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okay, I am reporting again.

I happened to meet this before, maybe it is a rare case.
  Socket destroy delayed (r=0 w=112)
  Socket destroy delayed (r=0 w=256)

Any idea? Had anyone seen that before?

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> okay, I am reporting again.
> 
> I happened to meet this before, maybe it is a rare case.
>   Socket destroy delayed (r=0 w=112)
>   Socket destroy delayed (r=0 w=256)
> 
> Any idea? Had anyone seen that before?

When a socket has buffers charged to it the socket cant be destroyed so
the kernel hangs on to it. It indicates one of several things - a socket
that has some state timeouts left to do that are longer than 10 secs 
after the close, a socket that has buffers queued up with a very constipated
driver, or a leak.

Alan


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Hi,

yesterday I managed to bring up my Indy with the new console code riped
out from 2.1.109. Today I've implemented new scrolling stuff for newport
abscon, which will give us a really fast console. My simple test program, 
which does 1000 printf("\n") in a loop, gives me about 62000 lines/second
on a 160x64 sized console. I also tried that program on my Dual P-233
with a Matrox Millenium and got about 260000 lines/s on a 80x25 sized
console (which is less than 1/5 the size of the Indy console).

My next steps are to bring up hardware cursor and palette stuff. So stay
tuned...

Thomas.

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you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-)
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On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> yesterday I managed to bring up my Indy with the new console code riped
> out from 2.1.109. Today I've implemented new scrolling stuff for newport
> abscon, which will give us a really fast console. 

This is very, very cool, and much needed to go on with 2.1.x kernel
development.  

> My simple test program, 
> which does 1000 printf("\n") in a loop, gives me about 62000 lines/second
> on a 160x64 sized console. I also tried that program on my Dual P-233
> with a Matrox Millenium and got about 260000 lines/s on a 80x25 sized
> console (which is less than 1/5 the size of the Indy console).
> 

Well, this is very cool.  What kind of use is this?  aalib... man, that'll
be neat.  To hell with X when you have aalib.

Huge congratulations on the abscon stuff, Thomas.  

- Alex


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I have someone willing to loan me one for a year - and let me keep it if
i get some real work(tm) done. Specifically, it is an indigo r3000 with an
LG1 graphics card, and irix on cd (and ido) with a bootable cd rom drive.
(yes, i know it's 32-bit =(

i'd like to take him up on his offer, and am curious as to what work would
need be done. i know hardhat linux doesn't support it, but it looks as if
i'm going into kernel-land and the likes before i even get to
dist-specific work.

my big question is this: i'd really like to know what i'd need to do, just
so i don't jump TOO far over my head ;) i'd assume some major driver work.

how hard would it be to boot a kernel and get at least some sort of
development enviornment going?

thanks,
justin
http://slashdot.org/




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On Sun, Aug 02, 1998 at 12:39:37AM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> > yesterday I managed to bring up my Indy with the new console code riped
> > out from 2.1.109. Today I've implemented new scrolling stuff for newport
> > abscon, which will give us a really fast console. 
> 
> This is very, very cool, and much needed to go on with 2.1.x kernel
> development.  

yes, and that's my primary goal. The closer we get to the current 2.1.x
kernel, the better we can merge our changes into Linus tree. And this is
the best thing to let people see, that the MIPS port is still alive.

> Well, this is very cool.  What kind of use is this?  aalib... man, that'll
> be neat.  To hell with X when you have aalib.

:-) As I only speeded up scrolling time, it won't make any difference for
aalib. But sitting in front of a fast console you get the impression, that
the machine flys:-)

Thomas.

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you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-)
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To: Alex deVries <adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca>
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On Sun, Aug 02, 1998 at 12:39:37AM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> > yesterday I managed to bring up my Indy with the new console code riped
> > out from 2.1.109. Today I've implemented new scrolling stuff for newport
> > abscon, which will give us a really fast console. 
> 
> This is very, very cool, and much needed to go on with 2.1.x kernel
> development.  
> 
> > My simple test program, 
> > which does 1000 printf("\n") in a loop, gives me about 62000 lines/second
> > on a 160x64 sized console. I also tried that program on my Dual P-233
> > with a Matrox Millenium and got about 260000 lines/s on a 80x25 sized
> > console (which is less than 1/5 the size of the Indy console).
> > 
> 
> Well, this is very cool.  What kind of use is this?  aalib... man, that'll
> be neat.  To hell with X when you have aalib.

Is there MesaGL support for aalib ;-)

Actually aalib is already performing pretty nicely on the old console.
However the ``linux'' driver doesn't work right due to some console bug;
one has to use the slang driver.  So aa is more a test of the correctness
than the performance.

  Ralf

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On Sun, Aug 02, 1998 at 11:27:12AM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> yes, and that's my primary goal. The closer we get to the current 2.1.x
> kernel, the better we can merge our changes into Linus tree. And this is
> the best thing to let people see, that the MIPS port is still alive.

>From the next week on I'll spend allmost all my time again on Linux, so
if there it is possible to convince Linux to accept our patches, then we
can make it.

> > Well, this is very cool.  What kind of use is this?  aalib... man, that'll
> > be neat.  To hell with X when you have aalib.
> 
> :-) As I only speeded up scrolling time, it won't make any difference for
> aalib. But sitting in front of a fast console you get the impression, that
> the machine flys:-)

How true.  Also the old console is very buggy.  When using the driver for
the Linux console aa plain doesn't work.

(And who says one needs stinking X for c0o/_ D3m0z ;-)

  Ralf

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I've been informed by the powers that be that "Hard Hat" CDs are from now
on going to be called "Rough Cuts", sinc ethe original name is too close
to "Red Hat", and ldilutes the Red Hat trade mark.

To me, Rough Cuts sounds like the perfect title for a pornographic film,
but hey, who am I to talk?

Anyway, let's not change the WWW pages or anything until the CD is out.

- Alex

-- 
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http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ .




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On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Alex deVries wrote:

> I've been informed by the powers that be that "Hard Hat" CDs are from now
> on going to be called "Rough Cuts", sinc ethe original name is too close
> to "Red Hat", and ldilutes the Red Hat trade mark.

"Rough Cuts"?  Huh?  What is that supposed to mean?  I understood "Hard
Hat" as a nice play off of "Red Hat", but "Rough Cuts" seems, well, dumb.

"Rough Cuts Linux" doesn't sound right either.

Just my $.02
J.

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                                |  -- Dave Barry                      |
                                o-------------------------------------o


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Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Alex deVries wrote:
> 
> > I've been informed by the powers that be that "Hard Hat" CDs are from now
> > on going to be called "Rough Cuts", sinc ethe original name is too close
> > to "Red Hat", and ldilutes the Red Hat trade mark.
> 
> "Rough Cuts"?  Huh?  What is that supposed to mean?  I understood "Hard
> Hat" as a nice play off of "Red Hat", but "Rough Cuts" seems, well, dumb.
> 
> "Rough Cuts Linux" doesn't sound right either.
> 

ergh... nah 'Rough cuts' - I liked Blue Belt - or alternatively how about Blue
Suede Shoes?
heheh elvis linux ;)
-- 
Brendan Black - Network Engineer, Telecom Internet Services

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> heheh elvis linux ;)

Oh great yeah "its fat and its dead" ;)

Alan


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FYI, I managed to build the first using the n32 ABI.  It doesn't work
yet perfectly but running n32 will give us the full power of all 64 bits
in the register without the bloat of the 64 bit address space.  Probably
currently the best choice for the supported machines.

  Ralf

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Hi,

I have installed HardHat on R5000 Indy and it is very cool.
Installation procedure becomes much easier than previous release.
I admire all your effort to port Linux for SGI system.

I tried to compile kernel on HardHat using RPM kernel(2.1.100) source,
I can't build kernel due to following error.
In arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c, 

setup.c:18: asm/vector.h: No such file or directory

Error message shows that I need to have include/asm/vector.h.
How can I get vector.h? Do I have to get latest kernel source from
ftp.linux.sgi.com?

Cheers,
Takeshi

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On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 04:13:25PM +0900, Takeshi Hakamada wrote:
> I tried to compile kernel on HardHat using RPM kernel(2.1.100) source,
> I can't build kernel due to following error.
> In arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c, 
> 
> setup.c:18: asm/vector.h: No such file or directory

that's already fixed in the CVS repository. You just have to remove
the #include in setup.c.

> Error message shows that I need to have include/asm/vector.h.
> How can I get vector.h? Do I have to get latest kernel source from
> ftp.linux.sgi.com?

As this should be the only change, you don't need to.

Thomas.

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Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your help. I'll try to remove #include in setup.c and build
kernel tonight.

Cheers,
Takeshi

From: Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>
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> On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 04:13:25PM +0900, Takeshi Hakamada wrote:
> > I tried to compile kernel on HardHat using RPM kernel(2.1.100) source,
> > I can't build kernel due to following error.
> > In arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c, 
> > 
> > setup.c:18: asm/vector.h: No such file or directory
> 
> that's already fixed in the CVS repository. You just have to remove
> the #include in setup.c.
> 
> > Error message shows that I need to have include/asm/vector.h.
> > How can I get vector.h? Do I have to get latest kernel source from
> > ftp.linux.sgi.com?
> 
> As this should be the only change, you don't need to.
> 
> Thomas.
> 
> -- 
> See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux,
> you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-)
>                    [Linus Torvalds in <4rikft$7g5@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI>]

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Hello,

 I'm new to this list, but would like to start helping port Linux to SGI hardware. The FAQ states Linux will only run on Indys. Is work being done on support for Indigo2 and O2s? What's the current status, and where can I get the source code? Is there a list of items that need to be done?

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David Kelly wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  I'm new to this list, but would like to start helping port Linux to
> SGI hardware. The FAQ states Linux will only run on Indys. Is work
> being done on support for Indigo2 and O2s? What's the current status,
> and where can I get the source code? Is there a list of items that
> need to be done?
> 
> Regards,
> David

Howdy David!
SGI/Linux is the port of Linux to Silicon Graphics hardware. It
currently supports all Indy models (R4400, R4600, or R5000 MIPS(TM)
CPUs, with or without secondary caches). Additional SGI hardware
support is planned but not yet available.

Do you have web access?

If so, please take a look at:

For status of the port:
http://www.linux.sgi.com/status.html

For Projects:
http://www.linux.sgi.com/projects.html

For source and binaries:
http://www.linux.sgi.com/software.html

For installation instructions:
http://www.linux.sgi.com/howtos.html

And the FAQ to answer these and many more questions:
http://www.linux.sgi.com/faq.html

Thanks!
                  Eric.


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Hi,

look what gas from binutils-2.9.1.0.4 produces, when building _eh.o
(libgcc.a).

RELOCATION RECORDS FOR [.eh_frame]:
OFFSET   TYPE              VALUE 
0000001c R_MIPS_32         .text
00000038 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000054 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000074 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000084 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000094 R_MIPS_32         .text
000000e4 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000134 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000144 R_MIPS_32         .text
00000160 R_MIPS_32         .text
0000017c R_MIPS_32         .text
00000198 R_MIPS_32         .text

000001b5 R_MIPS_32         .text
     ^^^

This bug is most likely responsible for my problems with libstdc++ on
my little endian box (SIGBUS in ld.so.1, when a program is linked against
libstc++). On the Indy I've build egcs with patched binutils 2.8.1 and there 
libstdc++ works, while on my Olli it doesn't (build with binutils 2.9.1.0.4).
Right now I'm rebuilding egcs to see, whether all of my libcstdc++ problems
are gone.

Thomas.

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you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-)
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I can successfully compile kernel after removing #include.

BTW, I brought SGI Linux Indy to TLUG(Tokyo Linux Users Group, mainly
consists of English speaking people who lives in Japan) meeting
and show them HardHat. They are very interested in SGI Linux project.

Cheers,
Takeshi

From: Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>
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> On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 04:13:25PM +0900, Takeshi Hakamada wrote:
> > I tried to compile kernel on HardHat using RPM kernel(2.1.100) source,
> > I can't build kernel due to following error.
> > In arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c, 
> > 
> > setup.c:18: asm/vector.h: No such file or directory
> 
> that's already fixed in the CVS repository. You just have to remove
> the #include in setup.c.
> 
> > Error message shows that I need to have include/asm/vector.h.
> > How can I get vector.h? Do I have to get latest kernel source from
> > ftp.linux.sgi.com?
> 
> As this should be the only change, you don't need to.
> 
> Thomas.
> 
> -- 
> See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like Linux,
> you have to be a sneaky bastard too ;-)
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On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:32:04PM -0600, Eric Jorgensen wrote:

>     On a completely unrelated note - out of curiosity I pulled the heatsink
> off the cpu in my system - Never seen a mips 4k processor before. Anyway, I
> was surprised to find the word "PROTOTYPE" emblazoned acrost the chip. Is
> this common? Or do I have something really cool/funky here? if anybody
> wants to see, I have a digital camera here.

Maybe some long time MIPSer can tell something about this chip?  Is this
the CPU version which identifies itself as version 2.2 which is the oldest
I've ever seen?

Thanks,

  Ralf

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We have an Indy (one of the earlier) that identifies itself as version 2.2.
I've never pulled the heat sink off though...

Steve

On Aug 11,  1:14pm, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> Subject: R4000 PROTOTYPE
> On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:32:04PM -0600, Eric Jorgensen wrote:
>
> >     On a completely unrelated note - out of curiosity I pulled the heatsink
> > off the cpu in my system - Never seen a mips 4k processor before. Anyway, I
> > was surprised to find the word "PROTOTYPE" emblazoned acrost the chip. Is
> > this common? Or do I have something really cool/funky here? if anybody
> > wants to see, I have a digital camera here.
>
> Maybe some long time MIPSer can tell something about this chip?  Is this
> the CPU version which identifies itself as version 2.2 which is the oldest
> I've ever seen?
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Ralf
>-- End of excerpt from ralf@uni-koblenz.de



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Hi,

I can report that I've a R4000SC running here with Linux. After hard work
(many long hours, mainly reading MIPS Manual), the VCE exceptions are now
correctly handled. R4400SC will (probably) also work now. The next step is to
make this exceptions never happen.

Greetings to Ralf, Alex and last but not least - myself.

- Ulf

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Hi,

Got this little message which crashed the machine:

Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet
$0 : 00000000 1004fc01 88008048 00000000
$4 : 88008000 88008000 fffffc18 00000001
$8 : 88009fe0 3004fc01 8803d2f8 00000003
$12: 00000038 000003e2 88350a08 89f5be18
$16: 00000000 00000000 8800a16c 00000f00
$20: a8747310 9fc45da0 00000000 9fc45da0
$24: 00000001 2ab0c110
$28: 88008000 88009e90 9fc45f0c 88013650
epc   : 880262b8
Status: 1004fc03
Cause : 00004000
Spinning...

That's in 'schedule'

    88026298:   03c0e821        move    $sp,$s8
    8802629c:   8fbf0040        lw      $ra,64($sp)
    880262a0:   8fbe003c        lw      $s8,60($sp)
    880262a4:   8fb40038        lw      $s4,56($sp)
    880262a8:   8fb30034        lw      $s3,52($sp)
    880262ac:   8fb20030        lw      $s2,48($sp)
    880262b0:   8fb1002c        lw      $s1,44($sp)
    880262b4:   8fb00028        lw      $s0,40($sp)
    880262b8:   03e00008        jr      $ra
    880262bc:   27bd0048        addiu   $sp,$sp,72

00000000880262c0 <__wake_up>:
    880262c0:   27bdfff8        addiu   $sp,$sp,-8
    880262c4:   afbe0000        sw      $s8,0($sp)

Do you know anything about this Ralf? Maybe it's fixed in some version I don't
have yet?

- Ulf

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> Thx, it work fine, (booting) but i need a INSTALL Kernel (Bootp/NFS ROOT)
> for
> installing the system.

Nice to hear :)

I have compiled a version with bootp and nfs root now on your demand,
sgilinux-sc-2.tgz. Have fun.

- Ulf

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On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 at 08:45:00PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> Got this little message which crashed the machine:
> 
> Got a bus error IRQ, shouldn't happen yet
> $0 : 00000000 1004fc01 88008048 00000000
> $4 : 88008000 88008000 fffffc18 00000001
> $8 : 88009fe0 3004fc01 8803d2f8 00000003
> $12: 00000038 000003e2 88350a08 89f5be18
> $16: 00000000 00000000 8800a16c 00000f00
> $20: a8747310 9fc45da0 00000000 9fc45da0
> $24: 00000001 2ab0c110
> $28: 88008000 88009e90 9fc45f0c 88013650
> epc   : 880262b8
> Status: 1004fc03
> Cause : 00004000
> Spinning...
> 
> That's in 'schedule'
> 
>     88026298:   03c0e821        move    $sp,$s8
>     8802629c:   8fbf0040        lw      $ra,64($sp)
>     880262a0:   8fbe003c        lw      $s8,60($sp)
>     880262a4:   8fb40038        lw      $s4,56($sp)
>     880262a8:   8fb30034        lw      $s3,52($sp)
>     880262ac:   8fb20030        lw      $s2,48($sp)
>     880262b0:   8fb1002c        lw      $s1,44($sp)
>     880262b4:   8fb00028        lw      $s0,40($sp)
>     880262b8:   03e00008        jr      $ra
>     880262bc:   27bd0048        addiu   $sp,$sp,72
> 
> 00000000880262c0 <__wake_up>:
>     880262c0:   27bdfff8        addiu   $sp,$sp,-8
>     880262c4:   afbe0000        sw      $s8,0($sp)
> 
> Do you know anything about this Ralf? Maybe it's fixed in some version I don't
> have yet?

No, I have no idea what might be causing this.  I myself got bus errors
now and then but for me they have disappeared.  Looks like I fixed them
en passer.

The bad thing with a bus error is that it may be delayed for a very long
time thus resulting in a useless program counter.  What happens is that
the CPU writes to some invalid address but the write access over the
system bus is delayed because the writeback cache policy is being used.
Later, maybe even much later, when the cacheline gets written back to
memory for some reason the system board signals a bus error interrupt.
At this point the program counter may already be completly useless.

I'm shure this has happened in your case as well.

  Ralf

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Is someone going to take to task merging our latest kernel into 2.1.116?
It would be really good to get everything in for 2.2.

I don't mind taking a stab at it, although I'm supposed to be packing for
my move to Toronto in two weeks (finally!).

- Alex

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ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes:
...
 > The bad thing with a bus error is that it may be delayed for a very long
 > time thus resulting in a useless program counter.  What happens is that
 > the CPU writes to some invalid address but the write access over the
 > system bus is delayed because the writeback cache policy is being used.
 > Later, maybe even much later, when the cacheline gets written back to
 > memory for some reason the system board signals a bus error interrupt.
 > At this point the program counter may already be completly useless.
...

     You cannot get a delayed bus error on a cached write, unless
you do a "create dirty exclusive" cache operation to validate the line
before writing.  You can get delayed bus errors on uncached writes,
as to device control registers.  Since any K1SEG address is uncached,
it is not too hard to generate a bus error with a bad pointer value.

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Hi,

Here's the patch for SC, still some BUS Errors when using the network device
(bootp doesn't work), sometimes even without obvious reason.

- Ulf

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--- head.S	Thu Jul  9 19:51:48 1998
+++ sgi-lin/linux/arch/mips/kernel/head.S	Tue Aug 18 22:34:35 1998
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
  *  Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998 Ralf Baechle
  *  Modified for DECStation and hence R3000 support by Paul M. Antoine
  *  Further modifications by David S. Miller
+ *  Modified for R4000SC/R44000SC support by Ulf Carlsson
  *
  *  Head.S contains the MIPS exception handler and startup code.
  */
@@ -22,6 +23,7 @@
 #include <asm/stackframe.h>
 #include <asm/bootinfo.h>
 #include <asm/cpu.h>
+#include <asm/cacheops.h>
 
 	.text
 	/*
@@ -315,16 +317,46 @@
 	NESTED(except_vec3_r4000, 0, sp)
 	.set	noat
 	mfc0	k1, CP0_CAUSE
-
-	/* XXX Have to check for VCE's _before_ we do a load or store. */
-
-	la	k0, exception_handlers
 	andi	k1, k1, 0x7c
+	li	k0, 31<<2
+	beq	k1, k0, handle_vced
+	 li	k0, 14<<2
+	beq	k1, k0, handle_vcei
+	 la	k0, exception_handlers
 	addu	k0, k0, k1
 	lw	k0, (k0)
 	nop
 	jr	k0
 	 nop
+
+/*
+ * Big shit, we now may have two dirty primary cache lines for the same
+ * physical address.  We can savely invalidate the line pointed to by
+ * c0_badvaddr because after return from this exception handler the load /
+ * store will be re-executed.
+ *
+ * XXX should bitch on console.
+ */
+handle_vced:
+	mfc0	k0, CP0_BADVADDR
+	mtc0	zero, CP0_TAGLO
+	nop;nop
+	cache	Index_Store_Tag_D,(k0)
+	nop;nop
+	cache	Hit_Writeback_Inv_SD,(k0)
+	eret
+
+/*
+ * VCEI is simpler and should never happen unless userland is doing something
+ * really stupid.  It's actually worth a SIGFRY.
+ *
+ * XXX should bitch on console.
+ */
+handle_vcei:
+	mfc0	k0, CP0_BADVADDR
+	cache	Hit_Invalidate_SD,(k0)		# also cleans pi
+	eret
+
 	END(except_vec3_r4000)
 	.set	at
 

--ELM903556985-13659-0_--

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If there's no objections from the MIPS kernel hackers here, I'll apply
this to the CVS.

- Alex

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:03:05 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Ulf Carlsson <grim@zigzegv.ml.org>
> To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com
> Subject: [PATCH] sc
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here's the patch for SC, still some BUS Errors when using the network device
> (bootp doesn't work), sometimes even without obvious reason.
> 
> - Ulf
> 


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On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:
> Is someone going to take to task merging our latest kernel into 2.1.116?

I exchanged some emails with Ralf, and he said, that he has started merging
with .115. I've commited the newport abscon and g364 fbcon driver, so
he could even test the merged sources:-) But I haven't heard anything since
then from him about the merge.

> It would be really good to get everything in for 2.2.

I doubt, that we will be able to merge all the stuff. But we will see.

> I don't mind taking a stab at it, although I'm supposed to be packing for
> my move to Toronto in two weeks (finally!).

looks like moving time everywhere. I'll move most of my stuff next
weekend.

Thomas.

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Hi,

before I'll ask a bigger audience, I ask here:

As some of you know, emacs dies, when started to open it's own
X window on Linux/MIPS. While trying to debug emacs with gdb,
I found out, that emacs kills it's own .mdebug section when it dumps
(it inserts a new .data section, which kills all references in
the .mdebug section).

Now I'm looking for a way to start a X session with temacs, which has
a working .mdebug section. I'm able to do a temacs -l loadup, which 
will give me a "normal" looking emacs. But I haven't found a way to get 
temacs to create a X session.

Any hints ?

Thomas.

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On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:51:42PM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> Now I'm looking for a way to start a X session with temacs, which has
> a working .mdebug section. I'm able to do a temacs -l loadup, which 
> will give me a "normal" looking emacs. But I haven't found a way to get 
> temacs to create a X session.
> 
> Any hints ?

You're doomed.  At least on XEmacs this hasn't worked for a while, and
I guess FSF Emacs isn't in any better shape  in that area.  Fixing the
undumping code  may  be easier.   Too bad I've   not yet been  able to
install linux on  the indy I  use or I  would probably have fixed that
myself for XEmacs.

  OG.


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On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 04:16:52PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:

> If there's no objections from the MIPS kernel hackers here, I'll apply
> this to the CVS.

Don't, it wont work for non-SC CPUs.

  Ralf

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On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 07:31:05PM -0700, William J. Earl wrote:

> ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes:
> ...
>  > The bad thing with a bus error is that it may be delayed for a very long
>  > time thus resulting in a useless program counter.  What happens is that
>  > the CPU writes to some invalid address but the write access over the
>  > system bus is delayed because the writeback cache policy is being used.
>  > Later, maybe even much later, when the cacheline gets written back to
>  > memory for some reason the system board signals a bus error interrupt.
>  > At this point the program counter may already be completly useless.
> ...
> 
>      You cannot get a delayed bus error on a cached write, unless
> you do a "create dirty exclusive" cache operation to validate the line
> before writing.

Linux uses Create_Dirty_Excl_D as optimization where possible, so the
probability for this to happen is relativly high.  Linux however should
never use Create_Dirty_Excl_D or Create_Dirty_Excl_SD on R4[04]00SC
CPUs, have to verify this.

>                  You can get delayed bus errors on uncached writes,
> as to device control registers.  Since any K1SEG address is uncached,
> it is not too hard to generate a bus error with a bad pointer value.

  Ralf

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On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:34:29PM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:
> > Is someone going to take to task merging our latest kernel into 2.1.116?
> 
> I exchanged some emails with Ralf, and he said, that he has started merging
> with .115. I've commited the newport abscon and g364 fbcon driver, so
> he could even test the merged sources:-) But I haven't heard anything since
> then from him about the merge.
> 
> > It would be really good to get everything in for 2.2.
> 
> I doubt, that we will be able to merge all the stuff. But we will see.

The code freeze has become a real freeze.  Luckily we won't have to touch
sensitive parts of the kernel except a couple of rather simple mm changes.

> > I don't mind taking a stab at it, although I'm supposed to be packing for
> > my move to Toronto in two weeks (finally!).
> 
> looks like moving time everywhere. I'll move most of my stuff next
> weekend.

I've just finished merging and debugging .111.  The new console code is
nice, Thomas.  It accelerated the Indy console from Sun 3 style performance
to too fast to read performance.  Things that I noticed

 - bb is still broken when using aalib's Linux console driver
 - We seem to have an off by one error.  The topmost scanline is also being
   displayed at the bottom of the screen.
 - The display as programmed by Linux is somewhat offseted from IRIX's.  Bad
   because one has to reduce the size of the display and still the display
   will wander around when switching between operating systems.
 - I broke the esp driver.

  Ralf

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Oups, I'll fix that later today.

> Don't, it wont work for non-SC CPUs.


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On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 02:28:18AM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> I've just finished merging and debugging .111.  The new console code is
> nice, Thomas.  It accelerated the Indy console from Sun 3 style performance
> to too fast to read performance.  Things that I noticed

thanks.

>  - bb is still broken when using aalib's Linux console driver

I'll have a look at it.

>  - We seem to have an off by one error.  The topmost scanline is also being
>    displayed at the bottom of the screen.

upps, never noticed that. There is another known bug in the console.
If you insert a character sometimes the character gets painted twice, one
at the correct position, the other at the end of the line.

>  - The display as programmed by Linux is somewhat offseted from IRIX's.  Bad
>    because one has to reduce the size of the display and still the display
>    will wander around when switching between operating systems.

I had to do this, otherwise we lose speed. I haven't found a solution, yet.
If I find one, we can also do other console resolutions.

>  - I broke the esp driver.

how that ? I thought there were only changes, which are already in our
tree (I guess your talking about NCR53C9x).

Thomas.

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On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 12:02:37AM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> You're doomed.  At least on XEmacs this hasn't worked for a while, and
> I guess FSF Emacs isn't in any better shape  in that area.  Fixing the
> undumping code  may  be easier.

Thanks for the tip. It was fairly easy to fix the undumping code, because
everything was already there. It was just ifdef'd out for Linux. Now
I have a dumped emacs with working debugging information and a lot
to learn about XtCreateWidget().

Thomas.

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On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 08:44:51AM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> >  - We seem to have an off by one error.  The topmost scanline is also being
> >    displayed at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> upps, never noticed that. There is another known bug in the console.
> If you insert a character sometimes the character gets painted twice, one
> at the correct position, the other at the end of the line.

Never seen that happen on my machine.  I had the problem that the two topmost
lines were wrapped to the bottom.  Changing the screen size in <asm/bootinfo.h>
to 160 x 64 fixed that.

> >  - The display as programmed by Linux is somewhat offseted from IRIX's.  Bad
> >    because one has to reduce the size of the display and still the display
> >    will wander around when switching between operating systems.
> 
> I had to do this, otherwise we lose speed. I haven't found a solution, yet.
> If I find one, we can also do other console resolutions.

  Ralf

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Jan,

First, ther are some problems with the installer's partitioner; to avoid
this, make your disk an 'option' disk under Irix.  This will set up one
big partition to install onto. Just skip partitioning altogether in the
installer, then.


I expect you can fix your bootp problems by debugging it by using tcpdump
or another packet sniffer on the network. However, forcing it like you are
is just fine too.

- Alex

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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Jan F. Chadima wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:03:53 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: "Jan F. Chadima" <jfch@ruzenka.prf.cuni.cz>
> To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca
> Subject: Installing indy - help please
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've tried to install linux on indy (hardhat 5.1), I got some problems
> 
> 1) I can't see screen 158 x 62 as is proclamated, but only 127 x 47 upper left corner
> 
> 2) I can't boot by bootp, it does nothing (return to monitor)
> 
> 3) If booted vmlinux from irix with nfsroot=... I get install, then I can select packages,
> 	format the partition, but just after that install dies with signal 11
> 
> 
> 	Can You Help me?
> 
> 				J. F. Chadima 	(jfch@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz)
> 
> 


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> 
> First, ther are some problems with the installer's partitioner; to avoid
> this, make your disk an 'option' disk under Irix.  This will set up one
> big partition to install onto. Just skip partitioning altogether in the
> installer, then.
> 

which problems exaclty and which partition tool are you talking about exactly?
fdisk was able to create a working partition layout for me at least ..

o.


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Hi,

I managed to install Hardhat on my Indy. It's working fine. Due to
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Good work, guys!

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On Fri, Aug 21, 1998 at 02:28:24AM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> Never seen that happen on my machine.  I had the problem that the two topmost
> lines were wrapped to the bottom.  Changing the screen size in <asm/bootinfo.h>
> to 160 x 64 fixed that.

cool, you are now using the resolution for which the console was written for.
Sorry, I forgot to tell you this. Without the 64 lines the scrolling stuff
doesn't work properly.

Thomas.

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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Alexander Ehlert wrote:
> I managed to install Hardhat on my Indy. It's working fine. Due to
> problems with the installer I simply installed by hand. Now I have to
> explore the realms of sgi-linux. I'm really impressed :)

Can you let us know what the problems with the installer were, and how you
got around them?

- Alex


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Hi,

> Can you let us know what the problems with the installer were, and how you
> got around them?

At first I got the hardhat-5.1 alpha1 archive. Booting with tftp was no
problem. After the package selection the installer was not able to
open the rpm database. The programm received a signal 11 and terminated.
The kernel output was not helpful. So I initialized the rpm database
in the nfsroot environment and the next time the installer started
extracting the packages. But a lot of packages failed with "execution of
script failed". The kernel reported excepions from ldconfig and afterwards
every program I wanted to start on the second tty terminated with
segmentation fault. I found no way to get around that. Then I got
the testinstall-tree from the devel directory and the packages from
redhat5.1alpha2. After that I installed a few packages in this tree
like fileutils, mount and so on. During the manual install I experienced
that after the installation of the bash and the glibc package in the
installation directory all installation scripts worked fine. I think
the installer should at first install this packages in the install
directory, because rpm chroots to this dir. In the meantime I have
a lot of packages installed, but without the use of installer.
So I still lack some important packages, but it's going on...

A few questions:
  - can I use the mouse with gpm, which device ?
  - which one is the newest kernel version, and where can I get it ?
  - I installed egcs, should I better use gcc ?
  - does the XFree86-FB work, where can I get developer versions ?
  
Alex.

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I've found the cause for the emacs X11 problems. The unexec code of Emacs
doesn't handle relocations in the .rel.dyn section, because Mips seems to
be the only platform, which uses such section (sgi and sni, are using
a different implementation of unexec). This mishandling leads to an emacs
binary, which has double resolved dynamic relocations (once when dumped,
twice when executed), which leads to a seg fault. It happens only with
X11, because the relocations are only for X11 stuff.

I'll try to fix that, but it would be good to have some documentation about
the .rel.dyn section, which looks a little bit different than the i386
.rel.data section). Any pointers other than the bfd source code ?

Thomas.

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On Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 10:36:47PM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> I've found the cause for the emacs X11 problems. The unexec code of Emacs
> doesn't handle relocations in the .rel.dyn section, because Mips seems to
> be the only platform, which uses such section (sgi and sni, are using
> a different implementation of unexec). This mishandling leads to an emacs
> binary, which has double resolved dynamic relocations (once when dumped,
> twice when executed), which leads to a seg fault. It happens only with
> X11, because the relocations are only for X11 stuff.
> 
> I'll try to fix that, but it would be good to have some documentation about
> the .rel.dyn section, which looks a little bit different than the i386
> .rel.data section). Any pointers other than the bfd source code ?

I think you can find the related ABI documentation on www.mipsabi.org.
What details exactly are you interested in?  I've got a printed copy at
home.

  Ralf

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The net access to Linus is really slow, I'll retry tomorrow.  There is
no sense in trying to continue at the current performance level or rather
it's opposite :-(

  Ralf

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Hi,

What a pleasure to write the first report of 2.1.116 :)
Here are the two last lines of the boot sequence:

IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
_


(no qualified guesses from me yet)

- Ulf

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On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 12:19:30PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> I think you can find the related ABI documentation on www.mipsabi.org.

ok, I've found what I was looking for.

> What details exactly are you interested in?  I've got a printed copy at
> home.

On other ELF platforms .rel section reference the section for which the
relocations are for in the sh_info section header. This field is 0 for
.rel.dyn sections. The ABI document states that the relocations for
.data and .sdata sections, so I know what I wanted to know:-)

Another questione does gcc/egcs produce .sdata, .lit4 or .li8 sections
on Linux/MIPS ?

Thomas.

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On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 07:41:49PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> What a pleasure to write the first report of 2.1.116 :)
> Here are the two last lines of the boot sequence:
> 
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP

For me 2.1.116 works out of the box on the Indy (R4600). Good work Ralf !
Only my Olli doesn't like the new kernel, but that's something I'll sort
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Thomas.

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On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 07:41:49PM +0200, Ulf Carlsson wrote:

> What a pleasure to write the first report of 2.1.116 :)
> Here are the two last lines of the boot sequence:
> 
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP

Seen that hang, no idea what's the problem.  It was not repeatable for me.
117 has another hanger while booting and that one is repeatable.

  Ralf

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Finally[1] I've got my Indy connected to a Debian 2.0 pentium that has
the tarball of the dist formerly known as Hard Hat.

The kernel boots locally *and* with bootp, putting me into the installer
in either case.  According to the pc's syslog, the Indy successfully
nfsmounts the installfs directory.  After mounting /dev/sdb1 (without
checking), the installer fails with this:

	Fatal error opening RPM database (I pick "Ok")
	install exited abnormally...received signal 11

Is this a configuration problem, in which case I should continue to
pursue the perfect tftp config, or would it be simpler to finish the
process manually as others have done?

Thanks,

Mike


Footnotes: 
[1]  Recently moving to a country estate means my ISP is no longer a
local call.  I was able to download Hard Hat at the rate of about
20M/day.

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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Arnaud Le Neel wrote:
> >> boot -f bootp()linux.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
> Setting $netaddr to 192.93.44.35 (for server server.cyceron.fr)
> Obtaining vmlinux from server.cyceron.fr
> Cannot reload bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
> Illegal f_magik number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC
> Unable to load bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux: execute format error
> PS: Here is the description of the Indy i want to boot Linux:
> 	IP22 100MHz R4000 with FPU

Hm.  Sounds to me like a processor thing.  Could that be, Ralf?  I'm not
sure I've seen anyone try on an R4000 before, and if so, wha the
implications of are for its cache.

Either that, or somehow there's a bootloader issue.  I expect the MIPSEB
or MIPSEL Magic is part of the (ecoff?) header; perhaps the image you're
booting from or your version of ARC is somehow incorrect. Ralf?

- Alex


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Mike,

	First off, help is no longer really that far away, as I'll be
moving to Toronto this coming Sunday (near Yonge and Shepherd for the
month of Sept, then Queen's Quay and Yonge thereafter). Finally!


On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Mike Hill wrote:
> Finally[1] I've got my Indy connected to a Debian 2.0 pentium that has
> the tarball of the dist formerly known as Hard Hat.
> The kernel boots locally *and* with bootp, putting me into the installer
> in either case.  According to the pc's syslog, the Indy successfully
> nfsmounts the installfs directory.  After mounting /dev/sdb1 (without
> checking), the installer fails with this:
> 	Fatal error opening RPM database (I pick "Ok")
> 	install exited abnormally...received signal 11

Some questions to help guide us to the right solution:
- when you log the files beign accessed on the PC's NFS, do you see it
opening anything in /RedHat/base ?  Can you check and see this?
- if you'd like, I can just mail you this CD with Rough Cuts on it, thus
preventing the situation where you're missing a couple of files, etc.
You're also welcome to pick it up.

God, I should really revisit the installer and fix it.

- Alex



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Hi,

I'm quite newbie on SGI/Linux, even if i know Linux and Unix. I'm
trying to boot with HardHat 5.1 (Manhattan) on an Indy (see below)
via a i686/Linux and here is what happens:

>> boot -f bootp()linux.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
Setting $netaddr to 192.93.44.35 (for server server.cyceron.fr)
Obtaining vmlinux from server.cyceron.fr

Cannot reload bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
Illegal f_magik number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC
Unable to load bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux: execute format error

Did anyone ever seen this message, and what is the solution, if there
is one ?

Thanks for your help
arno

PS: Here is the description of the Indy i want to boot Linux:
	IP22 100MHz R4000 with FPU
	Memory size 48 Mb

-- 
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> > Cannot reload bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
> > Illegal f_magik number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC
> > Unable to load bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux: execute format error
> > PS: Here is the description of the Indy i want to boot Linux:
> > 	IP22 100MHz R4000 with FPU
> 
> Hm.  Sounds to me like a processor thing.  Could that be, Ralf?  I'm not
> sure I've seen anyone try on an R4000 before, and if so, wha the
> implications of are for its cache.

I remember I tried to boot something like 2.1.7* on our older indy
with R4000 and the message was very much like this. Shall I retry?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Honza Pazdziora writes:
 > 
 > > > Cannot reload bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
 > > > Illegal f_magik number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC
 > > > Unable to load bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux: execute format error
 > > > PS: Here is the description of the Indy i want to boot Linux:
 > > > 	IP22 100MHz R4000 with FPU
 > > 
 > > Hm.  Sounds to me like a processor thing.  Could that be, Ralf?  I'm not
 > > sure I've seen anyone try on an R4000 before, and if so, wha the
 > > implications of are for its cache.
 > 
 > I remember I tried to boot something like 2.1.7* on our older indy
 > with R4000 and the message was very much like this. Shall I retry?

      The PROM on older Indy systems, especially those with R4000
processors, may only support MIPS ECOFF binaries.  Are you booting an
ELF or an ECOFF kernel binary?  If you have an ELF kernel binary, and
it cannot be converted to ECOFF, you may need a two-level loading scheme.
Note that you could try loading sash from the local disk, and then
have sash boot vmlinux via bootp(), since sash does know about 
ELF binaries.

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On Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 01:55:29PM -0700, William J. Earl wrote:

>       The PROM on older Indy systems, especially those with R4000
> processors, may only support MIPS ECOFF binaries.  Are you booting an
> ELF or an ECOFF kernel binary?  If you have an ELF kernel binary, and
> it cannot be converted to ECOFF, you may need a two-level loading scheme.
> Note that you could try loading sash from the local disk, and then
> have sash boot vmlinux via bootp(), since sash does know about 
> ELF binaries.

For Indys we currently only build ELF kernels.  I've implemented a clean
solution how to boot ECOFF systems because I needed that for the RC3230,
I'll publish it when it's debugged.

  Ralf

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On Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 01:16:44PM -0400, Alex deVries wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Arnaud Le Neel wrote:
> > >> boot -f bootp()linux.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
> > Setting $netaddr to 192.93.44.35 (for server server.cyceron.fr)
> > Obtaining vmlinux from server.cyceron.fr
> > Cannot reload bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux
> > Illegal f_magik number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC
> > Unable to load bootp()server.cyceron.fr:vmlinux: execute format error
> > PS: Here is the description of the Indy i want to boot Linux:
> > 	IP22 100MHz R4000 with FPU
> 
> Hm.  Sounds to me like a processor thing.  Could that be, Ralf?  I'm not
> sure I've seen anyone try on an R4000 before, and if so, wha the
> implications of are for its cache.

No, _this_ is not a processor thing.  However some 100MHz R4000 have a
processor bug (the count/compare thing) which we don't handle yet.  The
bug shouldn't be lethal it might just result in temporary lockup of the
machine for about 86s during which no more timer interrupt are being
delivered.  The fix is known; it just needs to be implemented.

  Ralf

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On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 10:56:03PM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> Another questione does gcc/egcs produce .sdata, .lit4 or .li8 sections
> on Linux/MIPS ?

These sections are mostly being used for code using global pointer
optimization.  .lit8 is also being used for fp code when assembling li.d
macros.

For kernel code global pointer optimization is incompatible
with our current use of $gp as the current pointer; in userland gp
optimization is incompatible with PIC code.

  Ralf

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Alright.  First, I'm very sorry for not having done this, I know violating
the GPL is probably a REALLY BAD IDEA.  It wasn't intentional, I've just
been short on brain and network bandwidth.

In any case, the SRPMs for all of hardhat/rough cuts are on
ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/hardhat/SRPMS .  They're uploading now; I'm on
XFree86-3.3.2-8.src.rpm at this point; I expect it'll run all day.

Again, sorry.  It's something I should have done long ago.  All I'm doing,
actually, is just uploading everythign that's on the CDROM.

- Alex

-- 
Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet.
http://www.engsoc.carleton.ca/~adevries/ .



On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Gleb O. Rajko wrote:

> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:05:43 +0400 (MSD)
> From: "Gleb O. Rajko" <rajko@mech.math.msu.su>
> To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca
> Subject: MIPS RedHad SRPMSes
> 
> 
> Alex,
> 
> You promised to put source RPMSes on ftp.linux.sgi.com. Could you put 
> them or point me at exact location ? I've got problems with some binaries 
> and would like to recompile and debug them.
> 
> Regards,
> Gleb Raiko.
> 


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Hi,

after reinstalling all the work I've done during the last months into
CVS, I'm proud to announce, that the current CVS tree compiles and works
on my Olivetti M700 again.

Thomas.

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On Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 12:31:54PM +0200, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 10:56:03PM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> 
> > Another questione does gcc/egcs produce .sdata, .lit4 or .li8 sections
> > on Linux/MIPS ?
> 
> These sections are mostly being used for code using global pointer
> optimization.  .lit8 is also being used for fp code when assembling li.d
> macros.

as they don't show up in the temacs binary, I'll ignore them for unexec().

With a crude hack in unexec(), I now have a emcas binary, which will show up
an empty X window. Looking with strace and tcpdump it looks like emacs
tries to do more X work, but doesn't succeed. Stuff for the weekend ...

Thomas.

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Here follows an approximation of the tail of the nfsd output
culminating in the failure of the installer with the message "Fatal
error opening RPM database."  All of this occurs after package
selection.

Thanks,

Mike
-- 
Michael Hill
somewhere near Toronto
mdhill@interlog.com

nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:00 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 561152
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:00 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 634880
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:00 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 638976
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:00 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 630784
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:08 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 184320
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 lookup [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        fh:/disk/installfs n:mntSwap000
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        new_fh = /disk/installfs/mntSwap000
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 217088
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 221184
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 385024
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 389120
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/lib/libc-2.0.6.so: 4096 bytes at 598016
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 lookup [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        fh:/disk/installfs/dev n:tty5
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        new_fh = /disk/installfs/dev/tty5
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 565248
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 569344
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 757760
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:00 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 761856
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/lib/libc-2.0.6.so: 4096 bytes at 122880
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/lib/libc-2.0.6.so: 4096 bytes at 126976
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/lib/libc-2.0.6.so: 4096 bytes at 73728
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:13 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 225280
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:39 result: 0
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:41 read [1 69/12/31 19:01:32 localhost.localdomain 0.0]
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:41        /disk/installfs/sbin/install2: 4096 bytes at 258048
nfsd[173] 08/28/98 19:41 result: 0

From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com  Mon Aug 31 09:56:53 1998
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Hi,
Has someone managed to mount a CD yet?

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc ==
88021bcc, ra == 880f51c4 Oops: 0000

....

epc   : 88021bcc
Status: 3004fc02
Cause : 00000008
Segmentition fault


Then i get the prompt back.

The second time I try:

scsi: aborting command due to timeout : pid 665, scsi0, channel 0, id4,
lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
scsi0: Aborting connected command 665 - stopping DMA sending wd33c93 ABORT
command - flushing fifo - asr=00, sr=16, 0 bytes un-transferred
(timeout=-1) - sending wd33c93 DISCONNECT command - asr=00, sr=16.page
fault from irq handler: 0000

...

epc   : 88021bcc
Status: 1004fc02
Cause : 00000008
Aiee killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing

Really lots of error messages.

Well, I was thinking if I could boot from the cd and install without
networking, doesn't work very well though.

- Ulf


