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On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 10:20:25PM -0700, Michael W. Folsom wrote:

> is what it doesn't say!  Chiefly I find no mention of porting Irix to 
> Intel chips and abandoning MIPS chips.  I seem to remember mention
> of that somewhere else.  Prehaps they are seeing the writing on the 
> wall that the much touted Merced chip ain't going to be all its been 
> cracked up to be and have decided to keep their options open.  

No magic involved, Merced is simply very delayed and switching the
architecture isn't something to be done on one day.

  Ralf

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Hi,

I've looked at the HAL2 driver, and everything is looking strange hardware-
wise. The driver first resets the hardware by clearing the isr register and 
setting the appropriate bits afterwards. But reading back isr indicates, that
the hardware is still in reset state. I've removed clearing of the isr, so the
driver just writes the same value as was before. This still leads to a HAL2
in reset state. Even removing the reset code completly the HAL2 acts very
strange. Doing the first indirect register access, causes as set busy bit
in isr, that's all. Any ideas ?

Thomas.

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Hi Thomas,

> I've looked at the HAL2 driver,

Cool :)

> and everything is looking strange hardware- wise.

I was actually thinking exactly the same thought.

> The driver first resets the hardware by clearing the isr register and setting
> the appropriate bits afterwards.

I was looking at the sgiseeq.c, and I've actually stolen some ideas from it. For
example are we doing the reset (trying to do?) in about the same way.

> But reading back isr indicates, that the hardware is still in reset state.
> I've removed clearing of the isr, so the driver just writes the same value as
> was before. This still leads to a HAL2 in reset state. Even removing the reset
> code completly the HAL2 acts very strange. Doing the first indirect register
> access, causes as set busy bit in isr, that's all. Any ideas

Hm, I haven't been able to set the busy bit, how did you manage to do that?

It looks to me like some volatile bug, causing the driver not to read back the
values directly from the card. But everything seems to be ok.

By the way, did you notice that isr is 0x0018 before you reset the card? This is
one of the strange things. Maybe it's because Alex didn't reboot his computer
after reinserting the driver again. If this is the case, why doesn't the card
enter active mode again before the driver has failed to activate it?

- Ulf

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Hi.

I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
something about irq request handler.

I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.

What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?

Bye,
	LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:23:39PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 05:14:44PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> > Is it possible to download the BIOS and disassemble it to check how to do it
> > correctly?
> 
> should be doable, but I guess disassembling the IRIX driver might be easier.
> I've hoped someone at SGI could help us out.

I think we should ask them kindly then:

Does anyone at SGI know how the HAL2 works?

We can't get it working correctly, it doesn't come back to normal state after
the reset. Even if we write 0x0018 to isr, to enable the chip, it still shows
0x0000. It's certainly off because we can't write to the indirect registers in
this state

If we don't reset the HAL2, leaving it the way it is when after playing the boot
sound, we can't write to the indirect registers. The busy bit doesn't go off.

The only thing which works correctly is reading the version register.

- Ulf

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Alexander,

I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
Will try the boot later tonight.

I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.

Chad

Alexander Graefe wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.
>
> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
>
> What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
>
> Bye,
>         LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
> --
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Alexander Graefe wrote:
> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.
> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.

I should rebuild that kernel to have root nfs in it, although my kernel
tree's currently wrapped up with gross graphics.o modularization stuff.

I'll see what I can do.

- Alex

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:

->Alexander,
->
->I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
->another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
->should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
->Will try the boot later tonight.
->
->I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
->gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
->

no siree, me too .. just that I have not gotten around to reporting on my
attempts ..

yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
not being NFS bootable would explain that ..

Shrijeet

he who one day will find the time to build a cross-compile environment
:-() 


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Shrijeet,

Have you ever gotten your R4400 to boot *any* Linux kernel? I was starting
think that through some strange conspiracy that the entire linux-mips
community has R4600 CPUs.

As long as we are on the subject of hardware..... There are many different
rev levels of gfx, cpu and prom for Indy. Has anyone ever tracked a
particular problem to harware revision levels?

Chad


Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
>
> ->Alexander,
> ->
> ->I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
> ->another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
> ->should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
> ->Will try the boot later tonight.
> ->
> ->I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
> ->gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
> ->
>
> no siree, me too .. just that I have not gotten around to reporting on my
> attempts ..
>
> yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
> not being NFS bootable would explain that ..
>
> Shrijeet
>
> he who one day will find the time to build a cross-compile environment
> :-()

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Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:23:39PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 05:14:44PM +0100, Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> > > Is it possible to download the BIOS and disassemble it to check how to do it
> > > correctly?
> >
> > should be doable, but I guess disassembling the IRIX driver might be easier.
> > I've hoped someone at SGI could help us out.
> 
> I think we should ask them kindly then:
> 
> Does anyone at SGI know how the HAL2 works?
> 
> We can't get it working correctly, it doesn't come back to normal state after
> the reset. Even if we write 0x0018 to isr, to enable the chip, it still shows
> 0x0000. It's certainly off because we can't write to the indirect registers in
> this state
> 

I don't know anything about the HAL2, but looking in hal2.h it says
0=reset, so from what I can see you write 0x0018 to it and then it
should read 0x0000 when it is reset.  Maybe this part is working ok for
you and the problem is further along?

There are other people who would know this better though!

Cheers, Alistair

> If we don't reset the HAL2, leaving it the way it is when after playing the boot
> sound, we can't write to the indirect registers. The busy bit doesn't go off.
> 
> The only thing which works correctly is reading the version register.
> 
> - Ulf

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> I don't know anything about the HAL2, but looking in hal2.h it says
> 0=reset, so from what I can see you write 0x0018 to it and then it
> should read 0x0000 when it is reset.

The spec says:

Bit 3, Global reset R/W:
Assertion of hardware reset i.e. RESET_N, set this to zero. Software brings the
HAL2 out of reset by setting this bit and may reset the HAL2 by clearing it.
Please note: this bit must be set before any other internal register access
occurs.
RESET = 0;
ACTIVE = 1;

Bit 4, Codec reset R/W:
Value reflected to CODEC_RESET_N pin. To reset external codecs and other
external devices.
RESET = 0; ACTIVE = 1;

This is exactly what I'm trying to do by first writing 0x0000 to isr, waiting
some us, and then writing 0x0018. Then the card should be active and isr should
IMHO contain 0x0018.

> Maybe this part is working ok for you and the problem is further along?

Nope.

- Ulf

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Ulf Carlsson wrote:
> 
> > I don't know anything about the HAL2, but looking in hal2.h it says
> > 0=reset, so from what I can see you write 0x0018 to it and then it
> > should read 0x0000 when it is reset.
> 

write 0x0
wait 50us
write 0x18

write to indirect data reg
write to indirect addr reg

spin until idirect status reg transaction status reg clears

.....


> The spec says:
> 
> Bit 3, Global reset R/W:
> Assertion of hardware reset i.e. RESET_N, set this to zero. Software brings the
> HAL2 out of reset by setting this bit and may reset the HAL2 by clearing it.
> Please note: this bit must be set before any other internal register access
> occurs.
> RESET = 0;
> ACTIVE = 1;
> 
> Bit 4, Codec reset R/W:
> Value reflected to CODEC_RESET_N pin. To reset external codecs and other
> external devices.
> RESET = 0; ACTIVE = 1;
> 
> This is exactly what I'm trying to do by first writing 0x0000 to isr, waiting
> some us, and then writing 0x0018. Then the card should be active and isr should
> IMHO contain 0x0018.
> 
> > Maybe this part is working ok for you and the problem is further along?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> - Ulf

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Hi

I`m having the same problem on my Indy(R4400). The kernel boots ok, but
after the remote root-nfs is mounted it dies with something about irq
request handler. I`m using a PC running Linux to boot from.


//Jonas

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:

> Alexander,
> 
> I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
> another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
> should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
> Will try the boot later tonight.
> 
> I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
> gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
> 
> Chad
> 
> Alexander Graefe wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> > remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> > something about irq request handler.
> >
> > I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> > that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> >
> > What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
> >
> > Bye,
> >         LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
> > --
> > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
> 
> --
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> 


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> This is exactly what I'm trying to do by first writing 0x0000 to isr, waiting
> some us, and then writing 0x0018. Then the card should be active and isr should
> IMHO contain 0x0018.

Stupid question but does

write 0x0010
wait 10uS
write 0x0018

work ?

(ie do you have to bring them out of reset card, then codec ?



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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 09:11:04PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> write 0x0010
> wait 10uS
> write 0x0018
> 
> work ?

not for me.

Thomas.

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:

> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.

Ouch.  It was actually supposed to work on Indys, regardless of the processor
type.  Since it's no longer working things must somewhow got broken again.
I'll try to fix it but it's going to be hairy since I don't have an R4400SC
processor module.

> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> 
> What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?

Can you send me:

 - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
   Aiee message is important.
 - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.

> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

In nomeni patrii et filiae et spiritus pinguini ;-)

  Ralf

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 10:30:39AM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote:

> yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
> not being NFS bootable would explain that ..

It should not just stop but print a message like ``Cannot mount root
filesystem''.

  Ralf

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Hi all,

I'm trying to build the latest cvs tree (first kernel i'm trying to
compile locally on this challenge S)

Does anyone know what's going wrong? the same kernel compiles flawlessly
on my linux/x86 system with a crosscompiler.

Down here is the error.


[root@tux linux]# make zImage
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r8000 -mips2
-pipe  -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `on_sig_stack':
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
                 from init/main.c:15:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: `current' undeclared (first
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/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: (Each undeclared identifier is
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/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: for each function it appears
in.)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:530: warning: control reaches end
of non-void function
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `sas_ss_flags':
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:534: `current' undeclared (first
use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:536: warning: control reaches end
of non-void function
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `suser':
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:561: `current' undeclared (first
use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `fsuser':
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:570: `current' undeclared (first
use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `capable':
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:586: `current' undeclared (first
use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h: In function `expand_stack':
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4,
                 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5,
                 from init/main.c:15:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:349: `current' undeclared (first use
this function)
init/main.c: In function `do_basic_setup':
init/main.c:1242: `current' undeclared (first use this function)
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1


Cheers,

Richard



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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Richard Hartensveld wrote:

>                  from init/main.c:15:
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: `current' undeclared (first
> use this function)
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: (Each undeclared identifier is
> reported only once
> /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: for each function it appears

Use egcs and you will have no problems.  You'll be a better person, too.

- Alex


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Ralf,

Got a chance to try again last night using a i686 as a bootserver. I got the
same aieee message. Will get you my hinv and my particular register dump.

Chad


ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> > remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> > something about irq request handler.
>
> Ouch.  It was actually supposed to work on Indys, regardless of the processor
> type.  Since it's no longer working things must somewhow got broken again.
> I'll try to fix it but it's going to be hairy since I don't have an R4400SC
> processor module.
>
> > I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> > that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> >
> > What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
>
> Can you send me:
>
>  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
>    Aiee message is important.
>  - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.
>
> > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>
> In nomeni patrii et filiae et spiritus pinguini ;-)
>
>   Ralf

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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 12:12:47PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Richard Hartensveld wrote:
> 
> >                  from init/main.c:15:
> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: `current' undeclared (first
> > use this function)
> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: (Each undeclared identifier is
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> > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:528: for each function it appears
> 
> Use egcs and you will have no problems.  You'll be a better person, too.

You may update the specs file instead if you want, and gcc will work. Ask me and
I'll send you the updated specs file.

- Ulf

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Hi Guys,

	Running Linux on a Indigo R4K.  Has anybody done it?  Our indigo just
locks up when we try to boot off our machine running RH 5.0.  I have an
Indy R4k...but have about 10 Indigo R4k's sitting around.  Would be nice
to get the Indigo working:)

Thanks...

	-Victor

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Hi,

look what my Indy tells me now:

resetting global isr:0018
reset done isr:0000
reactivation done isr:0018
SGI HAL2 Processor, Revision 4.1.0
hal2: checking registers
hal2: waiting isr:0019 idr0:0123 idr1:ffff idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:ffff idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: wrote #1
hal2: waiting isr:0019 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: wrote #2
hal2: waiting isr:0019 idr0:0123 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: read #1
hal2: waiting isr:0019 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: read #2
hal2: waiting isr:0019 idr0:0231 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0231 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: read #3
hal2: card found
sgiaudio: initializing


The problem was, that the access to HAL2 register must be 32bit wide, but
they were only 16bit (I'll check in the fixed hal2.h in a couple of minutes).
Silly me did the change yesterday, but the .o didn't get recompiled due to
messed up dependencies:-( So I did some changes today and it worked, removed
the changes and it still worked. 

Thomas.

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I tried this questions to some people, but I was suggested to post here.

I would like do a clean install of IRIX on an Indy, but the Indy does
not have a CDROM.  I have a linux box, running RedHat 5.1, with a CDROM
located on the same network and was wondering if there is a way to mount
the install CDs on the linux box so that the Indy can read it.  What
I've read is that there is a read-only efs module floating around, but I
can not find anywhere to download it.  The only other reference was
efsmod 0.6, but it said that it is not usable on 2.1.x kernels of
linux.  Any help would be appreciated.

After a re-install of IRIX is completed, I could help by doing a linux
load on it, but I'm a newbie to the SGI/IRIX world, and may need a
little help.

thankyou,
chad


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Chad Streck wrote:
> I tried this questions to some people, but I was suggested to post here.

I think I was one of those people; sorry for not responding earlier. 
(Insert generic whiny excuse about travelling and mail backlog and
stuff.)

The state of the EFS code in the linus CVS tree is this:
- prior to the most recent kernel merge (to 2.1.131), the code in fs/efs
was able to mount and read EFS partitions, provided that they did not
involve indirect extents.  Symlinks and stuff all worked, although
building as a module did not.
- once I merged to 2.1.131 (and then checked in the EFS code), I started
to see very odd behaviour; specifically, the inode-mode checks for
directory/file/socket/etc. were failing in ``impossible'' ways.  I can
post more about that later, but if you've got an EFS partition handy,
just build with -DDEBUG_EFS and try to mount it.  You'll see the error
message in question.  On the bright side, module-loading works well.
- I have efslook code here as well, and was in the process of comparing
its indirect-extent algorithm to my own when I did the 2.1.131 merge of
my code, so maybe once I get past that inode-mode problem I can finish
it up?  Oh, to dream.

Hope that helps answer your question.

Mike

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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

>  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
>    Aiee message is important.

kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
---snip---
VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem)
Adv: done running setup()
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
page fault from irq handler: 0000
$0 : 00000000 88180000 0000062d 00000000
$4 : 00000000 1004fc00 00000000 00000000
$8 : 00000000 00000000 00000000 abf3f822
$12: 6f2e7072 8bf3d87c 8bf3d800 00000000
$16: 8bf4f000 8bf3b220 0000062d 8815238c
$20: abf4f040 bfb94000 00000000 bfbd4000
$24: 00000000 8bf85b58
$28: 88008000 88009d90 0000000e 880e3f38
epc   : 880e3e74
Status: 1004fc02
Cause : 00000008
Aiee, killing interrupt handler.
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing
---snip---

And then the machine stops dead.

>  - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.

Output from hinv:
---snip---
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 8-bit
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected
---snip---

Bye,
	LeX
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Victor Kuhns wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
>         Running Linux on a Indigo R4K.  Has anybody done it?  Our indigo just
> locks up when we try to boot off our machine running RH 5.0.  I have an
> Indy R4k...but have about 10 Indigo R4k's sitting around.  Would be nice
> to get the Indigo working:)
> 
> Thanks...
> 
>         -Victor


I second that motion!

I have a stack of R4400 Indigo's with XZ graphics floating
around and I'd love to put linux on them!  I even have an
R3000 Indigo with XZ graphics that's sitting idle. That's in
addition to a couple of R4000 Crimson boxes, but we won't
get into that now!

So, the relevant questions are - what's the pain level in
doing this?  What info do we need to lay hands on to get
this to happen?  And, as usual the most important question
is - how can I help make it happen?!?


Be well,

Michael

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Chad,

Can't make any gurantees but..... Do you have any SCSI cdrom drives laying
around? They don't all work, but some do. That would be the easiest fix, if
it works. If you need any help with the IRIX load, I can help you off line.
Besides, us Chads need to stick together.

Regards,
Chad

Chad Streck wrote:

> I tried this questions to some people, but I was suggested to post here.
>
> I would like do a clean install of IRIX on an Indy, but the Indy does
> not have a CDROM.  I have a linux box, running RedHat 5.1, with a CDROM
> located on the same network and was wondering if there is a way to mount
> the install CDs on the linux box so that the Indy can read it.  What
> I've read is that there is a read-only efs module floating around, but I
> can not find anywhere to download it.  The only other reference was
> efsmod 0.6, but it said that it is not usable on 2.1.x kernels of
> linux.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
> After a re-install of IRIX is completed, I could help by doing a linux
> load on it, but I'm a newbie to the SGI/IRIX world, and may need a
> little help.
>
> thankyou,
> chad

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I would certainly be interested in any modifications.  I guess I would
like to understand what the differences would be when the Indigo vs.
Indy boots up through prom to a Linux machine.  I have never been
through the source so maybe its something worth going through.  Any
comments or suggestions?


Thanxs.
	
-Victor

Michael W. Folsom wrote:
> 
> Victor Kuhns wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >         Running Linux on a Indigo R4K.  Has anybody done it?  Our indigo just
> > locks up when we try to boot off our machine running RH 5.0.  I have an
> > Indy R4k...but have about 10 Indigo R4k's sitting around.  Would be nice
> > to get the Indigo working:)
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >         -Victor
> 
> I second that motion!
> 
> I have a stack of R4400 Indigo's with XZ graphics floating
> around and I'd love to put linux on them!  I even have an
> R3000 Indigo with XZ graphics that's sitting idle. That's in
> addition to a couple of R4000 Crimson boxes, but we won't
> get into that now!
> 
> So, the relevant questions are - what's the pain level in
> doing this?  What info do we need to lay hands on to get
> this to happen?  And, as usual the most important question
> is - how can I help make it happen?!?
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Michael

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On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> 
> >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> >    Aiee message is important.
> 
> kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)

2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
use a newer kernel.

  Ralf

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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 03:48:21AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.

I tried that, but .131 doesn't support nfs-root. It keeps failing to
mount the root device.
Can I bake my own kernel for the Indy on my PC with the right compiler
?

Bye,
	LeX

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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 05:51:40AM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
> I tried that, but .131 doesn't support nfs-root. It keeps failing to
> mount the root device.

I've uploaded my current development kernel with support for bootp
and nfs-root compiled it:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990205.gz

BTW I want to make sure, that the kernel also boots headless (Challange S
simulation), can I just remove the newport from the Indy ?

> Can I bake my own kernel for the Indy on my PC with the right compiler ?

sure, but be prepared to do some hacking. There is no out of the box
cross compiling stuff.

Thomas.

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Does this mean that I should be able to use .131 kernel in conjunction with a
local e2fs filesystem with the contents of root-be-0.04.cpio installed on it?
And it should work?

Chad


ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> >
> > >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> > >    Aiee message is important.
> >
> > kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
>
> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.
>
>   Ralf

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I've gotten partway through having modularized the newport graphics.  This
is in hopes of:
- one day finishing it, so you can pleasantly load and unload graphics
  modules without regard to rebooting while debugging
- giving Mike a kick in the pants to help me out wiwth the hard stuff

I know there's some weirdness; I'd strongly suggest you not build it as a
module unless you're after fixing it.  It seems to OOPS partway into
loading userland stuff.  The report inidicates it is somewher ein tcp
code, which makes no sense.

Anyway. Here goes nothing.

- Alex

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I'm not quite sure what the problem here is, but when I rebuild my kernel
freshly, directly from what's in CVS, and I use the same kernel that
matches the module, I get:

[root@black linux]# /sbin/insmod hal2
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol __wake_up
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol unregister_chrdev
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol __get_free_pages
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol interruptible_sleep_on
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol kfree
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol loops_per_sec
/lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol printk

Am I insane?

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> I'm not quite sure what the problem here is, but when I rebuild my kernel
> freshly, directly from what's in CVS, and I use the same kernel that
> matches the module, I get:
> 
> [root@black linux]# /sbin/insmod hal2
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol __wake_up
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol unregister_chrdev
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol __get_free_pages
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol interruptible_sleep_on
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol kfree
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol loops_per_sec
> /lib/modules/2.1.131/misc/hal2.o: unresolved symbol printk

I'm full of shit, just ignore me an my complaints like this.

HAL now loads, and I get this:

SGI HAL2 Processor, Revision 4.1.0
hal2: checking registers
hal2: waiting isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:ffff idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:ffff idr2:0000
idr3:0000
hal2: wrote #1
hal2: waiting isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000
idr3:0000
hal2: wrote #2
hal2: waiting isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0123 idr1:0231 idr2:0000
idr3:0000
hal2: read #1
hal2: waiting isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0132 idr1:0231 idr2:0000
idr3:0000
hal2: read #2
hal2: waiting isr:0018 idr0:0231 idr1:0231 idr2:0000 idr3:0000
hal2: finished waiting at cnt:1000 isr:0018 idr0:0231 idr1:0231 idr2:0000
idr3:0000
hal2: read #3
hal2: card found

Also, I've apparantly fixed graphics to build as a module and not blow up
everything. There's still some unresolved symbols, we'll fix those.

Are there any other SGI/Linux folk going to LinuxWorld Expo?

- Alex


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> 
> 	Running Linux on a Indigo R4K.  Has anybody done it?  Our indigo just
> locks up when we try to boot off our machine running RH 5.0.  I have an
> Indy R4k...but have about 10 Indigo R4k's sitting around.  Would be nice
> to get the Indigo working:)

Victor, Michael,

Andrew R. Baker <andrewb@uab.edu> posted an announcement on January 21
about an project of porting Linux to Indigo2. You might want to get in
touch with them.

Andrew, if you have a contact URL or e-mail we could put on
www.linux.sgi.com, that would be nice.

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This is slightly off-topic, so I apologize in advance. As we are porting
LINUX to the Indigo2 to build a Beowulf cluster - we would like to use
100Mb ethernet cards instead of the standard 10Mb. In contacting SGI
about this, we were pointed to Qualix - a company which manufactures
these cards. But the price for this is rather steep - between $700 -
$800 per card! Does anyone on this list know where there might be a
cheaper source for these cards? I can live with 10Mb if I have to, but
it sure would be nice to have that 100Mb communication!

Again, my apologies if this is too off-topic for this group.
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On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:36:40PM +0100, Karel van Houten wrote:

> The '#ident' line makes the array initialisation incorrect. After removing
> this line, depmod compiles and works correctly.

Thanks for tracking this down.

> EGCS guru's, any hints?

Adding this to egcs-1.0.2/gcc/config/mips/linux.h at the bottom should
fix things:

/* Attach a special .ident directive to the end of the file to identify
   the version of GCC which compiled this code.  The format of the
   .ident string is patterned after the ones produced by native svr4
   C compilers.  */

#undef IDENT_ASM_OP
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  fprintf (FILE, "\t%s\t\"%s\"\n", IDENT_ASM_OP, NAME);

I'll test this and make a real patch later.  Until that -fno-ident is the
silver bullet to avoid such sick effects.

IRIX people: I think the same bug also hits IRIX, RISC/os and others,
it's probably as long in gcc / egcs as I can think back.  At least for some
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At 10:55 AM 2/7/99 -0600, you wrote:
>This is slightly off-topic, so I apologize in advance. As we are porting
>LINUX to the Indigo2 to build a Beowulf cluster - we would like to use
>100Mb ethernet cards instead of the standard 10Mb. In contacting SGI
>about this, we were pointed to Qualix - a company which manufactures
>these cards. But the price for this is rather steep - between $700 -
>$800 per card! Does anyone on this list know where there might be a
>cheaper source for these cards? I can live with 10Mb if I have to, but
>it sure would be nice to have that 100Mb communication!

A search for `100 ethernet eisa' in cnet gave several cards, 3 of them
around $200. Also, Qualix also lists one `for HP' at $495.


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Are there any objections to me moving drivers/sgi and merging them into
the 'correct' places?  The places in question are:

newport and colsole stuff: drivers/video
hal: drivers/sound
vino: drivers/char (which is there, actually)

Any objections?

- Alex

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Alright.  I've read a lot of code.  Here's my current take on it.

The goal is to get /dev/graphics to work.  It seems to me that we already
have an excellent start to the newport interface in newport_cons.c, and we
need that functionality for both newport graphics and newport console.

Are there objctions to me stripping out functionality from the very
excellent newport_cons.c and putting it into newport.c so I can use it
from graphics. as well?

- A

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> Are there objctions to me stripping out functionality from the very
> excellent newport_cons.c and putting it into newport.c so I can use it
> from graphics. as well?

I do not see how much you can use from newport_cons.c into a
/dev/graphics driver.

Miguel.

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Alex deVries wrote:
> 
> Are there any objections to me moving drivers/sgi and merging them into
> the 'correct' places?  The places in question are:
> 
> newport and colsole stuff: drivers/video
> hal: drivers/sound
> vino: drivers/char (which is there, actually)
> 
> Any objections?
> 
> - Alex

Sounds like the right thing to do to me.


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On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 07:06:22PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote:
> Are there any objections to me moving drivers/sgi and merging them into
> the 'correct' places?  The places in question are:
[...]
> Any objections?

not really, but I don't like it either. As long as the drivers in drivers/sgi
aren't usefull for other architectures, I would leave them, where they are.
There is enough different stuff sitting in drivers/char, which should
be sorted out and stuffed into better subdirectories.

I'm even not sure, whether my decision to put newport_con into drivers/video
was the right one. But at least drivers/video contains only driver dedicated 
to the same thing,which is to provide a console.

Thomas.

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On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 07:53:26PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote:
> Are there objctions to me stripping out functionality from the very
> excellent newport_cons.c and putting it into newport.c so I can use it
> from graphics. as well?

If you find something, which is worth sharing do it. But I have to agree
with Miguel, there isn't much usefull stuff for /dev/graphic in newport_con.c.

Thomas.

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Hi. I'm trying to unpack one of the glibc SRPMS from HardHat and am
getting the error

  % rpm -i glibc-2.0.6.src.rpm
  unpacking of archive failed on file glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz: 1: Success
  error: glibc-2.0.6-3.src.rpm cannot be installed
 
I'm trying to run rpm on an Intel box running Linux, and maybe that's
the problem. Is there someone out there who can un-rpm a MIPS glibc SRPM
and point me at the resulting tar.gz file?

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Joan Eslinger wrote:
> Hi. I'm trying to unpack one of the glibc SRPMS from HardHat and am
> getting the error
> 
>   % rpm -i glibc-2.0.6.src.rpm
>   unpacking of archive failed on file glibc-2.0.6.tar.gz: 1: Success
>   error: glibc-2.0.6-3.src.rpm cannot be installed

Oh my god! That file must be corrupt on the CD! What kind of irresponsible
distribution would ever do that? :)

You can find a more modern version in:
ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/linux/mips/test/glibc-2.0.6-6.src.rpm

- Alex

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Thanks, that one works.


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Just FYI,

To reflect the recent SGI official announcements, reduce
media confusion, and have a more logical organization
of the Linux on SGI web site, we've moved the 'mips'
stuff one level down and added a separate Intel
hierarchy (which is pretty empty right now but expected
to grow in the future).

If you find broken links etc. please let me know.

-- 
Peace, Ariel

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hi, 
I'm trying to compile mysql-3.22.16a-gamma but when I run script
./configure
I obtain:

*************************************
checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h... time.h
checking size of char... 0
configure: error: No size for char type.
A likely cause for this could be that there isn't any
static libraries installed. You can verify this by checking if you have
libm.a
in /lib, /usr/lib or some other standard place.  If this is the problem,
install the static libraries and try again.  If this isn't the problem,
examine config.log for possible errors.  If you want to report this, use
'scripts/mysqlbug' and include at least the last 20 rows from
config.log!
****************************************

of course libm.a is in /usr/lib :-(

and in config.log is:

**********************************************
configure:4187: checking for size_t
configure:4220: checking for st_rdev in struct stat
configure:4233: gcc -c -O6   -DDBUG_OFF  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:4254: checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be
included
configure:4268: gcc -c -O6   -DDBUG_OFF  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:4289: checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h
configure:4302: gcc -c -O6   -DDBUG_OFF  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:4325: checking size of char
configure:4344: gcc -o conftest -O6   -DDBUG_OFF   -rdynamic conftest.c
-lnsl -lm   -lcrypt  -lpthread 1>&5
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_accept'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_send'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_recvfrom'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_recvmsg'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_sendmsg'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_recv'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_sendto'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_connect'
configure: failed program was:
#line 4333 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
#include <stdio.h>
main()
{
  FILE *f=fopen("conftestval", "w");
  if (!f) exit(1);
  fprintf(f, "%d\n", sizeof(char));
  exit(0);
}
**************************************************

could you help me.
thanks
radim


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On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 09:06:11AM +0100, Radim Uchac wrote:

> I'm trying to compile mysql-3.22.16a-gamma but when I run script
> ./configure
> I obtain:

[...]

> configure:4344: gcc -o conftest -O6   -DDBUG_OFF   -rdynamic conftest.c
> -lnsl -lm   -lcrypt  -lpthread 1>&5
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_accept'
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_send'
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_recvfrom'
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> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_sendto'
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so: undefined reference to `__libc_connect'

This bug is fixed in more recent libc versions as you have installed.

  Ralf

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This is my first time working witha  net booting workstation and i'm
having a problem w/ the install kernel booting on a Challenge S.

I saw the mention in the mail archive and attempted to do as it instructs,
but alas, I have had no success.

the kernel says this on boot:
SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00
Keyboard timeout
Keyboard timeout
tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
<snip>
VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem).
Adv: done running setup()
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed


and freezes there.


now what i've done regarding the instructions on the web site are:
[root@outland dev]# pwd
/usr/src/sgi/installfs/dev
[root@outland dev]# ls -al tty* console*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:16 console -> ttyS0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:21 tty00 -> ttyS0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:21 tty01 -> ttyS1
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   1 May 11  1998 tty1
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   2 May 11  1998 tty2
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   3 May 11  1998 tty3
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   4 May 11  1998 tty4
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   5 May 11  1998 tty5
crw-r--r--   1 root     root       4,  64 Feb 10 16:16 ttyS0
crw-r--r--   1 root     root       4,  65 Feb 10 16:13 ttyS1


Am I doing something obviously wrong?

Chipper

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Chris Chiapusio wrote:
> Adv: done running setup()
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
> and freezes there.

Yup.  The thing is the machine's actually working well, but you don't have
the graphics console to show anything.  That kernel doesn't have the
ability to handle serial consoles. :(

I really need to rebuild a kernel for installation that includes R4400
support and serial console.  I just wish I could find a serial console
cable somewhere.

- Alex
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On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 04:58:25PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote:
> I really need to rebuild a kernel for installation that includes R4400
> support and serial console.  I just wish I could find a serial console
> cable somewhere.

I've already done that last week (announced on this mailing list) and that 
kernel boots fine on a Challenge S (tested on a real Challenge S, thanks to
Richard Hartensveld).

URL is:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990205.gz

Thomas.

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Hi,

the rewritten newport console has cursor problems with some newport revisions.
While it works on revision 3 NG1s, it has problems on revision 6 boards. On
these boards the cursor is nearly a character off to left from the position
it should be. Yesterday I remembered, that I had to tweak the X value for
the cursor, because it didn't work on my rev 3 board (you guessed it, the
cursor was off to the right). But the docs of the VC2 say, that the value 
I use isn't correct. So I guess, when I change it to the right value
the cursor will work perfectly on the rev 6 boards, but not on rev 3s.

To make a long story short, how do I get the revision of the newport ?

Thomas.

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Chris Chiapusio wrote:

> This is my first time working witha  net booting workstation and i'm
> having a problem w/ the install kernel booting on a Challenge S.
>
> I saw the mention in the mail archive and attempted to do as it instructs,
> but alas, I have had no success.
>
> the kernel says this on boot:
> SGI Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.00
> Keyboard timeout
> Keyboard timeout
> tty00 at 0xbfbd9838 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
> tty01 at 0xbfbd9830 (irq = 21) is a Zilog8530
> <snip>
> VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem).
> Adv: done running setup()
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
>
> and freezes there.
>
> now what i've done regarding the instructions on the web site are:
> [root@outland dev]# pwd
> /usr/src/sgi/installfs/dev
> [root@outland dev]# ls -al tty* console*
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:16 console -> ttyS0
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:21 tty00 -> ttyS0
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            5 Feb 10 16:21 tty01 -> ttyS1
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   1 May 11  1998 tty1
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   2 May 11  1998 tty2
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   3 May 11  1998 tty3
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   4 May 11  1998 tty4
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   5 May 11  1998 tty5
> crw-r--r--   1 root     root       4,  64 Feb 10 16:16 ttyS0
> crw-r--r--   1 root     root       4,  65 Feb 10 16:13 ttyS1
>

You should link /dev/ttyS1 to /dev/console and all will be fine.

Richard



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cc: Alex deVries <adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca>, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Challange S question..
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

>On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 04:58:25PM -0500, Alex deVries wrote:
>> I really need to rebuild a kernel for installation that includes R4400
>> support and serial console.  I just wish I could find a serial console
>> cable somewhere.
>
>I've already done that last week (announced on this mailing list) and that 
>kernel boots fine on a Challenge S (tested on a real Challenge S, thanks to
>Richard Hartensveld).
>
>URL is:
>
>ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990205.gz
>
>Thomas.
>

where can i find info on what the kernel is doing at each stage of the
boot process for a 'install' kernel like this so i can try to debug this
without buggin you guys for each problem?

in the mean time, this is with Thomas' kernel.. I got farther along

Red Hat install init version 1.1 starting
mounting /proc filesystem... done
opening /proc/cmdline... done
checking command line arguments... done
checking for NFS root filesystem...yes
mke2fs 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/ram: Operation not supported by device while setting up superblock
creating 100k of ramdisk space... done
mounting /tmp from ramdisk... failed.

I can't recover from this.


Chipper


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I have a DIN<->DB9 adaptor and a DB9 cable, but Something Isn't Right.

I have it set to 9600 N81, and I set console to d2, and I can see the
system menu when the machine boots.  But I can't type anything at it. 
This is making it quite difficult to do anything with my machine, so I'm
going to go get another cable.

What does this cable need to be?  Do I need a NULL-modem thing?  How can
I be 100% sure that a cable I purchase will let my Indy experience the
joys or serial consoling?

And, in the meantime, how can I force my Indy back to console=g?

Mike

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Hi,

On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 01:17:37PM -0500, Mike Shaver wrote:
> What does this cable need to be?  Do I need a NULL-modem thing?  How can
> I be 100% sure that a cable I purchase will let my Indy experience the
> joys or serial consoling?

take a lool at :

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/dynaweb_bin/hdwr/bin/nph-dynaweb.cgi/
       dynaweb/SGI_EndUser/Indy_OwnerGd/@Generic__BookTextView/9520

Matthias

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The irix man page serial(7) has pinouts for all of the SGI serial ports.
You can view this man page at:
	http://reality.sgi.com/cgi-bin/uman?p=serial&s=7


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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Mike Shaver wrote:
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> And, in the meantime, how can I force my Indy back to console=g?
> 

Can't you just telnet in?

<Alex runs away quickly>

- Alex



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Mike Shaver wrote:

> I have a DIN<->DB9 adaptor and a DB9 cable, but Something Isn't Right.
>



> What does this cable need to be?  Do I need a NULL-modem thing?  How can
> I be 100% sure that a cable I purchase will let my Indy experience the
> joys or serial consoling?
>

man serial under irix will give you the pinouts.

> And, in the meantime, how can I force my Indy back to console=g?

also under irix, you can use the program nvram and do:

nvram console g

or set the environment from within the bootprom.

Richard



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Mike Shaver wrote:
> 
> I have it set to 9600 N81, and I set console to d2, and I can see the
> system menu when the machine boots.  But I can't type anything at it.
> This is making it quite difficult to do anything with my machine, so I'm
> going to go get another cable.
> 

I have found some terminals (assuming that is what you are using) that
require either DSR or CTS before they will transmit anything even with
flow control off.

Cheers, Alistair

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Richard Hartensveld wrote:
> > And, in the meantime, how can I force my Indy back to console=g?
> 
> also under irix, you can use the program nvram and do:
> 
> nvram console g
> 
> or set the environment from within the bootprom.

No, you see, my problem is that I can't type at the boot prom (busted
cable) or boot the system (autoboot is off, which is usually a feature).

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On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 11:05:23AM -0500, Chris Chiapusio wrote:
> where can i find info on what the kernel is doing at each stage of the
> boot process for a 'install' kernel like this so i can try to debug this
> without buggin you guys for each problem?

the kernel has already booted. The HardHat kernel isn't able to work
with a serial console, and in mine is /dev/ram missing.

> mke2fs 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> /dev/ram: Operation not supported by device while setting up superblock
> creating 100k of ramdisk space... done
> mounting /tmp from ramdisk... failed.

ok, I didn't include the ramdisk driver in the kernel. Please try:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.gz

This kernel boots with the Rough Cut CD I have here.

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Ralf and all,

Now I'm in a jam. I can't use these instructions:

irix-indy #./mke2fs drive
irix-indy #./installer drive
  cjwsh> MAKEDEV
  cjwsh> cpio root-be-0.04.cpio
  [piles of cpio extraction information]
  cjwsh> exit
  [ a moderately lengthy pause, and possibly a bus error -- don't worry
    about it ]
 irix-indy #

to make the root filesystem on the indy because I can't make the device files
with proper major|minor numbers from the installer utility from IRIX. Since
nfsroot directive does not work on .131 and R4400 doesn't work on any other
kernels, I think I'm up against a brick wall. Anyone have any ideas.

Any chance of fixing nfsroot in the .131 kernel? I think that might get me
there.

Bootless,
Chad

ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> >
> > >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> > >    Aiee message is important.
> >
> > kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
>
> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.
>
>   Ralf

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On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 09:04:58PM -0600, Chad Carlin wrote:
> Any chance of fixing nfsroot in the .131 kernel? I think that might get me
> there.

looks like someone is eating my emails to this list.

Please try:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.gz

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What does the .config file look like these days for a successful compile?
Alex?  Thomas?

Which version of egcs is recommended?  Mine's still the one from hardhat
5.1.

Thanks,

Mike

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On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 12:07:07PM -0500, Mike Hill wrote:
> What does the .config file look like these days for a successful compile?
> Alex?  Thomas?

I've uploaded the .config, I've used for the vmlinux-indy-990212.gz. URL is:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.config

> Which version of egcs is recommended?  Mine's still the one from hardhat
> 5.1.

I'm still using a gcc-2.7.2.3 cross compiler.

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Hi.

I think my Indy hates me :)
I now got as far as the Indy mounting / via NFS, but it stops with
"Freeing unused kernel memory"...
And then nothing more happens. No net traffic (checked with karpski),
and pings don't get returned.
Could it be that the NFS-server is too slow ? It's a 486/66 with 20 MB
RAM and a SMC Ultra 10 Mb/s ethernet card.

Bye,
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Hi,

I'm about to commit Linux 2.2.1 into CVS.  I received email from people who
were attempting to upgrade their older 2.1.131 sources themselfes and ran
into a problem with 2.2.2-pre5.  Well, I fixed that problem in my source
which are going to CVS, so try these sources.

  Ralf

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Hi all,

since quite some time I've tried to find a memory corruption bug on my Indy.
I now suspect that the actual cause is a hardware problem and a recent
IRIX kernel core dump supports that theory.  Just to be on the safe side,
could people running Linux on Indys please run something like

  find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym

several times and compare the obtained output.  Do they differ in any
unexplainable way?

Thanks,

  Ralf

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ok, i fixed my problem with /dev/console ... but now it stops just a few
lines after that. this is printed to the screen:

Adv: done running setup()
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
page fault from irq handler: 0000
$0: blah blah blah
$4: blah blah blah
$8: blah blah blah
$12: blah blah blah
$16: blah blah blah
$20: blah blah blah
$24: blah blah blah
epc: 880e3e47
Status: 1004fc02
Cause: 00000008
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task: not syncing

then it's stuck... i could write down the "blah blah blah" numbers if
they would be helpfull. any ideas?

-E

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On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
>   find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym
> 
> several times and compare the obtained output.  Do they differ in any
> unexplainable way?

do you want, that everybody crash their Indys ? 

Everybody, who wants to run the find, should umount /proc before doing it.
Otherwise the kernel will crash, when the md5sum /proc/kcore happens.

Thomas.

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On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 04:04:09PM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
> then it's stuck... i could write down the "blah blah blah" numbers if
> they would be helpfull. any ideas?

Could give us a hinv of your Indy ?

Have you tried following kernel

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.gz

?

Thomas.

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Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this
define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge.

  Ralf

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On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 01:32:10AM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 12:27:46AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> >   find / -fstype ext2 -type f | xargs md5sym
> > 
> > several times and compare the obtained output.  Do they differ in any
> > unexplainable way?
> 
> do you want, that everybody crash their Indys ? 
> 
> Everybody, who wants to run the find, should umount /proc before doing it.
> Otherwise the kernel will crash, when the md5sum /proc/kcore happens.

That's what the -fstype ext2 is supposed to take care of :-)

  Ralf

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Ok, 2.2.1 is in.  As usual with a merge of that size I've probably broken
something, so test this and fix it.

  Ralf

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Ariel Faigon wrote:
> 
> What version of gcc are you using?
> 
>         gcc 2.8.x and later doesn't support o32 (i.e. need linking
>         with libs in /usr/lib32/...)
> 
>         gcc 2.7.x support only o32 (need linking with /usr/lib/...)
> 
> Also:
>         _never_ build on IRIX with '-lnsl'
> 
>         See:
>                 http://freeware.sgi.com/
>                 (Click on "Hints for building your own freeware")
> 
> All these are bugs in GNU autoconf as described in the above page.


hi
now is everything ok, but when I try to run mysqld I receive
"Can't create interrupt-thread (error 11, errno: -1)"
do you have some idea?
radim

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> Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this
> define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge.

And you'll continue to get collisions until you submit me a patch to add it
to the master set 8)


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I'm trying to compile glibc2.0.6 from SGI's ftp site
with egcs-1.0.2 as cross-compiler on Linux/Intel.

But I got following error messages on making shared lib stage.

Does any one suggest to me ?

Thank for your help.

M.Komiya

make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mkomiya/src/GNU/glibc-sgi-2.0.6/db'
mipsel-linux-gcc -g  -shared -o /home/mkomiya/src/GNU/glibc/mipsel-linux/db/libdb.so
-Wl,-dynamic-linker=/lib/mipsel-linuxld -B/home/mkomiya/src/GNU/glibc/mipsel-linux/csu/
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/home/mkomiya/src/GNU/glibc/mipsel-linux/libc.so -Wl,--no-whole-archive 
collect2: ld terminated with signal 6 [Aborted]

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uhm... what's a hinv?

the kernel listed below gives a similar problem. it doesn't blurt out a
bunch of error messages, but just like before, it says freeing unused
kernel memory, then hangs.

-E

> Could give us a hinv of your Indy ?
> 
> Have you tried following kernel
> 
> ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.gz

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On Feb 15, 19:10, Eric Melville wrote:
>uhm... what's a hinv?

Just log in (in IRIX) and enter 'hinv'.  Thomas was interested in the output.  
As an example, here's how it looks like on an Indy I just logged in to:

>hinv
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 132 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4610 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0
CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes
Main memory size: 32 Mbytes
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 8-bit
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected

- Tor


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hinv of my indy:

Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: version WD33C93B, revision D
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 24-bit
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected

any ideas as to why every kernel i've tried hangs when it tries to free
unused kernel memory? thanks...

-E

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On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:38:50AM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
> CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
[..]
> any ideas as to why every kernel i've tried hangs when it tries to free
> unused kernel memory? thanks...

looks like we have still a problem with R4400. Ralf ?

Thomas.

-- 
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Hi,

On 16-Feb-99 Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:38:50AM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
>> CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
> [..]
>> any ideas as to why every kernel i've tried hangs when it tries to free
>> unused kernel memory? thanks...
> 
> looks like we have still a problem with R4400. Ralf ?

Sorry for stepping in here, guys. This isn't strictly SGI related, but...

[root@localhost /root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu                     : MIPS
cpu model               : R4400SC V4.0
system type             : Digital DECstation 5000/2x0
BogoMIPS                : 59.90
byteorder               : little endian
unaligned accesses      : 0
wait instruction        : no
microsecond timers      : yes
extra interrupt vector  : no
hardware watchpoint     : yes
VCED exceptions         : 5244
VCEI exceptions         : 17100    

OTOH there may be significant differences between V4.0 and V6.0, but maybe
this helps.

---
Regards,
Harald

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On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 01:15:13AM +0900, mkomiya@crossnet.co.jp wrote:

> I'm trying to compile glibc2.0.6 from SGI's ftp site
> with egcs-1.0.2 as cross-compiler on Linux/Intel.
> 
> But I got following error messages on making shared lib stage.
> 
> Does any one suggest to me ?

The ld core dump bug in binutils 2.8.1 has been fixed in newer releases
of which we didn't yet publish crosscompiler binaries, mostly because those
of use who use crosscompilers only use it to build the kernel and kernel
build aren't affected.  Whatever, the solution is to rip the patches from
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  Ralf

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On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:25:55PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:38:50AM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
> > CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
> [..]
> > any ideas as to why every kernel i've tried hangs when it tries to free
> > unused kernel memory? thanks...
> 
> looks like we have still a problem with R4400. Ralf ?

Nope, no known problem, but we definately have a problem with the R4700.
Fixed.  Not that Indys would use a R4700 ...

I'll have to get V6.0 erratas, maybe that'll explain something.

  Ralf

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uhm... does this mean that i'm doing something wrong, or that the
software doesn't quite support my hardware?...

-E

> Nope, no known problem, but we definately have a problem with the R4700.
> Fixed.  Not that Indys would use a R4700 ...
> 
> I'll have to get V6.0 erratas, maybe that'll explain something.

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So, I've had an old Indy in my office, waiting for me to try installing
Linux on in my spare time, and today I finally got around to it. Lucky
for me I didn't try before today, because the kernel that finally worked
was the very latest, vmlinux-indy-990212.

After the one in the big hardhat tar.gz file didn't work (no R4400SC
support) I hit the mailing list archive, found the pointer to
vmlinux-2.1.131 (which didn't work because it didn't have NFS), noticed
also vmlinux-sc-indy-2.1.116 (also didn't work, probably also no NFS),
and tried a couple of others while going through the archive.
vmlinux-indy-990205 got a little farther, but complained it couldn't
make a device node in the ram disk or some such thing.

Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
now!

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drats... that's the kernel (er, one of the kernels) that hangs on
"freeing unused kernel memory" for me :(

-E

> So, I've had an old Indy in my office, waiting for me to try installing
> Linux on in my spare time, and today I finally got around to it. Lucky
> for me I didn't try before today, because the kernel that finally worked
> was the very latest, vmlinux-indy-990212.
> 
> After the one in the big hardhat tar.gz file didn't work (no R4400SC
> support) I hit the mailing list archive, found the pointer to
> vmlinux-2.1.131 (which didn't work because it didn't have NFS), noticed
> also vmlinux-sc-indy-2.1.116 (also didn't work, probably also no NFS),
> and tried a couple of others while going through the archive.
> vmlinux-indy-990205 got a little farther, but complained it couldn't
> make a device node in the ram disk or some such thing.
> 
> Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> now!

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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Joan Eslinger wrote:
> Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> now!

Okay, that's cool.  Could you give us an output from your irix's hinv?

- Alex

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Right, meant to do that the first time and forgot:

In IRIX,
% hinv
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 175 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
  Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 24-bit


In Linux,
% cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu                     : MIPS
cpu model               : R4000SC V6.0
system type             : SGI Indy
BogoMIPS                : 87.24
byteorder               : big endian
unaligned accesses      : 0
wait instruction        : no
microsecond timers      : no
extra interrupt vector  : no
hardware watchpoint     : yes
VCED exceptions         : 12424
VCEI exceptions         : 37454


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> > Due to a collission with Linus sources I had to change the value of this
> > define to 19 in include/linux/videodev.h for the merge.
> 
> And you'll continue to get collisions until you submit me a patch to add it
> to the master set 8)

Has Ralf already done this or should I do it?

- Ulf

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> Has Ralf already done this or should I do it?

You should I suspect


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wait a sec, this is almost identical to mine! R4400 revision 6.0 ... the
only difference i see is that mine was 200 mhz. what's up with this?
please, i'd love to get this thing booted so that i can start helping
with the porting efforts!

-E

> % hinv
> Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
> 1 175 MHZ IP22 Processor
> FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
> CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
> On-board serial ports: 2
> On-board bi-directional parallel port
> Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
> Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
> Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte on Processor 0
> Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
> Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam not connected
> Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
> Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
> Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
>   Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
>   Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
> Graphics board: Indy 24-bit

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On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 10:54:41PM -0800, Eric Melville wrote:
> wait a sec, this is almost identical to mine! R4400 revision 6.0 ... the
> only difference i see is that mine was 200 mhz. what's up with this?
> please, i'd love to get this thing booted so that i can start helping
> with the porting efforts!

I doubt, that your problem is clock rate related. What does your
NFS root look like. Are you using the HardHat root filesystem ?
What type of NFS box are you using ?

Thomas.

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it says ---

offset = 0
offset = 1
offset = 2
offset = 3
offset = 0
offset = 1
offset = 2

etc etc etc

???????

-E

> I had encountered a problem once with a bad R4400 CPU (only one)
> incorrectly loading halfword (16-bit) values from memory.  The
> following uuencoded gzipped mips2 binary mallocs lines of four
> halfwords, loads it with a certain bit pattern, and then in a loop
> checks all 0th halfwords, then all 1st, then 2nd, then 3rd.  (I had
> problems with the 3rd halfwords.)
> 
> Boot up IRIX and give it a try.  If it prints out anything other
> than "offset = 0", etc., then there is a problem.  (You could probably run
> it under miniroot as well.)  It was built on 6.2.

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the file system came straight from hardhat. it all appears to be normal,
and the indy appears to mount the nfs root just fine. the system
exporting nfs is an x86 linux box.

-E

> I doubt, that your problem is clock rate related. What does your
> NFS root look like. Are you using the HardHat root filesystem ?
> What type of NFS box are you using ?

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[forwarding to the SGI/Linux mailing list (linux@engr.sgi.com).

 Thanks, Ted.
 Is anyone in the Portland, Oregon area working on free software
 or Linux is interested, please contact Ted directly. The 4 BNC connector
 will require a conversion to 13W3 to connect to an Indy -- Ariel ]

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:monitor, CM2086A3SG?  This is separate, composite sync (i.e. 4 BNC
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I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
weren't making all this stuff up after all.

I have one problem though. Something is broken in modules. The networking
stuff is working incorrectly because of this. When I try to telnet in from
another host, the linux-indy panics. I can hand copy more verbose
information when I get home if this is not a common problem that everyone
else knows the answer to.

Almost there.
Chad


Alex deVries wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Joan Eslinger wrote:
> > Anyway, vmlinux-indy-990212 was the winner: it booted up into the
> > installer, I was able to do a complete install (ignoring swap, as web
> > page says), and it's up and running. I'm sending this out to let those
> > who've been having trouble with Indy/R4400SC know that it can be done
> > now!
>
> Okay, that's cool.  Could you give us an output from your irix's hinv?
>
> - Alex
>
> --
> Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet.
> I know exactly what I want in life.

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On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:43:34PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote:

> Does anyone have a running Linux system on the Deststation Tyne  R4600
> MIPS/133MHz machine?

No, since my Tyne died in late '94 we don't support this machine anymore.
It'll take a kernel hacker to bring it back to live.

  Ralf

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does your hinv say R4400 revision 6.0? if so, let me know which kernel
you've booted, because i havn't found any that don't hang during boot :(

-E

> I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> weren't making all this stuff up after all.

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Ralf,

On closer observation......

The message in the syslog is as follows:
kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-N, errno = 2

ls -l /sbin/modprobe
.....No such file or directory

Obviously, I need modprobe. I wonder how I didn't get modprobe?

Other info:
uname -r  = 2.1.131

cat /proc/cpuinfo

cpu: MIPS
cpu model: R4000SC V6.0
system type: SGI Indy
BogoMIPS: 99.94
........

Let me know if you want to see more.




ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:14:22PM -0600, Chad Carlin wrote:
>
> > I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> > weren't making all this stuff up after all.
> >
> > I have one problem though. Something is broken in modules. The networking
> > stuff is working incorrectly because of this. When I try to telnet in from
> > another host, the linux-indy panics. I can hand copy more verbose
> > information when I get home if this is not a common problem that everyone
> > else knows the answer to.
>
> I'd appreciate a more detailed bug report with all the messages you got.
> Which kernel binary exactly were you using?
>
>   Ralf

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Actually we are running into the same problem as we attempt to port Linux to the
Indigo2. Does anyone know where we can get the list of errata for the R4400
revision 6.0? That info is not currently available upon SGI's web pages... Any
pointers to this information (or a copy of same) would be greatly appreciated!

Mark

Eric Melville wrote:

> does your hinv say R4400 revision 6.0? if so, let me know which kernel
> you've booted, because i havn't found any that don't hang during boot :(
>
> -E
>
> > I got my 200MHz R4400 working too. Yes it actually boots. I guess you guys
> > weren't making all this stuff up after all.

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Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.

Problem:
- modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
don't know which one it goes with)
- Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
modutils.
- BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
optional-documentation during install.

Thanks for any help. I'm feel like I'm so close here.

Chad


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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
> Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
> thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
> I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.
> 
> Problem:
> - modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
> don't know which one it goes with)

Yup. modutils was broken at the time when Rough Cuts was put together.
Theres a newer package that does work on the ftp site.

> - Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
> network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
> modutils.

Why do you need modules to get your network going?

> - BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
> always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
> optional-documentation during install.

We know that. :)

- Alex


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Alex,

I get this error message in my syslog.
kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-N, errno = 2

/sbin/modprobe is not on my system. Why is it trying to execute? According to
rpm -qf /sbin/modprobe on my intel-Linux system, this executable gets installed
with modutils. I am jumping to a conclusion that this error message is telling
me why networking is not running properly. More specifically, I have tried
rlogin, telnet, ftp and nfs. All of these panic the system.

I grabbed
ftp://linus.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/hardhat/5.2/RPMS/mipseb/modutils-2.1.121-4.mipseb.rpm
and put that in with the other rpms in my installation nfs filesystem. It didn't
get picked up during my nfsroot install. I guess I need to look at  some sort of
installation script to find where it get's it's list of packages to install.

Heck, I might be barking up the wrong tree after all.

Thanks,
Chad



Alex deVries wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
> > Ok. Somebody shoot me. I went through and reinstalled linux on my Indy. I
> > thought that I screwed up and somehow did not get modutils-x.x.x-x because
> > I chose to install the wrong package set. I think I was wrong there too.
> >
> > Problem:
> > - modutils-x.x.x-x does not get installed by the base installer. (or I
> > don't know which one it goes with)
>
> Yup. modutils was broken at the time when Rough Cuts was put together.
> Theres a newer package that does work on the ftp site.
>
> > - Can't get this package over the network because if I try to use my
> > network interface, the system panics. It panics because I don't have
> > modutils.
>
> Why do you need modules to get your network going?
>
> > - BTW howto-french-5.1.1 seems to be corrupted in the distribution. My indy
> > always hangs when trying to install it. Hence, I have to deselect
> > optional-documentation during install.
>
> We know that. :)
>
> - Alex

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Ok, got another pile of email from people asking about the state of Linux
for the RC3030 and similar.  Here is slightly edited the bootup of Linux
on an embedded machine that is derived from Mips Computer Systems, Inc. (RIP)
own systems.  Any port to another system, will be easy, especially when
combining the DECstation and Baget R3000 effort's results with that.

Stay tuned, more soon,

  Ralf

Fast ethernet (FEN): 10 MBit/s, half duplex

Autoboot: Waiting to load bfs()/tftpboot/193.98.169.22/vmlinux (CTRL-C to abort)
loading

Fast ethernet (FEN): 10 MBit/s, half duplex
Obtaining /tftpboot/193.98.169.22/vmlinux from server linux
1002832+0+107396 entry: 0x800205dc
CPU revision is: 00002110
Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 32 bytes)
Primary data cache 16kb, linesize 32 bytes)
Linux version 2.2.1 (ralf@indy) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #496 Tue Feb 23 19:40:23 MET 1999
Console: ttyS0 (Zilog8530)
Calibrating delay loop... 99.94 BogoMIPS
Memory: 14960k/16380k available (844k kernel code, 444k data)
Checking for 'wait' instruction...  available.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
MIPS Zilog8530 serial driver version 1.32
tty00 at 0xbf022003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty01 at 0xbf020003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty02 at 0xbf026003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty03 at 0xbf024003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty04 at 0xbf032003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty05 at 0xbf030003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty06 at 0xbf036003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty07 at 0xbf034003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty08 at 0xbf03a003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty09 at 0xbf038003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty10 at 0xbf03e003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tty11 at 0xbf03c003 (irq = 8) is a Zilog8530
tulip.c:v0.89H 5/23/98 becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov
eth0: Digital DS21140 Tulip at 0x1f090000, EEPROM not present, 00 00 ad 00 e3 0a, IRQ 4.
eth0:  MII transceiver found at MDIO address 8, config 1000 status 786d.
Sending BOOTP requests.... OK
IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 193.98.169.11, my address is 193.98.169.22
Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 193.98.169.11
Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 193.98.169.11
VFS: Mounted root (NFS filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed
INIT: version 2.74 booting
Activating swap partitions
hostname: exterminata.mips-man.org
Checking root filesystems.

Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode.
Checking filesystems.

Mounting local filesystems.
Setting clock: Mon Feb 23 23:00:00 MET 1999
Enabling swap space.
Initializing random number generator...
INIT: Entering runlevel: 3
Mounting remote filesystems.
Starting system loggers: syslogd klogd 
Starting at daemon: atd 
Starting cron daemon: crond 
Starting portmapper: portmap 
Starting INET services: inetd 
Starting sshd: sshd 
Starting sendmail: sendmail 

Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
Kernel 2.2.1 on a mips

exterminata.mips-man.org login: 

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I've managed to grab myself a Challenge-S and have been playing with it and 
Linux.

I've gotten hardhat installed by grabbing the latest kernel image from the 
test directory.
Everything is running nice, but now that it's alive, I have a few questions.

First, has the swap problem been worked out of the latest kernels? (be hard to 
put the beast to work with no swap)

My console doesn't work, the log shows lots of getty HANGUP signals and then 
init stopping the process.

I'd like to compile a kernel that's configured for what I'm running(no hanging 
around waiting for Bootp to time out and such) Where can I get the latest 
kernel source? (base 2.2.1 blows up impressivly when trying to compile :)

Related to the above:  How do I get support for the second ethernet and all 
the other SCSI adapters?

Is there anyway I can dump the Irix drive?  As it is now, the 1 Gig drive is 
used to hold vmlinux, that's it. Is milo something that works?

I've managed to get Vnc working on the unit, so I can so virtual X stuff, very 
cool and fun. (wasn't a bad compile, just a few things to adjust)

I think that covers it for now, the Challenge is a fun toy, and under 
unixbench comes out close to my P120 Laptop.
(I can post the results if anyone's interested)

Greg



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On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 05:12:04AM -0500, gkm@total.net wrote:
> My console doesn't work, the log shows lots of getty HANGUP signals and then 
> init stopping the process.

add a a getty for /dev/ttyS0 to your /etc/inittab and remove the other 
gettys for tty0-5.

> around waiting for Bootp to time out and such) Where can I get the latest 
> kernel source? (base 2.2.1 blows up impressivly when trying to compile :)

You can get it from the CVS on ftp.linux.sgi.com. But there are some
minor patches missing, which I've used for the test kernels. I'll check the
stuff in next weekend and create a source tarball.

> Related to the above:  How do I get support for the second ethernet and all 
> the other SCSI adapters?

If the second ethernet is the same as the first one, it should just be a
matter of adding the necessary probing stuff. For the other SCSI adapter
your out of luck. I do have a datasheet for the wd33c95, but I doubt it's
possible to write a driver with just this information. The wd33c95 is a scsi 
script processor (for me it looks a little bit like the NCR53C7xx/8xx
chips). So we would need a script first, but I don't have any idea how
write one, because this information is missing in the datasheet.

> Is there anyway I can dump the Irix drive?  As it is now, the 1 Gig drive is 
> used to hold vmlinux, that's it. Is milo something that works?

milo doesn't work for the Indy. Ralf told me about another boot stuff, which
would allow us to get the kernel from an ext2 partition. Ralf any news ?

Thomas.

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On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 10:59:29PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:

> milo doesn't work for the Indy. Ralf told me about another boot stuff, which
> would allow us to get the kernel from an ext2 partition. Ralf any news ?

I've put this project on ice since I've got to get Linux running perfectly
_stable_ on some VME thing before I can work on something else again.  This
is now my ultimate hacking priority due to ``other opportunities''.

In any case, the code to read ext2 filesystems from ARC supported block
devices is mostly done; it'll need to be tested and debugged.  Wrapping
this code with something like an ELF load is going to be simple.

  Ralf

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After syncing my two source trees with CVS, I've exported a tarball
and uploaded it to

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/linux-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz

I've tested compilation for Indy and Olivetti M700 (MIPS Magnum).

I also uploaded a Indy kernel (map and .config file included):

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz

Thomas.

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Yesterday Ralf told me about a bug in the R4400 Rev 6.0 250 MHz devices.
As we can't say, whether the 200Mhz are real 250 MHz chip, it's worth
a try to activate the workaround for it, which is already present in
the kernel (but never gets enabled). People, which have problem with 
R4400 Indys, please try the kernel below.

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-r4400-990226.gz

Thomas.

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> After syncing my two source trees with CVS, I've exported a tarball
> and uploaded it to
> 
> ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/linux-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz
> 
I've tried compiling this on a base hardhat installation and here's the 
resuults so far.. (no, haven't gotten a kernel out of it yet)

First, there's no modutils.  I grabbed modutils2.1.121 and that compiled and 
installed fine.
Next, it almost immediately blew up on a lack of a current structure.
I found that /usr/include/asm/current.h had a conditional defining of the 
struct if C_language was defines, and something else if ASMing.  I just took 
out the conditional(don't know if it's the right thing, but compiling went 
alot further)
Lastly(and most messily) it got to arch mips and tried some ASMing.
Here's a short piece of that:
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r4600 -mips2 -pipe -c indyIRQ.S -o indyIRQ.o
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h: Assembler messages:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: unrecognized opcode `extern'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: Bad expression
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: Missing ')' assumed
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `i'.
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: unrecognized opcode `__asm__'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: unrecognized opcode `__res'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `}'.
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: unrecognized opcode `res'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/mipsregs.h:177: Error: unrecognized opcode `res'

How has everyone else faired in the compiling game?  :)

Greg



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drats! it looks exactly the same (except it says it's linux version
2.2.1 ;) ... it hangs on:

"Freeing unused kernel memory: 52k freed"

weird.

-E

> Yesterday Ralf told me about a bug in the R4400 Rev 6.0 250 MHz devices.
> As we can't say, whether the 200Mhz are real 250 MHz chip, it's worth
> a try to activate the workaround for it, which is already present in
> the kernel (but never gets enabled). People, which have problem with
> R4400 Indys, please try the kernel below.

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On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:30:50PM -0500, gkm@total.net wrote:
> How has everyone else faired in the compiling game?  :)

it worked out of the box, but not on an out of the box HardHat:-(

HardHat has still gcc-2.7.2 as the default C compiler and this
compiler has different defines. So either use egcs or update your
gcc specs file (sorry, I couldn't find the patch right now, anyone ?)

Thomas.

-- 
   This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-|
It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^)
                                        [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel]

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I have an Indy R5000, so says the case anyway.  I was able to setup
bootp/tftp/nfs.  I can mount the nfs dir from within IRIX.  I tried
booting from the nfs partition using bootp, and during the boot
message it seems to identify the machine and hardware ok.  Then I get
the "unable to open initial console" message( read: hang ).

I'm sure you have seen this before.  Have I buggered the unpacking
of HardHat?

TIA

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>the "unable to open initial console" message( read: hang ).

There are a few things that this can be, but the most obvious is to
check that the dev/ directory in the HardHat distribution looks like:

crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:39 console
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root       1,   3 Sep 14 19:43 null
brw-r-----   1 root     disk       1,   1 Sep 14 19:43 ram
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:44 systty
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   1 Sep 14 19:44 tty1
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   2 Sep 14 19:44 tty2
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   3 Sep 14 19:44 tty3
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   4 Sep 14 19:44 tty4
crw-------   1 root     root       4,   5 Sep 14 19:44 tty5

If not, then nuke the devices and remake them with mknod, chown, chmod.
Some tar programs (IRIX's in particular) screws these up. You can
re-make these devices under Linux/x86 or IRIX - both work fine. If
re-making from under IRIX then 'disk' gid = 6, and 'root' gid = 0 = sys
under IRIX.

Other possibilities are that you're running on hardware not well
supported by HardHat (new kernels are available) or the nfsroot
procedure isn't working well enough. I'm sure other people will have
other failure modes to tell you as well :)

cheers,
robin
+
He'd found that even the people whose job of work was, so to speak, the
Universe, didn't really believe in it and were actually quite proud of not
knowing what it really was or even if it could theoretically exist.
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Thanks, the devs were in fact screwed up.  I will try again when I get
into work today.

Thanks for the quick reply :)

On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Robin Humble wrote:

> 
> >the "unable to open initial console" message( read: hang ).
> 
> There are a few things that this can be, but the most obvious is to
> check that the dev/ directory in the HardHat distribution looks like:
> 
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:39 console
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root       1,   3 Sep 14 19:43 null
> brw-r-----   1 root     disk       1,   1 Sep 14 19:43 ram
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:44 systty
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   1 Sep 14 19:44 tty1
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   2 Sep 14 19:44 tty2
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   3 Sep 14 19:44 tty3
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   4 Sep 14 19:44 tty4
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   5 Sep 14 19:44 tty5
> 
> If not, then nuke the devices and remake them with mknod, chown, chmod.
> Some tar programs (IRIX's in particular) screws these up. You can
> re-make these devices under Linux/x86 or IRIX - both work fine. If
> re-making from under IRIX then 'disk' gid = 6, and 'root' gid = 0 = sys
> under IRIX.
> 
> Other possibilities are that you're running on hardware not well
> supported by HardHat (new kernels are available) or the nfsroot
> procedure isn't working well enough. I'm sure other people will have
> other failure modes to tell you as well :)
> 
> cheers,
> robin
> +
> He'd found that even the people whose job of work was, so to speak, the
> Universe, didn't really believe in it and were actually quite proud of not
> knowing what it really was or even if it could theoretically exist.
>      Robin Humble     /      http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~rjh/
> 


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OK, after fixing the devs, I no longer get the error message.
However, after loading init and ld.so.2.0.6 from the server, the Indy
hangs.

something simple must be missing... ;)

On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Robin Humble wrote:

> 
> >the "unable to open initial console" message( read: hang ).
> 
> There are a few things that this can be, but the most obvious is to
> check that the dev/ directory in the HardHat distribution looks like:
> 
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:39 console
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root       1,   3 Sep 14 19:43 null
> brw-r-----   1 root     disk       1,   1 Sep 14 19:43 ram
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   0 Sep 14 19:44 systty
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   1 Sep 14 19:44 tty1
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   2 Sep 14 19:44 tty2
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   3 Sep 14 19:44 tty3
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   4 Sep 14 19:44 tty4
> crw-------   1 root     root       4,   5 Sep 14 19:44 tty5
> 
> If not, then nuke the devices and remake them with mknod, chown, chmod.
> Some tar programs (IRIX's in particular) screws these up. You can
> re-make these devices under Linux/x86 or IRIX - both work fine. If
> re-making from under IRIX then 'disk' gid = 6, and 'root' gid = 0 = sys
> under IRIX.
> 
> Other possibilities are that you're running on hardware not well
> supported by HardHat (new kernels are available) or the nfsroot
> procedure isn't working well enough. I'm sure other people will have
> other failure modes to tell you as well :)
> 
> cheers,
> robin
> +
> He'd found that even the people whose job of work was, so to speak, the
> Universe, didn't really believe in it and were actually quite proud of not
> knowing what it really was or even if it could theoretically exist.
>      Robin Humble     /      http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~rjh/
> 


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On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 11:22:16PM -0600, Russell E Glaue wrote:

> Okay, I know that the R4600 (Deskstation Tyne) is supported in the Linux
> Kernel.  I saw it in there while browsing around the MIPS ported code of
> the latest Linux kernel.  I also know that Linux was once successfully
> compiled for this processor in the 2.0.2x series.
> 
> Does anyone know if I will be able to successfully cross-compile a working
> Linux kernel for the MIPS R4600 processor with the latest Linux source
> code? I understand that support is not kept up, but is the existing code
> still in a compilable state?

The R4600 is supported, just not the Tyne machine which the processor is
in ...

Hackers wanted.

  Ralf

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In message <19990227175300.B539@uni-koblenz.de> ralf@uni-koblenz.de writes:
: The R4600 is supported, just not the Tyne machine which the processor is
: in ...
: 
: Hackers wanted.

If someone were to ship me a Tyne, I'd fix the support for it in
Linux.  And fix the rPC44 while I was at it. :-)

Warner

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On Feb 27, 12:01pm, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> Subject: Re: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded
> On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:30:50PM -0500, gkm@total.net wrote:
> > How has everyone else faired in the compiling game?  :)
>
> it worked out of the box, but not on an out of the box HardHat:-(
>

Works here out of the box using hardhat egcs.

Still have the aforementioned video quirks.  Any further developments regarding
Newport revisions?

Mike

