From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 2 15:30:03 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13536 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:29:51 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA04430; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA54655 for linux-list; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:13:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA79225 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:13:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA00309 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:13:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from mdk187.tucc.uab.edu (mdk187.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.201]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09087 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:13:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:11:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@mdk187.tucc.uab.edu To: Linux SGI Subject: Re: patch to support the EISA bus on the Indigo2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 235 Lines: 7 Since I have not received any feedback on my (E)ISA patch, I am going to assume everyone likes it and will incorporate it into the 2.2 branch on Monday. I will alos move it over to 2.3 and (if it works) submit that as well. -Andrew From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 3 10:23:16 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26526 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:22:51 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA06475; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:20:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA63364 for linux-list; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:12:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA92159 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (zeno@holmes.nl) Received: from holmes.holmes.nl (holmes.holmes.nl [194.229.145.97]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA08157 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:12:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (zeno@holmes.nl) From: zeno@holmes.nl Received: from theta.holmes.nl (theta.holmes.nl [10.5.0.12]) by holmes.holmes.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1D13878 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:22:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by theta.holmes.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:56:52 +0200 Message-ID: To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Problem Red Hat 6.0 / SGI 540 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:56:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 910 Lines: 33 Hi, I tried to install the Red Hat 6.0 by the rules that are given on http://www.linux.sgi.com/intel, however it did not work out. The first floppy did not boot properly. After this I followed the suggestion of booting with larc.exe, however the boot was not succesful. WIth larc.exe the next messages are displayed : OSLoadPartition : multi(0)disk(0)fdisk(0)partition(1) OSLoadFileName : /la2210.vw OSLOadScript : root=/dev/fd0 load_ramdisk=1 ARC opening multi(0)disk(0)fdisk(0)partition(1)la2210.vw ARC reading 52 bytes at offset 0 then it read the floppy forever. My Hardware Inventory : SGI_ARCx86_mp dual processor 500 Mhz x86 Family 6, Model 7, STepring 2 (1024 L2 Cache) Firmware 1.006 Memory 2048 MB Display Cobalt Graphics Network Intel 82257 USB Keyboard / Mouse with Raid QL 4 QL 1080 SCSI 2 - disks Thanks in advance for any suggestions to install Linux on this system. Best regards, Zeno From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 13 09:49:41 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23107 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:49:38 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA28168; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:44:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA91538 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:36:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA81209 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:36:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oeser@darmstadt.gmd.de) Received: from sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de (sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de [141.12.62.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA07276 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:35:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (oeser@darmstadt.gmd.de) Received: from darmstadt.gmd.de (VaX@pc-dime [141.12.60.3]) by sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04146 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:35:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37DCA99A.721092F@darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:36:58 +0200 From: Jens Oeser X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux SGI Subject: Booting linux from sgi indy. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 568 Lines: 16 Hi! How can i cause an indy to boot linux automatically, the bootloader seems to drop that root=/dev/... parameter. Is there a way to boot without having an irix running? The most unusual way would be to build a 20mb efs partition for some kernels and mount it at another sgi, to copy over new kernels, but that won't be the solutions i'm looking for. Is there a way to use the sound processor and/or the indycam? It would be very kind if someone helps me. regards Jens Oeser. Apprentice for IT-Systemelectronics @ GMD - Research centre for information technology. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 13 15:29:12 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15447 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:29:03 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA09409; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:23:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA48858 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:17:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA66452 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:17:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA03258 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:17:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from mdk187.tucc.uab.edu (mdk187.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.201]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA29081; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:16:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:14:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@mdk187.tucc.uab.edu To: Jens Oeser cc: Linux SGI Subject: Re: Booting linux from sgi indy. In-Reply-To: <37DCA99A.721092F@darmstadt.gmd.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1036 Lines: 29 On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Jens Oeser wrote: > How can i cause an indy to boot linux automatically, the bootloader > seems to drop that root=/dev/... parameter. > Is there a way to boot without having an irix running? The most unusual > way would be to build a 20mb efs partition for some kernels and mount it > at another sgi, to copy over new kernels, but that won't be the > solutions i'm looking for. I have managed to get my Indigo2s to boot by themselves (actually with the help of a bootp/tftp server). I modified init/main.c like so: static struct kernel_param raw_params[] __initdata = { + { "OSLoadOptions=", root_dev_setup }, { "root=", root_dev_setup }, Then, at the boot prom prompt, I typed: setenv -p OSLoadOptions /dev/sda1 This string is passed by bootp into the loaded kernel and everything boots up without any user intervention. Personally, I would like to have a better way to do this, but this works for me, and I haven't found any drawbacks except needing to add on line to kernel code. -Andrew From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 16 23:02:59 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16475 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:02:56 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA07712; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:59:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA24347 for linux-list; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA12352 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:49:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA04556 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:49:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-68.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA28919 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:49:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E159C8.4CE49EF@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:57:44 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: about the O2.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 308 Lines: 13 Hi, I recently got my (i.e. the company) hands on a second hand O2, and needless to say the thought of sticking Linux on it came immediatly to mind... I've read the status report on the site, and I was wondering if there exists a more detailed lowdown on the current state of play? Cheers, Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 17 18:04:21 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA30451 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:04:19 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA09523; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA01534 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:42:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA90541 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:42:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA05264 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:42:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA01795 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satanas (lyon-fw1-serial [194.51.122.30]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA09884 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00da01bf0124$198796b0$0228a8c0@satanas> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Bug in Indy serial driver? Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:48:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 35 In trying to use remote gdb targets, I came across a problem with the Indy serial driver. I'm running 2.2.12, but the driver and line discipline code are unchanged from 2.2.10. If one turns off output postprocessing via ioctl, or simply with an stty -opost < /dev/ttyS0, writes to the device succeed, but the data is never sent. A close of the device will then hang for a 30 second timeout, but the data isn't flushed then, either. The line discipline follows a different code path in the O_POST case than in the no-opost case, and it looked to me as if perhaps things were working in the O_POST case simply because there are more explicit flushes being performed, as the restart of the transmitter in ns_write is conditional on a status that may never be satisfied. I removed that condition, but this has no effect on the behaviour. Has anyone else seen this, or better still, fixed it? It's possible that the bug is in n_tty.c itself, but as that is generic to all Linux serial ports, I would be rather surprised if it had not been found and fixed long ago. Regards, Kevin K. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 17 22:08:08 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07809 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:08:06 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA14289; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:02:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA91262 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA51782 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA02387 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:56:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-110.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.110]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA02976; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:56:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E29EBF.FA10420D@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:04:15 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: about the O2.. References: <37E159C8.4CE49EF@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2166 Lines: 44 Hi, Here's something to amuse you in the meantime:- Being an IRIX newbie, more used to RH linux, upon encountering an install of IRIX 6.3 (and a decidedly stale one at that), I naturally went about trying to impose order opon the chaos and tried to make the filesystem layout etc. more like the linux server's. Copious Fear and Loathing was forthcoming upon discovering than /bin was nothing more than a symbolic link, and that most of the system utils were in /sbin. After eventually getting a bash shell onto the box (by ftp'ing onto it as root, no less), a struggle in itself, I was told by the gee-whizz GUI sysadmin tool that I wasn't allowed to change root's home directory (a quick hack of /etc/passwd soon fixed that). Then I thought that it would be nice to rearrange the system utilities ala linux... no such luck, those bloody symlinks confused me to the point where I managed to toast 'ls'. Stop and think. How many times in a day do you use 'ls'? Scary isn't it... the only way to view files now is using the point-and-drool icon interface. It get's better though; we don't have any install disks, since we got it second hand at a dodgy auction, so I had to download a .tardist file with the utilites (like I did with bash, though it took my a *litle* while to work out that a tardist was like an rpm). Then of course I attempted to install, only to discover that the GUI tool and tool that said GUI tool uses die screaming in the absence of 'ls'... go work it out, it's not pretty. So now we've got to (gasp) buy a distribution of IRIX, which costs no less that 260 UKP, with P+P costing a further 30 UKP... I feel decidedly withered by the whole experience, so much so that if I had my way I'd probably install Hard Hat on it, X or no X. Which would almost be a shame, since the mouse and monitor are rather nice. Well, at least the keyboard has some decent weight behind it, something of a rarity these days it seems (Edinburgh Uni have some great, and proper UNIX, keyboard in some places, you know, keyboards you could wield two-handed as viscious weapons). Oh, and Photoshop costs $995 dollars for UNIX . Happy hacking, Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 17 23:16:44 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19187 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:16:42 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA07239; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:12:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA08953 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12236 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:03:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA06846 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:03:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.14]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16646 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:03:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06535; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:29:29 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:29:29 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Dave Airlie Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS 2.3.9 kernel Message-ID: <19990917222929.D6143@uni-koblenz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from Dave Airlie on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 05:44:00PM +0100 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 393 Lines: 11 On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 05:44:00PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > What is the current CVS status? I'm trying to compile it up for a > DS5000/200 R3000 box, At link time I'm getting undefined symbols to do > with emergency_sync ... Since Harald's recent changes things don't compile anymore, not even for an Indy. I'm going to undo them until things are sorted out in a working manor. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 17 23:19:35 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19252 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:19:32 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA00177; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:13:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA56980 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:04:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14258; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA58099; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:04:21 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199909172104.OAA58099@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: about the O2.. To: roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Rory Hunter) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) In-Reply-To: <37E29EBF.FA10420D@dcs.ed.ac.uk> from "Rory Hunter" at Sep 17, 99 09:04:15 pm Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 936 Lines: 33 Rory Hunter mused: : :Hi, : :Here's something to amuse you in the meantime:- : :Being an IRIX newbie, more used to RH linux, upon encountering an :install of IRIX 6.3 (and a decidedly stale one at that), I naturally :went about trying to impose order opon the chaos and tried to make the :filesystem layout etc. more like the linux server's. : Big mistake :-) Anyway, just so you (and others) know in case you don't... You can get a more Linux/FreeBSD friendly env on IRIX by simply installing all the mandatory GNU utils and other popular free software stuff for IRIX. This can be done using some cliking (install via the web) on the site: http://freeware.sgi.com/ and finally putting /usr/freeware/bin first in your path. There's a 'fixpath' script that does this and more for you. Pretty clean, doesn't interfere with IRIX apps and work pretty well for thousands of SGI customers. : :Happy hacking, : Cheers. -- Peace, Ariel From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 02:16:14 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA25399 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 02:16:11 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA05294; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:13:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA71349 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:03:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA63333; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA04920; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-123.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.123]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA13375; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:03:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E2D8C0.CD183739@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:11:44 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ariel Faigon CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: about the O2.. References: <199909172104.OAA58099@oz.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 608 Lines: 21 Hi, > Pretty clean, doesn't interfere with IRIX apps and work > pretty well for thousands of SGI customers. That's all good and well, except the software that installs these damn things appears to require 'ls' (since it's usually a reasonable assumption that it'll be there). I tried to install the necessary tardist but the program screamed and died. I would have expected the installer to be more independant, in case IRIX newbies (like moi) fuck up so badly. I still prefer Linux >:)) Rory Hunter "SunOS or IRIX? It's a bit like a choice between warm beer or dying of thirst, either way you lose." From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 02:16:21 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA25404 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 02:16:19 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA02888; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:13:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA74562 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:05:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA41055 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:05:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA02560 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:05:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-123.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.123]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA13471 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:05:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E2D941.4410F25@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:13:53 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: grumph Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 93 Lines: 7 Hi, Please enlighten me, is it standard practice under IRIX to have /bin as a symlink? RH From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 04:16:40 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA13312 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:16:39 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA08504; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:06:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA99388 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:00:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.92]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA55000; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:00:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id TAA03150; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:00:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14306.62016.387993.940148@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:00:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Rory Hunter CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: grumph In-Reply-To: <37E2D941.4410F25@dcs.ed.ac.uk> References: <37E2D941.4410F25@dcs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 322 Lines: 9 Rory Hunter writes: > Hi, > > Please enlighten me, is it standard practice under > IRIX to have /bin as a symlink? Yes. Since the standard IRIX installation combines root and /usr, /bin points to /usr/bin and /usr/bin contains most of the usual commands (or symlinks to commands) used by non-privileged users. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 05:57:51 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA00319 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:57:49 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA03835; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:54:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA31373 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:49:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA17381; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:49:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA15203; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cx1.detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA03791; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from detroit.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cx1.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA28756; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37E30B8D.4A946727@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:48:29 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@sgi.com Organization: sgi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rory Hunter CC: Ariel Faigon , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: about the O2.. References: <199909172104.OAA58099@oz.engr.sgi.com> <37E2D8C0.CD183739@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1905 Lines: 61 Rory Hunter wrote: > > Hi, > > > Pretty clean, doesn't interfere with IRIX apps and work > > pretty well for thousands of SGI customers. > > That's all good and well, except the software that installs > these damn things appears to require 'ls' (since it's usually > a reasonable assumption that it'll be there). I tried to > install the necessary tardist but the program screamed and > died. > > I would have expected the installer to be more independant, > in case IRIX newbies (like moi) fuck up so badly. > > I still prefer Linux >:)) > > Rory Hunter > > "SunOS or IRIX? It's a bit like a choice between > warm beer or dying of thirst, either way you lose." Rory, 1: a tardist file is justa tared inst distribution. move it to a directory, cd to directory tar xvf filename.tardist then, as root, run the command "inst -f ." k * i d conf l i check that it is installing everything you like go quit inst is the command line version of softwaremanager Personally, I wish Linux would convert to the IRIX filesystem layout. I prefer IRIX to Linux, but then its going to be a while before the power of IRIX is available within Linux. Please let me know if I can give you a hand with your IRIX system. I strongly suggest at IRIX 6.3 you go get the entire 6.3 recommended patchset and get it installed yesterday. You will see a great improvement in how the entire system functions. Take a look at http://support.sgi.com and click on New Membership if you don't already have a surfzone ID. Good Luck! Eric. -- .--------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7. Eric Kimminau eak@sgi.com Electronic Support Tools Vox:248-848-4455 Fax:248-848-5600 VNET:6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up..." http://support.sgi.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 12:36:24 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07099 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:36:22 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA05408; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:33:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA17295 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:26:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA06434 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:26:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA04377 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:26:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-115.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.115]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15453 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:26:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E36AA1.13A35804@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:34:09 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Ooops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1075 Lines: 36 Hi all, 1. I didn't mean to sound as if I were advocating one over the other, sorry about that (though given half a chance...). 2. Ta for the install advice, should help loads. 3. The whole debacle with the O2 is dodgy from start to finish, it wasn't bought new, but rather at auction after a software comapny went bust. Consequently, we have no backup copies of anything >:)). There's the possibility that we might buy a dist. of 6.5.5, though it's pretty steep. Mind you, if there genuinely is a stand alone installer, I should be able to get the box back in reasonable shape. Having said that, since it's a second hand box, it'd be nice to do a fresh install, whereby I know that everything is as it should be. 4. At the risk of offending others (for which I apologise), my personal belief is that having /bin as a symbolic link is beyond contempt, IMHO. Ah well, I suppose I'll just have to fix it and like it. Cheers, Rory Hunter BTW, anyone have any experience with the Enlightenment SGI install? i.e. does it actually work? >:)) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 18 19:12:47 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07976 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:12:45 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA12673; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:08:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA04412 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA07744; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA06610; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02335; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:02:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12455; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:44:36 +0200 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:44:36 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: eak@sgi.com Cc: Rory Hunter , Ariel Faigon , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: about the O2.. Message-ID: <19990918134435.A12208@uni-koblenz.de> References: <199909172104.OAA58099@oz.engr.sgi.com> <37E2D8C0.CD183739@dcs.ed.ac.uk> <37E30B8D.4A946727@detroit.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <37E30B8D.4A946727@detroit.sgi.com>; from Eric Kimminau on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:48:29PM -0400 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 622 Lines: 16 On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:48:29PM -0400, Eric Kimminau wrote: > Personally, I wish Linux would convert to the IRIX filesystem layout. Imho the worst problems Linux's filesystem layout has is that it's limiting various functionality like diskless clients sharing all the their sharable parts of their filesystems. > I prefer IRIX to Linux, but then its going to be a while before the > power of IRIX is available within Linux. IRIX may be powerful but like about every SysV derived UNIX it traded power against userfriendlyness. Even though imho IRIX is definately better than it's competition at that point. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 00:56:50 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04260 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:56:49 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA08986; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:52:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA89069 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:43:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA59586 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA05597 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:42:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-124.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.124]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28891 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:42:53 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:50:58 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: oddness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 263 Lines: 10 hi, I noticed yesteday that it appears that a partition has been set aside by the previous owners of my O2 for /proc... assuming that 'df' isn't lying to me, can anyone think of a reason why an 800Mb partition would be set aside for /proc? Cheers, Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 01:22:07 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06046 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:22:05 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA07369; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA05521 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:11:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from soyuz.wellington.sgi.com (soyuz.wellington.sgi.com [134.14.64.194]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA98101 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:11:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alambie@csd.sgi.com) Received: from csd.sgi.com by soyuz.wellington.sgi.com via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) id LAA34872; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:11:41 +1200 (NZT) Message-ID: <37E96210.64A50BBF@csd.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:11:12 +1200 From: Alistair Lambie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rory Hunter CC: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: oddness References: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 873 Lines: 23 Rory Hunter wrote: > > hi, > > I noticed yesteday that it appears that a partition has been set aside > by the previous owners of my O2 for /proc... assuming that 'df' isn't > lying to me, can anyone think of a reason why an 800Mb partition would > be set aside for /proc? > No, this is not really a partition. See the man page for proc(4). It provides an image of each active process on the system. It does not consume any disk resources. Cheers, Alistair -- Alistair Lambie alambie@csd.sgi.com SGI Global Product Support SGI Voicemail/VNET: 234-1455 Level 5, Cigna House, M/S: INZ-3780 PO Box 24 093, Ph: +64-4-494 6325 40 Mercer St, Wellington, Fax: +64-4-494 6321 New Zealand Mobile: +64-21-635 262 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 01:24:06 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06083 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:24:04 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA12988; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:20:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA03622 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:16:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.92]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA98592; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:16:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA17900; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:16:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14313.25434.334444.31793@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:16:42 -0700 (PDT) To: Rory Hunter Cc: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: oddness In-Reply-To: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> References: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 498 Lines: 11 Rory Hunter writes: > hi, > > I noticed yesteday that it appears that a partition has been set aside > by the previous owners of my O2 for /proc... assuming that 'df' isn't > lying to me, can anyone think of a reason why an 800Mb partition would > be set aside for /proc? As on Linux, /proc is not a real file system. On IRIX, the size of /proc is roughly the maximum amount of virtual space available (including swap space), and the space used is the amount of virtual space in use. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 06:00:24 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA30354 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:00:23 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA10328; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:56:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA98185 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:51:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA91104 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:51:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA27527; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cx1.detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA14529; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from detroit.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cx1.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA45243; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37E9A391.1BF899DE@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:50:41 -0400 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@sgi.com Organization: sgi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rory Hunter CC: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: oddness References: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 794 Lines: 24 Rory Hunter wrote: > > hi, > > I noticed yesteday that it appears that a partition has been set aside > by the previous owners of my O2 for /proc... assuming that 'df' isn't > lying to me, can anyone think of a reason why an 800Mb partition would > be set aside for /proc? > > Cheers, > > Rory Hunter proc is your process table - it isn't taking file system space. pretent it doesnt exist. Ignore it. Its "kernel stuff" -- .--------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7. Eric Kimminau eak@sgi.com Electronic Support Tools Vox:248-848-4455 Fax:248-848-5600 VNET:6-327-4455 "I speak my mind and no one else's." "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up..." http://support.sgi.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 09:19:50 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30527 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:19:43 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA26164; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:13:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA01490 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:08:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA18019 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:08:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA02992 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:08:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (roryh@dcs.ed.ac.uk) Received: from dcs.ed.ac.uk (rory@dialup-111.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.111]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29605 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:08:16 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E9D3C8.F665545A@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:16:24 +0100 From: Rory Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: oddness References: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> <37E96210.64A50BBF@csd.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 203 Lines: 9 Hi, I know the proc is virtual, but it puzzled me that 'df' should list it when linux doesn't... if I can confirm that the partition itself is virtual then I'll happliy ignore it. Cheers, Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 09:37:02 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31944 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:36:53 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA06866; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA24605 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:29:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA44436 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:29:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sparker@taz.cs.utah.edu) Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA00517 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:29:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sparker@taz.cs.utah.edu) Received: from taz.cs.utah.edu (taz.cs.utah.edu [155.99.203.51]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10067; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by taz.cs.utah.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/utah-2.15sun-leaf) id BAA765517; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:29:02 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:29:02 -0600 From: sparker@taz.cs.utah.edu (Steven G. Parker) Message-Id: <9909230129.ZM763626@taz.cs.utah.edu> In-Reply-To: Rory Hunter "Re: oddness" (Sep 23, 8:16am) References: <37E95D52.AC2CE967@dcs.ed.ac.uk> <37E96210.64A50BBF@csd.sgi.com> <37E9D3C8.F665545A@dcs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Rory Hunter Subject: Re: oddness Cc: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1088 Lines: 35 >From the df man page: The proc filesystem (normally mounted under /proc) is not printed by default, but can be explicitly specified. This filesystem consumes no actual disk space, but is an interface to the virtual space of running processes. The total and free blocks reported represent the total virtual memory (real memory plus swap space) present and the amount currently free, respectively. You will see /proc if you use GNU df. Otherwise, you have to explicitly ask for it (df /prof). If you use IRIX df /proc, you will see that the Type is proc - a virtual filesystem. If you want to independently verify it - use prtvtoc to look at how your disk is partitioned. You will probably not see a /proc paritition. Steve Parker On Sep 23, 8:16am, Rory Hunter wrote: > Subject: Re: oddness > Hi, > > I know the proc is virtual, but it puzzled me that 'df' should list it > when linux doesn't... if I can confirm that the partition itself is > virtual then I'll happliy ignore it. > > Cheers, > > Rory Hunter >-- End of excerpt from Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 13:21:12 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08265 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:21:01 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA00952; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:14:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA67874 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:04:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA44075 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:04:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (zeno@holmes.nl) Received: from holmes.holmes.nl (holmes.holmes.nl [194.229.145.97]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA04129 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:04:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (zeno@holmes.nl) From: zeno@holmes.nl Received: from theta.holmes.nl (theta.holmes.nl [10.5.0.12]) by holmes.holmes.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBA73878 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by theta.holmes.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Problem Installing Red Hat on 540 visual workstation Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:47:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1011 Lines: 37 Hi, I tried to install the Red Hat 6.0 by the rules that are given on http://www.linux.sgi.com/intel , however it did not work out. The first floppy did not boot properly. After this I followed the suggestion of booting with larc.exe, however the boot was not succesful. WIth larc.exe the next messages are displayed : OSLoadPartition : multi(0)disk(0)fdisk(0)partition(1) OSLoadFileName : /la2210.vw OSLOadScript : root=/dev/fd0 load_ramdisk=1 ARC opening multi(0)disk(0)fdisk(0)partition(1)la2210.vw ARC reading 52 bytes at offset 0 then it read the floppy forever. My Hardware Inventory : SGI_ARCx86_mp dual processor 500 Mhz x86 Family 6, Model 7, STepring 2 (1024 L2 Cache) Firmware 1.006 Memory 2048 MB Display Cobalt Graphics Network Intel 82257 USB Keyboard / Mouse with Raid QL 4 QL 1080 SCSI 2 - disks Thanks in advance for any suggestions to install Linux on this system. Best regards, Zeno Geradts From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 23 14:29:49 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20153 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:29:30 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA01045; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:25:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA74823 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:19:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from awesome.engr.sgi.com (awesome.engr.sgi.com [150.166.49.119]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA13795; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:19:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (yakker@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (yakker@localhost) by awesome.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id FAA42419; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Robinson To: Rory Hunter cc: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: oddness In-Reply-To: <37E9D3C8.F665545A@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1017 Lines: 31 On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Rory Hunter wrote: |>Hi, |> |>I know the proc is virtual, but it puzzled me that 'df' should list it |>when linux doesn't... if I can confirm that the partition itself is |>virtual then I'll happliy ignore it. If you check out the manual pages for proc(4) under IRIX and proc(5) under Linux (RedHat 6.0), you'll note that the filesystems are two different things. They are not the same. /proc under IRIX reports process information. /proc under Linux is for displaying (and modifying) kernel tunables. The proc(4) manual page under IRIX specifically states: The statfs(2) system call will return valid information concerning the proc filesystem. The total and free blocks as reported by df(1) respectively represent the total virtual memory (real memory plus swap space) available and currently free. Since the two filesystems perform different functions, 'df' should not be expected to perform the same function. Hope this helps. --Matt |>Cheers, |> |>Rory Hunter From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 00:21:24 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30011 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:21:18 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA05573; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:18:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA21421 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:09:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA76579 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:09:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA09400 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:09:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.4]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA15326 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:09:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08221; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:34:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:34:40 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: kevink@mips.com Subject: Indy Serial Message-ID: <19990923193440.A8210@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 301 Lines: 10 For those who don't read the CVS mailing list - the CVS now has a fix for the bug recently reported by Kevin Kissel. Sympthon was that sending data with O_POST disabled was broken. This broke various programs like cu or minicom. Thanks Kevin! Ralf PS: That's the first contribution by MIPS :-) From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 02:00:23 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA17211 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:00:22 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA00230; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:56:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA97980 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:47:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA41163 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:47:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (fcela@ce.chalmers.se) Received: from solen.ce.chalmers.se (solen.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.244]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA03517 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:47:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (fcela@ce.chalmers.se) Received: from blaklocka.ce.chalmers.se (blaklocka.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.152]) by solen.ce.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA29136; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:47:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:47:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Fernando Cela Diaz cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: X Server for SGI Indy In-Reply-To: <19990923193440.A8210@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 83 Lines: 5 Hi, Does anybody know when is expected to be finished the X Server for the Indy? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Sep 24 03:25:50 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04448 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:25:47 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA07928; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA41234 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:16:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA98038 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:16:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (palmerd3@anz.com) Received: from bastion02.anz.com (bastion02.anz.com [203.61.229.34]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA03420 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:16:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (palmerd3@anz.com) Received: by bastion02.anz.com; id LAA20227; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:18:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from unknown(150.19.2.206) by bastion02.anz.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa20188; Fri, 24 Sep 99 11:18:46 +1000 Received: by EXGAU30003 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:12:06 +1000 Message-ID: <5997E1E24136D211B12E0000F6B236314ACA07@EXGAU32003> From: "Palmer, David (New)" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Hardhat-sgi on CD ? Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:05:16 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 234 Lines: 6 Hello, On the web page http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/manhattan/ it mentions the possibility of the 270MB hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz file being available on a CD distribution soon. Is the CD available now and if so, where can I get it ? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sat Sep 25 00:20:48 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA29485 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:20:31 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA2414729; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA48557 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:05:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA84757 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA2426981 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:05:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-9.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.9]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26073 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:05:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA31081; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:57:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:57:42 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Palmer, David (New)" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Hardhat-sgi on CD ? Message-ID: <19990924235742.D29453@uni-koblenz.de> References: <5997E1E24136D211B12E0000F6B236314ACA07@EXGAU32003> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <5997E1E24136D211B12E0000F6B236314ACA07@EXGAU32003>; from Palmer, David (New) on Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:05:16AM +1000 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 455 Lines: 12 On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:05:16AM +1000, Palmer, David (New) wrote: > On the web page http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/manhattan/ it mentions the > possibility of the 270MB hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz > file being available on a CD distribution soon. > > Is the CD available now and if so, where can I get it ? Due to legal problems Redhat distributed that CD set for PPC, m68k, MIPS and Sparc64 under the name ``Rough Cuts'' about a year or so ago. Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sun Sep 26 23:58:24 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13308 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:58:22 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA21749; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:53:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA39779 for linux-list; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA76831 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:41:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sengelha@uiuc.edu) Received: from frodo.isdn.uiuc.edu (frodo.isdn.uiuc.edu [192.17.20.74]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA2738298 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:41:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sengelha@uiuc.edu) Received: (from sengelha@localhost) by frodo.isdn.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id QAA17807 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:41:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:41:47 -0500 From: Steven Engelhardt To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Problem Installing Hard Hat on an Indy Message-ID: <19990926164147.A17799@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 940 Lines: 34 When attempting to install the Hard Hat distribution made available on http://www.linux.sgi.com, we ran into the following problem when booting the kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed Page fault from irq handler: 0000 $0: .... $4: .... $8: .... $12: .... $16: .... $20: .... $24: .... $28: .... epc : ... status : ... cause : ... Aiee, killing interrupt handler Kernel panic: Attempting to kill the idle task In swapper task - not syncing We were able to get the system to boot using other kernels from the test directory on SGI's FTP site. However, when the installation begins, we were unable to find the correct SCSI controller in the list, and thus Hard Hat was unable to find a hard drive to install to. How can we get the original kernel to boot/how can we get newer kernels to recognize the hard drive so we can install Linux? Thanks. -- Steven Engelhardt http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/sengelha From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 12:43:39 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21646 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:43:20 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA2750085; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:40:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA58857 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:32:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA13194 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:32:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (hiroyuki@nucba.ac.jp) Received: from compsrv.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp (compsrv.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.214.201]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA2716156 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (hiroyuki@nucba.ac.jp) Received: from kurimotohiroyuki (tk03.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.214.37]) by compsrv.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA02658 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:29:00 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: kurimotohiroyuki@compsrv.econ.osaka-u.ac.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:37:51 +0900 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: hiroyuki kurimoto Subject: We are planning to start mirroring linux-sgi. Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 555 Lines: 17 Dear Sirs, I think the number of sgi-linux user is increasing now. So, We are planning to start mirroring linux-sgi. If it is possible, please add our site to the MIRRORS. Nagoya Syouka University. (Japan Asia) http http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/linux-sgi/ ftp ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/linux-sgi/ Sincerely yours. ---Hiroyuki Kurimoto--------------------------------------- Nagoya University of Commerce and Business Administration http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp 　(computer center) Mirror-Admin E-Mail:hiroyuki@nucba.ac.jp/ICQ:44189937 From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 14:54:31 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11844 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:54:26 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA17196; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:49:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA27191 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:42:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA64063 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:42:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bpielock@ulink.net) Received: from dragon.ulink.net (dragon.ulink.net [209.160.21.5]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA2725791 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:42:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bpielock@ulink.net) Received: by dragon.ulink.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:45:11 -0700 Message-ID: <07E3A5CCB88FD2119A6E0000F83098114774E9@dragon.ulink.net> From: Bob Pielock To: "'linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com'" Subject: Indigo 2 / Redhat 5.1 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:45:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 568 Lines: 12 Hi I have a few questions about installing Linux on an Indigo system. First off, I was wondering if anyone has ever attempted this before, if so please email me about any problems you may have had. Second, if no one has, could someone suggest anyhting that might come up durring the process of doing so? Right now my box is running IRIX 6.2, and I was thinking about getting a second hard drive just for the linux instalation, does anyone have a better way to dothis? How well is GL supported in Linux? Will the X server start? Thanks, Bob Pielock bpielock@ulink.net From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 15:25:51 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14298 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:25:45 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA20360; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:22:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA83546 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA97621 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:16:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA2879197 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from mdk187.tucc.uab.edu (mdk187.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.201]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA27212; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:16:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:15:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@mdk187.tucc.uab.edu To: Bob Pielock cc: "'linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com'" Subject: Re: Indigo 2 / Redhat 5.1 In-Reply-To: <07E3A5CCB88FD2119A6E0000F83098114774E9@dragon.ulink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1005 Lines: 19 You should have no problems getting the HardHat distrobution running on an Indigo2. You might need to compile your own kernel from the CVS tree; I am not sure if any of the pre-compiled versions on www.linux.sgi.com have Indigo2 support in them. However, there is currently no graphics support for the Indigo2 so you will need to use a serial console for installation. This also means there is no X support. -Andrew On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Bob Pielock wrote: > Hi I have a few questions about installing Linux on an Indigo system. > First off, I was wondering if anyone has ever attempted this before, if so > please email me about any problems you may have had. > Second, if no one has, could someone suggest anyhting that might come > up durring the process of doing so? Right now my box is running > IRIX 6.2, and I was thinking about getting a second hard drive just > for the linux instalation, does anyone have a better way to dothis? > How well is GL supported in Linux? Will the X server start? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 16:01:19 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA23249 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:01:16 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA23864; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:57:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA74657 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:50:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA07302 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:49:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gavin@refinery.com) Received: from irpmail.refinery.com (mail.refinery.com [207.8.216.3]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA2573524 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:49:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gavin@refinery.com) Received: from [216.63.49.245] (216.63.49.245) by irpmail.refinery.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for linux@engr.sgi.com; 27 Sep 1999 09:48:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gavin@refinery.com@207.8.216.3 (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:49:49 -0500 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Gavin Kistner Subject: Linux->Indy->O2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de id QAA23249 Content-Length: 835 Lines: 11 I noticed the previous poster mentioning that the Indy2 doesn't have X support yet under Linux. I'm wondering: does linux support for one machine get fully implemented and then tweaked to go to others, or is it a ground-up approach for each new machine in the port list? Basically, I'm wondering how hard its going to be to take linux over to the O2 once the Indy stuff gets really done. In that vein, I want linux for my O2 so badly (even just in a command-line configuration) that I'm thinking about trying to help. What are the major obstacles which need overcoming to get the current state of linux-mips to work on an O2? TIA, -- Gavin Kistner Creative Director +1 314 725 5096 Image Refinery Productions gavin@refinery.com http://www.refinery.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 16:14:58 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24085 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:14:42 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA2897204; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:12:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA88214 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA06233 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:04:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gavin@refinery.com) Received: from irpmail.refinery.com (mail.refinery.com [207.8.216.3]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA1171775 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:04:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gavin@refinery.com) Received: from [216.63.49.245] (216.63.49.245) by irpmail.refinery.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; 27 Sep 1999 10:03:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gavin@refinery.com@207.8.216.3 (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:03:58 -0500 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com From: Gavin Kistner Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 384 Lines: 9 At 8:49 AM -0500 1999-09-27, Gavin Kistner wrote: >I noticed the previous poster mentioning that the Indy2 doesn't have X support yet under Linux. I, of course, meant the Indigo 2. -- Gavin Kistner Creative Director +1 314 725 5096 Image Refinery Productions gavin@refinery.com http://www.refinery.com From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 16:28:46 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA31316 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:28:34 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA2850371; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA86079 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:17:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA91851 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (hanwen@cs.uu.nl) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA2754271 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:17:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (hanwen@cs.uu.nl) Received: from dokkum.cs.uu.nl.cs.uu.nl (dokkum.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.169]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770144516; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:17:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14319.32174.494753.691937@dokkum.cs.uu.nl> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:22:38 +0200 (CEST) To: Gavin Kistner Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Linux->Indy->O2 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under Emacs 20.4.1 Reply-To: hanwen@cs.uu.nl Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1426 Lines: 28 gavin@refinery.com writes: > I noticed the previous poster mentioning that the Indy2 doesn't have X support yet under Linux. I'm wondering: does linux support for one machine get fully implemented and then tweaked to go to others, or is it a ground-up approach for each new machine in the port list? > > Basically, I'm wondering how hard its going to be to take linux over to the O2 once the Indy stuff gets really done. > > In that vein, I want linux for my O2 so badly (even just in a command-line configuration) that I'm thinking about trying to help. What are the major obstacles which need overcoming to get the current state of linux-mips to work on an O2? [Disclaimer, I don't use Linux/SGI, and don't know much about the details]. Concerning X: Last thing I heard was that a simple SGI/Indy framebuffer was going to be in XFree86 v4. The architecture of the O2 and Indy are entirely different (the indy has a pipeline of graphics chips that do successive transformations), while the O2 has one big pool of memory that is used as framebuffer, main memory, texture memory, etc. simultaneously. The architecture is different, so you can't simply port the Indy X server. I'm not sure about the O2 port, but it has been asked before. Maybe you can browse the list archive. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys, hanwen@cs.uu.nl ** GNU LilyPond - The Music Typesetter http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/hanwen/lilypond/index.html From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 17:33:13 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03450 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:33:00 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA04970; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:28:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA15506 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:20:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA38925 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (brett@madhouse.org) Received: from caligula.madhouse.org ([216.160.90.69]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id IAA2786927 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (brett@madhouse.org) Received: (qmail 7835 invoked by uid 509); 27 Sep 1999 15:26:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 1999 15:26:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:26:02 -0700 (PDT) From: brett To: "Andrew R. Baker" cc: Bob Pielock , "'linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com'" Subject: Re: Indigo 2 / Redhat 5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 1474 Lines: 34 I think he was wondering about indigo boxes not indigo 2 boxes. I know they aren't supported currently (a shame considering that i have two under my desk) but are there any plans to support them at all. b ----------------------------------------------- brett wagner | brett@madhouse.org get committed! | http://www.madhouse.org ----------------------------------------------- On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Andrew R. Baker wrote: > > You should have no problems getting the HardHat distrobution running on an > Indigo2. You might need to compile your own kernel from the CVS tree; I > am not sure if any of the pre-compiled versions on www.linux.sgi.com have > Indigo2 support in them. However, there is currently no graphics support > for the Indigo2 so you will need to use a serial console for installation. > This also means there is no X support. > > -Andrew > > On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Bob Pielock wrote: > > Hi I have a few questions about installing Linux on an Indigo system. > > First off, I was wondering if anyone has ever attempted this before, if so > > please email me about any problems you may have had. > > Second, if no one has, could someone suggest anyhting that might come > > up durring the process of doing so? Right now my box is running > > IRIX 6.2, and I was thinking about getting a second hard drive just > > for the linux instalation, does anyone have a better way to dothis? > > How well is GL supported in Linux? Will the X server start? > > From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mon Sep 27 19:34:01 1999 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25025 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:33:53 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA23569; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:29:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA58692 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA47754 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:18:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (peter.de.vos@pandora.be) Received: from hercules.telenet-ops.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id KAA2922182 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:18:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (peter.de.vos@pandora.be) Received: (qmail 20335 invoked from network); 27 Sep 1999 16:35:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pandora.be) ([212.123.8.34]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Sep 1999 16:35:51 -0000 Message-ID: <37EF9D61.8147D9F8@pandora.be> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:37:53 +0200 From: "Peter J. de Vos" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com'" Subject: Indy requirements etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 586 Lines: 11 I've got some very basic questions regarding Indy's. At work we're replacing two Indy's, so I figured I could play with them till they have to be dumped (yes government, can't get them for myself). Both have a 1G HD. 800MB is used up by IRIX6.2. I am wondering if I could just wipe out IRIX and use it as a Linux-only system? I use RedHat 6.0 at home and I was wondering if a newer HardHat release will become available anywhere in the near future. SGI Belgium stated they'll ship their Intel systems with SGI Linux (RedHat + proprietary ad-ons). Will this impact HardHat in any way? From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Sep 28 22:22:51 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25239 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:22:47 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA04367; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:18:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA61533 for linux-list; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA26323 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:03:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA3433064 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:03:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-12-40.ipls.grid.net [209.138.12.40]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id UAA18197; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:01:55 GMT Message-ID: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:27:26 +0000 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Kistner CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 499 Lines: 13 Gavin Kistner wrote: > I noticed the previous poster mentioning that the Indy2 doesn't have X support yet under Linux. I'm wondering: does linux support for I believe Ulf Carlsson is working on REX3 support - that's Indy and Indigo2 > one machine get fully implemented and then tweaked to go to others, or is it a ground-up approach for each new machine in the port list? Two issues: X is huge and the architectures are quite different - your talking a *major* serious effort. - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Tue Sep 28 22:51:37 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA00721 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:51:34 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA3371479; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA62618 for linux-list; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.92]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA96543; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id NAA09403; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:36:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14321.9939.647579.563478@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) To: Alan Hoyt Cc: Gavin Kistner , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 In-Reply-To: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> References: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 489 Lines: 10 Alan Hoyt writes: > Gavin Kistner wrote: > > > I noticed the previous poster mentioning that the Indy2 doesn't have X support yet under Linux. I'm wondering: does linux support for > > I believe Ulf Carlsson is working on REX3 support - that's Indy and Indigo2 REX3 is "Newport", AKA "XL", graphics, which was the default on Indy and a lower-cost option on Indigo2. Most Indigo2 and some Indy systems have more complex graphics adapters ("Elan", "Extreme", "XZ", "Impact"). From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 01:36:08 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA26587 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:36:06 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA3594537; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA72975 for linux-list; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:18:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA62344; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:18:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA3598659; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:18:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-6-143.ipls.grid.net [209.138.6.143]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA10877; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <37F14445.866DE7F1@unidial.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:42:14 +0000 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGI Mips CC: "William J. Earl" Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 References: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> <14321.9939.647579.563478@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 763 Lines: 22 "William J. Earl" wrote: > REX3 is "Newport", AKA "XL", graphics, which was the default on > Indy and a lower-cost option on Indigo2. Most Indigo2 and some Indy > systems have more complex graphics adapters ("Elan", "Extreme", "XZ", "Impact"). Sorry, thought everyone knew - here is an excerpt from the SGI Hardware FAQ for those who are curious: Indy: IP22: Express (XZ ["GR3-Elan": 24, Z, 4 GE7, 1 RE3.1]), Newport (XL ["NG1": 8|24, soft Z, NG1, REX3]) Indigo2: IP22: Express (XZ ["GR3-Elan": 24, Z, 4 GE7, 1 RE3.1]), Newport (XL ["NG1": 8|24, soft Z, NG1, REX3]), Newpress (Extreme+XL ["GU1-Extreme": 32 Z]), Ultra (Extreme ["GU1-Extreme", 32 Z]) What was the most prevalent graphics configuration on the Indigo2s? - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 01:52:23 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA01031 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:52:21 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA06738; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA74026 for linux-list; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:40:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA84927 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:40:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from mail.unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA3447404 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (root@pool-209-138-6-143.ipls.grid.net [209.138.6.143]) by mail.unidial.com (8.8.7/ntr.net 3.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA17997; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:38:30 GMT Message-ID: <37F14960.A5FB60E1@unidial.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:04:00 +0000 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGI Mips CC: Bob Pielock Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 References: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> <37F12696.76757893@ulink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 574 Lines: 10 Bob Pielock wrote: > So are there any websites with message boards for all of this? Can someone at SGI setup a web based bulliten board for all the developement > stuff? I think if something people could all communicate on a board was available, updates would be more likely to be posted, and the website > would have more info on it then its current state.. I guess I am missing something - isn't that what this list accomplishes? If you want more detail, you can access the source via anonymous CVS - you can't follow development any closer than that! - Alan Hoyt - From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Wed Sep 29 02:27:21 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA11341 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 02:27:19 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA01741; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA32875 for linux-list; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:18:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [150.166.40.92]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA32755; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:18:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA23870; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:18:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14321.23251.949521.794817@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:18:27 -0700 (PDT) To: Alan Hoyt Cc: SGI Mips Subject: Re: Linux->Indy->O2 In-Reply-To: <37F14445.866DE7F1@unidial.com> References: <37F1169E.B816C35E@unidial.com> <14321.9939.647579.563478@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> <37F14445.866DE7F1@unidial.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 972 Lines: 24 Alan Hoyt writes: > "William J. Earl" wrote: > > > REX3 is "Newport", AKA "XL", graphics, which was the default on > > Indy and a lower-cost option on Indigo2. Most Indigo2 and some Indy > > systems have more complex graphics adapters ("Elan", "Extreme", "XZ", "Impact"). > > Sorry, thought everyone knew - here is an excerpt from the SGI Hardware FAQ for those who are curious: > > Indy: IP22: > Express (XZ ["GR3-Elan": 24, Z, 4 GE7, 1 RE3.1]), > Newport (XL ["NG1": 8|24, soft Z, NG1, REX3]) > > Indigo2: IP22: > Express (XZ ["GR3-Elan": 24, Z, 4 GE7, 1 RE3.1]), > Newport (XL ["NG1": 8|24, soft Z, NG1, REX3]), > Newpress (Extreme+XL ["GU1-Extreme": 32 Z]), > Ultra (Extreme ["GU1-Extreme", 32 Z]) > > What was the most prevalent graphics configuration on the Indigo2s? XZ was probably the most common, until Impact was released. On the Indigo2 R10000, Impact (not on the above list) is probably the most common. From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 30 01:42:07 1999 Received: from dns1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (dns1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de [141.7.1.18]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA11681 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:42:06 +0200 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by dns1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22173 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:27:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA08195; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA65687 for linux-list; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:10:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA49268 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:10:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (pete@alien.bt.co.uk) Received: from mail.alien.bt.co.uk ([132.146.196.84]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id JAA3860904 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:10:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (pete@alien.bt.co.uk) Received: from cornfed(really [132.146.196.81]) by mail.alien.bt.co.uk via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:09:28 +0100 (BST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built 1998-May-29) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:07:21 +0100 (BST) From: Pete Young Reply-To: Pete Young Subject: Latest versions of kernel, other tools To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: uwtS43qRHiDkTtW/yIL6dw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 i86pc i386 Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 842 Lines: 21 Dear gurus, I have an Indy which I set up back in May, running kernel version 2.2.1 (29th March 1999) . Hardhat Release 5.1 distribution. I've just been looking around on ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/ for a newer version with no success. Can someone tell me where I should be looking for updates, and also whether there are any packages which I should also update? I seem to recall a message about binutils being significantly improved, is there anything else? The latest version of the mailing list archive stops on July 25: if there have been any announcements after then, my memory has not been up to the job! Regards Pete ____________________________________________________________________ Pete Young pete@alien.bt.co.uk Phone +44 1473 642740 "Just another crouton, floating on the bouillabaisse of life" From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Thu Sep 30 01:45:14 1999 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12950 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:45:13 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA4215578; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA74941 for linux-list; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:28:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA74726 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:28:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA4193193 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:28:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from mdk187.tucc.uab.edu (mdk187.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.201]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18981; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:02:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:00:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@mdk187.tucc.uab.edu To: Pete Young cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Latest versions of kernel, other tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 885 Lines: 22 On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Pete Young wrote: > Dear gurus, > > I have an Indy which I set up back in May, running kernel version > 2.2.1 (29th March 1999) . Hardhat Release 5.1 distribution. > > I've just been looking around on ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/ for > a newer version with no success. Can someone tell me where I should > be looking for updates, and also whether there are any packages which > I should also update? I seem to recall a message about binutils > being significantly improved, is there anything else? > > The latest version of the mailing list archive stops on July 25: if there > have been any announcements after then, my memory has not been up to the job! I think the current version is 2.2.12. There is also a 2.3, but I don't recall which revision. They are all available from the CVS archive. Use the tag "linux_2_2" to get a 2.2 tree. HTH -Andrew From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Oct 1 00:28:03 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09153 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:27:56 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA09318; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:25:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA51644 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:15:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA35971 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980305.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA4701396 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:15:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de) Received: from lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.8]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01324 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:03:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25297 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:15:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:15:50 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: CVS Message-ID: <19990930231550.A25291@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 264 Lines: 6 Could those with write access to the CVS archive please hold their patches back until I've commited 2.3.18 or send mail them to me? It'll make myself life easier as I'm currently with several source trees which I have to merge into a single one. Thanks, Ralf From owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Fri Oct 1 01:05:12 1999 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by lara.stud.fh-heilbronn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA11605 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:05:10 +0200 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA09267; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA49541 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:54:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from oz.engr.sgi.com (oz.engr.sgi.com [150.166.42.13]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA49215 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from ariel@localhost) by oz.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA31695 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199909302254.PAA31695@oz.engr.sgi.com> Subject: moving www.linux.sgi.com To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1268 Lines: 34 Hi All, As you may know, the machine www.linux.sgi.com has had an interesting history: it was originally Larry McVoy's desktop which he donated for hosting this service and was never really officially maintained/supported. Then it got replaced by Bob Mende and we used scraped parts, disk etc. from various places to keep it going as best as we could... The time has come to host this service on a more reliable machine, on a faster link, closer to the backbone, that is actually officially supported by SGI. So we intend to migrate the old SGI/linux site to oss.sgi.com. Of course, we will keep the aliases and virtual hosts working so this should be mostly transparent but as Ralf just mentioned we ask that people refrain from checking stuff in until this process is done. Also: we have had scores of people who have checked-in stuff long time ago and never returned so we would like to ask that those who want to check in new stuff, let Ralf know so he can set you up for new ssh access. Any questions comments welcome. P.S. And if you see any problems it is _not_ because of any evil empire or SGI dropping support for Linux :-) but just because of my ineptitude in doing such things. I ask for your patience and understanding. Thanks. -- Peace, Ariel