab > entries.... Ouch, that must be a very obsolete mount binary. > Boot with vmlinux root=whatever init=/bin/sh > mount -t ext -n -o remount,rw /dev/myrootdevice / > vi /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/fstab > logout. > > You may also want to 'touch /fastboot' . This will skip the fsck on boot. > (probably a dangerous thing ATM :) I consider the whole /fastboot thing obsolete. Only fsck knows if a filesystem is broken or not. Oh well, the things we do for Minix ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 02:59:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA715776 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA28725 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:57:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA37377 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:57:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA15905 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:57:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.148.89]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0ybLeg-000xjWC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 18 May 1998 10:52:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:54:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: SGI Linux Subject: VCE exception In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 352 Lines: 16 I know that this bug is reported, but it's quite annoying (it makes my Indy R4000 useless). I'm now trying to boot 2.1.99. ... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernes memory: 32k freed Warning: unable to open an initial console. Got vced at 88018c54. Kernel panic: Caught VCE exception - should not happen *sigh* - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 04:03:34 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA715654 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA44544 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:02:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA46977 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:02:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA29010 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:02:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28512; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:02:10 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA26299; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:02:09 +0200 Message-ID: <19980518130208.59609@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:02:08 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: VCE exception References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Mon, May 18, 1998 at 11:54:34AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1071 Lines: 28 On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 11:54:34AM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > I know that this bug is reported, but it's quite annoying (it makes my > Indy R4000 useless). > > I'm now trying to boot 2.1.99. > > ... > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. > Freeing unused kernes memory: 32k freed > Warning: unable to open an initial console. > Got vced at 88018c54. > Kernel panic: Caught VCE exception - should not happen > > *sigh* I'm working on a clean solution for the problem which is matching the virtual and physical colour of pages. Implementing this is nontrivial due to the buddy algorithem which Linux uses to maintain it's free page pool. I have some solution using DaveM's first approach to the virtual aliasing problem (it hits Sparcs, too) but that one proofed to be problematic because it needs to allocate multiple adjacent pages. In the Ultra case it's just two pages but for R4x00SC/MC it's eigth pages which essentially turns the machine into a swapping something, so something smarter is needed unless you have infinite amounts of RAM ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 04:37:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA715869 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA51134 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:36:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA58104 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:36:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA05848 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 04:36:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.13]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02326; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:35:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: by zaphod (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id NAA27974; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:35:53 +0200 Message-ID: <19980518133553.34099@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:35:53 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: VCE question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 479 Lines: 10 I don't have a machine with a SC CPU, so I hopbe somebody of you can help me -- the manuals of the R4000 / R4400 documents that the L2 cache is tagged with bits 12-14 of the virtual address. This is somewhat strange because only cache-size / 4kb bits are required to avoid virtual aliases. That would be 1 bit for the R4000SC and 2 bits for the R4400SC. Question: will the R4000SC/R4400SC actually verify 3 bits or only the one rsp. two bits which need to be checked? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 09:29:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA773151 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA35613 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:27:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.183]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA39332; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA20630; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:26:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:26:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199805181626.JAA20630@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: VCE question In-Reply-To: <19980518133553.34099@uni-koblenz.de> References: <19980518133553.34099@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2095 Lines: 36 ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes: > I don't have a machine with a SC CPU, so I hopbe somebody of you can > help me -- the manuals of the R4000 / R4400 documents that the L2 cache > is tagged with bits 12-14 of the virtual address. This is somewhat > strange because only cache-size / 4kb bits are required to avoid virtual > aliases. That would be 1 bit for the R4000SC and 2 bits for the R4400SC. > > Question: will the R4000SC/R4400SC actually verify 3 bits or only the > one rsp. two bits which need to be checked? Yes, they verify all 3 bits. You can have a VCE handler, even for kernel stacks, if you are very careful in the general exception handler. (The VCE handler does writeback invalidate on the primary data cache and an invalidate on the primary instruction cache for the offending address, and then does a hit-set-virtual on the secondary cache; alternately, somewhat more slowly, but more simply, the handler does a writeback invalidate on the secondary cache.) Of course, you still have to arrange to have only one virtual color valid at a time for a given physical page to make the R4000PC, R4600, and R5000 work correctly. On the other hand, if you can arrange that, including flushing the cache appropriately when changing the current virtual color of a physical page, you will never get a VCE (assuming you treat the R4000SC and R4400SC has having 8 colors, not 2 or 4). On the other processors, where VCE is not detected, you can further optimize the code by allowing for multiple virtual colors for read-only pages, invalidating all conflicting mappings when a read-write mapping is required. IRIX does this in 6.3 and 6.5. We don't break the mappings; we just turn off pg_vr in the PTEs. When we get a fault on one of the software-valid, hardware-invalid mappings, we do an ownership switch, turning off the mappings for the current color and changing the current color to the desired one. This of course requires appropriate cache cleaning for the whole page. By comparison, the R4000SC/R4400SC VCE handler works just one cache line at a time. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 10:01:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA784913 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA40105 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA49327 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA13963 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:59:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh@mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA12416; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:57:58 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980519005928.0077ef3c@140.114.98.21> X-Sender: mjhsieh@140.114.98.21 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:59:28 +0800 To: Alex deVries From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: References: <355AD84E.F197D39E@wellington.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 423 Lines: 13 At 11:13 AM 1998/5/14 -0400, you wrote: >Wow. I really messed it up badly somehow. > >I suspect it's having a problem writing a file that's 0 bytes long. Let >me repackage it, and make the file 1 byte. So, can anybody have time to fix it up? :-) I am new to sgi-linux and want to "getting start" :-). -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 10:27:02 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA791832 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA60519 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:25:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA59744 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA25296 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23837; Mon, 18 May 1998 13:24:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Installer changes... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980519005928.0077ef3c@140.114.98.21> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 28 On Tue, 19 May 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > At 11:13 AM 1998/5/14 -0400, you wrote: > >Wow. I really messed it up badly somehow. > >I suspect it's having a problem writing a file that's 0 bytes long. Let > >me repackage it, and make the file 1 byte. > So, can anybody have time to fix it up? :-) I am new to sgi-linux and > want to "getting start" :-). I know this has been a couple of days that I've let this slip... I'll take care of it (hopefully) tonight. In the meantime, you can get by with a bit of pain on 0.01d, which is in the old subdir. I used that yesterday when I mistakenly reformatted by entire Linux system. *sigh*. That was actually the first time I'd used the installer, which is a bit odd, seeing as how I've been maintaining it. There are definite strides in the right direction for never having to use the installer again, though. I now understand how the initrd stuff works, and have a start in puting in prom_initrd stuff. The biggest thing we can do to further the project right now is to get more people onboard with the fewest hassles possible. Getting a decent install program is critical to it. initrd (or prom_initrd) is the right solution to that. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 12:33:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA805703 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA12313 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:32:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA89942; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:32:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980205.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA19420; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199805181932.MAA19420@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: SGI Logo / Povray To: jchrr@post.uni-bielefeld.de (Jens Christian Restemeier) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <35605CC9.53CE@uni-bielefeld.de> from "Jens Christian Restemeier" at May 18, 98 06:07:37 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 827 Lines: 33 Hi, Thanks for the povray sources to the SGi logo. Actually, it wasn't me who asked for it. I believe it was Miguel de Icaza who wrote the SGi/Linux logo page. I don't have povray handy so I just uploaded your sources to the site and mentioned your name as the contributor. Thanks! I'm Ccing the linux list, just in case anyone wants to play with it and/or give us some additional Tux+SGI stuff that can be put on the web. The stuff is in: http://www.linux.sgi.com/logos.html : :Hi ! : :On the SGI/Linux logo page you mentioned something about "getting your :hands on the POVRAY source for the SGI Logo". Well, I like the SGI logo :and I spent a few minutes writing a script for it. :It needs a little tweaking, like the width of the pipes, but it is quite :configureable. : : Jens Ch. Restemeier -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 14:56:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA819755 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA89744 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:55:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA92433 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:55:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA21755 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:55:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA30492; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:49:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:49:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: SGI Linux Subject: prom_open() problems. In-Reply-To: <19980128204307.61681@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1971722821-1405645646-895528193=:20171" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 15646 Lines: 271 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1971722821-1405645646-895528193=:20171 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached is the start of an implementation to allow for initrd's to sit on an EFS or VH, and be read using prom_open/read/close. The file is hardcoded right now, although there is the start of parameter handling (before start_kernel()). The problem that I'm having is that prom_open() always returns 13, which I think means that there is no such device. I've used all possible strings, but I've not found any paths that work, so I can't read the file. No, you're not allowed to pick on my code, yet. 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does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA21977 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:55:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw (mjhsieh.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.106]) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA00788; Tue, 19 May 1998 05:53:37 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199805182153.FAA00788@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw> X-Sender: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 05:55:10 +0800 To: Alex deVries From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" Subject: Re: Installer changes... Cc: SGI Linux In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980519005928.0077ef3c@140.114.98.21> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 468 Lines: 12 At 01:24 AM 1998/5/19 , you wrote: >The biggest thing we can do to further the project right now is to get >more people onboard with the fewest hassles possible. Getting a decent >install program is critical to it. initrd (or prom_initrd) is the right >solution to that. Can't agree more. The more people we get, the more thing we can do. :-) -- -- Francis Meng Juei Hsieh, Life Science Department, NTHU, Taiwan. Welcome to Life Science BBS bbs.life.nthu.edu.tw From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 18 20:15:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA878111 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA14071 for linux-list; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:15:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id UAA03517 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 20:14:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alambie@wellington.sgi.com) Received: from wellington.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) id PAA19735; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:13:47 +1200 Message-ID: <3560F8EA.789513D9@wellington.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:13:46 +1200 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5-BETA-1274425944 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: Alistair Lambie , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Installer changes... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1503 Lines: 37 Alex deVries wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 1998, Alistair Lambie wrote: > > It stops right at the file /dev/need_disks_created. There are a bunch > > of errors before this. The /dev/need_disks_created file does not seem > > to get written to disk correctly....the e2fsck cleans it up by the looks > > of things. I guess there is something about the cpio that the installer > > doesn't like. > > Wow. I really messed it up badly somehow. > > I suspect it's having a problem writing a file that's 0 bytes long. Let > me repackage it, and make the file 1 byte. > No, this is not the problem. The problem is that the /dev directory is getting too big for 'installer' to handle. If I repackage the cpio after deleting some files from the directory all is well. Maybe we need to do a very minimal package of the files in the /dev directory and run some MAKEDEV's on first boot? > As we speak, I'm debugging the initrd stuff in the kernel to sort out why > initial ramdisks don't get loaded. > I think this is the way to go for the future...saves maintaining installer :-) Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@wellington.sgi.com Silicon Graphics SGI Voicemail/VNET: 234-1455 Level 5, Cigna House, M/S: INZ-3780 PO Box 24 093, Ph: +64-4-494 6325 40 Mercer St, Wellington, Fax: +64-4-494 6321 New Zealand Mobile: +64-21-635 262 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 19 18:29:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA922764 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA88059 for linux-list; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:28:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA70569 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:28:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA02063 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.24]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18760 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:28:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00938; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:17:38 +0200 Message-ID: <19980520031738.58084@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:17:38 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: The Forth may be with you ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 365 Lines: 11 Hi all, for the fun of it and because I needed something that is programable, interactive and small (92kb including the full dictionay) I ported pforth v19 to run on the raw ARC firmware. If anybody is interested in this toy, tell me. Even you even have an alibi application for this toy, tell me asap :-) Ralf (Guess how much I love the Arghh firmware ...) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 19 19:53:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA02380 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA05413 for linux-list; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA67965 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:52:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA23809 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:52:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12891; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:52:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:52:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The Forth may be with you ... In-Reply-To: <19980520031738.58084@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 478 Lines: 15 On Wed, 20 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > for the fun of it and because I needed something that is programable, > interactive and small (92kb including the full dictionay) I ported pforth > v19 to run on the raw ARC firmware. If anybody is interested in this > toy, tell me. Even you even have an alibi application for this toy, > tell me asap :-) Alright, I'll bite. Exactly what is this useful for? Could we use this as a LILO replacement for SGI/Linux? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 20 09:17:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA32112 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA31897 for linux-list; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:16:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA40512 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:16:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA19758 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-07.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.7]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05693 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:16:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01127; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:37:47 +0200 Message-ID: <19980520163747.16398@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:37:47 +0200 To: Alex deVries Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: The Forth may be with you ... References: <19980520031738.58084@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Tue, May 19, 1998 at 10:52:08PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1115 Lines: 27 On Tue, May 19, 1998 at 10:52:08PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 1998 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > for the fun of it and because I needed something that is programable, > > interactive and small (92kb including the full dictionay) I ported pforth > > v19 to run on the raw ARC firmware. If anybody is interested in this > > toy, tell me. Even you even have an alibi application for this toy, > > tell me asap :-) > > Alright, I'll bite. > > Exactly what is this useful for? Could we use this as a LILO replacement > for SGI/Linux? Well, I was fed up of compiling test programs for the ARC firmware to play with it, reboot crash the box and start all over again. What could it be usefull for? It's a full programming language including development environment, so you can basically do anything with it. If you wish, knit your own OpenFirmware from it? And yes, you could brew a LILO equivalent from it. The question is still if we need such a thing. It's a overkill solution with small resource footprint and absolute flexibility. But then it might be what makes it attractive. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed May 20 09:02:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA25715 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA30738 for linux-list; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:01:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA38922 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:01:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (leon@reading.sgi.com) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id RAA00944; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:01:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:01:29 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall Reply-To: Leon Verrall To: SGI Linux Subject: netcfg problems? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 623 Lines: 19 Does anyone else have problems with netcfg when installed from the hurricane distribution? I get (from memory) a problem in Tkinter.py claiming that there's no such module tkinter. tcl, tk and tkinter rpms are installed though... Oh and binutils 2.whatever seems to be missing from /pub/redhat/hurricane/RPMS/mips, Alex? Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri May 22 12:22:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA63994 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA12217 for linux-list; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:21:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA09392 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:21:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA21219 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:21:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29108 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA9BE; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:21:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3565D015.F889C3C7@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:20:53 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ariel@sgi.com, mende@sgi.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: linus:/src Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 133 Lines: 9 /src isn't mounted, the system can't find /dev/dsk/xlv/xlv0, and rebooting didn't fix it. Any ideas? Mike -- 189088.87 111351.15 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun May 24 00:27:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA46397 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 00:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA06831 for linux-list; Sun, 24 May 1998 00:27:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA08165 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 00:27:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (veillard@rufus.w3.org) Received: from rufus.w3.org (rufus.w3.org [18.29.0.66]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA04564 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 00:27:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (veillard@rufus.w3.org) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by rufus.w3.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA11511 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Sun, 24 May 1998 03:27:06 -0400 Message-ID: <19980524032705.B10127@w3.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 03:27:05 -0400 From: Daniel.Veillard@w3.org To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Added SGIlinux to the RPM database Reply-To: Daniel.Veillard@w3.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.7 Organization: World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2258 Lines: 51 Just to inform you that I have just added a mirror of SGIlinux at ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/SGILinux/redhat-5.0/ and that the packages are now indexed in the RPM database at http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/SGIlinux/5.0/ hope it may prove useful, Daniel P.S. I got some real problems with 5 packages in the noarch directory, it seems that their content is somewhat garbled, the RPM (4.12) library cannot properly read the header, at least on an Intel platform: ---------- ~/rpm2html -> ./rpm2html config.sgi Scanning directory /linux/SGILinux/redhat-5.0/RPMS for RPMs Invalid package setconsole-1.0-3.noarch.rpm : garbled name Invalid package rootfiles-1.5-3.noarch.rpm : garbled name Invalid package pamconfig-0.51-4.noarch.rpm : garbled name Invalid package nls-1.0-3.noarch.rpm : garbled name Invalid package mysterious-1.0-3.noarch.rpm : garbled name ~/rpm2html -> ---------- ~/rpm2html -> rpm -qip /linux/SGILinux/redhat-5.0/RPMS/noarch/setconsole-1.0-3.noarch.rpm Name : Distribution: e for a new console. The console may be either the local terminal (directly attached to the system via a video card) or a serial console. Version : t Vendor: console. The console may be either the local terminal (directly attached to the system via a video card) or a serial console. Release : c Build Date: Mon Mar 13 10:32:06 1995 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: /systty, and /dev/console for a new console. The console may be either the local terminal (directly attached to the system via a video card) or a serial console. Group : irectly attached to the system via a video card) or a serial console. Source RPM: onsole.8 Size : 1853058924 Packager : may be either the local terminal (directly attached to the system via a video card) or a serial console. Summary : Description : y ~/rpm2html -> ---------- -- Daniel.Veillard@w3.org | W3C MIT/LCS NE43-344 | Today's Bookmarks : Tel : +1 617 253 5884 | 545 Technology Square | Linux, WWW, rpm2html, Fax : +1 617 258 5999 | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA | badminton, Kaffe, http://www.w3.org/People/W3Cpeople.html#Veillard | HTTP-NG and Amaya. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon May 25 19:15:21 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA47900 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA02749 for linux-list; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:13:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA25657 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:13:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA05776 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:13:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA25706 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:13:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: RedHat 5.1 Manhattan for SGI/Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 520 Lines: 17 Just so everybody knows, I'm building the source RPMs for RedHat 5.1 Manhattan as we speak. I should have a big chunk of uploads by tomorrow, but I don't think I have the time to investigate the gazillion oddities that stop everything from building until after Linux Expo. I am positive there will be packages that do not compile out of the box. The intention is to submit patches back to RedHat for inclusion in 5.2 or 6.0. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue May 26 20:14:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA34508 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA37094 for linux-list; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:12:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA05686 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:12:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA06782 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:12:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-04.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.4]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16949 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 05:12:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA01439; Wed, 27 May 1998 04:26:29 +0200 Message-ID: <19980527042629.62884@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 04:26:29 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: hjl@lucon.org Subject: Assembler bug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 637 Lines: 20 I ran into an assembler bug which affects at least MIPS GAS 2.7 and 2.8.1. An example which triggers the bug: [ralf@lappi ralf]$ cat s.s .globl label1 label1: .org 0x1000 .align 13 # align on 8kb boundary [ralf@lappi /tmp]$ mips-linux-as -O3 -o s.o s.s [ralf@lappi /tmp]$ mips-linux-objdump --syms s.o | grep label1 0000000000002000 g O .text 0000000000000000 label1 [ralf@lappi /tmp]$ => Label label1 get's the wrong value 0x2000, not 0x0 as it should, assigned. Inserting a label definition after the .org pseudo op generates correct code again. I haven't tried this on non-MIPS GAS. Ralf