From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 00:22:23 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:22:13 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:55095 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:22:06 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA11616; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:17:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA24917 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:10:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA64989 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:10:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id AAA00499 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:10:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: (qmail 8598 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2000 08:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO penguin.nl) (195.96.116.141) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 08:10:28 -0000 Message-ID: <38BCD0B0.98471057@penguin.nl> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:11:28 +0100 From: Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jallan@freeuk.com CC: jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu, Bastiaan.N.Veelo@immtek.ntnu.no, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Subject: Re: Linux on O2? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing jallan@freeuk.com wrote: > You wrote: > > > From: James Simmons > > > > The O2's I can get hold of, if I am well informed, come with an R5000 > > > processor, 128MB RAM, 2GB SCSI, soundcard, keyboard and 21" Monitor for > > > 5000 NOK (that's about 1250 DEM or 625 USD!). Though I live in Norway I > > > visit Germany from time to time and transport is therefore a lesser > > > problem. > > > > WoW!!! Can I get one for this price? > > Make that wow from me too! I am interested as well! > > Did I miss the original repy to my inquiry about Linux on an O2 though? > Me three ! Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 03:13:59 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:13:49 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61006 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:13:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA22156; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:08:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA17930 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:03:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA62949 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:03:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA06024 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:03:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id C2ED77F5; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:03:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 043E98FC3; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:50:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:50:53 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login Message-ID: <20000301115053.A4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, i just succeeded in compiling current CVS 2.3.47 and succeeded booting the same kernel. This DECstation is a DS5000/1xx Loading R4000 MMU routines. CPU revision is: 00000430 Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes) Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes) Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 32 Linux version 2.3.47 (root@193.189.250.44) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #2 Wed Mar 1 08:21:08 GMT 2000 On node 0 totalpages: 16384 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 12288 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 49.81 BogoMIPS Memory: 62584k/65536k available (1012k kernel code, 2952k reserved, 72k data, 48k init) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 12.5 MHz (no parity) slot 0: DEC PMAZ-AA V5.3d slot 1: DEC PMAZ-AA V5.3b slot 2: DEC PMAF-FA V1.1 Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.3 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096) Starting kswapd v1.6 DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03 tty00 at 0xbc100001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty01 at 0xbc100009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty02 at 0xbc180001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty03 at 0xbc180009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC SCSI ID 7 Clk 25MHz CCF=5 TOut 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) SCSI ID 7 Clk 12MHz CCF=3 TOut 139 NCR53C9x(esp236) SCSI ID 7 Clk 12MHz CCF=3 TOut 139 NCR53C9x(esp236) ESP: Total of 3 ESP hosts found, 3 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi1 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi2 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi : 3 hosts. Vendor: Quantum Model: XP34300 Rev: L912 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST15150N Rev: 8902 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. esp0: target 0 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8399520 [4101 MB] [4.1 GB] Partition check: sda: sda1 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 > esp0: target 2 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8388315 [4095 MB] [4.1 GB] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:28:f0:a3, irq = 3 Sending BOOTP requests.... OK IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 193.189.250.46, my address is 193.189.250.44 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused PROM memory: 124k freed Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed The problem is that i am NOT able to log in via SSH afterwards which works flawlessly with 2.3.21 i am running right now ... Might this be a devpts PTY98 problem ? -------------------------------------------------------- (flo@ping)~# ssh root@repeat.rfc822.org root@repeat.rfc822.org's password: Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could not be run on the server side. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed by remote host. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed. -------------------------------------------------------- Ideas ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 03:38:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:38:09 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:32620 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:37:50 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA04702; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:40:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA31075 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:26:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA88490 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA07844 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:25:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA16829; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:25:02 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:25:02 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Florian Lohoff cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login In-Reply-To: <20000301115053.A4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > The problem is that i am NOT able to log in via SSH afterwards which > works flawlessly with 2.3.21 i am running right now ... Might this > be a devpts PTY98 problem ? > > -------------------------------------------------------- > (flo@ping)~# ssh root@repeat.rfc822.org > root@repeat.rfc822.org's password: > Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could not be run on the server side. > Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed by remote host. > Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed. > -------------------------------------------------------- What does `ssh -v root@repeat.rfc822.org' say? BTW, does this mean you have a Debian/mipsel ssh package now? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 03:46:59 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:46:50 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:39251 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:46:45 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA24198; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:42:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA39450 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:36:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA91985 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:36:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA09371 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:36:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8FF137F5; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:36:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 372EF8FC3; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:23:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:23:29 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login Message-ID: <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000301115053.A4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Geert Uytterhoeven on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:25:02PM +0100 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:25:02PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > What does `ssh -v root@repeat.rfc822.org' say? (flo@ping)~# ssh -v root@repeat.rfc822.org SSH Version 1.2.26 [i586-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. ping: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config ping: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 0 ping: Connecting to repeat.rfc822.org [193.189.250.44] port 22. ping: Allocated local port 1021. ping: Connection established. ping: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 1.2.27 ping: Waiting for server public key. ping: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). ping: Host 'repeat.rfc822.org' is known and matches the host key. ping: Initializing random; seed file /home/flo/.ssh/random_seed ping: Encryption type: idea ping: Sent encrypted session key. ping: Installing crc compensation attack detector. ping: Received encrypted confirmation. ping: Trying rhosts or /etc/hosts.equiv with RSA host authentication. ping: Server refused our rhosts authentication or host key. ping: Connection to authentication agent opened. ping: RSA authentication using agent refused. ping: Trying RSA authentication with key 'flo@move' ping: Server refused our key. ping: Doing password authentication. root@repeat.rfc822.org's password: ping: Requesting pty. ping: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. ping: Remote: Client requested X11 forwarding, but the server has no xauth program. ping: Remote: This is usually caused by "xauth" not being in PATH during compile. Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could not be run on the server side. ping: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. ping: Requesting shell. ping: Entering interactive session. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed by remote host. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed. ping: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 97 bytes in 0.2 seconds ping: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 392.2 ping: Exit status -1 > BTW, does this mean you have a Debian/mipsel ssh package now? ftp.rfc822.org /pub/local/debian/debian-non-US/dists/potato/non-US/non-free/binary-mipsel/ssh_1.2.27-2_mipsel.deb Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 03:49:29 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:49:19 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:55379 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:49:13 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA24353; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:44:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA75531 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:39:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA11278 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:39:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA01318 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:39:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id C9CBE7F5; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:39:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4EF718FC3; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:26:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:26:50 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login Message-ID: <20000301122650.A5186@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000301115053.A4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from Florian Lohoff on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:23:29PM +0100 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:23:29PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:25:02PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > What does `ssh -v root@repeat.rfc822.org' say? > > (flo@ping)~# ssh -v root@repeat.rfc822.org > SSH Version 1.2.26 [i586-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5. > Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. BTW: ssh root@repeat.rfc822.org reboot Works - So it has to be something with the "interactive session" therefor i suspected PTY98 things ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 04:10:39 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:10:30 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:51285 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:10:09 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA25497; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:05:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA04840; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA08626 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:58:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA87506 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:58:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA07206 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 03:58:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18015; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:58:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:58:28 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Florian Lohoff cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login In-Reply-To: <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > BTW, does this mean you have a Debian/mipsel ssh package now? > > ftp.rfc822.org > > /pub/local/debian/debian-non-US/dists/potato/non-US/non-free/binary-mipsel/ssh_1.2.27-2_mipsel.deb Ah, now I remember. This package depends on a package that's not available. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 07:00:50 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:00:40 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:55147 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:00:21 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA06709; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:55:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA51708 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:40:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA81370 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu) Received: from willis.pubsites.buffalo.edu (willis.pubsites.buffalo.edu [128.205.139.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id GAA01710 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu) Received: (qmail 6245 invoked by uid 9977); 1 Mar 2000 14:40:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: James A Simmons X-Sender: jsimmons@willis.pubsites.buffalo.edu To: Richard cc: jallan@freeuk.com, Bastiaan.N.Veelo@immtek.ntnu.no, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de Subject: Re: Linux on O2? In-Reply-To: <38BCD0B0.98471057@penguin.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing This got out of hand. I was only kidding. I didn't think anyone would take that serious. Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" James Simmons (o_ fbdev/gfx developer (o_ (o_ //\ http://www.linux-fbdev.org (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ http://linuxgfx.sourceforge.net On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Richard wrote: > jallan@freeuk.com wrote: > > > You wrote: > > > > > From: James Simmons > > > > > > The O2's I can get hold of, if I am well informed, come with an R5000 > > > > processor, 128MB RAM, 2GB SCSI, soundcard, keyboard and 21" Monitor for > > > > 5000 NOK (that's about 1250 DEM or 625 USD!). Though I live in Norway I > > > > visit Germany from time to time and transport is therefore a lesser > > > > problem. > > > > > > WoW!!! Can I get one for this price? > > > > Make that wow from me too! I am interested as well! > > > > Did I miss the original repy to my inquiry about Linux on an O2 though? > > > > Me three ! > > Richard > > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 1 07:47:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:47:40 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:58745 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:47:20 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA07599; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:50:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA07281 for linux-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:39:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA12934 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:39:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adisaacs@mr-happy.com) Received: from brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (brainguy.tc.mtu.edu [141.219.5.85]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA08597 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adisaacs@mr-happy.com) Received: from crow.mr-happy.com (crow.mr-happy.com [172.19.3.81]) by brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA13009 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from adisaacs@localhost) by crow.mr-happy.com (8.9.1b+Sun/HappyClient) id KAA12993 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:39:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:39:16 -0500 From: Andy Isaacson To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: 2.3.47 success on Decstation 5000/150, problems with login Message-ID: <20000301103916.B12964@mr-happy.com> References: <20000301115053.A4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20000301122329.B4608@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:23:29PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 48 01 21 E2 D4 E4 68 D1 B8 DF 39 B2 AF A3 16 B9 X-PGP-Key-URL: http://web.mr-happy.com/~adisaacs/pgp.txt Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:23:29PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > ping: Requesting shell. > ping: Entering interactive session. > Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed by remote host. Ooh ooh, I think I know this one. Check that your tty baud rate on the originating host is not set to 0. ('stty 9600'). Otherwise maybe some other tty setting? -andy -- Andy Isaacson http://web.mr-happy.com/~adisaacs/ Fight Spam, join CAUCE: adi@acm.org adisaacs@mr-happy.com isaacson@cs.umn.edu www.cauce.org From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 2 04:48:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:48:46 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:6175 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:48:29 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA10225; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:43:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA51894; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA59081 for linux-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA20606 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:35:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be ([193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA01495 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:35:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28440 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:35:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:35:09 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: get_unaligned Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing When trying to compile the current CVS kernel, I get (for drivers/usb/hid.c): | mipsel-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/people/geert.nba/linux-mips-20000302/includ e -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -G 0 -mno-abicalls -fno-pic -mcpu=r8000 -mips2 -pipe -mlong-calls -DMODULE -c -o hid.o hid.c | {standard input}: Assembler messages: | {standard input}:4523: Error: opcode requires -mips3 or greater `uld' | {standard input}:4628: Error: opcode requires -mips3 or greater `uld' Seems to be caused by get_unaligned() in include/asm-mips/unaligned.h. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 3 10:32:24 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:32:04 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:57377 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:31:42 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA08557; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:34:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA80590 for linux-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA59144 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:08:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (themis.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.192]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA04412 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:07:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (daphnia.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.193]) by themis.fciencias.unam.mx (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16726 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:10:53 -0600 Message-ID: <38C000C5.5BB5689B@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:13:25 -0600 From: Carlos Ernesto =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez=20Natar=E9n?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: About X server... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi! I just wanted to know if there is a X server working on linux, because I want to install it on an Indy, but I really need X working... the Hard Hat homepage has not much info about it... Thanks a lot natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 3 11:48:14 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:47:54 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:10286 "EHLO convert rfc822-to-8bit pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:47:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA02859; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA36453 for linux-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:37:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13294 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:37:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu) Received: from tolstoy.pubsites.buffalo.edu (tolstoy.pubsites.buffalo.edu [128.205.139.10]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id LAA00637 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:37:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu) Received: (qmail 9060 invoked by uid 9977); 3 Mar 2000 19:37:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:37:52 -0500 (EST) From: James A Simmons X-Sender: jsimmons@tolstoy.pubsites.buffalo.edu To: Carlos Ernesto =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez=20Natar=E9n?= cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: About X server... In-Reply-To: <38C000C5.5BB5689B@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >From what I seen the best thing to do is run the native Xsgi X server under linux. I have seen a patched XFree86 X server in CVS. Its uses the /dev/graphics interface native to IRIX. "Look its a text editor, no its a OS, no its Emacs" James Simmons (o_ fbdev/gfx developer (o_ (o_ //\ http://www.linux-fbdev.org (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ http://linuxgfx.sourceforge.net On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Carlos Ernesto [iso-8859-1] López Natarén wrote: > Hi! > I just wanted to know if there is a X server working on > linux, because I want to install it on an Indy, but I > really need X working... > the Hard Hat homepage has not much info about it... > Thanks a lot > natorro > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 3 14:42:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:42:29 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:10524 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:42:11 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA11290; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:37:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA78690; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA75485 for linux-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:27:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA80047 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA05420 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA01272 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA22073 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:27:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <020901bf8560$1143e4c0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: R5xxx Instability (Indy Crashes?) and CP0 Hazards Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 23:30:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing In a thread in this group some weeks ago, I suggested that the problems observed with running Linux on R5K Indys might be related to the fact that the TLB miss handler did not respect the rules set out in the R5000 users' manual, specifically, that there be two integer instructions between any modification of the EntryHi/EntryLo/PageMask registers and a TLB Write operation. The response of the old hands in the group was that this couldn't be a problem, since IRIX didn't respect that rule, and IRIX empirically works. Perhaps, but In the course of tormenting our various systems with "crashme", we discovered that, while we could make crashme run for unbounded periods of time on our new MIPS "Jade" CPUs, it would sieze up in less than a minute on a QED R5260 running on the same hardware platform. Logic analyser traces seemed to indicate that it may have been a problem with TLB miss service where the instruction causing the fault was a load/store using k0/k1 as a base register - something no sane program would do, of course. On a hunch, I modified the excep_vec0_nevada routine to insert two nops between the mtc0 to EntryLo1 and the tlbwr. I also took out one of the nops between the tlbwr and the eret. The documentation implies that none is necessary, but I note that the IRIX handler has a single nop, and I didn't want to push my luck. So there was a net addition of 1 nop. Bingo. The system is as stable as with a Jade. Now, that's on an R5260, not an R5000, but from what the engineers at QED have told me, the CP0 design is the same for both families. I am for once checking this change directly into the SGI repository, but only for the "Nevada" CPUs. Someone with an R5000 Indy needs to repeat the experiment for the R5000, and check in the change if it helps there as well. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 6 20:30:10 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:29:52 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:54909 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:29:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA07960; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:32:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA46930 for linux-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:12:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA37755 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:12:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA06911 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:12:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lithium (lithium.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.219]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA11556; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:12:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:12:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@lithium To: Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: FP emulation patch available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I have made a patch against the 2.2.13 CVS kernel from the patch that Kevin Kissell (sp?) put out earlier. This patch is a subset of Kevin's patch. It includes the following pieces: 1) FPU emulation support 2) removal of the MIPS instruction bitfields (replaced with macros) 3) mips_cpu stucture and C based cpu identification I think a gdb segment snuck in there too. The patch is available at: http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~andrewb/2.2.diff.2000.03.06 Could interested parties please look at it and provide more testing than me and my Indigo2. My next goal is to intergrate the FP unimplemented exception code into the FPU emulation framework. I then shall see about moving it all to 2.3 (I may move parts sooner if necessary). Comments appreciated, Andrew P.S. Ralf & others, since I keep changing desktop machines I do not believe I have submit access to CVS anymore. If this patch is satisfactory, could one of you submit it to the archive for me? From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 7 04:24:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:23:53 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:52752 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:23:26 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA01215; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:26:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA60442 for linux-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:08:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA29808 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:08:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nop@nop.com) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA00108 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:08:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nop@nop.com) Received: from decoy (h00a0cc39f081.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.252.183]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA00566; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <578601bf882d$d945f650$0a00000a@decoy> From: "Jay Carlson" To: "Dominic Sweetman" , "Bradley D. LaRonde" Cc: "Andrew R. Baker" , "Linux SGI" , , References: <097a01bf87eb$ebe4d4d0$b8119526@ltc.com> <200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:08:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > Bradley D. LaRonde (brad@ltc.com) writes (re the FPA emulator out of > Algorithmics via Kevin Kissell): > > > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. > > It's good to see our donation to the Linux project being taken up > enthusiastically , but didn't SGI have some code like this? I mean, > you can't have a serious MIPS run-time system without an FP emulator, > can you? quoting from softftp.S from 2.3.19: * For now it's just a crude hack good enough to run certain fp programs like * Mozilla. It's just dealing with denorms, NaNs, etc as inputs. AFAIK NetBSD was no better until pretty recently. Whether Linux or NetBSD, as systems, were ever serious MIPS run-time systems---well, you wrote the book, so I'm inclined to get out of the argument. >From my LinuxCE perspective, a full FP emu is fairly important for getting binary compatibility back with mainline Linux/MIPS---we've been in the softfp ghetto. But most of what we do with FP is, uh, keep /bin/df happy when it tries to calculate the percentage of free disk space, and the like. And dropping softfp means we don't *have* to maintain a forked toolchain/libc. (of course, getting rid of softfp makes mips16 more...interesting...) Jay From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 7 11:06:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:05:47 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:13094 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:05:24 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA08983; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:00:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA73594 for linux-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:55:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA73691 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:54:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA04357 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:54:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lithium (lithium.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.219]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA17392; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:54:24 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:54:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@lithium To: "Gleb O. Raiko" cc: Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available In-Reply-To: <38C4C328.9656C68E@niisi.msk.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Gleb O. Raiko wrote: > "Bradley D. LaRonde" wrote: > > > > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. > > > > Regards, > > Brad > > I vote for 2.3 too. It seems 2.2 will vanish soon anyway. Working on it. -Andrew From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 7 12:15:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:15:06 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:32830 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:14:43 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA19319; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:10:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA33527 for linux-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:44:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA57008 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:43:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA08353 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port207.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.207]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21172; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:42:56 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:43:43 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Andrew R. Baker" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI , "Gleb O. Raiko" Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 07-Mar-00 Andrew R. Baker wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Gleb O. Raiko wrote: >> "Bradley D. LaRonde" wrote: >> > >> > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Brad >> >> I vote for 2.3 too. It seems 2.2 will vanish soon anyway. > > Working on it. Me too. Compiles and links but doesn't work. I guess the cpu detection doesn't work properly for my Mobilon yet. I am actually compiling it for a DECstation :-) -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 7 14:14:38 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:14:28 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56929 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:14:09 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA06396; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:09:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA50659 for linux-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:05:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA35548 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:05:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA05319 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lithium (lithium.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.219]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21654 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:05:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:05:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@lithium To: Linux SGI Subject: problem with most recent 2.3 CVS kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Everything goes well until just after the SCSI disk detection. Then I get: scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=160, scaling scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=128, scaling scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=96, scaling scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=80, scaling scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=64, scaling scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=48, scaling WARNING, not enough memory, pool not expanded Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == 880a4 Oops in fault.c:do_page_fault, line 153: $0 : 00000000 881100e0 00000000 00000021 $4 : 00000019 00000008 00000008 00000001 $8 : 1004fc00 1000001f 00000003 88631e54 $12: 00000000 0000000a 00000000 88115840 $16: 00000000 bfbc0003 00000008 00000001 $20: 00000080 00000049 0000003a 1004fc00 $24: 00000020 bfbd9833 $28: 88008000 88009e08 88635800 880a7714 epc : 880a77a4 Any hints on this one? -Andrew From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 02:04:48 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:04:40 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:1796 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:04:11 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA02564; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:07:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA14604; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA71390 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:47:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA63510 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:47:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA24975 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:42:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA23029; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA27977; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:40:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <025701bf88e2$c648a7e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" , "Andrew R. Baker" Cc: , , "Linux SGI" , "Gleb O. Raiko" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:43:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hearald Koerfgen wrote: > >On 07-Mar-00 Andrew R. Baker wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Gleb O. Raiko wrote: >>> "Bradley D. LaRonde" wrote: >>> > >>> > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Brad >>> >>> I vote for 2.3 too. It seems 2.2 will vanish soon anyway. >> >> Working on it. > >Me too. Compiles and links but doesn't work. I guess the cpu detection doesn't >work properly for my Mobilon yet. I am actually compiling it for a DECstation >:-) It's odd - I'm on at least one of the mailing lists in question, but I missed part of this thread yesterday - such as Bradley's message, and another that must have come from someone (Dom?) at Algorithmics. Anyway, the my CPU detection would certainly not have worked for a Mobilon. But it ought to have worked for a DECstation. What CPU does it have? In addition to the cpu_probe() routine itself, arch/mips/kernel/cpu_probe.c contains a table that describes the CPU's that are recognized, and in principle it "knows" all the CPUs that were recognized by the old assembler code in head.S, plus a couple more (R4300 and MIPS 4Kc/5Kc). The problem may be a CPU that is mis-identified, or it may be that the options in the table associated with that CPU are incorrectly defined. Please let me know what CPU and "PrID" the system has. Regards, Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 02:39:18 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:38:59 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:60932 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:38:32 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA03169; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:41:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA15174 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:23:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA74636 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:23:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard.hartensveld@clearviewcc.com) Received: from voyager.clearviewcc.com (warstrider.clearviewcc.com [212.123.31.66]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA29654 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:18:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richard.hartensveld@clearviewcc.com) Received: from clearviewcc.com (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by voyager.clearviewcc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22427 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: <38C628EC.9D5D4240@clearviewcc.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:18:20 +0100 From: Richard Hartensveld X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux SGI Subject: Website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, Anyone intrested in an uptodate website on the linux/MIPS projects ? So far as i found, there's the lena.fr site that's last updated somewhere in '98. I've got the domain linux-mips.org in my possession, and i'dd like to do some things with it that other people can benefit from aswell. Anyone got a good idea for this? Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 03:43:18 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 03:43:09 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:24838 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 03:42:51 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA07140; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 03:46:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA36382 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:21:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA16146 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:21:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA12098 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:17:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02091; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:14:27 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:14:27 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: "Andrew R. Baker" cc: Linux SGI Subject: Re: problem with most recent 2.3 CVS kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Andrew R. Baker wrote: > Everything goes well until just after the SCSI disk detection. Then I > get: > > > scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=160, scaling > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=128, scaling > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=96, scaling > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=80, scaling > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=64, scaling > scsi::resize_dma_pool: WARNING, dma_sectors=0, wanted=48, scaling > WARNING, not enough memory, pool not expanded > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000, epc == > 880a4 > Oops in fault.c:do_page_fault, line 153: > $0 : 00000000 881100e0 00000000 00000021 > $4 : 00000019 00000008 00000008 00000001 > $8 : 1004fc00 1000001f 00000003 88631e54 > $12: 00000000 0000000a 00000000 88115840 > $16: 00000000 bfbc0003 00000008 00000001 > $20: 00000080 00000049 0000003a 1004fc00 > $24: 00000020 bfbd9833 > $28: 88008000 88009e08 88635800 880a7714 > epc : 880a77a4 > > > Any hints on this one? I see the `Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000000', caused by `Oops in fault.c:do_page_fault, line 153' also. It seems to happen at random places. I once tried the additional NOPs in the R5000 exception handler, but that didn't make a difference. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 06:55:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:54:41 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:308 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:54:11 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA21307; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:49:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA20228; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA85365 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:40:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA06271 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA09142 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:40:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 649FF807; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:40:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E582F8FC3; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:38:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:38:10 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: Richard Hartensveld Cc: Linux SGI Subject: Re: Website Message-ID: <20000308153810.L3646@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <38C628EC.9D5D4240@clearviewcc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <38C628EC.9D5D4240@clearviewcc.com>; from Richard Hartensveld on Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:18:20AM +0100 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:18:20AM +0100, Richard Hartensveld wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone intrested in an uptodate website on the linux/MIPS projects ? > So far as i found, there's the lena.fr site that's last updated > somewhere in '98. lena.fr is completely out of date but still an interesting site for "Newbies" > I've got the domain linux-mips.org in my possession, and i'dd like to do > some things with it > that other people can benefit from aswell. > > Anyone got a good idea for this? For decstation related things the http://decstation.unix-ag.org site is quiet good. I thought of an website which clearely states there is an "Linux Mips" and gives links to development of the different big topics right now (binutils, gcc, glibc, kernel) and information on the different sub-Archs like Decstation, SGI, Handhelds etc and gives useful information on how to install and how to start. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 07:07:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:06:51 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:33078 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:06:30 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA22544; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA18937; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA00594 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA40665 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:49:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eak@detroit.sgi.com) Received: from dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (dataserv.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.128.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA69826; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx1.detroit.sgi.com (cx1.detroit.sgi.com [169.238.130.4]) by dataserv.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA29338; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from detroit.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cx1.detroit.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA04531; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:49:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38C66871.FE85BAFE@detroit.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:49:21 -0500 From: Eric Kimminau Reply-To: eak@sgi.com Organization: sgi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Hartensveld CC: Linux SGI Subject: Re: Website References: <38C628EC.9D5D4240@clearviewcc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Richard Hartensveld wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone intrested in an uptodate website on the linux/MIPS projects ? > So far as i found, there's the lena.fr site that's last updated > somewhere in '98. > > I've got the domain linux-mips.org in my possession, and i'dd like to do > some things with it > that other people can benefit from aswell. > > Anyone got a good idea for this? > > Richard Since Ariel left, noone is updating www.linux.sgi.com any more. I forwarded your note onto Steve Modica (GPS Linux manager) and Amy Chung (Linux Marketing manager). EAK. -- .--------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7. Eric Kimminau eak@sgi.com SGI Extranet Services Vox:650-933-6441 Fax:248-618-9178 VNET:6-933-6441 "I speak my mind and no one else's." "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up..." http://support.sgi.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 07:53:30 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:53:11 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:27201 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:52:48 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA27793; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:48:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA04906 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA99989 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA04348 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA28663; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA01033; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:35:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <039101bf8914$4b4afca0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Richard Hartensveld" Cc: "Linux SGI" Subject: Re: Website Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:37:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >Anyone intrested in an uptodate website on the linux/MIPS projects ? >So far as i found, there's the lena.fr site that's last updated >somewhere in '98. For what it's worth, I've *tried* to put together a small but up-to-date page at www.paralogos.com/mipslinux/ that links to most of the old and some of the new pages, and which has downloads for the unofficial MIPS Technologies kernel, and mipsel/mipseb userlands. But that server is going to fill up pretty soon - there's only 1G total available, and it also hosts some other functions. >I've got the domain linux-mips.org in my possession, and i'dd like to do >some things with it >that other people can benefit from aswell. > >Anyone got a good idea for this? I think it would be great to have a mnemonic domain name like linux-mips.org, but how much disk space is behind it? Sombody at MIPS in Mountain View was to establish a project at SourceForge for "MIPS Linux", which would have a certain amount of disk space behind it. I need to get the "keys" to that and see what can be done with it. Kevin K. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 08:23:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:23:21 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:14361 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:23:05 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA05869; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:26:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA03207 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:12:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAB74783 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:12:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA02227 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:12:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:11:05 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:11:05 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Gleb O. Raiko" Cc: "Bradley D. LaRonde" , "Andrew R. Baker" , Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Message-ID: <20000308131105.B872@uni-koblenz.de> References: <097a01bf87eb$ebe4d4d0$b8119526@ltc.com> <38C4C328.9656C68E@niisi.msk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <38C4C328.9656C68E@niisi.msk.ru> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:51:52AM +0300, Gleb O. Raiko wrote: > > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. > > > > Regards, > > Brad > > I vote for 2.3 too. It seems 2.2 will vanish soon anyway. Size, stability and existing drivers are arguments for 2.2 that will stay valid for quite some time. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 09:00:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:00:32 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:35615 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:00:18 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA04121; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:03:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA93973; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA94665 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA24710 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA03005 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:25:05 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:25:05 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jay Carlson Cc: Dominic Sweetman , "Bradley D. LaRonde" , "Andrew R. Baker" , Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Message-ID: <20000308132505.D872@uni-koblenz.de> References: <097a01bf87eb$ebe4d4d0$b8119526@ltc.com> <200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> <578601bf882d$d945f650$0a00000a@decoy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <578601bf882d$d945f650$0a00000a@decoy> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 07:08:23AM -0500, Jay Carlson wrote: > Whether Linux or NetBSD, as systems, were ever serious MIPS run-time > systems---well, you wrote the book, so I'm inclined to get out of the > argument. > > >From my LinuxCE perspective, a full FP emu is fairly important for getting > binary compatibility back with mainline Linux/MIPS---we've been in the > softfp ghetto. But most of what we do with FP is, uh, keep /bin/df happy > when it tries to calculate the percentage of free disk space, and the like. > And dropping softfp means we don't *have* to maintain a forked > toolchain/libc. Have you considered contribution of the softfp code to GNU libc or packaging it as a glibc addon? For small embedded systems it seems to be the better tradeoff than the kernel emulator and for these systems nobody cares very much about binary compatibility with something else. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 09:00:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:00:41 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:36127 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:00:20 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA09202; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:03:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA98172; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA87910 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA25367 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA09387 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:48:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:18:05 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:18:05 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Dominic Sweetman Cc: "Bradley D. LaRonde" , "Andrew R. Baker" , Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Message-ID: <20000308131805.C872@uni-koblenz.de> References: <097a01bf87eb$ebe4d4d0$b8119526@ltc.com> <200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <200003071022.KAA00275@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:22:22AM +0000, Dominic Sweetman wrote: > Bradley D. LaRonde (brad@ltc.com) writes (re the FPA emulator out of > Algorithmics via Kevin Kissell): > > > I would jump right on this but I really need it for 2.3.47+. > > It's good to see our donation to the Linux project being taken up > enthusiastically , but didn't SGI have some code like this? They even have two emulators, an old one written in assembler and a newer one written in C. I haven't looked more closely but I think that they're both full emulators and the (C) situation would allow me to reuse the code for Linux. In any case, it's a non-trivial piece of code, so I want to double check with them. > I mean, you can't have a serious MIPS run-time system without an FP > emulator, can you? Depends. After a few years without this FPU stuff we've found only a surprisingly small number of applications that run into problems. After all the only FPU instruction many programs execute is $fcr31. Just configuring all the kernel FPU code away therefore is a good thing for many embedded configurations. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 09:18:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:18:31 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:7261 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:18:10 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA09250; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:13:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA04396 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:04:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA79274 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net) Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA08715 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:04:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via hn51-27.Hoorn.NL.net [193.79.46.191] with ESMTP id SAA22981 (8.8.8/3.41); Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:04:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost(really [127.0.0.1]) by whale.dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:02:47 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:02:46 +0100 (MET) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: "Kevin D. Kissell" cc: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available In-Reply-To: <025701bf88e2$c648a7e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > It's odd - I'm on at least one of the mailing lists in question, but I missed > part of this thread yesterday - such as Bradley's message, and another > that must have come from someone (Dom?) at Algorithmics. Yep, you can read the thread that went through fnet.fr on the mailing list archive, including Dom's message, at http://web.inter.nl.net/users/schnecke/fnet-mips/2000-03/thread.html with user mips and password rules. Regards, Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 09:31:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:31:31 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:13666 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:31:09 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA11137; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:26:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA15811 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA68563 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:21:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA00609 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:21:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:20:34 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:20:34 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: eak@sgi.com Cc: Richard Hartensveld , Linux SGI Subject: Re: Website Message-ID: <20000308142034.B1617@uni-koblenz.de> References: <38C628EC.9D5D4240@clearviewcc.com> <38C66871.FE85BAFE@detroit.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <38C66871.FE85BAFE@detroit.sgi.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 09:49:21AM -0500, Eric Kimminau wrote: > Since Ariel left, noone is updating www.linux.sgi.com any more. I > forwarded your note onto Steve Modica (GPS Linux manager) and Amy > Chung (Linux Marketing manager). The sysadmin who took care of the machine also left, so at this time I'm more or less the lord of oss. If there is anybody who wants to work on the web pages and documentation, contact me and I'll arrange things. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 11:00:42 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:00:22 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:10032 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:00:00 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA00894; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:03:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA25886; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA44066 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:43:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA53940 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:43:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA02672 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:43:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port69.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.69]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09244; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:42:49 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <025701bf88e2$c648a7e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:43:39 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi Kevin, On 08-Mar-00 Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > Anyway, the my CPU detection would certainly not have worked for > a Mobilon. But it ought to have worked for a DECstation. What > CPU does it have? In addition to the cpu_probe() routine itself, > arch/mips/kernel/cpu_probe.c contains a table that describes the > CPU's that are recognized, and in principle it "knows" all the CPUs > that were recognized by the old assembler code in head.S, plus > a couple more (R4300 and MIPS 4Kc/5Kc). The problem may > be a CPU that is mis-identified, or it may be that the options in the > table associated with that CPU are incorrectly defined. Please > let me know what CPU and "PrID" the system has. Been there, done that. It was just a missing case statement that got lost during the merge :-) For the records (Sharp Mobilon HC-4500): Philips PR31700 (identical to Toshiba TMPR3912) @ 73.7 MHz, Implementation 0x22 (same as R46[45]0), Revision 0x10 (does anybody know what R46[45]0 have?). Based on an R300A core with some ISA-II extensions, 1KB instruction cache, and 4KB write-through data cache, 32 TLB entries. Back on topic: My Mobilon dies horribly with the screen going blank and even a soft reset doesn't revive it. All that helps is to remove all batteries. No error messages can be seen. My DS 5000/133 (R3000A) with FPU disabled and FPU emulation shows: Illegal instruction 00000034 at 801ce924, ... System.map shows: 801ce920 b dsemul_insns 801ce928 b dsemul_cpc Looks like your trick in mips_dsemul() doesn't work too well for ISA-I CPUs. Do you have an idea for an alternative? -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 12:22:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:22:22 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:43577 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:22:07 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA06936; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:25:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA00723 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:10:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA18083 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:10:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA06810 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:10:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA04767; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA07519; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:09:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" Cc: "Linux SGI" , , Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:12:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >For the records (Sharp Mobilon HC-4500): > >Philips PR31700 (identical to Toshiba TMPR3912) @ 73.7 MHz, Implementation 0x22 >(same as R46[45]0), Revision 0x10 (does anybody know what R46[45]0 have?). > >Based on an R300A core with some ISA-II extensions, 1KB instruction cache, and >4KB write-through data cache, 32 TLB entries. If Philips/Tosh are really aliasing the PrID of the R4650, sombody has done something Deeply Evil (and probably in violation of one agreement or another). I'm checking with MIPS HQ on this, and hoping that in fact the R4650 value in the source code is in error. If the Implementations *do* collide, we can still cope as long as the revision codes do not. The cpu_probe code first looks for a match on Implementation+Revision, and then, that failing, looks for a match on implementation alone. So we could contrive to have 0x2210 resolve to CPU_R3900 and all other 0x22xx values to the R4650. But I don't like it one bit. >Back on topic: > >My Mobilon dies horribly with the screen going blank and even a soft reset >doesn't revive it. All that helps is to remove all batteries. No error messages >can be seen. > >My DS 5000/133 (R3000A) with FPU disabled and FPU emulation shows: > Illegal instruction 00000034 at 801ce924, ... > >System.map shows: > 801ce920 b dsemul_insns > 801ce928 b dsemul_cpc > >Looks like your trick in mips_dsemul() doesn't work too well for ISA-I CPUs. Do >you have an idea for an alternative? Yes, and I should have thought of it earlier. The original Algorithmics implementation, in fact, used the system call trap vector instead of the Trap instruction vector to implement the trampoline for the delay slot emulation. Although I try to make sure that interrupts are disabled during the operation, I was less than 100% confident that I could prevent the Linux scheduler from executing, and stealing a seldom-used vector seemed more prudent at the time. In retrospect, I think I probably should have generated an Address Error. It'll be a pretty small hack - I'll see if I can't turn it around this weekend. FWIW, the current version of the emulator presumably might not have paniced on you - I recently put the trampoline code on the user stack where it belongs, so it can execute in user mode. I haven't got around to mentioning it on the web page, but you can find the patch on ftp.paralogos.com in /pub/linux/mips/kernel with a fairly self-evident file name. Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 12:54:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:54:02 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:59965 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:53:45 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA01110; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:57:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA17706 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:44:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA10214 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:44:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA00653 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:43:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:42:51 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:42:51 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Tim Wilkinson Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Mips/Linux integration of latest GCC, Binutils & GLibc Message-ID: <20000308174251.A6399@uni-koblenz.de> References: <38C54F05.458A3EFE@transvirtual.com> <20000308140301.B1425@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6A5D4.F08DFCE4@transvirtual.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <38C6A5D4.F08DFCE4@transvirtual.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 07:11:16PM +0000, Tim Wilkinson wrote: > So here's my basic problem. GCC, Binutils and GLIBC don't really agree about > PIC nature of code. GCC seems to default to PIC unless you say -no-pic, but > even then doesn't remove the -KPIC flag to the assembler. GLIBC requires the > PIC symbol to be defined otherwise it uses non-pic assembly code which won't > compile with the -KPIC flag to the assembler (there are also a bunch of > linux/glibc compatiblity issues we won't get into right now). > > So my questions is - should GCC by default generate non-pic code or should it > generate PIC code by default? If it generate PIC by default it needs to > define PIC and __PIC__ ... but this will cause problems when building a > static version of GLIBC (even though it's really a PIC version). > > I would want to do the following - gcc by default doesn't build PIC code, > fix the -KPIC flag to be passed only when generating PIC code, and make a > few minor changes to GLIBC to allow all this to happen. You cannot mix pic and non-pic code on MIPS, so it must generate PIC code by default and that is also pass PIC / __PIC__ / -KPIC by default. That's what the real compilers (not the abortion in egcs-cvs) do. That is static vs shared and pic vs. non-pic code are orthogonal issues except that you cannot generate shared libs from non-pic code. They always have been except that the way things are handled on other architectures doesn't make recognizing this fact very important. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 14:45:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:45:33 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:24644 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:45:11 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA23631; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA90002; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA03467 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:25:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA77528 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:25:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nop@nop.com) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA05886 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:25:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (nop@nop.com) Received: from decoy (h00a0cc39f081.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.252.183]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA17596; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:24:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <59c501bf894d$31be85c0$0a00000a@decoy> From: "Jay Carlson" To: "Ralf Baechle" , "Tim Wilkinson" Cc: , , References: <38C54F05.458A3EFE@transvirtual.com> <20000308140301.B1425@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6A5D4.F08DFCE4@transvirtual.com> <20000308174251.A6399@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6BE35.C58B0630@transvirtual.com> <20000308180850.D6399@uni-koblenz.de> Subject: Re: Mips/Linux integration of latest GCC, Binutils & GLibc Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:25:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > > Okay this makes sense. This then means there's a problem with GLIBC since it > > excludes certain files when building a static library but unfortuantely > > needs them because it uses #ifdef PIC to include bits of code related to > > shared library workings (essentially it considers PIC to mean SHARED when > > this may not infact be the case - not for MIPS anyway). > > > > So what you're saying is pretty much how I have my gcc, binutils and glibc > > set up - I introduced a -DSHARED to glibc (which I suspect isn't really > > okay) when building shared libraries so static libraries didn't include > > the bad code. I may look for a better solution however. > > Indeed. The problem is just that Ulrich drepper didn't accept such a patch > the last time I sent it to him. > > > I've also made a bunch of elf related changes to mips/linux so that the > > assembler output from gcc is more like the elf output for the x86/linux > > targets. It's interesting to note that mips/linux doesn't even defined > > linux for CPP (and doesn't do a bunch of other stuff either come to that) > > which confused things no end when compiling the linux kernel. The mips-linux configuration in gcc 2.95.x out of the box is just awful. It was obviously never tested against a full rebuild of the system, or in fact any significant rebuild. > Go to oss.sgi.com and get /pub/linux/mips/src/egcs/egcs-1.0.3a-2.diff.gz > and integrate that with a current egcs. This is what most people are > using and is known to work. It generates assembler output that is known > to be working with binutils and even halfway human-readable as far as this > can be said from compiler output. You'll also find binutils test patches > for more current releases there. As Ralf sez, because MIPS PIC and non-PIC code can't intercall, generation of non-PIC code for use in static libraries is incorrect, unless EVERYTHING you're linking is non-PIC. Most people feel that giving up shared libraries is too high a price for the potential gain in code density and efficiency from non-PIC/non-ABI builds. Me, I still have lingering doubts, but I don't have working code yet, so... I did a port/translation/reinterpretation of Ralf's configuration in egcs-1.0.3a-2 for gcc 2.95.1. My take on this, as expressed in ftp://ftp.place.org/pub/nop/linuxce/gcc-2.95.1-interim-990916.patch.gz , is that gcc should always build as PIC, unless some Makefile etc really does want to ask for the non-PIC lossage. The primary flag for controlling this in my config is -mabicalls/-mno-abicalls. -mabicalls is the default (as it was in Ralf's config). -D__PIC__ and -D__pic__ are asserted unless -mno-abicalls is set (which also implies -fno-pic). glibc is happy with this. So is the kernel. And random makefiles, libtool, autoconf, etc, can happily build with their bogus -fpic or -fPIC options from other platforms and not break anything. Originally I thought that it would not be necessary to ever pass -KPIC to the assembler; at the top of each PIC/abicalls assembly file GCC produces, it sticks in a ".abicalls" directive which has the same effect as the -KPIC option. That worked just great until I encountered .S files that didn't have that directive and didn't know any better, so I had to put the -KPIC back in :-( Jay From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 8 15:15:53 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:15:43 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:60750 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:15:18 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ([192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA04567; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:18:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA10995 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:00:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA27300 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:00:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA00644 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:00:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:59:46 -0300 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:59:46 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jay Carlson Cc: Tim Wilkinson , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Mips/Linux integration of latest GCC, Binutils & GLibc Message-ID: <20000308195946.A8173@uni-koblenz.de> References: <38C54F05.458A3EFE@transvirtual.com> <20000308140301.B1425@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6A5D4.F08DFCE4@transvirtual.com> <20000308174251.A6399@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6BE35.C58B0630@transvirtual.com> <20000308180850.D6399@uni-koblenz.de> <59c501bf894d$31be85c0$0a00000a@decoy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <59c501bf894d$31be85c0$0a00000a@decoy> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 05:25:18PM -0500, Jay Carlson wrote: > As Ralf sez, because MIPS PIC and non-PIC code can't intercall, generation > of non-PIC code for use in static libraries is incorrect, unless > EVERYTHING you're linking is non-PIC. Most people feel that giving up > shared libraries is too high a price for the potential gain in code > density and efficiency from non-PIC/non-ABI builds. Me, I still have > lingering doubts, but I don't have working code yet, so... Even if just two programs are sharing libc you're already on the winning side. > Originally I thought that it would not be necessary to ever pass -KPIC to > the assembler; at the top of each PIC/abicalls assembly file GCC produces, > it sticks in a ".abicalls" directive which has the same effect as the > -KPIC option. That worked just great until I encountered .S files that > didn't have that directive and didn't know any better, so I had to put the > -KPIC back in :-( We've got assembler files that without any change can be assembled both into pic and non-pic code, so the caller of the assembler should handle this. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 9 02:39:35 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:39:18 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:4668 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:38:50 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA17652; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:34:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA99357 for linux-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:00:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA37705 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:00:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA06693 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:00:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA19318; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id CAA20589; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <007701bf89ae$ae3d9710$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Dominic Sweetman" Cc: "Harald Koerfgen" , "Linux SGI" , , Subject: R39xx and Processor IDs (was Re: FP emulation patch available) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:03:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> If Philips/Tosh are really aliasing the PrID of the R4650, sombody >> has done something Deeply Evil (and probably in violation of one >> agreement or another). I'm checking with MIPS HQ on this, and >> hoping that in fact the R4650 value in the source code is in error. > >The R3900 should be 34 (decimal). We don't have a record of the >R4640/4650, which must surely be the same as each other. The collision is real. As has been noted elsewhere in this thread, the R4640/4650 has no business running Linux, as it lacks a page-based MMU. I had a bit of "cognative dissonance" when I did the conversion to the C-based system, but I left it in, figuring it was better to preserve partial support than to eliminate all trace of it. But I think it could be argued that the R3900 characteristics should go into the table in place of those for the R4650 (which are anyway wrong bacause they indicate that there is a TLB). Those characteristics should be essentially the same as those for the R3000A. >Probably not. But this is a good chance to ride a favourite hobby >horse... > >But I think code should *never* read the PRId value. > >It often doesn't change when the chip does, and often changes when the >chip doesn't. There's no guarantee that it marks the difference you >care about, and if it does now there's no guarantee it will do so >tomorrow. Chip companies change it (or don't) for marketing reasons >more often than technical ones. > >Instead, software should contain probes for individual attributes. >Want to know whether you've got an R4000-style CP0? Read the 'count' >register and see is it counting. Want to know how large the cache is? >Easy to look for wraparound on an R3000; on an R4000, if you can't be >bothered to do the rather elaborate code, use the Config register. >Want to know whether the cache is 2-way set associative? It usually >doesn't matter, so remain in happy ignorance. How big is the TLB? >read and write to it and see when it wraps. And so on. > >[Nobody will listen, probably rightly - I don't seem to have time to > hack code any more...] I quite sympthise with your frustration, and indeed the sloppy use of PrID by various MIPS licensees makes it impossible to use *only* the PrID to determine things like cache size. That having been said, I don't see it as being practical to dynamically probe for, say, the CP0 hazards to be respected in the TLB miss handler. Probing for the TLB size may not be as simple as you think: there's nothing that says that access to index N+1 is going to *necessarily* wrap to 0 - that's an implementation detail. Similarly, testing for the presence or absence of an FPU *might* be as simple as setting the CU1 bit and seeing if it can be read back, but I'm aware of at least one MIPS-based design where there's a flip-flop there even without an FPU. Sometimes one *does* care about the associativity of a cache, as in the case where one wants to flush all possible virtual aliases of an address. Etc, etc. The PrID has been horribly abused, and can not be treated as if it were a true architectural mechanism for distinguishing implementations, but it remains at minimum one of the tools available to the OS to determine where it is running. With the newer MIPS32 and MIPS64 CPUs, we have codified mechanisms for determining most of the information in the mips_cpu structure based on extended configuration information from the core. Most of the MIPS licensees have agreed to use this system for future designs. But so long as Linux is going to be used on older CPUs, which will be for a while, I fear we will be stuck with a mixture of PrID and heuristics. Regards, Kevin K. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 9 03:25:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:25:36 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:57153 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:25:04 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA20676; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:20:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA24221; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA42608 for linux-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:50:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA47612 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:50:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA00014 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:50:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13550; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:49:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:49:36 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: "Kevin D. Kissell" cc: Dominic Sweetman , Harald Koerfgen , Linux SGI , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: R39xx and Processor IDs (was Re: FP emulation patch available) In-Reply-To: <007701bf89ae$ae3d9710$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > The collision is real. As has been noted elsewhere in this thread, > the R4640/4650 has no business running Linux, as it lacks a > page-based MMU. I had a bit of "cognative dissonance" when Side note: do I hear `uClinux'? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 9 10:33:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:33:07 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:17448 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:32:52 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA01126; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA31292 for linux-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:10:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA04546 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:10:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA20838 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:10:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:10:19 -0800 Message-Id: <200003091810.KAA20838@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ralf Baechle To: Tim Wilkinson Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Mips/Linux integration of latest GCC, Binutils & GLibc In-Reply-To: <38C6BE35.C58B0630@transvirtual.com> References: <38C54F05.458A3EFE@transvirtual.com> <20000308140301.B1425@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6A5D4.F08DFCE4@transvirtual.com> <20000308174251.A6399@uni-koblenz.de> <38C6BE35.C58B0630@transvirtual.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:55:17PM +0000, Tim Wilkinson wrote: > Okay this makes sense. This then means there's a problem with GLIBC since it > excludes certain files when building a static library but unfortuantely > needs them because it uses #ifdef PIC to include bits of code related to > shared library workings (essentially it considers PIC to mean SHARED when > this may not infact be the case - not for MIPS anyway). > > So what you're saying is pretty much how I have my gcc, binutils and glibc > set up - I introduced a -DSHARED to glibc (which I suspect isn't really > okay) when building shared libraries so static libraries didn't include > the bad code. I may look for a better solution however. Indeed. The problem is just that Ulrich drepper didn't accept such a patch the last time I sent it to him. > I've also made a bunch of elf related changes to mips/linux so that the > assembler output from gcc is more like the elf output for the x86/linux > targets. It's interesting to note that mips/linux doesn't even defined > linux for CPP (and doesn't do a bunch of other stuff either come to that) > which confused things no end when compiling the linux kernel. Go to oss.sgi.com and get /pub/linux/mips/src/egcs/egcs-1.0.3a-2.diff.gz and integrate that with a current egcs. This is what most people are using and is known to work. It generates assembler output that is known to be working with binutils and even halfway human-readable as far as this can be said from compiler output. You'll also find binutils test patches for more current releases there. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 9 12:35:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:34:59 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:2361 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:34:39 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA09710; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:37:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA42610; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA22746 for linux-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA40408 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:20:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA09183 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port223.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.223]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19972; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:19:26 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:20:15 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi Kevin, On 08-Mar-00 Kevin D. Kissell wrote: [...] > FWIW, the current version of the emulator presumably might not have > paniced on you - I recently put the trampoline code on the user stack > where it belongs, so it can execute in user mode. Yes, but it would not have been so easy to find ;-) > I haven't got around > to mentioning it on the web page, but you can find the patch on > ftp.paralogos.com in /pub/linux/mips/kernel with a fairly self-evident file > name. Thanks, Kevin. I'll have a look at it. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 10 13:51:28 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:51:19 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:4922 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:51:01 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA00498; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:54:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA30932; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA15964 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:04:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA15203 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:04:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA07304 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:04:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA65599; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:04:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA05642; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:03:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003090203.TAA05642@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: "Harald Koerfgen" , "Linux SGI" , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:12:49 +0100." <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> References: <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:03:59 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing In message <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> "Kevin D. Kissell" writes: : If Philips/Tosh are really aliasing the PrID of the R4650, sombody has : done something Deeply Evil (and probably in violation of one agreement : or another). I'm checking with MIPS HQ on this, and hoping that in fact : the R4650 value in the source code is in error. The R45650 is evil incarnate :-) It doesn't have an MMU at all, so maybe that's how you can tell the difference. Warner From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 10 13:59:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:58:59 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:9229 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:58:51 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA02572; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:54:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA49674; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA21349 for linux-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:14:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA17154 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:14:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA06059 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:14:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA65675; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:14:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA05780; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:13:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003090213.TAA05780@harmony.village.org> To: Dominic Sweetman Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: "Kevin D. Kissell" , "Harald Koerfgen" , "Linux SGI" , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:23:15 GMT." <200003082223.WAA00605@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> References: <200003082223.WAA00605@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> <042401bf893a$b15465b0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:13:47 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing In message <200003082223.WAA00605@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Dominic Sweetman writes: : The R3900 should be 34 (decimal). We don't have a record of the : R4640/4650, which must surely be the same as each other. My IDT79R46[45]0 RISC processor Hardware user's manual lists 0x22 as on Page 4-10. I don't have any software that will boot on the 4650 that I have, so I've not actually checked this. I agree with your hobby horse :-) Warner From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 12 05:22:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:22:48 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:63610 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:22:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA00960; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:25:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA18064 for linux-list; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA03530 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA09773 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id FAA27906; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id FAA06611; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:00:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <008a01bf8c23$65dd01f0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" Cc: "Linux SGI" , , Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:03:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0087_01BF8C2B.C1CC7E70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BF8C2B.C1CC7E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >My DS 5000/133 (R3000A) with FPU disabled and FPU emulation shows: > Illegal instruction 00000034 at 801ce924, ... > >System.map shows: > 801ce920 b dsemul_insns > 801ce928 b dsemul_cpc > >Looks like your trick in mips_dsemul() doesn't work too well for ISA-I CPUs. Do >you have an idea for an alternative? I have come up with a slightly-less-pretty hack that uses the Load Address Error trap instead of the Trap instruction to force kernel entry in the delay slot emulator. It seems just as functional as the previous version (i.e. operational but "paranoia" finds an exponentiation problem), and is currently being tortured with crashme to see if it holds up under corrupted instruction streams and corrupted process states. I attach a pseudo-patch (cvs diff -c output) for the changes relative to the version obtained by applying the previous patches on the paralogos.com server, and would appreicate verification that it does indeed work on an R3K. If it does, I'll check it into the MIPS repository and it will be included in the next web distribution (and maybe our CD-ROMS). My apologies to those of you whose mailers can't handle attachments. Regards, Kevin K. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BF8C2B.C1CC7E70 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="cp1emu.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cp1emu.patch" Index: cp1emu.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: = /home/repository/sw/linux-2.2.12/linux/arch/mips/fpu_emulator/cp1emu.c,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -c -r1.5 cp1emu.c *** cp1emu.c 2000/02/27 15:19:18 1.5 --- cp1emu.c 2000/03/12 12:24:06 *************** *** 767,772 **** --- 767,774 ---- static unsigned int dsemul_sr; static void *dsemul_osys; =20 + #define AdEL 4 + #define AdELOAD 0x8fa00001 =20 int do_dsemulret(struct pt_regs *xcp) *************** *** 774,781 **** #ifdef DSEMUL_TRACE _mon_printf ("desemulret\n"); #endif ! /* Restore previous Trap instruction vector */ ! (void)set_except_vector(13, dsemul_osys); /* Set EPC to return to post-branch instruction */ xcp->cp0_epc =3D VA_TO_REG (dsemul_cpc); /*=20 --- 776,783 ---- #ifdef DSEMUL_TRACE _mon_printf ("desemulret\n"); #endif ! /* Restore previous exception vector */ ! (void)set_except_vector(AdEL, dsemul_osys); /* Set EPC to return to post-branch instruction */ xcp->cp0_epc =3D VA_TO_REG (dsemul_cpc); /*=20 *************** *** 811,833 **** */ dsemul_insns =3D (mips_instruction *)(xcp->regs[29] & ~3); dsemul_insns -=3D 3; /* Two instructions, plus one for luck ;-) */ ! /* Verify that space exists, or can be grown, on the stack */ if(verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, dsemul_insns, = sizeof(mips_instruction)*2))=20 return SIGBUS; =20 dsemul_insns[0] =3D ir; /*=20 * Algorithmics used a system call instruction, and ! * borrowed that vector. It seems more prudent, and ! * is simpler in Linux, to use a TEQ instruction, though ! * this does require a MIPS II CPU. */ - #define TEQ_R0_R0 0x00000034=20 - dsemul_insns[1] =3D TEQ_R0_R0; =20 dsemul_cpc =3D cpc; dsemul_sr =3D xcp->cp0_status; ! dsemul_osys =3D set_except_vector(13, handle_dsemulret); =20 xcp->cp0_epc =3D VA_TO_REG &dsemul_insns[0]; xcp->cp0_status &=3D ~ST0_IM; /* interrupt disabled inside dsemul! = */ --- 813,841 ---- */ dsemul_insns =3D (mips_instruction *)(xcp->regs[29] & ~3); dsemul_insns -=3D 3; /* Two instructions, plus one for luck ;-) */ ! /* Verify that the stack pointer is not competely insane */ if(verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, dsemul_insns, = sizeof(mips_instruction)*2))=20 return SIGBUS; =20 dsemul_insns[0] =3D ir; /*=20 * Algorithmics used a system call instruction, and ! * borrowed that vector. As that would be catastrophic ! * if a reschedule happens, a TEQ instruction was used ! * in early versions of the Linux kernel emulator, since=20 ! * Linux does nothing useful with Trap instructions. ! * That does not work on R3000s, however, so here we ! * steal the Address Error on Load vector and ! * generate an address error on an unaligned load. */ =20 + /* If one is *really* paranoid, one tests for a bad stack pointer = */ + if((xcp->regs[29] & 0x3) =3D=3D 0x3) dsemul_insns[1] =3D AdELOAD - = 1; + else dsemul_insns[1] =3D AdELOAD; +=20 dsemul_cpc =3D cpc; dsemul_sr =3D xcp->cp0_status; ! dsemul_osys =3D set_except_vector(AdEL, handle_dsemulret); =20 xcp->cp0_epc =3D VA_TO_REG &dsemul_insns[0]; xcp->cp0_status &=3D ~ST0_IM; /* interrupt disabled inside dsemul! = */ ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01BF8C2B.C1CC7E70-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 12 13:42:29 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:42:19 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:37387 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:42:05 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA02007; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:45:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA37795; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA94135 for linux-list; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:23:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA73252 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:22:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA05297 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:22:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port52.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.52]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11128; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:22:41 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <008a01bf8c23$65dd01f0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:23:34 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi Kevin, On 12-Mar-00 Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > I have come up with a slightly-less-pretty hack that uses the > Load Address Error trap instead of the Trap instruction to force > kernel entry in the delay slot emulator. It seems just as functional > as the previous version (i.e. operational but "paranoia" finds an > exponentiation problem), and is currently being tortured with crashme > to see if it holds up under corrupted instruction streams and corrupted > process states. I attach a pseudo-patch (cvs diff -c output) for the changes > relative to the version obtained by applying the previous patches on the > paralogos.com server, and would appreicate verification that it does > indeed work on an R3K. If it does, I'll check it into the MIPS repository > and it will be included in the next web distribution (and maybe our > CD-ROMS). After some minor patches it works fine on an R3000A (tested on a DECstation 5000/133 with 2.3.47) but my Mobilon (R3912) still bombs out horribly. Unfortunately there is no fully functional serial driver for the R3912 yet so all I am able to tell is that this box crashes so badly that even the CPU internal LCD controller is going wild. Either there are more differences between an R3000 and an R3900 core as I am aware of (quite likely), or this may have something to do with the fact that the R3912 definately has no FPU. Kevin, please forgive me this question, but has the Linux integration of the FPU emulation code been tested on MIPS CPUs without FPU? -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 12 14:02:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:02:39 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:52336 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:02:19 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA06831; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:57:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA62793 for linux-list; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:49:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA70513 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA09548 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:49:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA04755; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA08850; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:48:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00f301bf8c6d$35db4670$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" Cc: , "Linux/MIPS fnet" , "Linux SGI" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:52:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >After some minor patches it works fine on an R3000A (tested on a DECstation >5000/133 with 2.3.47) but my Mobilon (R3912) still bombs out horribly. >Unfortunately there is no fully functional serial driver for the R3912 yet so >all I am able to tell is that this box crashes so badly that even the CPU >internal LCD controller is going wild. > >Either there are more differences between an R3000 and an R3900 core as >I am aware of (quite likely), or this may have something to do with the fact that >the R3912 definately has no FPU. The R3900 is quite different in a number of details from the R3900A. It has a different ISA (MIPS II+ instead of MIPS I), a different pipeline and a different CP0 implementation. And the R3912 has its rather peculiar set of on-chip peripherals with, if memory serves, a somewhat obnoxious memory map. Do you have a set of documentation for the R3912? I do, but I don't know when I will have time to check it against the R3000 Linux code. >Kevin, please forgive me this question, but has the Linux integration of >the FPU emulation code been tested on MIPS CPUs without FPU? Yes. Of course. What kind of amateur fire-and-forget hacker do you take me for?!! ;-) Specifically, we've run it on the MIPS 4Kc core. Both big and little endian. We also ran it on R4400 Indys and R5260 Algorithmics platforms with the FPUs disabled in software. I'm not saying that it's perfect - I know it cannot be - but the emulator does not get invoked until very late in the boot process, just before init fires up, so if you're dieing early on, whatever it is, it ain't the emulator, and it isn't the lack of FP. Even without an emulator, the 2.2.12 kernel will get as far as trying to run init on an FPU-less machine. Regards, Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 12 23:55:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:55:07 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:44064 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:54:44 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id XAA08525; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:58:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id XAA07652 for linux-list; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:35:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id XAA25134 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:35:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id XAA03484 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:35:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA84014; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:35:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA85454; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:35:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003130735.AAA85454@harmony.village.org> To: Hiroo HAYASHI Subject: Re: R39xx and Processor IDs (was Re: FP emulation patch available) Cc: "Kevin D. Kissell" , "Harald Koerfgen" , "Linux SGI" , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:02:21 +0900." <200003130602.PAA07981@toshiba.co.jp> References: <200003130602.PAA07981@toshiba.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <85448.952932909.1@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:35:14 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing In message <200003130602.PAA07981@toshiba.co.jp> Hiroo HAYASHI writes: : I've checked this issue in Toshiba. As far as I could know, Toshiba : is using PrIDs which are assigned through the agreement between MIPS : Technology and Toshiba. I hope that the R4650 value in the source : code is in error, too. The R4650 from IDT is definitely documented as having a PrID of 0x22 in at least two docuements that I have in my posession. I have a R4650, but no software that I can easily boot to check it out for sure. : BTW Toshiba is also working for Linux on MIPS. Porting to TX3912, : TX3922, and TX4955 is done on our reference boards. We made a contact : with Ralf and asked him how to contribute our code. Our engneer is : now cleaning up code and I hope he will release it in these months. Cool. What's a TX4955? I haven't heard about that one.c Warner From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 00:44:29 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:44:20 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:20515 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:44:02 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA05367; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:47:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA47871 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:29:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA14959 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:29:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA04390 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:29:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA13762; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA12558; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:29:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002701bf8cc6$c2ef0200$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" Cc: , , "Linux SGI" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:33:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing As Ralf just reminded me by email, the Algorithmics/MIPS kernel FPU emulator is *not* SMP-safe. It borrows an existing (if seldom used) exception handler, and has only a single set of emulated FPU registers. I sort-of knew this, but had not worried about it, since to the best of my knowledge no one is building (or has built) SMP MIPS machines out of FPU-less processors. Nevertheless, a compile-time test, to blow up on any attempt at an SMP build of the emulator should always have been there, and is going in right away. Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, but it would not be all that difficult to do... Regards, Kevin K. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 06:01:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:00:54 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:4910 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:00:26 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA01161; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:03:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA55018 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:47:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA82486 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:47:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (lightning.swansea.uk.linux.org [194.168.151.1]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA17797 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:43:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from alan by the-village.bc.nu with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12UVAr-0007rR-00; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:46:21 +0000 Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available To: kevink@mips.com (Kevin D. Kissell) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:46:19 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de (Harald Koerfgen), linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (Linux SGI) In-Reply-To: <002701bf8cc6$c2ef0200$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> from "Kevin D. Kissell" at Mar 13, 2000 09:33:02 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP > version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, > but it would not be all that difficult to do... If you dont do it please add #ifdef CONFIG_SMP #error "Not on this emulator" #endif to the emu code - for the person who didnt know 8) From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 11:19:47 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:19:28 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:14678 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:19:22 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA05124; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:10:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA77544 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA16985; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA22532; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:36:56 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14541.13640.518144.418083@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:36:56 -0800 (PST) To: Warner Losh Cc: Hiroo HAYASHI , "Kevin D. Kissell" , "Harald Koerfgen" , "Linux SGI" , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: R39xx and Processor IDs (was Re: FP emulation patch available) In-Reply-To: <200003130735.AAA85454@harmony.village.org> References: <200003130602.PAA07981@toshiba.co.jp> <200003130735.AAA85454@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Warner Losh writes: > In message <200003130602.PAA07981@toshiba.co.jp> Hiroo HAYASHI writes: > : I've checked this issue in Toshiba. As far as I could know, Toshiba > : is using PrIDs which are assigned through the agreement between MIPS > : Technology and Toshiba. I hope that the R4650 value in the source > : code is in error, too. > > The R4650 from IDT is definitely documented as having a PrID of 0x22 > in at least two docuements that I have in my posession. I have a > R4650, but no software that I can easily boot to check it out for > sure. I have had the R4650 as 0x22 for quite a few years. It was my understanding that QED had all of the 0x2? numbers, but at least 0x20..0x23 and 0x28. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 12:34:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:33:49 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:38945 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:33:17 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA29140; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:28:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA08105; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA38375 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:30:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA16389 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:29:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi ([200.250.58.146]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA10139 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:25:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:57 -0300 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:57 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Message-ID: <20000313144657.E845@uni-koblenz.de> References: <002701bf8cc6$c2ef0200$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <002701bf8cc6$c2ef0200$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:33:02AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP > version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, > but it would not be all that difficult to do... It should be fixed if it's going to be used as the base for the kernel fp support we need also for the Origins. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 13:20:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:19:48 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:37174 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:19:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09135; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:14:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA93574 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:10:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA13209 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAB05857 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port38.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.38]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21564; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:04:54 +0100 X-To: kevink@mips.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:05:47 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: Alan Cox Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: < (Linux SGI) linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, < (Kevin D. Kissell) kevink@mips.com> Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 13-Mar-00 Alan Cox wrote: >> Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP >> version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, >> but it would not be all that difficult to do... > > If you dont do it please add > >#ifdef CONFIG_SMP >#error "Not on this emulator" >#endif > > to the emu code - for the person who didnt know 8) harry:~ > grep CONFIG_SMP linux/arch/mips/config.in harry:~ > grep CONFIG_SMP linux/arch/mips64/config.in bool ' Multi-Processing support (Experimental)' CONFIG_SMP SCNR :-). -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 13:41:38 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:41:19 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:14910 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:41:17 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA12568; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:36:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA21999; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA33237 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:19:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA41856; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:13:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA29284; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:13:41 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14541.19445.892133.659757@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:13:41 -0800 (PST) To: Ralf Baechle Cc: "Kevin D. Kissell" , Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available In-Reply-To: <20000313144657.E845@uni-koblenz.de> References: <002701bf8cc6$c2ef0200$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> <20000313144657.E845@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Ralf Baechle writes: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:33:02AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > > > Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP > > version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, > > but it would not be all that difficult to do... > > It should be fixed if it's going to be used as the base for the kernel > fp support we need also for the Origins. Yes, all MIPS CPUs with which I am familiar require at least some kernel FP support for certain corner cases and workarounds. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 14:35:28 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:35:19 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:32601 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:35:00 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA20611; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:30:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA52884; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA04183 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:22:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA90417 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA08552 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port138.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.138]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31454; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:21:49 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00f301bf8c6d$35db4670$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:22:42 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: Linux SGI , Linux/MIPS fnet , linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 12-Mar-00 Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > The R3900 is quite different in a number of details from the R3900A. > It has a different ISA (MIPS II+ instead of MIPS I), a different pipeline > and a different CP0 implementation. And the R3912 has its rather > peculiar set of on-chip peripherals with, if memory serves, a somewhat > obnoxious memory map. Do you have a set of documentation for the > R3912? I do, but I don't know when I will have time to check it against > the R3000 Linux code. Yes, I have documentation for the R3912. In fact, if I am allowed to say this, I wrote most of the R3000 and all of the R3912 code so far in Linux 8) >>Kevin, please forgive me this question, but has the Linux integration of >>the FPU emulation code been tested on MIPS CPUs without FPU? > > Yes. Of course. What kind of amateur fire-and-forget hacker do you take > me for?!! ;-) Specifically, we've run it on the MIPS 4Kc core. Both big > and little endian. We also ran it on R4400 Indys and R5260 Algorithmics > platforms with the FPUs disabled in software. That's exactly what I am wondering about. Does it make a difference for the emulator if the CPU has an FPU (disabled, obviously) or not? Personally, I don't have any idea why the emulator works perfectly on an R3000 but not on an R3912. > I'm not saying that it's perfect - I know it cannot be - but the emulator > does not get invoked until very late in the boot process, just before init > fires up, so if you're dieing early on, whatever it is, it ain't the > emulator, and it isn't the lack of FP. Even without an emulator, the > 2.2.12 kernel will get as far as trying to run init on an FPU-less > machine. Oh I see, I should have made myself more clear. I have a root filesystem on a CF card based on declinuxroot (a cut down RedHat 5.1) and my Mobilon boots all the way through to the login prompt if I delete the fsck from the initscripts. Booting into single user mode I can easily verify that tools like df or e2fsck are bombing out with floating point exeptions. My "tests" with the emulator have been so far: Does df survive? What does fsck do? and things like that. Well, with the emulator all these tools make the Mobilon crash. Hard. So hard that even the reset button doesn't work. Anyway, it looks like we will going to have a fully functional serial driver soon and that should make debugging somewhat easier. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 13 15:36:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:36:00 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:49791 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:35:48 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA09819; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:39:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA68297; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA36003 for linux-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:19:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA98779 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA09056 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA29449; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ulysses (par-c45-004-vty236.as.wcom.net [195.232.68.236]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA24576; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:18:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005a01bf8d42$c656d2c0$ec44e8c3@Ulysses> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Harald Koerfgen" Cc: "Linux SGI" , "Linux/MIPS fnet" , Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:20:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Herald Koerfgen writes: >Personally, I don't have any idea why the emulator works perfectly on an R3000 >but not on an R3912. Nor I, but in the absence of data, I'm happy to speculate. ;-) ... >Oh I see, I should have made myself more clear. I have a root filesystem on a >CF card based on declinuxroot (a cut down RedHat 5.1) and my Mobilon boots all >the way through to the login prompt if I delete the fsck from the initscripts. > >Booting into single user mode I can easily verify that tools like df or e2fsck >are bombing out with floating point exeptions. My "tests" with the emulator >have been so far: Does df survive? What does fsck do? and things like that. >Well, with the emulator all these tools make the Mobilon crash. Hard. So hard >that even the reset button doesn't work. There are two ways in which the FPU emulator is close enough to the hardware to be this sensitive to implementation. One is the way the emulator provokes an address error exception to execute a delay slot instruction following a simulated branch, but I don't think df or fsck do any branch-on-floating-conditions. The other is, of course, that it counts on getting sensible and recoverable coprocessor unusable exceptions. If the R3912 does something funky to the processor state on a CP1 unusable fault - an event that it doesn't have to deal with in its principal mission as a Windows CE platform - the results would be much what you are seeing. There are people at Toshiba who read this mailing list, so we can hope that they too are on the case and can maybe lend a clue... Regards, Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 03:18:14 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:18:05 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:54059 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:17:41 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA02507; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:21:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA87007 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:08:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA91606 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:08:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA02668 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:08:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id A02D07F6; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:08:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D09748FC3; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:04:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:04:30 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: boot success 2.3.51 Decstation 5000/150 - no login via network possible Message-ID: <20000314120430.A4321@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, i am able to report boot success for 2.3.51 on a Decstation 5000/150 (R4000) ------------------------------------------------------ Loading R4000 MMU routines. CPU revision is: 00000430 Primary instruction cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes) Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes) Secondary cache sized at 1024K linesize 32 Linux version 2.3.51 (root@193.189.250.44) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #1 Tue Mar 14 09:41:19 GMT 2000 On node 0 totalpages: 16384 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 12288 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Calibrating delay loop... 49.81 BogoMIPS Memory: 62316k/65536k available (1256k kernel code, 3220k reserved, 77k data, 56k init) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 12.5 MHz (no parity) slot 0: DEC PMAZ-AA V5.3d slot 1: DEC PMAZ-AA V5.3b slot 2: DEC PMAF-FA V1.1 Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.3 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096) Starting kswapd v1.6 DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03 tty00 at 0xbc100001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty01 at 0xbc100009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty02 at 0xbc180001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty03 at 0xbc180009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC SCSI ID 7 Clk 25MHz CCF=5 TOut 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) SCSI ID 7 Clk 12MHz CCF=3 TOut 139 NCR53C9x(esp236) SCSI ID 7 Clk 12MHz CCF=3 TOut 139 NCR53C9x(esp236) ESP: Total of 3 ESP hosts found, 3 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi1 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi2 : ESP236 (NCR53C9x) scsi : 3 hosts. Vendor: Quantum Model: XP34300 Rev: L912 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST15150N Rev: 8902 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total. esp0: target 0 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8399520 [4101 MB] [4.1 GB] Partition check: sda: sda1 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 > esp0: target 2 [period 200ns offset 15 5.00MHz synchronous SCSI] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8388315 [4095 MB] [4.1 GB] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 declance.c: v0.008 by Linux Mips DECstation task force eth0: IOASIC onboard LANCE, addr = 08:00:2b:28:f0:a3, irq = 3 Sending BOOTP requests.... OK IP-Config: Got BOOTP answer from 193.189.250.46, my address is 193.189.250.44 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused PROM memory: 124k freed Freeing unused kernel memory: 56k freed Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1) ------------------------------------------------------ The same problem as 2.3.47 and up applies - I am not able to log in anymore over network to that machine .. --------------------------------------------------------- (flo@ping)~# telnet repeat.rfc822.org Trying 193.189.250.44... Connected to repeat.rfc822.org. Escape character is '^]'. Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (DECStation) Kernel 2.3.51 on a mips Connection closed by foreign host. (flo@ping)~# ssh -v -l root repeat.rfc822.org SSH Version 1.2.26 [i586-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. ping: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config ping: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 0 ping: Connecting to repeat.rfc822.org [193.189.250.44] port 22. ping: Allocated local port 1022. ping: Connection established. ping: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 1.2.27 ping: Waiting for server public key. ping: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). ping: Host 'repeat.rfc822.org' is known and matches the host key. ping: Initializing random; seed file /home/flo/.ssh/random_seed ping: Encryption type: idea ping: Sent encrypted session key. ping: Installing crc compensation attack detector. ping: Received encrypted confirmation. ping: Trying rhosts or /etc/hosts.equiv with RSA host authentication. ping: Server refused our rhosts authentication or host key. ping: Connection to authentication agent opened. ping: RSA authentication using agent refused. ping: Trying RSA authentication with key 'flo@move' ping: Server refused our key. ping: Doing password authentication. root@repeat.rfc822.org's password: ping: Requesting pty. ping: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. ping: Remote: Client requested X11 forwarding, but the server has no xauth program. ping: Remote: This is usually caused by "xauth" not being in PATH during compile. Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could not be run on the server side. ping: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. ping: Requesting shell. ping: Entering interactive session. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed by remote host. Connection to repeat.rfc822.org closed. ping: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 97 bytes in 0.2 seconds ping: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 515.5 ping: Exit status -1 --------------------------------------------------------- Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 04:08:54 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:08:45 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:45101 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:08:27 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA04332; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:11:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA43902 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:59:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA65154 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:59:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be ([193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA01930 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:59:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04764; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:58:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:58:41 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Florian Lohoff cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: boot success 2.3.51 Decstation 5000/150 - no login via network possible In-Reply-To: <20000314120430.A4321@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > i am able to report boot success for 2.3.51 on a Decstation 5000/150 (R4000) > > > The same problem as 2.3.47 and up applies - I am not able to > log in anymore over network to that machine .. Aha, it's a kernel problem... I have the same problem with 2.3.51 on DDB Vrc-5074. I retried with some older kernels, and 2.3.47 failed as well. 2.3.41 allowed me to telnet to the box. I do have images in between .41 and .47, but they don't boot sufficiently far. Does it also happen on SGI? If not, perhaps it's an endianness problems? Both DS and DDB run in little endian. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 07:31:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:30:56 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:17258 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:30:39 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA11939; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:26:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA08919 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:18:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA40228 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:18:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA09437 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:17:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12319 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:17:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:17:24 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: R5000 stability problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing My NEC DDB Vrc-5074 board (with NEC VR5000) is still suffering from stability problems. If it crashes, it's always in do_page_fault(). If the board is running without much activity, it can stay alive for days. I once tried adding NOPs to the R5000 exception handler, as suggested on this list, but that didn't seem to make any difference. Anyone with a suggestion? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 08:38:56 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:38:47 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:4876 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:38:27 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA20509; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:33:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA20646 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:28:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA27157 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:28:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (themis.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.192]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA08399 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:28:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) From: natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx Received: from localhost (natorro@localhost) by themis.fciencias.unam.mx (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23496; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:30:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:30:39 -0600 (CST) cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Linux on the indy... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi everybody, I just want to install linux on an Indy, I asked before about running X with linux, and someone answered me that I could be done not natively but running the Xsgi server or something like that, my question is, where can I obtain information about this??? My last question is, can you give me some recommendations about my installation on the Indy, I mean, what to download and all that stuff, I think the SGI/Linux pages are a little bit outdated, I could help updating them but first I need to play more with it :-) Any help will be gladly appreciated Thanks natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 10:19:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:18:57 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:45135 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:18:34 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA04499; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:21:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA73402 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA15508 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:09:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from lappi (animaniacs.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00810 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:09:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:09:09 -0300 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:09:09 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Andrea Endrizzi Cc: "linux-mips@fnet.f" , "linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu" , Linux SGI Subject: Re: Help mips-tx39-elf-{tool} Message-ID: <20000314150909.A2418@uni-koblenz.de> References: <2472.000314@praim.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <2472.000314@praim.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:20:06AM +0100, Andrea Endrizzi wrote: > Hello Mips, ;-) 1) don't cc everybody on the planet .... 2) don't cc everybody on the planet ... > Excuse me, i have found your address in my long search in Mips > Developers Group. I make my apologies if i have wrong the address. > > I use a TX3927 Board , i try to write some little program ( led on/off ) and > work fine. I try to compile Mips Linux Kernel ( R3000 ) with mips-tx39-elf > compiler and i have some problem ... > > Is There anyone that have some experiences with Cygnus 98r2 for > Linux with target mips-tx39-elf-{tool} ??? Use the Linux/MIPS compiler for compiling the kernel or applications for it. Another compiler will most probably not work. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 10:24:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:24:06 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:62525 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:23:54 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA05794; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:19:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA94593 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA44501 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA08096 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:14:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port80.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.80]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07601; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:14:39 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005a01bf8d42$c656d2c0$ec44e8c3@Ulysses> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:15:32 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Cc: linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, Linux/MIPS fnet , Linux SGI Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 13-Mar-00 Kevin D. Kissell wrote: [FPU emulator crashes on R3912] > There are two ways in which the FPU emulator is close enough > to the hardware to be this sensitive to implementation. One > is the way the emulator provokes an address error exception to > execute a delay slot instruction following a simulated branch, but > I don't think df or fsck do any branch-on-floating-conditions. The > other is, of course, that it counts on getting sensible and recoverable > coprocessor unusable exceptions. If the R3912 does something > funky to the processor state on a CP1 unusable fault - an event > that it doesn't have to deal with in its principal mission > as a Windows CE platform - the results would be much > what you are seeing. Good Point. Thanks, Kevin, I'll look deeper into that. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 10:27:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:27:07 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:19776 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:26:49 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA06489; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:22:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA56437 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:15:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA35131 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:15:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA06191 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:15:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port80.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.80]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07588; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:14:36 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2472.000314@praim.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:15:29 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: < (Andrea Endrizzi) andreae@praim.com> Subject: RE: Help mips-tx39-elf-{tool} Cc: Andy , Cygnus Developers , Geert Uytterhoeven , Dominic Sweetman , Linux SGI , "linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu" , "Kevin D. Kissel" , "linux-mips@fnet.f" Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, On 14-Mar-00 Andrea Endrizzi wrote: > Excuse me, i have found your address in my long search in Mips > Developers Group. I make my apologies if i have wrong the address. > > I use a TX3927 Board , i try to write some little program ( led on/off ) > and > work fine. I try to compile Mips Linux Kernel ( R3000 ) with mips-tx39-elf > compiler and i have some problem ... > > Is There anyone that have some experiences with Cygnus 98r2 for > Linux with target mips-tx39-elf-{tool} ??? No, not with that toolchain. Using the "standard" Linux/MIPS toolchain, on the other hand, I have been able to make Linux running on my Sharp Mobilon (PR31700/TX3912). See http://linux-vr.org for more details or feel free to ask me directly. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 14 11:01:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:01:27 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:60764 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:01:13 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA03762; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:04:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA94582; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA13746 for linux-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:51:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA25052 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:51:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lilith.dpo.uab.edu (lilith.dpo.uab.edu [138.26.1.128]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA07544 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (andrewb@uab.edu) Received: from lithium (lithium.tucc.uab.edu [138.26.15.219]) by lilith.dpo.uab.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07263; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:50:46 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:50:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Andrew R. Baker" X-Sender: andrewb@lithium To: Ralf Baechle cc: "Kevin D. Kissell" , Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available In-Reply-To: <20000313144657.E845@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:33:02AM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > > > Does anyone out there actually need/want an SMP > > version of the emulator? It's not completely trivial, > > but it would not be all that difficult to do... > > It should be fixed if it's going to be used as the base for the kernel > fp support we need also for the Origins. This should not be an issue for the design I am using for the hardware fp support. It will have a different entry point into the operation emulation code that will use the hardware registers instead of the software fpu struct. It will also only handle operations that should produce an unimplemented exception (this is not quite all of the fp ops). Ralf, from discussing this with you earlier, this should be SMP safe, but it should be checked anyway. I will try and get some code out this week. -Andrew From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 15 06:49:01 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:48:52 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:62019 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:48:31 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA08913; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:51:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA99880 for linux-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:35:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA62583 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:35:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (KevinK@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA08766 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:35:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (KevinK@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id GAA18032; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mips.com (copsun21 [192.168.205.31]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id GAA22295; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:35:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38CF9FA5.D6C74F1F@mips.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:35:17 +0100 From: "Kevin D. Kissell" Organization: MIPS Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominic Sweetman CC: "Andrew R. Baker" , Ralf Baechle , Harald Koerfgen , linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@fnet.fr, Linux SGI Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available References: <20000313144657.E845@uni-koblenz.de> <200003142317.XAA00644@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Dominic Sweetman wrote: > Andrew R. Baker (andrewb@uab.edu) writes: > > > ... It will also only handle operations that should produce an > > unimplemented exception (this is not quite all of the fp ops). > > Denormalised operands (for example) will cause any computational > operation to blow up (change sign, load, store and move will survive - > can you think of much else?). The requirement for MIPS hardware is > something like "you can throw an unimplemented exception in response > to any combination of operands and operation you don't like, so long > as it's rare". That's why a complete emulator is probably a good > idea. > > Dominic Sweetman > dom@algor.co.uk OK, I'm convinced. I believe I know how to make the Algorithmics emulator SMP-safe *and* more efficient in the general case, thanks in part to a suggestion from Ralf. Time permitting, I will also wire it up to the unimplemented operation handler. Give me a week or so to accumulate enough spare time... From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 15 07:18:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:18:42 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:18759 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:18:22 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA08676; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:21:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA55011 for linux-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:08:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA73825 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:08:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA08215 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:08:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29813 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:08:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:08:08 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Error: Branch out of range Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I'm trying to compile lmbench on Linux/MIPS(EL). Gcc (egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) complains about ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s: Assembler messages: ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s:4293: Error: Branch out of range ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s:40459: Error: Branch out of range At line 4293 it jumps to line 40460 using `j', which is obviously further then 32K instructions apart (and incompatible with -KPIC, which is always[*] used). How can I fix this? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert [*] Why is MIPS code always compiled PIC? -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 15 09:12:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:12:42 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:40056 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:12:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA13628; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:07:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA70050 for linux-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:01:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA06751 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:01:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA02626 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:01:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15539 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:05:12 -0600 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:05:12 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: instalation crashes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello I'm installing sgi-linux on an Indy (R4600), in a Seagate disk. I changed the id for sda1 from EFS to Linux Native, i also tryied creating a smaller partition in sda1 and 'w', then i pressed 'done' and the instalation program crashes with the next error: Oops: 0000 $0 : 00000000 1000fc00 00001000 ffffffe0 $4 : 00000020 00000000 1000fc00 1000fc00 $8 : 00000010 881095c0 00000001 00000001 $12: 00000001 fffffffc 1000fc01 89e31864 $16: 00000000 00001000 a9f5e000 89f5c800 $20: 89f5fe70 bfbc0003 00000000 bfb90000 $24: 00000001 2abe2f30 $28: 89e88000 89e89b98 89f5fe70 880fa8c4 epc : 88020f80 Status : 1000fc02 Cause : 00000008 install exited abnormally -- received signal 11 sendig termination signals.. done sending kill signals.. done unmounting filesistems.. done /proc unmount failed /tmp you may safely reboot your system -------- in Alt-f2, the message is the same, but preceded by: <1> Unable to handle the kernel paging request at virtual adress 00000000, epc==88020f80, ra== 880fa8c4 What can i do? Thanks for help Gabriel Nava Vazquez Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia, Mexico From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 15 21:24:24 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:24:16 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:50534 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:23:59 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA07911; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA42846; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA17972 for linux-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:11:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA67656 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:11:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (weave@eng.umd.edu) Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA05404 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:11:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (weave@eng.umd.edu) Received: from z.glue.umd.edu (root@z.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.71]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19839 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from z.glue.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28924 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (weave@localhost) by z.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28920 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:11:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: z.glue.umd.edu: weave owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Weaver X-Sender: weave@z.glue.umd.edu To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: /proc/cpuinfo cleanups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I noticed that my patch to add Indigo2 support to /proc/cpuinfo never made it into the kernel [http://www.glue.umd.edu/~weave/patches/patch_indigo2_support] I know Ralf said he'd like for the cpuinfo stuff to be completely re-written and the afforementioned support be added along with a slew of other features. I have an interest in /proc/cpuinfo, with linux_logo being one of the few programs that actively parses it. Linus has always ignored any of my attempted cleanups, apparently on the premise that "if it's not super-broken don't fix it". So I was a bit hesitant to start such an ambitious re-writing of the involved code, especially since I no longer have access to the Indigo2 machine I was working with. Well, this is a round-about way of asking, should I try to get my originaly patch included again, or should I try to scrape together some time to work on the more complicated problem? Hopefully I'll get a summer-job that lets me work on such things full time, instead of working on the sgi-linux stuff during my breaks... Vince ____________ \ /\ /\ / Vince Weaver \/__\/__\/ weave@eng.umd.edu http://www.glue.umd.edu/~weave From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 16 06:47:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:47:27 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:48217 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:47:13 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA09105; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:50:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA65407 for linux-list; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:30:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA20672 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:30:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from ig-1-108.sp.dial.psinet.com.br (ig-1-108.sp.dial.psinet.com.br [200.188.86.108]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA04689 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:30:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:29:11 -0300 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:29:10 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Error: Branch out of range Message-ID: <20000316112910.A842@uni-koblenz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 04:08:08PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > I'm trying to compile lmbench on Linux/MIPS(EL). Gcc (egcs-2.90.27 980315 > (egcs-1.0.2 release)) complains about No, as from binutils (all versions) coplains. > ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s: Assembler messages: > ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s:4293: Error: Branch out of range > ../bin/linux/lat_ctx.s:40459: Error: Branch out of range > > At line 4293 it jumps to line 40460 using `j', which is obviously further then > 32K instructions apart (and incompatible with -KPIC, which is always[*] used). > > How can I fix this? - Fix the assembler. Enjoy ... lmbench is faik the only real world program which triggers this problem so I've never been very motivated to fix this ... - Get a newer version of lmbench which does no longer rely on such insane large loops. > [*] Why is MIPS code always compiled PIC? The calling convention for PIC code is to always have the address of the callee in $25. This implies that mixing PIC and non-PIC code is not possible, therefore everything is PIC. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 16 10:09:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:09:10 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:3190 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:08:55 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA07937; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:12:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA08629 for linux-list; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:54:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA33944 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:54:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (themis.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.192]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA03065 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:54:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (daphnia.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.193]) by themis.fciencias.unam.mx (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02908 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:57:35 -0600 Message-ID: <38D12172.4E6FDD7A@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:01:22 -0600 From: Carlos Ernesto =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez=20Natar=E9n?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: can't install hard hat... :-( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I'm trying to install linux on my Indy, it starts very well, it gets the IP from my server (Bootp) it downloads the kernel very well and starts it, but when the installer starts to format the hard disk it finishes, and then in the blue screen appears a message that says, an exception ocurred, and it kills all the processes and after that it says: you can now safely reboot your computer. What can I do?? what am I doing wrong??? thanks natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 16 13:22:41 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:22:21 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:33600 "EHLO convert rfc822-to-8bit deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:22:00 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA04237; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:17:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA97007 for linux-list; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:07:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA38387 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:07:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (roehrig@cwi.nl) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA09971 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:07:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (roehrig@cwi.nl) Received: from godot.normed.de (hydra0.cwi.nl [192.16.191.10]) by hera.cwi.nl with ESMTP id WAA05385 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:06:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=godot.normed.de) by godot.normed.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12VhSa-00024k-00 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:05:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) From: Hein Roehrig X-url: http://www.cwi.nl/~roehrig To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:05:36 +0100 Message-Id: Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello *, I got Linux to run on an Indy workstation. Thanks for your great work! I have a few newbie questions though: . is there anonymous CVS access to the repository on oss.sgi.com? . are binutils-mips-linux-2.9.5-1.i386.rpm and egcs-mips-linux-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm the most current tools, fit for (cross-)compiling development kernels? . I don't have IRIX. Currently I am booting off the network, but I would like to make the machine standalone. Is there a way to install the Linux kernel on the local harddisk in a way that it can be loaded by the firmware without using IRIX? Thanks a lot in advance for any advice, Hein PS: of course I am also curious about what happend to the IRIX Xsgi on Linux... but reading the archives of this list, mentioning the X server seems to be a guarantee not to get a response... From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 08:29:35 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:29:25 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:49001 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:29:09 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA03327; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:32:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA70388 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:18:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA68876 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:18:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA00833 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA10351 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA12642 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:18:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00b801bf902c$ddb30140$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:21:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Invesitgating some non-fatal but odd behaviour, we have traced it to the fact that the defintions of various sigaction flags are defined for MIPS/Linux user code in /usr/include/sigaction.h, but defined for the kernel in /usr/include/asm/signal.h, and that the two definitions are not consistent. Does anyone know how this came about? I have the impresson that the /usr/include stuff in the "Hard Hat" distribution for MIPS is keyed to a 2.0.x kernel, and that an update of /usr/include (as opposed to a downgrade of the kernel headers) may be in order. Frankly, I don't like the fact that the user and kernel includes don't pull everything out of common files in include/linux and include/asm - I suppose it must have been to reduce the number of compilations that depend on kernel includes - but I don't see that we can do much about that from here in MIPS-land. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 10:17:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:17:47 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:53366 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:17:29 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA03129; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:20:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA84981 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:02:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA82666; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:02:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA08491; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:02:56 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14546.29520.79790.413087@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:02:56 -0800 (PST) To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise In-Reply-To: <00b801bf902c$ddb30140$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> References: <00b801bf902c$ddb30140$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Kevin D. Kissell writes: > Invesitgating some non-fatal but odd behaviour, we > have traced it to the fact that the defintions of various > sigaction flags are defined for MIPS/Linux user code > in /usr/include/sigaction.h, but defined for the kernel in > /usr/include/asm/signal.h, and that the two definitions > are not consistent. Does anyone know how this > came about? > > I have the impresson that the /usr/include stuff in the > "Hard Hat" distribution for MIPS is keyed to a 2.0.x kernel, > and that an update of /usr/include (as opposed to a downgrade > of the kernel headers) may be in order. Frankly, I don't like > the fact that the user and kernel includes don't pull everything > out of common files in include/linux and include/asm - I suppose > it must have been to reduce the number of compilations > that depend on kernel includes - but I don't see that > we can do much about that from here in MIPS-land. As near as I can tell, at least for glibc-2.1.1-7, there is not machine-dependent for mips, so the generic one is used, and the definitions are incompatible with the MIPS ABI. The Linux kernel, on the other hand, is compatible with the MIPS ABI. The cure is to supply a MIPS-specific . In particular, we need for mips: /* Bits in `sa_flags'. */ #if defined __USE_UNIX98 || defined __USE_MISC # define SA_ONSTACK 0x0001 /* Take signal on signal stack. */ # define SA_RESTART 0x0004 /* Restart syscall on signal return. */ #endif #define SA_NOCLDSTOP 0x20000 /* Don't send SIGCHLD when children stop. */ instead of the generic: /* Bits in `sa_flags'. */ #if defined __USE_UNIX98 || defined __USE_MISC # define SA_ONSTACK 0x0001 /* Take signal on signal stack. */ # define SA_RESTART 0x0002 /* Restart syscall on signal return. */ #endif #define SA_NOCLDSTOP 0x0008 /* Don't send SIGCHLD when children stop. */ This is just a symptom of the somewhat weak MIPS support in glibc and binutils. The generic source file is glibc/sysdeps/generic/bits/sigaction.h and the MIPS source file would be glibc/sysdeps/mips/bits/sigaction.h THere are probably other incompatibilities to be weeded out. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 10:36:27 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:36:08 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:7545 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:35:37 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA05715; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:39:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA24444 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA76791; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00351; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA12859; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA15321; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:25:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01bf903e$a0e864a0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "William J. Earl" Cc: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:28:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing William J. Earl writes: >Kevin D. Kissell writes: ... > > I have the impresson that the /usr/include stuff in the > > "Hard Hat" distribution for MIPS is keyed to a 2.0.x kernel, > > and that an update of /usr/include (as opposed to a downgrade > > of the kernel headers) may be in order. ... > > As near as I can tell, at least for glibc-2.1.1-7, there >is not machine-dependent for mips, so the >generic one is used, and the definitions are incompatible with the >MIPS ABI. The Linux kernel, on the other hand, is compatible with the >MIPS ABI. The cure is to supply a MIPS-specific . It's worse than that - the "Hard Hat" 5.1 distribution that serves as the reference userland for most SGI/MIPS/Linux platforms doesn't even have a /usr/include/bits directory, which seems to have been a more recent invention. Regards, Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 13:39:27 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:39:17 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:63533 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:39:00 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA00538; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:34:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA38777; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA67828 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:25:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA70993 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:25:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from adem.fciencias.unam.mx (adem.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.57]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA05697 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:25:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx) From: natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx Received: from localhost (natorro@localhost) by adem.fciencias.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00823 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:22:22 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:22:22 -0600 (CST) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: One more :-) In-Reply-To: <200003172121.NAA76616@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Just to tell everybody I finally install linux on the Indy... it runs sooo cool :-) Thanks to everybody for the help, as they said I just had to change my kernel image and that was it. Does anyone know how can I run X on my Indy/Linux box now??? someone told me I can run the Irix server on linux, can I??? Thanks a lot natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 20:31:21 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:31:01 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:9267 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:30:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA09161; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:33:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA36491 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:09:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA05014; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:09:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from dial-2-116.cwb.matrix.com.br (dial-2-116.cwb.matrix.com.br [200.202.9.116]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA00820; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:08:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:08:02 -0300 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:08:01 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: "William J. Earl" , SGI Linux Alias Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Message-ID: <20000318010801.B811@uni-koblenz.de> References: <000e01bf903e$a0e864a0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <000e01bf903e$a0e864a0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 07:28:38PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > > > I have the impresson that the /usr/include stuff in the > > > "Hard Hat" distribution for MIPS is keyed to a 2.0.x kernel, > > > and that an update of /usr/include (as opposed to a downgrade > > > of the kernel headers) may be in order. > ... > > > > As near as I can tell, at least for glibc-2.1.1-7, there > >is not machine-dependent for mips, so the > >generic one is used, and the definitions are incompatible with the > >MIPS ABI. The Linux kernel, on the other hand, is compatible with the > >MIPS ABI. The cure is to supply a MIPS-specific . > > It's worse than that - the "Hard Hat" 5.1 distribution that serves > as the reference userland for most SGI/MIPS/Linux platforms > doesn't even have a /usr/include/bits directory, which seems > to have been a more recent invention. The whole inconsistence was a stupid accident. Since apparently only very little software was affected negativly (read: no known problems) we didn't try to come up with some genious compatibility hacks but just fixed the definitions the hard way. Current glibc snapshots and Linux kernels have been fixed to use the same definitions. If not, mail me a brown paperbag. The bits/ subdirectory was introduced for glibc 2.1. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 21:03:50 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:03:41 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:37742 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:03:21 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA23760; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:58:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA31229 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:43:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA49475; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:41:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id UAA18778; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:41:24 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14547.2292.467349.391271@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:41:24 -0800 (PST) To: Ralf Baechle Cc: "Kevin D. Kissell" , "William J. Earl" , SGI Linux Alias Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise In-Reply-To: <20000318010801.B811@uni-koblenz.de> References: <000e01bf903e$a0e864a0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> <20000318010801.B811@uni-koblenz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Ralf Baechle writes: ... > The bits/ subdirectory was introduced for glibc 2.1. The bits/ subdirectory is present in 2.1, but at least 2.1.1-7 does not have a bits/sigaction.h for MIPS in the source, so the generic one is used, and that is inconsistent with the kernel. Which source for glibc has a MIPS bits/sigaction.h? From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 17 21:20:10 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:19:51 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:47731 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:19:19 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA25044; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:14:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA92664 for linux-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:00:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA15086; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:00:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from dial-2-116.cwb.matrix.com.br (dial-2-116.cwb.matrix.com.br [200.202.9.116]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA06345; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:00:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:59:43 -0300 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:59:43 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: "William J. Earl" Cc: Ralf Baechle , "Kevin D. Kissell" , SGI Linux Alias Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Message-ID: <20000318015943.A1536@uni-koblenz.de> References: <000e01bf903e$a0e864a0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> <20000318010801.B811@uni-koblenz.de> <14547.2292.467349.391271@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <14547.2292.467349.391271@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 08:41:24PM -0800, William J. Earl wrote: > > The bits/ subdirectory was introduced for glibc 2.1. > > The bits/ subdirectory is present in 2.1, but at least 2.1.1-7 does > not have a bits/sigaction.h for MIPS in the source, so the generic > one is used, and that is inconsistent with the kernel. 2.1 isn't supposed to be usable or even compilable for MIPS thanks to the infamous linker problems. Details on request. > Which source for glibc has a MIPS bits/sigaction.h? The latest Cygnus CVS development version has this and many other buglets corrected mostly thanks to Andreas Jaeger who did start integrating my old 2.0 port with the GNU sources and fix a ton of such buglets. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 18 04:15:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:14:52 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:3651 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:14:43 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA05534; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:18:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA35179 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:54:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA63786 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:54:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA00202 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:54:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id DAA29294; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id DAA28114; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:54:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005901bf90d1$269b2690$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Ralf Baechle" Cc: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:57:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> > > I have the impresson that the /usr/include stuff in the >> > > "Hard Hat" distribution for MIPS is keyed to a 2.0.x kernel, >> > > and that an update of /usr/include (as opposed to a downgrade >> > > of the kernel headers) may be in order. >> ... >> > As near as I can tell, at least for glibc-2.1.1-7, there >> >is not machine-dependent for mips, so the >> >generic one is used, and the definitions are incompatible with the >> >MIPS ABI. The Linux kernel, on the other hand, is compatible with the >> >MIPS ABI. The cure is to supply a MIPS-specific . >> >> It's worse than that - the "Hard Hat" 5.1 distribution that serves >> as the reference userland for most SGI/MIPS/Linux platforms >> doesn't even have a /usr/include/bits directory, which seems >> to have been a more recent invention. > >The whole inconsistence was a stupid accident. Since apparently only very >little software was affected negativly (read: no known problems) we didn't >try to come up with some genious compatibility hacks but just fixed the >definitions the hard way. Having two independent sets of include files between kernel and userland is always a bad idea, but is not *necessarily* broken, and sometimes cannot be avoided. The problem is not that the definitions are seperately wired, but that they are incompatible - the risk one takes when one creates multiple independent definitions. > Current glibc snapshots and Linuxkernels have >been fixed to use the same definitions. If not, mail me a brown paperbag. Certainly the hardhat-sgi-5.1-tar.gz archive on oss.sgi.com is out of sync with any MIPS/Linux kernel sources of which I am aware. The most recent version of glibc 2.0 for MIPS that I have been able to find is 2.0.7, and it too seems to be out of synch. Which version of glibc has been fixed, and where can I download it? Which userland distribution is built with the consistent glibc? Regards, Kevin K. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 18 06:23:35 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:23:15 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:29751 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:22:49 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA12772; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:18:11 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA97292 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:59:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA26826 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from dial-3-232.cwb.matrix.com.br (dial-3-232.cwb.matrix.com.br [200.196.1.232]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA00538 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:59:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:59:24 -0300 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:59:24 -0300 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: SGI Linux Alias Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Message-ID: <20000318105924.A5581@uni-koblenz.de> References: <005901bf90d1$269b2690$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <005901bf90d1$269b2690$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > Having two independent sets of include files between kernel and userland > is always a bad idea, but is not *necessarily* broken, and sometimes > cannot be avoided. The problem is not that the definitions are seperately > wired, but that they are incompatible - the risk one takes when one creates > multiple independent definitions. The problem before that was that using the kernel headers for userland was a serious problem. > > Current glibc snapshots and Linuxkernels > have > >been fixed to use the same definitions. If not, mail me a brown paperbag. > > Certainly the hardhat-sgi-5.1-tar.gz archive on oss.sgi.com is out of sync > with any MIPS/Linux kernel sources of which I am aware. The most recent > version of glibc 2.0 for MIPS that I have been able to find is 2.0.7, and it > too seems to be out of synch. Which version of glibc has been fixed, > and where can I download it? Which userland distribution is built with > the consistent glibc? Definately no entire distribution, I'm also not sure if I actually did publish a fixed libc due to another binutils related issue. I'm about to jump into a plane but could you take a look at pub/linux/mips/redhat/manhattan/RedHat/RPMS/glibc-2.0.6-4.mipseb.rpm from oss? Ralf (Up, up and away ...) From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 18 12:18:35 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:18:26 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:51027 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:18:11 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA04771; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:21:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA77026 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:56:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA78155 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA05623 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA05216; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA29849; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:56:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00aa01bf9114$8bc4b0c0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Ralf Baechle" Cc: "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:59:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> Certainly the hardhat-sgi-5.1-tar.gz archive on oss.sgi.com is out of sync >> with any MIPS/Linux kernel sources of which I am aware. The most recent >> version of glibc 2.0 for MIPS that I have been able to find is 2.0.7, and it >> too seems to be out of synch. Which version of glibc has been fixed, >> and where can I download it? Which userland distribution is built with >> the consistent glibc? > >Definately no entire distribution, I'm also not sure if I actually did >publish a fixed libc due to another binutils related issue. I'm about to >jump into a plane but could you take a look at >pub/linux/mips/redhat/manhattan/RedHat/RPMS/glibc-2.0.6-4.mipseb.rpm >from oss? > > Ralf (Up, up and away ...) I checked. 2.0.6-4 seems to be the same version as is in the hardhat-sgi-5.1-tar.gz archive, and as such is broken. Hope you're having a good flight! Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 18 14:27:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:27:28 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:26202 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:27:07 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA08417; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:30:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA72675 for linux-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA56749; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:02:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA26916; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:02:42 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14547.64770.154305.606794@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:02:42 -0800 (PST) To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: "Ralf Baechle" , "SGI Linux Alias" Subject: Re: Include coherency problem, sigaction and otherwise In-Reply-To: <005901bf90d1$269b2690$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> References: <005901bf90d1$269b2690$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Kevin D. Kissell writes: ... > >The whole inconsistence was a stupid accident. Since apparently only very > >little software was affected negativly (read: no known problems) we didn't > >try to come up with some genious compatibility hacks but just fixed the > >definitions the hard way. > > Having two independent sets of include files between kernel and userland > is always a bad idea, but is not *necessarily* broken, and sometimes > cannot be avoided. The problem is not that the definitions are seperately > wired, but that they are incompatible - the risk one takes when one creates > multiple independent definitions. In this case the definitions are supposed to match the MIPS ABI. That the glibc definitions (at least as of 2.1.1) do not is just a glibc bug. This is no different that having Linux and FreeBSD header files for some I/O controller, with one of them having incorrect values for some field definitions. The one which does not match the standard (the ABI or the I/O controller hardware) is simply wrong. Since glibc is shared among a great many operating systems, it really needs to be self-contained in regard to the C and POSIX and UNIX98 standards. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 19 13:17:44 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:17:34 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:50959 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:17:08 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA07131; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:20:36 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA71951 for linux-list; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:45:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA35870 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:45:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA06704 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id D7C6C7F6; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:45:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4F578FC3; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:45:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:45:10 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: header files state Message-ID: <20000319214510.B1365@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I am currently trying to waste some cpu cycles with blindly compiling packages instead of leaving the machine idle. Most of the packages (~1/3) fail because of the already discussed problems with the headers. gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -MD -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H -DFLICK_VERSION=\"2.1\" -I. -I../ ../../../runtime/libraries/link/iiop -I- -I../../../../runtime/headers -I../../. ./../runtime/headers -I../../../../runtime/libraries/link -I../../../.. -I../../ ../.. communication.c communication.c: In function `flick_client_send_request': communication.c:390: `SOCK_STREAM' undeclared (first use this function) communication.c:390: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once communication.c:390: for each function it appears in.) gcc -O2 -g -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -c -o additional.o additional. c In file included from /usr/include/sys/resource.h:27, from additional.c:14: /usr/include/resourcebits.h:103: warning: `RLIM_INFINITY' redefined /usr/include/asm/resource.h:32: warning: this is the location of the previous de finition In file included from /usr/include/sys/resource.h:27, from additional.c:14: /usr/include/resourcebits.h:102: parse error before `0x7fffffffUL' I am unsure where the problem is located exactly and how to fix it correctly - So probably somebody else more knowledged and timely equipped might fix this in the CVS (probably it is alread fixed ? - My CVS kernel is 3-5 days old) Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 00:38:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:38:08 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:29488 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:37:40 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA06282; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:33:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA92123 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA14517 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA08887 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA02946; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA10028; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000601bf9243$ba783f10$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Florian Lohoff" , Subject: Re: header files state Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:09:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Like the problem with sigaction definitions described in another thread, the problem with "SOCK_STREAM" seems to come from the fact that we're not on the same level of glibc as the rest of the Linux community. The "correct" definition of SOCK_STREAM is in asm/socket.h, but it is #ifdef __KERNEL__, and no alternate definition is available. On a PC, one can find it in /usr/include/bits/socket.h, but no equivalent exists in the MIPS glibc 2.0 universe. I have suppressed the #ifdef on my build system in order to bulid kaffe, etc. as it seems intuitively reasonable to have the same values used by user code as by the kernel, but I don't know it that's really what needs to be done. And I note with some concernt that, while in the PC Linux universe, asm/socket.h, linux/socket.h, and bits/socket.h all have the same definitions for the socket types (SOCK_STREAM = 1, for example), in the MIPS/LINUX kernel, SOCK_STREAM = 2, though there is still the definition, conditional on #if !defined(__KERNEL__) && (!defined(__GLIBC__) || (__GLIBC__ < 2)) that defines SOCK_STREAM to be 1. Fortunately, the probability of someone using non-glibc or glibc < 2 in a MIPS/Linux universe seems to be essentially zero. -----Original Message----- From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Date: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: header files state >Hi, >I am currently trying to waste some cpu cycles with blindly compiling >packages instead of leaving the machine idle. > >Most of the packages (~1/3) fail because of the already discussed problems >with the headers. > >gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -MD -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H -DFLICK_VERSION=\"2.1\" -I. -I.. / >../../../runtime/libraries/link/iiop -I- -I../../../../runtime/headers -I../../ . >./../runtime/headers -I../../../../runtime/libraries/link -I../../../.. -I../.. / >../.. communication.c >communication.c: In function `flick_client_send_request': >communication.c:390: `SOCK_STREAM' undeclared (first use this function) >communication.c:390: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >communication.c:390: for each function it appears in.) > > >gcc -O2 -g -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -c -o additional.o additional. >c >In file included from /usr/include/sys/resource.h:27, > from additional.c:14: >/usr/include/resourcebits.h:103: warning: `RLIM_INFINITY' redefined >/usr/include/asm/resource.h:32: warning: this is the location of the previous de >finition >In file included from /usr/include/sys/resource.h:27, > from additional.c:14: >/usr/include/resourcebits.h:102: parse error before `0x7fffffffUL' > > >I am unsure where the problem is located exactly and how to fix it >correctly - So probably somebody else more knowledged and timely equipped >might fix this in the CVS (probably it is alread fixed ? - My CVS kernel >is 3-5 days old) > >Flo >-- >Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 >"Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and >more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 01:47:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:47:48 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:41004 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:47:31 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA04807; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:50:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA94358 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:27:35 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA38679 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:27:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA04222 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:27:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA04188; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA10570; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:26:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004401bf924e$f0c526e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Andreas Jaeger" Cc: "Florian Lohoff" , Subject: Re: header files state Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:30:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >Linus has stated quite violantly that glibc should not include any >kernel headers at all - and we're now including less and less >headers. But this process needs time and occasionally breaks older >glibc's. What is Linus' rationale for his position? It's true that having includes "reaching in" from libc imposes constraints on kernel designers, but failure to do so is guaranteed to induce error - as we have seen. Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 02:32:48 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:32:38 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:34135 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:32:24 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA15992; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:27:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA18247; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA59440 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:07:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA37173 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:07:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA01859 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:07:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA24946; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:06:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:06:52 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: "Kevin D. Kissell" cc: Andreas Jaeger , Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: header files state In-Reply-To: <004401bf924e$f0c526e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > >Linus has stated quite violantly that glibc should not include any > >kernel headers at all - and we're now including less and less > >headers. But this process needs time and occasionally breaks older > >glibc's. > > What is Linus' rationale for his position? It's true that > having includes "reaching in" from libc imposes constraints > on kernel designers, but failure to do so is guaranteed > to induce error - as we have seen. The rationale is that you don't need to install Linux kernel sources to compile user space programs that don't rely on Linux-specific things. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 11:06:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:06:15 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:27478 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:05:55 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA05145; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA72564 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:18:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA60802; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:18:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA15500; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:18:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14550.27493.513601.286883@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:18:13 -0800 (PST) To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: "Florian Lohoff" , Subject: Re: header files state In-Reply-To: <000601bf9243$ba783f10$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> References: <000601bf9243$ba783f10$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Kevin D. Kissell writes: ... > And I note with some concernt that, while in the PC Linux > universe, asm/socket.h, linux/socket.h, and bits/socket.h > all have the same definitions for the socket types > (SOCK_STREAM = 1, for example), in the MIPS/LINUX > kernel, SOCK_STREAM = 2, though there is still the > definition, conditional on > #if !defined(__KERNEL__) && (!defined(__GLIBC__) || (__GLIBC__ < 2)) > that defines SOCK_STREAM to be 1. Fortunately, the > probability of someone using non-glibc or glibc < 2 in > a MIPS/Linux universe seems to be essentially zero. ... SOCK_STREAM == 2 is correct for the MIPS ABI (which has to do with some unfortunate choices made by AT&T in SVR4, and consequent binary-compatibility issues for various of the MIPS ABI participants). From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 11:36:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:36:26 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:8509 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:36:18 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA23259; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:31:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA37713 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from liveoak.engr.sgi.com (liveoak.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.24]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA09259; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:22:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from wje@localhost) by liveoak.engr.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA15792; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:22:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: liveoak.engr.sgi.com: wje set sender to wje@liveoak.engr.sgi.com using -f From: "William J. Earl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14550.27750.579401.146127@liveoak.engr.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:22:30 -0800 (PST) To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: "Andreas Jaeger" , "Florian Lohoff" , Subject: Re: header files state In-Reply-To: <004401bf924e$f0c526e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> References: <004401bf924e$f0c526e0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.74 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Kevin D. Kissell writes: > >Linus has stated quite violantly that glibc should not include any > >kernel headers at all - and we're now including less and less > >headers. But this process needs time and occasionally breaks older > >glibc's. > > What is Linus' rationale for his position? It's true that > having includes "reaching in" from libc imposes constraints > on kernel designers, but failure to do so is guaranteed > to induce error - as we have seen. In this particular case (MIPS-based systems), both glibc and the kernel attempt to be MIPS ABI compliant, so there is no real issue in having the various definitions in two places, since there is an external reference, just as there is for the processor itself. More generally, having a real ABI definition for the key system libraries, such as libc, is a virtue; it reduces gratuitous "innovation". Many architectures have an ABI definition, at least for the basics. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 20 12:13:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:12:55 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:29021 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:12:27 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA04425; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:15:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA88146; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA11501 for linux-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:24:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA91016 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:24:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA09406 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:23:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4BBB6820; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:23:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C65478FC3; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:22:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:22:08 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: boot decstation 5000/120 stops after SCSI Message-ID: <20000320202208.C1363@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, i have a couple of problems installing on a Decstation 5000/120. Having done this on a bunch of machines before i cant remember having this kind of problem before Here is the console output ... This DECstation is a DS5000/1xx Loading R[23]00 MMU routines. CPU revision is: 00000230 Instruction cache 64kb Data cache 64kb Linux version 2.2.10 (root@elrond) (gcc version egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)) #2 Sun Sep 19 17:51:32 MEST 1999 Calibrating delay loop... 19.79 BogoMIPS Memory: 14460k/16380k available (1232k kernel code, 428k data) Checking for 'wait' instruction... unavailable. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX TURBOchannel rev. 1 at 12.5 MHz (no parity) Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP Starting kswapd v 1.5 DECstation Z8530 serial driver version 0.03 tty00 at 0xbc100001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty01 at 0xbc100009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty02 at 0xbc180001 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC tty03 at 0xbc180009 (irq = 4) is a Z85C30 SCC loop: registered device at major 7 SCSI ID 7 Clock 25 MHz CCF=0 Time-Out 167 NCR53C9x(esp236) detected ESP: Total of 1 ESP hosts found, 1 actually in use. scsi0 : ESP236 scsi : 1 host. Vendor: QUANTUM Model: FIREBALL_TM2110S Rev: 300X Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: DEC Model: RRD42 (C) DEC Rev: 4.3d Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Here the output/boot stop suddenly - Nothing happens - Waited for at least 10 Minutes - Does somebody have an idea ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 21 09:44:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:44:42 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:48396 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:44:17 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA15063; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA02239 for linux-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:23:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA15854 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:23:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (knix_erik@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.8]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id JAA03745 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:22:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (knix_erik@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 72977 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 17:22:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321172223.72976.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.140.235.221 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:22:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.140.235.221] From: "Enrico Canardi" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy probs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:22:23 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi all I managed to get the first install screen un my Indy R4600. (hardhat 5.1). When it asks me which disk is going to be used (i have two disks, the second one empty and partitioned as described in the README file) and I answer /dev/sdc it crashes (also if i select /dev/sda !). Whi??????? Thanks Enrico ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue Mar 21 14:43:43 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:43:34 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:8755 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:43:18 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA01439; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:38:39 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA60192 for linux-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:24:17 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA87166 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:24:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA09437 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:23:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA11981; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA11488; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:23:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00f101bf9384$a2ec6230$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Dominic Sweetman" Cc: "Linux SGI" , , Subject: Re: FP emulation patch available Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:27:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> Denormalised operands (for example) will cause any computational >> operation to blow up (change sign, load, store and move will survive - >> can you think of much else?). The requirement for MIPS hardware is >> something like "you can throw an unimplemented exception in response >> to any combination of operands and operation you don't like, so long >> as it's rare". That's why a complete emulator is probably a good >> idea. >> >> Dominic Sweetman >> dom@algor.co.uk > >OK, I'm convinced. I believe I know how to make the Algorithmics >emulator SMP-safe *and* more efficient in the general case, thanks >in part to a suggestion from Ralf. Time permitting, I will also wire it >up to the unimplemented operation handler. Give me a week or so >to accumulate enough spare time... OK, I've done it, and it seems to work very nicely indeed. The combination of a real FPU with the Algorithmics emulator for the Unimplemented corner case has given me the first 100% successful "paranoia" runs I've seen under MIPS Linux. I also merged in some R3000 fixes that Harald pointed out to me. I'm holding off on distribution to give my colleagues some time to merge in some CP0 hazard fixes, but we'll be putting the sources and patches up on the web in the next few days... Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 22 01:34:33 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:34:13 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:62517 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:33:41 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA06520; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:37:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA94607 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:09:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA58939 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:09:23 -0800 (PST) mail_from (knix_erik@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (f279.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.157]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id BAA02715 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:09:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (knix_erik@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 13006 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 09:08:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322090857.13005.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.110.32.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:08:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.110.32.58] From: "Enrico Canardi" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Challenge Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:08:56 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi all I also Have A Challenge L with two R4400. I read that it's not currently supported but if there's anythink that i can do for the port let me know. Regards Enrico Canardi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 22 05:20:43 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:20:34 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:13674 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:20:12 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA00385; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:15:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA46095 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:00:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA37456 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:00:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id FAA02973 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:00:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: (qmail 28990 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 13:00:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO penguin.nl) (195.96.116.192) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2000 13:00:18 -0000 Message-ID: <38D8C418.FAA1CC71@penguin.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:01:13 +0100 From: Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: homemade kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, Why is it, that with the latest repository sources, i still get this: Exception: Status register: 0x300004803 Cause register: 0x8008 Exception PC: 0x881385cc, Exception RA: 0x88002614 exception, bad address: 0x47c4 Local I/O interrupt register 1: 0x80 Saved user regs in hex (&gpda 0xa8740e48, &_regs 0xa8741048): arg: 7 8bfff938 8bfffc4d 880025dc tmp: 8818c14c 8818c14c 10 881510c4 14 8bfad9e0 0 48 sve: 8bfdf3e8 8bfffc40 8bfb2720 8bfff938 a8747420 9fc56394 0 9fc56394 t8 48 t9 8bfffee66 at 1 v0 0 v1 8bfff890 k1 bad11bad gp 881dfd90 fp 9fc4be88 sp 8bfff8b8 ra 88002614 PANIC: Unexpected exception I checked the arch/mips/Makefile for the linkflags, but there's no -N there. Has it gone to some other place ? Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 22 08:03:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:54 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:52782 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:32 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA19851; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:57:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA47806; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA06365 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:24:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA32831 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:24:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from adem.fciencias.unam.mx (adem.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.57]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA02827 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:23:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx) From: natorro@adem.fciencias.unam.mx Received: from localhost (natorro@localhost) by adem.fciencias.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08020 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:17:12 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:17:11 -0600 (CST) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Installing GNU Pascal Compiler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I have just installed the Hard Hat distribution and now I really need to install a Pascal Compiler, I downloaded the source and the sources of GCC version 2.8.1 I tried to install it doing all the stuff it says, but when I do "make LANGUAGES=pascal" it complains about some flags, I took the flags out from the Makefile and after it it complains more, I don't really undestand what it says, does anyone here has installed this compiler sucessfully??? I typed "gcc --version" and it prints version 2.7.2 I haven't installed any packages apart from the rpm's that came with the distribution. Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks a lot. Cheers natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 22 10:49:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:36 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:15740 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:19 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA15996; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:44:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA66587 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:29:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA32151 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA03599 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:28:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01258; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:32:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:32:11 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: Enrico Canardi cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy probs In-Reply-To: <20000321172223.72976.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello i had a similar problem, i just disconnected one disk, (the one who caused the crash) and i could install hard hat. But i have now other problem, i boot via bootp():/vmlinux root=/dev/sda1 and the system hangs with the message: can't open an initial consolo what can i do? thanks Gabriel Nava Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Enrico Canardi wrote: > Hi all > > I managed to get the first install screen un my Indy R4600. > (hardhat 5.1). > When it asks me which disk is going to be used (i have two disks, the second > one empty and partitioned as described in the README file) and I answer > /dev/sdc it crashes (also if i select /dev/sda !). > > Whi??????? > > Thanks Enrico > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed Mar 22 15:40:47 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:40:38 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:28970 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:40:30 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA10862; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:35:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA50578 for linux-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:16:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA81145 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:16:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA05029 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:16:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-5.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-5.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.5]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28539; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:16:05 +0100 (MET) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:20:31 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Richard Cc: "linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: homemade kernel Message-ID: <20000322202031.A9050@uni-koblenz.de> References: <38D8C418.FAA1CC71@penguin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <38D8C418.FAA1CC71@penguin.nl> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 02:01:13PM +0100, Richard wrote: > Why is it, that with the latest repository sources, i still get this: > > Exception: > Status register: 0x300004803 > Cause register: 0x8008 > Exception PC: 0x881385cc, Exception RA: 0x88002614 > exception, bad address: 0x47c4 > Local I/O interrupt register 1: 0x80 > Saved user regs in hex (&gpda 0xa8740e48, &_regs 0xa8741048): > arg: 7 8bfff938 8bfffc4d 880025dc > tmp: 8818c14c 8818c14c 10 881510c4 14 8bfad9e0 0 48 > sve: 8bfdf3e8 8bfffc40 8bfb2720 8bfff938 a8747420 9fc56394 0 > 9fc56394 > t8 48 t9 8bfffee66 at 1 v0 0 v1 8bfff890 k1 bad11bad > gp 881dfd90 fp 9fc4be88 sp 8bfff8b8 ra 88002614 > > PANIC: Unexpected exception > > > I checked the arch/mips/Makefile for the linkflags, but there's no -N > there. Has it gone to some other place ? There have been various changes by other people working on non-Indy targets that haven't been tested on silicon. Similar I didn't test the last kernel merges on silicon but only made sure they compile. Will try it and fix asap ... Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 23 10:53:41 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:53:31 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:10521 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:53:05 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA09295; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:48:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA41581; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA15572 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:30:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA59197 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:30:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA06022 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:29:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06742; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:33:48 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:33:48 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: Guido Guenther cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy probs In-Reply-To: <20000323095817.E13328@bilbo.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Thanks All Finally i could install hard hat and of course i'm very happy, i had to install dev...rpm, via the upgrade program in the shell (alt-f2), then i did an e2fsck becouse i had problems with the disk. Now i have two problems: 1)pine crashes before send a message 2)how to run x? Thanks all again Gabriel Nava Vazquez Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia, Mexico From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 23 12:08:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:07:52 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:25470 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:07:31 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA04847; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:11:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA17082 for linux-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:48:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA72863 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:48:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA02070 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:48:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07325 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:42 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: sendmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi i installed sendmail.8.8.7 in my linux/indy box and when i try to send some message, i got the error: hash map "Alias0": unsafe map file /etc/aliases: No such file hash map "junk": unsafe map file /etc/mail/deny: No such file but the files does exist what can i do? is this the reason pine crashes before send a message? thanks Gabriel Nava Vazquez Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia, Mexico From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 05:11:26 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:11:16 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:15995 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:11:03 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA26690; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:06:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA48369; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA96139 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:47:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA72084 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:47:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA08134 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:47:34 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6C9CF7FB; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:47:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A742E8FC3; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:43:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:43:15 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems Message-ID: <20000324134315.A6208@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code is non functional. An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. (flo@ping)~# ssh root@repeat.rfc822.org sh root@repeat.rfc822.org's password: Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could not be run on the server side. uname -a Linux 193.189.250.44 2.3.99-pre2 #1 Fri Mar 24 13:12:06 CET 2000 mips unknown tty not a tty cat /proc/devices Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty/m%d 3 pty/s%d 4 ttyS 5 cua 10 misc 162 raw Block devices: 7 loop 8 sd 65 sd 66 sd cat /proc/tty/drivers pty_slave /dev/pty/s%d 3 0-255 pty:slave pty_master /dev/pty/m%d 2 0-255 pty:master unknown /dev/cua 5 64-67 serial:callout unknown /dev/ttyS 4 64-67 serial /dev/console /dev/console 5 1 system:console /dev/tty /dev/tty 5 0 system:/dev/tty I have compiled the kernel without PTY98 support: # CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set # CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS is not set This looks a bit different: (root@193)~# uname -a Linux 193.189.250.44 2.3.21 #1 Tue Jan 4 18:39:20 GMT 2000 mips unknown (root@193)~# cat /proc/devices Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty 3 ttyp 4 ttyS 5 cua 10 misc 162 raw Block devices: 8 sd (root@193)~# cat /proc/tty/drivers pty_slave /dev/ttyp 3 0-255 pty:slave pty_master /dev/pty 2 0-255 pty:master unknown /dev/cua 5 64-67 serial:callout unknown /dev/ttyS 4 64-67 serial /dev/console /dev/console 5 1 system:console /dev/tty /dev/tty 5 0 system:/dev/tty Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 09:35:47 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:35:37 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:34172 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:35:18 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA25130; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:30:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA05581 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:17:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA05513 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA02427 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:05:20 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port108.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.108]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04832; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:05:02 +0100 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:05:57 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Harald Koerfgen" Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: Geert Uytterhoeven Subject: Re: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, Florian Lohoff Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 24-Mar-00 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: >> still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant >> log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code >> is non functional. >> >> An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. > > I can confirm this on my DDB 5074. Does it work on SGI boxes? If yes, it may > be > an endianness problem (both DS 5000 and DDB 5074 are little endian). Same here on my 5k/260 but it seems to be neither an endianness nor a semaphore problem. I haven't nailed it down yet but with some hacks I am able to boot 2.3.99-pre2 on my 5k/133. To my surprise I *can* telnet into this box, hmmm... On the other hand, a kernel for the /260 compiled without CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSB (i.e. using the R3000 semaphore code) does not work as well. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 10:08:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:08:07 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:27412 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:07:48 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA29859; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA20286 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:51:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA20174 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:51:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: from smtpe.casema.net (smtpe.casema.net [195.96.96.172]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id HAA06636 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:40:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: (qmail 20775 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 15:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO penguin.nl) (195.96.116.34) by smtpe.casema.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 15:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <38DB8C91.8423BE78@penguin.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:41:05 +0100 From: Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geert Uytterhoeven CC: Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant > > log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code > > is non functional. > > > > An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. > > I can confirm this on my DDB 5074. Does it work on SGI boxes? If yes, it may be > an endianness problem (both DS 5000 and DDB 5074 are little endian). > Right now, it seems the kernel won't boot at all on SGI boxes. Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 15:36:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:55 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:17954 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:46 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA02252; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:39:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA17104; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA59221 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:33:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA69692 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:33:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jarwyp@charybda.icm.edu.pl) Received: from charybda.icm.edu.pl (charybda.icm.edu.pl [212.87.0.242]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA06663 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:33:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jarwyp@charybda.icm.edu.pl) Received: from kraken.lab.icm.edu.pl (kraken.lab.icm.edu.pl [10.0.0.231]) by charybda.icm.edu.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32144 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:23:56 -0500 Received: from pirania.lab.icm.edu.pl (pirania.lab.icm.edu.pl [10.0.0.220]) by kraken.lab.icm.edu.pl (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA11366 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:32:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jarwyp@localhost) by pirania.lab.icm.edu.pl (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id WAA25985 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:38:34 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: pirania.lab.icm.edu.pl: jarwyp owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:38:34 +0100 From: Jaroslaw Wypchowski To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Some basic problems with booting SGI Challange. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Cause i'm completely new to the problem i'm afraid i will put some complete idiotism. But the problem is : I've got a SGI Challange S (on R5000). It has: no cd, no keyboard, no eth, one aacp(i think), scsi disc, console serial ouput connected to linux and used with minicom. There is no kernel on disc. It is in network where i have for my disposition several MIPS'es R4000 and several other pltforms. What i need is to load a system onto the sgi. It would be great if it could be linux. But now i found several problems. First : To obtain linux i need an Irix on my SGI. Unfortunatelly i have none. Tried to boot it vie the network from one of my MIPS'es with its kernel and /var/... files All i received is that the kerenel started logging but ouputed panic and foult and died. What more about my configuration. sash on sgi is in version 5.3 and on that MIPS (called further pirania) i got 6.3 version of system. Oh - i don't have any IRIX installation disc's except 5.3 but have no SGI's scsi CD. Any hints and ideas of what could i do ? Solution that i "discovered" I think that if i've got working image of basic system installation i could put it into the sgi's disc from other computer with scsi drive. But i don't have such image. And have no idea where to get it from. This is my first problem. Next problems will follow after i deal with this one. thx for all help. jarwyp /\ \/\ Jarwyp@charybda.icm.edu.pl \ \ Jaroslaw Wypychowski. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 15:37:44 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:37:34 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:2851 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:37:25 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA05695; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:40:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA17615; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA08328 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:10:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA24491 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:10:21 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA04003 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:10:10 -0800 (PST) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA29955; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:08:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:08:55 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Florian Lohoff cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems In-Reply-To: <20000324134315.A6208@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant > log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code > is non functional. > > An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. I can confirm this on my DDB 5074. Does it work on SGI boxes? If yes, it may be an endianness problem (both DS 5000 and DDB 5074 are little endian). Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 17:14:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:14:26 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61710 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:14:10 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA06105; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:09:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA34255; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA65654 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:59:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA65577 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:59:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA09932 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:59:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.29]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA14373; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:59:29 +0100 (MET) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:58:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:58:55 +0100 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems Message-ID: <20000325015855.D19725@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000324134315.A6208@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <20000324134315.A6208@paradigm.rfc822.org> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 01:43:15PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi, > still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant > log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code > is non functional. > > An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. Can anybody provide an strace / tcpdump of the session? Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 24 22:46:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:46:27 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:60217 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:46:16 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA09277; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:49:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA10545 for linux-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:37:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA10625 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:37:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id WAA05141 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:36:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id D0EA47FF; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:36:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A3588FC3; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:30:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:30:09 +0100 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Decstation 5000/150 2.3.99pre2/ still login problems Message-ID: <20000325073009.B3060@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000324134315.A6208@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000325015855.D19725@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000325015855.D19725@uni-koblenz.de>; from Ralf Baechle on Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 01:58:55AM +0100 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 01:58:55AM +0100, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 01:43:15PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Hi, > > still the same problems - since the mid 2.3.4x kernels i cant > > log into my decstation 5000 - It seems the pseudo tty code > > is non functional. > > > > An telnet or "ssh" causes the connection to close if requesting a tty. > > Can anybody provide an strace / tcpdump of the session? tcpdump is uninteresting because the session just gets dropped as one can see in my ssh output. - Same applies to telnet and rsh. Hmmm - strace - I think i have to get the cobalt strace 3.2 as current 4.0 straces dont build Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 25 14:08:11 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:08:00 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:3851 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:07:39 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA17817; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:02:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA63575; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA94848 for linux-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:36:48 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA39880 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:36:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (themis.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.192]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA06739 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:36:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx) Received: from themis.fciencias.unam.mx (daphnia.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.193]) by themis.fciencias.unam.mx (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27768 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:39:28 -0600 Message-ID: <38D04A3F.42E3029A@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:43:11 -0600 From: Carlos Ernesto =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez=20Natar=E9n?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: How can I know my hardware address for my ethernet card??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing An stupid question... (sorry everybody) how can I know the hardware address for my ethernet card???? I just can't figure it out... :-( thanks natorro From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat Mar 25 16:26:21 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:26:11 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:34369 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:25:54 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA25439; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:21:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA39297 for linux-list; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:16:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA38992 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:16:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (miod@Montlucon-5-183.club-internet.fr) Received: from Montlucon-5-183.club-internet.fr (Montlucon-5-183.club-internet.fr [195.36.176.183]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA08857 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:16:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (miod@Montlucon-5-183.club-internet.fr) Received: (from miod@localhost) by Montlucon-5-183.club-internet.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA01678; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:26:07 GMT Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:26:06 +0000 From: Miod Vallat To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Ernesto_L=F3pez_Natar=E9n?= Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: How can I know my hardware address for my ethernet card??? Message-ID: <20000326002606.J1332@localhost.localdomain> References: <38D04A3F.42E3029A@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38D04A3F.42E3029A@themis.fciencias.unam.mx>; from natorro@themis.fciencias.unam.mx on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:43:11PM -0600 X-Mailer-Holy-War: Get Mutt, it bites! Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > how can I know the hardware address for my ethernet card???? > I just can't figure it out... :-( Start your machine, choose ``Stop for maintainance'' during aerly boot, then ``enter command monitor'' and type ``printenv eaddr''. Miod From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun Mar 26 18:02:59 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:02:40 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:58135 "EHLO convert rfc822-to-8bit pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:02:33 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA03650; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:06:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA23046; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA22492 for linux-list; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:50:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA22375 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:50:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA01002 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:50:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15012; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:54:23 -0600 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:54:23 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: Carlos Ernesto =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez=20Natar=E9n?= cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: How can I know my hardware address for my ethernet card??? In-Reply-To: <38D04A3F.42E3029A@themis.fciencias.unam.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hola Ernesto desde otra maquina conectada a la red ejecuta el comando $arp y salen las direcciones ip y hw de las maquinas de la red Saludos Gabriel Nava On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Carlos Ernesto López Natarén wrote: > An stupid question... (sorry everybody) > how can I know the hardware address for my ethernet card???? > I just can't figure it out... :-( > > > thanks natorro > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 27 13:09:26 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:09:07 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:14858 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:08:50 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA05756; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:12:27 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA07118 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:31 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA15880 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA00341 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA26511; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA11449; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <013201bf982f$fdf092f0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Linux/MIPS fnet" , "Linux/MIPS algor" , "Linux SGI" Subject: Linux now availabile on MIPS Technologies FTP Server Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:03:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing The semi-induistrialized 2.2.12 MIPS kernel from MIPS Technologies and a set of userland installation facilities are at long last available by anonymous FTP from the MIPS Technologies server at ftp://ftp.mips.com under /pub/linux/mips. The www.paralogos.com/mipslinux site has been updated with some explanations and links to specific subdirectories. As with the earlier snapshot I made available on the Paralogos server, one can download the full set of sources, or a patch file relative to the kernel.org 2.2.12 release. I also generated a patch file between the previous snapshot ("01.01") and the current code ("01.04"). The major changes between the two are in the kernel interfaces to the Algorithmics FPU emulator, which are now potentially SMP-safe (untested), more R3000-friendly, and if configured, the full emulator is used instead of the old softfp asm hack to handle unimplemented FP operations. There are also minor changes to fix a few bugs found in the course of torture-testing, etc. The other thing that may be of interest on the site is the genericised NFS install root archives for both big and little-endian platforms. These were set up for the MIPS Atlas development board, but should work equally well on Algorithmics or other MIPS development boards with serial ports, ethernet interfaces, and a hard disk controller. They were derived from the Indy install kit on the SGI site, but with the SGI dependencies removed. Well, almost removed - the big-endian fdisk program will only work if the kernel has EFS configured. :-(. Even compressed, these are huge files (250MB or so), but at least they are available. Instructions can be found in the FTP directory or on the www.paralogos.com site. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon Mar 27 16:37:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:37:32 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:45324 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:37:06 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA27561; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:32:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA88978 for linux-list; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:30:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA92476 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:30:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA05561 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:30:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.29]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12635; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:30:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:29:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:29:29 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Message-ID: <20000328022929.J3669@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000327210518Z305163-3992+178@oss.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <20000327210518Z305163-3992+178@oss.sgi.com> X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 01:05:04PM -0800, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Modified files: > arch/mips64/kernel: head.S > > Log message: > Use 16 FP registers as default. Please leave this flag set since 32 fpr is the default for the ABI64 code model. The right place to set this flag is in include/asm-mips64/processor.h:start_thread(). Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 30 04:48:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:48:01 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46641 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:47:44 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA27678; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:43:03 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA54718; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA63179 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:36:01 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA62401 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:35:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA05757 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:35:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id D14E67F6; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:35:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51E3B8FC3; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:27:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:27:05 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: resources.h patch / RLIM_INFINITY __KERNEL__ depend ? Message-ID: <20000330142705.B3530@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, again - short patch - RLIM_INFINITY - This is also defined in both glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 headers so it should be __KERNEL__ dependend - Shouldnt it ? Index: resource.h =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/linux/include/asm-mips/resource.h,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 resource.h --- resource.h 2000/02/04 07:40:53 1.5 +++ resource.h 2000/03/30 12:19:42 @@ -25,13 +25,13 @@ #define RLIM_NLIMITS 10 /* Number of limit flavors. */ +#ifdef __KERNEL__ + /* * SuS says limits have to be unsigned. * Which makes a ton more sense anyway. */ #define RLIM_INFINITY 0x7fffffffUL - -#ifdef __KERNEL__ #define INIT_RLIMITS \ { \ Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 30 04:54:50 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:54:40 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:17458 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:54:19 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA27979; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:49:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA90979 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:36:05 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA14888 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:35:59 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA00308 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:35:57 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5B0967F4; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:35:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E85448FC3; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:22:56 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: timex.h patch / CP0 undefined Message-ID: <20000330142256.A3530@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, could someone apply this patch to the cvs archive. This bites me everytime i am trying to build "ntp" or "xntp". Index: timex.h =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/linux/include/asm-mips/timex.h,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 timex.h --- timex.h 1999/02/15 02:22:14 1.2 +++ timex.h 2000/03/30 12:16:47 @@ -17,6 +17,8 @@ (1000000/CLOCK_TICK_FACTOR) / (CLOCK_TICK_RATE/CLOCK_TICK_FACTOR)) \ << (SHIFT_SCALE-SHIFT_HZ)) / HZ) +#ifdef __KERNEL__ + /* * Standard way to access the cycle counter. * Currently only used on SMP for scheduling. @@ -36,4 +38,5 @@ return read_32bit_cp0_register(CP0_COUNT); } +#endif /* __KERNEL__ */ #endif /* __ASM_MIPS_TIMEX_H */ Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu Mar 30 15:51:23 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:51:13 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:50022 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:50:47 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA20499; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA97112 for linux-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:37:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA63308 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:37:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA07780 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:37:37 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-2.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-2.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.2]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06930; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:47:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:47:15 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: resources.h patch / RLIM_INFINITY __KERNEL__ depend ? Message-ID: <20000330184715.A1600@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000330142705.B3530@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000330142705.B3530@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:27:05PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > again - short patch - RLIM_INFINITY - This is also defined in > both glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 headers so it should be __KERNEL__ > dependend - Shouldnt it ? Glibc 2.1 doesn't include , and 2.0 shouldn't do as well as per convention. So the fix is to copy the necessary definitions from kernel headers into glibc headers. Thanks for reporting this. I'm just cooking a new glibc release ... Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 00:52:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:51:58 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:6732 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:51:48 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id AAA07404; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:47:07 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA34865 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:39:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA35342 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:39:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA09369 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:39:28 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id F092F7F3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 420DC8FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:29:52 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: resources.h patch / RLIM_INFINITY __KERNEL__ depend ? Message-ID: <20000331102952.B273@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000330142705.B3530@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000330184715.A1600@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000330184715.A1600@uni-koblenz.de>; from Ralf Baechle on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 06:47:15PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 06:47:15PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > again - short patch - RLIM_INFINITY - This is also defined in > > both glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 headers so it should be __KERNEL__ > > dependend - Shouldnt it ? > > Glibc 2.1 doesn't include , and 2.0 shouldn't do as well > as per convention. So the fix is to copy the necessary definitions from > kernel headers into glibc headers. > > Thanks for reporting this. I'm just cooking a new glibc release ... My glibc does include asm/resource.h - This is default hardhat (little endian) resourcebits.h:#include This is what caused a lot of userspace builts to fail. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 06:31:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:31:53 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:63545 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:31:35 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA02986; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:35:14 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA59106 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:17:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA49669 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:17:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (C.Krapichler@rl.ac.uk) Received: from nameserv.rl.ac.uk (nameserv.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.129]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA01965 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:17:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (C.Krapichler@rl.ac.uk) Received: from rl.ac.uk (ilian.cis.rl.ac.uk [130.246.74.216]) by nameserv.rl.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10720 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <38E4B368.1A4704B2@rl.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:17:12 +0100 From: Christian Krapichler Organization: CLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Linux on SGI 540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I tried to install Linux on our SGI 540, using the 28jul... kernel patch from a SGI web page. It went well and boots until the point where I should see the login screen - but all I get is a "noise" pattern. I am quite new to Linux, but it sounds like the XF86Config is not right. Does anyone have a XF86Config for a 21'' Monitor (GDM-5021-PT)? Any help and suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance, Christian From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 06:53:43 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:53:21 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:2170 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:53:00 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA00295; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:48:18 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA61407 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:44:50 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA61815 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:44:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA03252 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:44:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 96F1F7F4; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:44:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 058878FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:35:07 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: obsolete/duplicate SCSI Config.in options Message-ID: <20000331163507.E4726@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, small patch - Does show up more than once Index: drivers/scsi/Config.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/linux/drivers/scsi/Config.in,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 Config.in --- drivers/scsi/Config.in 2000/03/19 01:28:47 1.25 +++ drivers/scsi/Config.in 2000/03/31 14:36:14 @@ -40,16 +40,6 @@ dep_tristate 'DEC SII Scsi Driver' CONFIG_SCSI_DECSII $CONFIG_SCSI fi -if [ "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "y" ]; then - dep_tristate 'SGI WD93C93 SCSI Driver' CONFIG_SCSI_SGIWD93 $CONFIG_SCSI -fi -if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" ]; then - if [ "$CONFIG_TC" = "y" ]; then - dep_tristate 'DEC NCR53C94 Scsi Driver' CONFIG_SCSI_DECNCR $CONFIG_SCSI - fi - dep_tristate 'DEC SII Scsi Driver' CONFIG_SCSI_DECSII $CONFIG_SCSI -fi - if [ "$CONFIG_PCI" = "y" ]; then dep_tristate '3ware Hardware ATA-RAID support' CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID $CONFIG_SCSI fi -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 07:16:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:16:15 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:60222 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:15:49 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA07810; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:19:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA68025 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:09:06 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA61487 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:09:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA09637 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:08:52 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.26]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13011; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:08:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:46:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:46:01 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: resources.h patch / RLIM_INFINITY __KERNEL__ depend ? Message-ID: <20000331134601.A5728@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000330142705.B3530@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000330184715.A1600@uni-koblenz.de> <20000331102952.B273@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000331102952.B273@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 10:29:52AM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 10:29:52AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > again - short patch - RLIM_INFINITY - This is also defined in > > > both glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1 headers so it should be __KERNEL__ > > > dependend - Shouldnt it ? > > > > Glibc 2.1 doesn't include , and 2.0 shouldn't do as well > > as per convention. So the fix is to copy the necessary definitions from > > kernel headers into glibc headers. > > > > Thanks for reporting this. I'm just cooking a new glibc release ... > > My glibc does include asm/resource.h - This is default hardhat (little endian) > > resourcebits.h:#include > > This is what caused a lot of userspace builts to fail. I know. It's something that used to work with kernel 2.2 but breaks with 2.3. There are a few more problems of this kind with glibc 2.0 and I'm cooking up a patch that will make glibc usable and compilable with 2.3 as well. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 07:29:21 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:29:13 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61189 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:28:53 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA04204; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:24:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA57117 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:21:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA71175 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:21:51 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA04861 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:21:41 -0800 (PST) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-26.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.26]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13873; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:21:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:20:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:20:59 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: obsolete/duplicate SCSI Config.in options Message-ID: <20000331172059.A6272@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000331163507.E4726@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000331163507.E4726@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 04:35:07PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi, > small patch - Does show up more than once Applied. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 08:18:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:17:55 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:23570 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:17:38 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA09895; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA79910; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA83565 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:08:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA84817 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:08:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adisaacs@mr-happy.com) Received: from brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (brainguy.tc.mtu.edu [141.219.5.85]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA01471 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (adisaacs@mr-happy.com) Received: from crow.mr-happy.com (crow.mr-happy.com [172.19.3.81]) by brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01478F3C5 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by crow.mr-happy.com (Postfix, from userid 22448) id D8D9FDF30; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:08:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:08:52 -0500 From: Andy Isaacson To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux on SGI 540 Message-ID: <20000331110852.A5489@mr-happy.com> References: <38E4B368.1A4704B2@rl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <38E4B368.1A4704B2@rl.ac.uk>; from C.Krapichler@rl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:17:12PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 48 01 21 E2 D4 E4 68 D1 B8 DF 39 B2 AF A3 16 B9 X-PGP-Key-URL: http://web.mr-happy.com/~adisaacs/pgp.txt Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:17:12PM +0100, Christian Krapichler wrote: > I tried to install Linux on our SGI 540, using the 28jul... kernel patch > from a SGI web page. It went well and boots until the point where I > should see the login screen - but all I get is a "noise" pattern. I am > quite new to Linux, but it sounds like the XF86Config is not right. Does > anyone have a XF86Config for a 21'' Monitor (GDM-5021-PT)? Any help and > suggestions welcome! Sounds like you've specified too much memory. Try adding "mem=256M" to the "loader options" box in the ARC firmware. You might find some help on my VisWS web pages: http://www.lcse.umn.edu/~adi/visws/ -andy -- Andy Isaacson http://web.mr-happy.com/~adisaacs/ Fight Spam, join CAUCE: adi@acm.org adisaacs@mr-happy.com isaacson@cs.umn.edu www.cauce.org From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 09:04:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:04:26 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:62498 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:03:50 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA16272; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:59:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA32485 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:42:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA86822 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:42:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (C.Krapichler@rl.ac.uk) Received: from nameserv.rl.ac.uk (nameserv.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.129]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA02460 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:41:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (C.Krapichler@rl.ac.uk) Received: from rl.ac.uk (ilian.cis.rl.ac.uk [130.246.74.216]) by nameserv.rl.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13038; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <38E4D553.23B2BF81@rl.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:41:55 +0100 From: Christian Krapichler Organization: CLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Isaacson CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Linux on SGI 540 References: <38E4B368.1A4704B2@rl.ac.uk> <20000331110852.A5489@mr-happy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Andy Isaacson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:17:12PM +0100, Christian Krapichler wrote: > > I tried to install Linux on our SGI 540, using the 28jul... kernel patch > > from a SGI web page. It went well and boots until the point where I > > should see the login screen - but all I get is a "noise" pattern. I am > > quite new to Linux, but it sounds like the XF86Config is not right. Does > > anyone have a XF86Config for a 21'' Monitor (GDM-5021-PT)? Any help and > > suggestions welcome! > > Sounds like you've specified too much memory. Try adding "mem=256M" > to the "loader options" box in the ARC firmware. > yep, that works (had it set to 512M). Thanks a lot! Christian From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 10:15:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:14:51 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:25426 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:14:45 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA01149; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA13048 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA03847 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:57:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA09344 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:57:09 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 7E3F27D9; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:57:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 709BD8FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:45:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:45:26 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: kernel for indigo2 Message-ID: <20000331194525.A20241@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, i recently (a couple of days ago) got an Indigo2 Impact and i thought of beginning to bootstrap debian-mips (I already have >900 Package for debian-mipsel) but i cant even boot a kernel. The standard (and old) kernel on oss.sgi.com simple halt the machine after tftp boot - When building a kernel from the current CVS the machine crashes with a UTLB Miss as mentioned in the MIPS-FAQ as the -N binutils bugs although there is no -N in the makefile. Does anyone have a working kernel for the Indigo2 ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 10:16:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:16:22 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:47954 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:16:12 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA03499; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:19:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA86660 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:02:44 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA13009 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:02:42 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00182 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:02:40 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id C0E1C7D9; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:02:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3FD68FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:53:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:53:03 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, aj@suse.de Subject: Re: pause() Message-ID: <20000331195303.B20241@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000331151555.A5911@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000331151555.A5911@uni-koblenz.de>; from Ralf Baechle on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:15:55PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:15:55PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > I just found another brainfart in the libc / kernel interface. In the > believe libc wouldn't use the pause(2) syscall any longer I removed it. > This makes a number of programs like screen burn all CPU they can get. > I'll provide two fixes, one to libc and a second for the kernel and > either one will be sufficient. Could this also be the cause of "top" refreshing the screen as fast as it can ? I noticed that when i rebuild the debian procps package and tried top ... It then consumes the cpu it gets ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 10:33:11 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:33:02 -0800 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:6485 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:32:53 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA08337; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:36:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA20095 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:20:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA25409 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id KAA00529 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:20:08 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: (qmail 29780 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 18:19:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO penguin.nl) (195.96.116.126) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2000 18:19:58 -0000 Message-ID: <38E4ECA1.2362D2B@penguin.nl> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:21:21 +0200 From: Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Lohoff CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 References: <20000331194525.A20241@paradigm.rfc822.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi, > i recently (a couple of days ago) got an Indigo2 Impact and i thought > of beginning to bootstrap debian-mips (I already have >900 Package for > debian-mipsel) but i cant even boot a kernel. The standard (and old) > kernel on oss.sgi.com simple halt the machine after tftp boot - When > building a kernel from the current CVS the machine > crashes with a UTLB Miss as mentioned in the MIPS-FAQ as the > -N binutils bugs although there is no -N in the makefile. > > Does anyone have a working kernel for the Indigo2 ? I had this very same problem with the CVS tree on my indy r5k. If anyone knows what the problem is, or when it will be fixed, i'd love to now, because development is on a halt here right now. Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 11:05:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:04:45 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:19275 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:04:37 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA03246; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:59:55 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA24861 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:38:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA12710 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:38:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA07276 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:38:46 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5C2D87D9; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 249AA8FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:29:00 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Richard Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 Message-ID: <20000331202859.A20863@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000331194525.A20241@paradigm.rfc822.org> <38E4ECA1.2362D2B@penguin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <38E4ECA1.2362D2B@penguin.nl>; from Richard on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:21:21PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:21:21PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Hi, > > i recently (a couple of days ago) got an Indigo2 Impact and i thought > > of beginning to bootstrap debian-mips (I already have >900 Package for > > debian-mipsel) but i cant even boot a kernel. The standard (and old) > > kernel on oss.sgi.com simple halt the machine after tftp boot - When > > building a kernel from the current CVS the machine > > crashes with a UTLB Miss as mentioned in the MIPS-FAQ as the > > -N binutils bugs although there is no -N in the makefile. > > > > Does anyone have a working kernel for the Indigo2 ? > > I had this very same problem with the CVS tree on my indy r5k. If anyone knows > what the problem is, or when it will be fixed, i'd love to now, because > development is on a halt here right now. As you have a R5000 machine it cant be that CPU dependent as i have a R4400 250Mhz machine. The development is a little on hold here too as the Current Kernel CVS doesnt run on ANY of my platforms - On Decstation it boots but i cant login :( and on Indigo2 it simply crashes :( On decstation i am currently running 2.3.21 which crashes for me twice a day or something while compiling. System: IP22 Processor: 250Mhz R4400, with FPU ICache: 16k DCache: 16k 2ndLevel: 2Mbyte Memory: 128Mb GFX: Solid Impact Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 11:29:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:29:46 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46931 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:29:20 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA07077; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:24:38 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA57108 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA33948 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:21:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA05326 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:20:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 704727D9; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 258BE8FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:11:16 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Richard Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 Message-ID: <20000331211115.B20863@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000331194525.A20241@paradigm.rfc822.org> <38E4ECA1.2362D2B@penguin.nl> <20000331202859.A20863@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000331202859.A20863@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from Florian Lohoff on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:29:00PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:29:00PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > The development is a little on hold here too as the Current Kernel CVS > doesnt run on ANY of my platforms - On Decstation it boots but i cant > login :( and on Indigo2 it simply crashes :( On decstation i am currently > running 2.3.21 which crashes for me twice a day or something while compiling. Another one - If i disable the LX Video Driver for the Indy the kernel does not crash but "hang" - Means - No ouput - Now i tried to set the console and now i get nothing on the Video output and it seems my serial cables dont work - How do i reset the prom ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 12:15:56 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:15:48 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46945 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:15:35 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA13723; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:10:53 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA31141; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA94745 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA56058 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:29 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: from calvin.tor.onramp.ca (calvin.tor.onramp.ca [204.225.88.15]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id MAA07242 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: (qmail 30810 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2000 20:05:08 -0000 Received: from imail.hgeng.com (HELO bart.hgeng.com) (199.246.72.233) by mail.onramp.ca with SMTP; 31 Mar 2000 20:05:08 -0000 Received: by BART with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mike Hill To: "'Florian Lohoff'" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: kernel for indigo2 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:21:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi Florian, Is the 2.2 CVS branch still accessible? I had a measure of success with 2.2.13 and 2.3.21 cross-compiled circa December. I'd have to test them again to tell you which, but with at least one of them, I can boot into a working system. The tricky bit is by the time it's finished booting, the serial console output is lost; at this point I'd like to be able to telnet in, but my setup.rpm (from hardhat) lacks the necessary securettys. I can send you something if you need it. HTH, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Florian Lohoff [SMTP:flo@rfc822.org] > Sent: March 31, 2000 12:45 PM > To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: kernel for indigo2 > > Hi, > i recently (a couple of days ago) got an Indigo2 Impact and i thought > of beginning to bootstrap debian-mips (I already have >900 Package for > debian-mipsel) but i cant even boot a kernel. The standard (and old) > kernel on oss.sgi.com simple halt the machine after tftp boot - When > building a kernel from the current CVS the machine > crashes with a UTLB Miss as mentioned in the MIPS-FAQ as the > -N binutils bugs although there is no -N in the makefile. > > Does anyone have a working kernel for the Indigo2 ? > > Flo > -- > Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org > +49-5241-470566 > "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger > and > more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 13:02:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:01:59 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:9326 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:01:31 -0800 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA20139; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:56:49 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA49833; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA96243 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:48:24 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA87384 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:48:22 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAB05960 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:48:16 -0800 (PST) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6E6A37F5; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:48:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C07F8FC3; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:38:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:38:16 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Mike Hill Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 Message-ID: <20000331223816.A25241@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Hill on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:21:56PM -0500 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:21:56PM -0500, Mike Hill wrote: > Hi Florian, > > Is the 2.2 CVS branch still accessible? I had a measure of success with > 2.2.13 and 2.3.21 cross-compiled circa December. I'd have to test them > again to tell you which, but with at least one of them, I can boot into a > working system. The tricky bit is by the time it's finished booting, the > serial console output is lost; at this point I'd like to be able to telnet > in, but my setup.rpm (from hardhat) lacks the necessary securettys. > > I can send you something if you need it. If you have a binary kernel image with nfsroot that would be great - I could begin installing this machine - You could dump it into ftp://ftp.rfc822.org/incoming - Or otherwise a 2.3.21 source tree - I am not having much luck getting that relase/tag but this might be due to my little experience with cvs ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-5241-470566 "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 13:37:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:36:51 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:16247 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:36:37 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA25254; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:31:56 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA52461 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:27:15 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18581 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:27:12 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de [193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA01948 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:27:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B105512EC; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:27:56 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: SNI RW320 (aka SGI Indigo?) Message-ID: <20000331232756.B10595@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm doing my very first steps with MIPS hardware... Well, I got $Subject with IRIX5.2 installed (-> just right now, I have root access (there was an Objectserver installed;) as well as root access). It ships 48MB RAM, 520MB+1.2GB HDD and a LG1 graphics adaptor which has too high resolutions for my monitor;) As I got no documentation, how can I boot that machine via tftp? MfG, JBG --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE45RhcHb1edYOZ4bsRAc8KAJ90rhV1SsUHAwN6zqTaZ7NmfttE6ACeIKMo mEWQSrqS/fa28yDnN8U0tEc= =FqyF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 14:40:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:39:50 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:43275 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:39:18 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA03125; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:34:33 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA42352 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:23:47 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA42464 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:23:45 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id OAA02264 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:23:43 -0800 (PST) mail_from (richardh@penguin.nl) Received: (qmail 4735 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 22:23:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO penguin.nl) (195.96.113.57) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2000 22:23:33 -0000 Message-ID: <38E525B4.3C45840B@penguin.nl> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:24:52 +0200 From: Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Lohoff CC: Mike Hill , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 References: <20000331223816.A25241@paradigm.rfc822.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:21:56PM -0500, Mike Hill wrote: > > Hi Florian, > > > > Is the 2.2 CVS branch still accessible? I had a measure of success with > > 2.2.13 and 2.3.21 cross-compiled circa December. I'd have to test them > > again to tell you which, but with at least one of them, I can boot into a > > working system. The tricky bit is by the time it's finished booting, the > > serial console output is lost; at this point I'd like to be able to telnet > > in, but my setup.rpm (from hardhat) lacks the necessary securettys. > > > > I can send you something if you need it. > I changed the setup*-noarch.rpm once for installing on a challenge S, it should be on the sgi.com archive somewhere. Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri Mar 31 17:48:21 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:48:11 -0800 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:43573 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:47:54 -0800 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA22611; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:43:13 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA24583 for linux-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:38:02 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA26017 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:38:00 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: from mdhill.interlog.com (ip106.new-market.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.11.85.106]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id RAA03568 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:37:58 -0800 (PST) mail_from (mike@mdhill.interlog.com) Received: (from mike@localhost) by mdhill.interlog.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA13908; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:34:11 -0500 From: "Michael Hill" Message-Id: <10003312034.ZM13906@mdhill.interlog.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:34:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: Richard "Re: kernel for indigo2" (Apr 1, 12:24am) References: <20000331223816.A25241@paradigm.rfc822.org> <38E525B4.3C45840B@penguin.nl> Reply-to: mdhill@interlog.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Richard Subject: Re: kernel for indigo2 Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Apr 1, 12:24am, Richard wrote: > I changed the setup*-noarch.rpm once for installing on a challenge S, it > should be on the sgi.com archive somewhere. Hi Richard, Thanks. I can't wait to try this (tomorrow?). Mike