From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 2 05:23:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA30502 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA69025 for linux-list; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:22:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA32429 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:22:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Arnaud.Le.Neel@cyceron.fr) Received: from cyceron.fr (ns2.cyceron.fr [192.93.44.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA00460 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 05:21:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Arnaud.Le.Neel@cyceron.fr) Received: from cyceron.fr (indigo1.cyceron.fr [192.93.44.9]) by cyceron.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18924 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:22:01 GMT Message-ID: <3573FC79.75791526@cyceron.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:22:01 +0100 From: Arnaud Le Neel Reply-To: Arnaud.Le.Neel@cyceron.fr Organization: Cyceron PET Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP20) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Newbie on this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 629 Lines: 18 Hi there, I'm newbie on this list, and i want to know how advanced is this project. I didn't found some updated documentation on www.linux.sgi.com and i wondered if it was because of the low speed of the project? Excuse me for this question, but i didn't found the FAQ, and i'm interested in installing Linux on a old Indy. Thank's a lot, arno -- Arnaud Le Néel Cyceron PET Research Center Systems and Network administrator Bd Becquerel - BP 5229 mailto:Arnaud.Le.Neel@cyceron.fr F-14074 Caen - CEDEX ICQ #8852927 Tel : (+33) (0)231 470 203 http://www.cyceron.fr/~arno Fax : (+33) (0)231 470 222 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 3 02:56:16 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA02724 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA66287 for linux-list; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:55:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA66574 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:55:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.29]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id CAA14974 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:55:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au) Received: From ives With LocalMail ; Wed, 3 Jun 98 19:55:37 +1000 From: "Andrew O'Brien" To: SGI/Linux mailing list Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:55:37 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: andrewo@ives.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Reply-To: andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au Subject: Account request. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1738 Lines: 46 Sorry about the spam. I thought it'd have more chance of being acted upon soon(ish) if I posted to the group. I'm after an account on linus. I'm currently working on a port to a specialised 4600 board developed here at the UNSW (actually I'm porting linux to run on top of L4, a microkernel, running on this board) I attempted to access the cvs tree with user: cvs, password:cvs and then found that cvs was not accessable this way. Poking back through the mail archive (thanks Ariel - its at http://reality.sgi.com/ariel/linux.gz for those of you wondering) I found that it's only available via ssh. Therefore, an account would be nice as mirroring via ftp is not really that productive ;) I seem to remember there being problems with the cvs-commit mailing list - if this is fixed could someone add me (or let me know what the address is for the majordomo server) to that as well ? My thanks to you all. BTW - if anyone is interested in local OS stuff, have a look at the following: UNSW Mungi Project (Mungi is a 64bit SASOS and the final target of my port) http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disy/Mungi.html MIPS L4 developed here: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disy/L4/ http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo/thesis (not much here but a short talk on the general design goals of the Linux on L4 port) --___________________________________________________________________ / Andrew O'Brien andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au bbq@mindless.com \ / Student, Faculty of CSE http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~andrewo \ > UNSW, Australia President COMPSOC http://www/~compsoc < \ BE (Comp)/BA (Psych) Student Representative stu-reps@cse.. / \_____ "finger andrewo@cse.unsw.edu.au" for my current location ____/ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 3 14:59:11 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA41156 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA28887 for linux-list; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA17840 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:57:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA23806 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:57:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA25282 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:56:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: strace Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1368 Lines: 38 I know this worked before. I rebuilt strace from the CVS, and now it does: [root@alex3 strace]# ./strace /bin/ls execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls"], [/* 17 vars */]) = 0 brk(0) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) cacheflush(0x7ffffb60, 28, BCACHE) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) cacheflush(0x7ffffae8, 28, BCACHE) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) mmap(0x40d578, 24879, PROT_EXEC, 0 /* MAP_??? */, -1, 0xc) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: ", 29) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "dl-minimal.c", 12) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, ": ", 2) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "70", 2) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, ": ", 2) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "malloc", 6) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, ": ", 2) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "Assertion `", 11) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "page != (caddr_t) -1", 20) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) write(2, "\' failed!\n", 10) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) _exit(127) = ? _exit returned! ) = ? --- SIGBUS (Segmentation fault) --- +++ killed by SIGBUS +++ Where should I start looking? - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 4 12:10:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA78214 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA94268 for linux-list; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA25264; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:08:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA42738; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806041908.MAA42738@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Linux / freeware To: rlane9@csc.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <4A256619.002A27F8.00@cscmail.csc.com> from "rlane9@csc.com" at Jun 4, 98 05:42:13 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2062 Lines: 49 : :I'm a SGI at CSC running a network of O2s, O200s and Onyx2s, plus a couple :of Indys and a Challenge S, running 6.2, 6.3, 6.4 on the approriate :hardware, plus 6.5B on one of the Indys. All up about 30 machines, and I :have more or less BOFH level control of them. I've even got a gutless :(R4000SC / 24bit / 32MB) Indy at home that I can explode at will, which :is about to be upgraded from 6.2 -> 6.5B. : : What I was wondering was: is any of the above useful to you for either :the Linux port, or freeware support. I am not an expert C programmer, :but I'm not totally clueless, having ugrad C experience. I'm fairly :advanced at SGI admin and support, and have Linux on PCs at home. I have :fast-ish internet connectivity at work (512kB - which is quick for OZ) :and will have a Linux PC sitting at an ISP shortly. : : I have the full SGI developer kit at work + gcc, with gcc at home, :plus the chunks of IDO required to bootstrap gcc. I can even provide an :Australian WWW mirror if that would be useful. : : I'd be fairly happy to bang my head against a wall trying to get Linux :running on my Indy, and to help with testing IRIX apps under linux. :There seems to be little point porting all the Irix apps to Linux with :the associated licensing probs, when every SGI box comes with the base :OS already. : :------------------------------------------------------------------------- :Richard Lane, System Administrator :CSC Australia - Major Defense Projects - Network Engineering :CSC email: :------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : [CCing the Linux list] Dear Richard, Thanks for the offers. I'm signed on the web pages because I helped put them up however, I'm swamped with "real" work and am no longer put my time into coordinating the SGI/Linux port. My best advice would be: please subscribe to the mailing list install SGI/Linux on your Indy and communicate your experiences and suggestions on the list. There are about 100 subscribers most of them ouside SGI. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 5 15:36:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA66836 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA90505 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA99619 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:34:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA08870 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA13540 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:34:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Some questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 288 Lines: 16 What are the implications of us redistributing the header files from Irix? In particular, there are some header files for newport graphics that are needed. Oliver, how's the fdisk port going? - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 5 17:26:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA82485 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA41945 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA40577; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA47789; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806060025.RAA47789@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Some questions... To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jun 5, 98 06:34:01 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1774 Lines: 41 : : :What are the implications of us redistributing the header files from Irix? :In particular, there are some header files for newport graphics that are :needed. : My personal reasoning for "it is not really a problem" stems from the following facts: 1) If you have the Indy (hardware) you already have the license for IRIX (for your own use) 2) Unlike in earlier days where you had so buy a "developer's CD" to get headers" SGI is now including header files standard with the system (since 6.2 at least). 3) Newport graphics is ancient technology (about 6 years old) Having said that, all these headers usually have this on top: /************************************************************************** * * * Copyright (C) 1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc. * * * * These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs contain * * unpublished proprietary information of Silicon Graphics, Inc., and * * are protected by Federal copyright law. They may not be disclosed * * to third parties or copied or duplicated in any form, in whole or * * in part, without the prior written consent of Silicon Graphics, Inc. * * * **************************************************************************/ So clearly we should get permission from the "powers that be" and someone needs to ask the legal people :-) I just don't know what entity can approve this. If anyone knows and we can get a brief "approved" from some director, it would be nice. Any volunteers ? -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 5 22:43:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA96341 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA62568 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:42:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA13475 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:42:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id WAA21453 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:42:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA28371 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:42:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:42:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Things that need to be done. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 624 Lines: 26 Right now, I'm dealing with a deadline of June 12th for getting a proper distribution of Manhattan for SGI together. If you don't know why the firm deadline, inquire privately. With that in mind, it would be very helpful if we could get different pieces sorted out. These are the big things that we're missing, in order: - fdisk - g++ (currently segfaults) - strace - gdb - glibc - egcs - X server _PLEASE_, if you can help sort out any of these, it would be greatly appreciated. These are things that I'm finding difficult. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 6 00:33:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA97887 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA38615 for linux-list; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:32:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA83676 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:32:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (pm215@cam.ac.uk) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA13214 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:32:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (pm215@cam.ac.uk) Received: from mnementh.trin.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.213.48]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com id 0yiDTA-0006k1-00; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:32:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (mnementh.trin.cam.ac.uk) [127.0.0.1] by mnementh.trin.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yiDT9-0005f5-00 (Debian); Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:32:51 +0100 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Some questions... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:25:03 PDT." <199806060025.RAA47789@oz.engr.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:32:49 +0200 From: Peter Maydell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1093 Lines: 25 Ariel Faigon wrote: > 1) If you have the Indy (hardware) you already have > the license for IRIX (for your own use) Does this hold for earlier machines as well? I have a 4D/70GT with no system software... While I'm here, I thought I'd look into the feasibility of porting Linux to this machine. [In fact, I'm probably not going to have access to the machine for long enough to work on it, but maybe somebody else will. (the machine belongs to the Computer Preservation Society here in Cambridge...)] Anyway, points that spring to mind: * the CPU is an R2000; I don't think any of the current ports are for less than an R3000 -- does anybody know how different the R2000 is? * without hardware documentation I suspect it will be impossible to get anywhere. Every board seems to have a CPU on it :-> The ESDI and ethernet boards both have 68000s, and the graphics board set has a 68020 complete with debugging monitor you can access via a serial terminal, in addition to all those custom chips... Are SGI being helpful about providing documentation on the older hardware? Peter Maydell From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 6 08:37:39 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA95577 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA09307 for linux-list; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:36:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA23834 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:36:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jwelling@engin.umich.edu) Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu (azure.engin.umich.edu [141.212.78.14]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA07428 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:36:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jwelling@engin.umich.edu) Received: from localhost (jwelling@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA16575; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:36:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy John Welling To: Peter Maydell cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Some questions... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1451 Lines: 34 Um, on top of the reasons you've already sited, I don't think there's enough of those behemoth's still in operational existence to make a port worth while. I'm no hardware expert, but other than the original os, there's not much you can do for that old box. On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Peter Maydell wrote: > Ariel Faigon wrote: > > 1) If you have the Indy (hardware) you already have > > the license for IRIX (for your own use) > > Does this hold for earlier machines as well? I have a 4D/70GT with no > system software... > > While I'm here, I thought I'd look into the feasibility of porting > Linux to this machine. [In fact, I'm probably not going to have access > to the machine for long enough to work on it, but maybe somebody else > will. (the machine belongs to the Computer Preservation Society here in > Cambridge...)] > > Anyway, points that spring to mind: > * the CPU is an R2000; I don't think any of the current ports are for > less than an R3000 -- does anybody know how different the R2000 is? > > * without hardware documentation I suspect it will be impossible to get > anywhere. Every board seems to have a CPU on it :-> The ESDI and ethernet > boards both have 68000s, and the graphics board set has a 68020 complete > with debugging monitor you can access via a serial terminal, in addition > to all those custom chips... > Are SGI being helpful about providing documentation on the older hardware? > > Peter Maydell > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 7 10:06:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA19481 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA61633 for linux-list; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:04:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA95358 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:04:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@miseria.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: from miseria.nuclecu.unam.mx ([193.141.105.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA13031 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:04:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@miseria.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by miseria.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA03577; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:05:19 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:05:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199806071705.TAA03577@miseria.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:42:37 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Things that need to be done. X-Quote: If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. References: Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 54 Lines: 6 > - strace This should be on he cvs server. Miguel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 8 17:04:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA69474 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA38983 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:02:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA52136 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA21082 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:02:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.24]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12903 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:02:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01021; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:14:02 +0200 Message-ID: <19980608081402.10078@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:14:02 +0200 To: Peter Maydell Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Some questions... References: <199806060025.RAA47789@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Peter Maydell on Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:32:49AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2014 Lines: 43 On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:32:49AM +0200, Peter Maydell wrote: > Ariel Faigon wrote: > > 1) If you have the Indy (hardware) you already have > > the license for IRIX (for your own use) > > Does this hold for earlier machines as well? I have a 4D/70GT with no > system software... > > While I'm here, I thought I'd look into the feasibility of porting > Linux to this machine. [In fact, I'm probably not going to have access > to the machine for long enough to work on it, but maybe somebody else > will. (the machine belongs to the Computer Preservation Society here in > Cambridge...)] > > Anyway, points that spring to mind: > * the CPU is an R2000; I don't think any of the current ports are for > less than an R3000 -- does anybody know how different the R2000 is? The R3000 is basically an R2000 which has undergone an overhaul to make higher clockrate possible. With respect to software R2000 and R3000 are 100% compatible with the exception that the product ID register c0_prid contains a different value. For those of you who are not reading linux-mips@fnet.fr, Harald yesterday managed to bring his DECstation into userland booting from a ramdisk, so a large fraction of the job has been done. > * without hardware documentation I suspect it will be impossible to get > anywhere. Every board seems to have a CPU on it :-> The ESDI and ethernet > boards both have 68000s, and the graphics board set has a 68020 complete > with debugging monitor you can access via a serial terminal, in addition > to all those custom chips... > Are SGI being helpful about providing documentation on the older hardware? This is one point. The other is as somebody else mentioned in this thread that few people actually still have such a machine, the number of active kernel hackers will be even lower. Given that and that the machine is unsupported since a long time, maybe SGI might even consider contributing sources for such ancient systems as long as they're not poisoned with AT&T (C) stuff ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 8 17:06:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA68956 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA53013 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:05:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA91276 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA22356 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:05:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.24]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14337 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:05:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA02877; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:05:21 +0200 Message-ID: <19980609020521.40668@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 02:05:21 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Swamped ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 209 Lines: 7 Hi all, as some you guys may know currently there is Linux the Linux/UNIX conference season. I'm currently pretty burried upto my throat in email, so please excuse if I didn't answer your email yet. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 8 17:19:23 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA70348 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA89319 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:17:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from dragon.engr.sgi.com (dragon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.105.14]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA15942 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:17:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sr@dragon.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA20363 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:17:11 -0700 (PDT) From: sr@dragon.engr.sgi.com (Steve Rikli) Message-Id: <199806090017.RAA20363@dragon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Some questions... To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:17:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19980608081402.10078@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at Jun 8, 98 08:14:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2852 Lines: 60 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:32:49AM +0200, Peter Maydell wrote: > > > Ariel Faigon wrote: > > > 1) If you have the Indy (hardware) you already have > > > the license for IRIX (for your own use) > > > > Does this hold for earlier machines as well? I have a 4D/70GT with no > > system software... > > > > While I'm here, I thought I'd look into the feasibility of porting > > Linux to this machine. [In fact, I'm probably not going to have access > > to the machine for long enough to work on it, but maybe somebody else > > will. (the machine belongs to the Computer Preservation Society here in > > Cambridge...)] > > > > Anyway, points that spring to mind: > > * the CPU is an R2000; I don't think any of the current ports are for > > less than an R3000 -- does anybody know how different the R2000 is? > > The R3000 is basically an R2000 which has undergone an overhaul to make > higher clockrate possible. With respect to software R2000 and R3000 are > 100% compatible with the exception that the product ID register c0_prid > contains a different value. > > For those of you who are not reading linux-mips@fnet.fr, Harald yesterday > managed to bring his DECstation into userland booting from a ramdisk, so a > large fraction of the job has been done. > > > * without hardware documentation I suspect it will be impossible to get > > anywhere. Every board seems to have a CPU on it :-> The ESDI and ethernet > > boards both have 68000s, and the graphics board set has a 68020 complete > > with debugging monitor you can access via a serial terminal, in addition > > to all those custom chips... > > Are SGI being helpful about providing documentation on the older hardware? > > This is one point. The other is as somebody else mentioned in this thread > that few people actually still have such a machine, the number of active > kernel hackers will be even lower. Given that and that the machine is > unsupported since a long time, maybe SGI might even consider contributing > sources for such ancient systems as long as they're not poisoned with AT&T > (C) stuff ... This might be an opportune time to point out the "This Old SGI" website again: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html I dunno how helpful the info therein will be wrt Linux porting, but from a purely selfish point of view I'd love to see Linux running on the 4D (especially MP boxes like 4D/440 et al) series & other R3K boxes (e.g. classic Indigo) since I personally own a couple of them. ;) cheers, sr. -- || Steve Rikli ||| || || Systems Administrator ||| How can something that is almost 3 MB || || SNS, EIS Infrastructure ||| in size be called a "kernel"? || || Silicon Graphics, Inc. ||| || From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 9 12:23:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA49643 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA76970 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:22:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA81363 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:22:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from ballyhoo.ml.org ([194.236.80.80]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA01029 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:22:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (grimsy@zigzegv.ml.org) Received: from calypso.saturn ([130.244.182.197]) by ballyhoo.ml.org with smtp (ident grimsy using rfc1413) id m0yjTz0-000xjHC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:22:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:19:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Ulf Carlsson X-Sender: grimsy@calypso.saturn To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: cvs In-Reply-To: <19980609020521.40668@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 119 Lines: 6 Hi, Can't you please make a tarball of the latest kernel in the cvs tree and put it in /pub/test or something? - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 9 12:35:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA15488 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA42750 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:34:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA19416 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:34:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca ([134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA05941 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:34:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA22684; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:34:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Ulf Carlsson cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 583 Lines: 30 Ulf, You want: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/mips-linux/GettingStarted/vmlinux-indy-2.1.99.tar.gz. (Oh, and I have most of the RH installer running... more updates later today) - A -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:19:56 +0200 (CEST) > From: Ulf Carlsson > To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: cvs > > Hi, > Can't you please make a tarball of the latest kernel in the cvs tree and > put it in /pub/test or something? > > - Ulf > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 9 12:46:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA16176 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA78374 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA32438 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:45:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca ([134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA10156 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:45:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA23479; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:45:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Ulf Carlsson cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cvs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 259 Lines: 12 On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > Can't you please make a tarball of the latest kernel in the cvs tree and > put it in /pub/test or something? Ooops, you meant _source_, I read _binary_, sorry. Uh, why not just use cvs to check it out? - A From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 9 13:51:54 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18976 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA28664 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA65835 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA09034 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAB13466 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAADE1; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:51:07 -0700 Message-ID: <357DA057.AB9EF73B@netscape.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:51:35 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.1 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cvs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 199 Lines: 12 Alex deVries wrote: > Uh, why not just use cvs to check it out? Because I'm lamer than lame and still haven't made anonymous cvs work right. I'll do that right now... Mike -- 107190.57 88319.77 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 12:12:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA39644 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA37840 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA51331 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:10:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock-sgi@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id MAA19050 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock-sgi@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:10:36 +0100 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (pc29.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.129]) by sable.ox.ac.uk (1.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA29538 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:10:34 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <357ED9E8.81BD1641@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:09:28 +0100 From: Matthew Kirkwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Test? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 79 Lines: 4 Sorry to bother you; none of my posts seem to be getting through... Matthew. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 12:27:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA40474 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA15011 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:26:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA35357 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:26:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id MAA26196 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 14171 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 1998 19:25:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:25:34 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Kirkwood To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: 4d/25 docs. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 587 Lines: 21 Hi, Someone has offered me a Personal Iris (4D/25) box which I'd quite like to put Linux on. I am aware that very little R3K work has been and is being done, and that's fine by me :-) William Earl suggested a while ago (I checked the archive), that docs for the 4D/?? boxes could be made available on the same basis as those for the Indy. Since I don't know what basis this is, I'm a bit stumped :) Do I have to be a member of the Inner Circle(tm) to see these things? FWIW, almost anything with enough detail will do. I can sometimes even read my own code :-) Cheers, Matthew. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 12:40:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA41218 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA33451 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA57168 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA01321 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:39:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA02882; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:39:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:39:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Matthew Kirkwood cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 4d/25 docs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1490 Lines: 38 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Matthew Kirkwood wrote: > Someone has offered me a Personal Iris (4D/25) box which I'd > quite like to put Linux on. I am aware that very little R3K > work has been and is being done, and that's fine by me :-) > William Earl suggested a while ago (I checked the archive), > that docs for the 4D/?? boxes could be made available on the > same basis as those for the Indy. > > Since I don't know what basis this is, I'm a bit stumped :) > > Do I have to be a member of the Inner Circle(tm) to see these > things? > FWIW, almost anything with enough detail will do. I can sometimes > even read my own code :-) I am none of the following: - a member of the Inner Circle - a paid person by SGI - someone who has his name in kernel CREDITS However, I have a lot of docs from SGI on the Indy hardware, which seem to improve in quality as you re-read them. What does this mean to you getting such docs? Probably nothing. Seeing as how the Iris is older than the Indy, I'd suspect that there would be even more likelyhood of you getting access to the docs. I expect the biggest restraint will be finding someone within SGI who has the time to follow this kind of thing up. Certainly William Earl is a good person to follow up with. I believe Ariel is quite busy these days. Personally, I'd love to see something like the Iris supported. As time goes on, more an dd more people will want a modern OS with a lower overhead to run on their retired machines. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 12:52:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA42636 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA59371 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA91674; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA65805; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806101951.MAA65805@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: 4d/25 docs. To: weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (Matthew Kirkwood) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: from "Matthew Kirkwood" at Jun 10, 98 08:25:34 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1908 Lines: 62 : :Hi, : :Someone has offered me a Personal Iris (4D/25) box which I'd :quite like to put Linux on. I am aware that very little R3K :work has been and is being done, and that's fine by me :-) : :William Earl suggested a while ago (I checked the archive), :that docs for the 4D/?? boxes could be made available on the :same basis as those for the Indy. : :Since I don't know what basis this is, I'm a bit stumped :) : :Do I have to be a member of the Inner Circle(tm) to see these :things? : :FWIW, almost anything with enough detail will do. I can sometimes :even read my own code :-) : :Cheers, :Matthew. : Matthew, Before I start. You know about: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html If not, check it out. Really honestly, and by no means to sound negative but-- : I think the main problem is the handling. Someone who is probably highly paid (at SGI) needs to go and search for those antique docs (they are not online as far as I can tell/search), send them to the copy center (and pay them), ship them (ditto) all while stoppping the work they are paid to do in the first place and delaying their schedules etc. All in all a waste of a few hours which most probably amounts to more than the market price of such a system. The return: some hacker somewhere will have a little fun with the docs or with the donated hardware. We are paid to do different things even though some of us lurk on the list and want Linux on SGI to be successful. Bill Earl and I together spent several hours to locate, duplicate and ship Indy specs to about 7 people, I'm not sure much ever came out of all this effort so I personally don't feel like I would like to repeat it :-) I'd say, better get an old, used 486. it should cost between $0-$100 and be about as fast. Again: not to sound negative! really, just to tell how this looks from this end. Happy Linuxing. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 13:05:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA43207 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA43745 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA12608 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA12000 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14970 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA5EC4; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:04:03 -0700 Message-ID: <357EE6C1.A424FC67@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:04:17 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.1 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cvs References: <357DA057.AB9EF73B@netscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 445 Lines: 17 Mike Shaver wrote: > I'll do that right now... And I did (almost right away, even!). cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs login (password is "cvs") cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs co linux Although CVS doesn't appear to be honouring the CVSROOT/readers file, :pserver: checkins don't succeed because there's no /var/tmp in the chroot'd area. Not optimal, but it keeps things safe for now. Mike -- 190678.54 157843.71 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 13:17:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA44838 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA11906 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:16:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA77842 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:16:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id NAA16802 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:16:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 20126 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jun 1998 20:14:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:14:58 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Kirkwood Reply-To: Matthew Kirkwood To: Alex deVries cc: SGI/Linux List Subject: Re: 4d/25 docs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1361 Lines: 41 On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > I am none of the following: > - a member of the Inner Circle > - a paid person by SGI > - someone who has his name in kernel CREDITS Snap! *grin* > However, I have a lot of docs from SGI on the Indy hardware, which seem > to improve in quality as you re-read them. Cool. > Seeing as how the Iris is older than the Indy, I'd suspect that there > would be even more likelyhood of you getting access to the docs. I This is what I was hoping, but a couple of people have told me of bad luck so far. But then they all tried the developer support channels, rather than this list, it seems. > expect the biggest restraint will be finding someone within SGI who > has the time to follow this kind of thing up. Certainly William Earl > is a good person to follow up with. I believe Ariel is quite busy these > days. Mr Earl seems to be away until the 29th, but I have[1] high hopes... > Personally, I'd love to see something like the Iris supported. As time > goes on, more an dd more people will want a modern OS with a lower > overhead to run on their retired machines. Indeed. However, Ariel's response was slightly less optimistic than yours, and I don't want to be putting him or any other helpful "insiders" off helping with more useful/realistic things. Cheers, Matthew. [1] Now had; see Ariel's post. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 13:47:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA56791 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA02030 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:46:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA52007 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:46:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (murray@pike.cdrom.com) Received: from pike.cdrom.com (pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA28711 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:46:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (murray@pike.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by pike.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16720 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@pike.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Reply-To: Murray Stokely To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Cheap used SGi boxes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 681 Lines: 17 Does anyone know of a good source for old, used SGi systems? http://www.xsnet.com seems to be the best source I can find on the net for old Indigo II's and such but I can't find much older, cheaper, or more capable of running Linux. I'd really prefer to have something better than 8bit graphics and I guess that limits my choices for low-end systems as well. I didn't have much luck dealing with SGi people directly because they just kept trying to get me to buy a newer system. One system that caught my eye was this one : R4400 200MHz/1MB SC, XL, 64MB, 2GB, 17" $ 1,600 Ea. But last I checked I wouldn't be able to run Linux for quite a while. - Murray From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 14:23:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA62431 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA13672 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA30015 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:23:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id RAA26607; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:23:14 -0400 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA26424; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <357EF804.B1164487@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:17:56 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Cheap used SGi boxes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1924 Lines: 50 Murray Stokely wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good source for old, used SGi systems? > http://www.xsnet.com seems to be the best source I can find on the net > for old Indigo II's and such but I can't find much older, cheaper, or > more capable of running Linux. I'd really prefer to have something > better than 8bit graphics and I guess that limits my choices for > low-end systems as well. I didn't have much luck dealing with SGi > people directly because they just kept trying to get me to buy a newer > system. > > One system that caught my eye was this one : > > R4400 200MHz/1MB SC, XL, 64MB, 2GB, 17" $ 1,600 Ea. > > But last I checked I wouldn't be able to run Linux for quite a while. > > - Murray Go to http://www.sgi.com and search for "Systems remarketing" - there is also a link to their home page on http://www.linux.sgi.com. The ":best" part about these systems is that if purchased today with any kind of hardware support you would also be elegible for IRIX 6.54 upgrades when they become available in the next month or so. Eric. Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" Copyright 1998, Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Confidential to Silicon Graphics Computer Systems ** -- not for redistribution -- ** From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 14:19:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA62139 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA82991 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.38]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA56427 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from fisher@localhost) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA12955; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:18:36 -0700 From: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Message-Id: <199806102118.OAA12955@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Cheap used SGi boxes To: murray@cdrom.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:18:31 -0800 (PDT) Cc: linux@hollywood.engr.sgi.com, fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) In-Reply-To: from "Murray Stokely" at Jun 10, 98 01:47:02 pm Reply-To: fisher@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 973 Lines: 27 > > Does anyone know of a good source for old, used SGi systems? > http://www.xsnet.com seems to be the best source I can find on the net > for old Indigo II's and such but I can't find much older, cheaper, or > more capable of running Linux. I'd really prefer to have something > better than 8bit graphics and I guess that limits my choices for > low-end systems as well. I didn't have much luck dealing with SGi > people directly because they just kept trying to get me to buy a newer > system. > > One system that caught my eye was this one : > > R4400 200MHz/1MB SC, XL, 64MB, 2GB, 17" $ 1,600 Ea. > > But last I checked I wouldn't be able to run Linux for quite a while. > > - Murray > Have you talked with SGI/MIPS Remarketing Business Unit? They sell older machines which have been re-conditioned. I have pointed a couple of ISP's who are using R4K Indigo's as WEB servers to them, since they wanted to buy more machines. -- Bill From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 15:04:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA64407 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA53821 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:03:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA59189 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA00603 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:03:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA28695 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:03:36 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yjtki-000aOnC; Wed, 10 Jun 98 23:53 BST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 98 23:53 BST From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: X and stuff Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 472 Lines: 12 Actually I've been doing somethingwith the info from SGI indirectly. Unfortunately a lot of what we need to do X11 well is in XFree 3.9.* and because XFree have currently got a rather weird policy partly due to Xconsortium we are basically screwed on doing a proper SGI Linux server until they release 4.0 when we get all the current and rather nice XAA code. Right now 3.3 really really wants to believe that all the world has direct access to the frame buffer. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 15:57:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA67727 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA94365 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:56:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA39857 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (dmerchan@HiWAAY.net) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA22326 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:56:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (dmerchan@HiWAAY.net) Received: from HiWAAY.net (tnt1-167.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.167]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06310 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:56:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <357F0FB4.4EA714E5@HiWAAY.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:59:00 -0500 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Cheap used SGi boxes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 961 Lines: 25 Murray Stokely wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good source for old, used SGi systems? > http://www.xsnet.com seems to be the best source I can find on the net > for old Indigo II's and such but I can't find much older, cheaper, or > more capable of running Linux. I'd really prefer to have something > better than 8bit graphics and I guess that limits my choices for > low-end systems as well. I didn't have much luck dealing with SGi > people directly because they just kept trying to get me to buy a newer > system. > > One system that caught my eye was this one : > > R4400 200MHz/1MB SC, XL, 64MB, 2GB, 17" $ 1,600 Ea. > > But last I checked I wouldn't be able to run Linux for quite a while. > > - Murray Does anyone know if an Indigo II like this one can be upgraded to a max impact and if it can, how much that would cost? Or maybe just buy one with max impact already in it and how much IT would cost? Thanks, David From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 10 16:12:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA69814 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA51266 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:11:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA68611 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:11:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ratfink@xtra.co.nz) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA28664 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:11:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ratfink@xtra.co.nz) Received: from xtra.co.nz (xtra185187.xtra.co.nz [202.27.185.187]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09570; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:10:40 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <357F1267.8BF43ACC@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:10:31 +1200 From: Brendan Black Organization: Acess Denied... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Cheap used SGi boxes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1261 Lines: 32 Murray Stokely wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good source for old, used SGi systems? > http://www.xsnet.com seems to be the best source I can find on the net > for old Indigo II's and such but I can't find much older, cheaper, or > more capable of running Linux. I'd really prefer to have something > better than 8bit graphics and I guess that limits my choices for > low-end systems as well. I didn't have much luck dealing with SGi > people directly because they just kept trying to get me to buy a newer > system. > > One system that caught my eye was this one : > > R4400 200MHz/1MB SC, XL, 64MB, 2GB, 17" $ 1,600 Ea. > > But last I checked I wouldn't be able to run Linux for quite a while. > > - Murray try also http://www.reputable.com, I remembered seeing this one on the old SGI systems documentation page at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html -- Brendan Black - Network Engineer, Telecom Internet Services email: ratfink@xtra.co.nz "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." -- Matt Welsh From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 11 10:30:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA50582 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA79376 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:27:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA81754 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:27:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mwfolsom@aptec.com) Received: from ataserver.aptec.com (ataserver.aptec.com [192.160.144.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id KAA02278 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mwfolsom@aptec.com) Received: from aptec.com (192.160.144.50) by ataserver.aptec.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:33:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3580109B.66EFE729@aptec.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:15:07 -0600 From: "Michael W. Folsom" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP20) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Finding used SGI boxes References: <357F1267.8BF43ACC@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 45 Hi: Re: finding a used SGI system. I realize that the origional poster used the word *cheap* in the subject line but I've never found any SGI box to be cheap. Before anybody howls I've got to stress that I'm a very, very big SGI fan. I currently own 3 of 'em myself. But, as they say, you get what you pay for and with SGI you get alot. So, you will seldom if ever find a cheap SGI! But, I digress. Re: the sources for used SGI systems. A couple of people have already mentioned Reputable Systems, their page is at: http://www.reputable.com They have an excellent reputation in the SGI community. At the end of their SGI equipment listing there is a group of links to other SGI sites and the SGI FAQ. One site that's particularly execellent is the "This Old SGI" page at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html (You don't know how many times I wished that there were similar pages for older Sun, Dec, and HP equipment! I've just got hold of a DEC 5000/260 to play with the mips port of Linux on and finding info on the box is very difficult!) I should also mention Minicomputer Exchange. I've dealt with Chris Patterson several times and have no complaints - he's always been pretty easy to work with. He also seems to know a lot about SGI's. Their page is at: http://www.mce.com And finally I shouldn't forget that if you're looking for used SGI equipment lots of stuff shows up on the news groups comp.sys.sgi.marketplace and misc.forsale.computers.workstation. Be well, Michael From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 12 20:56:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA37406 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA38629 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:55:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA49771 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:55:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA06479 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA04345; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:55:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux cc: ewt@redhat.com Subject: Very good news with the installer. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2100 Lines: 58 Perhaps some of you will think: "pfft, it's just an installation tool, and it is just packaging", but... The Red Hat installer now works for SGI/Linux. I'm not saying things are perfect, but I have gotten the following to work: - a proper kernel - a proper root file system that'll work over NFS - a working init - a working install - a working install2 - about 390 binary packages that appear to work I have taken a new Irix-partitioned drive, booted via bootp/tftp/root nfs from my i386 linux box, and installed all the RPMs, and gotten the basics on there. A conservative estimate is that this is a 1,000 times better improvement over the previous system, which was totally horrible. Now, stuff that is definitely broken in this installation: - Some of the packages need to be rebuilt because of issues with them being labelled 'mips' instead of 'mipseb'. This is good for another thread. glibc is the big one, and I'll try to build it over night. - There's no fdisk or partitioning working. You know who you are. Cough up the fdisk code, we need it! - There's no X, yet. - Some packages do not yet compile or have not yet been packaged or ported. The big ones are: - XFree86 (shaver's working on this) - gnome (this should be possible, just takes more determination) - egcs (Ralf's working on packaging it) - a lot of little ones like ImageMagick, ppp, ncpfs, sliplogin... I'm reasonably confident that all these will make it given a bit of time. A lot of them are trivial to package. I'm not going to release the whole thing until after I get glibc packaged properly. With luck, the whole thing will be packaged by tomorrow morning. I was having connection problems to ftp.linux.sgi.com earlier today, so hopefully I will be able to upload sometime tomorrow (Saturday). The total distribution is around 250MB. I am really happy with this. 6 months of pretty hard work (especially since January) are actually producing something useful. We've all done very well. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 13 21:45:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA50106 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA64852 for linux-list; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA32683 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA03659 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:44:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA29248; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:44:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:44:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux cc: wanger@redhat.com, ewt@redhat.com Subject: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4567 Lines: 155 It's here! Well, it is uploading. There are definite problems, but it works reasonably well for me. Please let me know if you use this. You can get everything from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/redhat/redhat-5.1. We need to sort out some issues with how to actually download it from the 'net... Instructions are below. Ugh, I'm glad this is out there. I'm taking tomorrow off. -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . Red Hat 5.1 (Manhattan) for SGI Indy's version 5.1 ALPHA 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- This is neither a product of Red Hat nor of SGI. These are instructions on how to get the unofficial port of Red Hat version 5.1 running on your Indy. Stuff you'll need: - an SGI Indy. At this point, I'd STRONGLY recommend having a seperate disk for Linux. - You need to have your Linux disk partitioned from within Irix. - You need Irix on the machine in order to install the boot image. Yes, we're working on this. - another host to bootp/tftp/NFS root from. For this example I'll assume that you're using a Red Hat Linux i386 system, although other configurations will be possible. - a lot of patience. You are strongly encouraged to report problems and feedback back to Alex deVries Alright. Here's what you need to do to get this all running: 1. Server side. On your i386, setup the following: a) Setup tftp You need to have the following lines configured in your /etc/inetd.conf: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd \ /usr/src/sgi/installfs/ bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/bootpd /etc/bootptab I'm using /usr/src/sgi/installfs for all my file placement. You can choose something else if youwant. After changing that, restart inetd with something like /etc/rc.d/init.d/inetd restart. b) Setup bootp You need to setup your /etc/bootptab file to contain: alex3:hd=/usr/src/sgi/installfs:\ :rp=/usr/src/sgi/installfs:\ :ht=ethernet:\ :ha=080069088717:\ :ip=140.244.9.208:\ :bf=vmlinux:\ :sm=255.255.255.0:\ :to=7200: Here, alex3 is the name of the SGI host, 080069088717 is the mac address of the SGI which you'll have to get from Irix, and 140.244.9.208 is the address of the SGI/Linux box. Modify to taste. c) Setup root NFS permissions Ensure that in your /etc/exports you have something like: /usr/src/sgi/installfs 140.244.9.208(no_root_squash,rw) d) copy all the files Take all the installation files from ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/redhat/redhat-5.1 and put them in /usr/src/sgi/installfs. Yes, you'll need to preserve permissions. 2. Configure your disks With Irix tools, create an EFS partition on your Linux disk. At this point, a swap partition won't be recognized. Yes, we're working on it. 3. Start the install Alright. This is the fun part. Assuming all your bootp/tftp/nfs root stuff is working properly, you should be able to just go into the command monitor (boot manager) and go: boot bootp():/vmlinux You should see the kernel load, and install should run. 4. The actual install Just go through the dialog boxes. A few notes: - any references to partitioning don't actually work - you will see funny partitions when it asks you to set a mount point. Do actually set a mount point, though. Remember that Irix has the concept of volume headers, so you typically want to take the *first* and slightly smaller partition for your / filesystem. - ignore the dependancies errors, yes, we'll get to it too. - you'll get a lot of warnings once the install starts saying: "RPM install of diffutils failed: execution of script failed". We're working on it. Just hit Ok. 5. Configure your kernel Boot in Irix, then copy over vmlinux which is in /usr/src/sgi/installfs/vmlinux to the / of your Irix filesystem. Then, from within the boot manager, you should be able to boot with: boot vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 Presto! 6. Last, but not least Let us know if it worked! Stuff that we're working on: - Sorting out the problems with the installer not running the scripts. It's bloody annoying hitting return 50 times in the install. rpm-devel is suspect so far. - filling in the missing packages, including XFree86 - disk partitioning - being able to install a kernel without having to have Irix around. - swap partition support in the setup - trim down the install filesystem, it is enormous - creating a CREDITS file From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 14 10:24:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA62435 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA51950 for linux-list; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA97209 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA21484 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:23:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.29]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07605 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:23:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07563; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:23:46 +0200 Message-ID: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:23:46 +0200 To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: ssh binaries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1713 Lines: 24 Hi all, I've uploaded ssh binaries, both big endian and little endian, international and us-damaged (read: rsaref) versions to ftp.replay.com:/pub/crypto/incoming/. The binaries are probably somewhen going to be moved to their final place. Ralf -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 75619 Jun 14 16:39 ssh-1.2.25-1i.mipseb.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 169412 Jun 14 17:00 ssh-1.2.25-1i.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 75499 Jun 14 17:02 ssh-1.2.25-1us.mipseb.rpm-rw------- 1 usura crypto 169216 Jun 14 17:13 ssh-1.2.25-1us.mipsel.rpm-rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 237156 Jun 14 16:41 ssh-clients-1.2.25-1i.mipseb.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 237981 Jun 14 17:04 ssh-clients-1.2.25-1i.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 246165 Jun 14 17:03 ssh-clients-1.2.25-1us.mipseb.rpm -rw------- 1 usura crypto 246256 Jun 14 17:16 ssh-clients-1.2.25-1us.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 20327 Jun 14 16:41 ssh-extras-1.2.25-1i.mipseb.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 22981 Jun 14 17:04 ssh-extras-1.2.25-1i.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 20361 Jun 14 17:04 ssh-extras-1.2.25-1us.mipseb.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 20361 Jun 14 17:04 ssh-extras-1.2.25-1us.mipseb.rpm -rw------- 1 usura crypto 23147 Jun 14 17:16 ssh-extras-1.2.25-1us.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 123987 Jun 14 16:42 ssh-server-1.2.25-1i.mipseb.rpm -rw------- 1 usura crypto 126500 Jun 14 17:09 ssh-server-1.2.25-1i.mipsel.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 usura crypto 129127 Jun 14 17:05 ssh-server-1.2.25-1us.mipseb.rpm -rw------- 1 usura crypto 131265 Jun 14 17:17 ssh-server-1.2.25-1us.mipsel.rpm From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 14 13:36:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA62305 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA81913 for linux-list; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:35:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA94467 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:35:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA23712 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 13:35:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18334 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:35:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:35:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: linus.linux.sgi.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 166 Lines: 11 Erg. Linus.linux.sgi.com is dead. Can someone at SGI take a look at this? - A -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 15 11:03:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA78743 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA51722 for linux-list; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from piecomputer.engr.sgi.com (piecomputer.engr.sgi.com [150.166.105.8]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA26306; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:02:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mende@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from mende@localhost) by piecomputer.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA48935; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806151802.LAA48935@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com> From: Bob Mende Pie To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: (message from Alex deVries on Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:35:27 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: linus.linux.sgi.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1642 Lines: 33 > Erg. Linus.linux.sgi.com is dead. Can someone at SGI take a look at > this? > > - A linus.linux.sgi.com is back up. Here is the story of what is happening. As some of you may know linus is a 150Mhz R4400 indy with a pair of dual 1.2g disks setup as a pair of software mirrored plexs. These disks are in a external enclosure that can not fit in a rack, and due to other happenings in the area that linus sits in this has become an issue. Thus last thursday Dave Katinsky (The SA who runs the lab) aquireed a vault with 4 2g diff scsi disks, and a 180Mhz R5000 challenge/S. We swapped the two internal disks into the new system and brought it up with the original disks still on it. It was running just fine. Sometime after 1900 last night, the system died with a hardware ECC error in the cache. We swapped the cpu from the old system (which was sitting there just in case a disaster happened) into the new box. It is back up again. If anyone notices problems with the system, please contact mende@engr.sgi.com and dmk@engr.sgi.com. As for our plans for the disks. I want to make a mirrored plex of 2x2x2g drives, but one of the 4 disks in this system is not working correctly. I am trying to find a way to ensure that /src is mirrored or start a process to get it backed up (which cant be automated, and thus, IMHO, is not a good idea). We may be able to get a small rack of disks use instead of the one with the bad disk or may get a replacment disk. More when I know it. /Bob... mailto:mende@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/mende KF6EID From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 15 11:12:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA85076 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA78567 for linux-list; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:12:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA47868; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA29554; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:11:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22959; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:11:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:11:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Bob Mende Pie cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: linus.linux.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199806151802.LAA48935@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2386 Lines: 60 Bob/David: Thanks for looking into this; this is much appreciated since I expect there'll be quite a bit more traffic to the machine in the next little bit. It sounds to me like we are getting to the point of having a sane enough system to actually run Linux for linus.linux.sgi.com. Has anyone considered this? - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Bob Mende Pie wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:02:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Mende Pie > To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca > Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@engr.sgi.com > Subject: Re: linus.linux.sgi.com > > > Erg. Linus.linux.sgi.com is dead. Can someone at SGI take a look at > > this? > > > > - A > > linus.linux.sgi.com is back up. Here is the story of what is happening. > > As some of you may know linus is a 150Mhz R4400 indy with a pair of dual > 1.2g disks setup as a pair of software mirrored plexs. These disks are in > a external enclosure that can not fit in a rack, and due to other > happenings in the area that linus sits in this has become an issue. > > Thus last thursday Dave Katinsky (The SA who runs the lab) aquireed a vault > with 4 2g diff scsi disks, and a 180Mhz R5000 challenge/S. We swapped the > two internal disks into the new system and brought it up with the original > disks still on it. It was running just fine. Sometime after 1900 last > night, the system died with a hardware ECC error in the cache. We swapped > the cpu from the old system (which was sitting there just in case a > disaster happened) into the new box. It is back up again. If anyone > notices problems with the system, please contact mende@engr.sgi.com and > dmk@engr.sgi.com. > > As for our plans for the disks. I want to make a mirrored plex of 2x2x2g > drives, but one of the 4 disks in this system is not working correctly. I > am trying to find a way to ensure that /src is mirrored or start a process > to get it backed up (which cant be automated, and thus, IMHO, is not a good > idea). We may be able to get a small rack of disks use instead of the one > with the bad disk or may get a replacment disk. > > More when I know it. > > /Bob... mailto:mende@sgi.com > http://reality.sgi.com/mende KF6EID > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 15 17:16:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA38631 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA24070 for linux-list; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:16:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA18075 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:15:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from rubella.ecst.csuchico.edu (rubella.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.4.10]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id RAA11993 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:15:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 13800 invoked by uid 3636); 15 Jun 1998 17:15:57 -0700 Message-ID: <19980615171556.B13655@ecst.csuchico.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:15:56 -0700 From: "D.A. Harris" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: ridiculous question. . . ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 469 Lines: 10 But I just couldn't help asking. (So sue me. ;-) Any chance Maya will be ported to SGI/Linux? Yes, I know we don't have a working version of X yet, no OpenGL support, but. . . Maya is pretty cool, and Linux kicks ass over NT. ;) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dale Harris PGP KeyID: E26EC5FD http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~rodmur/ |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+| From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 15 17:39:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA37849 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA84267 for linux-list; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:38:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA38517 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:38:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA19128 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:38:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA01726; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:38:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "D.A. Harris" cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ridiculous question. . . ;) In-Reply-To: <19980615171556.B13655@ecst.csuchico.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 310 Lines: 12 On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, D.A. Harris wrote: > > But I just couldn't help asking. (So sue me. ;-) Any chance Maya will > be ported to SGI/Linux? Yes, I know we don't have a working version of > X yet, no OpenGL support, but. . . Maya is pretty cool, and Linux kicks > ass over NT. ;) What's Maya? - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 16 08:47:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA59385 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA71175 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:47:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA56971 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA07023 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:47:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14782; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:46:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03918; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:46:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28259; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:46:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806161546.RAA28259@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 14, 98 00:44:23 am" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:46:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1692 Lines: 41 > > 6. Last, but not least > > Let us know if it worked! Great! It worked. I mean: it worked! I've installed it from our mirror at ftp.fi.muni.cz to an old 300 MB disk. After some fiddling with the ftp server to support tftp correctly and after one crash with some message about signal 11 (caused by the disk, I believe) it's now installed and running. Some comments out of my head: The /usr/sbin/timeconfig failed in the menu -- it doesn't seem to be present in the installfs -- shall I find and compile it? I've set up root password in the menu but it wasn't there after reboot -- not even /etc/passwd -- I had to boot init=/bin/bash. I had to install gcc from RH 5.0. Mkswap failed with segmantation fault -- shall I send the register output? I will try to compile my own, but the machine is slow without swap, and I need to compile ssh first to get reasonable remote access. Once this is done, we might be able to provide ssh*.mips.rpm, if you are interested. It might be nice to put the notice about this 5.1 on the web, so that people are directed to the new stuff -- even this, plain text announce and instructions would be nice. As I have the system on a disk, it's much happier and it starts to look really reasonably. I will boot my machine to Linux and run the compilations of ssh and linux-utils (for mkswap) overnight. If there is anything I can compile/test/do to help you, please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 16 09:09:13 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA59775 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA34732 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA12092 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:08:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA16194 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA28860; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:07:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Honza Pazdziora cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys In-Reply-To: <199806161546.RAA28259@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1588 Lines: 48 On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > > 6. Last, but not least > > Let us know if it worked! > Great! It worked. I mean: it worked! Wuhoo! > Some comments out of my head: > The /usr/sbin/timeconfig failed in the menu -- it doesn't seem to be > present in the installfs -- shall I find and compile it? I'll fix that right now... thanks. > I've set up root password in the menu but it wasn't there after > reboot -- not even /etc/passwd -- I had to boot init=/bin/bash. Do you mean that /etc/passwd didn't exist at all? > I had to install gcc from RH 5.0. Yup. That's because I just forgot to put gcc in there altogether. That'll be fixed. > Mkswap failed with segmantation fault -- shall I send the register > output? I will try to compile my own, but the machine is slow without > swap, and I need to compile ssh first to get reasonable remote access. > Once this is done, we might be able to provide ssh*.mips.rpm, if you > are interested. Do you mean that mkswap segfaulted during install, or after? I'll have a closer look. The util-linux we're using is a little old. > It might be nice to put the notice about this 5.1 on the web, so that > people are directed to the new stuff -- even this, plain text announce > and instructions would be nice. Definitely. I will do that, although I welcome any help with documenting this. We actually already have ssh on ftp.replay.com, IIRC. I'm in the US (sigh...) so I can't export it. If you were interested, you could have a look at getting a util-linux RPM up to version 2.8. util-linux is a gross thing. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 16 11:27:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA71299 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA37169 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA72228 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA00453 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:26:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20608; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:25:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08963; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:25:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05307; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:25:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806161825.UAA05307@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 16, 98 12:07:58 pm" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:25:48 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adelton@informatics.muni.cz, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1429 Lines: 34 > > > I've set up root password in the menu but it wasn't there after > > reboot -- not even /etc/passwd -- I had to boot init=/bin/bash. > > Do you mean that /etc/passwd didn't exist at all? Right. I can repeat the installation from the scratch tomorrow and have closer look at the other consoles. But neither passwd, nor shadow existed. > Do you mean that mkswap segfaulted during install, or after? I'll have a > closer look. The util-linux we're using is a little old. I'm not sure what happened during install -- I just wanted to have it done to see the real prompt ;-) But when I tried mkswap /dev/sdb2 on the prompt, it said something about freeing free buffer? (or whatever) and then gave register dump. Sorry, I'm at home and can't get to the machine because sshd isn't running there yet, so I will send the exact output tomorrow. > We actually already have ssh on ftp.replay.com, IIRC. I'm in the US > (sigh...) so I can't export it. No problem, I thing we can add mips.rpm to out ssh mirror. > If you were interested, you could have a look at getting a util-linux RPM > up to version 2.8. util-linux is a gross thing. OK, I'll try. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 16 13:25:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA71860 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA85344 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA68101 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:25:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (tomilepp@ousrvr2.oulu.fi) Received: from ousrvr2.oulu.fi (ousrvr2.oulu.fi [130.231.240.7]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA28970 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (tomilepp@ousrvr2.oulu.fi) Received: (from tomilepp@localhost) by ousrvr2.oulu.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA28706 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:25:08 +0300 (EET DST) From: Tomi Leppikangas Message-Id: <199806162025.XAA28706@ousrvr2.oulu.fi> Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:25:08 +0300 (EET DST) In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 14, 98 00:44:23 am" Reply-To: Tomi.Leppikangas@oulu.fi X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 770 Lines: 23 Hi, I tryed to install that new 5.1 redhad tonight, but installation stops when selecting partitions, i cant make swap partition, and installation wont continue without any swap. I partitioned second disk in irix, and in boot linux finds it, but both partitions are 'linux native', i cant change them to 'linux swap' becouse fdisk segfaults in installation. Should that fdisk work? Could that segfault be becouse i have two disks, one id=0 and second id=3. Any way to install it without swap? Or how to force sdb2 to be swap partition? In that announcment posting there was 'copy all files from...', i just copied "installfs.tgz" and untar it, is all files in that? -- ## Tomi.Leppikangas@oulu.fi ## ## http://www.student.oulu.fi/~tomilepp/ ## From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 16 15:24:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA81354 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA69381 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA99979 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from rubella.ecst.csuchico.edu (rubella.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.4.10]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id PAA07595 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:22:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 25809 invoked by uid 3636); 16 Jun 1998 15:22:41 -0700 Message-ID: <19980616152241.D25396@ecst.csuchico.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:22:41 -0700 From: "D.A. Harris" To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ridiculous question. . . ;) References: <19980615171556.B13655@ecst.csuchico.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 08:38:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 875 Lines: 20 On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 08:38:02PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > What's Maya? > > - Alex The replacement for Alias from Alias/Wavefront, a subsidary of SGI. Maya is Powerful 3D animation software, what I've seen and what my boss and co-workers are saying is that it very intuitive to use, so far they love it, one of the animators say it is more useful than Lightwave. Course right now it is only available for IRIX, and cost in the neighborhood of $40,000 (unless you can get it on some educational discount). An NT port is in the works by Alias/Wavefront. Yeah, I know, I'll never see it on Linux, and I'm wasting bandwidth. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dale Harris PGP KeyID: E26EC5FD http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~rodmur/ |+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+| From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 05:42:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA93556 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA78213 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:41:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA90195 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:41:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz ([147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA14225 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 05:41:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03295 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:40:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13018 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:40:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04748 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:40:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806171240.OAA04748@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: ssh 1.2.25 mipseb rpm In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 16, 98 12:10:08 pm" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:40:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 466 Lines: 14 Hello, I've displayed mipseb rpms of ssh on ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/ssh/local-fi.muni.cz/linux/ You need all four rpms for complete system. The rpms were compiled without the X11 support. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 08:43:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA35613 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA33725 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:43:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA74834 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:43:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA95711 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:43:11 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806171543.IAA95711@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: (fwd) linux SEGV details To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2614 Lines: 84 [forwarding bounced message from non subscriber] ----- Forwarded message from owner-linux@cthulhu ----- To: adelton@informatics.muni.cz (Honza Pazdziora) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:18:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, adelton@informatics.muni.cz, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Honza Pazdziora wrote: > > Do you mean that mkswap segfaulted during install, or after? I'll have a > > closer look. The util-linux we're using is a little old. It segfault during install _and_ after install when we tried to set up swap space manualy. > > I'm not sure what happened during install -- I just wanted to have it > done to see the real prompt ;-) But when I tried mkswap /dev/sdb2 on > the prompt, it said something about freeing free buffer? (or whatever) > and then gave register dump. Sorry, I'm at home and can't get to the > machine because sshd isn't running there yet, so I will send the exact > output tomorrow. Honza is not yet here, so there is the output: #mkswap /dev/sdb2 Segmentation fault # and on console (there is no syslogd :( ) is: #dmesg [...skipped...] VFS: brelse: Trying to free free buffer Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00050040, epc == 88041e7c, ra == 880464e0 Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 88140000 00000028 00000009 $4 : 00050028 00000001 bf0f0000 00000000 $8 : 00000720 00000000 00000000 00000000 $12: 00000008 000003e2 8836e59c 7ffffcf0 $16: 00050028 894c7c88 894c7d80 00000001 $20: 00000000 00000000 894c7c80 00000000 $24: 00000001 7ffffcf1 $28: 894c6000 894c7c58 00000000 880464e0 epc : 88041e7c Status: 3000fc03 Cause : 00000008 [and just another attempt to mkswap...] VFS: brelse: Trying to free free buffer Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00050040, epc == 88041e7c, ra == 880464e0 Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 88140000 00000028 00000009 $4 : 00050028 00000001 bf0f0000 00000000 $8 : 00000720 00000000 00000000 00000000 $12: 00000008 000003e2 8836e59c 7ffffcf0 $16: 00050028 894c7c88 894c7d80 00000001 $20: 00000000 00000000 894c7c80 00000000 $24: 00000001 7ffffcf1 $28: 894c6000 894c7c58 00000000 880464e0 epc : 88041e7c Status: 3000fc03 Cause : 00000008 The same with recompiled mkswap. Hope it helps. I tried to compile our (international) ssh, but it ends with "not enough memory" :( This indy has 32MB ram, maybe I will shut down our web server and boot linux there, it has little bit more RAM and is faster... No, that's not goot idea :-( david kostal (kron@fi.muni.cz) ----+ ----- End of forwarded message from owner-linux@cthulhu ----- -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 09:08:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA29440 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA09109 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:07:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA45192 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA95977 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806171607.JAA95977@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details (another one) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2618 Lines: 90 ----- Forwarded message from David Kostal ----- >From kron@informatics.muni.cz Wed Jun 17 08:59:20 1998 From: David Kostal Message-Id: <199806171559.RAA13325@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details In-Reply-To: <199806171543.IAA95711@oz.engr.sgi.com> from Ariel Faigon at "Jun 17, 98 08:43:11 am" To: ariel@cthulhu Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:59:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > #mkswap /dev/sdb2 > Segmentation fault > # > > and on console (there is no syslogd :( ) is: > > #dmesg > [...skipped...] > VFS: brelse: Trying to free free buffer > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00050040, > epc == 88041e7c, ra == 880464e0 > Oops: 0000 > $0 : 00000000 88140000 00000028 00000009 > $4 : 00050028 00000001 bf0f0000 00000000 > $8 : 00000720 00000000 00000000 00000000 > $12: 00000008 000003e2 8836e59c 7ffffcf0 > $16: 00050028 894c7c88 894c7d80 00000001 > $20: 00000000 00000000 894c7c80 00000000 > $24: 00000001 7ffffcf1 > $28: 894c6000 894c7c58 00000000 880464e0 > epc : 88041e7c > Status: 3000fc03 > Cause : 00000008 > > > [and just another attempt to mkswap...] > VFS: brelse: Trying to free free buffer > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00050040, > epc == 88041e7c, ra == 880464e0 > Oops: 0000 > $0 : 00000000 88140000 00000028 00000009 > $4 : 00050028 00000001 bf0f0000 00000000 > $8 : 00000720 00000000 00000000 00000000 > $12: 00000008 000003e2 8836e59c 7ffffcf0 > $16: 00050028 894c7c88 894c7d80 00000001 > $20: 00000000 00000000 894c7c80 00000000 > $24: 00000001 7ffffcf1 > $28: 894c6000 894c7c58 00000000 880464e0 > epc : 88041e7c > Status: 3000fc03 > Cause : 00000008 > > The same with recompiled mkswap. > New report :-) It looks like mkswap is not able to determine the size of (swap) partition. If I try to do #mkswap /dev/sdb2 1024 it works OK. When I try #mke2fs /dev/sdb2, it works fine too, but #dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/dev/null segfaults (and kernel messages are nearly the same as massages from mkswap). dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/null works ok. Disc is partitioned from Irix 5.3, /dev/sdb1 is swap, /dev/sdb2 is ext2 with sgi/linux installed on it. I have noticed another problem. Linux happily mounts the same swap-file twice and if the system needs to swap, kswapd starts to run at 60% CPU (or more) and the system slows down to death. david kostal (kron@fi.muni.cz) ----+ ----- End of forwarded message from David Kostal ----- -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 09:57:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA40686 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA75227 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:56:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA86353; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA07314; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:56:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17282; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:56:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15281; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:56:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22811; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:56:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806171656.SAA22811@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details In-Reply-To: <199806171543.IAA95711@oz.engr.sgi.com> from Ariel Faigon at "Jun 17, 98 08:43:11 am" To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:56:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2406 Lines: 60 > > output tomorrow. > > Honza is not yet here, so there is the output: > > #mkswap /dev/sdb2 > Segmentation fault > # > > and on console (there is no syslogd :( ) is: > > #dmesg > [...skipped...] > VFS: brelse: Trying to free free buffer > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00050040, > epc == 88041e7c, ra == 880464e0 > Oops: 0000 > $0 : 00000000 88140000 00000028 00000009 > $4 : 00050028 00000001 bf0f0000 00000000 > $8 : 00000720 00000000 00000000 00000000 > $12: 00000008 000003e2 8836e59c 7ffffcf0 > $16: 00050028 894c7c88 894c7d80 00000001 > $20: 00000000 00000000 894c7c80 00000000 > $24: 00000001 7ffffcf1 > $28: 894c6000 894c7c58 00000000 880464e0 > epc : 88041e7c > Status: 3000fc03 > Cause : 00000008 OK, I once ( ;-) ) got to run the mkswap /dev/sdb2 OK. Before that I tried dd if=/deb/sdb2 of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=1 and mkswap /dev/sdb2 1024. These are two steps that lead to mkswap /dev/sdb2 without fail, creating 40 MB (correct) swap partition. I do not know who caused it, whether that dd or that mkswap. Now it seems that mkswap /dev/sdb2 35000 (eg with some size argument) works fine. But I never got to make it work without the size parameter again. David says that mkswap might have problems determining the size of the partition. Also dd, when let to run over the whole device fails with the same message about freeing free. But David says he was successful running mkfs on that partition. Weird, but I'm now happy it runs with something smaller (I do not know (am lazy to find out) the exact size of the partition) swap. In the meantime I played with swap into file and found some other bugs. First, there are two swapon -a commands in rc.sysinit. When I had that swapfile specified in /etc/fstab, it got swaponed twice. Brrr. I had to do one swapoff to make it look normal. Even if I had it only once (added manually) the machine was very unhappy with the swapfile. Kswapd was taking a lot of CPU, the load was growing and occassionally the machine was unusable -- too slow that I had to resume to hard reset. But as I say, with swap into the partition, it looks fine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 10:01:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA37176 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA83158 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA56753 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA09629 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17406 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:01:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15408 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:01:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23039 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:01:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806171701.TAA23039@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: What is the config of the kernel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:01:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 640 Lines: 15 Hello, what is the correct kernel configuration for that 2.1.99 in the RH 5.1 Alpha 1? We tried to take regular kernel, make config and make dep run fine but then it failed with a lot of messages (I can send them if needed). So the question is: when I would like to try to compile my own kernel (just for the fun of it ;-), what are the recommended steps? Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 10:45:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA46952 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA24584 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA66532 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:44:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA02973 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA09448; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:44:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:44:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Honza Pazdziora cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: What is the config of the kernel In-Reply-To: <199806171701.TAA23039@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 658 Lines: 19 On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > Hello, > > what is the correct kernel configuration for that 2.1.99 in the RH 5.1 > Alpha 1? We tried to take regular kernel, make config and make dep run > fine but then it failed with a lot of messages (I can send them if > needed). So the question is: when I would like to try to compile my > own kernel (just for the fun of it ;-), what are the recommended steps? That is a good question, and one I'm solving now. You need the kernel out of the CVS; the regular one will not work. I'm in the midst of packaging up the kernel source as an RPM, complete with a default config. Give me 24 hours. - alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 10:58:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA34821 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA48955 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA03489 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:56:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA09818 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19598; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:56:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16943; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:56:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26898; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:56:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806171756.TAA26898@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: What is the config of the kernel In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 17, 98 01:44:04 pm" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:56:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adelton@informatics.muni.cz, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 696 Lines: 16 > > That is a good question, and one I'm solving now. > > You need the kernel out of the CVS; the regular one will not work. > > I'm in the midst of packaging up the kernel source as an RPM, complete > with a default config. Give me 24 hours. ;-) It's yours. BTW, I now checked that sysklog-1.3.26-1 from hurricane contrib can be compiled and run without problem. I have it in mips.rpm -- shall I upload it somewhere? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 11:11:05 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA47440 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA91819 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA85517 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:10:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA17421 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA10541; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:10:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Honza Pazdziora cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: What is the config of the kernel In-Reply-To: <199806171756.TAA26898@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 531 Lines: 15 On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > ;-) It's yours. BTW, I now checked that sysklog-1.3.26-1 from hurricane > contrib can be compiled and run without problem. I have it in mips.rpm > -- shall I upload it somewhere? I've got the one from Manhattan done, so that's okay. And, uh, you are generating your packages as 'mipseb', not 'mips', eh? 'mips' in RPM is something we need to stamp out ASAP. It's clear I need to be a bit quicker in my uploading updates so that we don't end up replicating work. Sorry... - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 11:19:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA36324 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA06547 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA82172 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA22114 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11038 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:19:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Stuff that needs to be done. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 5051 Lines: 225 In a fury of organization and managment, I wrote down a list of packages and things that need to be fixed. Please discuss, or take one of them on. Or, tell me what else needs to go on this list or what we can cross off. I'm operating on the assumption that I have the most up to date packages. If you have something newer send it to the list, or at least me. They are roughly in order of priority. Packages that are currently broken in some way: ----------------------------------------------- - termcap appears to be broken in the current install. I know I have a functioning one on my machine, but that doesn't preclude the RPMified one being broken. (Thanks to Mike Shaver for reporting this) - something appears to be wrong with mkswap Components that we definitely intend on fixing for inclusion: ------------------------------------------------------------- The install program and distribution Lots wrong here... the comps list, we need an initrd, etc. XFree86-75dpi-fonts XFree86-libs XFree86 Huge problems here with building the X server itself, although both Ralf and Mike are working on this. There's a good chance of creating a .src.rpm for the fonts and libs, though. Ralf has released an up to date patch that lets you build the libraries. libstdc++ libstdc++-devel egcs egcs-c++ We have both rths and Ralf's sources for egcs that appear to work. All that needs to be done is packaging. gcc For inclusion in the packaging, it should really be regenerated from the source RPM. Needs lots of building time. kernel kernel-source kernel-headers The entire kernel source package needs to be regenerated. modutils Easy, just need to package the functional modutils that's in the CVS on linus. netscape-common netscape-communicator The whole thing needs to be patched, I haven't even started to think about it. Obviously we will have to include Mozilla. strace Even the CVS version of this dies on compile. xxgdb This requires gdb to work first. binutils This should be regenerated from the source RPM for 5.1. glibc This should be updated for pthreads (Ralf). emacs emacs-X11 emacs-nox What a pain. We need to setup some configurations, and debugging anything takes 4 hours to rebuild. This needs patience. clock Needs to be completely redone because there's no clock on the ISA bus. Applications that really should be fixed before we release the final version: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mkinitrd Architecture not currently supported, should be easy to fix. xpm xpm-devel xv This can't compile because it needs csh in the building, and tcsh currently hangs. ical Ical thinks it is compiling on Irix, and so dies on with strncasecmp(). fvwm2 fvwm2-icons Somehow, fvwm2 doesn't compile everything on a build. postgresql postgresql-clients postgresql-data postgresql-devel This is huge, and the source is broken for mipseb. I think it thinks this is IRIX. ppp Gets problems with compiling, dies with FD_ZERO problems. quota Architecture not supported. smbfs Architecture support not included. mawk This dies on compile with floating point errors. mars-nwe Architecture specific. ypserv Problems linking on gdbm; for some reason -lgdbm isnt' set. ncpfs Problems with socket.h. acm Thinks it is Irix in the configure. dip Unknown. xlispstat Architecture unsupported. smbfs Architecture not supported. xosview Architecture unsupported. kaffe Architecture unsupported. ElectricFence Source level architecture problems. ImageMagick Has problems building, and finishes with: install -m 0755 utils/fvwmrc_c5 utils/fvwmrc_cntize_pixmaps \n /vntize_pixmaps /vt/usr/X11R6/bin in %install cmu-snmp cmu-snmp-utils Problems compiling, and finishes with conflicting internal types. ipxutils This is byte order dependant. I suspect the Sparc folks would like this. We should investigate both m68k and sparc patches. Things that don't belong in this architecture --------------------------------------------- aout-libs I'm not sure. bin86 Too difficult to do. kernel-pcmcia-cs No SGIs with PCMCIA, I suspect. lilo We need a different boot loader. sndconfig There is no sound support at all yet. zgv SVGATextMode svgalib svgalib-devel vga_cardgames vga_gamespack My SGI doesn't have VGA... xdosemu dosemu Emulate DOS on a MIPS? Not right away. mkboodisk SGI's don't have bootdisks, never mind. aboot I'm not sure what this is. isapnptools No ISA bus on an SGI. ld.so libc Mipseb is only glibc. minlabel This is for Alpha disk labels. mouseconfig There's only ever one type of mouse... quickstrip I don't remember what this is. rhs-hwdiag This requires a lot of hacking to get it to handle non-i386. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 12:17:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA51583 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA97253 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:17:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA28158 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:17:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA23077 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:17:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09304 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:16:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00661; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:16:24 +0200 Message-ID: <19980617211616.A410@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:16:16 +0200 To: Honza Pazdziora , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ssh 1.2.25 mipseb rpm References: <199806171240.OAA04748@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <199806171240.OAA04748@aisa.fi.muni.cz>; from Honza Pazdziora on Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:40:48PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 737 Lines: 18 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:40:48PM +0200, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > I've displayed mipseb rpms of ssh on > > ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/ssh/local-fi.muni.cz/linux/ > > You need all four rpms for complete system. The rpms were compiled > without the X11 support. Last Sunday or so I've uploaded a full set of RPMs including X11 support to ftp.replay.com. That included all the combinations of big and little endian, international and US versions. To avoid legal problems the rpms are only available on ftp.replay.com which is in the Netherlands. Another legal kludge is the special US version. It uses the RSAREF reference implementation which is requered to to the legal braindamage in the US also known as software patents. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 12:23:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA52607 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA86743 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:22:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA16707; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:22:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA26867; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:22:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09696; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:21:18 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00670; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:20:49 +0200 Message-ID: <19980617212049.B410@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:20:49 +0200 To: Ariel Faigon , SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details (another one) References: <199806171607.JAA95977@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <199806171607.JAA95977@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 09:07:22AM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 420 Lines: 11 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 09:07:22AM -0700, Ariel Faigon wrote: > I have noticed another problem. Linux happily mounts the same > swap-file twice and if the system needs to swap, kswapd starts to run > at 60% CPU (or more) and the system slows down to death. On what kernel did this happen? Some Linux kernels in the 2.1.x series had this problem in the generic swap code, it's was not a specific MIPS problem. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 13:01:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA56761 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA29959 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:01:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA43128 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:01:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (stuart@gnqs.org) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id MAA16096 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:58:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (stuart@gnqs.org) Received: from (askone.demon.co.uk) [194.222.7.179] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ymOLu-000722-00; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:58:39 +0000 Received: from myrddraal.octopus.com (myrddraal.octopus-technologies.com [172.16.1.2]) by askone.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04957 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:57:37 GMT From: "Stuart Herbert, GNQS Maintainer" To: "Linux/SGI List" Subject: Linux/SGI and processor sets Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bd9a2a$21972760$020110ac@myrddraal.octopus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1118 Lines: 30 Hi everyone, I've joined the Linux/SGI mailing list looking for (at first) information about a specific feature-set ... my apologies if I've come to the wrong place. IRIX 5.x, and IRIX 6.0-6.3 provides support for 'processor sets' through the sysmp(2) system call, and the pset(1) binary. This particular feature-set is popular amongst users of Generic NQS, a batch processing system I maintain. It's so popular, in fact, that there's been a lot of interest amongst my users in adding this feature-set to Linux. It occurred to me that the Linux/SGI port *might* include adding this support to Linux. Is sysmp(2) and pset(1) on your TODO list? If not, then I wrote a (crude - I'm not much of a kernel hacker) patch which implemented all the pset stuff for sysmp(2), and a basic pset(1) binary which may be of interest. The patch is against an old 2.0 kernel, and needs a small fix to actually work (I don't actually have a SMP box of my own). Best regards, Stu -- Stuart Herbert s.herbert@sheffield.ac.uk Generic NQS Maintainer http://www.shef.ac.uk/~nqs -- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 14:56:36 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA69579 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA78597 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA26777; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:56:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA21039; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:56:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26884; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:56:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22805; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:56:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07993; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:56:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806172156.XAA07993@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details (another one) In-Reply-To: <19980617212049.B410@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at "Jun 17, 98 09:20:49 pm" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:56:20 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 624 Lines: 13 > > > I have noticed another problem. Linux happily mounts the same > > swap-file twice and if the system needs to swap, kswapd starts to run > > at 60% CPU (or more) and the system slows down to death. > > On what kernel did this happen? Some Linux kernels in the 2.1.x series 2.1.99 from the RH 5.1 Alpha 1 distribution (the original /vmlinux). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 15:01:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA61651 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA63136 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:00:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA57686 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:00:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA23555 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:00:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26981; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:00:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22982; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:00:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08076; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:00:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806172200.AAA08076@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: ssh 1.2.25 mipseb rpm In-Reply-To: <19980617211616.A410@uni-koblenz.de> from "ralf@uni-koblenz.de" at "Jun 17, 98 09:16:16 pm" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:00:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adelton@informatics.muni.cz, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 689 Lines: 13 > > Last Sunday or so I've uploaded a full set of RPMs including X11 support > to ftp.replay.com. That included all the combinations of big and little > endian, international and US versions. To avoid legal problems the Couldn't the URL be added to the Web site? Or maybe to the README for the RH 5.1 Alpha 1 installation (even if I'm not sure how legal it is to say in US there is some crypto software abroad). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 15:05:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA66703 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA19520 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA63485 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA25824 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:04:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27136; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:04:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23137; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:04:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08176; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:04:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806172204.AAA08176@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: What is the config of the kernel In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 17, 98 02:10:12 pm" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:04:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adelton@informatics.muni.cz, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 753 Lines: 17 > > I've got the one from Manhattan done, so that's okay. And, uh, you are > generating your packages as 'mipseb', not 'mips', eh? 'mips' in RPM is > something we need to stamp out ASAP. Hmmm, I just did rpm -i, rpm -bb, rpm -Uvh. > It's clear I need to be a bit quicker in my uploading updates so that we > don't end up replicating work. Sorry... No, it's just that I wanted to try that it works. Let me know if there is some compilation work I could let run on this Indy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 15:09:41 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA68001 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA96724 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA22086 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:09:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA28675 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:09:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27540; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:08:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (11635@aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23306; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:08:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08385; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:08:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199806172208.AAA08385@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. In-Reply-To: from Alex deVries at "Jun 17, 98 02:19:02 pm" To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 00:08:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Honza Pazdziora Phone: 420 (5) 415 12345 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 672 Lines: 17 > > - something appears to be wrong with mkswap If this is the problem from me, if might be a problem with the disk (I do not see into it however). The mkswap fails if I do not specify the size. > gcc > For inclusion in the packaging, it should really be regenerated from > the source RPM. Needs lots of building time. If you assume the make will go clean, I can start it right away. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ I can take or leave it if I please ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 16:42:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA83489 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA34049 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:41:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA17756 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:41:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sgi.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA16139 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 16:41:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:41:31 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m0ymRpT-002OqQC; Thu, 18 Jun 98 01:41 MET DST Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA02631; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:39:17 +0200 Message-ID: <19980618013917.54945@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:39:17 +0200 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Alex deVries Cc: SGI Linux Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:19:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 448 Lines: 16 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:19:02PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > aboot > I'm not sure what this is. > minlabel > This is for Alpha disk labels. > quickstrip > I don't remember what this is. that's all Alpha stuff, you don't need it. Thomas. -- See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-) [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 17:28:53 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA87464 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA79014 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:28:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA46897 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:28:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA06160 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:28:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA23017; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:28:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:28:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Tomi.Leppikangas@oulu.fi cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys In-Reply-To: <199806162025.XAA28706@ousrvr2.oulu.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 971 Lines: 28 On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Tomi Leppikangas wrote: > I tryed to install that new 5.1 redhad tonight, but installation > stops when selecting partitions, i cant make swap partition, > and installation wont continue without any swap. > I partitioned second disk in irix, and in boot linux finds it, > but both partitions are 'linux native', i cant change them to > 'linux swap' becouse fdisk segfaults in installation. Should that > fdisk work? Could that segfault be becouse i have two disks, one > id=0 and second id=3. As mentioned in the isntructions, all the partitioning needs to be done from Irix. Yes, we're working on this. > Any way to install it without swap? Or how to force sdb2 > to be swap partition? There's a dialog box that asks you if you want to use swap; just say no. There's swap problems right now. > In that announcment posting there was 'copy all files from...', > i just copied "installfs.tgz" and untar it, is all files in that? Yup. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 17:40:06 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA88663 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA96156 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA12926; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA10445; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:39:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA23249; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:39:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Honza Pazdziora cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: (fwd) linux SEGV details (another one) In-Reply-To: <199806172156.XAA07993@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 519 Lines: 13 On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Honza Pazdziora wrote: > > > I have noticed another problem. Linux happily mounts the same > > > swap-file twice and if the system needs to swap, kswapd starts to run > > > at 60% CPU (or more) and the system slows down to death. > > On what kernel did this happen? Some Linux kernels in the 2.1.x series > 2.1.99 from the RH 5.1 Alpha 1 distribution (the original /vmlinux). I am guilty of not having released a kernel that contains System.map and .config with it; I'll correct this. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 18:55:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA01218 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA62875 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA79234 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA08914 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:55:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14176 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:54:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00762; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:54:29 +0200 Message-ID: <19980618035423.A517@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 03:54:23 +0200 To: "Stuart Herbert, GNQS Maintainer" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/SGI and processor sets References: <000901bd9a2a$21972760$020110ac@myrddraal.octopus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <000901bd9a2a$21972760$020110ac@myrddraal.octopus.com>; from Stuart Herbert, GNQS Maintainer on Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 08:57:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1894 Lines: 41 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 08:57:17PM +0100, Stuart Herbert, GNQS Maintainer wrote: > I've joined the Linux/SGI mailing list looking for (at first) > information about a specific feature-set ... my apologies if I've come > to the wrong place. This is definately the right place. > IRIX 5.x, and IRIX 6.0-6.3 provides support for 'processor sets' > through the sysmp(2) system call, and the pset(1) binary. This > particular feature-set is popular amongst users of Generic NQS, a > batch processing system I maintain. > > It's so popular, in fact, that there's been a lot of interest amongst > my users in adding this feature-set to Linux. It occurred to me that > the Linux/SGI port *might* include adding this support to Linux. > > Is sysmp(2) and pset(1) on your TODO list? We only support the uninteresting sysmp(2) operations MP_PGSIZE, MP_NPROCS and MP_NAPROCS as part of the IRIX binary compatibility. > If not, then I wrote a (crude - I'm not much of a kernel hacker) patch > which implemented all the pset stuff for sysmp(2), and a basic pset(1) > binary which may be of interest. The patch is against an old 2.0 > kernel, and needs a small fix to actually work (I don't actually have > a SMP box of my own). We don't yet support SMP - nobody has so far provided a SMP machine to me plus the hardware documentation. However I think you might also consult about sysmp(2) and pset(1) with the people from linux-smp@vger.rutgers.edu, the stuff is definately of interest to the users of Alpha, i386 and Sparc systems on which SMP is supported. Linux/MIPS is so far not yet a very widespread OS, but if you nevertheless wish to port your code to Linux/MIPS, then I as one of the core developers would like to offer you my support. I'd also like to point out that Linux/MIPS as far as technically possible is binary compatible beyond the machines of just one manufacturer. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 19:19:22 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA04452 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA65820 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:18:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA19587 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:18:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA17056 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15226 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:18:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA00861; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:18:08 +0200 Message-ID: <19980618041807.C517@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:18:07 +0200 To: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:19:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4618 Lines: 164 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:19:02PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > XFree86-75dpi-fonts > XFree86-libs > XFree86 > Huge problems here with building the X server itself, although > both Ralf and Mike are working on this. There's a good chance > of creating a .src.rpm for the fonts and libs, though. Ralf has > released an up to date patch that lets you build the libraries. I'm desperately trying to package this thing, but it takes __time__, a R5000 Indy is annoyingly slow for doing this, so I end up every couple of hours in front of my Indy's console, type a few keys and let it compile for another few hours. On the positive side: with just a few keystrokes I made the XF68_FBDev server compile, so combining this with the framebuffer device which just has been written for the Magnum 4000 G364 board by Thomas we should have the first X server for a Linux/MIPS box. > libstdc++ > libstdc++-devel > egcs > egcs-c++ > We have both rths and Ralf's sources for egcs that appear to work. > All that needs to be done is packaging. > gcc > For inclusion in the packaging, it should really be regenerated from > the source RPM. Needs lots of building time. Actually we might consider droping gcc in favor of egcs. > kernel > kernel-source > kernel-headers > The entire kernel source package needs to be regenerated. > > modutils > Easy, just need to package the functional modutils that's in > the CVS on linus. Modules are currently one of the more efficient ways to crash the machine, don't know why. > netscape-common > netscape-communicator > The whole thing needs to be patched, I haven't even started > to think about it. Obviously we will have to include Mozilla. > > strace > Even the CVS version of this dies on compile. Kernel bug, fixed in my private version. I could commit the patches, but I'd have to reboot into IRIX, anybody got a XFS kernel module handy ... ;-) > xxgdb > This requires gdb to work first. > > binutils > This should be regenerated from the source RPM for 5.1. > > glibc > This should be updated for pthreads (Ralf). > > emacs > emacs-X11 > emacs-nox > What a pain. We need to setup some configurations, and debugging > anything takes 4 hours to rebuild. This needs patience. I once build patches for this and even published the srpms. > clock > Needs to be completely redone because there's no clock on the ISA > bus. The clock data sheets are on the Dallas Semiconductor webserver at www.dalsemi.com. Only the PC architecture garbage needs to be disabled, /dev/rtc is a quite sane and portable interface to the RTC. Add to the list ncompress which makes stupid assumptions about the machines byteorder. Works fine on both byte orders but on the one it cannot exchange files with the other. > Applications that really should be fixed before we release the final > version: > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > xpm > xpm-devel Builds and installs without modifications for me. > xv > This can't compile because it needs csh in the building, and > tcsh currently hangs. > postgresql > postgresql-clients > postgresql-data > postgresql-devel > This is huge, and the source is broken for mipseb. I think > it thinks this is IRIX. It's a quite common problem with older sources that the preprocessor symbol __mips__ get missrecognized as either Risc/OS or IRIX. > ppp > Gets problems with compiling, dies with FD_ZERO problems. > kaffe > Architecture unsupported. This is nontrivial, as Miguel explained to me this'd require writing a JIT. > ElectricFence > Source level architecture problems. Known kernel bug, the definition of PROT_NONE needs to be fixed. > ImageMagick > Has problems building, and finishes with: > install -m 0755 utils/fvwmrc_c5 utils/fvwmrc_cntize_pixmaps \n > /vntize_pixmaps /vt/usr/X11R6/bin > in %install Rebuilds for me. > Things that don't belong in this architecture > --------------------------------------------- > aout-libs > I'm not sure. We don't want this. > bin86 > Too difficult to do. We don't want this :-) > kernel-pcmcia-cs > No SGIs with PCMCIA, I suspect. Wrong idea, think in terms of MIPS machines in general, not just SGI. > zgv > SVGATextMode > svgalib > svgalib-devel > vga_cardgames > vga_gamespack > My SGI doesn't have VGA... Thanks god. > isapnptools > No ISA bus on an SGI. But RM200. And Mips Magnum. And Acer PICA. And Deskstation Tyne. And ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 18 06:58:38 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA35626 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA60068 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA81569 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA24609 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06347 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA1D23; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:57:59 -0700 Message-ID: <35891CC9.6027F477@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:57:29 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. References: <19980618041807.C517@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 463 Lines: 19 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > kaffe > > Architecture unsupported. > > This is nontrivial, as Miguel explained to me this'd require writing > a JIT. Hrm. http://www.kaffe.org lists MIPS as a supported processor type (OS choices are IRIX 5, IRIX 6 and NetBSD), although it doesn't run with a JIT (interpreter only). Also, at the Expo DaveM said something about working on a JVM for the Qube; perhaps that work would help us? Mike -- 488733.52 411902.28 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 17 15:36:57 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA72353 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA57601 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:36:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA97462 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:36:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA14817 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA24996; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:35:58 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ymnOa-000aOnC; Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:43 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:43:04 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jun 17, 98 02:19:02 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 675 Lines: 35 > modutils > Easy, just need to package the functional modutils that's in > the CVS on linus. What happened there. My 4.9.1 modutils built fine > mawk > This dies on compile with floating point errors. Those look like kernel problems > mars-nwe > Architecture specific. Forget it - its very very non portable. > aout-libs > I'm not sure. Not needed > bin86 > Too difficult to do. The Red Hat supplied bin86 isnt portable. It'll build on mips and write invalid code. Get the Dev86 kit for ELKS. That one is portable > xdosemu > dosemu > Emulate DOS on a MIPS? Not right away. 0.99 has CPU emulation in progress. So "soon" alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 18 16:07:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA66978 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA72789 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:06:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA65263 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:06:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (stuart@gnqs.org) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id QAA01025 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (stuart@gnqs.org) Received: from (askone.demon.co.uk) [194.222.7.179] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ymnla-0006h4-00; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:06:50 +0000 Received: from myrddraal.octopus.com (myrddraal.octopus-technologies.com [172.16.1.2]) by askone.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA14542; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:05:37 GMT From: "Stuart Herbert, GNQS Maintainer" To: Cc: "Linux/SGI List" Subject: RE: Linux/SGI and processor sets Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:05:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bd9b0d$9af576a0$020110ac@myrddraal.octopus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19980618035423.A517@uni-koblenz.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2591 Lines: 70 Hi Ralf, > We only support the uninteresting sysmp(2) operations MP_PGSIZE, > MP_NPROCS and MP_NAPROCS as part of the IRIX binary compatibility. My patch covers MP_NPROCS, MP_NAPROCS, MP_EMPOWER, MP_RESTRICT, MP_MUSTRUN, MP_RUNANYWHERE, MP_PSET (with MPPS_CREATE, MPPS_DELETE, MPPS_ADD, MPPS_REMOVE, and my own extension MPPS_ASSIGN). I'm sure it isn't binary compatible, but it should be operation-compatible with sysmp(2) on IRIX, with two exceptions : a) You can remove processors from the 'all' processor set b) I've added MPPS_ASSIGN to the MP_PSET command to provide an API to associate a process with a process ID, because I couldn't find the official SG way to do this with the documentation I had. As I say, I'm no kernel hacker, so the patch probably has race conditions or inefficiencies which I've simply never thought of. My crude implementation of sysmp(2) is also achieved using a user-space wrapper. > We don't yet support SMP - nobody has so far provided a SMP machine to > me plus the hardware documentation. However I think you might also > consult about sysmp(2) and pset(1) with the people from > linux-smp@vger.rutgers.edu, the stuff is definately of interest to the > users of Alpha, i386 and Sparc systems on which SMP is supported. Alan's said it can go into 2.3 ... I'm digging around to find out if anyone more competent at kernel hacking has had a go at this first, and the Linux/SGI list seemed the most obvious place to start ;-) > Linux/MIPS is so far not yet a very widespread OS, but if you nevertheless > wish to port your code to Linux/MIPS, then I as one of the core > developers would like to offer you my support. I'd also > like to point out that Linux/MIPS as far as technically possible is > binary compatible beyond the machines of just one manufacturer. > > Ralf Thank you very much. I guess the thing to do would be if you looked at the (admittedly old) pset patch I already have: ftp://ftp.shef.ac.uk/pub/uni/projects/nqs/linux-smp/pset-kit-0.3.tar.g z Against an early 2.0 kernel, it works out-of-the-box on a uni-processor machine if you compile the kernel to be SMP. On a true SMP box, it doesn't work because it doesn't use the right CPU array - I'm told this is a trivial fix. I don't know what your baseline kernel release is; I'd be happy to put the time in to produce a patch against your preferred kernel sources if it would help. Best regards, Stu -- Stuart Herbert s.herbert@sheffield.ac.uk Generic NQS Maintainer http://www.shef.ac.uk/~nqs -- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 09:48:11 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA25232 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA28500 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA76583 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:47:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: from roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx (erandi.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.4]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA03020 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00316; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:02:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:02:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199806191402.JAA00316@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19980618041807.C517@uni-koblenz.de> (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Subject: Re: Stuff that needs to be done. X-Mexico: Este es un pais de orates, un pais amateur. References: <19980618041807.C517@uni-koblenz.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 429 Lines: 15 > > kaffe > > Architecture unsupported. > > This is nontrivial, as Miguel explained to me this'd require writing > a JIT. No. A simplistic port of Kaffe to Linux/MIPS should not take more than a couple of minutes. Just the time to define what you can use to do simplistic poking of some registers inside a signal handler. There is not JIT for MIPS in Kaffe yet, so you only get the interpreter at this point. Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 19 11:49:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA23978 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA06530 for linux-list; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:48:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA66452 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:48:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA07014 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806191848.LAA07014@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Great www.linux.sgi.com (at last) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 711 Lines: 23 [Cc'ing the Linux list] Hi Honza, I see that you've updated the www.linux.sgi.com site now. Very very nice, and lot and lots of thanks. I think you can proudly add your name to the list of contributors on: http://www.linux.sgi.com/faq.html You really really helped us a lot. BTW: you did a great job in xpaint to reverse the Linux/SGi to SGI/Linux the GIF looks perfect to me :-) I think with all the recent work by Alex, Ralf and others we now have an up-to-date site with up-to-date RedHat dist and even up-to-date installation instructions. I also feel the latest changes in hardware and set up (Thanks to dmk + mende) actually made it respond faster. Thanks to everyone who helped! -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 19 18:59:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA59286 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA69479 for linux-list; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from piecomputer.engr.sgi.com (piecomputer.engr.sgi.com [150.166.105.8]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA21583; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mende@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from mende@localhost) by piecomputer.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA29080; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806200158.SAA29080@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com> From: Bob Mende Pie To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: more changes on linus.linux.sgi.com Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 924 Lines: 16 The system linus.linux.sgi.com now has a new disk configuration for /src. It is now a pair of high speed 4g drives mirrored (via xlv). The old disk array is offline, but will not be recycled for at least a week. Please let me know if you see any problems or data discrepencies. The system is now a 150Mhz R4400 running on a Challenge/S. Before we consider upgrading linus to run linux, we should have support for the Challenge/S. I have a IO+ card free, but the backplate of the indy does not allow for it to fit into a box. I am seeing if I can get a Challenge/S for loan for a few months so we can get it someone who can do the HW port for it. It should be close to a no brainer since it is just a few more WD scsi chains and another ethernet (just like the internal one). /Bob... mailto:mende@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/mende KF6EID From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 19 19:13:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA67248 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA45363 for linux-list; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:12:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA60395; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:12:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA23306; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:12:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10739; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:12:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Bob Mende Pie cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: more changes on linus.linux.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199806200158.SAA29080@piecomputer.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1387 Lines: 31 On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Bob Mende Pie wrote: > The system linus.linux.sgi.com now has a new disk configuration for /src. > It is now a pair of high speed 4g drives mirrored (via xlv). The old disk > array is offline, but will not be recycled for at least a week. Please let > me know if you see any problems or data discrepencies. Good! Thanks! > The system is now a 150Mhz R4400 running on a Challenge/S. Before we > consider upgrading linus to run linux, we should have support for the > Challenge/S. I have a IO+ card free, but the backplate of the indy does > not allow for it to fit into a box. I am seeing if I can get a Challenge/S > for loan for a few months so we can get it someone who can do the HW port > for it. It should be close to a no brainer since it is just a few more WD > scsi chains and another ethernet (just like the internal one). I'd definetly be interested in that port... off the top of my head, it doesn't sound difficult either. I do really think that having some SGI/Linux machine within *.linux.sgi.com would be good; if we're advocating that Linux on the SGI is a reasonable proposition, it would prove a lot if we said that we were hosting our own FTP and WWW sites on it. However, there's definitely advantages to having Irix kicking around... it's much easier having a reference Irix system for reference than rebooting. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 11:20:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA87317 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA97061 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA58408 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:19:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA29957 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:19:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA31911 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:19:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: New packages... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 5318 Lines: 94 I've uploaded about 40 new binary RPMs that are scheduled to be included in the Alpah 2 release of RH 5.1 that I hope to release tomorrow... if anyone wants to get ahead, they're in: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/devel/ There's also the patched source RPMs there, with diffs. The full file listing is below the .sig. Also, to index the current release, the packages are nicely indexed at http://www.linux.sgi.com/manhattan/rpm2html/ . - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 111 Jun 20 11:14 README RPMS: total 16 drwxrwxr-x 2 root sys 4096 Jun 20 11:09 RPMS drwxrwxr-x 2 root sys 4096 Jun 20 11:09 SRPMS RPMS/RPMS: total 99352 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 273191 Jun 20 10:54 dhcp-2.0b1pl1-2.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 99507 Jun 20 10:54 findutils-4.1-24.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 3752159 Jun 20 10:55 gimp-0.99.28-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 4756167 Jun 20 10:56 gimp-data-extras-0.99a-9.noarch.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 99237 Jun 20 10:56 gimp-devel-0.99.28-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 92302 Jun 20 10:56 gimp-libgimp-0.99.28-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 191572 Jun 20 10:56 gnome-core-0.13-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 418336 Jun 20 10:56 gnome-graphics-0.13-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 592446 Jun 20 10:56 gnome-libs-0.13-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 625321 Jun 20 10:56 gnome-libs-devel-0.13-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 26918 Jun 20 10:56 gnome-linuxconf-0.13-16rh.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 368941 Jun 20 10:56 imlib-1.4-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 216878 Jun 20 10:56 imlib-devel-1.4-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 34965 Jun 20 10:57 inews-1.7.2-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1160411 Jun 20 10:57 inn-1.7.2-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 61941 Jun 20 10:57 inn-devel-1.7.2-9.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 764325 Jun 20 10:57 kernel-2.1.99-0.1.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 717744 Jun 20 10:57 kernel-headers-2.1.99-0.1.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 12855465 Jun 20 10:59 kernel-source-2.1.99-0.1.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 18131 Jun 20 10:59 kernelcfg-0.5-2.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 53569 Jun 20 10:59 mailx-8.1.1-1.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 34649 Jun 20 10:59 man-1.5d-3.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 183710 Jun 20 10:59 multimedia-2.1-10.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 52625 Jun 20 10:59 patch-2.5-4.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 51717 Jun 20 10:59 sysklogd-1.3-23.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 8592103 Jun 20 11:02 tetex-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 169345 Jun 20 11:02 tetex-afm-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 164895 Jun 20 11:02 tetex-dvilj-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 240168 Jun 20 11:02 tetex-dvips-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 2785344 Jun 20 11:03 tetex-latex-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 5139177 Jun 20 11:03 tetex-texmf-src-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 87434 Jun 20 11:04 tetex-xdvi-0.4pl8-11.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 8098 Jun 20 11:04 tmpwatch-1.5.1-2.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 192444 Jun 20 11:04 usermode-1.4.1-2.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 17902 Jun 20 11:04 usernet-1.0.7-2.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 950688 Jun 20 11:04 uucp-1.06.1-16.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 503897 Jun 20 11:04 xntp3-5.93-3.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 4337442 Jun 20 11:05 xscreensaver-2.16-4.mipseb.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 90527 Jun 20 11:05 xterm-color-1.1-7.mipseb.rpm RPMS/SRPMS: total 9168 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 2996 Jun 20 11:06 anonftp-2.5-2.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 62418 Jun 20 11:06 autofs-3.1.1-5.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 18496 Jun 20 11:06 eject-1.5-3.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1061164 Jun 20 11:07 elm-2.4.25-12.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 253559 Jun 20 11:07 faces-1.6.1-10.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 254316 Jun 20 11:07 faces-1.6.1-11.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 53863 Jun 20 11:07 ncompress-4.2.4-11.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 366530 Jun 20 11:07 pam-0.64-2.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 98430 Jun 20 11:07 sysklogd-1.3-23.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 537915 Jun 20 11:07 util-linux-2.7-19.src.rpm -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1957040 Jun 20 11:07 xntp3-5.93-3.src.rpm SRPMS: total 0 patches: total 40 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1091 Jun 20 11:06 anonftp.diff -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 869 Jun 20 11:06 autofs.diff -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1092 Jun 20 11:06 eject.diff -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 1095 Jun 20 11:07 ncompress.diff -rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 747 Jun 20 11:07 xpilot.spec.diff From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 01:47:29 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA70641 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA53677 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:46:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA98269 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:46:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA16602 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:46:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07986 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:46:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00478; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:34:49 +0200 Message-ID: <19980620213448.B373@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:34:48 +0200 To: "D.A. Harris" , Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ridiculous question. . . ;) References: <19980615171556.B13655@ecst.csuchico.edu> <19980616152241.D25396@ecst.csuchico.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980616152241.D25396@ecst.csuchico.edu>; from D.A. Harris on Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 03:22:41PM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 785 Lines: 16 On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 03:22:41PM -0700, D.A. Harris wrote: > The replacement for Alias from Alias/Wavefront, a subsidary of SGI. Maya > is Powerful 3D animation software, what I've seen and what my boss and > co-workers are saying is that it very intuitive to use, so far they love it, > one of the animators say it is more useful than Lightwave. Course right now > it is only available for IRIX, and cost in the neighborhood of $40,000 (unless > you can get it on some educational discount). An NT port is in the works > by Alias/Wavefront. Yeah, I know, I'll never see it on Linux, and I'm > wasting bandwidth. On the day on which our binary compatibility is good enough to run software product xy you can run xy whether the manufacturer of xy agrees - or not. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 13:59:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA89227 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA71835 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:58:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA55434; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from cygnus.detroit.sgi.com by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id QAA20147; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:58:46 -0400 Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by cygnus.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA10601; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <358C2140.260930D5@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:53:20 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex deVries CC: Bob Mende Pie , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, dmk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: more changes on linus.linux.sgi.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 33 Alex deVries wrote: > However, there's definitely advantages to having Irix kicking around... > it's much easier having a reference Irix system for reference than > rebooting. > > - Alex I should have an Indy running IRIX 6.5 available on the net for anyone looking for an account that "needs" one in another 2 weeks. Eric. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Eric Kimminau RTA/RSA eak@detroit.sgi.com Silicon Graphics, Inc Voice: (248) 848-4455 39001 West 12 Mile Rd. Fax: (248) 848-5600 Farmington, MI 48331-2903 VNet Extension - 6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/perl-rsa-sig.html When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" "I am the great supportfolio, do you have http?" Copyright 1998, Silicon Graphics Computer Systems Confidential to Silicon Graphics Computer Systems ** -- not for redistribution -- ** From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 17:47:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA88698 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA71419 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:46:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA06940 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:46:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA04831 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:46:25 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806210046.RAA04831@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: RedHat reveals some secrets To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1916 Lines: 57 I was waiting for redHat to come out of the closet for a while. I believe publishing some numbers (as opposed to keeping them a secret) is the _one_ of the prereqs for being taken seriously by analysts like IDC and Fortune 500 companies. In the article: http://www.sjmercury.com/business/tech/docs/078480.htm The San Jose Mercury today says: Red Hat software takes on the big guys BY JOEL B. OBERMAYER Raleigh News & Observer RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C. -- Don't mess with Microsoft. It's the cardinal rule of the software industry. Plenty of promising companies have crashed when they collided with the Redmond, Wash.-based giant. Yet there's a small, fast-growing Triangle company making a living aggressively pushing in the area Microsoft dominates: the operating systems that run personal computers. [... deleted ...] Red Hat's sales of Linux products have doubled every 12 months, putting it on target to ship 400,000 Linux CD-ROMs this year and reach ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ more than $10 million in sales, according to Young. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He said the company has been profitable every year. [... deleted ...] The competition with Microsoft isn't a problem, either. Microsoft is unlikely to offer technical users the control they want, he said. ``The only way you can compete against a monopoly is to change the rules on which the game is played,'' Young said. ``It allows me to sleep at night knowing we compete under different rules.'' In a separate news article Linux was mentioned for the _first_ time by IDC and was estimated at 6.8% of the server operating system market, after NT, Novell NetWare, and "Unix" :-) I think this is cool :-) -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 17:54:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA85820 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA48816 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:54:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA28482; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:54:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA14564; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:54:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA02630; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:54:24 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ynYV0-000aOnC; Sun, 21 Jun 98 02:00 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: RedHat reveals some secrets To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 02:00:49 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199806210046.RAA04831@oz.engr.sgi.com> from "Ariel Faigon" at Jun 20, 98 05:46:24 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 232 Lines: 6 > by IDC and was estimated at 6.8% of the server operating system > market, after NT, Novell NetWare, and "Unix" :-) Quick glue all the unixen together before they come too low ;) More seriously do you have a URL to the IDC one ? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 19:58:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA92740 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA93070 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:58:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA15304 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:58:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (LetherGlov@aol.com) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA26919 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:58:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (LetherGlov@aol.com) From: LetherGlov@aol.com Received: from LetherGlov@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id 1KUa013455 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:58:04 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:58:04 EDT To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Running Linux on Linus Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 85 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1807 Lines: 37 Hi, In response to the ideas floating around about running Linux on Linus, I think that before you give Bob Mende and William Earl tons of work configuring it (and rebooting), that If I understand things correctly it is a good idea to enable the Watchdog features of the Dallas 1386 clock, so that if there are any kernel panics or troubles or whatever may occur that the watchdog would automatically restart linus in the event that the kernel was no-longer updating the timer. If I am just completely off on the whole general concept of a Watchdog please tell me, but I think that(if I'm right) it might be a good idea for everybody to have that feature available to them :-) The documentation that I was reading at Dallas' website implied that the only thing involved was to have the clock stuff to reset, or update, the reset time of the timer every xxx seconds to prevent it from restarting an out-of-control processor. Thanks, Robbie Stone P.S. In /src/web the permissions of the *.in files were changed somehow to root-only editing, it would be nice if you could enable the vip user group to have write-permissions as well, since there are a couple of things off in the documentation. P.P.S--To Alex, there doesn't appear anywhere in the web-pages a link into the manhattan/rpm2html hierarchy, I don't know If I missed the link, or if your just not done, but it isn't existent at the moment. And in the rpm2html generated files there is no page at the other end of the Help hyperlink on the top left-corner of the menu in the generated pages. P.P.P.S--to Mende, the root partition on Linus is _very_ close to being full, perhaps a clean up of the unnessesary programs/files is in order, otherwise the maintenance and addition of space on the /src partition is very nice. Good Night 8-) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 20 23:05:56 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA96342 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA91022 for linux-list; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:05:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA37857; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:05:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA05652; Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:05:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199806210605.XAA05652@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: RedHat reveals some secrets To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: from "Alan Cox" at Jun 21, 98 02:00:49 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 676 Lines: 27 : :> by IDC and was estimated at 6.8% of the server operating system :> market, after NT, Novell NetWare, and "Unix" :-) : :Quick glue all the unixen together before they come too low ;) : :More seriously do you have a URL to the IDC one ? : It is not yet on the site (so it appears) but it was in the last page of today's Newspaper. The numbers were: 36.0%: Windows NT 26.4%: Netware (Novell) 20.0%: Unix 6.8%: Linux 6.3%: OS/2 3.8%: Other (It adds to 99.3% probably due to last digit rounding) What's no less important, I feel, is that Linux is the _only_ alternative OS to MS that actually _grew_, all the rest lost market share to Microsoft. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 21 09:01:50 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA98027 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA72547 for linux-list; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA94540 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:01:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA11240 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de) Received: from thoma (ralf@thoma.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.61]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08073 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:00:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: by thoma (SMI-8.6/KO-2.0) id SAA16460; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:00:57 +0200 Message-ID: <19980621180056.41345@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:00:56 +0200 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Joe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 225 Lines: 6 I've fixed the editor Joe. The problem was that it was written using assumptions about what exactly is contained in struct sigaction. Obviously everybody, even on Intel machines, ignored the warnings caused by this. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 21 10:49:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA04631 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA79456 for linux-list; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA33898 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (tomilepp@ousrvr2.oulu.fi) Received: from ousrvr2.oulu.fi ([130.231.240.7]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA19204 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (tomilepp@ousrvr2.oulu.fi) Received: (from tomilepp@localhost) by ousrvr2.oulu.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26982 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:48:28 +0300 (EET DST) From: Tomi Leppikangas Message-Id: <199806211748.UAA26982@ousrvr2.oulu.fi> Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys (fwd) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:48:28 +0300 (EET DST) Reply-To: Tomi.Leppikangas@oulu.fi X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 673 Lines: 17 >> Any way to install it without swap? Or how to force sdb2 >> to be swap partition? > >There's a dialog box that asks you if you want to use swap; just say no. >There's swap problems right now. I didnt see any swap dialog, does it depend how much memory you have? I have just 96MB, should it have more? First dialog i get is about install/update, then comes selecting disk for partiotioning and then selecting filesystems for partitions. After selecting root partition it says that i have to select swap also. And there is no way to select swap partition, so i cant go on. -- ## Tomi.Leppikangas@oulu.fi ## ## http://www.student.oulu.fi/~tomilepp/ ## From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 21 15:45:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA09326 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA11938 for linux-list; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:44:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA94183 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA29507 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:44:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA02480 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:44:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Ah, a problem with rpm! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 42 So, here I am, trying to figure out why on earth we always get those errors in the installer for the RH installer. I've figured it out! See, the installer has this neato way of figuring out the order to install packages in. It's determined by what each package you choose requires. If the package in question has a %post script or similiar, those elements are required, and so they end up in the calculation of the install order. So, I thought it was weird that the %post script of ash required the use of /usr/bin/[, yet that wasn't included in what the binary required. That would throw the whole calculation of install order off. Now, why would rpm build such an erronous package? I don't quite know if it is my build environment, or a genuine bug in RPM. I'm playing with that now. The solution to this is either to fix the build environment or rpm, and then rebuild pretty much all the packages. *sigh* The stuff to look for is: ... Processing files: hello Finding provides... Finding requires... Prereqs: /bin/sh Requires: ld-linux.so.2 libc.so.6 Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/hello-0.10-2.src.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/hello-0.10-2.i386.rpm ... or similiar. On my Indy, I _don't_ get the "Requires: " line at all. Do other people? - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 21 17:42:09 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA60355 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA01513 for linux-list; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:41:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAB82184 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:41:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA10940 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:41:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05025; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux cc: Zach Brown Subject: Re: Ah, a problem with rpm! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 763 Lines: 24 On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Zach Brown wrote: > > or similiar. On my Indy, I _don't_ get the "Requires: " line at all. Do > > other people? > > have you checked the scripts that generate this stuff? they have to be > geneated per port of rpm, if I remember right. sorry i'm being so vague. Yes, the issue is that the rpm RPM that I released (2.5.1-0) has a broken find-requires (which happened because the binutils RPM I used didn't have a /usr/lib/ldscripts). So, all packages generated wouldn't have any requires setup. Ack. So, time to rebuild the whole damned distribution again, although this time I know how to do it. Let me know if you've got CPU power to spare, folks... I'll set up a co-ordinated build, and release a proper version of rpm. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 01:59:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA18868 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA70537 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:59:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA60915 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:58:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA21025 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:58:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09882 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:58:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01275; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:58:24 +0200 Message-ID: <19980622105824.D418@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:58:24 +0200 To: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: Ah, a problem with rpm! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 06:44:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 750 Lines: 25 On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 06:44:43PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > The solution to this is either to fix the build environment or rpm, and > then rebuild pretty much all the packages. *sigh* > > The stuff to look for is: > > ... > Processing files: hello > Finding provides... > Finding requires... > Prereqs: /bin/sh > Requires: ld-linux.so.2 libc.so.6 > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/hello-0.10-2.src.rpm > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/hello-0.10-2.i386.rpm > ... > > or similiar. On my Indy, I _don't_ get the "Requires: " line at all. Do > other people? I do get them. If you don't get them, then probably ldd isn't working on your machine. There was a kernel bug causing this and the bugfix is in the CVS since quite some time. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 02:00:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA15635 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA92574 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:00:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA81898 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA21674 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:00:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10122 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:00:13 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01319; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:59:42 +0200 Message-ID: <19980622105942.E418@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:59:42 +0200 To: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Cc: Zach Brown Subject: Re: Ah, a problem with rpm! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 08:41:30PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 259 Lines: 8 On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 08:41:30PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > Let me know if you've got CPU power to spare, folks... I'll set up a > co-ordinated build, and release a proper version of rpm. I've built most of the stuff myself, so don't desparate. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 02:03:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA18160 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA39912 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:03:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA71727 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:02:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA22674 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:02:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10645 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:02:15 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01330; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:01:39 +0200 Message-ID: <19980622110139.F418@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:01:39 +0200 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: tcsh Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 169 Lines: 7 Hi all, maybe anybody feels like debugging the tcsh rpm. The lack of having a properly working csh keep several other packages from building without trickery. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 02:08:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA01056 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA78206 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:08:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id CAA92802 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:08:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (leon@reading.sgi.com) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id KAA12887; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:08:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:08:21 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: SGI Linux Subject: 5.1 installation fun & games... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1455 Lines: 48 'lo all, I've tripped over something trying to install the 5.1 distribution on a spare indy. I have a second Indy acting as a bootp server for the nfs-root installation. The nfs-root filesystem came from installfs.tgz on linus. The machines are both on a segmented network with the netmask 0xffffff80 so I had to muck about with nfsroot= and nfsaddrs= . The boot command I'm using is: boot bootp():vmlinux nfsroot=/scratch/linux/installfs \ nfsaddrs=:::0xffffff80:misfit:: Anyway, this boots the kernel, mounts the root fs and then stops with the message: Warning: unable to open an initial console This turns up if I use any type of console (gfx or vt100 terminal). Perhaps that was too literal an interpretation but I'd have kicked myself if it was the problem :) I suspect my bootp setup could be more robust or nfs root isn't mounting properly... BTW, small tip I found useful. Instead of typing: boot bootp():vmlinux nfsroot=/scratch/linux/installfs etc. etc. everytime to boot, on an SG machine use: setenv -p linux "a_very_long_command_its_a_pain_to_keep_typing" and boot the machine with $linux at the console prompt :) Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 02:12:27 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA04358 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA69027 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA70886 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:12:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA26795 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:12:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-03.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.3]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11880 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:11:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01353; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:11:54 +0200 Message-ID: <19980622111154.I418@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:11:54 +0200 To: LetherGlov@aol.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Running Linux on Linus References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from LetherGlov@aol.com on Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 10:58:04PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1628 Lines: 30 On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 10:58:04PM -0400, LetherGlov@aol.com wrote: > In response to the ideas floating around about running Linux on Linus, > I think that before you give Bob Mende and William Earl tons of work > configuring it (and rebooting), that If I understand things correctly it is a > good idea to enable the Watchdog features of the Dallas 1386 clock, so that if > there are any kernel panics or troubles or whatever may occur that the > watchdog would automatically restart linus in the event that the kernel was > no-longer updating the timer. Talking about the Dallas chip, we still don't have proper Dallas RTC support (/proc/rtc rsp. /dev/rtc), so we currently cannot even adjust the rtc under Linux. Definately a must before we switch. I had my headaches about the stability of the kernel - I should probably given them up. I'm running crashless and hickupless since two weeks even though I've been trying hard to stress the system and trigger the one known problem causing a bus error. Probably time for wider testing. > If I am just completely off on the whole general concept of a Watchdog please > tell me, but I think that(if I'm right) it might be a good idea for everybody > to have that feature available to them :-) The documentation that I was > reading at Dallas' website implied that the only thing involved was to have > the clock stuff to reset, or update, the reset time of the timer every xxx > seconds to prevent it from restarting an out-of-control processor. The idea of a software watchdog is good, it's somewhere on the bottom of my to do list since quite some time. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 02:26:25 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA16874 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA28705 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:25:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA24133 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:25:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA02188 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:25:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA31844; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:25:30 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yo2x5-000aOnC; Mon, 22 Jun 98 10:31 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... To: leon@reading.sgi.com (Leon Verrall) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:31:49 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Leon Verrall" at Jun 22, 98 10:08:21 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 297 Lines: 11 > Anyway, this boots the kernel, mounts the root fs and then stops with the > message: > > Warning: unable to open an initial console You don't have a valid "/dev" inside of /scratch/linux/installfs Tar preserves major/minor numbers which will screw you royally across NFS (which doesnt). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 06:54:04 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA26689 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA93221 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA42129 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:53:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (leon@reading.sgi.com) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id OAA18828; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:53:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:53:21 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 889 Lines: 25 On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Anyway, this boots the kernel, mounts the root fs and then stops with the > > message: > > > > Warning: unable to open an initial console > > You don't have a valid "/dev" inside of /scratch/linux/installfs > > Tar preserves major/minor numbers which will screw you royally across > NFS (which doesnt). Hmmm. ALl of the dev devices were major/minor 0 0 so I've put them right using the kernel device numbers list. If nfs is not passing device numbers how exactly does this work (as it apparently does) or is this an SGI specific NFS thing... Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 07:08:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA06797 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA23942 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:07:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA94233 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:07:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA01108 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA04954; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:07:47 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yo7MG-000aOnC; Mon, 22 Jun 98 15:14 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... To: leon@reading.sgi.com (Leon Verrall) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:14:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Leon Verrall" at Jun 22, 98 02:53:21 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 431 Lines: 12 > Hmmm. ALl of the dev devices were major/minor 0 0 so I've put them right > using the kernel device numbers list. If nfs is not passing device numbers > how exactly does this work (as it apparently does) or is this an SGI > specific NFS thing... Linux device numbers are major<<8|minor, SGI ones are split on a different boundary. NFSv2 doesnt indicate the boundary - so device 2,0 on linux may appear as 0,512 on Irix. Alan From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 08:13:17 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA26367 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA81030 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:12:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA95779 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:12:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (leon@reading.sgi.com) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id QAA20054; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:12:32 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:12:32 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall To: Alan Cox cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 886 Lines: 22 On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Hmmm. ALl of the dev devices were major/minor 0 0 so I've put them right > > using the kernel device numbers list. If nfs is not passing device numbers > > how exactly does this work (as it apparently does) or is this an SGI > > specific NFS thing... > > Linux device numbers are major<<8|minor, SGI ones are split on a > different boundary. NFSv2 doesnt indicate the boundary - so device > 2,0 on linux may appear as 0,512 on Irix. Ah, a chicken and egg thing. You can nfsroot an SG linux box as long as you have a linux box to do it from... Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 08:14:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA26894 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA94085 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:14:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA73492 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:14:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA06627 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA06542; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:14:01 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yo8OL-000aOnC; Mon, 22 Jun 98 16:20 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... To: leon@reading.sgi.com (Leon Verrall) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:20:21 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Leon Verrall" at Jun 22, 98 04:12:32 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 285 Lines: 8 > Ah, a chicken and egg thing. You can nfsroot an SG linux box as long as you > have a linux box to do it from... Or can do binary arithmetic on the console null zero and a couple of other device file numbers (ie on the sgi mknod console c 0 1024 probably comes out as 4,0 on Linux From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 08:34:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA29653 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA53002 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:34:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA53552 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:33:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA17943 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:33:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA28375; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:33:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Leon Verrall cc: Alan Cox , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 526 Lines: 15 On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: > Ah, a chicken and egg thing. You can nfsroot an SG linux box as long as you > have a linux box to do it from... Assuming that people have an i386/Linux box kicking around may be an invalid assumption. The Real Solution to this is to get initrds working, so that you don't have to have any other machine to boot from, just a local Irix filesystem. Leon, in time this will all be taken care of. I wonder how the initrd that the DEC MIPS folks are talking about works... - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 22 09:19:43 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA30396 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA61723 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:18:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from wintermute.reading.sgi.com (wintermute.reading.sgi.com [144.253.74.171]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA64797 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (leon@reading.sgi.com) Received: from localhost by wintermute.reading.sgi.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) id RAA20812; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:18:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:18:33 +0100 (BST) From: Leon Verrall Reply-To: Leon Verrall To: SGI Linux cc: Alan Cox , Alex deVries Subject: Re: 5.1 installation fun & games... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1043 Lines: 28 On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Alex deVries wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Leon Verrall wrote: > > Ah, a chicken and egg thing. You can nfsroot an SG linux box as long as you > > have a linux box to do it from... > > Assuming that people have an i386/Linux box kicking around may be an > invalid assumption. It is in my office :( > The Real Solution to this is to get initrds working, so that you don't > have to have any other machine to boot from, just a local Irix filesystem. > Leon, in time this will all be taken care of. Well Irix (6.2 at least) uses 14 bits for the major device number and 18 for minor. This works out to be 256 for a linux major of 4 and 64 for a linux major of 1 (I think). And *drumroll* it still didn't work... Ho hum. Leon -- Leon Verrall - 01189 307734 \ "Don't cut your losses too soon, Secondline Software Support / 'cos you'll only be cutting your throat. Silicon Graphics, Forum 1, \ And answer a call while you still care at all Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA / 'cos nobody will if you wont" (6:00 - DT) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 24 06:05:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA01411 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA43638 for linux-list; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:04:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA08718 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:04:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (veillard@rufus.w3.org) Received: from rufus.w3.org (rufus.w3.org [18.29.0.66]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA06597 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 06:04:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (veillard@rufus.w3.org) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by rufus.w3.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02732; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:04:39 -0400 Message-ID: <19980624090439.B1937@w3.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:04:39 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: Alex deVries Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys Reply-To: Daniel.Veillard@w3.org References: <199806161546.RAA28259@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.10i In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 12:07:58PM -0400 Organization: World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 893 Lines: 25 Alex, while creating the mirror of the distribution at: ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/SGILinux/redhat-5.1/ I got the following errors: ----- Failure on 'RETR etc/ioctl.save' command Failed to get etc/ioctl.save: 550 etc/ioctl.save: Permission denied. Failed to get file 550 etc/ioctl.save: Permission denied. ----- Failure on 'RETR sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER' command Failed to get sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: 550 sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: Permission denied. Failed to get file 550 sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: Permission denied. ----- I also noticed a couple of .rpmorig files in /etc :-) Daniel -- Daniel.Veillard@w3.org | W3C MIT/LCS NE43-344 | Today's Bookmarks : Tel : +1 617 253 5884 | 545 Technology Square | Linux, WWW, rpm2html, Fax : +1 617 258 5999 | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA | badminton, Kaffe, http://www.w3.org/People/W3Cpeople.html#Veillard | HTTP-NG and Amaya. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 24 12:24:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA97042 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA74042 for linux-list; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:23:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA18518 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:23:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA23161 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:23:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA23403; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:22:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:22:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Daniel Veillard , Bryce cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys In-Reply-To: <19980624090439.B1937@w3.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1565 Lines: 52 Alright, alright! After just one and a half weeks of complaints, I've fixed the problem. Clearly, the installation file system is a mess; I will sort that out for Alpha 2. ... and I've now rebuilt all the RH 5.1 RPMs with proper dependancies. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Daniel Veillard wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:04:39 -0400 > From: Daniel Veillard > To: Alex deVries > Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 (Manhattan) ALPHA 1 for SGI/Indys > > Alex, > > while creating the mirror of the distribution at: > > ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/SGILinux/redhat-5.1/ > > I got the following errors: > ----- > Failure on 'RETR etc/ioctl.save' command > Failed to get etc/ioctl.save: 550 etc/ioctl.save: Permission denied. > Failed to get file 550 etc/ioctl.save: Permission denied. > ----- > Failure on 'RETR sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER' command > Failed to get sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: 550 sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: Permission denied. > Failed to get file 550 sbin/pam_filter/upperLOWER: Permission denied. > ----- > I also noticed a couple of .rpmorig files in /etc :-) > > Daniel > > -- > Daniel.Veillard@w3.org | W3C MIT/LCS NE43-344 | Today's Bookmarks : > Tel : +1 617 253 5884 | 545 Technology Square | Linux, WWW, rpm2html, > Fax : +1 617 258 5999 | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA | badminton, Kaffe, > http://www.w3.org/People/W3Cpeople.html#Veillard | HTTP-NG and Amaya. > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Jun 24 19:24:10 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA50965 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA59027 for linux-list; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:23:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA64699 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:23:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA08849 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA02028 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:23:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:23:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Some new RPM uploads... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 665 Lines: 23 I've uploaded a lot of new RPMS; most of them are just rebuilds of the existing RPMS, but now they have dependancy information in them. I've redone nearly everything from RH 5.1. There's still a problem with glibc that prevents me from releasing Alpha 2 of the installation; glibc has too many dependancies that creates a circular dependancy issue in the installer that can't be resolved without fixing glibc. You can find it in ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/redhat/devel/redhat5.1alpha2 or similiar. I'd work on this, but I'm in NYC on business until at least Friday. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 13:27:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA93974 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA61676 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from rock.csd.sgi.com ([150.166.9.10]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA33657 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jesseba@rock.csd.sgi.com) Received: from diverge.csd.sgi.com (diverge.csd.sgi.com [150.166.153.87]) by rock.csd.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA15372 for <@rock.csd.sgi.com:linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jesseba@rock.csd.sgi.com) Received: from csd.sgi.com by diverge.csd.sgi.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/911001.SGI) for id NAA21538; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3592B271.14F268F4@csd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:26:25 -0700 From: Jesse Barnes Organization: CPS Logistics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New 2.0.107 console scheme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 496 Lines: 11 Does the main kernel source tree have support for Indys natively, and if so, is the new fbcon method supported for the console? Also, what's preventing Linux/SGI from running on O2s? I've got an R10k O2 sitting on my desk and I'd really like to see Linux running on it. I have device driver writing experience on PCs under DOS and NT, but I've never written one for a Unix type system. If there's something small that I could tackle to start out, that would be great. Thanks, Jesse Barnes From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 13:42:44 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA86024 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA54503 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18917 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA05148 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA30113; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:41:28 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ypIvl-000aOnC; Thu, 25 Jun 98 21:47 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: New 2.0.107 console scheme To: jesseba@rock.csd.sgi.com (Jesse Barnes) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 21:47:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <3592B271.14F268F4@csd.sgi.com> from "Jesse Barnes" at Jun 25, 98 01:26:25 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 314 Lines: 7 > Does the main kernel source tree have support for Indys natively, and > if so, is the new fbcon method supported for the console? Almost and no. Its not fb_con thats relevant for the indy. fbcon is a directly accessible bitmapped display. The indy will need to use abscon directly to issue newport commands From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 15:12:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA44054 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA13214 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:11:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA10499 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA14226 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24463 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA199F; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:11:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3592CAFD.1360AA3A@netscape.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:11:09 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New 2.0.107 console scheme References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1102 Lines: 29 Alan Cox wrote: > Almost and no. Its not fb_con thats relevant for the indy. fbcon is a directly > accessible bitmapped display. The indy will need to use abscon directly to > issue newport commands So, um, yeah. I've been wading through the newport docs and the X server code and docs and so forth for about 3 days now (good thing my boss is away!), and I'm starting to think that I might almost understand what I have to do. Things that are still unclear: - do we use /dev/graphics, and make that work correctly (it doesn't quite right now), or do we tweak the Newport HW from the X server directly for things like board detection, etc.? - where is the mouse driver coming from? - why does it always take me so long to read these silly docs? - why are there no good examples of writing a non-frame-buffered X server? - why haven't I yet bothered the people I work with at Netscape who worked on the original SGI X server? - why (and I've looked closely at this for 5 hours this week) does EFS still do dumb things? Thank you for listening. I feel much better now. Mike -- 452526.29 378522.30 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 16:07:28 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA06370 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA34841 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:05:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cygnus.rochester.sgi.com (cygnus.rochester.sgi.com [169.238.58.130]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA17442 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:05:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (koz@sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com by cygnus.rochester.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) for id TAA02963; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3592D796.C43C35C5@sgi.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:04:54 -0400 From: Bob Kozdemba Organization: Silicon Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: installer swap problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 397 Lines: 13 Hi: Does anyone know the trick in getting around the swap problem ? The installer says I must add a swap partition before continuing. The only option is "OK" Thanks, Koz -- Bob Kozdemba - Systems Engineer - Silicon Graphics / Cray Research 375 Woodcliff Drive Rochester, NY 14450 Office: 716-383-4262 * Direct: 716-249-4720 * Fax: 716-383-4265 Email: koz@sgi.com * http://reality.sgi.com/koz From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 16:39:59 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA13260 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA71694 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:38:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA59659 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:38:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA13225 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:38:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03850; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:36:09 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980626073608.03672@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:36:08 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: Bob Kozdemba , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: installer swap problem References: <3592D796.C43C35C5@sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e In-Reply-To: <3592D796.C43C35C5@sgi.com>; from Bob Kozdemba on Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 07:04:54PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 544 Lines: 13 On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 07:04:54PM -0400, Bob Kozdemba wrote: > Does anyone know the trick in getting around the swap problem ? > The installer says I must add a swap partition before continuing. > The only option is "OK" It seems that the swapon is not working at this stage. I press "OK", too. -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 16:42:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA13409 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA33465 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:42:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA87963 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: from athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (athena.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.9]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA15962 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:42:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (miguel@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by athena.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA27827; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:42:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:42:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199806252342.SAA27827@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: shaver@netscape.com CC: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <3592CAFD.1360AA3A@netscape.com> (message from Mike Shaver on Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:11:09 -0400) Subject: Re: New 2.0.107 console scheme X-Windows: More than enough rope. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 233 Lines: 8 > - do we use /dev/graphics, and make that work correctly (it doesn't > quite right now), or do we tweak the Newport HW from the X server > directly for things like board detection, etc.? Fix /dev/graphics if it is broken. Miguel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 16:55:00 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA98574 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA16570 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA59382 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA21657 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:51:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03895; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:49:49 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980626074948.06850@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:49:48 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: /dev/mouse ? References: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e In-Reply-To: <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:52:17AM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 348 Lines: 10 Dear SGI/Linuxer: Do anybody know which device should the /dev/mouse linked to? Thanx for your help -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 03:36:14 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA87189 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA31059 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:35:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA33296 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:35:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA21402 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:35:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16709 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:35:18 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA02309; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:35:08 +0200 Message-ID: <19980626123507.B570@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:35:07 +0200 To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ssh binaries References: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:52:17AM +0800 X-Mutt-References: <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 780 Lines: 18 On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:52:17AM +0800, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 07:23:46PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > I've uploaded ssh binaries, both big endian and little endian, > > international and us-damaged (read: rsaref) versions to > > ftp.replay.com:/pub/crypto/incoming/. The binaries are probably > > somewhen going to be moved to their final place. > > I am sorry if it was discussed before. I can't install the client > and server, rpm told me "libz.so.1" needed even if I downloaded the > actual file libz.so.1 from ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > How can I fix it up? Thanx for your help. Just dowloading the libz.so.1 file won't do the job, you should get the zlib package and install it, it's apparently missing from your system. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 03:37:42 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA69494 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA91575 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:37:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA92497 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:37:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA22401 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.14]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16877 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:37:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA02450; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:37:00 +0200 Message-ID: <19980626123700.C570@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:37:00 +0200 To: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: /dev/mouse ? References: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> <19980626074948.06850@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980626074948.06850@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M.J. Hsieh on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 07:49:48AM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 193 Lines: 9 On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 07:49:48AM +0800, Francis M.J. Hsieh wrote: > Dear SGI/Linuxer: > > Do anybody know which device should the /dev/mouse linked to? The mouse driver is borken. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 03:48:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA81850 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA82915 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA79028 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA27165 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:48:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08405; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:46:03 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980626184602.13818@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:46:02 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ssh binaries References: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> <19980626123507.B570@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e In-Reply-To: <19980626123507.B570@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 12:35:07PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 894 Lines: 19 On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 12:35:07PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:52:17AM +0800, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > > I am sorry if it was discussed before. I can't install the client > > and server, rpm told me "libz.so.1" needed even if I downloaded the > > actual file libz.so.1 from ftp.linux.sgi.com. > > How can I fix it up? Thanx for your help. > > Just dowloading the libz.so.1 file won't do the job, you should get the > zlib package and install it, it's apparently missing from your system. I actually installed zlib before, so, I solve it by force it install. :-) rpm -i --nodeps ..... :-) happy linuxing! -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 03:49:55 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA70984 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA39085 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:49:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA87609 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:49:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA27810 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:49:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08421; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:47:31 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980626184731.09737@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:47:31 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: possible driver error? References: <19980626151336.37322@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e In-Reply-To: <19980626151336.37322@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M.J. Hsieh on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 03:13:36PM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1090 Lines: 25 Dear SGI/Linuxer: Here is a possible driver error (but seems harmless, I checked it using network managerment hardware, no transmission error occured) [root@helix /root]# ifconfig -a lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:1260 dropped:18 overruns:0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---> ? eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:69:08:BD:9A inet addr:140.114.98.34 Bcast:140.114.98.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4144 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:943 overruns:0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---> ? Interrupt: -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 03:58:31 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA79172 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA38278 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:57:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA46117 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:57:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA01538 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:57:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA12960; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:57:38 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ypWIG-000aOoC; Fri, 26 Jun 98 12:03 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: possible driver error? To: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw (Francis M.J. Hsieh) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:03:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <19980626184731.09737@life.nthu.edu.tw> from "Francis M.J. Hsieh" at Jun 26, 98 06:47:31 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 246 Lines: 7 > Here is a possible driver error (but seems harmless, I checked it > using network managerment hardware, no transmission error occured) I think someone is shipping old ifconfig tools with Linux/SGI. See if "cat /proc/net/dev" makes sense From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 06:58:49 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA40169 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA67947 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cygnus.rochester.sgi.com (cygnus.rochester.sgi.com [169.238.58.130]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id GAA80460 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:58:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (koz@sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com by cygnus.rochester.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/930416.SGI) id JAA04848; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3593A8B5.640ACFF9@sgi.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:57:09 -0400 From: Bob Kozdemba Organization: Silicon Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: installer swap problem References: <3592D796.C43C35C5@sgi.com> <19980626073608.03672@life.nthu.edu.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 982 Lines: 29 Francis M.J. Hsieh wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 07:04:54PM -0400, Bob Kozdemba wrote: > > Does anyone know the trick in getting around the swap problem ? > > The installer says I must add a swap partition before continuing. > > The only option is "OK" > > It seems that the swapon is not working at this stage. I press "OK", > too. > After pressing OK, I am back to where I started and it will not let me continue. How did you manage to get past this point ? Thanks for the reply, Koz > -- > Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw > Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ > National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 > HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 -- Bob Kozdemba - Systems Engineer - Silicon Graphics / Cray Research 375 Woodcliff Drive Rochester, NY 14450 Office: 716-383-4262 * Direct: 716-249-4720 * Fax: 716-383-4265 Email: koz@sgi.com * http://reality.sgi.com/koz From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 10:40:48 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA02423 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA78587 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA73574 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@aec.at) Received: from aec.at ([195.3.98.5]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA03559 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:40:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oliver@aec.at) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id RAA21781 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:58:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:58:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Frommel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: fs full on linus? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 330 Lines: 12 hi, while trying to check out the kernel from linus.linux.sgi.com i got the following message: [oliver@baal sgi]$ cvs -z 9 -d oliver@linus.linux.sgi.com:/src/cvs update linux Enter passphrase for RSA key 'oliver@zero': cvs [server aborted]: cannot open /tmp/cvs-serv13160/linux/drivers/sbus/CVS: No space left on device o. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Jun 25 16:27:32 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA13217 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA84227 for linux-list; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:26:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA46380 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:26:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA05786 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:26:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA00458; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:52:18 +0800 Message-ID: <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:52:17 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ssh binaries References: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980614192346.B7551@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 07:23:46PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 554 Lines: 13 On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 07:23:46PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > I've uploaded ssh binaries, both big endian and little endian, > international and us-damaged (read: rsaref) versions to > ftp.replay.com:/pub/crypto/incoming/. The binaries are probably > somewhen going to be moved to their final place. I am sorry if it was discussed before. I can't install the client and server, rpm told me "libz.so.1" needed even if I downloaded the actual file libz.so.1 from ftp.linux.sgi.com. How can I fix it up? Thanx for your help. Sincerely Yours. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 19:41:46 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA66807 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA22780 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:41:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA56373 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:41:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA00369 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:41:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA21149; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:39:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" cc: ralf@uni-koblenz.de, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: ssh binaries In-Reply-To: <19980627015217.A454@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 955 Lines: 20 On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 07:23:46PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > > I've uploaded ssh binaries, both big endian and little endian, > > international and us-damaged (read: rsaref) versions to > > ftp.replay.com:/pub/crypto/incoming/. The binaries are probably > > somewhen going to be moved to their final place. > I am sorry if it was discussed before. I can't install the client > and server, rpm told me "libz.so.1" needed even if I downloaded the > actual file libz.so.1 from ftp.linux.sgi.com. > How can I fix it up? Thanx for your help. This is a problem with the zlib RPM that is released with Alpha 1; none of those libraries have dependancies in them. The ones in Alpha 2 have this problem fixed. So, the 'real' answer is to completely reinstall all the packages in Alpha 2 (which all have the same versions and releases, for compatibility and consistancy with RH 5.1/Intel). - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 19:46:58 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA55346 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA23786 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:46:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA29462 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:46:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA02862 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:46:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA21268; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:44:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:44:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: /dev/mouse ? In-Reply-To: <19980626074948.06850@life.nthu.edu.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 267 Lines: 11 On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Francis M.J. Hsieh wrote: > Dear SGI/Linuxer: > Do anybody know which device should the /dev/mouse linked to? /dev/psaux, I would think, but seeing as the psaux driver isn't working, it'll go nowhere. Hm. Someone should look at that. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Jun 26 19:58:20 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA66317 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA33674 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:57:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA07826 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:57:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA07593 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:57:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA21542; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:56:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:56:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: Alan Cox cc: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: possible driver error? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 789 Lines: 23 On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Here is a possible driver error (but seems harmless, I checked it > > using network managerment hardware, no transmission error occured) > I think someone is shipping old ifconfig tools with Linux/SGI. See if > "cat /proc/net/dev" makes sense "someone" in this case is me; I'm shipping the same net-tools that comes with RH 5.1. Of course, that's a 2.0.34 kernel. I assume there's some sort of inconsistancy between the /proc interfaces of 2.1.x and 2.0.34. So, I'll have to stitch that package up. In some ways, we're very much skewed from RH 5.1 distribution because of the 2.1 kernel, apart from other things. If someone would like to do that, it'd be appreciated, but I'll fix this otherwise. Thanks for the bug report. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 27 05:00:30 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA81947 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA99852 for linux-list; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:59:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA55557 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:59:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA23593 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:59:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27349 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:59:31 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01043; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:59:03 +0200 Message-ID: <19980627135902.A484@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:59:02 +0200 To: Alex deVries , "Francis M.J. Hsieh" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: /dev/mouse ? References: <19980626074948.06850@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 10:44:45PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 439 Lines: 15 On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 10:44:45PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Francis M.J. Hsieh wrote: > > Dear SGI/Linuxer: > > Do anybody know which device should the /dev/mouse linked to? > > /dev/psaux, I would think, but seeing as the psaux driver isn't working, > it'll go nowhere. > > Hm. Someone should look at that. Looks like a job for me. But first I have to exterminate a couple of RISC/os installations. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Jun 27 06:10:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA88820 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA07346 for linux-list; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:09:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA57043 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:09:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA22056 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.21]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00492 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:09:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02023; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:09:17 +0200 Message-ID: <19980627150916.B484@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:09:16 +0200 To: Oliver Frommel , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: fs full on linus? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Oliver Frommel on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 05:58:51PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 511 Lines: 14 On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Oliver Frommel wrote: > while trying to check out the kernel from linus.linux.sgi.com i got the > following message: > > [oliver@baal sgi]$ cvs -z 9 -d oliver@linus.linux.sgi.com:/src/cvs update linux > Enter passphrase for RSA key 'oliver@zero': > cvs [server aborted]: cannot open /tmp/cvs-serv13160/linux/drivers/sbus/CVS: No > space left on device I zapped a collection of old logfile and moved my home to /work, so we now have about 76mb free again. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 11:59:26 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA12841 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA77250 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:58:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA53001 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:58:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA20641 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA12544; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:58:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:58:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: hmmmm.... nice job!! In-Reply-To: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 828 Lines: 30 On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > I just installed this nice/impressive OS in our indy, the network speed > is faster than it is on irix6.2. And it had a huge screen :-) Good! > I have setup a ftp service and one www service on this linux, it works > fine. :-) > > here are some small problems :-) > - Sometimes after closing telnet connection, it shows > bpti [/home/mjhsieh] -mjhsieh- logout > tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory > tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory > Connection closed by foreign host." Hm. That's new to me. I look at it. > - possible no sound support (beep ?) No, no sound support yet. > - (sometimes) a strange garbage image, about 1 character size in the > lowerleft corner of the screen Yup, that's a console bug, I get that too. - Alex From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 13:50:47 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA77513 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA04628 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA06128 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:50:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA12901 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:50:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA00536; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:51:33 +0800 Message-ID: <19980629045132.A432@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:51:32 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: possible apache error? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 230 Lines: 9 Hi there; Did you found that some error occured when apache is transfering html text? The default faq file in http://localhost/manual/misc/FAQ.html corrupted at the browser. Did anybody get it, too? Sincerely yours. -- Francis From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 13:59:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA21500 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA88225 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:58:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA01555 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA16986 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:58:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA00569; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:59:58 +0800 Message-ID: <19980629045958.A550@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:59:58 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: hmmmm.... nice job!! References: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Ulf Carlsson on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:35:41PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 492 Lines: 11 On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:35:41PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > > - (sometimes) a strange garbage image, about 1 character size in the > > lowerleft corner of the screen > I think I've heard something about strange chars in the lower corners of > the screen. Try 'clicking' on it, maybe you get access to some secret > database. (maybe it just works in movies) I really wish it is a pi symbol. maybe somebody can hack it to be a pi :-) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 14:04:35 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA32436 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA53084 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:04:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA66724 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:04:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA19715 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:04:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22986; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 05:01:54 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629050153.58302@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 05:01:53 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: [fun] /etc/issue References: <19980629212724.A1205@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e In-Reply-To: <19980629212724.A1205@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 09:27:24PM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 325 Lines: 9 put that file as /etc/issue and you will see a nice login screen in console. -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 16:48:08 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA31040 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA84857 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:47:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA36121 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:47:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net (snowcrash.cymru.net [163.164.160.3]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA07204 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:47:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (the-village.bc.nu [163.164.160.21]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA05560; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:46:33 +0100 Received: by the-village.bc.nu (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yqRFN-000aOnC; Mon, 29 Jun 98 00:52 BST Message-Id: From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: hmmmm.... nice job!! To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca (Alex deVries) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:52:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Alex deVries" at Jun 28, 98 02:58:20 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 314 Lines: 8 > > - (sometimes) a strange garbage image, about 1 character size in the > > lowerleft corner of the screen > > Yup, that's a console bug, I get that too. And a few other artifacts. They look like a race on how we handle scrolling, cursors and other related items. Perhaps its time to go plug into abscon ? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 17:55:24 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA43047 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA62423 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA98723 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.21]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA07894 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by sparc.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23502; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:52:41 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629085240.47401@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:52:40 +0800 From: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Some other strange thing :-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79e Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 496 Lines: 13 Hi all; I think this might be a installation fault of mine, but which rpm contains libSM.so.6? - Rxvt doesn't work. rxvt: error in loading shared libraries libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- Francis M. J. Hsieh | Email: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Life Science Department, | Webpage: http://www.life.nthu.edu.tw/~mjhsieh/ National Tsing Hua Univ, | Voice: +886 3 5715131 ext 3482 HsinChu, Taiwan Republic | +886 3 5715649 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 21:08:45 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA41242 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA84328 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:08:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA60456 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:08:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA06257 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:08:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA25343 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:08:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries Reply-To: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: The mouse issue... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 635 Lines: 23 Alright. So I went through to see if I could locate anywhere in the kernel where there might be problems with psaux. I recompiled, stuck some printk's in, and I got: Nothing. Nadda. Zip. The whole machine hangs (including num lock). When I do a 'cat /dev/psaux', the printk's prove that the open works fine. Then in the first read, it attempts to do a schedule(). So far, no problem, the system is still up. But it never comes out of the schedule(), and a subsequent mouse input hangs the system (or the keyboard, anyway). Ideas? - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 29 03:47:52 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA65674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA51097 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA05229 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:47:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA07548 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:47:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.30]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05957 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:46:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01248; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:46:15 +0200 Message-ID: <19980629124615.A422@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:46:15 +0200 To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: hmmmm.... nice job!! References: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 08:52:24PM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 846 Lines: 22 On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 08:52:24PM +0800, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > I just installed this nice/impressive OS in our indy, the network speed > is faster than it is on irix6.2. [makes a notch into his Indy's keyboard ...] > - possible no sound support (beep ?) Yes, that's still missing and as far as just the equivalent of the PC beeper is affected I'd call it a feature ;-) > - (sometimes) a strange garbage image, about 1 character size in the > lowerleft corner of the screen Yes, and there are some more artefacts in the console code, aside of it's afully slow speed. As Alan already mentioned it's time to reimplement the console code for the Indy, this time based on abscon. And just yesterday Thomas who already did the abscon support for the G364 board (Magnum 4000), volunteered to implement this for the Newport. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 11:28:07 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA28214 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA99627 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA67333 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:27:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA06412 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA01028; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:52:25 +0800 Message-ID: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:52:24 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: hmmmm.... nice job!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 663 Lines: 20 Dear Linux/SGI developer; I just installed this nice/impressive OS in our indy, the network speed is faster than it is on irix6.2. And it had a huge screen :-) I have setup a ftp service and one www service on this linux, it works fine. :-) here are some small problems :-) - Sometimes after closing telnet connection, it shows bpti [/home/mjhsieh] -mjhsieh- logout tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory Connection closed by foreign host." - possible no sound support (beep ?) - (sometimes) a strange garbage image, about 1 character size in the lowerleft corner of the screen -- Francis From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Jun 28 12:02:37 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA27550 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA02689 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA65078 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA22448 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:02:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01210; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:27:24 +0800 Message-ID: <19980629212724.A1205@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:27:24 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [fun] /etc/issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 462 Lines: 16 =1B[2J=1B[2;1H=1B(0lqwqwqwqwqwqwqwqwqk x x x x x x x x x x mqvqvqvqvqvqvqvqvqj =1B(B =1B[3;2H=1B[1;5mL=1B[3;4Hi=1B[3;6Hn=1B[3;8Hu=1B[3;10Hx=1B[3;12H/=1B[3;14HS= =1B[3;16HG=1B[3;18HI=1B[3;35H=1B[0m =1B[0m =20 =1B[4mBioinformatics Center, Life Science Dept.=1B[0m =20 System : Red Hat Linux release 5.1 (Manhattan) Kernel : Kernel 2.1.99 on a mips IP address : 140.114.98.34 Domain name: helix.life.nthu.edu.tw Service : +886 3 571-5131 x3482 / x2772 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 29 08:48:52 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA57283 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA70478 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:47:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA14416 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: from helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (helix.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.34]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA14615 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:47:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mjhsieh@helix.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from mjhsieh@localhost) by helix.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01632; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:47:08 +0800 Message-ID: <19980629234708.A1627@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:47:08 +0800 From: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: hmmmm.... nice job!! References: <19980629205224.A1023@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 02:58:20PM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 553 Lines: 16 On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 02:58:20PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > > - Sometimes after closing telnet connection, it shows > > bpti [/home/mjhsieh] -mjhsieh- logout > > tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory > > tput: tgetent failure: No such file or directory > > Connection closed by foreign host." > > Hm. That's new to me. I look at it. Seems to be a small problem of term emulation (I guessed.) After some observation, I found it only occurs on console telneting to some certain host. I will check it, too. -- Francis M. J. Hsieh From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 29 11:35:03 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA67979 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA58635 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA26566 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:33:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA08287 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from dredd.mcom.com (dredd.mcom.com [205.217.237.54]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20590 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by dredd.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA3DBE; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:33:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3597DE03.3D596A03@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:33:39 -0400 From: Mike Shaver Organization: Mozilla Dot Weenies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Frommel CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: EFS compile problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 794 Lines: 23 Oliver Frommel wrote: > > mips-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/dsk1/src/sgi/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-pro > totypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 > -pipe -c -o dir.o dir.c > dir.c: In function `efs_readdir': > dir.c:86: structure has no member named `efs_total' > make[3]: *** [dir.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/src/sgi/linux/fs/efs' > make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/src/sgi/linux/fs/efs' > make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/dsk1/src/sgi/linux/fs' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 My bad. Forgot to commit the EFS header changes I made when I was cleaning up the EFS code a few weeks back. Should be all better now. Mike -- 220746.60 219516.06 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Jun 29 11:48:12 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA61172 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA36817 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA62764 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA13680 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:45:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (ralf@pmport-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.26]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00356 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:45:15 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA01198; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:43:16 +0200 Message-ID: <19980629204315.B391@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:43:15 +0200 To: "Francis M.J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Some other strange thing :-) References: <19980629085240.47401@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980629085240.47401@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M.J. Hsieh on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 08:52:40AM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 386 Lines: 12 On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 08:52:40AM +0800, Francis M.J. Hsieh wrote: > I think this might be a installation fault of mine, but which rpm > contains libSM.so.6? > > - Rxvt doesn't work. > rxvt: error in loading shared libraries > libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The library is part of XFree which I should upload ... Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 30 17:27:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA02213 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA23755 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA42254 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA19997 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00952 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:26:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA04222; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:56:06 +0200 Message-ID: <19980630065605.A4050@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:56:05 +0200 To: Alex deVries , SGI Linux Subject: Re: The mouse issue... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex deVries on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 12:08:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1095 Lines: 25 On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 12:08:07AM -0400, Alex deVries wrote: > Alright. So I went through to see if I could locate anywhere in the > kernel where there might be problems with psaux. I recompiled, stuck some > printk's in, and I got: Nothing. Nadda. Zip. The whole machine hangs > (including num lock). > > When I do a 'cat /dev/psaux', the printk's prove that the open works fine. > Then in the first read, it attempts to do a schedule(). So far, no > problem, the system is still up. But it never comes out of the > schedule(), and a subsequent mouse input hangs the system (or the > keyboard, anyway). > > Ideas? Mouse interrupts where looping. Fixed, gpm works now. There I small uglyness in gpm when using it with certain types of mouse like PS/2 mice which are available with two or three buttons. Until the optional third middle button has been used for the first time gpm doesn't know that it's using a three button mouse. So the right button changes it's meaning when the middle one has been pressed. Just a small thing and it affects all architectures anyway. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 30 17:27:18 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA08504 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA76032 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA79201 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA19991 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00928 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:26:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00751; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:08:09 +0200 Message-ID: <19980630120809.A517@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:08:09 +0200 To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: possible apache error? References: <19980629045132.A432@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980629045132.A432@life.nthu.edu.tw>; from Francis M. J. Hsieh on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 04:51:32AM +0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1781 Lines: 36 On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 04:51:32AM +0800, Francis M. J. Hsieh wrote: > Did you found that some error occured when apache is transfering html > text? The default faq file in http://localhost/manual/misc/FAQ.html > corrupted at the browser. Did anybody get it, too? Yes, and there is another code affected by the same syndrome. rlogin to an Indy looks like: [ralf@lappi ralf]$ rlogin -l root indy Last login: Wed Jul 1 11:14:13 from lappi [root@indy /root]# ls bookmarks rpm-2.5-2.src.rpm ttcp-1.rpm ttcp-1.one.S ssone.S ssrpm ttcp-1.4-1.rpm ttcp-1.4-1.-980528.tar.gz sh-1.2.25.tar.gzsh-1.2.25.tar.gz ssh-1.2.25.tar.gz.sig [root@indy /root]# ll total 5370 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 146 Nov 3 146 Nov 3s -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3072 May 3 07:00 clone.S -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2568819 Jun 10 1996 dejagnu-980528.tar.gz -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15658 May 3 07:06 dliu* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1001 Apr 28 01:01 dliu.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 581465 Jun 13 1996 rpm-2.5-2.src.rpm -rw------- 1 root root 1268954 Jun 14 17:44 ssh-1.2.23-1i.src.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2591 Jun 14 17:15 ssh-1.2.25.release -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002828 Jun 1 1002828 Jun 125.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152 Jun 14 17:20 ssh-1.2.25.tar.gz.sig -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9678 Dec 9678 Dec -1.mips.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8310 Dec 8310 Dec -1.src.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1139 May 8 00:10 vc-bug.c [root@indy /root]# The corruption pattern is repeatable the same in most cases and I bet both the http and the rlogin corruption have the same cause. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 30 17:27:19 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA09051 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA96018 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA82319 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) Received: from informatik.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.4.1]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA19943 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:26:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@uni-koblenz.de) From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de Received: from uni-koblenz.de (root@pmport-27.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.249.27]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00859 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:26:10 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by uni-koblenz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01223; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: <19980630221146.A1218@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:46 +0200 To: "Francis M. J. Hsieh" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: possible apache error? References: <19980629045132.A432@life.nthu.edu.tw> <19980630120809.A517@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19980630120809.A517@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@uni-koblenz.de on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 12:08:09PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 285 Lines: 8 On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 12:08:09PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > The corruption pattern is repeatable the same in most cases and I bet > both the http and the rlogin corruption have the same cause. The cause seems to be memmove which can corrupt data in certain cases. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Jun 30 20:48:15 1998 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA99090 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA78558 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:47:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA74409 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (lager.engsoc.carleton.ca [134.117.69.26]) by sgi.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA12357 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:47:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca) Received: from localhost (adevries@localhost) by lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07392 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:47:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: lager.engsoc.carleton.ca: adevries owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex deVries To: SGI Linux Subject: Thursday, 5pm EST cutoff! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 318 Lines: 14 Alright. 5pm on Thursday, July 2 is the cutoff time for corrections to SGI/Linux packages and installations for, er, the next release. This one is significant because, well, if you don't know you can ask in private email. - Alex -- Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet. http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ .