From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 1 15:24:04 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA44141 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:24:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA35330 for linux-list; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:22:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA52047 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:22:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA09236 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:22:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:22:38 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10Hc19-002PKIC; Tue, 2 Mar 99 00:22 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02910; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:16:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19990302001614.B2811@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:16:14 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: mdhill@genxl.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded References: <19990227001617.A4022@alpha.franken.de> <199902270430.XAA21725@wacky.total.net> <19990227120144.A601@alpha.franken.de> <9902281716.ZM1239@mdhill.genxl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <9902281716.ZM1239@mdhill.genxl.com>; from Michael Hill on Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:16:59PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 696 Lines: 19 On Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:16:59PM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > Still have the aforementioned video quirks. Any further developments > regarding Newport revisions? so far nobody could tell me, how I can read the newport revision. Without this information it's impossible to implement a runtime workaround for the cursor problem (and mabye others). So once again: Is there anybody on this list, who knows and is willing to tell me, how I get the newport revision ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 2 10:53:08 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA56325 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:53:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA86936 for linux-list; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:52:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from odin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-odin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA92871 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:52:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (chad@dallas.sgi.com) Received: from dallas.sgi.com by odin.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) for id KAA29599; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:52:05 -0800 Message-ID: <36DC3354.42E4BAE5@dallas.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 12:52:04 -0600 From: Chad Carlin Reply-To: chad@sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux Subject: Build a new kernel? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 984 Lines: 28 Could someone point me to some documentation on the proceedure for building a new linux kernel? I need info like; prerequisite rpms, Guidance on what options to choose in menuconfig, How to implement the new kernel, Do I need to modify any config files. The documentation that I have found for intel-linux has so far has been similar but not quite the same. I haven't really looked for the "how to build a kernel for MIPS" docs yet. I tried to build one on my intel-linux box for practice. It didn't go well. Chad -- ----------------------------------------------------- Chad Carlin Special Systems Silicon Graphics Inc. 972.205.5911 Pager 888.754.1597 VMail 800.414.7994 X5344 chad@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/chad ----------------------------------------------------- "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 2 20:21:57 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA17734 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:21:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA15194 for linux-list; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:21:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA32191 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:21:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (milos@insync.net) Received: from insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA00116 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:21:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (milos@insync.net) Received: from insync.net (miloshm@209-113-28-35.insync.net [209.113.28.35]) by insync.net (8.9.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA02381; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:21:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36DCB8B0.9BA28845@insync.net> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:21:04 +0000 From: Miles Lott Reply-To: milos@insync.net Organization: KPRC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.2-ac5 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ex-MX MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@sgi.com CC: linux Subject: Re: Build a new kernel? References: <36DC3354.42E4BAE5@dallas.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2480 Lines: 57 I can only speak to Intel, as I have yet to get Hardhat booted. Generally, I start with the kernel source rather than an rpm. Of course, upon install of a new dist, you start with the dist's packaged version. But I would replace that asap, tailoring it based upon what you need. RedHat separates the kernel into at least two rpms, though kernel-headers.rpm is most likely a subset of the kernel-src.rpm, consisting of only include files used for compiling other sources. Get the 'real' kernel source. Unpack it in /usr/src as linux/. cd /usr/include; rm asm linux; ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux; ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm; cd /usr/src/linux; read ;) Menuconfig has quite a bit of online help, plus the Documentation tree will help you become familiar with the available options. make xconfig is nice as well, especially for browsing and immediate recognition of dependencies that some choices enforce. Other than that, the Linux Kernel HOWTO, which I guess you have read. Note that the completed configuration ends up in .config in the top level of the source tree after make config, make menuconfig, or make xconfig. I like to keep a copy of this outside the tree so that I can maintain some consistency from kernel to kernel, rather than start over with each new src tree. After running make (menu/x/)config, always do make dep;make clean; I then do make zImage;make modules;make modules_install Enjoy! Chad Carlin wrote: > > Could someone point me to some documentation on the proceedure > for building a new linux kernel? > > I need info like; prerequisite rpms, Guidance on what options to > choose in menuconfig, How to implement the new kernel, Do I > need to modify any config files. > > The documentation that I have found for intel-linux has so far > has been similar but not quite the same. I haven't really looked > for the "how to build a kernel for MIPS" docs yet. > > I tried to build one on my intel-linux box for practice. It > didn't go well. > > Chad > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Chad Carlin Special Systems > Silicon Graphics Inc. 972.205.5911 > Pager 888.754.1597 VMail 800.414.7994 X5344 > chad@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/chad > ----------------------------------------------------- > "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 3 09:40:59 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA50123 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA46494 for linux-list; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA69236; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:39:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: from ruvild.bun.falkenberg.se ([194.236.80.7]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA01816; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:39:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: by bun.falkenberg.se via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:47:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:47:01 +0100 From: Ulf Carlsson To: bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy problems Message-ID: <19990303194701.A26201@ruvild.bun.falkenberg.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 651 Lines: 15 Hi Nancy, I'm very happy that I found 2 big boxes inside my door when I arrived at home today. I found that us power cords were included so I replaced them with standard europe ones. Then I put everything together, turned the display on, then the box. But to my desperation I only saw a white screen with some horizontal (well, not really horizontal they're heading sligtly up to the right)light stripes with about 2-3 cm space in between. Yes, I've connected the cable from the cute little blue box to the display.. Anyway, the box itself seems to boot correctly (the harddrive buzzes) but it's still not any fun when I can't see anything.. - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 3 12:41:39 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA56161 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:41:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA13652 for linux-list; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:40:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA24918 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:40:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA09311 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903032040.MAA09311@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Some New? Indy problems (fwd) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:40:26 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1925 Lines: 59 [Forwarding a bounce, apparently not sent from the subscription address. -- Ariel] Forwarded message: :Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:58:30 -0800 :Message-Id: <199903031858.KAA13965@lil.brown-dog.org> :X-Authentication-Warning: lil.brown-dog.org: jcoffin set sender to jcoffin@lil.brown-dog.org using -f :To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com :Subject: Some New? Indy problems : :Hi all, : :I've been periodically trying to get Linux up on an Indy r5000 with :varying degrees of success. I machine has a dead video card, :confirmed by the PROM's hardware verification routines, but I've been :working via a serial connection which is OK for now. In the latest :round of tinkering, I used Thomas Bogendoerfer's binary kernel (Linux :version 2.1.131 (tsbogend@james.franken.de) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #262 :Fr9) and got the following. I hope this helps you all in you quest. : : :--jeff : :... :VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem). :Freeing prom memory: 2608k freed :Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed :Got dbe at 0fb7041c. :$0 : 00000000 0fb83b50 2aaab01c 0000000a :$4 : 2aaab000 00000000 00000154 00000000 :$8 : 2aaab000 00000010 00000000 00000010 :$12: 7ffffdb0 7ffffdb0 0fb653bc 00000003 :$16: 2aaab000 0fb62b30 0fb62b30 00000000 :$20: 00000000 00000000 00000006 0fb65bb8 :$24: 00000000 0fb703c0 :$28: 0fb8b6d0 7ffffc10 7ffffc40 0fb69e2c :epc : 0fb7041c :Status: 0000fc13 :Cause : 0000401c : :and HINV: : :>> hinv : System: IP22 : Processor: 180 Mhz R5000, with FPU : Primary I-cache size: 32 Kbytes : Primary D-cache size: 32 Kbytes : Secondary cache size: 512 Kbytes : Memory size: 64 Mbytes : Graphics: GR3-XZ : SCSI Disk: scsi(0)disk(2) : SCSI Disk: scsi(0)disk(3) : Audio: Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 :>> : -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 3 13:06:18 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA58444 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:06:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA52910 for linux-list; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:05:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18732 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (bpayne@propeller.com) Received: from dino.propeller.com (www.propeller.com [204.216.217.130]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA07000 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:05:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (bpayne@propeller.com) Received: by dino-192.propeller.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <15FVJLAP>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:04:56 -0800 Message-ID: <51C3D69B3643D21194AD00400551982C5103@dino-192.propeller.com> From: Ben Payne To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Debuggers? Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:04:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 539 Lines: 16 I recently installed Linux on an Indy and was looking for GDB. It's not part of the hardhat install, and the source doesn't support the mips-linux host. I need to develop an application on the mips-linux architecture is there any debuggers available? I saw a mention of a patch to GDB in the list archive. Is this solution stable? And where can I get the latest GDB patch? thanks in advance ---------------------------------------- Ben Payne PropHead Development, Inc. (760) 757-0900 x120 ---------------------------------------- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 4 12:19:21 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA12737 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:19:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA10087 for linux-list; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:17:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA79490 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:16:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nico@ramapo.edu) Received: from orion.ramapo.edu (orion.ramapo.edu [192.107.108.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA07431 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:16:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nico@ramapo.edu) Received: from localhost by orion.ramapo.edu (PMDF V5.2-31 #32713) with ESMTP id <0F83009016ZDC5@orion.ramapo.edu> for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:16:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:16:20 -0500 (EST) From: Nico Halpern Subject: booting linux on a Challenge S To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1678 Lines: 47 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- hello all, and pardon me if this is a FAQ. Scenario: I managed to install the rh-5.1 tarball on a Challenge S. Since I have a single disk drive on the machine, I installed linux on a '/' filesystem that takes up most of the disk (sda1). I no longer have IRIX on the machine, and I would like to boot linux. I have tried the following: boot -f vmlinux (error message: file not found... how can I tell the prom to boot linux??) boot bootp():/vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 init=/bin/sh .. Machine loads kernel, and stops after the 'Warning: cannot open an initial console'. Theoretically I _could_ fix this problem by creating the correct entry with mknod. The catch 22 is that I cannot access the hard drive because I have no console.. any suggestions? oh-- I almost forget. This machine is completely headless, if that makes a diference. Also, what it the status of the sound drivers? I have not seen any docs on this... maybe I am just looking in all the wrong places. TIA, -Nico. - -- Nico Halpern, Your Favorite daemon. UNIX System Administrator Ramapo College of New Jersey +1.201.684.6821 - -- On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Antoine de Saint-Exupery -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNt7qGFRPq2j8zDBJAQE4pAP6AjC+PWrTFpxrgFjeSZVjzSw9W7V5A7Wh C+qq+p5M9SN45DCricwMWvm1JOlAjN8caNh9xx0LLlhfhgSqs2cKlWASc9gL1hjY YqAniyRYQ20b+i2t1FtdLMrhVC5k0QyeC9yceothUISqpA0z8sKjA5jC1ZrShWGI Q8lBU4s8PDw= =N0Fq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 4 15:54:15 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA23750 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:54:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA10608 for linux-list; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:53:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA07055 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:53:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard@infopact.nl) Received: from perron-null.patser.net (9dyn72.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.72]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA03656 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:53:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard@infopact.nl) Received: from infopact.nl (indigo2.patser.net [192.168.6.40]) by perron-null.patser.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA14420; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:38:52 +0100 Message-ID: <36DF1E7A.EC9A7F76@infopact.nl> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:59:55 +0100 From: Richard Hartensveld X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nico Halpern CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: booting linux on a Challenge S References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1416 Lines: 35 Nico Halpern wrote: > Scenario: > I managed to install the rh-5.1 tarball on a Challenge S. Since I have > a single disk drive on the machine, I installed linux on a '/' filesystem that > takes up most of the disk (sda1). I no longer have IRIX on the machine, and I > would like to boot linux. I have tried the following: > boot -f vmlinux (error message: file not found... how can I tell the prom to > boot linux??) You cannot, because you don't have irix anymore you have no place to store the kernel locally. At least noton a partition that can be read from the prom. > > > boot bootp():/vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 init=/bin/sh .. Machine loads kernel, and > stops after the 'Warning: cannot open an initial console'. Theoretically I > _could_ fix this problem by creating the correct entry with mknod. The catch > 22 is that I cannot access the hard drive because I have no console.. any > suggestions? > You can also edit /etc/securetty in the setup-1.9.1-2.noarch.rpm from the hardhat distribution and add some secure tty's (ttyp1, ttyp2, etc.) so you can telnet in to your machine as root. > oh-- I almost forget. This machine is completely headless, if that makes a > diference. Also, what it the status of the sound drivers? I have not seen any > docs on this... maybe I am just looking in all the wrong places. Euhm, sound drivers on a machine that does not have a sound processor? :) Richard From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 5 15:05:43 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA80626 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:05:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA38217 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:04:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA18237 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:03:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1] (may be forged)) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA04201 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-3.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.3]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00669 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:58:33 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05467; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:11:39 +0100 Message-ID: <19990305101139.H2111@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:11:39 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Ben Payne , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Debuggers? References: <51C3D69B3643D21194AD00400551982C5103@dino-192.propeller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <51C3D69B3643D21194AD00400551982C5103@dino-192.propeller.com>; from Ben Payne on Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 562 Lines: 13 On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0800, Ben Payne wrote: > I recently installed Linux on an Indy and was looking for GDB. It's not > part of the hardhat install, and the source doesn't support the > mips-linux host. I need to develop an application on the mips-linux > architecture is there any debuggers available? I saw a mention of a > patch to GDB in the list archive. Is this solution stable? And where > can I get the latest GDB patch? The GDB source is available via anonymous CVS from linus.linux.sgi.com. It's not perfectly stable yet. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 5 15:47:00 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA81136 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:47:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA45665 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:46:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA04353 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:45:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA15035 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:45:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:45:44 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10J4Hd-002OpiC; Sat, 6 Mar 99 00:45 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02366; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:16:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19990306001607.B1601@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:16:07 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Ben Payne , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Debuggers? References: <51C3D69B3643D21194AD00400551982C5103@dino-192.propeller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <51C3D69B3643D21194AD00400551982C5103@dino-192.propeller.com>; from Ben Payne on Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1034 Lines: 27 On Wed, Mar 03, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0800, Ben Payne wrote: > I recently installed Linux on an Indy and was looking for GDB. It's not > part of the hardhat install, and the source doesn't support the > mips-linux host. I need to develop an application on the mips-linux > architecture is there any debuggers available? just use gdb:-) > I saw a mention of a patch to GDB in the list archive. Is this solution > stable? And where can I get the latest GDB patch? I've build a SRPM for gdb, when I've compiled most of the RedHat 5.1 RPMS for little endian Linux/MIPS. You can find it on ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/mips/mipsel-linux/SRPMS/gdb-4.17-3.src.rpm There is also a CVS repository of gdb von ftp.linux.sgi.com. For me it's not always as stable as it should be. So there is still work to do. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 5 16:37:04 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA84045 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:37:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA34969 for linux-list; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:35:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from relay1.corp.sgi.com (spindle.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.13] (may be forged)) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA50774 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:35:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (chad@dallas.sgi.com) Received: from dallas.sgi.com (roctane.dallas.sgi.com [169.238.83.62]) by relay1.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA31718; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:35:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36E0785D.1758693B@dallas.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:35:41 -0600 From: Chad Carlin Reply-To: chad@sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Bogendoerfer CC: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded References: <19990227001617.A4022@alpha.franken.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1309 Lines: 41 Thomas, Anyone else have trouble with these on an R4400? I tried a couple times. Both stopped the boot process a the "freeing unused memory" part. Sorry there was no other info. Regards, Chad Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > After syncing my two source trees with CVS, I've exported a tarball > and uploaded it to > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/linux-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz > > I've tested compilation for Indy and Olivetti M700 (MIPS Magnum). > > I also uploaded a Indy kernel (map and .config file included): > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz > > Thomas. > > -- > This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| > It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) > [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] -- ----------------------------------------------------- Chad Carlin Special Systems Silicon Graphics Inc. 972.205.5911 Pager 888.754.1597 VMail 800.414.7994 X5344 chad@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/chad ----------------------------------------------------- "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 6 15:12:01 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA45498 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:12:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA10328 for linux-list; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:11:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA96340 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:11:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA01210 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:11:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-28.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.28]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07899 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:10:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA13586; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:06:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19990307000640.B10228@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:06:40 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Chad Carlin , Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded References: <19990227001617.A4022@alpha.franken.de> <36E0785D.1758693B@dallas.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <36E0785D.1758693B@dallas.sgi.com>; from Chad Carlin on Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 06:35:41PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 471 Lines: 12 On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 06:35:41PM -0600, Chad Carlin wrote: > Anyone else have trouble with these on an R4400? I tried a couple times. Both > stopped the boot process a the "freeing unused memory" part. Sorry there was no It seems one of the ``high priests'' will need get access to one of these machine in order to debug the problem. Did you try the usual hot keys to get a register dump? If that still works, what is the epc value, is the machine looping? Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 8 04:48:01 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA15742 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:48:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA37431 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:47:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA55575 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:47:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA09338 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:47:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id NAA26671 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:46:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01176; Mon, 8 Mar 99 13:47:03 +0100 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA02741; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:47:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:47:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject":Illegal.f_magic.number.while.install-procedure@eede.ericsson.se X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1525 Lines: 46 Hi, on the last weekend I've started to install linux on my good ol' Indy (System: IP22; Processor: 100MHz R4000, with FPU). After setting up bootp/tftp and creating a file-system I was finally ready to boot linux over the network. After loading the kernel the system is giving me these messages: ============================================================ >> boot bootp()/vmlinux 73264+592+11520+331680+27848d+3628+5792 entry: 0x8df9a960 Setting $netaddres to 192.168.1.5 (from server deadmoon) Obtaining /vmlinux from server deadmoon Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. Exception: ......... ============================================================ Then a message that is rebooting the system appears at the bottom of the screen. On server deadmoon I can see: ============================================================ bootp():found 192.168.1.5(sgi) bootp():bootfile=/export/mipseb/vmlinux bootp():vendor magic field is 0.0.0.0 bootp():sending reply.. ============================================================ I have tried this with the vmlinuv that comes with hardhat, and with several newer (prebuild) kernels (2.1.131, 990212). The result was always the same. I guess that this has something todo with magic numbers ? Is there anyone out there who has seen this before? (System Configuration: Server running kernel 2.2.2 - connected with internal net via 10Mbit-Hub). Any hints welcome, Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 8 05:17:13 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA16947 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:17:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA68807 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:16:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA85187 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:16:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA08750 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:16:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id OAA15907 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:16:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01917; Mon, 8 Mar 99 14:16:15 +0100 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03015; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:16:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:16:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199903081316.OAA03015@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 123 Lines: 7 Oops, bad day today - I'm too stupid to create a mail with an appropriate header - going for more coffee ;-) Sorry, Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 8 08:58:54 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA08937 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:58:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA96759 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:57:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA44743 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:57:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from gamera.colorado.edu ([128.138.189.223]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA03281 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:57:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from localhost by gamera.colorado.edu via sendmail with smtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:57:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:57:29 -0700 (MST) From: Jake Griesbach Reply-To: Jake Griesbach To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Linux/Mips installation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 49 Hi, I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this has already been addressed earlier... I'm trying to install SGI/Linux onto an Indy workstation using the instructions found at http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/manhattan. I've got the machine so that it net boots the kernel and starts the installation program. However, after I select the hard drive I want to install to, I get the following error: Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 1000fc00 00001000 ffffffe0 $4 : 00000020 00000000 1000fc00 1000fc00 $8 : 00000010 881095c0 00000001 00000068 $12: 00000000 8df81740 8df80000 88139e80 $16: 00000000 00001000 adf49000 8df47800 $20: 8df50e70 bfbc0003 00000000 bfb90000 $24: 00000001 2abe2f30 $28: 8de6a000 8de6bb98 8df50e70 880fa8c4 epc : 88020f80 Status: 1000fc02 Cause : 00000008 install exited abnormally -- received signal 11 sending termination signals...done sending kill signals...done umounting filesystems... /proc umount failed /tmp you may safely reboot your system This happens directly after I select my target hard drive from the hard drive list. It doesn't seem to matter whether or not I try to partition it with the Edit option on the menu. Do you have any ideas as to what may be wrong? I'm using the hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz file from ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/linux/mips/RedHat. Thanks!! Jake Griesbach University of Colorado From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 8 15:10:55 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA73087 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:10:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA21032 for linux-list; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA74467 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:08:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA01635 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:08:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:08:13 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10K983-002OyjC; Tue, 9 Mar 99 00:08 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02855; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:02:34 +0100 Message-ID: <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:02:34 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure References: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu>; from Tom Woelfel on Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:47:03PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1000 Lines: 25 On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:47:03PM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux > Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. your prom is too old to understand ELF files. To solve this problem you need either a newer prom or an Indy kernel in ECOFF format. I've successful booted a converted kernel a few minutes ago and will upload this kernel to ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.ecoff.gz Please try it. I've created it with a modified elf2ecoff tool from the kernel sources on the Indy itself (it works only when used on a machine with the same endian as the kernel). I look into fixing byte ordering problems in elf2ecoff to allow even cross compiling of kernels on opposite endian machines. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 9 13:00:36 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA85302 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:00:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA00337 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA93994 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA28609 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:57:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:56:59 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10KTYb-002OpzC; Tue, 9 Mar 99 21:56 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA02219; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19990309214715.B2209@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:47:15 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Jake Griesbach , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Jake Griesbach on Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:57:29AM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 651 Lines: 18 On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:57:29AM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > Do you have any ideas as to what may be wrong? I'm using the > hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz file from > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/linux/mips/RedHat. Please try a newer kernel. Take the one from ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz If you have problems with this kernel, please send the output of hinv (IRIX command). Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 9 13:35:39 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA89904 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA64795 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:34:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA00007 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:34:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from gamera.colorado.edu (gamera.Colorado.EDU [128.138.189.223]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA03134 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:34:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from localhost by gamera.colorado.edu via sendmail with smtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:34:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:34:09 -0700 (MST) From: Jake Griesbach To: Thomas Bogendoerfer cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation In-Reply-To: <19990309214715.B2209@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1895 Lines: 54 Hmm. That still didn't work, although the new kernel booted just fine. I still got an Oops message right after I selected the drive to install to. Could this be a swapon problem? I also have an internal floppy/floptical drive (this also appears on the select drive list). Could this be throwing things off? Does this work for R4600 processors? Here's my hinv output: CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor Main memory size: 96 Mbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Thanks, Jake Griesbach University of Colorado On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:57:29AM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > > Do you have any ideas as to what may be wrong? I'm using the > > hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz file from > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com:/pub/linux/mips/RedHat. > > Please try a newer kernel. Take the one from > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.tar.gz > > If you have problems with this kernel, please send the output of > hinv (IRIX command). > > Thomas. > > -- > This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| > It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) > [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 9 15:08:43 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA92820 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:08:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA83826 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:07:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA95449 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:07:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA04327 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:06:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:21:45 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10KUse-002OyOC; Tue, 9 Mar 99 23:21 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA03411; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:11:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19990309231121.A3408@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:11:21 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Jake Griesbach Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation References: <19990309214715.B2209@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Jake Griesbach on Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 02:34:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 815 Lines: 21 On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 02:34:09PM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > Hmm. That still didn't work, although the new kernel booted just fine. I > still got an Oops message right after I selected the drive to install to. please mail me the oops, so I could look up, where is happens. > Could this be a swapon problem? I also have an internal floppy/floptical maybe. Did you try to create swap ? AFAIK this doesn't work with HardHat. > drive (this also appears on the select drive list). Could this be > throwing things off? Does this work for R4600 processors? it works perfect here. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 9 15:09:11 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA93232 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:09:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA97729 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:08:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA56959 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:08:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from gamera.colorado.edu (gamera.Colorado.EDU [128.138.189.223]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA07202 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:08:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from localhost by gamera.colorado.edu via sendmail with smtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:43:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:43:23 -0700 (MST) From: Jake Griesbach To: Thomas Bogendoerfer cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation In-Reply-To: <19990309231121.A3408@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1862 Lines: 52 On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > please mail me the oops, so I could look up, where is happens. Here it is: Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 1000fc00 00001000 ffffffe0 $4 : 00000020 00000000 1000fc00 8df1fcc0 $8 : 00000010 880ff520 00000001 88152b28 $12: 00000001 00000001 00000001 fffffffc $16: 00000000 00001000 a83b6000 883b3800 $20: 00000002 bfbc0003 00000000 bfb90000 $24: 1000fc01 80000000 $28: 8875e000 8875fb78 883b7e78 880f167c epc : 8801f3f8 Status: 1000fc02 Cause : 00000000 Process runinstall2 (pid: 7, stackpage=8875e000) Stack: 03200801 00802421 808abd88 808abddd 883b3800 bfbc0003 880f167c 88101b38 8df1f4a0 00000074 883bc700 8875fc30 00000078 00000001 883b3800 bfbc0003 883b7e78 883b50e0 00000002 8875fcc0 00000000 00000000 00000005 880f1df4 8df220a8 88086778 8df21074 8807e11c 00000000 880b3b60 883b3800 1000fc00 883b7e78 880f1a6c 00000000 1000fc01 00000001 1000fc01 883b7e00 883b3800 08000000 ... Call Trace: [<880f167c>] [<88101b38>] [<880f1df4>] [<88086778>] (more ...) Code: 00041823 02032824 00431024 14a2fffe 00a42821 40866000 00000000 00000000 install exited abnormally -- recieved signal 11 sending termination signals...done This happens whether or not I use the disk partitioner via the Edit button or not. I'm choosing the third hard disk on my menu which corresponds to the external drive I have after choosing the install button on the first menu. > > > Could this be a swapon problem? I also have an internal floppy/floptical > > maybe. Did you try to create swap ? AFAIK this doesn't work with HardHat. I'm not using swapon explicitly. I was just wondering if maybe the installation program was trying to swapon the raw partition that IRIX defines on a "root" type partition table (using fx). Jake Griesbach University of Colorado From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 9 15:29:42 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA94119 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:29:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA85309 for linux-list; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA77188 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:27:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA00803 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:26:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for engr.sgi.com!linux; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:26:50 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10KVte-002OyPC; Wed, 10 Mar 99 00:26 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA07340; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: <19990310002217.A6143@alpha.franken.de> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:22:17 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Jake Griesbach Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation References: <19990309231121.A3408@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Jake Griesbach on Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 03:43:23PM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 686 Lines: 18 On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 03:43:23PM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > please mail me the oops, so I could look up, where is happens. > > Here it is: thanks. The oops is caused by something going wrong in the SCSI driver. I saw in your hinv, that there are different devices on your scsi bus. Could you please try to remove as much as possible from the bus and try it again ? What devices do have on the bus ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 10 01:21:42 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA49674 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:21:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA75820 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:20:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA61446 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:20:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA01832 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:20:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id KAA19668; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:20:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27758; Wed, 10 Mar 99 10:20:19 +0100 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA01213; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:20:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:20:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure In-Reply-To: <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> References: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1149 Lines: 29 Thomas Bogendoerfer writes: > On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:47:03PM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > > Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux > > Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. > > your prom is too old to understand ELF files. To solve this problem you > need either a newer prom or an Indy kernel in ECOFF format. > > I've successful booted a converted kernel a few minutes ago and will upload > this kernel to > > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990226.ecoff.gz > > Please try it. My Indy has seen the light ;-). The kernel boots and goes it's way through the device checking. All disk's are recognized and the mount-request for the root-file-system is send to the server. The (root)-dir is mounted from the Indy. (I can see this in the server-log) Then the prom-memory is freed and the last thing I see is: freeing unused kernel memory 52k Then nothing happens anymore. I think the next thing to come should be the 'init' process (init doesn't need to be an ECOFF - exec ?). Or do I nedd a modified init to jump into setup? partial sucess, Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 10 14:55:53 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA43107 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:55:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA76038 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:54:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA35042 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:54:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA06467 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:54:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.10]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28858 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:54:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA05987; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:54:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19990310175351.G497@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:53:51 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se, Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure References: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu>; from Tom Woelfel on Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:20:19AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 785 Lines: 18 On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:20:19AM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > My Indy has seen the light ;-). The kernel boots and goes it's way > through the device checking. All disk's are recognized and the > mount-request for the root-file-system is send to the server. The > (root)-dir is mounted from the Indy. (I can see this in the server-log) > Then the prom-memory is freed and the last thing I see is: > freeing unused kernel memory 52k > > Then nothing happens anymore. I think the next thing to come should be > the 'init' process (init doesn't need to be an ECOFF - exec ?). > > Or do I nedd a modified init to jump into setup? No, you definately don't need any other changes than the kernel since the kernel image is the only file that is ever being touched by the PROM. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 10 15:03:28 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA49564 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:03:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA70556 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:02:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA55952 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:02:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from gamera.colorado.edu (gamera.Colorado.EDU [128.138.189.223]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA06393 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:02:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from localhost by gamera.colorado.edu via sendmail with smtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:02:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:02:08 -0700 (MST) From: Jake Griesbach Reply-To: Jake Griesbach To: Thomas Bogendoerfer cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation In-Reply-To: <19990310002217.A6143@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1724 Lines: 49 That was it! I removed the CDROM and internal floptical drive, and the installation proceeded. However, now I get the prom error when rebooting that is caused by elf kernels on old proms: Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. I tried downloading the ecoff kernel you posted in the test directory, but I still get the error. Maybe I haven't installed it correctly, or maybe I am not typing the correct boot command. I have unzipped the ecoff kernel and placed it in the installation (remote computer's) root directory. (It does boot over NFS into the installation script.) I have verified the kernel installed on the local drive after installation is the same size. (I simply copied it over to the local drive.) Do I have to run something equivalent to lilo?? When rebooting I'm typing: boot dksc(0,3) 3 is the SCSI id for the local installed drive. Thanks!! Jake Griesbach On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 03:43:23PM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > > > please mail me the oops, so I could look up, where is happens. > > > > Here it is: > > thanks. The oops is caused by something going wrong in the SCSI driver. > > I saw in your hinv, that there are different devices on your scsi bus. > Could you please try to remove as much as possible from the bus and > try it again ? What devices do have on the bus ? > > Thomas. > > -- > This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| > It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) > [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 10 15:33:12 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA65636 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:33:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA75874 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:32:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA81349 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:32:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA04802 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:32:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:30:54 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10KsRA-002OzyC; Thu, 11 Mar 99 00:30 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA00371; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: <19990311002713.A368@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:27:13 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure References: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu>; from Tom Woelfel on Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:20:19AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 524 Lines: 13 On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:20:19AM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > Then nothing happens anymore. I think the next thing to come should be > the 'init' process (init doesn't need to be an ECOFF - exec ?). no elf is perfect. Could you please send a hinv output ? I suspect this another SC processor. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 10 16:12:19 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA85687 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:12:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA65743 for linux-list; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:11:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA82729 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:11:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA00227 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:11:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:11:06 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10Kt40-002P04C; Thu, 11 Mar 99 01:11 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA01054; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:00:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19990311010022.A1006@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:00:22 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Jake Griesbach Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation References: <19990310002217.A6143@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Jake Griesbach on Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 04:02:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 37 On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 04:02:08PM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > That was it! I removed the CDROM and internal floptical drive, and the > installation proceeded. However, now I get the prom error when rebooting > that is caused by elf kernels on old proms: > > Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux > Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. The kernel worked before the installation and doesn't afterwards ? Strange. > I tried downloading the ecoff kernel you posted in the test directory, but > I still get the error. Maybe I haven't installed it correctly, or maybe I > am not typing the correct boot command. Really the same error ? The 0x7f45 is part of the elf magic, which the ECOFF doesnt contain for sure (at least not at the beginning of the file). > I have unzipped the ecoff kernel and placed it in the installation (remote > computer's) root directory. (It does boot over NFS into the installation If you boot via tftp, you need to put new kernel in your /tftp directory (like you did it with the other kernel). > script.) I have verified the kernel installed on the local drive after > installation is the same size. (I simply copied it over to the local > drive.) Do I have to run something equivalent to lilo?? Right now, you have two choices for booting the kernel. Either use bootp/tftp or put it on your Irix root partition and boot with "boot vmlinux root=/dev/sdc1" (or the approriate /dev/sdxx). Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 09:46:11 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA97204 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:46:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA42028 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:44:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA50677 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:44:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from gamera.colorado.edu (gamera.Colorado.EDU [128.138.189.223]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA04718 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:44:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (griesbac@gamera.colorado.edu) Received: from localhost by gamera.colorado.edu via sendmail with smtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:44:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:44:15 -0700 (MST) From: Jake Griesbach To: Thomas Bogendoerfer cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, ralf@uni-koblenz.de Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation In-Reply-To: <19990311010022.A1006@alpha.franken.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2339 Lines: 61 Thanks, that helped. I didn't have the kernel installed correctly. Now the system boots by itself and runs linux! I've noticed that the web pages haven't been updated for a while. Is X available? I get the following errors when I try to run X (with startx): _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 146 This repeats until I kill startx. Also, I'm not familiar with the Red-Hat linux flavor. How do I start the package manager to get the latest set of packages? Thanks! Jake Griesbach University of Colorado On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 04:02:08PM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > > That was it! I removed the CDROM and internal floptical drive, and the > > installation proceeded. However, now I get the prom error when rebooting > > that is caused by elf kernels on old proms: > > > > Cannot load bootp()/vmlinux > > Illegal f_magic number 0x7f45, expected MIPSELMAGIC or MIPSEBMAGIC. > > The kernel worked before the installation and doesn't afterwards ? Strange. > > > I tried downloading the ecoff kernel you posted in the test directory, but > > I still get the error. Maybe I haven't installed it correctly, or maybe I > > am not typing the correct boot command. > > Really the same error ? The 0x7f45 is part of the elf magic, which the > ECOFF doesnt contain for sure (at least not at the beginning of the file). > > > I have unzipped the ecoff kernel and placed it in the installation (remote > > computer's) root directory. (It does boot over NFS into the installation > > If you boot via tftp, you need to put new kernel in your /tftp directory > (like you did it with the other kernel). > > > script.) I have verified the kernel installed on the local drive after > > installation is the same size. (I simply copied it over to the local > > drive.) Do I have to run something equivalent to lilo?? > > Right now, you have two choices for booting the kernel. Either use > bootp/tftp or put it on your Irix root partition and boot with > "boot vmlinux root=/dev/sdc1" (or the approriate /dev/sdxx). > > Thomas. > > -- > This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| > It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) > [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 13:31:37 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA08351 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:31:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA39945 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:29:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.90]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA85618; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:29:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA22834; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:29:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:29:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199903112129.NAA22834@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: darkaeon@cubicsky.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux In-Reply-To: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> References: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 21 Steve Martin writes: > I'm curious as to what the current progress is with Linux and the > Indigo2(R4400SC 150Mhz Elan) > Also, I remember hearing something about running Xsgi on Linux, has that > been successfully(not stable, just enough to see it start up, maybe not > usable) done yet? One recent change is that I and other SGI engineers now have authorization to release interface details of the system and graphics hardware for Indigo2, as we have previously had authorization for Indy. Unfortunately, I have not yet had time to locate the additional documentation (where Indigo2 differs from Indy). Also, the policy for source code disclosure is still not settled, and being able to release selected bits of low-level IRIX code would make the whole effort much simpler. (Everyone is agreed in principle that SGI should release some such source code to interested Linux developers, but we need a formal policy to authorize people to, in effect, give away SGI intellectual property. Admittedly, the value of the relevant code is small, but individual employees are not ordinarily authorized to make such contributions, although that is obviously changing in respect to Linux-based work.) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 14:26:15 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14454 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:26:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA35391 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:24:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA74831; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:24:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA54631; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903112224.OAA54631@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux To: darkaeon@cubicsky.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:24:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> from "Steve Martin" at Mar 11, 99 04:07:30 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 779 Lines: 21 Steve Martin wrote: : :I'm curious as to what the current progress is with Linux and the :Indigo2(R4400SC 150Mhz Elan) :Also, I remember hearing something about running Xsgi on Linux, has that :been successfully(not stable, just enough to see it start up, maybe not :usable) done yet? : Thanks to Bill for answering the documentation part. Just to add something on the Xsgi part. Miguel got Xsgi to a point where it was starting without being very useful (e.g. no functioning mouse) and went to work on much more important stuff (GNOME) where he made a much bigger impact on the future of Linux as a whole. Miguel did an amazing job considering that he practically reverse engineered everything. So the short answer is: No. We don't have X on Indy/Linux yet. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 14:50:03 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA19508 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA56957 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:47:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA03038 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:47:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA15666 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:46:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26271 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:30:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01456; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:25:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19990311232542.A1385@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:25:42 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Jake Griesbach , Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux/Mips installation References: <19990311010022.A1006@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Jake Griesbach on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 10:44:15AM -0700 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 717 Lines: 18 On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 10:44:15AM -0700, Jake Griesbach wrote: > Thanks, that helped. I didn't have the kernel installed correctly. Now > the system boots by itself and runs linux! > > I've noticed that the web pages haven't been updated for a while. Is X > available? I get the following errors when I try to run X (with startx): > > _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 146 > > This repeats until I kill startx. Also, I'm not familiar with the Red-Hat > linux flavor. How do I start the package manager to get the latest set of > packages? Well, that's ok because it's what is supposed to happen where you're trying to run X without a server. But we've got a full set of clients. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 13:13:39 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA07940 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:13:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA38053 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:12:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA42434 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:12:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (kotetsu.cubicsky.com [208.207.21.114]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA20708 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:11:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (tempest.vlan1.cubicsky.com [192.168.1.2]) by kotetsu.cubicsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA59510 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:14:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Message-ID: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:07:30 -0800 From: Steve Martin Reply-To: darkaeon@cubicsky.com Organization: Axial X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indigo2 & Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 313 Lines: 13 I'm curious as to what the current progress is with Linux and the Indigo2(R4400SC 150Mhz Elan) Also, I remember hearing something about running Xsgi on Linux, has that been successfully(not stable, just enough to see it start up, maybe not usable) done yet? -- .. Steve Martin, Axial, http://www.cubicsky.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 18:15:28 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA41787 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:15:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA19041 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:14:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA87918 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:14:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (kotetsu.cubicsky.com [208.207.21.114]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA04661 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:14:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (tempest.vlan1.cubicsky.com [192.168.1.2]) by kotetsu.cubicsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA59966 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:49:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Message-ID: <36E88D35.6983D79B@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:42:45 -0800 From: Steve Martin Reply-To: darkaeon@cubicsky.com Organization: Axial X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [please ignore this message, testing] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 100 Lines: 9 (please ignore this message, this is a test) -- .. Steve Martin, Axial, http://www.cubicsky.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 11 23:44:59 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA46275 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:44:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA20162 for linux-list; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:44:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA12594 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:44:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA04116 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:44:14 -0500 (EST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id IAA12284; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:43:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26153; Fri, 12 Mar 99 08:44:05 +0100 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA28993; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:44:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:44:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199903120744.IAA28993@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Illegal f_magic number while install-procedure In-Reply-To: <19990311002713.A368@alpha.franken.de> References: <199903081247.NAA02741@sun168.eu> <19990309000234.A2804@alpha.franken.de> <199903100920.KAA01213@sun168.eu> <19990311002713.A368@alpha.franken.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 907 Lines: 27 Thomas Bogendoerfer writes: > On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:20:19AM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > > Then nothing happens anymore. I think the next thing to come should be > > the 'init' process (init doesn't need to be an ECOFF - exec ?). > > no elf is perfect. Could you please send a hinv output ? I suspect this > another SC processor. $ hinv 1 100 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0 CPU: MIPS R4000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 8 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 8 Kbytes Main memory size: 96 Mbytes Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 Graphics board: Indy 8-bit Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, Indycam connected Does this help youu ? //Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 12 02:18:48 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA68403 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:18:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA45233 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:17:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA79895; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:17:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA02023; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:17:34 -0500 (EST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01288; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19169; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05865; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:17 +0100 From: Honza Pazdziora To: Ariel Faigon Cc: darkaeon@cubicsky.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux Message-ID: <19990312111717.A3024@aisa.fi.muni.cz> References: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> <199903112224.OAA54631@oz.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199903112224.OAA54631@oz.engr.sgi.com>; from Ariel Faigon on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:24:23PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 686 Lines: 17 > Thanks to Bill for answering the documentation part. > Just to add something on the Xsgi part. > > Miguel got Xsgi to a point where it was starting without being > very useful (e.g. no functioning mouse) and went to work on much OK, but do we have a code that has the graphics dealing done (to a certain point)? Where could it be found? I'd like to have a look and maybe move on with the development. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ make vmlinux.exe -- SGI Visual Workstation Howto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 12 02:48:19 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA69018 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:48:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA23518 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:47:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA30469 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:47:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA03735 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:47:27 -0500 (EST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04052; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:47:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21524; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:47:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10931; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:47:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:47:05 +0100 From: Honza Pazdziora To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Attempt for R10000 devel Message-ID: <19990312114705.C3024@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2111 Lines: 48 Hello, we have been provided for limited period of time an Origin200 from Petr Mosnicka to see what would be possible to do with the thing. We have IRIX running on that machine and other Indys around, 6.5, 6.2 and 5.3. We have egcs-1.1.1 on that machine that looks like supporting 64 bit code. I'd not call this a "project" since we are by no means sure we would be able to move an inch, but we will try. So this is not an announce but merely an asking for guidlines and opinions. At the moment, compiling a simple code that could be run from the prom seems to be the primary goal (or isn't it?). Is it true that by taking code from arch/mips/kernel/head.S and arch/mips/arc we should be able to get an ELF that the prom should be able to run? Does anybody have such a piece code that we could start with? Is it feasible or are we just mad? Having said we, there are four guys here, two having decent experience writing device drivers, one being The Czech Linux guru. We have experience with IRIX and running HardHat on Indys. Any info that might get us moving is greately appreciated. bash# hinv 1 180 MHZ IP27 Processor CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.6 FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0 Main memory size: 64 Mbytes Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes Data cache size: 32 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B, single ended Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B, single ended CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 1 Integral SCSI controller 2: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended IOC3 serial port: tty1 IOC3 serial port: tty2 IOC3 parallel port: plp1 Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 1, slot MotherBoard, pci 2 Origin 200 base I/O, module 1 slot 1 IOC3 external interrupts: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ make vmlinux.exe -- SGI Visual Workstation Howto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 12 08:14:46 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA78353 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:14:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA22357 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:14:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA47482 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:13:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from vera.dpo.uab.edu (Vera.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA01985 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:13:54 -0500 (EST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from mdk187.tucc.uab.edu by vera.dpo.uab.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.05DF7F30@vera.dpo.uab.edu>; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:13:49 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:59:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@mdk187.tucc.uab.edu To: darkaeon@cubicsky.com cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux In-Reply-To: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 785 Lines: 23 On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Steve Martin wrote: > I'm curious as to what the current progress is with Linux and the > Indigo2(R4400SC 150Mhz Elan) > Also, I remember hearing something about running Xsgi on Linux, has that > been successfully(not stable, just enough to see it start up, maybe not > usable) done yet? > > -- > .. > Steve Martin, > Axial, http://www.cubicsky.com Just as a quick note, to where I am on the Indigo2. I have gotten it to boot the kernel off of the network and start initializing devices. It will even send out packets over ethernet, but I do not have working interrupts yet so it doesn't ever see any response. For the most part, it dies on "Trying to mount root filesystem". I should have something working not too long after I get some docs. -Andrew From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 12 10:14:27 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA81878 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:14:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA03027 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:12:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA18002; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:12:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (miguel@metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: from metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx (metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx [132.248.29.92]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA12456; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:12:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (miguel@metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30851; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:14:51 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:14:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199903121814.MAA30851@metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx> From: Miguel de Icaza To: adelton@informatics.muni.cz CC: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, darkaeon@cubicsky.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-reply-to: <19990312111717.A3024@aisa.fi.muni.cz> (message from Honza Pazdziora on Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:17:17 +0100) Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux X-FileLength: are infinite where infinity is set to 255 characters References: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> <199903112224.OAA54631@oz.engr.sgi.com> <19990312111717.A3024@aisa.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 613 Lines: 17 > OK, but do we have a code that has the graphics dealing done (to > a certain point)? Where could it be found? I'd like to have a look and > maybe move on with the development. Which part are you interested in? The kernel support or the X server? The kernel support is integrated. You just need to setup an IRIX emulation environment (/usr/emul/irix perhaps? I forget) and the proper devices used by the X server in /dev and you should be able to launch the X server. Not every client hangs the kernel, but xterm and emacs notably do it (run them on a different machine to eliminate a variable). Miguel. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 13 02:44:06 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA51184 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:44:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA87451 for linux-list; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:43:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA05196; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:43:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA07854; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:43:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!ariel; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:42:23 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10LeLS-002OiZC; Sat, 13 Mar 99 03:40 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id DAA04162; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:35:34 +0100 Message-ID: <19990313033534.C4129@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:35:34 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Miguel de Icaza , adelton@informatics.muni.cz Cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, darkaeon@cubicsky.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux References: <36E85AC2.25F7C9B0@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> <199903112224.OAA54631@oz.engr.sgi.com> <19990312111717.A3024@aisa.fi.muni.cz> <199903121814.MAA30851@metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903121814.MAA30851@metropolis.nuclecu.unam.mx>; from Miguel de Icaza on Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 12:14:51PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 674 Lines: 15 On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 12:14:51PM -0600, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > The kernel support is integrated. You just need to setup an IRIX > emulation environment (/usr/emul/irix perhaps? I forget) and the > proper devices used by the X server in /dev and you should be able to > launch the X server. I don't think this still works with a current kernel. I'm pretty sure, that I broke at least the graphics device, when I did the new newport console. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 12 17:20:16 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA16416 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:20:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA04291 for linux-list; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:19:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA74258 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:19:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: from bun.falkenberg.se (dialup71-7-5.swipnet.se [130.244.71.101]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA09758 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:18:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: (from ulfc@localhost) by calypso.saturn (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA00965; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:23:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:23:35 -0500 From: Ulf Carlsson To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: gkm@total.net, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.2.1 MIPS kernel sources plus Indy kernel binaries uploaded Message-ID: <19990312222335.A867@bun.falkenberg.se> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas Bogendoerfer , gkm@total.net, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <19990227001617.A4022@alpha.franken.de> <199902270430.XAA21725@wacky.total.net> <19990227120144.A601@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3us In-Reply-To: <19990227120144.A601@alpha.franken.de>; from Thomas Bogendoerfer on Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 12:01:44PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4919 Lines: 73 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 12:01:44PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:30:50PM -0500, gkm@total.net wrote: > > How has everyone else faired in the compiling game? :) > > it worked out of the box, but not on an out of the box HardHat:-( > > HardHat has still gcc-2.7.2 as the default C compiler and this > compiler has different defines. So either use egcs or update your > gcc specs file (sorry, I couldn't find the patch right now, anyone ?) Ooops, sorry about the delay but here's the specs man and here's his specs file! The specs man says: Take this specs file and put it in /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/mips-linux/2.7.2.2 or similar.. - Ulf --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=specs *asm: %{mcpu=*} %{m4650} %{mmad:-m4650} %{G*} %{EB} %{EL} %{mips1} %{mips2} %{mips3} %{mips4} %{v} %{noasmopt:-O0} %{!noasmopt:%{O:-O2} %{O1:-O2} %{O2:-O2} %{O3:-O3}} %{g} %{g0} %{g1} %{g2} %{g3} %{ggdb:-g} %{ggdb0:-g0} %{ggdb1:-g1} %{ggdb2:-g2} %{ggdb3:-g3} %{gstabs:-g} %{gstabs0:-g0} %{gstabs1:-g1} %{gstabs2:-g2} %{gstabs3:-g3} %{gstabs+:-g} %{gstabs+0:-g0} %{gstabs+1:-g1} %{gstabs+2:-g2} %{gstabs+3:-g3} %{gcoff:-g} %{gcoff0:-g0} %{gcoff1:-g1} %{gcoff2:-g2} %{gcoff3:-g3} %{!fno-PIC:%{!fno-pic:-KPIC}} %{fPIC:-KPIC} %{fpic:-KPIC} %{fno-PIC:-non_shared} %{fno-pic:-non_shared} %{membedded-pic} *asm_final: *cpp: %{.cc: -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS__ -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS -D_LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS}} %{.cxx: -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS__ -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS -D_LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS}} %{.C: -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS__ -D__LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS -D_LANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_C_PLUS_PLUS}} %{.m: -D__LANGUAGE_OBJECTIVE_C__ -D__LANGUAGE_OBJECTIVE_C -D_LANGUAGE_OBJECTIVE_C %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_OBJECTIVE_C}} %{.S: -D__LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY__ -D__LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY -D_LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY }} %{.s: -D__LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY__ -D__LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY -D_LANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_ASSEMBLY }} %{!.S:%{!.s:-D__LANGUAGE_C__ -D__LANGUAGE_C -D_LANGUAGE_C %{!ansi:-DLANGUAGE_C }}} %{mfp32: -D_MIPS_FPSET=16}%{!mfp32: -D_MIPS_FPSET=32} %{mips1: -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS1} %{mips2: -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS2} %{mips3: -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS3} %{mips4: -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS4} %{!mips1: %{!mips2: %{!mips3: ! %{!mips4: -D_MIPS_ISA=_MIPS_ISA_MIPS1}}}} %{mint64:-D_MIPS_SZINT=64 %{!mlong64:-D__SIZE_TYPE__=long\ unsigned\ int -D__SSIZE_TYPE__=long\ int -D__PTRDIFF_TYPE__=long\ int -D_MIPS_SZLONG=64 -D_MIPS_SZPTR=64}} %{!mint64:-D_MIPS_SZINT=32 %{!mlong64:-D__SIZE_TYPE__=unsigned\ int -D__SSIZE_TYPE__=int -D__PTRDIFF_TYPE__=int -D_MIPS_SZLONG=32 -D_MIPS_SZPTR=32}} %{mlong64:-D__SIZE_TYPE__=long\ unsigned\ int -D__SSIZE_TYPE__=long\ int -D__PTRDIFF_TYPE__=long\ int -D_MIPS_SZLONG=64 -D_MIPS_SZPTR=64} %{mips3:-U__mips -D__mips=3 -D__mips64} %{mips4:-U__mips -D__mips=4 -D__mips64} %{mgp32:-U__mips64} %{mgp64:-D__mips64} %{EB:-UMIPSEL -U__MIPSEL__ -D__MIPSEB__ %{!ansi:-DMIPSEB}} %{EL:-UMIPSEB -U__MIPSEB__ -D__MIPSEL__ %{!ansi:-DMIPSEL}} %{fno-PIC:-U__PIC__ -U__pic__} %{fno-pic:-U__PIC__ -U__pic__} %{fPIC:-D__PIC__ -D__pic__} %{fpic:-D__PIC__ -D__pic__} %{-D__HAVE_FPU__ } %{posix:-D_POSIX_SOURCE} *cc1: %{gline:%{!g:%{!g0:%{!g1:%{!g2: -g1}}}}} %{mips1:-mfp32 -mgp32}%{mips2:-mfp32 -mgp32}%{mips3:%{!msingle-float:%{!m4650:-mfp64}} -mgp64} %{mips4:%{!msingle-float:%{!m4650:-mfp64}} -mgp64} %{mfp64:%{msingle-float:%emay not use both -mfp64 and -msingle-float}} %{mfp64:%{m4650:%emay not use both -mfp64 and -m4650}} %{m4650:-mcpu=r4650} %{G*} %{EB:-meb} %{EL:-mel} %{EB:%{EL:%emay not use both -EB and -EL}} %{pic-none: -mno-half-pic} %{pic-lib: -mhalf-pic} %{pic-extern: -mhalf-pic} %{pic-calls: -mhalf-pic} %{save-temps: } *cc1plus: *endfile: %{!shared:crtend.o%s} %{shared:crtendS.o%s} crtn.o%s *link: %{G*} %{EB} %{EL} %{mips1} %{mips2} %{mips3} %{mips4} %{bestGnum} %{shared} %{non_shared} %{call_shared} %{no_archive} %{exact_version} %{!shared: %{!static: %{rdynamic:-export-dynamic} %{!dynamic-linker:-dynamic-linker /lib/ld.so.1}} %{static:-static}} *lib: %{!shared: %{mieee-fp:-lieee} %{p:-lgmon} %{pg:-lgmon} %{!ggdb:-lc} %{ggdb:-lg}} *libgcc: %{!shared:-lgcc} *startfile: %{!shared: %{pg:gcrt1.o%s} %{!pg:%{p:gcrt1.o%s} %{!p:%{profile:gcrt1.o%s} %{!profile:crt1.o%s}}}} crti.o%s %{!shared:crtbegin.o%s} %{shared:crtbeginS.o%s} *switches_need_spaces: *signed_char: %{funsigned-char:-D__CHAR_UNSIGNED__} *predefines: -D__ELF__ -D_MIPS_SIM=_MIPS_SIM_ABI32 -D__PIC__ -D__pic__ -Dunix -Dmips -DR3000 -DMIPSEB -Dlinux -Asystem(linux) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(mips) -Amachine(mips) *cross_compile: 1 *multilib: . !EL !EB;el EL !EB;eb !EL EB; --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 14 08:35:19 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA63451 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:35:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA24465 for linux-list; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:34:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA18670 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:34:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA02467 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:34:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 17:34:31 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10LnWl-002OmiC; Sat, 13 Mar 99 13:28 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA00827 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:19:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19990313131944.A809@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:19:44 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: initrd is working and new test image Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1405 Lines: 33 Hi, since there are still some people out there, who have problems with Linux/MIPS on their Indys, I was looking for way to rule out more setup problems. One way is to get initrd working for Linux/MIPS, so setting up the nfs root directory won't be necessary anymore. I hope Puffin will get some time to get us a more decent RedHat installer. To build a kernel with an initrd, you need configure initrd into your kernel, then make boot (right now it works only with ecoff kernels) and use arch/mips/boot/addinitrd to combine vmlinux.ecoff with your initrd. For now, I've built a new kernel with an attached initrd. This initrd contains a shell (ash) and some utilities (ls, mount, etc.) plus the needed shared libraries. When you boot this kernel, you should see the message will "Welcome to Linux/MIPS" and should be dropped into a single user shell. So people with the problem seeing only "Freeing unused kernel memory", please try it, and report your experiences. I hope to get the kernel uploaded before monday (depends how crappy the line to ftp.linux.sgi.com this time is). You can find it ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-initrd-990313.gz Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Mar 13 16:11:02 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA56057 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:11:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA50429 for linux-list; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:10:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA04825 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:10:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA01646 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:10:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-28.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.28]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA04767 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:10:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA03859; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:08:42 +0100 Message-ID: <19990314010841.A3815@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:08:41 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: FAQ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 477 Lines: 13 Hi, I've just put my rewrite of the Linux/MIPS FAQ under CVS control on linus.linux.sgi.com in the module FAQ. I want to invite people to contribute by proofreading, spellchecking and commenting. The FAQ rewrite is using the Linux SGML-Tools package to generate FAQ versions in various data formats. When I find the time I'll arrange that the websites will automatically be updated by the most current version; but somebody else will want to do that? (hint, hint) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 14 15:04:43 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA66423 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:04:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA98344 for linux-list; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:03:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA40559 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:03:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard@infopact.nl) Received: from perron-null.patser.net (9dyn12.breda.casema.net [195.96.116.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA06723 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:03:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard@infopact.nl) Received: from infopact.nl (indigo2.patser.net [192.168.6.40]) by perron-null.patser.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA08147; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:47:20 +0100 Message-ID: <36EC41C5.4D1A81F5@infopact.nl> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:09:57 +0100 From: Richard Hartensveld X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew R. Baker" CC: darkaeon@cubicsky.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indigo2 & Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 639 Lines: 19 > Just as a quick note, to where I am on the Indigo2. I have gotten it to > boot the kernel off of the network and start initializing devices. It > will even send out packets over ethernet, but I do not have working > interrupts yet so it doesn't ever see any response. For the most part, it > dies on "Trying to mount root filesystem". I should have something > working not too long after I get some docs. > > Is there some place where i can get your kernel (source) from? have you got some kind of CVS tree running? I've got an indigo2 with Extreme video here on which i'd like to try your kernel and see what happens. Richard From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 14 23:18:44 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA44863 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:18:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA10530 for linux-list; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:17:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA92612 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:17:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (torbjorn.gannholm@fra.se) Received: from x.fra.se (x.fra.se [193.12.220.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id XAA06121 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:17:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (torbjorn.gannholm@fra.se) Received: from fra.se by x.fra.se via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id IAA03920; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:23:54 +0100 Message-ID: <36ECB588.F39BF967@fra.se> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:23:53 +0100 From: Torbjorn Gannholm X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP12) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ralf@uni-koblenz.de CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FAQ References: <19990314010841.A3815@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 867 Lines: 28 ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote: > Hi, > > I've just put my rewrite of the Linux/MIPS FAQ under CVS control on > linus.linux.sgi.com in the module FAQ. I want to invite people to > contribute by proofreading, spellchecking and commenting. > > The FAQ rewrite is using the Linux SGML-Tools package to generate > FAQ versions in various data formats. When I find the time I'll > arrange that the websites will automatically be updated by the > most current version; but somebody else will want to do that? > (hint, hint) > > Ralf There is a proofreading-group collected by the FSF. Mail requests to proofread@gnu.org. You will probably get lots of answers, so you might need to organize the work so as to limit the mail volume. -- /Torbjörn This message is a personal message from Torbjörn Gannholm and does not necessarily represent the opinion of my employer. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 15 15:08:53 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA21510 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:08:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA88439 for linux-list; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:06:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA38911 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:06:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA04909 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:06:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:17:01 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10MejG-002OuWC; Mon, 15 Mar 99 22:16 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA02363 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: <19990315220341.C2301@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:03:41 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: newport console problems, some hardware questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1118 Lines: 24 Ok, I finally found the reason for the video corruptions with the new newport console some reported to me. It happens only, when there are less than 1024 scanlines on the screen. My fix is to enable the faster scrolling only with 1024 scanline screen modes. This slows down scrolling, and I hope there is a better solution (but I doubt it). It looks like video rams get only refreshed, when they are displayed. Is this true ? I've tried enabling the vram refresh in the config register, but that didn't change anything. Is there are a way to avoid losing the content of offscreen scanlines ? Another question: As the newport problem is mostly solved, I'll try to get the scsi fixed. I'm now able to reproduce a complete lockup with my DAT drive. While looking for the reason, I've got GIO fifo full interrupts (INT2 local interrupt 0). Can someone explain, when these interrupts occur ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 16 04:01:07 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA78856 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 04:01:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA84529 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA39959 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 04:00:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA25590 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:59:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id MAA24431; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:59:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02071; Tue, 16 Mar 99 12:59:52 +0100 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA12251; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:59:52 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:59:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199903161159.MAA12251@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: initrd is working and new test image In-Reply-To: <19990313131944.A809@alpha.franken.de> References: <19990313131944.A809@alpha.franken.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1082 Lines: 29 Thomas Bogendoerfer writes: > Hi, Hi, > For now, I've built a new kernel with an attached initrd. This initrd > contains a shell (ash) and some utilities (ls, mount, etc.) plus the > needed shared libraries. When you boot this kernel, you should see > the message will "Welcome to Linux/MIPS" and should be dropped into a single > user shell. > > So people with the problem seeing only "Freeing unused kernel memory", > please try it, and report your experiences. Yesss, this works. After netbooting I find myself in the shell. The included prog's are working. Well, actually I've rearranded my desk a little bit, and while 'the X-files' are running in the background I played a little bit ;-) I was furthermore able to create a directory (/mnt) and (straightforward) I tried to mount the root-dir from the server. This works too, but whith some error-messages (RPC sendmsg returned error code 128). After setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH it was aslo possible to execute /misc/installinit/init. The following mount-request for /proc ended the program. Hope this helps, Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 16 08:53:56 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA61168 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:53:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA24960 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:52:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA81085 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:52:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA07850 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-24.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.24]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08017 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:06:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA10516; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:16:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19990316131653.E9924@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:16:53 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Torbjorn Gannholm Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FAQ References: <19990314010841.A3815@uni-koblenz.de> <36ECB588.F39BF967@fra.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <36ECB588.F39BF967@fra.se>; from Torbjorn Gannholm on Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 08:23:53AM +0100 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 449 Lines: 11 On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 08:23:53AM +0100, Torbjorn Gannholm wrote: > There is a proofreading-group collected by the FSF. Mail requests to > proofread@gnu.org. You will probably get lots of answers, so you might > need to organize the work so as to limit the mail volume. Thanks for the hint; Michael Hill has already sent me a 53kb patch which is going into the CVS asap; I hope somebody else will reread and comment the text once again. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 16 11:17:09 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA73864 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA95103 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA19672; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:15:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA73750; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:15:12 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903161915.LAA73750@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Anon CVS (was Re: FAQ) To: R.vandenBerg@inter.nl.net Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:15:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <199903161719.JAA96403@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> from "owner-linux@cthulhu" at Mar 16, 99 09:19:37 am Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 718 Lines: 27 Just a reminder since this is a FAQ... (in a bounced message :-) Richard van den Berg wrote: : :P.S. is cvs read-only possible at linus.linux.sgi.com? I've tried without :succes getting a permission denied. Instead I've ftp'ed the cvs tree. : :Regards, :Richard : Anonymous read-only CVS to linus.linux.sgi.com: Using CVS you can checkout the Linux/MIPS source tree with the following commands: cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs login (Only needed the first time you use anonymous CVS, the password is "cvs") cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs co where you insert linux, libc, or gdb for . -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 16 13:13:06 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA79940 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:13:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA10396 for linux-list; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:12:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA70286 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:11:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA14043 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:11:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:10:43 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10N16h-002OvIC; Tue, 16 Mar 99 22:10 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA02623; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:52:40 +0100 Message-ID: <19990316215239.C2594@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:52:39 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: initrd is working and new test image References: <19990313131944.A809@alpha.franken.de> <199903161159.MAA12251@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903161159.MAA12251@sun168.eu>; from Tom Woelfel on Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 12:59:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 847 Lines: 21 On Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 12:59:52PM +0100, Tom Woelfel wrote: > Yesss, this works. After netbooting I find myself in the shell. The > included prog's are working. that's great. Now I hope this will also work for the R4400 machines. > I was furthermore able to create a directory (/mnt) and > (straightforward) I tried to mount the root-dir from the server. This > works too, but whith some error-messages (RPC sendmsg returned error > code 128). that's normal for a 2.2 kernel without running portmap. One workaround is to use mount -o nolock, but I'm not sure, if this option is supported by the mount on the initrd. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 17 05:22:50 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA21692 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:22:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA40483 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:21:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA13003 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:21:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA07120 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 05:21:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-30.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.30]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17753 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:20:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA17524; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:42:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19990317114231.A17514@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:42:31 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Richard van den Berg Cc: Torbjorn Gannholm , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FAQ References: <19990316131653.E9924@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Richard van den Berg on Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 06:16:22PM +0100 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1076 Lines: 28 On Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 06:16:22PM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: > An outdated linux-doc-sgml package has prevented me doing so, when updated > I'll read it. I'm using whatever RedHat 5.2's sgml-tools 1.0.7 but still observe some problems. There is for example a strange problem which prevents me from generating GNU-info version. > P.S. is cvs read-only possible at linus.linux.sgi.com? I've tried without > succes getting a permission denied. Instead I've ftp'ed the cvs tree. Yes, it's possible. From the FAQ: 4.2. Anonymous CVS servers. For those who always want to stay on the bleeding edge and want to avoid having to download patch files or full tarballs we also have an anonymous CVS server. Using CVS you can checkout the Linux/MIPS source tree with the following commands: cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs login (Only needed the first time you use anonymous CVS, the password is "cvs") cvs -d :pserver:cvs@linus.linux.sgi.com:/cvs co where you insert linux, libc, or gdb for . Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 17 10:09:15 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA28403 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:09:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA40158 for linux-list; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:07:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA63018 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gkm@gawd.mb.ca) Received: from wormwood.gawd.mb.ca (wormwood.gawd.mb.ca [204.112.93.65]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id KAA26021 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:07:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gkm@gawd.mb.ca) Message-Id: <199903171807.KAA26021@deliverator.sgi.com> Received: (qmail 16586 invoked from network); 17 Mar 1999 18:06:30 -0000 Received: from moe.gawd.mb.ca (HELO gawd.mb.ca) (204.112.93.66) by wormwood.gawd.mb.ca with SMTP; 17 Mar 1999 18:06:30 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: gkm@total.net Subject: Strange bootp behavior. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:06:29 -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2262 Lines: 67 I've been playing with my 'new' challenge S for awhile and decided I wanted to be free of the Irix HD sitting there just for the vmlinux it contains. I've got other Linux boxes about the house so decided to do a bootp from one of them. The results have been mixed to say the least. Here's what I do to the PROM: >> printenv SystemPartition=scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(8) OSLoadPartition=scsi(0)disk(2)rdisk(0)partition(0) OSLoader=sash OSLoadFilename=/unix AutoLoad=Yes TimeZone=PST8PDT console=d diskless=0 dbaud=9600 volume=80 sgilogo=y autopower=y netaddr=204.112.93.74 eaddr=08:00:69:08:8e:af ConsoleOut=serial(0) ConsoleIn=serial(0) cpufreq=150 >> setenv SystemPartition bootp():/ >> setenv OSLoader vmlinux >> boot bootp():vmlinux root=/dev/sdb1 (this is what's suggested by the PROM manual for diskless stations) And here's what happens when the kernel gets going: SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2077833 [1014 MB] [1.0 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2070235 [1010 MB] [1.0 GB] SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4110000 [2006 MB] [2.0 GB] sgiseeq.c: David S. Miller (dm@engr.sgi.com) eth0: SGI Seeq8003 08:00:69:08:8e:af Partition check: sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 sdc: sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing prom memory: 2132k freed Freeing unused kernel memory: 36k freed scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 Warning: unable to open an initial console. scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. This is the 2.2.1 tarball released around February 26th. It seems something is trying to talk to the SCSI drive for the console. If I leave the PROM booting with sash from the IRIX drive, it works. (This is also using bootp to get the kernel) So, now it's even sillier, I'm using a 1 Gig drive for what's probably a 9K shell. :) Anyone have an idea why this happens, or how to fix? Second, anyone know where to put the root=/dev/sdb1 so I can have it autoboot with bootp? I've gotten it to autobootp, but it always tries to root off of Dev 00:00 Thanks in advance.. Greg From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 04:52:41 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA54587 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:52:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA81185 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:50:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA93020 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:50:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mike@mdhill.genxl.com) Received: from mdhill.genxl.com ([142.154.27.29]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id EAA03588 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:50:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mike@mdhill.genxl.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.genxl.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA01475; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 07:45:44 -0500 From: "Michael Hill" Message-Id: <9903180745.ZM1473@mdhill.genxl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 07:45:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: Thomas Bogendoerfer "newport console problems, some hardware questions" (Mar 15, 10:03pm) References: <19990315220341.C2301@alpha.franken.de> Reply-to: mdhill@genxl.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Thomas Bogendoerfer , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: newport console problems, some hardware questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 591 Lines: 13 On Mar 15, 10:03pm, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > Ok, I finally found the reason for the video corruptions with the new > newport console some reported to me. It happens only, when there are > less than 1024 scanlines on the screen. My fix is to enable the > faster scrolling only with 1024 scanline screen modes. This slows > down scrolling, and I hope there is a better solution (but I doubt it). This works well, Thomas. Now I can see what's happening on the screen. I haven't run into any problems with the scrolling speed yet (I don't notice a difference just by watching it). Mike From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 13:40:54 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA62972 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:40:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA00562 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:39:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA27744 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:39:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA03245 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:39:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:39:10 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10NkVI-002OydC; Thu, 18 Mar 99 22:39 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA02218; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19990318223524.B2195@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:35:24 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: mdhill@genxl.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: newport console problems, some hardware questions References: <19990315220341.C2301@alpha.franken.de> <9903180745.ZM1473@mdhill.genxl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <9903180745.ZM1473@mdhill.genxl.com>; from Michael Hill on Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 07:45:43AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 841 Lines: 18 On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 07:45:43AM -0500, Michael Hill wrote: > > faster scrolling only with 1024 scanline screen modes. This slows > > down scrolling, and I hope there is a better solution (but I doubt it). > > This works well, Thomas. Now I can see what's happening on the screen. I > haven't run into any problems with the scrolling speed yet (I don't notice a > difference just by watching it). it isn't that bad, when the lines are only partially filled or whenever columns contain the same content. But there is a fix insight. I just have to figure out, how to completly clear the scrolled in scanlines. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 15:07:42 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA37184 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:07:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA88834 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:06:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA00979 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:06:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (deliverator.sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA09003 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:06:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:06:26 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10Nlri-002OygC; Fri, 19 Mar 99 00:06 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA03287; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:57:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19990318225705.A3281@alpha.franken.de> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:57:05 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: gkm@total.net, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Strange bootp behavior. References: <199903171807.KAA26021@deliverator.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903171807.KAA26021@deliverator.sgi.com>; from gkm@total.net on Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 12:06:29PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 966 Lines: 25 On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 12:06:29PM -0600, gkm@total.net wrote: > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:11, sector 528 > Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. you have problems with that disk. The kernel isn't able to read the init binary form it. The messages are for access to /dev/sdb1. > It seems something is trying to talk to the SCSI drive for the console. yes to get major/minor of the console and for /sbin/init. > If I leave the PROM booting with sash from the IRIX drive, it works. so you removed this harddisk from the scsi chain ? Have you thought about scsi termination ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 15:31:34 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA80729 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:31:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA20376 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:29:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA20970 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:29:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA04988 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:29:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.16]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA10296 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:08:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22650; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:05:24 +0100 Message-ID: <19990319000524.K19636@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:05:24 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Karel van Houten , linux-mips@fnet.fr Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, joey@infodrom.north.de, debian-mips@lists.debian.org, RE-Glaue@wiu.edu Subject: Re: Little Endian - Debian/Linux/MIPS Port References: <199903181752.SAA25644@sparta.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903181752.SAA25644@sparta.research.kpn.com>; from Karel van Houten on Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 06:52:38PM +0100 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1511 Lines: 32 Hi everybody, nice that somebody forwarded this thread to one of the relevant MIPS mailing lists ... I didn't even know about a Debian project, therefore currently the Linux/MIPS FAQ says, there is none ... Anybody wants to write a paragraph about the state, availability etc.? In SGML-Tools, please. > > No Linux Kernel binaries exist for little endian. Whether or not a > > working kernel for little endian can even be cross-compiled for the > > little endian is dependant upon the current maintenance status of the > > Linux kernel source code for linux-mipsel which I do not know. > > So the only thing that those interested in running Linux on little endian > > can do is either cross their fingers and hope things work out with my > > efforts, or help develop a running port of linux on little endian which > > might include cross-compiling and/or kernel hacking. The latter is > > encouraged. > > Also, anyone at all out there who can give me solid information about the > > current maintenance status of linux-mipsel in the Linux Source code, or > > what not, is appreciated. This describes the situation very inaccurate. The kernel binary does not only depend on the machine's byteorder but also on the very much of the rest of the system. So we actually would need to provide several kernel binaries for big and little endian machines. We kernel hackers usually don't because it's alot of work. Aside, I'm running Linux on several big and little endian machines, no prob. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 15:41:28 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA84905 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:41:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA81734 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:39:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA10786 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:39:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA11803 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:39:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-16.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.16]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11351 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:39:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA23460; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:38:46 +0100 Message-ID: <19990319003846.O19636@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:38:46 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, debian-mips Subject: Re: Little Endian - Debian/Linux/MIPS Port References: <19990316210931.A10315@finlandia.artis.uni-oldenburg.de> <19990318205205.A1101@bun.falkenberg.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990318205205.A1101@bun.falkenberg.se>; from Ulf Carlsson on Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 08:52:05PM -0500 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 342 Lines: 8 Talking about the Deskstation Tyne - I dare to bet that it's possible to get the Tyne port running again with a NE2000 card and non-DMA IDE within two days of work. That includes 12h of sleep per day. It will just take somebody competent getting his finger hacking, sigh ... There is even a good reference, the {Net,Open}BSD code. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Mar 18 15:10:37 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA74532 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:10:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA15060 for linux-list; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:10:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA00964 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:10:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from tempest.cubicsky.com (kotetsu.cubicsky.com [208.207.21.114]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA06609 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempest.cubicsky.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA01223 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:06:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36F1B124.A96C1CD4@kotetsu.cubicsky.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:06:28 -0800 From: Steve Martin Reply-To: tau@cubicsky.com Organization: Axial X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: possible to change address on list? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 185 Lines: 10 would it be possible to change my address on this mailing list? (eg. from darkaeon@kotetsu.cubicsky.com to tau@cubicsky.com) thanks, .. Steve Martin, Axial, http://www.cubicsky.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 19 14:57:32 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA71810 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:57:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA18698 for linux-list; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:56:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA52898 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:56:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA02028 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:56:26 -0500 (EST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:56:58 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10O8Bd-002Oo8C; Fri, 19 Mar 99 23:56 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA02545; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:26:18 +0100 Message-ID: <19990319222618.A2527@alpha.franken.de> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:26:18 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Greg Moeller Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Strange bootp behavior. References: <19990318225705.A3281@alpha.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Greg Moeller on Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 05:20:16PM -0600 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 826 Lines: 21 On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 05:20:16PM -0600, Greg Moeller wrote: > Broke printenv: > SystemPartition=bootp():/ > OSLoader=vmlinux this one didn't work for me at all, I had to change it to SystemPartition=bootp(). With this it works without problems. I see in your boot messages, that on your machine the freed prom memory is higher than on my machine. Ulf Carlson needed to disable the prom memory freeing to get his kernel working. So I'm pretty sure, there something wrong with it. I've disabled this feature in the current CVS version. Please try it (the updated file is arch/mips/arc/memory.c). Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 21 18:35:22 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA05245 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:35:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA66162 for linux-list; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:34:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA57801 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:34:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA00104 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:34:30 -0500 (EST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA98028; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 02:33:54 GMT Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA00474; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:33:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199903220233.TAA00474@harmony.village.org> To: linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Little Endian - Debian/Linux/MIPS Port Cc: Karel van Houten , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, joey@infodrom.north.de, debian-mips@lists.debian.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:48:22 CST." References: Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:33:23 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 782 Lines: 17 In message Russell E Glaue writes: : Is the DECstation port compatible with the Deskstation bios and related : system chipset and hardware? I didn't think it was. Deskstation and DECstation are two different beasties. The Deskstation Tyne (and rPC44, which is my machine) are both R4xxx based machines that use the ARC BIOS interface. All ARC BIOS machines are little endian (well, sgi calls its bios ARC too, so that is confusing). The JAZZ is supported as a ARC BIOS machine and it is little endian. Ralf also has several other little endian mips machines that he's supporting. The Tyne isn't one of them due to hardware problems with the one he had and some bone-headedness, at the time, on the part of Deskstation. Warner From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 22 07:59:56 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA01452 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:59:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA37663 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:57:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA37655 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: from bun.falkenberg.se (dialup85-7-6.swipnet.se [130.244.85.102]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA04608 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:57:43 -0500 (EST) mail_from (ulfc@bun.falkenberg.se) Received: (from ulfc@localhost) by bun.falkenberg.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA27517 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:47:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:47:06 -0500 From: Ulf Carlsson To: Linux SGI Subject: GDB Message-ID: <19990322164706.A27372@bun.falkenberg.se> Mail-Followup-To: Linux SGI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3us Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1174 Lines: 25 Hi, I'm having some problems with gdb for mips. I can't examine core files since gdb itself dumps core files when I try start gdb (gdb nsgsml core). Are there other ways to check where a program crashes (except for printf()s)? It isn't possible to run nsgsml in gdb either, or at least it doesn't provide the information I want. It's also tricky to debug where gdb fails because it just dumps another core when I try to debug the core file gdb dumps :) By the way, I have received a new Indy from SGI (that's why I'm back in action). But the monitor was not working so I had to take the machine to the support center in Sweden, which I did last Friday. They replaced the monitor so everything works fine now. Thanks Nancy! FYI I've fixed /dev/graphics now (thanks for making it a module at first place Alex!). The code was really broken. I'll commit that stuff sometime when I don't experience too much CVS problems.. (CVS is really bad from here..) I've applied for being an X developer now as well (X was the real reason for fixing /dev/graphics). Maybe I can remove the abscence of X servers if it's so easy to port the IBM8514 driver as everyone says it is. - Ulf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 22 15:16:19 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA12136 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:16:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA03296 for linux-list; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:15:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA02053 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:15:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA06939 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:15:21 -0500 (EST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:17:13 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10PDuW-002P4CC; Tue, 23 Mar 99 00:15 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03494 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: <19990323001051.B2701@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:10:51 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: Linux SGI Subject: Re: GDB References: <19990322164706.A27372@bun.falkenberg.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990322164706.A27372@bun.falkenberg.se>; from Ulf Carlsson on Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 04:47:06PM -0500 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1361 Lines: 26 On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 04:47:06PM -0500, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > I'm having some problems with gdb for mips. I can't examine core files > since gdb itself dumps core files when I try start gdb (gdb nsgsml core). > Are there other ways to check where a program crashes (except for printf()s)? > It isn't possible to run nsgsml in gdb either, or at least it doesn't > provide the information I want. hmm, if memory serves right, I had reading core working at some point. But I just tried it again and it fails like you described. I debugged gdb some time ago and it's was a real nightmare. IMHO fixing gdb isn't a short term task and I'm right now trying to plug all SCSI holes (two bugs smashed, but still too much known bugs unfixed). And after the SCSI stuff I'll port the RedHat Rawhide installer, so I'm not available to fix gdb for some time. For a short term solution edit arch/mips/mm/fault.c and look for the second #if 0 (after the label bad_area) and change that to a #if 1. This will give you a kernel message for every segfault, but it won't help you for bus errors (but it's also possible to add printks there, too). Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 06:39:15 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA20344 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:39:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA48440 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:38:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA56006 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:38:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (chipper@llamas.net) Received: from smtp-01.neosoft.com (smtp-01.neosoft.com [206.109.1.19]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id GAA09695 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:38:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (chipper@llamas.net) Received: (qmail 18406 invoked by uid 101); 26 Mar 1999 14:38:27 -0000 Received: from chipsworld.llamas.net (chipper@206.98.157.232) by smtp-01.neosoft.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 14:38:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (chipper@localhost) by chipsworld.llamas.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09318 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:37:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:37:42 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Chiapusio To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Default boot to linux Message-ID: X-Files: Resist or serve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 264 Lines: 12 Is it possible to set the prom env variables such that linux would boot by default when the machine is powered on? Chipper ------ Please encrypt anything important. PGP Key: http://pgp.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6CFA486D From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 09:30:49 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA25852 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:30:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA83840 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:29:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA38037 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:29:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA08530 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:29:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (pool-209-138-178-237.ipls.grid.net [209.138.178.237]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA10144 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:29:34 GMT Message-ID: <36FBC35A.26AB8300@unidial.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:26:50 -0500 From: Alan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Kernel port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 460 Lines: 14 The "Goals" section on the www.linux.sgi.com web page states that the project would like to achieve "Ports to newer hardware like O2(TM), OCTANE(TM), and Origin(TM), and even to old hardware like R3000 Indigo(TM)." But wasn’t this written two years ago? How relevant is a port to the R3000 Indigo? If it is relevant and people are still interested, how could one acquire more detailed hardware specifications necessary for a port? Thanks - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 12:39:29 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA59883 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:39:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA68136 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:38:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA81844 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:38:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (parsons@norden1.com) Received: from oiss0001.owens-ill.com (oiss0001.owens-ill.com [204.242.198.81]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA18810 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:38:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (parsons@norden1.com) Received: from mfil.terminal (mfil@localhost) by oiss0001.owens-ill.com with SMTP id PAA20022 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from norden1.com (oipc1216.owens-ill.com [10.56.56.124]) by oiss0001.owens-ill.com with ESMTP id PAA19926 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:36:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:35:47 -0500 From: Jeremy Parsons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Port to R3000 Indigo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 270 Lines: 7 I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would some day be able to run Linux on it. Jeremy Parsons From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 13:42:11 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA66210 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA29950 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:41:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA60754 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flynnt@gate.net) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (chickasaw.gate.net [198.206.134.26]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA04536 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:41:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flynnt@gate.net) Received: from vulture (tskis2-33.gate.net [207.36.25.96]) by chickasaw.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA109210 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:40:10 -0500 From: tom Reply-To: flynnt@acm.org To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:46:20 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 909 Lines: 19 And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Jeremy Parsons wrote: > I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > some day be able to run Linux on it. > > Jeremy Parsons -- ______ / /| ,--------------------------------------------, // // /_____/ |...| "Lower your shields and Open your Source." | \X/ \X/ | | | `--------------------------------------------' 600 2000 | | | email: flynnt@acm.org P166+ Powered by |_____|/ URL : http://erau.db.erau.edu/~flynnt Linux From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 14:09:18 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA69202 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:09:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA17723 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA74448; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA31331; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903262208.OAA31331@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo To: flynnt@acm.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> from "tom" at Mar 26, 99 04:46:20 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 807 Lines: 22 As Linus use to say: talk is cheap, show me the code... ;-) It won't happen by itself, only if someone devotes serious time to it. My personal feeling is that Linux on R3000 will not happen (there are cheaper and faster old pentium 90's out there) but if someone builds it... I've been wrong before. : :And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to :grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). :Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( : :> I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 :> of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these :> was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would :> some day be able to run Linux on it. :> -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 14:32:54 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA71442 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:32:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA31034 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:32:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA11788; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:31:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (martin@jaleo.idecnet.com) Received: from maru (jaleo.idecnet.com [194.179.48.59]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id OAA01563; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:24:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (martin@jaleo.idecnet.com) Received: from jaleo.idecnet.com (nuucp@localhost) by maru (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via UUCP id WAA11153; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:14:45 GMT Received: from teta by jaleo.idecnet.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/930416.SGI) id WAA18079; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:21:01 GMT Received: from jaleo.idecnet.com by teta (950413.SGI.8.6.12) id WAA10660; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:21:01 GMT Message-ID: <36FC084C.52E747A5@jaleo.idecnet.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:21:01 +0000 From: Martin Mielke Organization: Jaleo Development Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <199903262208.OAA31331@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1792 Lines: 52 Ariel Faigon wrote: > As Linus use to say: talk is cheap, show me the code... ;-) > > It won't happen by itself, only if someone devotes serious > time to it. My personal feeling is that Linux on R3000 > will not happen (there are cheaper and faster old pentium 90's > out there) but if someone builds it... I've been wrong before. > > : > :And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to > :grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). > :Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( > : > :> I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > :> of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > :> was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > :> some day be able to run Linux on it. > :> > > -- > Peace, Ariel Hello, I'm new to this list, so please accept my apologies if this has been already addressed. Why porting it to the R3000? are there any big advantages in doing it? IMHO, it would be clever and nicer to port Linux to, at least, R5K and above. Are there any news on this issue?? what's the latest status? Thanks in advance! Best regards and have a good weekend, Martin -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Martin Mielke - SysAdmin Tel.: ++ 34 928 262299 c/. 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The guys who ported Linux to the DECstation with a R3000 showed it it possible to run Linux on a MIPS R3000. We probably need some docs with specifics of the Indigo to make it work (still not available?). Jurgen Kramer Jeremy Parsons wrote: > I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > some day be able to run Linux on it. > > Jeremy Parsons From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 16:46:19 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA78521 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:46:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA44443 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:07:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA96471 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1] (may be forged)) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA02420 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:07:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.4]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18522 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:07:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA04923; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:06:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19990327000627.M553@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:06:27 +0100 From: ralf@uni-koblenz.de To: Alan , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Kernel port References: <36FBC35A.26AB8300@unidial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <36FBC35A.26AB8300@unidial.com>; from Alan on Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 12:26:50PM -0500 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 845 Lines: 19 On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 12:26:50PM -0500, Alan wrote: > The "Goals" section on the www.linux.sgi.com web page states that the > project would like to achieve "Ports to newer hardware like O2(TM), > OCTANE(TM), and Origin(TM), and even to old hardware like R3000 > Indigo(TM)." > > But wasn’t this written two years ago? How relevant is a port to the > R3000 Indigo? If it is relevant and people are still interested, how > could one acquire more detailed hardware specifications necessary for a > port? Well, not everything works as planned. While in the meantime Linux has been ported to quite a number of new MIPS targets Linux has not yet been ported to the machines mentioned above. I however hope the SGI's recently announced commitment to Linux will also have some effect on the MIPS area and make above port come true :-) Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 15:40:17 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA77946 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA63645 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:38:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA59174; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:38:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA01182; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:38:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-14-73.ipls.grid.net [209.138.14.73]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA02477; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:38:10 GMT Message-ID: <36FC14FD.46F1279E@unidial.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:15:09 +0000 From: root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: "linux@engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <199903262208.OAA31331@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1269 Lines: 43 Ariel Faigon wrote: > As Linus use to say: talk is cheap, show me the code... ;-) As always! > > > It won't happen by itself, only if someone devotes serious > time to it. My personal feeling is that Linux on R3000 > will not happen (there are cheaper and faster old pentium 90's > out there) but if someone builds it... I've been wrong before. Are you saying that the effort necessary to port Linux to R3000 Indigo would be better placed elsewhere? > > > : > :And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to > :grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). > :Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( > : > :> I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > :> of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > :> was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > :> some day be able to run Linux on it. > :> > > -- > Peace, Ariel The final portion of my original question, is really the most important - are the hardware specifications/documentation available or are they considered proprietary? This issue alone is paramount since it substantially affects the "effort" necessary to port. Thanks - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 15:29:30 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA76361 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA45081 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA60171 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA07550 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:28:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:31:57 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10Qg1C-002OsqC; Sat, 27 Mar 99 00:28 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA03542 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:23:22 +0100 Message-ID: <19990327002321.A3539@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:23:21 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Help needed to solve SCSI problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 806 Lines: 18 I'm now total stuck with the remaining SCSI problem, and need some help. I have a really broken cdrom drive. With this cdrom I'm able produce a scsi timeout, which will cause a hang of the complete machine. I've traced the problem a little bit further, and detected, that I get interrupts on interrupt vector 0 (it's named VECTOR_GIO0 in the Irix header files). I always see 17 irq 0 then the machine hangs completly. Please, could someone tell what this interrupt means, so I can either solve it by servicing the interrupt the right way or avoid it by doing something else ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 15:50:54 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA78371 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:50:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA02003 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:49:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.90]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA52501; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:49:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA26663; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:49:32 -0800 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:49:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199903262349.PAA26663@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Help needed to solve SCSI problem In-Reply-To: <19990327002321.A3539@alpha.franken.de> References: <19990327002321.A3539@alpha.franken.de> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1058 Lines: 25 Thomas Bogendoerfer writes: > I'm now total stuck with the remaining SCSI problem, and need some help. > > I have a really broken cdrom drive. With this cdrom I'm able produce a > scsi timeout, which will cause a hang of the complete machine. I've > traced the problem a little bit further, and detected, that I get > interrupts on interrupt vector 0 (it's named VECTOR_GIO0 in the Irix > header files). I always see 17 irq 0 then the machine hangs completly. > > Please, could someone tell what this interrupt means, so I can either > solve it by servicing the interrupt the right way or avoid it by doing > something else ? I believe that is the two bits: #define EXTIO_HPC3_BUSERR 0x0010 #define EXTIO_SG_STAT_0 0x0001 HPC3_BUSERR means that the HPC3 got a bus error reading from memory. The driver is probably broken and giving bad commands to the HPC3. You should be able to find the error address in the GIO_ERR_ADDR register: #define GIO_ERR_ADDR 0x1fa000f4 /* GIO error address (w, ro) */ (0xbfa000f4 as a K1SEG address). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 15:54:24 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA78205 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:54:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA12862 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.90]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA71994; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:52:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA26675; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:52:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:52:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199903262352.PAA26675@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: Theodoros Nikitopoulos Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, s92035@math.aegean.gr Subject: Re: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo In-Reply-To: <36FC3841.71061373@hol.gr> References: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> <36FC3841.71061373@hol.gr> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1228 Lines: 26 Theodoros Nikitopoulos writes: > tom wrote: > > > And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to > > grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). > > Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( > > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Jeremy Parsons wrote: > > ? I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > > ? of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > > ? was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > > ? some day be able to run Linux on it. > > ? > > ? Jeremy Parsons > > -- > > > I have a feeling that someone hasn't any chance to port Linux in the O2 or > Indigo2 platform unless Sillicon Graphics wants too. In other words, by > giving a great deal of information in public for building the appropriate > drivers. Am I wrong about it ? So far, we (SGI) have only released Indy information. There is agreement in principle to release information about more systems, but it is getting hard to find Indigo R3000 documentation, except as IRIX source, and releasing that has additional complications, although not necessarily insurmountable ones. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 16:45:30 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA81231 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:45:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA77535 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA56260 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:44:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA07461 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:44:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:46:57 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10QhBl-002OssC; Sat, 27 Mar 99 01:43 MET Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA04196; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:39:18 +0100 Message-ID: <19990327013918.A4184@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:39:18 +0100 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: "William J. Earl" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Help needed to solve SCSI problem References: <19990327002321.A3539@alpha.franken.de> <199903262349.PAA26663@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903262349.PAA26663@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 03:49:32PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 779 Lines: 20 On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 03:49:32PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > #define EXTIO_HPC3_BUSERR 0x0010 > #define EXTIO_SG_STAT_0 0x0001 ahh, another register I didn't know. > HPC3_BUSERR means that the HPC3 got a bus error reading from memory. > The driver is probably broken and giving bad commands to the HPC3. > You should be able to find the error address in the GIO_ERR_ADDR register: I've checked the MC registers cstat, gstat, the HPC3 registers intstat, instat.bug, bus error and the extio register. All of them are zero. Any other idea ? Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 16:40:45 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA81230 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:40:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA95187 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:39:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA73631; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:39:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA24143; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:39:34 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903270039.QAA24143@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo To: neuroinc@unidial.com (root) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:39:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <36FC14FD.46F1279E@unidial.com> from "root" at Mar 26, 99 11:15:09 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 3172 Lines: 82 Alan Hoyt said: :> :> It won't happen by itself, only if someone devotes serious :> time to it. My personal feeling is that Linux on R3000 :> will not happen (there are cheaper and faster old pentium 90's :> out there) but if someone builds it... I've been wrong before. : :Are you saying that the effort necessary to port Linux to R3000 :Indigo would be better placed elsewhere? : [Obligatory Disclaimer: Everything I write below is personal views, no one appointed me to be an official SGI spokeperson] In a way yes ;-) For example, I personally would be much happier if the few people who have the ability to make such port a reality would devote their time on more attractive, newer machines. The real scarcity is in talent who can make things happen. There's no scarcity in people who just "want" things to happen and voice their wishes on various mailing lists. If we could get talent to get involved with the SGI Intel machines it would be IMHO more valuable; the reasons are simple: - We can leverage the thousands of precompiled PRMs out there rather than duplicating work - The installed base of these systems is expected to be much larger so the scarcity of talent with access to hardware would likely be less grave. - The performance and attractiveness of these machines is much higher. - Market realities: SGI as a company may be much more inclined to put resources on something that is not a dead product. and we have to realize that every response even on this friendly mailing list, is in the end paid for by SGI since people work on company time. There's some work going on (while no one was taking notice, the 2.2.4 kernel just got a /dev/fb implementation from Jeff Newquist) so we can have X11 (albeit unaccelerated) running on the SGI VisWS! People are welcome to look at the code and get involved, it is all completely open on www.linux.sgi.com (in the Intel section). Regarding MIPS, for similar reasons, having the Indy port 'finished' (it is not yet really easy to get up and running) or having support for O2s, seems (at least to me) to be much more attractive than R3000 Indigos. Again, It is not that I don't want it to happen. I'm just asking myself, what would I (and many others) prefer to put available talent energies on. If we don't set priorities, we run the risk of getting lost in multiple unfinished ports and dilute our efforts and end results. : :The final portion of my original question, is really the most :important - are the hardware specifications/documentation available :or are they considered proprietary? : :This issue alone is paramount since it substantially affects the "effort" :necessary to port. : I believe Bill Earl tried to locate some very old specs but couldn't find them (and he can correct me if I'm wrong). Indy specs were sent (sorry I only have paper versions) to those who have shown they are really serious and can make a difference and asked for them. The best source for older SGI machines data is at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html This is the best I could find on anything before my times at SGI... -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 15:47:58 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA78239 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:47:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA63028 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:47:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA56995 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:47:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tnik@hol.gr) Received: from mail.hol.gr (mail.hol.gr [194.30.192.21]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id PAA02853 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:46:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tnik@hol.gr) Received: (qmail 6496 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 23:44:25 -0000 Received: from async007.ath03.tlc.hol.gr (HELO hol.gr) (firewall-user@194.30.216.10) by mail.hol.gr with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 23:44:25 -0000 Message-ID: <36FC3841.71061373@hol.gr> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 03:45:38 +0200 From: Theodoros Nikitopoulos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.24 ppc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com CC: s92035@math.aegean.gr Subject: Re: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1291 Lines: 34 tom wrote: > And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to > grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). > Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( > > On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Jeremy Parsons wrote: > ? I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > ? of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > ? was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > ? some day be able to run Linux on it. > ? > ? Jeremy Parsons > -- I have a feeling that someone hasn't any chance to port Linux in the O2 or Indigo2 platform unless Sillicon Graphics wants too. In other words, by giving a great deal of information in public for building the appropriate drivers. Am I wrong about it ? By the way, SGI has officialy report to support Linux on visual workstations. Any ideas if they will also transfer the desktop enviroment commonly used in IRIX ? This seems to me very likely, in regards of providing a common user interface both in IRIX based systems and Linux based systems provided by SGI. That could be a great benefeat of the Linux community.. Personally I haven't find any Linux user interface more nicely crafted than SGI's 4DWM. Theodore . From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Mar 26 16:51:41 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA82268 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:51:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA63978 for linux-list; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:50:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA72497 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:50:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tau@cubicsky.com) Received: from kotetsu.cubicsky.com (kotetsu.cubicsky.com [208.207.21.114]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA01299 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:50:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (tau@cubicsky.com) Received: from cubicsky.com (jade.vlan1.cubicsky.com [192.168.1.3]) by kotetsu.cubicsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA34316 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:53:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tau@cubicsky.com) Message-ID: <36FC549B.3FF6607D@cubicsky.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:46:35 -0800 From: Steve Martin Organization: Axial X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> <36FC3841.71061373@hol.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 4835 Lines: 100 Theodoros Nikitopoulos wrote: > tom wrote: > > > And I know a group at KSC that's getting rid of a bunch of O2s. We'd love to > > grab them and make a nice little Beowulf cluster out of them :-). > > Unfortunately, we don't have the time at work to do a port :-( > > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Jeremy Parsons wrote: > > ? I think it would be very relevant. My company recently sold around 30 > > ? of the R3000 Indigo's. Just about every person who bought one of these > > ? was interested in the SGI/Linux project and wanted to know if they would > > ? some day be able to run Linux on it. > > ? > > ? Jeremy Parsons > > -- > > > I have a feeling that someone hasn't any chance to port Linux in the O2 or > Indigo2 platform unless Sillicon Graphics wants too. In other words, by > giving a great deal of information in public for building the appropriate > drivers. Am I wrong about it ? Well, regading the O2, several things come into factor if they were to release info: 1) They still support IRIX on the O2, and are still making money off of that. People that might get a new IRIX release or dev tools in the future might start using linux which would cost them money, and right now SGI can't afford to lose any money at all. 2) The O2 is still relatively new technology. The software algorithms behind the display mechanisms and such to support UMA and the various specialized components of the O2 are points of innovative technology, releasing source(or even detailed information about the processes used) to the public might not be a wise thing to do. 3) Linux could surpass IRIX on the O2 easily, because the IRIX implementation on the O2 is *crap*(relative to what I've seen on previous machines such as the Indy, Indigo2, Crimson, Indigo, etc..). It has more bugs regarding the graphics than I've seen since Windows 95 was first released. I ended up spending half my time trying to avoid getting kernel panics(note that in 6.3 things were bad, but in 6.5 things were better, although I had some problems with it and certain OpenGL applications. (I had posted about the bug with a picture and such in comp.sys.sgi.bugs a while back as well. An image of the screen is at http://www.cubicsky.com/~tau/_o2bug.jpeg). That was with running mere apps from the glut demo collection. I also noticed some considerable problems with 1600x1200@60hz(I wrote a vfo for that) although that is unsupported by SGI, and I can see why. Overall, I think Linux on the O2 would be a great thing, yet I wonder if it would be a wise business decision for SGI to support that at this time. I suppose that the O2 is a previous generation machine, but then I look at the VisualPC and see no real "workstation-calibur" software(regarding Windows NT), so perhaps the O2 is the newest low-end "true workstation" by SGI, and thus SGI may not want to release info on that. We could always run the IRIX kernel and all the graphics stuff through a dissassembler... :) ----Linux unrelated-- One unrelated sidenote that is a bug I've noticed both on the O2 and Indigo2(Elan). This is something you should try, run an app that uses glPixelZoom(such as "resolution" which is one of the things included with glut-3.7(I think)). Move the window to off the screen(but still showing some of the window area). Increase the zoom, and notice that the window goes blank(or displays multiple copies of the viewport within) on the Indigo2, or fills up the window with lots of trash on the O2. Is this a well known bug? (basically a problem with clipped glPixelZoom operations) ------------------ > > > By the way, SGI has officialy report to support Linux on visual > workstations. Any ideas if they will also transfer the desktop enviroment > commonly used in IRIX ? This seems to me very likely, in regards of > providing a common user interface both in IRIX based systems and Linux > based systems provided by SGI. That could be a great benefeat of the Linux > community.. > > Personally I haven't find any Linux user interface more nicely crafted > than SGI's 4DWM. Well, you could always try a gtk theme with gnome, and a 4Dwm enlightenment theme. I've wanted to see that, make all my PCs look like the Indigo Magic environment(hehe). I agree 4Dwm&Indigo Magic are pretty much the best there is, very innovative(introduced many things unseen as well thought out as they were in this before). Too bad I haven't seen much in that respect lately from SGI... (whatever happened to doing innovative things that changed computing like they used to?). I had given a guy on irc(efnet) some snapshots of some 4Dwm things as well as some desktop shots, because he was interested in doing an enlightenment theme to make his PCs look like 4Dwm, perhaps that'll happen. > > > Theodore . .. Steve Martin From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 28 07:58:59 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA71522 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:58:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA95761 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:58:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA79801 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:58:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA00206 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:58:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:01:21 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10RHvS-002OqWC; Sun, 28 Mar 99 17:56 MET DST Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id RAA01180; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:49:12 +0200 Message-ID: <19990328174912.A1163@alpha.franken.de> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:49:12 +0200 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Cc: wje@fir.engr.sgi.com Subject: SCSI problem nearly solved Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1029 Lines: 20 Ok, after letting the problem get some rest I figured out why I see those strange IRQ 0. There is a bug in the driver, which leads to enabling IRQ 0 instead of IRQ 1, when a scsi_abort() occurs. Easy fix, but only part of the problem. The lockup happened because of a bug in the generic wd33c93 driver part. If the command, which should be aborted, was at the head of the input queue, the driver messed up the input queue, which leads to a endless loop on the next abort. Solved ! Now the only remaining problem is, that the the wd93 reset code, isn't able to reset the bus, because the chip is busy (looks like it doesn't get ready again in that situation). I guess I have to use the HPC3 channel reset, but my first try to do it wasn't quite successful. I guess one of my next tries will succeed:-) Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Mar 28 15:30:38 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA91042 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:30:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA38209 for linux-list; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:29:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA67359 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:29:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA09396 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:29:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:34:35 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10ROzw-002Ox5C; Mon, 29 Mar 99 01:29 MET DST Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA03251 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:26:03 +0200 Message-ID: <19990329012602.A3227@alpha.franken.de> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:26:02 +0200 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New Indy kernel uploaded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 580 Lines: 14 After killing a lot of SCSI bugs during the last weeks, I've made a new kernel with all of the fixes in it. It also contains a workaround for the problem with hanging after "Freeing unused kernel memory". Everyone, who had problems with older kernels, please test this kernel. ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-2.2.1-990329.gz Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 29 07:47:46 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA40956 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA95087 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:46:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA87636 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:46:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA04099 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:46:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adelton@informatics.muni.cz) Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05790 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:46:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aisa.fi.muni.cz (aisa [147.251.48.1]) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01702 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:09:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from adelton@localhost) by aisa.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00691 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:09:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:09:51 +0200 From: Honza Pazdziora To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Address of PROMBLOCK on 64 bit systems Message-ID: <19990329170951.D11689@aisa.fi.muni.cz> References: <36FBEFA3.A6ADB8F0@norden1.com> <9903261648250V.04692@vulture> <36FC3841.71061373@hol.gr> <199903262352.PAA26675@fir.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199903262352.PAA26675@fir.engr.sgi.com>; from William J. Earl on Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 03:52:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 540 Lines: 11 Would anybody know what is the proper PROMBLOCK value for Origin200/R1000 systems and wherther it's still the same linux_promblock structure as with Indys? Is sucha kind of information available? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/ make vmlinux.exe -- SGI Visual Workstation Howto Any spam sent to my email will be rewarded by complaint to your ISP abuse team and abuse teams of servers that relayed that message. It works. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 29 16:03:37 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA00158 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA88536 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:02:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA51149; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:02:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA05795; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:02:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-13-143.ipls.grid.net [209.138.13.143]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA24298; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:01:20 GMT Message-ID: <37000EE1.6C336FD0@unidial.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:38:10 +0000 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon , "linux@engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <199903270039.QAA24143@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1601 Lines: 47 Ariel Faigon wrote: > Regarding MIPS, for similar reasons, having the Indy port 'finished' > (it is not yet really easy to get up and running) or having support > for O2s, seems (at least to me) to be much more attractive than > R3000 Indigos. > > Again, It is not that I don't want it to happen. I'm just > asking myself, what would I (and many others) prefer to put > available talent energies on. If we don't set priorities, > we run the risk of getting lost in multiple unfinished ports > and dilute our efforts and end results. > > ...
... > > I believe Bill Earl tried to locate some very old specs but > couldn't find them (and he can correct me if I'm wrong). Indy > specs were sent (sorry I only have paper versions) to those > who have shown they are really serious and can make a difference > and asked for them. The best source for older SGI machines > data is at: > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html > > This is the best I could find on anything before my times at SGI... > > -- > Peace, Ariel Two questions: Does this mean that you are going to be posting the hardware specifications for the Indigo 2, O2, etc.. (i.e. SGI's more recent systems) on your web server for public access, or will this information be disseminated through controlled channels? Also, if you are going to post the specs - when will they be available? Just curious, since HP publicly released some detailed hardware specs for their systems in PDF format to assist their Linux porting project - it's very nice. Thanks - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Mar 29 23:44:47 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA04903 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:44:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA07237 for linux-list; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:43:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA41040 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:43:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id XAA06874 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:43:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id JAA24885; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:43:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun168.eu (sun168.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16359; Tue, 30 Mar 99 09:43:16 +0200 Received: by sun168.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA15859; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:43:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:43:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199903300743.JAA15859@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New Indy kernel uploaded In-Reply-To: <19990329012602.A3227@alpha.franken.de> References: <19990329012602.A3227@alpha.franken.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 587 Lines: 16 Thomas Bogendoerfer writes: > After killing a lot of SCSI bugs during the last weeks, I've made a new > kernel with all of the fixes in it. It also contains a workaround > for the problem with hanging after "Freeing unused kernel memory". > > Everyone, who had problems with older kernels, please test this kernel. Yep, done. Works without problems - Linux is up and running. How do you solve the problems with the ECOFF/ELF thing ? Is there some kind of backwards-compatibility ? Thanx a lot :-))) If you need testing support for some more kernels simply drop a note. //Tom From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 00:53:52 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA05628 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:53:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA06420 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:53:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA33855; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:53:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA52093; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:53:03 -0800 (PST) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199903300853.AAA52093@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo To: neuroinc@unidial.com (Alan Hoyt) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:53:03 -0800 (PST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) In-Reply-To: <37000EE1.6C336FD0@unidial.com> from "Alan Hoyt" at Mar 29, 99 11:38:10 pm Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2106 Lines: 51 :Two questions: : :Does this mean that you are going to be posting the hardware specifications :for the Indigo 2, O2, etc.. (i.e. SGI's more recent systems) on your web :server for public access, or will this information be disseminated through :controlled channels? : :Also, if you are going to post the specs - when will they be available? : :Just curious, since HP publicly released some detailed hardware specs for :their systems in PDF format to assist their Linux porting project - it's very :nice. : :Thanks : : - Alan Hoyt - : Alan, I believe this was referred to by Bill Earl in an earlier post. Clearly, this needs further explanation. Since the interfaces with SGI proprietary hardware were never meant to be public, the only documentation you can really rely on to be accurate and reliable is the (working) IRIX source code. We would really like to avoid publishing material that's incomplete, outdated, and turns out to be more confusing than it is worth. Now, if it were entirely in my hands, I would have gladly published some source code. The problem is much more complex than that. The IRIX source code includes licensed code from many external commercial sources, AT&T SVR4, Sun, Xerox, etc. each surrounded by its own complex licensing terms, so the lawyers need to look into this lest SGI becomes liable by just making some "innocent goodwill" happen. I know it sounds lame, and I as much as anyone, hate this, but this is reality, and it isn't simple as it may appear to some. It requires a lot of legal (inspection and clearance) + engineering (sanitize and clean up code) time which I'm not sure we can afford on a global scale. The good news is that SGI is clearly putting much more emphasis these days on developing hardware that is much more standard and opening more and more source code (after legal has looked into it and approved it). Everything we have been doing in the past year on the Linux front makes this clear that this is where we're going. I would like to request a bit of patience and support... You are preaching to the choir here. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 07:53:29 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA09296 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:53:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA44780 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:52:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA36799; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:52:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA01076; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:52:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-15-39.ipls.grid.net [209.138.15.39]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA11443; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:52:15 GMT Message-ID: <3700EDC0.29E677A4@unidial.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:29:04 +0000 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon , "linux@engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <199903300853.AAA52093@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2120 Lines: 48 Ariel Faigon wrote: > I believe this was referred to by Bill Earl in an earlier post. > Clearly, this needs further explanation. > > Since the interfaces with SGI proprietary hardware were never meant > to be public, the only documentation you can really rely on to be > accurate and reliable is the (working) IRIX source code. We would really > like to avoid publishing material that's incomplete, outdated, and > turns out to be more confusing than it is worth. > > Now, if it were entirely in my hands, I would have gladly published > some source code. The problem is much more complex than that. The > IRIX source code includes licensed code from many external commercial > sources, AT&T SVR4, Sun, Xerox, etc. each surrounded by its own complex > licensing terms, so the lawyers need to look into this lest SGI > becomes liable by just making some "innocent goodwill" happen. > > I know it sounds lame, and I as much as anyone, hate this, but > this is reality, and it isn't simple as it may appear to some. > It requires a lot of legal (inspection and clearance) + engineering > (sanitize and clean up code) time which I'm not sure we can afford > on a global scale. > > The good news is that SGI is clearly putting much more emphasis > these days on developing hardware that is much more standard > and opening more and more source code (after legal has looked into > it and approved it). Everything we have been doing in the past > year on the Linux front makes this clear that this is where we're > going. I would like to request a bit of patience and support... > You are preaching to the choir here. > > -- > Peace, Ariel One last question: I have an old Indigo and Indigo 2 - I am very interested and very serious about porting Linux to one of these systems. However, without detailed hardware specs. a very difficult job becomes much much harder. Can you throw a dog a bone? Are there any hardware specs. (NOT source code) that you are willing and/or capable of providing at this time to get the ball rolling- without further delays perpetrated by your legal department? Thanks - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 14:32:40 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA28069 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:32:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA92736 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA87874 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:31:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (sgi.com!rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA06770 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (rachael.franken.de!hub-fue!alpha.franken.de!tsbogend) Received: from hub-fue by rachael.franken.de via rmail with uucp id for cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!linux; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:36:52 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Received: by hub-fue.franken.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #35) id m10S72C-002P4TC; Wed, 31 Mar 99 00:31 MET DST Received: (from tsbogend@localhost) by alpha.franken.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA03069; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:51:35 +0200 Message-ID: <19990330235135.A2991@alpha.franken.de> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:51:35 +0200 From: Thomas Bogendoerfer To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New Indy kernel uploaded References: <19990329012602.A3227@alpha.franken.de> <199903300743.JAA15859@sun168.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903300743.JAA15859@sun168.eu>; from Tom Woelfel on Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 09:43:16AM +0200 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 591 Lines: 14 On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 09:43:16AM +0200, Tom Woelfel wrote: > Yep, done. Works without problems - Linux is up and running. How do > you solve the problems with the ECOFF/ELF thing ? Is there some kind > of backwards-compatibility ? yes, every newer PROM is also able to boot ECOFF kernels. So I just uploaded an ECOFF kernel, which should work with every PROM. Thomas. -- This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-| It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^) [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel] From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 16:29:40 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA48749 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:29:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA58470 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:28:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA41050; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:28:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA07146; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:27:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (pool-209-138-12-168.ipls.grid.net [209.138.12.168]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA13354; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:27:29 GMT Message-ID: <37016B61.5AC93288@unidial.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:25:05 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2123 Lines: 57 Ariel Faigon wrote: > I believe this was referred to by Bill Earl in an earlier post. > Clearly, this needs further explanation. > > Since the interfaces with SGI proprietary hardware were never meant > to be public, the only documentation you can really rely on to be > accurate and reliable is the (working) IRIX source code. We would really > like to avoid publishing material that's incomplete, outdated, and > turns out to be more confusing than it is worth. > > Now, if it were entirely in my hands, I would have gladly published > some source code. The problem is much more complex than that. The > IRIX source code includes licensed code from many external commercial > sources, AT&T SVR4, Sun, Xerox, etc. each surrounded by its own complex > licensing terms, so the lawyers need to look into this lest SGI > becomes liable by just making some "innocent goodwill" happen. > > I know it sounds lame, and I as much as anyone, hate this, but > this is reality, and it isn't simple as it may appear to some. > It requires a lot of legal (inspection and clearance) + engineering > (sanitize and clean up code) time which I'm not sure we can afford > on a global scale. > > The good news is that SGI is clearly putting much more emphasis > these days on developing hardware that is much more standard > and opening more and more source code (after legal has looked into > it and approved it). Everything we have been doing in the past > year on the Linux front makes this clear that this is where we're > going. I would like to request a bit of patience and support... > You are preaching to the choir here. > > -- > Peace, Ariel One last question: I have an old Indigo and Indigo 2 - I am very interested and very serious about porting Linux to one of these systems. However, without detailed hardware specs. a very difficult job becomes much much harder. Can you throw a dog a bone? Are there any hardware specs. (NOT source code) that you are willing and/or capable of providing at this time to get the ball rolling - without further delays perpetrated by your legal department? Thanks - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 17:47:47 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA56177 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA52686 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:45:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA55642; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:45:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (asnmaz01@asc.edu) Received: from vera.dpo.uab.edu (Vera.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA02988; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:45:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (asnmaz01@asc.edu) Received: from asc.edu (138.26.15.137) by vera.dpo.uab.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.6D35D810@vera.dpo.uab.edu>; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:35:11 -0600 Message-ID: <37017BA5.160B97BD@asc.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:34:29 -0600 From: "Mark A. Zottola" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Hoyt CC: Ariel Faigon , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <37016B61.5AC93288@unidial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1612 Lines: 48 I would like to second Alan's request. Our port of LINUX to the Indigo2 has ground to an unceremonious halt for a lack of hardware documentation. I understand that there are legal considerations. Would it not be possible to release the documentation under some sort of non-disclosure agreement? As we are writing code, if we do not : 1) include specific citations of the documentation within the comments, or 2) discuss those hardware matters deemed as proprietary within the comments then it seems we could be able to satisfy any non-disclosure agreement SGI would have while working under the disclosure constraint of the LINUX's GPL. It seems there is an eminently workable way around this if reasonable people can come together to discuss this reasonably. Anyway, that's my naive 2 cents worth. Mark Alan Hoyt wrote: > > > I have an old Indigo and Indigo 2 - I am very interested and very > serious about > porting Linux to one of these systems. However, without detailed > hardware specs. > a very difficult job becomes much much harder. Can you throw a dog a > bone? Are > there any hardware specs. (NOT source code) that you are willing and/or > capable > of providing at this time to get the ball rolling - without further > delays > perpetrated by your legal department? > > Thanks > > - Alan Hoyt - -- ********* Mark A. Zottola Alabama Research and Education Network 119 Rust Research Center Nichols Research Corporation University of Alabama-Birmingham VOICE: (205) 934-3893 Birmingham, AL 35294 EMAIL: asnmaz01@csimail.asc.edu From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Mar 30 18:35:18 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA93043 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:35:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA15949 for linux-list; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:33:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from fir.engr.sgi.com (fir.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.90]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id SAA86499; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:33:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@fir.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by fir.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA17826; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:33:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:33:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199903310233.SAA17826@fir.engr.sgi.com> From: "William J. Earl" To: "Mark A. Zottola" Cc: Alan Hoyt , Ariel Faigon , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo In-Reply-To: <37017BA5.160B97BD@asc.edu> References: <37016B61.5AC93288@unidial.com> <37017BA5.160B97BD@asc.edu> Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1339 Lines: 25 Mark A. Zottola writes: > > I would like to second Alan's request. Our port of LINUX to the Indigo2 has > ground to an unceremonious halt for a lack of hardware documentation. I > understand that there are legal considerations. Would it not be possible to > release the documentation under some sort of non-disclosure agreement? As > we are writing code, if we do not : > > 1) include specific citations of the documentation within the comments, or > 2) discuss those hardware matters deemed as proprietary within the comments > > then it seems we could be able to satisfy any non-disclosure agreement SGI > would have while working under the disclosure constraint of the LINUX's > GPL. It seems there is an eminently workable way around this if reasonable > people can come together to discuss this reasonably. ... For serious developers, we can definitely provide the Indy documentation, which covers quite a bit of Indigo R4000 and Indigo2, although there are differences in some places, notably due to those machines using an earlier revision of the I/O controller (HPC). We are still working on getting a more general policy on release of documentation, including selected bits of low-level IRIX code (at least where license issues do not arise). The Indy situation was a special case, done some time ago. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 31 07:22:50 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA72968 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:22:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA67998 for linux-list; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:20:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA56327 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:20:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA08674; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:20:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <37023B47.3BF5B566@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:12:07 -0800 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@detroit.sgi.com Organization: SGI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, mdlug@collie.net, linux-speakers@corp.sgi.com Subject: Salon 21st | Martin Luther, meet Linus Torvalds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 274 Lines: 7 Greetings! I would like to thank Mark Wagnon from EarthLink, http://earthwood.frazmtn.com/ for pointing me towards this article. I always knew my love affair with Linux would turn into a holy war someday... http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/feature/1998/11/12feature.html From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Mar 31 08:20:45 1999 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA68885 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:20:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA81095 for linux-list; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA10101; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-47.netscape.com [205.217.237.47]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA09171; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (shaver@netscape.com) Received: from tintin.mcom.com (tintin.mcom.com [205.217.233.42]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09057; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.243.67]) by tintin.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.03) with ESMTP id F9GW0N00.PEM; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:19:35 -0800 Message-ID: <37024AC1.AE5D79E9@netscape.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:18:09 -0500 From: Mike Shaver Organization: mozilla.org diplomatic corps X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3-5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: Alan Hoyt , SGI/Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Port to R3000 Indigo References: <199903300853.AAA52093@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 2226 Lines: 45 Ariel Faigon wrote: > Now, if it were entirely in my hands, I would have gladly published > some source code. The problem is much more complex than that. The > IRIX source code includes licensed code from many external commercial > sources, AT&T SVR4, Sun, Xerox, etc. each surrounded by its own complex > licensing terms, so the lawyers need to look into this lest SGI > becomes liable by just making some "innocent goodwill" happen. > > I know it sounds lame, and I as much as anyone, hate this, but > this is reality, and it isn't simple as it may appear to some. > It requires a lot of legal (inspection and clearance) + engineering > (sanitize and clean up code) time which I'm not sure we can afford > on a global scale. Just to leap unnecessarily to Ariel's defense, I'll tell you that once _all_ of Netscape, from Jim Barksdale on down, had decided to release the source to Communicator, it tooks 3 months of about 70 engineers to clean it up fully. That meant removing code that had crypto elements and code that was licensed from other companies. Communicator is a 4-year-old product. There are (well, were) still people around who were a part of just about every deal that put code in there, and could tell you where all but about 15 lines came from. Now, we have people at Netscape (excuse me, AOL) who left SGI 8 years ago, and still have code in the IRIX kernel[*]. The effort required to sanitize the IRIX kernel and X server and the like would surely eclipse our experiences. No Small Task. It is quite pointless, IMHO, to rail at Ariel about this; he and his band of merry men have been fighting the good fight within SGI for years, long before it was cool for a Unix company to do Linux. If you really want to help, I think the best thing to do is flank SGI: make sure that the sales and marketing folk know that SGI's support for Linux on their older hardware is significant to you as a once-and-future customer. (Where they should certainly be led to interpret ``significant'' as ``affecting future purchasing decisions''.) If you have friends on the board of SGI, maybe give them a call too. =) [*] grep XXXbe /usr/include/sys/*.h; that's brendan@mozilla.org. Mike -- 588472.19 72598.35