From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 1 01:03:23 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:03:14 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:6709 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:02:53 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA02068; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:07:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA75372 for linux-list; Mon, 1 May 2000 00:48:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA63781 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 00:48:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA00217 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 00:48:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-9.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-9.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.9]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07727; Mon, 1 May 2000 09:48:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 09:47:50 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:47:50 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: VC exceptions Message-ID: <20000501094750.B21036@uni-koblenz.de> References: <002801bfb2e9$d0bec2f0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <002801bfb2e9$d0bec2f0$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com>; from kevink@mips.com on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:19:41PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:19:41PM +0200, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > >Apropriate placement of mappings in the address space isn't always possible. > >MAP_FIXED is one example. Aliases in the page cache are harder to handle. > >If one of the page cache mappings is writable then readers may even observe > >stale data or in worst case stale data being written to disk. > > mmap() is allowed to fail. I would think that, if someone tries to force an > unsafe mapping, one should give them EINVAL if one doesn't want to deal > with the special case otherwise, or create a copy-on-write clone in a safe > physical page if one wants to be extra-specially nice... I'm only worried because I don't know how much software such a change would break. IRIX uses something they call page ownership switching. Essentially they ensure that only mappings of one colour are accessible at any time. Accessing a page's mapping of a different colour will make the mm flush caches, make the old colour inaccessible and the new colour accessible in the page tables. That requires a reverse mapping of physical to virtual addresses, something that Linus so far has always refused to accept. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 1 01:53:54 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:53:34 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:35892 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:53:05 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA21573; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:48:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA56591; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA90838 for linux-list; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:41:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA95175 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:41:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA08789 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:41:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA08728; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA27099; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001a01bfb349$59f95440$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Ralf Baechle" Cc: "Florian Lohoff" , Subject: Re: VC exceptions Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:43:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> >Apropriate placement of mappings in the address space isn't always possible. >> >MAP_FIXED is one example. Aliases in the page cache are harder to handle. >> >If one of the page cache mappings is writable then readers may even observe >> >stale data or in worst case stale data being written to disk. >> >> mmap() is allowed to fail. I would think that, if someone tries to force an >> unsafe mapping, one should give them EINVAL if one doesn't want to deal >> with the special case otherwise, or create a copy-on-write clone in a safe >> physical page if one wants to be extra-specially nice... > >I'm only worried because I don't know how much software such a change >would break. But it's already broken - it just doesn't know it. The difference is that now the software will fail in a systematic and recoverable way, whereas before it would simply be randomly corrupt. I agree that it's regrettable, but the job of the OS (IMHO) is to provide a known-reliable access to the underlying hardware, and to refuse accesses that compromise the integrity of the system and the application. >IRIX uses something they call page ownership switching. Essentially they >ensure that only mappings of one colour are accessible at any time. >Accessing a page's mapping of a different colour will make the mm flush >caches, make the old colour inaccessible and the new colour accessible >in the page tables. That requires a reverse mapping of physical to virtual >addresses, something that Linus so far has always refused to accept. Just what has he refused to accept, and what was his rationale? Kevin K. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 1 14:32:20 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:32:00 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:12666 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:31:43 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA02978; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA13277; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA57220 for linux-list; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:21:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [163.154.34.46]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12205; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from fisher@localhost) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA31066; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Message-Id: <200005012119.OAA31066@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: VC exceptions To: ralf@oss.sgi.com (Ralf Baechle) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nick@ns.snowman.net, ralf@oss.sgi.com (Ralf Baechle), flo@rfc822.org (Florian Lohoff), linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) In-Reply-To: <20000430004557.A1972@uni-koblenz.de> from "Ralf Baechle" at Apr 30, 2000 12:45:58 AM Reply-To: fisher@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 06:33:54PM -0400, nick@ns.snowman.net wrote: > > > What is a r7000? I've heard of the r8000, is that the same? > > Stupid answer: No, otherwise they'd have the same name :-) > > The R8000 was some kind of CPU hack which SGI came up with when the R4400 > performance was begining to look bad in comparison to the Alphas and the > R10000 project still would have taken quite some time. It was featuring > roughly the integer performance and twice or trice the fp performance of > a 250MHz R4400 while running at just 75 - 90 MHz. It was used only by > SGI. > > The R7000 is kind of a successor to the R5000 featuring roughly R10000 > performance but at a much lower price. This was developed by either > IDT or QED mostly for embedded purposes. > The R5000, was designed and built by QED whom SGI funded to build the processor for the O2 product line. SGI still owns the rights via MTI and is allowed to license them to the various MIPS Licensees. The QED folks ARE the original RXXXX Series designers who originally worked for MIPS Computer System until SGI bought the company in 1992. The various processor designs which they developed included the R2000/2010, R3000/3010, R4000, R4400, R5000 and R7000 processors. Nearly all of the original MIPS Computer systems processor designers are now working at QED. MIPS Technoloy Inc, MTI, is mostly SGI processor designers and lots of new engineers who own the SGI rights to the various MIPS processor designs. The R8000 was shipped in a VME based machine which was placed in the Challenge line which included R4400, R8000 and R10000 processors. As was noted it was an SGI design in total and had a very short life-time. -- Bill From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 2 04:29:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:29:00 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:14098 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:28:40 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA03043; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:23:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA15799 for linux-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA97822 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA03195 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id EAA06302; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id EAA22937; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b401bfb428$34aae610$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: Cc: , "Linux/MIPS fnet" , Subject: Re: VC exceptions Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:18:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >> The R8000 was some kind of CPU hack which SGI came up with when the >> R4400 performance was begining to look bad in comparison to the Alphas >> and the R10000 project still would have taken quite some time. It was featuring >> roughly the integer performance and twice or trice the fp performance of >> a 250MHz R4400 while running at just 75 - 90 MHz. It was used only by >> SGI. Please forgive me if I put on my MIPS historian hat for a moment... The R8000 a.k.a. "TFP" started as a project at SGI before SGI bought MIPS Computer, and before the R4400 was ever shipped, if I recall correctly. It was an radical microarchitectural departure from any other MIPS chips before or since, with a two-way superscalar FPU, dual load paths from the cache, streaming cache design, and a much larger TLB than any MIPS part before or since. For reasons that remain obscure (at least to me) it was implemented in BiCMOS, and consumed two chips. The interchip interconnect was one of the reasons why the clock speed was so limited relative to other designs from the same period. On vectorisable floating-point codes that could take advantage of the dual FP issue and the streaming caches, it was a good performer, really amazing in terms of FLOPS/MHz. But it performed relatively badly on integer or control-intensive codes, and for whatever reason - exotic technology, packaging, or design - the R8000 "Power Challenge" CPU boards had a reputation for poor reliability. The most important legacy of the R8000 is that it was the first MIPS IV ISA processor and the first superscalar MIPS chip. That's why one often uses the gcc -mcpu=r8000 to generate code for R5xxx-class CPUs. >> The R7000 is kind of a successor to the R5000 featuring roughly R10000 >> performance but at a much lower price. This was developed by either >> IDT or QED mostly for embedded purposes. It was developed for QED for high-end embedded and consumer apps. It's microarchitecture has virtually nothing in common with the R8000. As others have noted, whether the performance of the RM7000 (which is QED's actual designation for the part) is on a par with an R10000 will depend a great deal on the code, the frequency, and the memory subsystem. But the R10000 was engineered for performance-at-any-price, wheras the RM7000 was engineered for price/performance. > The R5000, was designed and built by QED whom SGI funded to build the processor > for the O2 product line. SGI still owns the rights via MTI and is allowed to > license them to the various MIPS Licensees. I think it would be more correct to say that among the various bits of IP that MIPS Technologies took with them when they were spun back out of SGI was the R5000 design. > The QED folks ARE the original RXXXX Series designers who originally worked > for MIPS Computer System until SGI bought the company in 1992. The various > processor designs which they developed included the R2000/2010, R3000/3010, > R4000, R4400, R5000 and R7000 processors. Nearly all of the original MIPS > Computer systems processor designers are now working at QED. I think "nearly all" is a bit of an overstatement. There are veterans of the early days of MIPS in a lot of companies in the valley. I'm not going to name names here, but QED is merely the largest of several MIPS spin-offs. > MIPS Technoloy Inc, MTI, is mostly SGI processor designers and lots > of new engineers who own the SGI rights to the various MIPS processor > designs. I prefer to think of Mips Technologies as owning the *MIPS* rights to the various MIPS processor designs. And the patents behind them. And the ISA. ;-) > The R8000 was shipped in a VME based machine which was placed in the > Challenge line which included R4400, R8000 and R10000 processors. As was noted > it was an SGI design in total and had a very short life-time. Quibble here: The Challenge/PowerChallenge bus had little or nothing to do with VME. I recall that it was a synchronous, "pended operation" bus, and VME is neither. Regards, Kevin K. Disclaimer: I guess I need to say that the above opinions, analysis, and reminiscences are my own and not necessarily those of MIPS Technologies Inc. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 2 05:53:09 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:53:00 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:23595 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:52:57 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA07348; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:57:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA52071 for linux-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:43:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA83776 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:43:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA04581 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:43:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 707B57D9; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:43:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CB398FFD; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:25:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:25:44 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: autoboot via bootp ? Message-ID: <20000502142544.C2508@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, does somebody have an idea on how to set the prom env vars to values which do the same as this - bootp booting and some kernel parms --------------- System Maintenance Menu 1) Start System 2) Install System Software 3) Run Diagnostics 4) Recover System 5) Enter Command Monitor Option? 5 Command Monitor. Type "exit" to return to the menu. >> bootp():vmlinux-ip22 root=/dev/sda1 console=ttyS0 Setting $netaddr to 195.71.99.220 (from server watchdog.rfc822.org) Obtaining vmlinux-ip22 from server watchdog.rfc822.org ARCH: SGI-IP22 -------------------------- Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 2 06:30:11 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:29:52 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61217 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:29:39 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA10581; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:24:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA80462; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA58827 for linux-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA11078 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:18:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA07448 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-22.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-22.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.22]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07112; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:18:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:17:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:17:58 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Kevin D. Kissell" Cc: Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: VC exceptions Message-ID: <20000502151758.E822@uni-koblenz.de> References: <001a01bfb349$59f95440$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <001a01bfb349$59f95440$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com>; from kevink@mips.com on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:43:34AM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:43:34AM +0200, Kevin D. Kissell wrote: > >I'm only worried because I don't know how much software such a change > >would break. > > But it's already broken - it just doesn't know it. The difference is that > now the software will fail in a systematic and recoverable way, whereas > before it would simply be randomly corrupt. I agree that it's regrettable, > but the job of the OS (IMHO) is to provide a known-reliable access > to the underlying hardware, and to refuse accesses that compromise > the integrity of the system and the application. I think we're about to mix two issues. The one is about fixing a bug, the other is a design issue is ``Do we want to support coherency between mmap and read/write of the mapped fd''. [Linus cite] Oh, but that's the easy case. You just say that you don't guarantee cache coherency between writes and mmap's. Problem solved. It's actually the right solution. Few other systems guarantee cache coherency under those circumstances either, so basically no existing applications depend on it anyway. Certainly not in an embedded space. [...] > >IRIX uses something they call page ownership switching. Essentially they > >ensure that only mappings of one colour are accessible at any time. > >Accessing a page's mapping of a different colour will make the mm flush > >caches, make the old colour inaccessible and the new colour accessible > >in the page tables. That requires a reverse mapping of physical to virtual > >addresses, something that Linus so far has always refused to accept. > > Just what has he refused to accept, and what was his rationale? He does not want a facility that allows to find all virtual addresses to which a page is mapped as part of the generic memory managment. That's actually not a big problem, it can be handled in update_mmu_cache, that is in machine specific code. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 2 16:16:01 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:15:52 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:25445 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:15:33 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA06814; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA62109; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA99992 for linux-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:04:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com (kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA26070; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:03:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wombat@kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com) Received: from kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA04626; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005022304.QAA04626@kilimanjaro.engr.sgi.com> To: "Kevin D. Kissell" cc: fisher@sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, "Linux/MIPS fnet" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: VC exceptions In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 13:18:49 +0200." <00b401bfb428$34aae610$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 16:04:01 -0700 From: Joan Eslinger Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing * Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:18:49 +0200 * From: "Kevin D. Kissell" * * Quibble here: The Challenge/PowerChallenge bus had * little or nothing to do with VME. I recall that it was a synchronous, * "pended operation" bus, and VME is neither. The main system bus is proprietary, called SysAD. Challenge and Power Challenge did support VME cards, but I don't remember if the SysAD bus had a VME extension on it or if you had to stick in a VME/SysAD card to get that. Originally "Power Challenge" meant you had an R8000 CPU, but after R10000s were available "Challenge" and "Power Challenge" both meant R10k. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 3 09:54:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:54:07 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:27724 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:53:43 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA28837; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA67002; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA48895 for linux-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:29:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA33556 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (carstenl@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA06994 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (carstenl@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA06105 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from copfs01.mips.com (copfs01 [192.168.205.101]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA07203 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mips.com (copsun17 [192.168.205.27]) by copfs01.mips.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA20003 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:29:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <391053CB.AC28C02D@mips.com> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 18:28:59 +0200 From: Carsten Langgaard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Netscape support. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Has anyone got netscape or another browser up and running on their MIPS machine running linux ? Regards Carsten -- _ _ ____ ___ Carsten Langgaard Mailto:carstenl@mips.com |\ /|||___)(___ MIPS Denmark Direct: +45 4486 5527 | \/ ||| ____) Lautrupvang 4B Switch: +45 4486 5555 TECHNOLOGIES 2750 Ballerup Fax...: +45 4486 5556 Denmark http://www.mips.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 9 18:01:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:00:56 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:3392 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:00:43 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA04781; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA78608; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA86436 for linux-list; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA44222 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from staff.cerf.net (staff.cerf.net [198.137.140.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA06330 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from sdhqdt0132 (dhcp684.hq.sd.cerf.net [192.215.14.84]) by staff.cerf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23935 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:42:32 GMT From: "Eric Watkins" To: Subject: Port status? Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:42:33 -0700 Message-ID: <001701bfb9dd$f47ff240$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I'm new to this list and wondering what the status of the port is? I've been looking at the http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/manhattan/ site and it looks really out of date. Is this because it's now in the kernel or has all support for it just been dropped? Am I just looking in the wrong place? Thanks for your time. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 9 23:15:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:14:47 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:36446 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:14:19 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA01193; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:18:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA25367; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA68835 for linux-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:03:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA60627 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:03:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA04598 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:03:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-7.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-7.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.7]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14758; Thu, 4 May 2000 06:02:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 3 May 2000 20:13:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:13:47 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Carsten Langgaard Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Netscape support. Message-ID: <20000503201347.A780@uni-koblenz.de> References: <391053CB.AC28C02D@mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <391053CB.AC28C02D@mips.com>; from carstenl@mips.com on Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:28:59PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:28:59PM +0200, Carsten Langgaard wrote: > Has anyone got netscape or another browser up and running on their MIPS > machine running linux ? I had Mozilla running under Linux about two years ago and have sent all the necessary patches to the maintainers at that time. It was not terribly stable, though. Resizing the window crashed Mozilla but aside of that it was running just fine. I gave up tracking the problem since my Indy by far didn't have enough memory to deal with GDB + Emacs as GDB frontend + Mozilla. I guess you need 192mb or more to debug that resize crash ... As for text browsers I've built Lynx which was running just out of the box. There is a few more text browsers like w3m or Links, haven't yet tried those under Linux. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 9 23:22:46 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:22:37 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:25903 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:22:17 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA03565; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA67127; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA70481 for linux-list; Sat, 6 May 2000 04:32:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA82159 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 04:32:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA09658 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 04:31:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id C1CF480A; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:31:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E0A8C8FFD; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:10:18 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Klaus Naumann Cc: Debian MIPS , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems with cvs kernel on Indigo2 Message-ID: <20000506131018.C606@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <200005061105.NAA10832@sunnyboy.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <200005061105.NAA10832@sunnyboy.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>; from Klaus Naumann on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 01:06:15PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 01:06:15PM +0200, Klaus Naumann wrote: > 1. The network driver is completely broken. The output of ifconfig > shows the eth0 device about 8 times and network isn't working at all. > ifconfig up & down didn't change anything. I am not seeing this on my indigo2. > 2. There are messages in my kernel log like: > Bug in get_wchan > Due to my still very limited knowledge about the kernel I don't know > what's the problem, I only know that this error is generated in the > get_wchan function in arch/mips/kernel/process.c I already had a go in the source. The problem is that with some "ps" output you want to see the kernel "function" the process got stuck in when it was scheduled. Now - There are a couple of possible functions which might be used to schedule namely all the ones in kernel/sched.c between void scheduling_functions_start_here(void) { } and void scheduling_functions_end_here(void) { } As the calling convention for mips just says the return address (Which is the interesting thing to return in get_wchan() ) is passed in the "ra" register. Somewhere in the functions between the two markers above (e.h. asmlinkage void schedule(void)) the "ra" gets pushed on the stack. Now - get_wchan has to find out WHICH function did the schedule and depending on the function retrieve the return address for the specific process from the stack. On some architectures this is simple or you even can search the stackpage which mips/mipsel cant do. Where the return address is stored on the stack for the specific functions can be seen in the gdb. (gdb) disass schedule Dump of assembler code for function schedule: 0x8802565c : addiu $sp,$sp,-48 0x88025660 : sw $ra,40($sp) 0x88025664 : sw $s8,36($sp) 0x88025668 : sw $s4,32($sp) 0x8802566c : sw $s3,28($sp) 0x88025670 : sw $s2,24($sp) 0x88025674 : sw $s1,20($sp) 0x88025678 : sw $s0,16($sp) 0x8802567c : lw $s0,48($gp) 0x88025680 : bnez $s0,0x880256a4 0x88025684 : move $s8,$sp 0x88025688 : lui $a0,0x8812 0x8802568c : addiu $a0,$a0,18536 0x88025690 : lui $a1,0x8812 0x88025694 : addiu $a1,$a1,18780 As you can see "ra" gets pushed on the stack at sp + 0x40 In "get_wchan" you see the following 204 pc = thread_saved_pc(&p->thread); Get the programm counter - Means - You can find out which function did the schedule. 212 schedule_frame = ((unsigned long *)p->thread.reg30)[9]; Get the stack pointer. 213 return ((unsigned long *)schedule_frame)[16]; And return the 16ths long of the stack -> 16 * 4 -> 64 ... Now we found the "real" programm counter where the thread scheduled. Now we try if this is inbetween the scheduling functions which could mean we havent found the return address on the stack. 215 if (pc >= first_sched && pc < last_sched) { 216 printk(KERN_DEBUG "Bug in %s\n", __FUNCTION__); 217 } And there is your "Bug in get_wchan()" > Is there anyone out there who has solutions for the named problems ? The "Bug in get_wchan()" is quiet obvious to fix - The day i get my Indy ill be able to do a bit more kernel things. The "Ethernet" is a bit mysterious to me. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 9 23:34:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:34:02 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:52274 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 23:33:44 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA05520; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:28:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA06839 for linux-list; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:24:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA95606 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) From: nick@ns.snowman.net Received: from ns.snowman.net (ns.snowman.net [63.80.4.34]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA02036 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:24:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by ns.snowman.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA15067; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:26:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:26:00 -0400 (EDT) To: Florian Lohoff cc: Klaus Naumann , Debian MIPS , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems with cvs kernel on Indigo2 In-Reply-To: <20000506131018.C606@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing If you are looking for an Indy there are some floating around cheap (~250$ after shipping) in the us. Nick On Sat, 6 May 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 01:06:15PM +0200, Klaus Naumann wrote: > > > 1. The network driver is completely broken. The output of ifconfig > > shows the eth0 device about 8 times and network isn't working at all. > > ifconfig up & down didn't change anything. > > I am not seeing this on my indigo2. > > > 2. There are messages in my kernel log like: > > Bug in get_wchan > > Due to my still very limited knowledge about the kernel I don't know > > what's the problem, I only know that this error is generated in the > > get_wchan function in arch/mips/kernel/process.c > > I already had a go in the source. > > The problem is that with some "ps" output you want to see the kernel > "function" the process got stuck in when it was scheduled. Now - There > are a couple of possible functions which might be used to schedule > namely all the ones in kernel/sched.c between > > void scheduling_functions_start_here(void) { } > > and > > void scheduling_functions_end_here(void) { } > > As the calling convention for mips just says the return address (Which > is the interesting thing to return in get_wchan() ) is passed in > the "ra" register. Somewhere in the functions between the two markers > above (e.h. asmlinkage void schedule(void)) the "ra" gets pushed on > the stack. Now - get_wchan has to find out WHICH function did > the schedule and depending on the function retrieve the return > address for the specific process from the stack. On some architectures > this is simple or you even can search the stackpage which mips/mipsel > cant do. Where the return address is stored on the stack > for the specific functions can be seen in the gdb. > > (gdb) disass schedule > Dump of assembler code for function schedule: > 0x8802565c : addiu $sp,$sp,-48 > 0x88025660 : sw $ra,40($sp) > 0x88025664 : sw $s8,36($sp) > 0x88025668 : sw $s4,32($sp) > 0x8802566c : sw $s3,28($sp) > 0x88025670 : sw $s2,24($sp) > 0x88025674 : sw $s1,20($sp) > 0x88025678 : sw $s0,16($sp) > 0x8802567c : lw $s0,48($gp) > 0x88025680 : bnez $s0,0x880256a4 > 0x88025684 : move $s8,$sp > 0x88025688 : lui $a0,0x8812 > 0x8802568c : addiu $a0,$a0,18536 > 0x88025690 : lui $a1,0x8812 > 0x88025694 : addiu $a1,$a1,18780 > > As you can see "ra" gets pushed on the stack at sp + 0x40 > > In "get_wchan" you see the following > > 204 pc = thread_saved_pc(&p->thread); > > Get the programm counter - Means - You can find out which > function did the schedule. > > 212 schedule_frame = ((unsigned long *)p->thread.reg30)[9]; > > Get the stack pointer. > > 213 return ((unsigned long *)schedule_frame)[16]; > > And return the 16ths long of the stack -> 16 * 4 -> 64 ... > > Now we found the "real" programm counter where the thread scheduled. > > Now we try if this is inbetween the scheduling functions which could > mean we havent found the return address on the stack. > > 215 if (pc >= first_sched && pc < last_sched) { > 216 printk(KERN_DEBUG "Bug in %s\n", __FUNCTION__); > 217 } > > And there is your "Bug in get_wchan()" > > > Is there anyone out there who has solutions for the named problems ? > > The "Bug in get_wchan()" is quiet obvious to fix - The day i > get my Indy ill be able to do a bit more kernel things. > > The "Ethernet" is a bit mysterious to me. > > Flo > -- > Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change > "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and > more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 10 12:42:24 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:42:15 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:57907 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:41:54 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA05093; Wed, 10 May 2000 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA99222 for linux-list; Wed, 10 May 2000 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA91638 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (sgi.com!Cologne.DE!excalibur.cologne.de!karsten) Received: from fileserv2.Cologne.DE (fileserv2.cologne.de [193.29.188.3]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id MAA00237 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Cologne.DE!excalibur.cologne.de!karsten) Received: from localhost (1675 bytes) by fileserv2.Cologne.DE via rmail with P:stdio/R:bind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 21:14:24 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #5 built 1998-Jan-19) Received: (from karsten@localhost) by excalibur.cologne.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) id GAA01589; Wed, 10 May 2000 06:42:43 +0200 Message-ID: <20000510064243.A1015@excalibur.cologne.de> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:42:43 +0200 From: Karsten Merker To: Carsten Langgaard Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: Netscape support. Mail-Followup-To: Carsten Langgaard , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr References: <391053CB.AC28C02D@mips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <391053CB.AC28C02D@mips.com>; from Carsten Langgaard on Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:28:59PM +0200 X-No-Archive: yes Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:28:59PM +0200, Carsten Langgaard wrote: > Has anyone got netscape or another browser up and running on their MIPS > machine running linux ? I have Lynx, amaya and kfm running on a DECstation (R3000 little endian). Take a look at ftp://bolug.uni-bonn.de/mips/ for RPM-Packages. BTW, I have uploaded several new packages there, including a complete KDE 1.1.2 for mipsel. Well, it's a bit slow on a 25MHz-R3K machine, but it works and kfm is not that bad as a graphical web browser, if you have enough memory. HTH, Karsten -- #include Nach Paragraph 28 Abs. 3 Bundesdatenschutzgesetz widerspreche ich der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 11 04:27:54 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:27:45 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:851 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:27:33 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA19078; Thu, 11 May 2000 04:22:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA55389; Thu, 11 May 2000 04:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA03849 for linux-list; Thu, 11 May 2000 04:16:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA85204 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 04:16:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA06172 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 04:16:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com) Received: from dandelion.sonytel.be (dandelion.sonytel.be [193.74.243.153]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07109 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:44 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: weird tests in arch/mips/config.in Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I found why I no longer get IDE and serial support on my DDB Vrc-5074 board with the current Linux/MIPS CVS tree: someone played with the conditions in arch/mips/config.in. What's the purpose of e.g. if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" != "n" -a "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" != "n" ]; then ? This is only true if you compile a kernel that supports both DECstations and IP22s, which is not what you want. I'd expect tests like if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" -o "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "y" ]; then or if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "n" -a "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "n" ]; then FWIW, the path below is what I needed for my DDB5074. But I think the DECstation and IP22 guys have to sort out the above conditions first. Index: arch/mips/config.in =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/linux/arch/mips/config.in,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -r1.50 config.in --- arch/mips/config.in 2000/04/19 04:00:05 1.50 +++ arch/mips/config.in 2000/05/11 10:04:50 @@ -168,13 +168,11 @@ source net/Config.in fi -if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" != "n" -a \ - "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" != "n" ]; then - source drivers/telephony/Config.in -fi +if [ "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_DDB5074" = "y" ]; then -if [ "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" != "n" -a \ - "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" != "n" ]; then + source drivers/telephony/Config.in mainmenu_option next_comment comment 'ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support' @@ -200,8 +198,9 @@ fi endmenu -if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" != "n" -a \ - "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" != "n" ]; then +if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_DDB5074" = "y" ]; then source drivers/i2o/Config.in fi @@ -268,8 +267,9 @@ endmenu fi -if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" != "n" -a \ - "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" != "n" ]; then +if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_SGI_IP22" = "y" -o \ + "$CONFIG_DDB5074" = "y" ]; then source drivers/char/Config.in fi Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven ------------- Sony Software Development Center Europe (SDCE) Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com ------------------- Sint-Stevens-Woluwestraat 55 Voice +32-2-7248638 Fax +32-2-7262686 ---------------- B-1130 Brussels, Belgium From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 11 16:00:33 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:00:14 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:30262 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 11 May 2000 22:59:50 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA00469; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:55:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA28363 for linux-list; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:50:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA96556 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (william@hpcf.upr.edu) Received: from mail.hpcf.upr.edu (hpcf.upr.edu [136.145.54.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA09105 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:50:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (william@hpcf.upr.edu) Received: from hpcf.upr.edu (wisepoint.hpcf.upr.edu [136.145.54.40]) by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA29052 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 18:34:52 -0400 Message-ID: <391B3AA6.449522E8@hpcf.upr.edu> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:56:38 -0400 From: William Caban Babilonia Organization: High Performance Computing facility of University of Puerto Rico X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.3.42 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Is this alive? 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Colegios Regionales=0D=0ACalle 17 Esq 6=0D=0AVilla Nevares;Rio Piedras;PR;000927;USA note;quoted-printable:HPCf Network Administrator=0D=0AUnix System Administrator x-mozilla-cpt:;16256 fn:William Caban end:vcard --------------0AAFD32EB96040EE7F81CB30-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 12 07:30:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:30:03 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33372 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:29:46 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA09024; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:34:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA82076 for linux-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:19:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA37196 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:19:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: from calvin.tor.onramp.ca (calvin.tor.onramp.ca [204.225.88.15]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id HAA07946 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:19:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mikehill@hgeng.com) Received: (qmail 31124 invoked from network); 12 May 2000 14:19:06 -0000 Received: from imail.hgeng.com (HELO bart.hgeng.com) (199.246.72.233) by mail.onramp.ca with SMTP; 12 May 2000 14:19:06 -0000 Received: by BART with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:18:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mike Hill To: "'William Caban Babilonia'" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: RE: Is this alive? Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:18:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing The list archives are at http://oss.sgi.com/projects/linuxmips/archive/ . The FAQ/HOWTO (http://oss.sgi.com/www.linux.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html) contains information that's pretty current, including how to get the latest version of itself from CVS. HTH, Mike From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 12 08:28:33 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:28:13 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:15204 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:27:45 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA03113; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA63647 for linux-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:15:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA65579 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:15:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA05920 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:14:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 458E77F3; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:14:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8615C8FA7; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:14:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:14:47 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, debian-mips@lists.debian.org Subject: repeat.rfc822.org down (Decstation - mipsel) Message-ID: <20000512171447.H1840@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, to all the people having an account on repeat.rfc822.org the debian Decstation 5000/150. The machine died today with harddisk problems - It seems its an unrecoverable hardware damage of the disks. I am trying to get new disks attached but possibly the installation is lost. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 12 10:08:35 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:08:16 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:28426 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:07:48 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA11438; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA06799 for linux-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:01:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA02569 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:01:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA02989 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12qIo3-0007Wa-00; Fri, 12 May 2000 19:00:55 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 12 May 2000 18:56:58 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:56:57 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, debian-mips@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: repeat.rfc822.org down (Decstation - mipsel) Message-ID: <20000512185657.A24084@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, debian-mips@lists.debian.org References: <20000512171447.H1840@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000512171447.H1840@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:14:47PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:14:47PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > The machine died today with harddisk problems - It seems its an > unrecoverable hardware damage of the disks. This s*cks badly. Good luck with the recovery of the installation. -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 12 14:57:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 21:57:43 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:24685 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 May 2000 21:57:21 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA27828; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA93927 for linux-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA14172 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:51:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA01570 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:51:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 3ACC37F3; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6328C8FA8; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:47:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:47:26 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Kernel crash 2.3.99pre6 on Little Endian Decstation Message-ID: <20000512234725.A805@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, while installing the Decstation new i have problems getting the system to start - Which is very interesting as it would boot with the same kernel ... It crashes here: Starting INET services: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00000008, epc == 800a967c, ra == 800a966c $0 : 00000000 80150010 fffffffe 8117a480 $4 : 00000000 811e0384 811e0384 00000001 $8 : 00000008 80144968 00000003 00000002 $12: fffffffc 3739f15a 7ffffa38 83f0bec0 $16: 811790e0 83cbbec0 83cc1680 83c9c00b $20: 83cbbec0 00000009 00000005 10014218 $24: 00000001 2ab3ff90 $28: 83cba000 83cbbe28 00000020 800a966c epc : 800a967c Status: 30052c03 Cause : 30000008 Process pidof (pid: 52, stackpage=83cba000) Stack: 8008fc08 83c9c00b 83cbbec0 00000009 00000000 00000000 83cc1680 800aa14c 83cc14e0 83c9c00b 83cbbec0 00000009 83f0be60 83f0bde0 800901b4 8009b830 80192820 00003000 83f0bde0 83dad120 83c9c008 00000003 000062e5 00003000 83f0be60 00000000 00000000 83c9c000 00000001 100147f8 1001459c 7ffffc08 80090520 80090510 80070344 80070330 fffffff4 7ffffb08 83f0bde0 00000000 1001459c ... Call Trace: [<8008fc08>] [<800aa14c>] [<800901b4>] [<8009b830>] [<80090520>] [<80090510>] [<80070344>] [<80070330>] [<8008f7d4>] [<800906b4>] [<8007040c>] [<8008c104>] [<8004aec8>] Code: 2402fffe 8fa40010 8e030008 <8c820008> 8c6300a0 8c4500a0 10a30009 00000000 8ca20028 Warning: trailing garbage ignored on Code: line Text: 'Code: 2402fffe 8fa40010 8e030008 <8c820008> 8c6300a0 8c4500a0 10a30009 00000000 8ca20028 ' Garbage: ' ' /usr/bin/objdump: Can't disassemble for architecture UNKNOWN! ksymoops: Oops_decode pclose failed 0x100 >>RA : 800a966c >>PC: 800a967c Trace: 8008fc08 Trace: 800aa14c Trace: 800901b4 Trace: 8009b830 Trace: 80090520 Trace: 80090510 Trace: 80070344 Trace: 80070330 Trace: 8008f7d4 Trace: 800906b4 <__namei+38/b8> Trace: 8007040c Trace: 8008c104 Trace: 8004aec8 I did the disasm myself with objdump as one might not pass the architecture to ksymoops ... 00000000800a9638 : 800a9638: 27bdffe0 addiu $sp,$sp,-32 800a963c: afb00018 sw $s0,24($sp) 800a9640: afbf001c sw $ra,28($sp) 800a9644: 0c02a534 jal 800a94d0 800a9648: 00808021 move $s0,$a0 800a964c: 14400024 bnez $v0,800a96e0 800a9650: 2402fff3 li $v0,-13 800a9654: 02002021 move $a0,$s0 800a9658: 27a50010 addiu $a1,$sp,16 800a965c: 8f820320 lw $v0,800($gp) 800a9660: 8c500008 lw $s0,8($v0) RA->800a9664: 0c02a49f jal 800a927c 800a9668: 27a60014 addiu $a2,$sp,20 800a966c: 1440001c bnez $v0,800a96e0 800a9670: 2402fffe li $v0,-2 800a9674: 8fa40010 lw $a0,16($sp) 800a9678: 8e030008 lw $v1,8($s0) PC->800a967c: 8c820008 lw $v0,8($a0) 800a9680: 8c6300a0 lw $v1,160($v1) 800a9684: 8c4500a0 lw $a1,160($v0) 800a9688: 10a30009 beq $a1,$v1,800a96b0 Somebody got an idea ? Ah - egcs 1.0.3a - binutils 2.8.1 - Kernel 2.3.99pre6 Running NFS Root Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 06:32:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:32:08 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:30271 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:31:50 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA29336; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:26:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA44332; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA94284 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA32245 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:22:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4C7A78D7 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 06:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Indy Documentation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I have some happy news. After writing up a 47-lines bash script that would search every IRIX machine at SGI in parallel I managed to find most of the Indy documentation in electronic form. I tried about 6000 machines before I found anything, and it took me almost 9 hours of hard work. The biggest problem I had was that I ran into the open file limit in Linux so I could only search 250 machines at the same time. Why is it so? This is the contents of the directory: -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 427532 Sep 23 1998 dmux1.showcase dr--r--r-- 2 guest guest 4096 Sep 23 1998 gio64 -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 413144 Sep 23 1998 hpc3.showcase -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 260096 Sep 23 1998 ioc.spec.frame -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 411688 Sep 23 1998 mc.showcase -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 217662 Sep 23 1998 pbus.doc -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 197632 Sep 23 1998 rb2.spec.frame -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 852059 Sep 23 1998 rex3.spec.ps -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 169984 Sep 23 1998 ro1.spec.frame -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 552960 Sep 23 1998 vc2.spec.frame dr--r--r-- 2 guest guest 4096 Sep 23 1998 vino -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 414720 Sep 23 1998 xmap9.spec.frame -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 176437 Sep 23 1998 xmap9.spec.ps I don't know if I will be allowed to distribute this, but it's at least a huge step from the paper documentation that we have now. I'll convert it to postscript so that we can read it.. Cheers, Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 06:53:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:52:48 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:59716 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:52:17 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA00256; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:47:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA45643; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA88122 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:47:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA08676; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA06924; Sat, 13 May 2000 06:47:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12qcFz-0000Xr-00; Sat, 13 May 2000 15:47:03 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 13 May 2000 15:42:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 15:42:33 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000513154233.A15019@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing This looks very promising. Hopefully you'll be allowed to open the X files to non sgi people ;) -- Guido On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I have some happy news. After writing up a 47-lines bash script that would > search every IRIX machine at SGI in parallel I managed to find most of the > Indy documentation in electronic form. I tried about 6000 machines before I > found anything, and it took me almost 9 hours of hard work. The biggest > problem I had was that I ran into the open file limit in Linux so I could only > search 250 machines at the same time. Why is it so? > > This is the contents of the directory: > > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 427532 Sep 23 1998 dmux1.showcase > dr--r--r-- 2 guest guest 4096 Sep 23 1998 gio64 > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 413144 Sep 23 1998 hpc3.showcase > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 260096 Sep 23 1998 ioc.spec.frame > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 411688 Sep 23 1998 mc.showcase > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 217662 Sep 23 1998 pbus.doc > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 197632 Sep 23 1998 rb2.spec.frame > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 852059 Sep 23 1998 rex3.spec.ps > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 169984 Sep 23 1998 ro1.spec.frame > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 552960 Sep 23 1998 vc2.spec.frame > dr--r--r-- 2 guest guest 4096 Sep 23 1998 vino > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 414720 Sep 23 1998 xmap9.spec.frame > -r--r--r-- 1 guest guest 176437 Sep 23 1998 xmap9.spec.ps > > I don't know if I will be allowed to distribute this, but it's at least a huge > step from the paper documentation that we have now. I'll convert it to > postscript so that we can read it.. > > Cheers, > Ulf > -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 07:44:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:43:58 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:10068 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 14:43:47 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA03270; Sat, 13 May 2000 07:38:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA51537; Sat, 13 May 2000 07:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA68765 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA20729 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA00588 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12qcz6-0000bA-00; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:33:40 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 13 May 2000 16:29:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 16:29:08 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xfree86 on an indy Message-ID: <20000513162907.A16713@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000507130325.B27271@bilbo.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000507150606.A27447@bilbo.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000509113131.D258@bilbo.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000509194817.A1090@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000509194817.A1090@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:48:17PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing And using -cc 2 gives a 256 _color_ display - silly me( I still don't know why the PseudoColor visual doesn't work correctly, but I'll look into getting the mouse going first now). That the xfree86 guys don't have public mailing lists and BTS doesn't make life easier ... -- Guido On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:48:17PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:31:31AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > > colormap & mouse are still broken. > The problem seems to be related to the default visual used. You can use > the "-cc StaticGray" command line option to get at least a greyscaled > diplay. > -- Guido > > -- > GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc > -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 09:40:58 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:40:38 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:42870 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:40:19 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA10113; Sat, 13 May 2000 09:35:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA02289 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 09:32:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA37873 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 09:32:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA09372 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 44A4D7DD; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:32:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 585108FA7; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:32:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 18:32:48 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Subject: Indy Documentation > I don't know if I will be allowed to distribute this, but it's at least a huge > step from the paper documentation that we have now. I'll convert it to > postscript so that we can read it.. Just a dump question - before all this documentation is lost - Might there be also Documentation for Indigo, Indigo2 and the other GFX Adapters like {Solid,Maximum,Extreme} Impact etc ? Someday somebody might be interested in doing more work for the Indigo and then there is no documentation avail. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 12:09:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 19:09:30 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:64571 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 19:09:08 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA04981; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:13:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA26125 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA34266 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:04:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gcontrer@uach.mx) Received: from tele.dti.uach.mx (tele.dti.uach.mx [148.229.1.38]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA02286 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:04:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gcontrer@uach.mx) Received: from localhost (gcontrer@localhost) by tele.dti.uach.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13341 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:04:09 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: tele.dti.uach.mx: gcontrer owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:04:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Gerardo Contreras X-Sender: gcontrer@tele.dti.uach.mx To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Linux & Indy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi! I'm very new to this topic. I just want to know what's happening with the Linux on MIPS development, 'cause in the linux.sgi.com page there is nothing new about it. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 13 16:56:32 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:56:23 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:19579 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:56:02 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA05915; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:51:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA39014 for linux-list; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:48:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA30966; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:48:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from the-village.bc.nu (lightning.swansea.uk.linux.org [194.168.151.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA04453; Sat, 13 May 2000 16:47:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) Received: from alan by the-village.bc.nu with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12qlbr-0000xy-00; Sun, 14 May 2000 00:46:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Indy Documentation To: ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com (Ulf Carlsson) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 00:46:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com In-Reply-To: from "Ulf Carlsson" at May 13, 2000 06:21:56 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > found anything, and it took me almost 9 hours of hard work. The biggest > problem I had was that I ran into the open file limit in Linux so I could only > search 250 machines at the same time. Why is it so? Because you are running an older 2.2 release or didnt RTFM ;) From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun May 14 12:03:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:03:39 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:18747 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:03:19 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA07088; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA69614; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA47187 for linux-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:52:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA78642 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA07232 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:52:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5B2BE7D9; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:52:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 61D208FA7; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:08:54 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Guido Guenther Cc: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000514080854.A2307@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000513154233.A15019@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000513154233.A15019@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:42:33PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:42:33PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > > This looks very promising. Hopefully you'll be allowed to open the > X files to non sgi people ;) Otherwiese everybody signes a 1 US$/y contract with SGI :) Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun May 14 12:08:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:08:10 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:30269 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:07:58 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA07484; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:03:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA69842; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA32945 for linux-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:00:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA31505 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (geert@linux-m68k.org) Received: from pop01.chello.be (phoenix.chello.be [195.162.196.23]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA09751 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:00:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (geert@linux-m68k.org) Received: from callisto ([195.162.216.83]) by pop01.chello.be (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license f891beffebad5da1b2ebd034a97f2710) with ESMTP id <20000514190034.XGTX17444.pop01@callisto>; Sun, 14 May 2000 21:00:34 +0200 Received: from localhost (geert@localhost) by callisto.of.borg (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10568; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:58:23 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: callisto.of.borg: geert owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:58:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Florian Lohoff cc: Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation In-Reply-To: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sat, 13 May 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > Subject: Indy Documentation > > > I don't know if I will be allowed to distribute this, but it's at least a huge > > step from the paper documentation that we have now. I'll convert it to > > postscript so that we can read it.. > > Just a dump question - before all this documentation is lost - Might > there be also Documentation for Indigo, Indigo2 and the other > GFX Adapters like {Solid,Maximum,Extreme} Impact etc ? > > Someday somebody might be interested in doing more work > for the Indigo and then there is no documentation avail. YES! Time to put _all_ docs you can find on CDR. I always keep all technical docs I download to store them on CDR from time to time, since those docs tend to vanish after a while (especially if they were on the manufacturer's website). Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun May 14 15:15:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:15:10 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:28529 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:14:48 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA19525; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:09:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA40330 for linux-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:05:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA04679 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:04:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de [193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA07015 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EAA2E51314; Mon, 15 May 2000 00:04:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:04:54 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000515000454.A6575@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:32:48PM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:32:48PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:21:56AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > Subject: Indy Documentation >=20 > Someday somebody might be interested in doing more work > for the Indigo and then there is no documentation avail. Doing "more" work for Indigo? Well, what work has actually be done up to now to support linux on this (okay, quite old...) box? - The R3k is supported by gcc (I think R3000 support is mainly used for the DECStations?) - Glibc2.2 will be available in near future and hopefully fully functional;) But: - No kernel support so far (okay, one try to make it run, but this=20 resulted in an exception right after tftp'ing the kernel image to the machine) Personally I'd like to do work on an Indigo as I got one, but it seems to only be a no-documentation-available problem. (I remember I got some email address of a woman working at SGI I should have contacted a week or two ago...). I'd love to sign a 1US$/year contract with SGI as Flo suggested, but this doesn't ease (nor solve) the problem. Even if I would get some sources from eg Irix5.2 (to figure out the bootstrap process) I wouldn't be allowed to use it in GPL'ed work because of parts being licensed from other companies;( However, there were some documents found. Save them. Save them at a very save place as they might disappear which is somewhat "normal" for documentation;) Maybe there will (at some certain time) be someone at SGI who has got enough spare time to evaluate docs and sources. Maybe licensed parts can be removed without removing all necessary infos to build a kernel for Indigos. This would be equal to what IBM does to their JFS (with one difference: Indigos are equal to=20 a mid-class 486, JFS is even today a first-class fs). This unfortunately requires menwork and so it is costly;( I also think that is isn't really cheap to port XFS, as well. But porting XFS is a step forward,=20 making Indigos is kind of nostalgic... MfG, JBG --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! /* Jan-Benedict Glaw -- +49-177-5601720 */ keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB ...und aus aktuellem Anla=DF: ILOVEYOU, Linux! --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEAREBAAYFAjkfIwYACgkQHb1edYOZ4bsV9wCfZnwzgJpLJXG8Jqo6cXoGMJ67 MIMAni44IACMhujFEAsIrxuGRb1h/ZGg =PO4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun May 14 15:19:50 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:19:30 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46194 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:19:25 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA19825; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:14:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA04043 for linux-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:15:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA04009 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:15:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de [193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA06899 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 15:15:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B31E151314; Mon, 15 May 2000 00:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:15:18 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: SGI-MIPS List Subject: 2.3.99-pre8 -> 2.3.99-pre9-1 Message-ID: <20000515001518.B6575@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: SGI-MIPS List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I see quite a lot of mips and mips64 changes in pre9-1 patch... That reminds me to ask when there will be a full merge of the CVS repository with the mainstream kernel? MfG, JBG --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! /* Jan-Benedict Glaw -- +49-177-5601720 */ keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB ...und aus aktuellem Anla=DF: ILOVEYOU, Linux! --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEAREBAAYFAjkfJXYACgkQHb1edYOZ4btN6QCcDlGBzKOwF1xbZsVrEKMIyUST gj0An2rRzmJt2Nu9I9CwDklTk3BRASnp =pFWz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 11:30:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:30:02 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:61975 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:29:44 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA01824; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA22291 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA81847 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A5FA78D7 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I was talking to my manager and she agreed to make the documentation for the Indy public. The location is: oss.sgi.com /pub/linux/mips/doc/indy I think everything is there except for the HAL2 specification that I wasn't able to find and some PBUS documentation that I wasn't able to convert. I will give that one another try.. Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 13:15:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:14:52 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56623 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:14:36 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA20535; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA84999 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18400 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:07:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA00579 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:07:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12rR9V-0007fq-00; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:07:45 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 15 May 2000 22:07:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:19:53 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000515211953.B27189@bilbo.physik.uni-konstanz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:22:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing With these docs it will be fun to make use of xaa in the xserver(but it's still a long pat(c)h up to this point... -- Guido On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:22:24AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I was talking to my manager and she agreed to make the documentation for the > Indy public. The location is: > > oss.sgi.com /pub/linux/mips/doc/indy > > I think everything is there except for the HAL2 specification that I wasn't > able to find and some PBUS documentation that I wasn't able to convert. I > will give that one another try.. > > Ulf > -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 13:50:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:50:33 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:65062 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:50:03 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA01059; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:54:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA93293 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:44:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA20202 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:44:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from staff.cerf.net (staff.cerf.net [198.137.140.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA01290 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:44:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from sdhqdt0132 (dhcp684.hq.sd.cerf.net [192.215.14.84]) by staff.cerf.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4FKirj01409 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:44:53 GMT From: "Eric Watkins" To: Subject: SGI-Linux port progress? Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <003801bfbeae$6ccffc20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-Filtered-By: VBFilter 1.0 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I was just gifted/given an Indigo 2. It's working so I don't need any parts but I do want to know what the status of the hardhat project is. The files I found on the sgi site seemed out of date. Is any progress being made here? How soon till I can install linux without having IRIX on my harddrive? All of the FAQs/docs I could find seemed to have IRIX as a requirement to partition the HD properly. Thanks! From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 14:14:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:14:33 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:56873 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:14:12 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA07259; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:18:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA81021; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA19842 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA70773 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ppopov@redcreek.com) Received: from exchange.redcreek.com (mail.redcreek.com [209.125.38.15]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA06262 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ppopov@redcreek.com) Received: from redcreek.com (host120.redcreek.com [209.218.26.120]) by exchange.redcreek.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KCP8VDLF; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3920677D.221EC442@redcreek.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:09:17 -0700 From: Peter Popov Organization: RedCreek Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux@engr.sgi.com" Subject: general mips question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Is it possible to "walk" the stack on a mips system after a crash to figure out all the functions which were called upto and including the function where the crash occurred? For example, I can do that on an i960 system because of the help I get from the cpu in creating a stack and saving some registers for every function call. If A called B which called C which called D, I can walk the stack on an i960 system and figure out how I got to D. But I can't quite figure out how to do that in software on a mips system. All I can get is the return address of the current function -- eg if the system crashed in D, all I can get is the return address which is somewhere in function C. Any ideas? Thanks, Pete From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 14:30:23 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:30:13 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:13612 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:29:55 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA01615; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA36194 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA19442; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA04478; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:24:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.4]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17930; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:24:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:23:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:23:58 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Florian Lohoff , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from geert@linux-m68k.org on Sun, May 14, 2000 at 08:58:18PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 08:58:18PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > YES! Time to put _all_ docs you can find on CDR. I always keep all technical > docs I download to store them on CDR from time to time, since those docs tend > to vanish after a while (especially if they were on the manufacturer's > website). More documentation jewels - I've got now paper copies of R8000 documentation and a collection of stuff regarding the R6000. I was told that the R6000 was so buggy that understanding the internal circuitry is a prerequisite for writing an OS bug now I got everything we need. Except a R6000 machine :-) Also I found that there is still a huge pile of Exabyte tapes that have the final full backup from the day when MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. was shutdown by SGI after MIPS got bought in the early 90's. That means that provided the legal problems involved with publication of such documentation get solved we now have everything that is required to support every machine ever made by MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 15 14:37:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:37:43 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56403 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:37:22 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA02530; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA45488 for linux-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:33:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA17609 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:33:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA00597 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:33:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-4.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.4]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18735; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:33:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:32:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:32:49 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Peter Popov Cc: "linux@engr.sgi.com" Subject: Re: general mips question Message-ID: <20000515233249.F1682@uni-koblenz.de> References: <3920677D.221EC442@redcreek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3920677D.221EC442@redcreek.com>; from ppopov@redcreek.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 02:09:17PM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 02:09:17PM -0700, Peter Popov wrote: > Is it possible to "walk" the stack on a mips system after a crash to > figure out all the functions which were called upto and including the > function where the crash occurred? For example, I can do that on an > i960 system because of the help I get from the cpu in creating a stack > and saving some registers for every function call. If A called B which > called C which called D, I can walk the stack on an i960 system and > figure out how I got to D. But I can't quite figure out how to do that > in software on a mips system. All I can get is the return address of > the current function -- eg if the system crashed in D, all I can get is > the return address which is somewhere in function C. Any ideas? Well, you couldn't figure out simply because it's not possible to unwind MIPS stackframes without the help of debug information or doing stunts like analysing the code of the returning function. A reasonable heuristic should be to search the stack for words that have valid text addresses in them. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 03:22:21 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:22:01 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:5718 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:21:39 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA01427; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:26:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA29518 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:15:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA36985 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:15:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA07472 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:15:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 566177FA; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BB208FA7; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:08:30 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000516120830.F2191@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:23:58PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:23:58PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 08:58:18PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > YES! Time to put _all_ docs you can find on CDR. I always keep all technical > > docs I download to store them on CDR from time to time, since those docs tend > > to vanish after a while (especially if they were on the manufacturer's > > website). > > More documentation jewels - I've got now paper copies of R8000 documentation > and a collection of stuff regarding the R6000. I was told that the R6000 > was so buggy that understanding the internal circuitry is a prerequisite > for writing an OS bug now I got everything we need. Except a R6000 > machine :-) What is the license or publishing restrictions of those documents ? > Also I found that there is still a huge pile of Exabyte tapes that have the > final full backup from the day when MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. was > shutdown by SGI after MIPS got bought in the early 90's. That means that > provided the legal problems involved with publication of such documentation > get solved we now have everything that is required to support every machine > ever made by MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. How will these legal issues be brought on the track ? I think both companies (SGI + Mips) should have an interest to free up these documents or at least hand out to some people who sign some kind of NDA. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 03:40:41 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:40:22 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:30500 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:40:07 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA15945; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:35:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA01964; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA95016 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:26:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA70853 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:26:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA07274 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:26:45 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id CF3377F3; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 225BA8FA7; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:06 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Eric Watkins Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SGI-Linux port progress? Message-ID: <20000516122606.I2191@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <003801bfbeae$6ccffc20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003801bfbeae$6ccffc20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net>; from watkinse@attens.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:44:54PM -0700 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:44:54PM -0700, Eric Watkins wrote: > Hello, > > I was just gifted/given an Indigo 2. > > It's working so I don't need any parts but I do want to know what the status > of the hardhat project is. The files I found on the sgi site seemed out of > date. Is any progress being made here? Yep it is - The current CVS kernel is basically ok (Same errors as on i386 with memory leaks) - You will need some more hacking to get some useful output - I am by far a kernel hacker but i and Klaus Naumann try to fix the tiny bits to get everything to run out of the box. > How soon till I can install linux without having IRIX on my harddrive? All > of the FAQs/docs I could find seemed to have IRIX as a requirement to > partition the HD properly. Nope - no irix requirement - You need an NFS Root - Kernel Level autoconfig kernel - Then enter bootp():vmlinux console=ttyS0 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=: rw on your indigo2 bootprom command line - Afterwards if the hardhat is installed on the boot/tftp/nfs server you will see your indigo2 booting on the serial (No Prom Console/Framebuffer support yet) Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 04:08:10 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:51 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:344 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:42 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA08490; Tue, 16 May 2000 04:12:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA44804 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA43722; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA01062; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id DAA26933; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id DAA26380; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a301bfbf26$363a5c00$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Florian Lohoff" , "Ralf Baechle" Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" , "Ulf Carlsson" , , , Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:02:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -----Original Message----- From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven ; Ulf Carlsson ; linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ; linux-mips@fnet.fr ; linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Indy Documentation .... >> Also I found that there is still a huge pile of Exabyte tapes that have the >> final full backup from the day when MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. was >> shutdown by SGI after MIPS got bought in the early 90's. That means that >> provided the legal problems involved with publication of such documentation >> get solved we now have everything that is required to support every machine >> ever made by MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. > >How will these legal issues be brought on the track ? I think both >companies (SGI + Mips) should have an interest to free up these documents >or at least hand out to some people who sign some kind of NDA. > >Flo While MIPS Technologies Inc owns the microprocessor IP of the old MIPS Computer Systems, as well as much that was developed while MIPS was part of SGI, it is less than obvious what rights or responsibilites the new MIPS Technologies has with respect to the computer systems part of the pre-SGI MIPS business. It is quite possible that all that stuff stayed with SGI when MIPS Technologies spun out. I will forward the message to our legal people and see what they have to say. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 07:28:32 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:28:24 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:33093 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:28:07 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA03536; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:23:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA74983 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA84729 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA03133 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-10.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.10]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18261; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:19:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:23:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:23:14 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jun Sun Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: dumb question - where is the latest linux/mips kernel source? Message-ID: <20000516132314.B4561@uni-koblenz.de> References: <39209F64.83638479@mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39209F64.83638479@mvista.com>; from jsun@mvista.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:07:49PM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:07:49PM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > I found > ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/src/kernel/v2.3/linux-19991209.tar.gz, > but that is version 2.3.21. Have all the patches been taken into the > latest standard linux release? Just to make sure ... We only occasionally generate snapshots. If you want a current source tree then please see the MIPS FAQ at http://oss.sgi.com/mips/ for how to use anonymous CVS. CVS is currently at version 2.3.99-pre8. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 07:31:32 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:31:23 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:34630 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:31:04 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA03925; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA33203; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA32725 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA72490 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA03853 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-10.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-10.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.10]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18283; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:19:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:36:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:36:20 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jun Sun Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HELP : ptrace returns puzzling results Message-ID: <20000516133620.C4561@uni-koblenz.de> References: <392045FC.827CACB5@mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <392045FC.827CACB5@mvista.com>; from jsun@mvista.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:46:20AM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:46:20AM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > I am writing a gdbserver for linux/mips. The server can now talk with > the gdb client, and can run to completion if you press 'c'. Excellent. > However, the gdb client reads some confusing register values. I traced > back to the gdbserver and found out that these values are returned from > ptrace(), which seem wrong. On the other hand, the native gdb must be > using the same ptrace() to get register values. I wonder why it works > there. > > Here is a sample output from gdbserver calling ptrace. Note that PC > value does not corresponds to the executable image. sp also seems > wrong. > reg #29 ($29,sp) = 2147483120 (0x7ffffdf0) The value of sp looks sane, it a value near the absolute top of the stack at 0x80000000. > reg #37 ($64,pc) = 263607008 (0x0fb652e0) Also looks sane at first look, this value is in the typical address range where the dynamic linker gets mapped. Many of the registers in the dump you gave have a value of zero and that is worrying me much more. All the caller saved registers are zero, that smells. What kernel version are you using? Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 10:29:14 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:29:04 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:3703 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:28:52 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA27745; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA76947; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA50060 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA84860; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:17:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA70588; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3921829C.9AB0FB4E@engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:17:16 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Lohoff CC: Ralf Baechle , Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de> <20000516120830.F2191@paradigm.rfc822.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Florian Lohoff wrote: > [...] > > What is the license or publishing restrictions of those documents ? > The documentation is copyrighted by SGI. Attached are two sections from internal web pages at SGi explaining copyright infringement and fair use of copyright material. For more information on U.S. laws regarding copyrights, see http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html =============== WHAT IS COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT? Copyright infringement occurs where someone copies all or a significant portion of a copyrighted work. To prove infringement, a copyright holder must demonstrate that the alleged infringer had access to the original work (typically a reasonable opportunity to see or hear it), and that the infringer's resulting work was substantially similar thereto. The copyright holder need not prove such access where the similarity between the works is so striking as to preclude the possibility that one was created without reference to the other. Although this is still a developing area of the law, courts have held computer software copyrights infringed when object code was disassembled, translated into another language, modified, or emulated by utilizing the same "structure, sequence, and organization" as the original. Under this rule, it is entirely possible that one software program could infringe the copyright of another without having a single line of code identical to the copyrighted work. On a more basic level, literal copying of a work (or even a small but significant portion) will also infringe the original. Silicon Graphics is committed to protecting its works (especially software programs) through copyright registration, and to avoiding copyright infringement by company employees. Please bring any suspected copyright infringement to Legal Services' attention as quickly as possible. For specific information regarding Silicon Graphics' position on copyright infringement, see Legal Services' document called "Intellectual Property Policies and Guidelines" WHAT IS "FAIR USE"OF A COPYRIGHTED WORK? Not all copying of copyrighted works is illegal. The "fair use" doctrine allows unauthorized copying of all or portions of copyrighted works in certain instances, but typically on a "not-for-profit" basis. Since most Silicon Graphics' uses are on a "for-profit" basis, as they are in connection with our business, we are unlikely to meet these requirements. Therefore, if you wish to use tables, figures, pictures, sound, extensive quotations, or other aspects of a copyrighted work, we must first secure the written permission of the work's author. When in doubt, please assume that you need such authorization, and contact Legal Services for assistance. ======= The short answer is that Ralf cannot make copies and distribute the documents he has without permission from SGI. Seeing how I gave him the docs, I can certainly talk to our legal department to see if it's possible to allow him to make copies. We would have to take the contents of the Exabyte types under the same consideration - i.e. review for legal rights to distribute contents. It's quite possible that there are contents on backup tapes that SGI has no right to redistribute. Nancy -- Nancy Bigham SGI MS 8U-500 650 933-1608 bigham@engr.sgi.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 10:41:34 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:41:25 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:43129 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:41:03 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA02255; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:45:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA77835; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA00955 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA34634 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA91685 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3921864E.95ECC46B@engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:33:02 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [Fwd: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing resending bounced mail. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ] Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:13:23 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-linux@cthulhu To: owner-linux@cthulhu Ralf Baechle wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:07:49PM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > > > I found > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/src/kernel/v2.3/linux-19991209.tar.gz, > > but that is version 2.3.21. Have all the patches been taken into the > > latest standard linux release? Just to make sure ... > > We only occasionally generate snapshots. If you want a current source > tree then please see the MIPS FAQ at http://oss.sgi.com/mips/ for how to > use anonymous CVS. CVS is currently at version 2.3.99-pre8. > > Ralf I see. Is the intention to merge MIPS work back to the standard Linux tree? If yes, do we have an idea when? If no, I assume the MIPS branch has to keep getting forward merges from the standard tree. That will be a pain. Jun From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 11:08:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:08:36 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:19718 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:08:20 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA03367; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA51588 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:02:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA22752 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:02:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA68442 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39218D50.F09EBACD@engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:02:56 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [Fwd: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ] Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-linux@cthulhu To: owner-linux@cthulhu >From owner-linux Tue May 16 10:49:55 2000 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA52215 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsun@mvista.com) Received: from hermes.mvista.com (gateway.mvista.com [63.192.220.206]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA06183 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsun@mvista.com) Received: from mvista.com (IDENT:jsun@orion.mvista.com [10.0.0.75]) by hermes.mvista.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22202; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:43 -0700 Sender: jsun@hermes.mvista.com Message-ID: <39218A14.919D119A@mvista.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:49:08 -0700 From: Jun Sun X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20b i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Baechle CC: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HELP : ptrace returns puzzling results References: <392045FC.827CACB5@mvista.com> <20000516133620.C4561@uni-koblenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralf Baechle wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:46:20AM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > > > I am writing a gdbserver for linux/mips. The server can now talk with > > the gdb client, and can run to completion if you press 'c'. > > > reg #29 ($29,sp) = 2147483120 (0x7ffffdf0) > > The value of sp looks sane, it a value near the absolute top of the stack > at 0x80000000. > > > reg #37 ($64,pc) = 263607008 (0x0fb652e0) > > Also looks sane at first look, this value is in the typical address range > where the dynamic linker gets mapped. > > Many of the registers in the dump you gave have a value of zero and that is > worrying me much more. All the caller saved registers are zero, that > smells. > I looked at the problem again. The registers are actually correct. Most registers are zero becase that is the program start up time (in exec()). I now can set a breakpoint and run until that breakpoint. However, step or next or setting another breakpoint do not work. It appears that gdbserver calls ptrace with PTRACE_SINGLESTEP option, which is not implemented in the kernel I am using (it is v2.3.99-pre3). Is this implemented in the latest version? If not, is it difficult to add one? Or can we get around without it? Jun From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 12:55:11 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:54:52 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:13069 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:54:41 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA09355; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:59:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA18219 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA92013 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA02674 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05081 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 21:48:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:47:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:47:42 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: SGI-MIPS List Subject: Re: 2.3.99-pre8 -> 2.3.99-pre9-1 Message-ID: <20000516164742.B5017@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000515001518.B6575@lug-owl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000515001518.B6575@lug-owl.de>; from jbglaw@lug-owl.de on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:15:18AM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:15:18AM +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > I see quite a lot of mips and mips64 changes in pre9-1 patch... That > reminds me to ask when there will be a full merge of the CVS repository > with the mainstream kernel? Hopefully soon. Various mostly minor things need to be cleaned out before they can be sent to Linus but basically we're ready. Today I've sent a few more patches to Linus for inclusion into pre9-3 which add various portability hooks which we need for various MIPS hardware. Currently the diff between Linus' kernel and our CVS kernel is pretty small. Which is good news. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 12:56:52 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:56:41 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:54285 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:56:30 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09109; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:01:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA01186; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA12125 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:49:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA39669; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA05870; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05115; Tue, 16 May 2000 21:48:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:40:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:40:28 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: Ralf Baechle , Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000516184028.C5113@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de> <20000516120830.F2191@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516120830.F2191@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:08:30PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:08:30PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > More documentation jewels - I've got now paper copies of R8000 > > documentation and a collection of stuff regarding the R6000. I was told > > that the R6000 was so buggy that understanding the internal circuitry is > > a prerequisite for writing an OS bug now I got everything we need. > > Except a R6000 machine :-) > > What is the license or publishing restrictions of those documents ? No idea. > How will these legal issues be brought on the track ? I think both > companies (SGI + Mips) should have an interest to free up these documents > or at least hand out to some people who sign some kind of NDA. This is all about rather old machines and also involves investing some resources so the interest is limited. Unfortunately this is a quite generic truth which is valid far beyond the borders of this case and these two companies. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 13:24:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:13 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56366 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:04 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA22838; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:19:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA12498 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA68705 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:18:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA10701 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3921AD2D.95843F5@engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:18:53 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [Fwd: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Klaus Naumann ]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Klaus Naumann ] Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-linux@cthulhu To: owner-linux@cthulhu >From owner-linux Tue May 16 11:40:20 2000 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA22782 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (spock@mgnet.de) Received: from asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.84]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA05149 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (spock@mgnet.de) Received: from sunnyboy.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de by asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with Local SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 May 2000 20:40:13 +0200 Received: from scotty.mgnet.de (sevenofnine.csn.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.96.133]) by sunnyboy.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05440 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:40:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 22691 invoked from network); 16 May 2000 18:40:12 -0000 Received: from spock.mgnet.de (HELO scotty.mgnet.de) (192.168.1.4) by scotty.mgnet.de with SMTP; 16 May 2000 18:40:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:40:22 +0200 From: Klaus Naumann To: "Linux MIPS engr . sgi . com" , Linux MIPS Subject: [PATCH] Merging CPU & Machine selection in config.in Message-ID: <20000516204022.B598@spock> Reply-To: spock@mgnet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="+fexcqMh/evT6CrY" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 0.8.0-pre1 --+fexcqMh/evT6CrY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, attached is a patch which merges the CPU and machine selection in the kernel configuration into one Main Menu. The reason is that I think it's not necessary to have two main menus used for this task. Please tell me if you like this idea or not and if so why you don't like it. CU Klaus -- Full Name : Klaus Naumann | (http://www.mgnet.de/) (Germany) Nickname : Spock | Org.: Mad Guys Network Phone / FAX : ++49/3661/675457 | E-Mail: (spock@mgnet.de) PGP Key : www.mgnet.de/keys/key_spock.txt --+fexcqMh/evT6CrY Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="config.in-cpuandmachine.patch" diff -Nur linux/arch/mips/config.in linux.build/arch/mips/config.in --- linux/arch/mips/config.in Tue May 16 16:56:08 2000 +++ linux.build/arch/mips/config.in Tue May 16 17:14:36 2000 @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ endmenu mainmenu_option next_comment -comment 'Machine selection' +comment 'Machine/CPU selection' bool 'Support for Acer PICA 1 chipset' CONFIG_ACER_PICA_61 if [ "$CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL" = "y" ]; then bool 'Support for Algorithmics P4032 (EXPERIMENTAL)' CONFIG_ALGOR_P4032 @@ -23,6 +23,38 @@ bool 'Support for SGI IP22' CONFIG_SGI_IP22 bool 'Support for SNI RM200 PCI' CONFIG_SNI_RM200_PCI +choice 'CPU type' \ + "R3000 CONFIG_CPU_R3000 \ + R6000 CONFIG_CPU_R6000 \ + R4300 CONFIG_CPU_R4300 \ + R4x00 CONFIG_CPU_R4X00 \ + R5000 CONFIG_CPU_R5000 \ + R56x0 CONFIG_CPU_NEVADA \ + R8000 CONFIG_CPU_R8000 \ + R10000 CONFIG_CPU_R10000" R4x00 + +bool 'Advanced CPU Config' CONFIG_CPU_ADVANCED + +if [ "$CONFIG_CPU_ADVANCED" = "y" ]; then + bool ' ll/sc Instructions available' CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC + bool ' Writeback Buffer available' CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB +else + if [ "$CONFIG_CPU_R3000" = "y" ]; then + if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" ]; then + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC n + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB y + else + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC n + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB n + fi + else + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC y + define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB n + fi +fi + + + # # Select some configuration options automatically for certain systems. # @@ -76,40 +108,6 @@ if [ "$CONFIG_PCI" != "y" ]; then define_bool CONFIG_PCI n fi -endmenu - -mainmenu_option next_comment - comment 'CPU selection' - - choice 'CPU type' \ - "R3000 CONFIG_CPU_R3000 \ - R6000 CONFIG_CPU_R6000 \ - R4300 CONFIG_CPU_R4300 \ - R4x00 CONFIG_CPU_R4X00 \ - R5000 CONFIG_CPU_R5000 \ - R56x0 CONFIG_CPU_NEVADA \ - R8000 CONFIG_CPU_R8000 \ - R10000 CONFIG_CPU_R10000" R4x00 - - bool 'Override CPU Options' CONFIG_CPU_ADVANCED - - if [ "$CONFIG_CPU_ADVANCED" = "y" ]; then - bool ' ll/sc Instructions available' CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC - bool ' Writeback Buffer available' CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB - else - if [ "$CONFIG_CPU_R3000" = "y" ]; then - if [ "$CONFIG_DECSTATION" = "y" ]; then - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC n - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB y - else - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC n - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB n - fi - else - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_LLSC y - define_bool CONFIG_CPU_HAS_WB n - fi - fi endmenu mainmenu_option next_comment --+fexcqMh/evT6CrY-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 13:25:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:25:13 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:38417 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:59 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09085; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:29:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA03254 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:11:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA73527 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:11:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA05367 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:11:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07131; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:11:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:10:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:10:30 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jun Sun Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HELP : ptrace returns puzzling results Message-ID: <20000516221030.D6174@uni-koblenz.de> References: <392045FC.827CACB5@mvista.com> <20000516133620.C4561@uni-koblenz.de> <39218A14.919D119A@mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39218A14.919D119A@mvista.com>; from jsun@mvista.com on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:49:08AM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:49:08AM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > However, step or next or setting another breakpoint do not work. It > appears that gdbserver calls ptrace with PTRACE_SINGLESTEP option, which > is not implemented in the kernel I am using (it is v2.3.99-pre3). Is > this implemented in the latest version? If not, is it difficult to add > one? Or can we get around without it? PTRACE_SINGLESTEP is meant to be implemented using hardware single stepping. That's something which most MIPS CPUs don't support. It can be simulated in userspace, so there is no point in putting it into the kernel ergo we won't implement it. There's actually a good number of CPUs which don't have hardware breakpoints so you should check what gdbserver does for those other architectures. The generic solution is to write a breakpoint into the logically next instruction(s). Usually that's at epc + 4 but there are branch instructions to make live more entertaining ... Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 13:25:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:25:13 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:28207 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:55 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA22967; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA83418 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA06832 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:17:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA09095 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:17:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07758; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:17:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:16:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:16:58 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jun Sun Cc: Ralf Baechle , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: dumb question - where is the latest linux/mips kernel source? Message-ID: <20000516221658.E6174@uni-koblenz.de> References: <39209F64.83638479@mvista.com> <20000516132314.B4561@uni-koblenz.de> <39218130.444EB4A3@mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39218130.444EB4A3@mvista.com>; from jsun@mvista.com on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:11:12AM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:11:12AM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > Is the intention to merge MIPS work back to the standard Linux tree? If > yes, do we have an idea when? If no, I assume the MIPS branch has to > keep getting forward merges from the standard tree. That will be a > pain. Most of the changes have already been merged with Linus. The situation is now sufficiently confusing that I'll wait for pre9-3 or even the next `real' patch before continuing to merge with Linus. In any case our diffs should be now down to less than 10% of what they used to be and I'll continue to shrink them further. The perspective of 2.4 compiling out of the box for MIPS is pretty close to reallity, including even MIPS64, SMP and Origin. In any case we'll keep merging into our separate tree. That's where all the development happens and where we send the good bits to Linus from time to time. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 13:28:43 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:28:23 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:55057 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:28:19 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09363; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:32:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA93409 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:23:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA66450 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA03368 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:23:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08541; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:23:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:23:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:23:00 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Klaus Naumann Cc: "Linux MIPS engr . sgi . com" , Linux MIPS Subject: Re: SGI Seeq byte accounting patch Message-ID: <20000516222300.A6537@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000516173712.A598@spock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516173712.A598@spock>; from spock@mgnet.de on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:37:12PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:37:12PM +0200, Klaus Naumann wrote: > Flo and me worked on a patch for the SGI Seeq driver the other day. > The result is attached. Basically the patch fixes the byte accounting > in /proc/net/dev. Without this patch RX and TX byte were 0 all time. > The initialization of the static variable is just a cleanup of the code, > so you can ignore it b/c it has nothing to do with the actual fix. > Can anyone please test this patch on a system with a SGI Seeq and tell > us if the values are correct or if it works ? > We are very sure that the RX values are correct - discussion about TX is > ongoing ;). > Any help is appriciated. Also if you don't have a SGI Seeq board but > know a save way to find out if the values are correct please tell us. Looks good, applied. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 16 20:26:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 03:26:22 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:44293 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 03:26:08 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA04833; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:21:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA83591; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA46643 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:15:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA60331 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: from gnyf.wheel.dk (gnyf.wheel.dk [193.162.159.104]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA02993 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:15:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: (from soren@localhost) by gnyf.wheel.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA21109; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:15:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:15:24 +0200 From: "Soren S. Jorvang" To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, I seem to remember some dire warnings about the O2 ARCS PROM needing special care and feeding to even do basic stuff. Am I on crack? FWIW, as a system console it works just for me as the Indy, at least well enough to do PCI enumeration and play with NetBSD DDB. Of course, there still isn't really any hardware documentation beyond sys/mace.h and friends.. -- Soren From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 17 05:15:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:15:46 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:22343 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:15:32 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA13378; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:10:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA46521; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA18927 for linux-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:58:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA26280; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:58:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA06725; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:58:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5C18D805; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:58:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 674518FA7; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:39:27 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Nancy Bigham Cc: Ralf Baechle , Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000517133927.C296@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000513183248.C1279@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000515232358.E1682@uni-koblenz.de> <20000516120830.F2191@paradigm.rfc822.org> <3921829C.9AB0FB4E@engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3921829C.9AB0FB4E@engr.sgi.com>; from bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:17:16AM -0700 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:17:16AM -0700, Nancy Bigham wrote: > The short answer is that Ralf cannot make copies and distribute the > documents he has without permission from SGI. Seeing how I gave him the > docs, I can certainly talk to our legal department to see if it's > possible to allow him to make copies. > > We would have to take the contents of the Exabyte types under the same > consideration - i.e. review for legal rights to distribute contents. > It's quite possible that there are contents on backup tapes that SGI has > no right to redistribute. Could you bring this on the track ? There are a coule of people really interested in getting documentation even for VERY old machines which are Technically still alive. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 17 09:15:07 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:14:58 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:57470 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:14:57 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA10471; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA12791; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA38367 for linux-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA10234 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:02:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from sirio.tecmor.mx (sirio.tecmor.mx [200.33.171.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA03256 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:01:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx) Received: from localhost (gnava@localhost) by sirio.tecmor.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14265; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:04:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:04:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Gabriel Nava Vazquez To: Guido Guenther cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xfree86 on an indy In-Reply-To: <20000513162907.A16713@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing How can i run xfree86 on my indy box? Which version do i need, and which kernel? thanks Ing. Gabriel Nava Vazquez Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia Mexico From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 17 09:25:08 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:24:48 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:51549 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:24:30 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA03110; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA96034 for linux-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:16:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA63190; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:16:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA05714; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-20.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-20.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.20]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18622; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:15:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:06:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:06:26 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" Cc: Florian Lohoff , Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Message-ID: <20000517180626.D814@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000516184028.C5113@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 01:16:58PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 01:16:58PM +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > I wish companies released specs for products getting out of commercial > interest on a regular basis. I believe this would assure their customers > of a good investment in hardware their purchased, as it would make it > supportable infinitely, i.e. until it physically dies. It would make it > more valuable even if a customer decides it's not needed anymore -- it > would be salable to Linux users, for example. Otherwise these systems > qualify as computer junk and this sort of equipment is expensive to get > rid of. This world also has an economic part and there a machine that is written of in the books, that is after just a few years, has no more value and even becomes a burden. So in most companies perfectly usable and even adequate configured machines get replaced. At this point the manufacturers' interested in supplying services also decays because there is just no more sufficient customer demand and economic justification to keep spare parts (read: dead capital) and trained personal. For private customers it's not that much different, usually the machine goes to the dustbin when the newest slash & kill 3D games are turning into a slide show. So after just a few years most manufacturers will flush everything including the old documentation down the drain. Add the fact that the companies of interest are mostly US located where people change their job more often than their pants ... Specs are a bit special, though. You wouldn't believe how many high tech specs don't exist in a form that is publishable. That's very common in places where the authors of the specs and it's readers are close to each other, that is in traditional system companies such as Digital, SGI, Sun or HP. Their motivation to actually produce high quality documentation used to be relativly low since at the time of product development the assumption was that they'd never ever publish the specs. Free operating systems are changing the rules of the game, so expect the way documentation is handled to change as well. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 17 10:12:07 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:11:48 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:40547 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:11:29 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA06683; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:16:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA27923 for linux-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:01:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA10979 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:01:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00591 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:01:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12s7Bc-0006jJ-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:00:44 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 17 May 2000 18:59:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:59:26 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Gabriel Nava Vazquez Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: xfree86 on an indy Message-ID: <20000517185925.B27936@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Gabriel Nava Vazquez , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000513162907.A16713@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from gnava@sirio.tecmor.mx on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:04:05AM -0500 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Fetch the X400src-1.tgz from any xfree86 mirror near you and apply the latest patch found at http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/mipslinux/x. Then follow the instructions in xc/INSTALL.TXT. I'm using a self compiled kernel from the snapshot: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/linux-2.2.13-20000211.tar.bz2 since I had little luck with later versions from cvs. Note that the xserver is currently of little use since the mouse is not working(SIGIO problem). Regards, -- Guido On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:04:05AM -0500, Gabriel Nava Vazquez wrote: > How can i run xfree86 on my indy box? Which version do i need, and which > kernel? > > thanks > > Ing. Gabriel Nava Vazquez > Instituto Tecnologico de Morelia > Mexico > > -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 17 13:04:48 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:04:29 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:48966 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:04:02 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA13089; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:59:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA48323; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA84517 for linux-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA62600 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:53:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA08677 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-29.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.29]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12703; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:53:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:53:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:53:11 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Soren S. Jorvang" Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk>; from soren@wheel.dk on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:15:24AM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:15:24AM +0200, Soren S. Jorvang wrote: > I seem to remember some dire warnings about the O2 ARCS PROM > needing special care and feeding to even do basic stuff. Am I > on crack? > > FWIW, as a system console it works just for me as the Indy, at > least well enough to do PCI enumeration and play with NetBSD DDB. > > Of course, there still isn't really any hardware documentation > beyond sys/mace.h and friends.. The ARCS firmware isn't the big deal but the R10000 support for this system or any other non-cachecoherent system. Harald Koerfgen has started poking at an O2 port and he's got first success. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 02:29:40 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:29:31 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:27479 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:29:14 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA29167; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:24:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA79324; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA93673 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:12:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA99058 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:12:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA08612 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:12:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 053E17F4; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:12:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 58C218FA7; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 01:16:56 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: "Soren S. Jorvang" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:53:11PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:53:11PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > The ARCS firmware isn't the big deal but the R10000 support for this > system or any other non-cachecoherent system. Harald Koerfgen has > started poking at an O2 port and he's got first success. BTW: Is there any Documentation for the ARC Firmware of the SGIs ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 04:59:15 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:58:55 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:3112 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:58:36 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA09357; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:03:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA98591; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA54854 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:48:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA35395 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:48:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA06108 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:48:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-5.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-5.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.5]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22784; Thu, 18 May 2000 13:48:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 13:47:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:47:35 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: "Soren S. Jorvang" , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000518134735.A1078@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de> <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:16:56AM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:16:56AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:53:11PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > The ARCS firmware isn't the big deal but the R10000 support for this > > system or any other non-cachecoherent system. Harald Koerfgen has > > started poking at an O2 port and he's got first success. > > BTW: Is there any Documentation for the ARC Firmware of the SGIs ? I've got various dead tree document which document ARC. First there is the ARC standard, a document which is Microsoft and ACE copyrighted. This also defines various hardware properties like plugs, screen resolution, audio etc. These were already fairly lowend by '94 when I first saw the document. Consequentially a new standard was named ``Microsoft Portable Bootloader Standard'' was created which essentially is just most of the software parts from the full ARC standard. Both documents are completly NT centric. In the meantime I somewhere saw a newer version of the ARC standard which afair is copyrighted by some publishing company (Addison Wesley?). Not sure if it was actually published as a book. Finally there is SGI's variant ARCS which is big endian and has various other minor changes from the Portable Bootloader Standard. I don't know of any documentation. Not all SGI machines do even use ARCS. The older ones have a MIPS-style firmware, more current ones like the Origin have a ``enhanced subset'' of ARCS. Look into include/asm-mips64/sn/kl{config,dir}.h to find how those datastructures look. On the Origin for example quering the ARCS configuration tree doesn't work at all. For this new style configuration information there is not much more documentatin available than these IRIX header files. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 06:32:51 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 13:32:31 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:2678 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 13:32:26 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA16611; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:27:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA09920; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA55679 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:17:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA54193 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:17:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: from gnyf.wheel.dk (gnyf.wheel.dk [193.162.159.104]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA05838 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:16:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: (from soren@localhost) by gnyf.wheel.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05928; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:16:57 +0200 From: "Soren S. Jorvang" To: Florian Lohoff Cc: Ralf Baechle , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000518151657.A5906@gnyf.wheel.dk> References: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de> <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org>; from flo@rfc822.org on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:16:56AM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:16:56AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:53:11PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > The ARCS firmware isn't the big deal but the R10000 support for this > > system or any other non-cachecoherent system. Harald Koerfgen has > > started poking at an O2 port and he's got first success. > > BTW: Is there any Documentation for the ARC Firmware of the SGIs ? While not quite identical to the SGI ARCS firmware, http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/download/respec/riscspec.zip is useful. -- Soren From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 07:22:31 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:22:22 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:37939 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:22:04 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA02097; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA23190; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA68240 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA95308 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA08734 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12sR1d-0000jv-00; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:11:45 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 18 May 2000 16:11:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:11:36 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm still trying to get the mouse to work under X. The problem seems not to be related to X itself but to a kernel/glibc problem. X uses a SIGIO handler to "get notified" about mouse events. I wrote my own small SIGIO handler(see attached program) which works fine on my intel box but not on an indy (glibc-2.0.6-3lm/linux-2.2.13-20000211). Could please someone else run the attached program on mips/mipsel and check if it works or give me a hint where to start to look for the problem. Regards, -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/x-csrc; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sigio.c" # include # include # include # include # include # include # include static int fd = 0; fd_set sig_mask; static void sigio_handler (int sig) { int i; fd_set ready; struct timeval to; int r; ready = sig_mask; to.tv_sec = 0; to.tv_usec = 0; while(((r = select (fd+1, &ready, 0, 0, &to)) == -1) && (errno == EINTR)); if (FD_ISSET (fd, &ready)) printf("SIGIO Handler for fd %d\n", fd); } main() { struct sigaction sa; struct sigaction osa; printf("Installing SIGIO handler for fd: %d\n", fd); printf("Hitting return should call the SIGIO Handler\n"); sigemptyset(&sa.sa_mask); sigaddset(&sa.sa_mask, SIGIO); sa.sa_flags = 0; sa.sa_handler = sigio_handler; sigaction(SIGIO, &sa, &osa); FD_SET (fd, &sig_mask); if (fcntl(fd, F_SETOWN, getpid()) == -1) { printf("fcntl(%d, F_SETOWN): %s\n", fd, strerror(errno)); return 1; } if (fcntl(fd, F_SETFL, fcntl(fd, F_GETFL) | O_ASYNC) == -1) { printf("fcntl(%d, O_ASYNC): %s\n", fd, strerror(errno)); return 1; } while(1); return 0; } --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 08:39:02 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:38:53 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:30012 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:38:49 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA03105; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA37688; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA91895 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:24:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA85742 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA03088 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6BC9A7F4; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:24:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E568D8FA7; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:24:45 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [PATCH] sgi serial console - last fixes - ok to commit ? Message-ID: <20000518172445.A29326@paradigm.rfc822.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, any one suggestions for this patch - Ok to commit ? --------------------------------------------------------------- diff -u -r1.32 setup.c --- arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c 2000/04/06 20:26:58 1.32 +++ arch/mips/sgi/kernel/setup.c 2000/05/18 15:17:29 @@ -229,5 +213,5 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_VIDEO_VINO init_vino(); #endif + } -__initcall(rs_init); diff -u -r1.34 tty_io.c --- drivers/char/tty_io.c 2000/05/12 21:06:16 1.34 +++ drivers/char/tty_io.c 2000/05/18 15:17:34 @@ -2196,7 +2196,7 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE #ifdef CONFIG_8xx console_8xx_init(); -#elif defined(CONFIG_SERIAL) +#elif defined(CONFIG_SERIAL) || defined(CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL) serial_console_init(); #endif /* CONFIG_8xx */ #if defined(CONFIG_MVME162_SCC) || defined(CONFIG_BVME6000_SCC) || defined(CONFIG_MVME147_SCC) diff -u -r1.23 sgiserial.c --- drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c 2000/01/27 01:05:35 1.23 +++ drivers/sgi/char/sgiserial.c 2000/05/18 15:17:47 @@ -2251,3 +2251,4 @@ { register_console(&sgi_console_driver); } +__initcall(rs_init); --------------------------------------------------------------- Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 18 08:39:22 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:39:13 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:31804 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:38:53 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA02812; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:43:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA22017; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA87799 for linux-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA85657 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:28:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA06826 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-11.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-11.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.11]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10264; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:28:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:28:09 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: "Soren S. Jorvang" Cc: Florian Lohoff , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: O2 ARCS Message-ID: <20000518172809.D1455@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000517051524.A21067@gnyf.wheel.dk> <20000517215310.F779@uni-koblenz.de> <20000518011656.A721@paradigm.rfc822.org> <20000518151657.A5906@gnyf.wheel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000518151657.A5906@gnyf.wheel.dk>; from soren@wheel.dk on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:16:57PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:16:57PM +0200, Soren S. Jorvang wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:16:56AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:53:11PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > The ARCS firmware isn't the big deal but the R10000 support for this > > > system or any other non-cachecoherent system. Harald Koerfgen has > > > started poking at an O2 port and he's got first success. > > > > BTW: Is there any Documentation for the ARC Firmware of the SGIs ? > > While not quite identical to the SGI ARCS firmware, > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/download/respec/riscspec.zip > is useful. Staring at the winword file in this archive with strings this pretty much looks like one of the dead tree copies I was using for my work, so it's definately usable. The ARC / ARCS differences are not too big, just look into arch/mips/arc/ which handles them. The differences between specs and real world implementation is another thing - I haven't yet seen a single implementation that conforms to the spec. Which is why I believe the ARC spec should best be locked up in Fort Knox ;-) Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 19 07:56:34 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:56:25 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:12584 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:56:12 +0000 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA08489; Fri, 19 May 2000 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA66528; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA00909 for linux-list; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA92318 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA08133 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-21.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.21]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15900; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:31:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:37:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:37:37 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Guido Guenther , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000519143737.C1244@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 04:11:36PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 04:11:36PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > I'm still trying to get the mouse to work under X. The problem seems not > to be related to X itself but to a kernel/glibc problem. X uses a SIGIO > handler to "get notified" about mouse events. I wrote my own small SIGIO > handler(see attached program) which works fine on my intel box but not > on an indy (glibc-2.0.6-3lm/linux-2.2.13-20000211). Could please someone > else run the attached program on mips/mipsel and check if it works or > give me a hint where to start to look for the problem. Sigh... Looking at this the first thing I noticed was that the ancient strace that probably most of us are using prints wrong signal names and in general seems to have problems. Maybe I even just found the source of a good fraction of the GDB problems. Affects both mips and mips64. Looking at those ptrace problems first ... Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 19 08:09:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:08:55 +0000 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:23634 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:08:37 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ([192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA03128; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:57:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA30299 for linux-list; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA29846 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA00503 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 07:31:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-21.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-21.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.21]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15892; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:31:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:18:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:18:02 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Florian Lohoff Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Message-ID: <20000519131802.B1244@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000519083237Z305155-391+603@oss.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000519083237Z305155-391+603@oss.sgi.com>; from flo@oss.sgi.com on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 08:32:31AM +0000 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 08:32:31AM +0000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Log message: > Let tty_io.c call init_serial_console (CONFIG_SERIAL vs. CONFIG_SGI_SERIAL) Which reminds me that sgiserial.c and serial.c have a namespace collison that's actually relevant in certain configurations. I'll prepare a fix. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 19 15:55:15 2000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e4JMtFe03149 for linuxmips-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:55:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4JMtEU03144; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:55:14 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA05431; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:59:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA12361 for linux-list; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:45:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA06284 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:45:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: from rotor.chem.unr.edu (rotor.chem.unr.edu [134.197.32.176]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA08872 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:45:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: (from wesolows@localhost) by rotor.chem.unr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23333 for linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:45:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:45:11 -0700 From: Keith M Wesolowski To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New mini-distribution Message-ID: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Complaints-To: postmaster@chem.unr.edu Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hi all, I got bored last week and put together a new mini-distribution for SGIs. I know it works on Indigo2 at least. It's a lot smaller and has some more up to date components than Hard Hat. Perhaps it would be a good starting point for someone to use, or maybe it will be of no use to anyone but me. :) Those interested can read a quick HOWTO at http://foobazco.org/~wesolows/Install-HOWTO.html; the necessary files are at ftp://ftp.foobazco.org/pub/people/wesolows/mips-linux/. Quick rundown: Kernel 2.2.14 from CVS glibc 2.0.6 with patches egcs 1.1.2 with patches binutils 000425 with patches bash 2.04 vim 5.6 barebones initscripts miscellaneous useful software NFS-based installation Plans: Not much. I will probably try to get gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2 working with it, those being the least up to date parts of it all. I don't really think this is going anywhere; Debian will hopefully be finished soon. -- Keith M Wesolowski wesolows@chem.unr.edu University of Nevada http://www.chem.unr.edu Chemistry Department Systems and Network Administrator From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 20 08:30:50 2000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e4KFUoF10214 for linuxmips-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:30:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4KFUkn10211; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:30:47 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id FAA17834; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:24:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id FAA96000 for linux-list; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id FAA32841 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id FAA07325 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id B5DAE7D9; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:18:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E75BD8FA7; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:16:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:16:23 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Keith M Wesolowski Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New mini-distribution Message-ID: <20000520141623.I4085@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu>; from wesolows@chem.unr.edu on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 03:45:11PM -0700 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 03:45:11PM -0700, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > Not much. I will probably try to get gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2 working > with it, those being the least up to date parts of it all. I don't > really think this is going anywhere; Debian will hopefully be finished > soon. be officially started would be a better status definition :) There are a lot packages already available lacking most of the important ones like gcc/binutils/perl etc .. Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sat May 20 08:33:29 2000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e4KFXT810381 for linuxmips-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:33:29 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by oss.sgi.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4KFXPn10378; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:33:25 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA01142; Sat, 20 May 2000 07:25:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA85050 for linux-list; Sat, 20 May 2000 07:12:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA15002 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 07:12:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mailinglist@ichilton.co.uk) Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [195.102.240.129]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA04219 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 07:12:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mailinglist@ichilton.co.uk) Received: from [62.252.240.81] (helo=ian) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12t9zE-0004N6-00; Sat, 20 May 2000 15:12:16 +0100 From: "Ian Chilton" To: Cc: Subject: Linux on SGI, with X Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:13:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4132.2800 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Hello, Is it possible to run Linux on an SGI Indy, with X? I have found http://www.linux.sgi.com, but it says there is no X included, but it doesn't seem to have been updated for over a year....does anyone have any more information? Thanks! Bye for Now, Ian \|||/ (o o) /---------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------\ | Ian Chilton (IRC Nick - GadgetMan) ian@ichilton.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | Backup E-Mail --> ian@ichilton.dhis.org ICQ #: 16007717 | | Mobile Phone (MAX 150 Chars!) --> ianchilton@sms.genie.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.ianchilton.co.uk --> Main Page | | http://www.ichilton.co.uk --> Own Web Server (When Online) | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | "Unix is user friendly - it's just picky about it's friends." | \-----------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Sun May 21 19:48:46 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:48:36 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:43353 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:48:18 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA01166; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:43:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA32281 for linux-list; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:32:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA79670 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:32:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (machida@sm.sony.co.jp) Received: from ns4.sony.co.jp (ns4.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA03327 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:32:50 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (machida@sm.sony.co.jp) Received: from mail2.sony.co.jp (gatekeeper7.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.21]) by ns4.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id LAA48263; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from smail1.sm.sony.co.jp (smail1.sm.sony.co.jp [43.11.253.1]) by mail2.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id LAA07146; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from imail.sm.sony.co.jp (imail.sm.sony.co.jp [43.27.209.5]) by smail1.sm.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id LAA10273; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from mach0.sm.sony.co.jp (mach0.sm.sony.co.jp [43.27.210.135]) by imail.sm.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA24249; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by mach0.sm.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id LAA09143; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:14 +0900 (JST) To: agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler In-Reply-To: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:13 +0900 From: Hiroyuki Machida X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, Guido From: Guido Guenther Subject: SIGIO Handler Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:11:36 +0200 > I'm still trying to get the mouse to work under X. The problem seems not > to be related to X itself but to a kernel/glibc problem. X uses a SIGIO > handler to "get notified" about mouse events. I wrote my own small SIGIO > handler(see attached program) which works fine on my intel box but not > on an indy (glibc-2.0.6-3lm/linux-2.2.13-20000211). I had experienced same SIGIO problem. It that time, the definitions of glibc's FASYNC (in fnctbits.h) and kernel's FASYNC (in asm/fcnt..h) were not same. Check those values in your system, first. --- Hiroyuki Machida From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 04:49:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:49:46 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61486 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:49:21 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA07815; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:44:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA41435 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:39:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA72081 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:38:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA00095 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:38:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-13.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-13.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.13]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18628; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:38:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:31:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:31:49 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Hiroyuki Machida Cc: agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp>; from machida@sm.sony.co.jp on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:32:13AM +0900 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:32:13AM +0900, Hiroyuki Machida wrote: > > I'm still trying to get the mouse to work under X. The problem seems not > > to be related to X itself but to a kernel/glibc problem. X uses a SIGIO > > handler to "get notified" about mouse events. I wrote my own small SIGIO > > handler(see attached program) which works fine on my intel box but not > > on an indy (glibc-2.0.6-3lm/linux-2.2.13-20000211). > > I had experienced same SIGIO problem. It that time, the definitions > of glibc's FASYNC (in fnctbits.h) and kernel's FASYNC (in > asm/fcnt..h) were not same. > > Check those values in your system, first. I'll prepare a new glibc 2.0 release with the header file fixed. Glibc 2.2's is ok. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 06:42:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:42:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:37994 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:41:49 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA06721; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:46:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA99236; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA76289 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:30:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA95090 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA09987 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12tsHW-0002bt-00; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:30:06 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 22 May 2000 15:30:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:30:05 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Hiroyuki Machida , Ralf Baechle Cc: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Hiroyuki Machida , Ralf Baechle , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:31:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing As a temporary workaround I changed the definition in asm/fcntl.h and recomiled the kernel, this makes the little test program work. Hope it works for the xserver too... Thanks a lot, -- Guido On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:31:49PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:32:13AM +0900, Hiroyuki Machida wrote: > > > > I'm still trying to get the mouse to work under X. The problem seems not > > > to be related to X itself but to a kernel/glibc problem. X uses a SIGIO > > > handler to "get notified" about mouse events. I wrote my own small SIGIO > > > handler(see attached program) which works fine on my intel box but not > > > on an indy (glibc-2.0.6-3lm/linux-2.2.13-20000211). > > > > I had experienced same SIGIO problem. It that time, the definitions > > of glibc's FASYNC (in fnctbits.h) and kernel's FASYNC (in > > asm/fcnt..h) were not same. > > > > Check those values in your system, first. > > I'll prepare a new glibc 2.0 release with the header file fixed. Glibc 2.2's > is ok. > > Ralf -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 06:45:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:45:27 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:57706 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:45:19 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA06562; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:49:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA03748; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA34912 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA33437 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:37:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA02726 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 06:37:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12tsNw-0002c6-00; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:36:44 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 22 May 2000 15:36:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:36:43 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: LDC- Ioanis Biternas , Ian Chilton Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: X on Indy Message-ID: <20000522153642.A1093@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from ioanis@ldc.usb.ve on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 05:53:25PM +0400 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing an xserver is being worked on, there'll be an announcement on the list when binaries are available. -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 13:11:13 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:54 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:54846 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:27 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA09904; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA88065; 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Mon, 22 May 2000 21:57:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:57:05 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Guido Guenther , Hiroyuki Machida , Ralf Baechle , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 03:30:05PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 03:30:05PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > As a temporary workaround I changed the definition in asm/fcntl.h and > recomiled the kernel, this makes the little test program work. Hope it > works for the xserver too... Ok, but you changed the wrong side, libc's definition is what is broken. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 13:17:13 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:16:53 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:23065 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:16:49 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA00705; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:21:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA95943; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA01697 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:08:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA18283 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA09860 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:08:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12tyUg-0003cm-00; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:08:06 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 22 May 2000 22:07:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:07:55 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000522220754.A12960@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Ralf Baechle , Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:57:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:57:05PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 03:30:05PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > > > As a temporary workaround I changed the definition in asm/fcntl.h and > > recomiled the kernel, this makes the little test program work. Hope it > > works for the xserver too... > > Ok, but you changed the wrong side, libc's definition is what is broken. I know, but kernel recompiling is much quicker and easier for me to do - therefore I stated it as "workaround" above (until you release a new glibc ;) Xserver works now btw, but is incredible slow(will try to play with dma transfers to speed things up). -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 13:21:23 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:21:13 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:19226 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:20:56 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA05630; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:25:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA58173 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA66587 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:14:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA08684 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:14:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18850; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:14:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:13:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:13:41 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Guido Guenther , Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000522221341.C4856@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522220754.A12960@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000522220754.A12960@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:07:55PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:07:55PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > > Ok, but you changed the wrong side, libc's definition is what is broken. > > I know, but kernel recompiling is much quicker and easier for me to do - > therefore I stated it as "workaround" above (until you release a new glibc ;) Is uploading as I write this. > Xserver works now btw, but is incredible slow(will try to play with dma > transfers to speed things up). Excellent. Even if it's slow as molasses, how about making a first release? Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 22 19:21:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:21:36 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:58693 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:21:24 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id TAA07501; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:26:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA62381; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA86481 for linux-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:11:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA05811 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:11:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA06374 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:11:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-18.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.18]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16656; Tue, 23 May 2000 04:11:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 04:11:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 04:11:09 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Guido Guenther , Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000523041109.A8266@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:57:05PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:57:05PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > As a temporary workaround I changed the definition in asm/fcntl.h and > > recomiled the kernel, this makes the little test program work. Hope it > > works for the xserver too... > > Ok, but you changed the wrong side, libc's definition is what is broken. Ok, glibc 2.0.6-5lm can be downloaded from oss.sgi.com, directory /pub/linux/mips/test-glibc. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 23 16:22:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:22:35 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:12853 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:22:29 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA01330; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:27:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA87236 for linux-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:10:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA94152 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:10:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA19696 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <392B0FDD.D1AD619C@engr.sgi.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:10:21 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [Fwd: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Andy Smith ]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Andy Smith ] Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-linux@cthulhu To: owner-linux@cthulhu >From owner-linux Tue May 23 16:08:15 2000 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA73053 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:08:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (abs@ummagumma.in2home.co.uk) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA09201 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:08:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (abs@ummagumma.in2home.co.uk) Received: from maunsl00.demon.co.uk ([158.152.25.159] helo=ummagumma.in2home.co.uk) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12uNmO-0009Cf-0W for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 24 May 2000 00:08:06 +0100 Received: (from abs@localhost) by ummagumma.in2home.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15777 for linux@engr.sgi.com; Wed, 24 May 2000 00:07:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 00:07:21 +0100 From: Andy Smith To: linux@engr.sgi.com Subject: new signon Message-ID: <20000524000721.L15875@ummagumma.in2home.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Meadowlands X-Operating-System: SunOS 5.5.1 sun4c Hi all, I've had an elderly Prime EXL at home for some time doing not very much, which I thought I might have some fun by trying to get some sort of linux os on it. To my understanding the system is pretty much a relabeled Mips RC32x0 and currently has a running RISCos version 4_52. For what it's worth, my box uses a 3030 chip and was codenamed "Pizzaz" (I think). It has an all-in-one motherboard with Lance ethernet, but neither a color nor mono video. SCSI is done with a 53c94 hung off a "RAMBO" DMA controller. /usr/include/sys/cpu_board.h says that the box is AKA an M20. Does anyone know of any resources or information where I could make a start? TIA -- _ __ Siemens Buisiness Services Tel : +44 2087 603495 /_| _/ ( _ '_// 4th Floor, C Block, Mob : +44 7808 824595 ( |/)(/(/ __)//)/ //) Whitgift Centre, Croydon Email: a.b.smith@bigfoot.com / Surrey CR9 3LY England. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 01:45:00 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:44:50 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:41043 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:44:43 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA09117; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:49:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA48726 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:36:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA04454 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:36:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (a.b.smith@bigfoot.com) Received: from www.twigger.co.uk (233-189-212-7.unused.vuurwerk.nl [212.189.233.7] (may be forged)) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA02623 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:36:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (a.b.smith@bigfoot.com) X-WebMail-UserID: i2h64503-001@in2home.net Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:36:43 +0100 From: Andy Smith To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002407 Subject: new signon Message-ID: <392B93A8@www.twigger.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51.06 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi all, I've had an elderly Prime EXL at home for some time doing not very much, which I thought I might have some fun by trying to get some sort of linux os on it. To my understanding the system is pretty much a relabeled Mips RC32x0 and currently has a running RISCos version 4_52. For what it's worth, my box uses a 3030 chip and was codenamed "Pizzaz" (I think). It has an all-in-one motherboard with Lance ethernet, but neither a color nor mono video. SCSI is done with a 53c94 hung off a "RAMBO" DMA controller. /usr/include/sys/cpu_board.h says that the box is AKA an M20. Does anyone know of any resources or information where I could make a start? TIA __ Andy From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 03:09:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:09:01 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:34661 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:08:50 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA07437; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:03:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA16847 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 02:59:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA14696 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 02:59:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA08662 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 02:59:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12uXwO-0007Ww-00; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:59:04 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 May 2000 11:57:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:57:54 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Guido Guenther , Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: SIGIO Handler Message-ID: <20000524115754.A3614@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Ralf Baechle , Hiroyuki Machida , linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000518161135.A26055@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522113213A.machida@sm.sony.co.jp> <20000522133149.A4036@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522153004.A173@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522215705.B4856@uni-koblenz.de> <20000522220754.A12960@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> <20000522221341.C4856@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000522221341.C4856@uni-koblenz.de>; from ralf@oss.sgi.com on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:13:41PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:13:41PM +0200, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:07:55PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > > > > Ok, but you changed the wrong side, libc's definition is what is broken. > > > > I know, but kernel recompiling is much quicker and easier for me to do - > > therefore I stated it as "workaround" above (until you release a new glibc ;) > > Is uploading as I write this. > > > Xserver works now btw, but is incredible slow(will try to play with dma > > transfers to speed things up). > > Excellent. Even if it's slow as molasses, how about making a first release? I've stitched together some binaries which are completely untested due to time constraints. They can be found at: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/mipslinux/x/binaries Note that the driver code is really messy, has still a problem with the colormap in PseudoColor visual and has never been tested on the 24bit newport since I don't have such a card(exactly speaking I don't even have an Indy but that's another story ;). I hope I'll find the time to clean up and test a bit of the code near the weekend. Regards, -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 03:29:12 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:29:02 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:21081 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:28:50 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA06650; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:33:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA83793; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA36745 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:19:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA78500 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:19:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gw@sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si) Received: from sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si (sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si [194.249.197.119]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA08561 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:18:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (gw@sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si) Received: from localhost (gw@localhost) by sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07780 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:31:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:31:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mitja Bezget Reply-To: Mitja Bezget To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: newport driver for XFree Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-104661563-546218378-959164244=:6454" Content-ID: Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---104661563-546218378-959164244=:6454 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: hi! I'm having problems running xfree on an old Indy so i tought i should report&ask for help.. First I applyed the patch (is it recent??): # tar -xzvf X400src.tgz # cd xc # patch -p0 ) i changed MDA to NEWPORT and it compiled ok! and i was happy! But now it just wont run.. error message is attached.. I think it has something to do with socketbits.h and declaration of enum __socket_type.. Namely i added this enum because i couldn't find #define for socket types in any of system installed header files.. (The very first reason server didn't compile) i'm running glibc-2.0.6-4 (+devel) and egcs-1.0.2-9.. Thank you! cya Mitja ps. for Guido (or who coded that part): i went thru newport_regs.h and i noticed your comment in line 153 /* This causes a warning. 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I downloaded the binarys and installed successfuly.. But the server still wouldn't run.. it displays a senseless message: Couldn't open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" although it is run as root and the directory exists. any ideas? thanks! cya Mitja From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 04:52:13 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:52:03 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:23670 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:51:45 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA14351; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:46:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id EAA59853 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:44:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id EAA17197 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:44:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id EAA00527 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:44:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12uZag-0007pq-00; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:44:46 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 May 2000 13:43:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:42:15 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Mitja Bezget Subject: Re: newport driver for XFree Message-ID: <20000524134215.A3748@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from gw@sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:31:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:31:49PM +0200, Mitja Bezget wrote: > hi! > > I'm having problems running xfree on an old Indy > so i tought i should report&ask for help.. > > First I applyed the patch (is it recent??): There's a newer patch available on that site but this one should work also. > > # tar -xzvf X400src.tgz > # cd xc > # patch -p0 (files are from a webpage previously posted) > > and it didn't create drivers/newport/ directory.. (it exited > cleanly!) > should i have done something else before that? > Anyway.. i created the missing files by hand.. > afterwards it failed again while making World > > newport.c:136: `MGA' undeclared (first use of this function) This comes from the NewPortSetup function which should only be compiled if the server supports loadable modules. We currently don't do this on mips. Add a "#define DoLoadableServer NO" to your host.def and recompile. This will probably also fix the problem below: > newport.c:774: `caddr_t' undeclared (first use of this function) > + some other errors originating from here.. > > i fixed the caddr_t (missing #include ) > i changed MDA to NEWPORT and it compiled ok! and i was happy! > > But now it just wont run.. error message is attached.. > I think it has something to do with socketbits.h and declaration > of enum __socket_type.. Namely i added this enum because i couldn't > find #define for socket types in any of system installed header > files.. (The very first reason server didn't compile) Why did the compile break? > > i'm running glibc-2.0.6-4 (+devel) and egcs-1.0.2-9.. > > Thank you! > > cya > Mitja > > ps. for Guido (or who coded that part): > i went thru newport_regs.h and i noticed your comment in line 153 > /* This causes a warning. Why??? */ > I believe it was just a simple innocent typo.. you pressed > the semi-colon twice. ;)) I'm aware of that. It's just a reminder for me to check the c-specs why a "useless" semicolon causes a compiler warning at all. [..snip..] -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 06:44:53 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:44:43 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:6415 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:44:34 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA24100; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:39:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA68190 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:36:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA27995 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:36:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA03185 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:36:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12ubKM-0008Lb-00; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:36:02 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 May 2000 15:34:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:34:45 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Mitja Bezget Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: newport driver for XFree Message-ID: <20000524153444.A3802@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Mitja Bezget , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000524134215.A3748@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000524134215.A3748@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:42:15PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:42:15PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:31:49PM +0200, Mitja Bezget wrote: > > hi! > > > > I'm having problems running xfree on an old Indy > > so i tought i should report&ask for help.. > > > > First I applyed the patch (is it recent??): > There's a newer patch available on that site but this one should work > also. I checked the patch and 000514 doesn't create the correct host.def, I messed up some filenames. Fetch instead: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/mipslinux/x/source/newport_000524.diff then: tar zxvf X400src-1.tgz patch -p1 < newport_000524.diff [..snip..] > > i'm running glibc-2.0.6-4 (+devel) and egcs-1.0.2-9.. I had numerous problems with egcs 1.0.2. I'd recommend to use egcs 1.0.3. -- Guido [..snip..] -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 06:49:13 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:49:03 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:46351 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:48:57 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA24439; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:44:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA27276 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:41:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA86682 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:40:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA05578 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:40:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12ubP9-0008MU-00; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:40:59 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 May 2000 15:39:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:39:43 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Mitja Bezget Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Binary XFree Message-ID: <20000524153943.B3802@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Mitja Bezget , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from gw@sers.s-sers.mb.edus.si on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:19:45PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing No problem here. Should be a problem with you local setup. Can you "touch /var/log/XFree86.0.log" as root? -- Guido On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:19:45PM +0200, Mitja Bezget wrote: > > Hey! > > I downloaded the binarys and installed successfuly.. But the > server still wouldn't run.. it displays a senseless message: > Couldn't open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" > > although it is run as root and the directory exists. > any ideas? thanks! > > cya > Mitja > > > -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 10:06:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:06:45 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:32842 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:06:25 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA21797; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA49020; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA24354 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:50:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA94838 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA03402 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port9.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.9]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03154; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:50:28 +0200 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000524012413.A5507@spock> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Harald Koerfgen Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: Klaus Naumann Subject: RE: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Cc: Linux MIPS , SGI Linux Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 23-May-00 Klaus Naumann wrote: [offset.h problems with my recent CVS changes snipped] > Well, unfortunately this doesn't fix the problem. > At least not for me. I get the same error I > stated a mail ago - offset.h is generated after > the use in main.c . Ok, trying to fix that I added a fastdep rule to arch/mips/tools/Makefile only to find myself in a catch 22 situation. offset.c includes asm/ptrace.h which, in turn, includes asm/offset.h, i.e. you have to have offset.h to create offset.h :-o Without heavily messing around with several header files, which may have an impact on non-MIPS platforms as well, I see no easy solution for that. Adding an empty offset.h, on the other hand, and leaving the .cvsignore in place should at least partially do what I want. Any objections? And now for something completly different. Why the hell did I mess around with that? Well, if something in the kernel is changed which affects offset.h then generating a diff against a fresh CVS copy will contain those differences. That annoyed me because, personally, I find this disturbing when reviewing those diffs. Nobody really needs that anyway, at least that's what I thought, because offset.h is generated automatically. The suggestion I made above would not solve that but at least avoids that those changes creep into the CVS. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 10:44:15 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:44:05 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:1148 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:43:38 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA08165; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:48:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA10206 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA79231 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:29:51 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from staff.cerf.net (staff.cerf.net [198.137.140.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA02620 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:29:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from sdhqdt0132 (dhcp684.hq.sd.cerf.net [192.215.14.84]) by staff.cerf.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4OHTT517453; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:29:29 GMT From: "Eric Watkins" To: "Keith M Wesolowski" , Subject: RE: New mini-distribution/indigo2 monitor support Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:29:26 -0700 Message-ID: <003001bfc5a5$9be16960$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Filtered-By: VBFilter 1.0 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I noticed in your instructions that you suggest removing the framebuffer from the video card so the distribution will boot? QUOTE: "Note: If your system has an XZ framebuffer in it, you must remove it prior to booting and use a serial console instead. The XZ framebuffer will likely prevent your system from booting Linux even if you are not using it. " Are you suggesting that I remove the vid card? I'm trying to get my indigo2 to boot linux. Can you go into more detail on how to remove the framebuffer? For the rest of the list.. When will I be able to use these monitors? The monitor is almost the best part of the whole system. I've got PCs that will run rings around the indigo2 that don't have 21 inch monitors. It's not good to tell people 'Oh ya linux boots on that but then I have to use this dumb terminal to do anything.' At this point people start to laugh. When can I see X in all of it's glory on an indigo2? Thanks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > [mailto:owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com]On Behalf Of Keith M Wesolowski > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:45 PM > To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > Subject: New mini-distribution > > > Hi all, > > I got bored last week and put together a new mini-distribution for > SGIs. I know it works on Indigo2 at least. It's a lot smaller and has > some more up to date components than Hard Hat. Perhaps it would be a > good starting point for someone to use, or maybe it will be of no use > to anyone but me. :) Those interested can read a quick HOWTO at > http://foobazco.org/~wesolows/Install-HOWTO.html; the necessary files > are at ftp://ftp.foobazco.org/pub/people/wesolows/mips-linux/. > > Quick rundown: > > Kernel 2.2.14 from CVS > glibc 2.0.6 with patches > egcs 1.1.2 with patches > binutils 000425 with patches > bash 2.04 > vim 5.6 > barebones initscripts > miscellaneous useful software > NFS-based installation > > Plans: > > Not much. I will probably try to get gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2 working > with it, those being the least up to date parts of it all. I don't > really think this is going anywhere; Debian will hopefully be finished > soon. > > -- > Keith M Wesolowski wesolows@chem.unr.edu > University of Nevada http://www.chem.unr.edu > Chemistry Department Systems and Network Administrator > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 11:55:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:54:44 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:61192 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:54:16 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA09360; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:58:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA35222 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:43:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from virgil.engr.sgi.com (virgil.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.20]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA60092 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:43:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (bigham@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from engr.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virgil.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA23127 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <392C22D6.E4D56B4D@engr.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:43:34 -0700 From: Nancy Bigham Organization: Linux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: [Fwd: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE linux@relay.engr.sgi.com: Non-member submission from [Jun Sun ] Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-linux@cthulhu To: owner-linux@cthulhu >From owner-linux Tue May 23 16:48:50 2000 Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA62223 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:48:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsun@mvista.com) Received: from hermes.mvista.com (gateway.mvista.com [63.192.220.206]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA04698 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:48:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsun@mvista.com) Received: from mvista.com (IDENT:jsun@orion.mvista.com [10.0.0.75]) by hermes.mvista.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03052; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:48:38 -0700 Sender: jsun@hermes.mvista.com Message-ID: <392B18D6.F4B11BED@mvista.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:48:38 -0700 From: Jun Sun X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20b i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: gdbserver for MIPS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------732E7D3674406CC64CF16CED" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------732E7D3674406CC64CF16CED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I finally got gdbserver working on MIPS. Who should I submit the patches to? There are three patches/changes made : 1. in kernel, arch/mips/ptrace.c - I did not generate patch file as my kernel version is probably outdated. Basically if CONFIG_CPU_NO_FPU is defined, return -1 for reading FPC_EIR register, instead of actually reading the hardware. 2. a patch for gdbserver - see attached gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver.patch 3. I need an additional patch for my particular board to work. I am not sure if they are generically applicable. This patch overcomes a VERY SLOW getprotobyname() problem and sending a virtual FP register value problem. See the second attached file. There is still one annoyance - stepping through a glibc function would generate a unknown address warning. Other than that, everything seems to work fine - with my limited tests, that it. Jun --------------732E7D3674406CC64CF16CED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver.patch" --- gdb-4.17/gdb/config/mips/mipsel-linux.mh.orig Mon May 22 18:39:07 2000 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/config/mips/mipsel-linux.mh Mon May 22 18:39:07 2000 @@ -3,6 +3,8 @@ XM_FILE= xm-llinux.h NAT_FILE= nm-linux.h NATDEPFILES= infptrace.o inftarg.o mipslinux-nat.o corelow.o core-regset.o fork-child.o solib.o +GDBSERVER_DEPFILES= low-linux.o +GDBSERVER_LIBS= MMALLOC = MMALLOC_CFLAGS = -DNO_MMALLOC --- gdb-4.17/gdb/config/mips/xm-llinux.h.orig Mon May 22 18:39:07 2000 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/config/mips/xm-llinux.h Mon May 22 18:41:36 2000 @@ -31,3 +31,6 @@ #define HAVE_TERMIOS #define HAVE_SIGSETMASK 1 #define USG + +#define REGISTER_U_ADDR(addr, blockend, regno) \ + addr = regno --- gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/utils.c.orig Fri Aug 8 21:49:48 1997 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/utils.c Mon May 22 18:39:07 2000 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ char *string; { extern int sys_nerr; - extern char *sys_errlist[]; + extern const char * const sys_errlist[]; extern int errno; char *err; char *combined; --- gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/low-linux.c.orig Fri Oct 11 12:26:04 1996 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/low-linux.c Mon May 22 18:44:37 2000 @@ -44,11 +44,17 @@ char buf2[MAX_REGISTER_RAW_SIZE]; /***************End MY defs*********************/ -#include +#include #if 0 +#include #include #endif +/* [jsun] if NUM_FREGS is not defined, it probably should be 0 */ +#if !defined(NUM_FREGS) +#define NUM_FREGS 0 +#endif + extern char **environ; extern int errno; extern int inferior_pid; @@ -72,7 +78,7 @@ if (pid == 0) { - ptrace (PTRACE_TRACEME, 0, 0, 0); + ptrace (PTRACE_TRACEME, 0, 0, 0); execv (program, allargs); @@ -165,6 +171,7 @@ - KERNEL_U_ADDR #endif +#if defined(__i386) /* this table must line up with REGISTER_NAMES in tm-i386v.h */ /* symbols like 'EAX' come from */ static int regmap[] = @@ -198,6 +205,8 @@ return (blockend + 4 * regmap[regnum]); } +#endif /* defined(__i386) */ + CORE_ADDR register_addr (regno, blockend) @@ -215,7 +224,6 @@ } /* Fetch one register. */ - static void fetch_register (regno) int regno; @@ -257,7 +265,7 @@ { if (regno == -1 || regno == 0) for (regno = 0; regno < NUM_REGS-NUM_FREGS; regno++) - fetch_register (regno); + fetch_register (regno); else fetch_register (regno); } --- gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/gdbreplay.c.orig Fri Oct 11 12:26:03 1996 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/gdbreplay.c Mon May 22 18:39:07 2000 @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ char *string; { extern int sys_nerr; - extern char *sys_errlist[]; + extern const char *const sys_errlist[]; extern int errno; char *err; char *combined; --------------732E7D3674406CC64CF16CED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver-hhl.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver-hhl.patch" --- gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/remote-utils.c.orig Tue Mar 11 07:49:17 1997 +++ gdb-4.17/gdb/gdbserver/remote-utils.c Tue May 23 11:12:12 2000 @@ -127,9 +127,12 @@ if (remote_desc == -1) perror_with_name ("Accept failed"); +/* [jsun] getprotobyname() hangs on mips - we just use number 6 directly */ +/* protoent = getprotobyname ("tcp"); if (!protoent) perror_with_name ("getprotobyname"); + */ /* Enable TCP keep alive process. */ tmp = 1; @@ -138,7 +141,10 @@ /* Tell TCP not to delay small packets. This greatly speeds up interactive response. */ tmp = 1; +/* setsockopt (remote_desc, protoent->p_proto, TCP_NODELAY, + */ + setsockopt (remote_desc, 6, TCP_NODELAY, (char *)&tmp, sizeof(tmp)); close (tmp_desc); /* No longer need this */ @@ -447,7 +453,8 @@ if (status == 'T') { buf = outreg (PC_REGNUM, buf); - buf = outreg (FP_REGNUM, buf); + /* [jsun] this causes client to complain */ + /* buf = outreg (FP_REGNUM, buf); */ buf = outreg (SP_REGNUM, buf); #ifdef NPC_REGNUM buf = outreg (NPC_REGNUM, buf); --------------732E7D3674406CC64CF16CED-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 12:23:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:22:55 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:64372 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:22:31 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id MAA11669; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA27754 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA31675 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:12:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: from rotor.chem.unr.edu (rotor.chem.unr.edu [134.197.32.176]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id MAA08632 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:12:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: (from wesolows@localhost) by rotor.chem.unr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17493; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:11:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:11:59 -0700 From: Keith M Wesolowski To: Eric Watkins Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New mini-distribution/indigo2 monitor support Message-ID: <20000524121159.A17430@chem.unr.edu> References: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu> <003001bfc5a5$9be16960$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003001bfc5a5$9be16960$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net>; from watkinse@attens.com on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:29:26AM -0700 X-Complaints-To: postmaster@chem.unr.edu Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:29:26AM -0700, Eric Watkins wrote: > Are you suggesting that I remove the vid card? Yes. I needed to and it's mentioned at http://reality.sgi.com/raju/SGI-Linux-mini-HOWTO.html. > I'm trying to get my indigo2 to boot linux. Can you go into more detail on > how to remove the framebuffer? Pop the cover off and hinge the left rear panel to the left. Unscrew the two graphics boards from the case (just like peecee boards) and take the thing out. > When can I see X in all of it's glory on an indigo2? Guido just got X on XL working. No idea what the timetable for XZ might be. -- Keith M Wesolowski wesolows@chem.unr.edu University of Nevada http://www.chem.unr.edu Chemistry Department Systems and Network Administrator From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 12:45:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:45:18 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:13845 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:44:57 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA23448; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:40:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA26193 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA63405 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA04458 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:34:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id QAA06298 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:37 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id QAA23924 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:36 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id QAA60628; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:36 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14636.15579.327225.215562@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:35 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: cross Mips64-linux binutils problem X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I hope this isn't a repeat but the archive has been down for a few days: http://www.linux.sgi.com/mips/archive/ I'm using binutils-19990825 patched with binutils-19991011.diff They were obtained from: ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/crossdev/src/mips64/ Are these the latest? If so please read on.. I have built them for cross-compiling on AIX. Here is the configure invocation: ./configure --host=powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.2.0 --target=mips64-unknown-linux-gnu All built and installed fine, however the linker halts using the .o's because on an unknoen relocation. The following assembler: .text .align 4 .ent _start , 0 .globl _start _start: dla $sp, kernelInfoLocal ld $sp, 0($sp) daddu $sp, $sp, 0x6000 dla $25, crtInit j $25 # NOTREACHED j ra .end _start on irix: $ as -version MIPSpro Compilers: Version 7.2.1 $ as -64 -non_shared -mips3 crt0s.s -o crt0s.o on aix: $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump -r crt0s.o crt0s.o: file format elf64-bigmips ... successfully dumps the relocation information. if I compiler the same file in aix: $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-as -64 -mips3 -non_shared crt0s.s -o crt0s.o $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump -r crt0s.o crt0s.o: file format elf64-bigmips mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump: crt0s.o: File in wrong format RELOCATION RECORDS FOR [.text]: -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 13:57:45 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:57:25 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:14389 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:56:57 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA05426; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:01:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA25357; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA49215 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:40 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA67440 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id OAA07567 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.8]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17577; Wed, 24 May 2000 23:40:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:27:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 03:27:16 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Jun Sun Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr Subject: Re: gdbserver for MIPS Message-ID: <20000524032716.A4258@uni-koblenz.de> References: <392B18D6.F4B11BED@mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <392B18D6.F4B11BED@mvista.com>; from jsun@mvista.com on Tue, May 23, 2000 at 04:48:38PM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 04:48:38PM -0700, Jun Sun wrote: > I finally got gdbserver working on MIPS. Who should I submit the > patches to? For the moment to me, I'll pu them into our sources. > There are three patches/changes made : > > 1. in kernel, arch/mips/ptrace.c - I did not generate patch file as my > kernel version is probably outdated. Basically if CONFIG_CPU_NO_FPU is > defined, return -1 for reading FPC_EIR register, instead of actually > reading the hardware. > > 2. a patch for gdbserver - see attached gdb-4.17-mips-gdbserver.patch > > 3. I need an additional patch for my particular board to work. I am not > sure if they are generically applicable. This patch overcomes a VERY > SLOW getprotobyname() problem and sending a virtual FP register value > problem. See the second attached file. Getprotobyname - please check the settings the protocols database in /etc/nsswitch.conf. > There is still one annoyance - stepping through a glibc function would > generate a unknown address warning. Other than that, everything seems > to work fine - with my limited tests, that it. I've seen those warning but don't know the cause. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 16:08:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:08:17 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33343 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:08:02 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA06631; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:12:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA96069 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:53:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA31804; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9621A78D7; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cross Mips64-linux binutils problem In-Reply-To: <14636.15579.327225.215562@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > I'm using binutils-19990825 patched with binutils-19991011.diff I have used that patch together with the binutils CVS from 19991011 and that worked for me. At least for building 32-bit kernel. > They were obtained from: > ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/crossdev/src/mips64/ > > Are these the latest? If so please read on.. You could try my superpatch that I have on oss.sgi.com. It's a newer than Ralf's patch that you have: ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/src/binutils/binutils-000424.diff.gz It's against the official binutils CVS for the same day. > I have built them for cross-compiling on AIX. > Here is the configure invocation: > ./configure --host=powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.2.0 --target=mips64-unknown-linux-gnu > > All built and installed fine, however the linker halts using the .o's > because on an unknoen relocation. > > > The following assembler: > .text > .align 4 > .ent _start , 0 > .globl _start > _start: > dla $sp, kernelInfoLocal > ld $sp, 0($sp) > daddu $sp, $sp, 0x6000 > dla $25, crtInit > j $25 > # NOTREACHED > j ra > .end _start > > on irix: > $ as -version > MIPSpro Compilers: Version 7.2.1 > > $ as -64 -non_shared -mips3 crt0s.s -o crt0s.o > > on aix: > $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump -r crt0s.o > > crt0s.o: file format elf64-bigmips > ... > successfully dumps the relocation information. > > if I compiler the same file in aix: > $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-as -64 -mips3 -non_shared crt0s.s -o crt0s.o > $ mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump -r crt0s.o > > crt0s.o: file format elf64-bigmips > > mips64-unknown-linux-gnu-objdump: crt0s.o: File in wrong format > RELOCATION RECORDS FOR [.text]: The relocation format for mips64 is very different, and they aren't handled correctly in this version of binutils. I think my later patch fixes this. By the way, compiling 64-bit PIC code using gas is not recommended (yet). Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 16:08:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:08:17 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:28223 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:07:59 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA00818; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:12:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA62504 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:59:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA35630 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:59:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA07315 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:59:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.8]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27699; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:59:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:58:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 01:58:43 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Harald Koerfgen Cc: Klaus Naumann , Linux MIPS , SGI Linux Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Message-ID: <20000525015843.A7991@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000524012413.A5507@spock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 06:50:09PM +0200 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 06:50:09PM +0200, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > Ok, trying to fix that I added a fastdep rule to arch/mips/tools/Makefile only to > find myself in a catch 22 situation. offset.c includes asm/ptrace.h which, in > turn, includes asm/offset.h, i.e. you have to have offset.h to create offset.h :-o > > Without heavily messing around with several header files, which may have an > impact on non-MIPS platforms as well, I see no easy solution for that. Adding an > empty offset.h, on the other hand, and leaving the .cvsignore in place should at > least partially do what I want. Any objections? > > And now for something completly different. Why the hell did I mess around with > that? > > Well, if something in the kernel is changed which affects offset.h then > generating a diff against a fresh CVS copy will contain those differences. That > annoyed me because, personally, I find this disturbing when reviewing those diffs. > Nobody really needs that anyway, at least that's what I thought, because offset.h > is generated automatically. > > The suggestion I made above would not solve that but at least avoids that those > changes creep into the CVS. A good solution is important now that we have SMP. Toggling CONFIG_SMP affects offset.h and not for all variations of make invocations we actually have the guarantee that offset.h is being rebuilt before using it. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 16:51:37 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:51:27 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:37979 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:51:08 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA24308; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:46:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA53751 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:38:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA85173 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:38:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA03028 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:38:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-8.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.8]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29849; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:02 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Keith M Wesolowski Cc: Eric Watkins , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New mini-distribution/indigo2 monitor support Message-ID: <20000525023802.A8339@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000519154511.B21086@chem.unr.edu> <003001bfc5a5$9be16960$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> <20000524121159.A17430@chem.unr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000524121159.A17430@chem.unr.edu>; from wesolows@chem.unr.edu on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:11:59PM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:11:59PM -0700, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > Guido just got X on XL working. No idea what the timetable for XZ > might be. Don't hold your breath, the XZ is a completly different animal than the XL. It's complexity will prevent a quick success. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 24 17:33:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:33:48 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:64613 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:33:41 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA28544; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:28:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA40862; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA33250 for linux-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:24:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA46132 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) From: nick@ns.snowman.net Received: from ns.snowman.net (ns.snowman.net [63.80.4.34]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA06079 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:24:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by ns.snowman.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA20672 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 21:29:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:29:36 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: New indy problems In-Reply-To: <20000525023802.A8339@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi, is there any way for me to reset the root password on an indy? I bought an indy cheap from a liquidator, and have no way to get the root password. I can probably set it up, and then rsh into it from a "trusted host" (I own the network it's now on, and I could cat it's /.rhosts), but that would take alot of effort. All I need is to make one little change to the FS from SASH or bootprom. Thanks Nick From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 00:38:29 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 00:38:09 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:15958 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 00:37:45 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA08678; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:42:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA36763 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA00116 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:28:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id BAA05637 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:27:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12uszd-00021x-00; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:49 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:48 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: Mitja Bezget , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Binary XFree Message-ID: <20000525102748.A401@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , Mitja Bezget , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <20000524153943.B3802@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000524153943.B3802@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de>; from agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:39:43PM +0200 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I finally found the time to check the binaries. I screwed the permissions. Changing to /usr/X11R6 and "chown -R root. *" should solve the problem. You also have to set the XFree86 suid root. -- Guido On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:39:43PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > No problem here. Should be a problem with you local setup. Can you > "touch /var/log/XFree86.0.log" as root? > -- Guido > > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:19:45PM +0200, Mitja Bezget wrote: > > > > Hey! > > > > I downloaded the binarys and installed successfuly.. But the > > server still wouldn't run.. it displays a senseless message: > > Couldn't open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" > > > > although it is run as root and the directory exists. > > any ideas? thanks! > > > > cya > > Mitja > > > > > > > > -- > GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 01:48:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:48:39 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:36953 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:48:17 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA09724; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:52:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA93634 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA63110 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA09021 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:38:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5A0AC7D9; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:38:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E9858FA7; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:25:27 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: nick@ns.snowman.net Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New indy problems Message-ID: <20000525102527.A4082@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000525023802.A8339@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from nick@ns.snowman.net on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 09:29:36PM -0400 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 09:29:36PM -0400, nick@ns.snowman.net wrote: > > Hi, is there any way for me to reset the root password on an indy? I > bought an indy cheap from a liquidator, and have no way to get the root > password. I can probably set it up, and then rsh into it from a "trusted > host" (I own the network it's now on, and I could cat it's /.rhosts), but > that would take alot of effort. All I need is to make one little change > to the FS from SASH or bootprom. The indigo2 has a jumper onboard to "erase" the nvram setting (I multiple times accidently changes the console setting) Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-subject-2-change "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 03:01:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:01:10 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33884 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:00:50 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA02973; Thu, 25 May 2000 04:05:30 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA53355 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgoslo.oslo.sgi.com (sgoslo.oslo.sgi.com [144.253.213.2]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA57416 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:52:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (dagb@oslo.sgi.com) Received: from dagb.oslo.sgi.com (dagb.oslo.sgi.com [144.253.213.35]) by sgoslo.oslo.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/19990607.SGI.AUTOCF.hoststrip-1.1) via ESMTP id MAA57238; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:52:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from dagb@localhost) by dagb.oslo.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA01370; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:52:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:52:21 +0200 (CEST) From: dagb@oslo.sgi.com (Dag Bakke) Message-Id: <10005251252.ZM1368@dagb.oslo.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: Florian Lohoff "Re: New indy problems" (May 25, 10:25) References: <20000525023802.A8339@uni-koblenz.de> <20000525102527.A4082@paradigm.rfc822.org> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Florian Lohoff , nick@ns.snowman.net Subject: Re: New indy problems Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On May 25, 10:25, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Subject: Re: New indy problems > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 09:29:36PM -0400, nick@ns.snowman.net wrote: > > > > Hi, is there any way for me to reset the root password on an indy? I > > bought an indy cheap from a liquidator, and have no way to get the root > > password. I can probably set it up, and then rsh into it from a "trusted > > host" (I own the network it's now on, and I could cat it's /.rhosts), but > > that would take alot of effort. All I need is to make one little change > > to the FS from SASH or bootprom. > > The indigo2 has a jumper onboard to "erase" the nvram setting (I multiple > times accidently changes the console setting) The nvram pw is unrelated to the root pw on the systemdisk. (Which I am sure you are aware of. :-) This question is a FAQ and not even related to Linux. You really should read the SGI FAQs. The fix is to boot miniroot from network or a CD. Then enter a shell by typing 'shroot' at the Inst> prompt. From here you can edit the passwd file. Dag B From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 07:14:15 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:14:06 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:53256 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:13:49 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA06829; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA37668 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA31264; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:59:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA07072; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id KAA12000; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:38 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id KAA22998; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:37 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id KAA44418; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:37 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14637.16344.751320.262100@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cross Mips64-linux binutils problem In-Reply-To: References: <14636.15579.327225.215562@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >>>>> "UC" == Ulf Carlsson writes: >> I'm using binutils-19990825 patched with binutils-19991011.diff UC> I have used that patch together with the binutils CVS from UC> 19991011 and that worked for me. At least for building 32-bit UC> kernel. Well, I'm only interested in 64-bit static only. I'm not ready for shared yet either. >> They were obtained from: >> ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/crossdev/src/mips64/ >> >> Are these the latest? If so please read on.. UC> You could try my superpatch that I have on oss.sgi.com. It's a UC> newer than Ralf's patch that you have: UC> UC> ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/src/binutils/binutils-000424.diff.gz thanks I will try and let you know. BTW: what are your people using to build the mip64 linux kernel changes that went in a few months ago? -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 08:07:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:07:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:49013 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:06:48 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA09563; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA69754 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA60416 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA01962 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:57:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (flo@rfc822.org) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id CB33B7F3; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by paradigm.rfc822.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F35E8FA7; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:53:54 +0200 From: Florian Lohoff To: Dag Bakke Cc: nick@ns.snowman.net, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New indy problems Message-ID: <20000525175354.D4082@paradigm.rfc822.org> References: <20000525023802.A8339@uni-koblenz.de> <20000525102527.A4082@paradigm.rfc822.org> <10005251252.ZM1368@dagb.oslo.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <10005251252.ZM1368@dagb.oslo.sgi.com>; from dagb@oslo.sgi.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:52:21PM +0200 Organization: rfc822 - pure communication Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:52:21PM +0200, Dag Bakke wrote: > > The indigo2 has a jumper onboard to "erase" the nvram setting (I multiple > > times accidently changes the console setting) > > The nvram pw is unrelated to the root pw on the systemdisk. (Which I am sure > you are aware of. :-) If running linux you will reinstall anyway - So why do you care on the IRIX rootpw ? Flo -- Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-waiting-4-telekom "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 08:13:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:12:56 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:15990 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:12:51 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA03257; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:17:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA88448; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA39966 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA45053 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:04:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (philippe.chauvat@exfo.com) Received: from mail.exfo.com (mail.exfo.com [206.191.88.36]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA08500 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (philippe.chauvat@exfo.com) Received: from exfo.com ([172.16.46.216]) by mail.exfo.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 387 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: <392D4F76.9B06C235@exfo.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:06:14 -0400 From: "Philippe Chauvat" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Mips Subject: [DHCP] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------86B0C68B22FD5EA19F23FF31" Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------86B0C68B22FD5EA19F23FF31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm trying to install Linux on an Indy Box. I need some help to boot from my Indy with bootp protocols. My configuration is: one Indy with Irix 6.2, nfs, dhcp and tftp server (I would like !) ---> named _cream_ IP=192.0.2.2 one Indy with Irix 5.2 ----> named _pancake_ IP=192.0.2.3 one PC box with Mandrake 6.0 nfs, dhcp and tftp server ----> named _pie_ IP=192.0.2.1 one HUB to connect everybody I followed instructions from different HowTo's but... 1/When I use _cream_ as dhcp server (/usr/sbin/dhcpd -f -d) and try to boot _pancake_ I receive a message something like BOOT... (not RFC1048) and then my _pancake_ does not boot. 2/ If I try to use _cream_ as dhcp server nothing appears So, I would like to ask a lot of things! -- can I use bootp from _pancake_ to boot on _cream_ or _pie_ ? -- how can I see some information about bootp connection on _cream_ from _pancake_ ? Thanks a lot for your help. Philippe P.S. _cream_, _pancake_ and _pie_ names are only as example. --------------86B0C68B22FD5EA19F23FF31 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="philippe.chauvat.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Philippe Chauvat Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="philippe.chauvat.vcf" begin:vcard n:Chauvat;Philippe tel;work:+1 (418) 683 0913 #3663 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.exfo.com org:Exfo O.E. inc. adr:;;465 Avenue Godin;Vanier;Quebec;G1M 3G7;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:philippe.chauvat@exfo.com title:Manager, Web Tools Deployment fn:Philippe Chauvat end:vcard --------------86B0C68B22FD5EA19F23FF31-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 08:24:56 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:24:46 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:59428 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:24:14 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA17550; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:19:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA67347 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA62093 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) From: nick@ns.snowman.net Received: from ns.snowman.net (ns.snowman.net [63.80.4.34]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA00463 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:17:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (nick@ns.snowman.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by ns.snowman.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA25231; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:33:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:33:49 -0400 (EDT) To: Florian Lohoff cc: Dag Bakke , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: New indy problems In-Reply-To: <20000525175354.D4082@paradigm.rfc822.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I'd prefer to try both, and I don't have irix media. Nick On Thu, 25 May 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:52:21PM +0200, Dag Bakke wrote: > > > The indigo2 has a jumper onboard to "erase" the nvram setting (I multiple > > > times accidently changes the console setting) > > > > The nvram pw is unrelated to the root pw on the systemdisk. (Which I am sure > > you are aware of. :-) > > If running linux you will reinstall anyway - So why do you care on the > IRIX rootpw ? > > Flo > -- > Florian Lohoff flo@rfc822.org +49-waiting-4-telekom > "Technology is a constant battle between manufacturers producing bigger and > more idiot-proof systems and nature producing bigger and better idiots." > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 08:35:36 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:35:16 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:61994 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:35:02 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA19188; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:30:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA53640 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA38856 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from staff.cerf.net (staff.cerf.net [198.137.140.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA05154 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from sdhqdt0132 (dhcp684.hq.sd.cerf.net [192.215.14.84]) by staff.cerf.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PGQc514749; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:26:38 GMT From: "Eric Watkins" To: "Philippe Chauvat" , "Linux Mips" Subject: RE: [DHCP] Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:26:35 -0700 Message-ID: <001801bfc665$feabed20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <392D4F76.9B06C235@exfo.com> Importance: Normal X-Filtered-By: VBFilter 1.0 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I had lots of issues getting the ISC.org dhcpd to work properly. I switched to the standard bootpd(slackware) daemon and things worked fine. I think this may be just how I have the isc.org dhcpd.conf setup but the bootpd daemon worked just fine out of the box. Either the isc.org dhcpd sends things the SGIs aren't prepared to get or it just not implementing bootpd the right way. I think it's just a config issue but I've yet to get things right with the dhcpd.conf. You'll notice there are 4 get requests in the log files before the SGI times out. There is a post on the isc.org message boards about this. I don't have the URL but I searched on SGI and bootp in the dhcpd client archives. I'd suggest trying bootpd(rather thand dhcpd) and seeing if the SGI boots right up. That worked for me after screwing around with dhcpd for a few days. Good luck. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > [mailto:owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com]On Behalf Of Philippe Chauvat > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:06 AM > To: Linux Mips > Subject: [DHCP] > > > Hello, > > I'm trying to install Linux on an Indy Box. I need some help to boot > from my Indy with bootp protocols. > > My configuration is: > one Indy with Irix 6.2, nfs, dhcp and tftp server (I would like !) ---> > named _cream_ IP=192.0.2.2 > one Indy with Irix 5.2 ----> named _pancake_ IP=192.0.2.3 > one PC box with Mandrake 6.0 nfs, dhcp and tftp server ----> named > _pie_ IP=192.0.2.1 > one HUB to connect everybody > > I followed instructions from different HowTo's but... > > 1/When I use _cream_ as dhcp server (/usr/sbin/dhcpd -f -d) and try to > boot _pancake_ I receive a message something like > BOOT... (not RFC1048) > and then my _pancake_ does not boot. > > 2/ If I try to use _cream_ as dhcp server nothing appears > > So, I would like to ask a lot of things! > -- can I use bootp from _pancake_ to boot on _cream_ or _pie_ ? > -- how can I see some information about bootp connection on _cream_ from > _pancake_ ? > > Thanks a lot for your help. > Philippe > > P.S. _cream_, _pancake_ and _pie_ names are only as example. > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 08:57:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:56:46 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:53882 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:56:28 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA02359; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA00310; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA78510 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:47:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA85105 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:47:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: from rotor.chem.unr.edu (rotor.chem.unr.edu [134.197.32.176]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id JAA08532 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:47:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (wesolows@rotor.chem.unr.edu) Received: (from wesolows@localhost) by rotor.chem.unr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30793; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:47:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:47:36 -0700 From: Keith M Wesolowski To: Eric Watkins Cc: Philippe Chauvat , Linux Mips Subject: Re: [DHCP] Message-ID: <20000525094735.A30683@chem.unr.edu> References: <392D4F76.9B06C235@exfo.com> <001801bfc665$feabed20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <001801bfc665$feabed20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net>; from watkinse@attens.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:26:35AM -0700 X-Complaints-To: postmaster@chem.unr.edu Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:26:35AM -0700, Eric Watkins wrote: > Either the isc.org dhcpd sends things the SGIs aren't prepared to get or it > just not implementing bootpd the right way. I think it's just a config issue > but I've yet to get things right with the dhcpd.conf. You'll notice there > are 4 get requests in the log files before the SGI times out. I also had difficulty using ISC dhcpd to boot SGIs until I did an unsetenv netaddr before booting. I don't yet know why this works. -- Keith M Wesolowski wesolows@chem.unr.edu University of Nevada http://www.chem.unr.edu Chemistry Department Systems and Network Administrator From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 09:22:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:21:56 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33918 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:21:31 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA01852; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA59657 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA63783 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:14:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00348 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port2.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.2]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07680; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:14:22 +0200 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000525015843.A7991@uni-koblenz.de> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Harald Koerfgen Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: Ralf Baechle Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Cc: SGI Linux , Linux MIPS , Klaus Naumann Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On 24-May-00 Ralf Baechle wrote: [offset.h] > A good solution is important now that we have SMP. Toggling CONFIG_SMP > affects offset.h and not for all variations of make invocations we > actually have the guarantee that offset.h is being rebuilt before using > it. What about making offset.h to depend on $(TOPDIR)/.config? This may cause unneccessary rebuilds of objects depending on offset.h after configuration changes but it forces offset.h to be rebuilt when CONFIG_SMP is toggled. For example: --- Makefile.old Thu May 25 19:05:08 2000 +++ Makefile Thu May 25 19:08:48 2000 @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ offset.h: offset.s sed -n '/^@@@/s///p' $^ >$@ -offset.s: offset.c +offset.s: offset.c $(TOPDIR)/.config clean: rm -f offset.[hs] $(TARGET).new -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 09:31:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:31:07 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:23868 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:30:48 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA27382; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:25:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA70872 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA15788; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6CBA78D7; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: Harald Koerfgen Cc: Ralf Baechle , SGI Linux , Linux MIPS , Klaus Naumann Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, 25 May 2000, Harald Koerfgen wrote: > > On 24-May-00 Ralf Baechle wrote: > [offset.h] > > > A good solution is important now that we have SMP. Toggling CONFIG_SMP > > affects offset.h and not for all variations of make invocations we > > actually have the guarantee that offset.h is being rebuilt before using > > it. > > What about making offset.h to depend on $(TOPDIR)/.config? > > This may cause unneccessary rebuilds of objects depending on offset.h after > configuration changes but it forces offset.h to be rebuilt when CONFIG_SMP is > toggled. Would you mind removing the include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h from the CVS repository, I get conflicts and stuff when I update. I don't see why we need to have a dummy file there. Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 10:10:16 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:10:07 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:54856 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:09:44 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA03009; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:04:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA39127 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:01:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA96581; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA03481; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:01:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.14]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16088; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:00:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:00:21 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:00:21 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: Harald Koerfgen , SGI Linux , Linux MIPS , Klaus Naumann Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Message-ID: <20000525200021.A1226@uni-koblenz.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:19:40AM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:19:40AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > On 24-May-00 Ralf Baechle wrote: > > [offset.h] > > > > > A good solution is important now that we have SMP. Toggling CONFIG_SMP > > > affects offset.h and not for all variations of make invocations we > > > actually have the guarantee that offset.h is being rebuilt before using > > > it. > > > > What about making offset.h to depend on $(TOPDIR)/.config? > > > > This may cause unneccessary rebuilds of objects depending on offset.h after > > configuration changes but it forces offset.h to be rebuilt when CONFIG_SMP is > > toggled. > > Would you mind removing the include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h from the CVS > repository, I get conflicts and stuff when I update. I don't see why we need > to have a dummy file there. Conceptually I don't like that either. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 10:12:57 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:12:47 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:44552 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:12:21 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA02185; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:16:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA13519; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA42217 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:04:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA21009; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B27A78D7; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Harald Koerfgen , SGI Linux , Linux MIPS , Klaus Naumann Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux In-Reply-To: <20000525200021.A1226@uni-koblenz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > > Would you mind removing the include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h from the CVS > > repository, I get conflicts and stuff when I update. I don't see why we > > need to have a dummy file there. > > Conceptually I don't like that either. I think my solution that I submitted yesterday was pretty good. If add a rule that removes include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h when you make clean we will be just fine. You'll have to make clean when you toggle between SMP and UP, but I think we can live with that. Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Thu May 25 10:25:06 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:24:57 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:5967 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:24:45 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA05285; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:19:22 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA08805 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA21770; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:18:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (mailhost.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.64.1]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id LAA03348; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:18:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ralf@oss.sgi.com) Received: from cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de (cacc-14.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.131.14]) by mailhost.uni-koblenz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18623; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:18:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lappi.waldorf-gmbh.de id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:17:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:17:49 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: Harald Koerfgen , SGI Linux , Linux MIPS , Klaus Naumann Subject: Re: CVS Update@oss.sgi.com: linux Message-ID: <20000525201749.A15789@uni-koblenz.de> References: <20000525200021.A1226@uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:02:52AM -0700 X-Accept-Language: de,en,fr Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:02:52AM -0700, Ulf Carlsson wrote: > > > Would you mind removing the include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h from the CVS > > > repository, I get conflicts and stuff when I update. I don't see why we > > > need to have a dummy file there. > > > > Conceptually I don't like that either. > > I think my solution that I submitted yesterday was pretty good. If add a rule > that removes include/asm-$(ARCH)/offset.h when you make clean we will be just > fine. You'll have to make clean when you toggle between SMP and UP, but I > think we can live with that. The recent change of __SMP__ to CONFIG_SMP almost everywhere in the kernel was intended to avoid just that. Ralf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:57:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:27 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:18970 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:37:54 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA02804; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:42:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA54441; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA87135 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:22:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [150.166.91.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA58268 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:22:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mailinglist@ichilton.co.uk) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA22810 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (mailinglist@ichilton.co.uk) Received: from icserver.ichilton.co.uk ([62.252.236.142]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000525201906.TQZN290.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@icserver.ichilton.co.uk>; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:19:06 +0100 Received: from ian (Ian [192.168.0.8]) by icserver.ichilton.co.uk (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e4PKIDU12488; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:18:13 +0100 From: "Ian Chilton" To: , Subject: Linux on SGI Indy ? Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:18:14 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4132.2800 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello, I have just purchased a 2nd hand SGI Indy (100Mhz MIPS with 48MB RAM). This is the first time I have seen/used IRIX, but I have been running Linux for years. My questions are: * Can I run Linux on this machine? * If so, where can I download it? * Is anyone running Linux on an Indy, if so, i'd appreciate your comments etc.. Thanks! Bye for Now, Ian \|||/ (o o) /---------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------\ | Ian Chilton (IRC Nick - GadgetMan) ian@ichilton.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | Backup E-Mail --> ian@ichilton.dhis.org ICQ #: 16007717 | | Mobile Phone (MAX 150 Chars!) --> ianchilton@sms.genie.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.ianchilton.co.uk --> Main Page | | http://www.ichilton.co.uk --> Own Web Server (When Online) | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | "Unix is user friendly - it's just picky about it's friends." | \-----------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:57:56 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:29 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:44060 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:20:27 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id GAA00071; Fri, 26 May 2000 06:37:34 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA01606 for linux-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 06:34:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id GAA96400 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 06:34:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id GAA05418 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 06:34:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id JAA17656 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:34:01 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id JAA18768 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:34:00 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id JAA30016; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:34:00 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14638.32072.31754.98294@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:34:00 -0400 (EDT) To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: MIPS64 ABI X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I used to get the MIPS 64-bit ABI from http://www.mipsabi.org/Tech/Specifications.html But sadly there seems to be no www.mipsabi.org anymore. Even more sadly I removed my copy knowing I could get it again easily (afterall the net is really just one really big hard drive :]) Anyone know where I can get it now? -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:57:56 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:28 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:44060 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:19:10 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA03458; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:05:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA01564 for linux-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA96839; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA07367; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id KAA17310; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:02:13 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id KAA20648; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:02:12 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id KAA29814; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:02:12 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14638.33763.840817.330892@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:02:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Ulf Carlsson CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: cross Mips64-linux binutils problem In-Reply-To: References: <14636.15579.327225.215562@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >>>>> "UC" == Ulf Carlsson writes: UC> You could try my superpatch that I have on oss.sgi.com. It's a UC> newer than Ralf's patch that you have: UC> UC> ftp://oss.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/src/binutils/binutils-000424.diff.gz I forward ported your patch to binutils-000524 since I could not get my hands on 000524. $ /../mips-000524/gas/as-new -64 -mips3 -non_shared crt0s.s -o crt0s.o crt0s.s: Assembler messages: crt0s.s:7: Internal error, aborting at /../binutils-000524/gas/config/tc-mips.c line 4364 in macro Please report this bug. The line may not match because of the different base snapshot but it certainly comes from line 1427 of the patch. If I add a -G 0 (which is how I normaly build anyway) then the assembler does not complain. However, my relocations seem messed up! objdump fails reading them, IRIX elfdump seems confused though readelf seems to handle it fine. Here is the source again: .text .align 4 .ent _start , 0 .globl _start _start: dla $sp, kernelInfoLocal ld $sp, 0($sp) daddu $sp, $sp, 0x6000 dla $25, crtInit j $25 # NOTREACHED j $31 .end _start An interesing item (but may be a red herring) is that IRIX as(1) places R_MIPS_LO16 relocations int the .rel.text section, and gas(1) places them (an all relocations) in .rela.text I'm assuming that if objdump can't read my .o's then the gld(1) probably can't either. Does that make sense? Any ideas? -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:58:03 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:28 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:34088 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:14:17 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id QAA03153; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:18:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA09889; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA48094 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:03:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id QAA09523 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:03:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from staff.cerf.net (staff.cerf.net [198.137.140.12]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id QAA00036 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:03:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (watkinse@attens.com) Received: from sdhqdt0132 (dhcp684.hq.sd.cerf.net [192.215.14.84]) by staff.cerf.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PN3Pe14246; Thu, 25 May 2000 23:03:25 GMT From: "Eric Watkins" To: "Keith M Wesolowski" Cc: "Philippe Chauvat" , "Linux Mips" Subject: RE: [DHCP] Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:03:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bfc69d$6f792a40$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <20000525094735.A30683@chem.unr.edu> Importance: Normal X-Filtered-By: VBFilter 1.0 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Ok. I've had about 4 replys so far about other people having issues with the isc.org dhcpd daemon... I've had great luck using it for other projects so AFAIK this is just an issue with the way SGI does bootp. Perhaps we can find a workaround for the ISC dhcpd. I'll put a sniffer on the wire and watch a bootpd-->SGI exchange vs. a dhcpd-->SGI exchange and see what's missing. In the mean time can we get something posted to the FAQ or howto so that other people don't sufer the same fate? Thanks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com > [mailto:owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com]On Behalf Of Keith M Wesolowski > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:48 AM > To: Eric Watkins > Cc: Philippe Chauvat; Linux Mips > Subject: Re: [DHCP] > > > On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:26:35AM -0700, Eric Watkins wrote: > > > Either the isc.org dhcpd sends things the SGIs aren't prepared > to get or it > > just not implementing bootpd the right way. I think it's just a > config issue > > but I've yet to get things right with the dhcpd.conf. You'll > notice there > > are 4 get requests in the log files before the SGI times out. > > I also had difficulty using ISC dhcpd to boot SGIs until I did an > unsetenv netaddr before booting. I don't yet know why this works. > > -- > Keith M Wesolowski wesolows@chem.unr.edu > University of Nevada http://www.chem.unr.edu > Chemistry Department Systems and Network Administrator > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:58:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:29 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:4460 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:24:01 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA08707; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:29:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA31789; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA66320 for linux-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA73781 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: from gnyf.wheel.dk (gnyf.wheel.dk [193.162.159.104]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA04159 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (soren@gnyf.wheel.dk) Received: (from soren@localhost) by gnyf.wheel.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA03511; Fri, 26 May 2000 06:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:14:04 +0200 From: "Soren S. Jorvang" To: Keith M Wesolowski Cc: Eric Watkins , Philippe Chauvat , Linux Mips Subject: Re: [DHCP] Message-ID: <20000526061404.A3481@gnyf.wheel.dk> References: <392D4F76.9B06C235@exfo.com> <001801bfc665$feabed20$540ed7c0@hq.sd.cerf.net> <20000525094735.A30683@chem.unr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000525094735.A30683@chem.unr.edu>; from wesolows@chem.unr.edu on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:47:36AM -0700 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:47:36AM -0700, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > I also had difficulty using ISC dhcpd to boot SGIs until I did an > unsetenv netaddr before booting. I don't yet know why this works. Ted fixed dhcpd for SGI some time ago. I am not sure if it has made into 3.0. --- server/bootp.c.orig Fri Apr 9 19:55:02 1999 +++ server/bootp.c Wed Dec 8 00:23:16 1999 @@ -348,6 +348,16 @@ from, &to, &hto); return; } + + /* If it comes from a client that already knows its address + and is not requesting a broadcast response, and we can + unicast to a client without using the ARP protocol, sent it + directly to that client. */ + } else if (!(raw.flags & htons (BOOTP_BROADCAST)) && + can_unicast_without_arp()) { + to.sin_addr = raw.yiaddr; + to.sin_port = remote_port; + /* Otherwise, broadcast it on the local network. */ } else { to.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_BROADCAST; -- Soren From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 09:58:04 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:57:29 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:25379 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:38:05 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id KAA00890; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:33:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA59678 for linux-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA29904 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA01276 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (IDENT:root@1Cust20.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net [63.22.172.20]) by unidial.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01800; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <392EB5F0.2464DF60@unidial.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:35:44 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jimix@watson.ibm.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI References: <14638.32072.31754.98294@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing At one time, I thought I saw a copy somewhere on oss.sgi.com - but I don't remember which version. I checked my archives and found a copy of System V ABI MIPS supplement 3.0 in PDF (approx. 463K), 3.1 (approx. 651K) and the processor conformace guide 1.2.2 (approx 282k). I can email you a copy if you would like. - Alan Hoyt - Jimi X wrote: > I used to get the MIPS 64-bit ABI from > http://www.mipsabi.org/Tech/Specifications.html > > But sadly there seems to be no www.mipsabi.org anymore. > > Even more sadly I removed my copy knowing I could get it again easily > (afterall the net is really just one really big hard drive :]) > > Anyone know where I can get it now? > > -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Fri May 26 10:01:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:01:36 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:11378 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:01:34 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA01592; Fri, 26 May 2000 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id KAA71632 for linux-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:55:26 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA07962; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:55:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE57A78D7; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: Alan Hoyt Cc: jimix@watson.ibm.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI In-Reply-To: <392EB5F0.2464DF60@unidial.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Fri, 26 May 2000, Alan Hoyt wrote: > At one time, I thought I saw a copy somewhere on oss.sgi.com - but I > don't remember which version. I checked my archives and found a copy of > System V ABI MIPS supplement 3.0 in PDF (approx. 463K), 3.1 (approx. > 651K) and the processor conformace guide 1.2.2 (approx 282k). I can > email you a copy if you would like. These documents are available at http://www.sco.com/developer/devspecs/, but we have copies of them at oss.sgi.com too. Look in /pub/linux/mips/docs/ or sometihng. I think oss.sgi.com is down for the moment. Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 29 18:06:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:06:06 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:3931 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 May 2000 16:49:46 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA13043; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA39065 for linux-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA77221; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:00:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA02082; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189en0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id NAA16334; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:40:31 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189en0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id NAA12252; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:40:30 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id NAA29716; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:40:30 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14642.43917.729281.720220@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:40:29 -0400 (EDT) To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: Alan Hoyt , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI In-Reply-To: References: <392EB5F0.2464DF60@unidial.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >>>>> "UC" == Ulf Carlsson writes: >>>>> "AH" == Alan Hoyt writes: AH> At one time, I thought I saw a copy somewhere on oss.sgi.com - AH> but I don't remember which version. I checked my archives and AH> found a copy of System V ABI MIPS supplement 3.0 in PDF AH> (approx. 463K), The 3.0 supplement is 32-bit only, I need the 64-bit. AH> 3.1 (approx. 651K) and the processor conformace guide 1.2.2 AH> (approx 282k). I can email you a copy if you would like. Are they 64-bit? If so, please send 3.1 and the PSG 1.2.2. and once the oss is up perhaps someone can place them there. I have recieved a few "me too" requests so placeing them there would be a benifit to all. UC> These documents are available at UC> http://www.sco.com/developer/devspecs/, yeah, but only the the 3.0 supplement (32-bit) UC> but we have copies of them at oss.sgi.com too. Look in UC> /pub/linux/mips/docs/ or sometihng. I think oss.sgi.com is down UC> for the moment. I will look there, though it still seems to be down. Thanks, -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 29 18:06:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:06:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:41011 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:39:36 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (nodin.corp.sgi.com [192.26.51.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA01683; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:43:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA55040; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA32014 for linux-list; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA42349 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:28:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de (gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.30]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA02699 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:28:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (agx@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de) Received: from bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.144.20] by gandalf.physik.uni-konstanz.de with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12vnBz-0001Pf-00; Sat, 27 May 2000 22:28:19 +0200 Received: by bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 May 2000 22:28:05 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:28:05 +0200 From: Guido Guenther To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: xserver Message-ID: <20000527222805.A1623@bert.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Mail-Followup-To: Guido Guenther , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing With some small optimations the newports xserver seems to be a bit smoother now. I've put source and binary at: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/mipslinux/x/test Maybe someone wants to run x11perf on it ;) I'll put up a new patch agaisnt the xfree4.0 source tree after I've reworked more of the code. -- Guido -- GPG-Public Key: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/guenther.gpg.asc From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Mon May 29 18:16:55 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:16:46 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:16742 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:16:30 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id SAA05954; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:50:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA57111 for linux-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:46:27 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA89518 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:46:24 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de [193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id SAA05951 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:29:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3610B512FC; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:29:58 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Problems booting Indigo... Message-ID: <20000530032958.D15930@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: linux@engr.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I've now build a kernel which I would like to test on my Indigo;) The problem is that I can't load it;( I tried bootpd as well as ISC dhcpd. The result is actually just the same: >> bootp()parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 = =20 No server for parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 = =20 I tried to do with "parkautomat:", with IPs ("192.168.1.4:"), I leaved the server totally off the string, I used bootpd and dhcps with rfc1048, with cmu (bootpd), I checked the "SQE dip switch" at the AUI->10baseT transceiver. setenv/unsetenv netaddr didn't make a difference, too... I checked dozends of combinations, but there's no server seen by the Indigo;( /etc/bootptab: ip12:\ :ht=3Dethernet:\ :ha=3D08006906ba2e:\ :bs=3Dauto:\ :vm=3Dcmu:\ :ip=3D192.168.1.3:\ :sm=3D255.255.255.0:\ :sa=3D192.168.1.4:\ :bf=3Dvmlinux.ip12:\ :to=3D7200: =20 tcpdump shows: [root@parkautomat:/root] #> tcpdump -i eth0 -n tcpdump: listening on eth0 01:46:03.979150 arp who-has 192.168.1.3 tell 192.168.1.3 01:46:03.979864 192.168.1.3.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xa0d5 secs:5 C:19= 2.168.1.3 [|bootp] 01:46:03.982352 192.168.1.4.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xa0d5 secs:5 C:19= 2.168.1.3 Y:192.168.1.3 S:192.168.1.4 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 01:46:08.408974 192.168.1.3.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xa0d5 secs:10 C:1= 92.168.1.3 [|bootp] 01:46:08.411526 192.168.1.4.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xa0d5 secs:10 C:1= 92.168.1.3 Y:192.168.1.3 S:192.168.1.4 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 01:46:13.408851 192.168.1.3.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xa0d5 secs:15 C:1= 92.168.1.3 [|bootp] 01:46:13.411166 192.168.1.4.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xa0d5 secs:15 C:1= 92.168.1.3 Y:192.168.1.3 S:192.168.1.4 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 01:46:18.408664 192.168.1.3.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xa0d5 secs:20 C:1= 92.168.1.3 [|bootp] 01:46:18.411001 192.168.1.4.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xa0d5 secs:20 C:1= 92.168.1.3 Y:192.168.1.3 S:192.168.1.4 [|bootp] [tos 0x10] So there are four requests, four replys, but none of them seems to be seen;( Can anybody tell me how to boot the kernel? The "Diskless Workstation Administration Guide" didn't help a lot... Maybe I can (if nothing else helps...) boot the kernel through the tape? If so, how di I have to put the kernel onto the tape? How to load it off? MfG, JBG PS: Hacking the kernel was done in one evening, trying to boot it costed dome days... --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! /* Jan-Benedict Glaw -- +49-177-5601720 */ keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB "insmod vi.o and there we go..." (Alexander Viro on linux-kernel) --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEAREBAAYFAjkzGZUACgkQHb1edYOZ4buw2ACdEdTvrmfoTFi+uacc96iG2IzK EiwAoJB/tQniMDe5LziLZU5mW8nrixc2 =nuwS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 01:02:28 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 01:02:18 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:17705 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 01:02:01 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id BAA28170; Tue, 30 May 2000 01:03:15 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA37346; Tue, 30 May 2000 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA38350 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 00:57:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id AAA91538 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 00:57:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net) Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id AAA04561 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 00:46:48 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net) Received: from whale.dutch.mountain by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via 1Cust212.tnt9.rtm1.nl.uu.net [212.136.249.212] with ESMTP for id JAA12897 (8.8.8/3.41); Tue, 30 May 2000 09:46:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost(really [127.0.0.1]) by whale.dutch.mountain via in.smtpd with smtp id for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:46:25 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Nov-26) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:46:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard van den Berg X-Sender: ravdberg@whale.dutch.mountain To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... In-Reply-To: <20000530032958.D15930@lug-owl.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, 30 May 2000, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > I've now build a kernel which I would like to test on my Indigo;) The > problem is that I can't load it;( I tried bootpd as well as ISC dhcpd. > The result is actually just the same: > > >> bootp()parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 > > No server for parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 Just after doing this, does the machine show in the server arp table with `arp -a`? If so forget this mail, if not issue (of course with the right addresses) `arp -s 192.168.1.15 08:00:2B:2D:90:C0` DECstation <-> bootp has following quirk: power it on and let automatically boot and all goes well. Power it on and leave for a while (a quarter of an hour) at the PROM-console and then booting, forget it unless I use the arp -s command... Regards, Richard From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 10:09:28 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:09:08 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:56338 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:36:25 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id JAA29697; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:13:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA80381 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:09:05 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id JAA28983 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsk@tetracon-eng.net) Received: from thor ([207.246.91.243]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via SMTP id IAA05860 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jsk@tetracon-eng.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA05643; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:36:59 -0300 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:36:59 -0300 From: "J. Scott Kasten" To: Richard van den Berg cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Sounds like it's using RARP first to translate it's MAC into an IP address, then hitting the bootp server secondly - already knowing it's IP address - and just requesting info on the server/file to actually boot strap itself. Sun boxes work that way. You need to add a static arp entry for them if they netboot. Otherwise, after about 10 - 15 minutes or so when other boxes on the net start flushing their arp caches, your stuck. -- J. Scott Kasten Email: jsk AT tetracon-eng DOT net "The only future you have is the one you choose to make for yourself..." On Tue, 30 May 2000, Richard van den Berg wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2000, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > > > I've now build a kernel which I would like to test on my Indigo;) The > > problem is that I can't load it;( I tried bootpd as well as ISC dhcpd. > > The result is actually just the same: > > > > >> bootp()parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 > > > > No server for parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 > > Just after doing this, does the machine show in the server arp table with > `arp -a`? If so forget this mail, if not issue (of course with the right > addresses) `arp -s 192.168.1.15 08:00:2B:2D:90:C0` > > DECstation <-> bootp has following quirk: power it on and let > automatically boot and all goes well. Power it on and leave for a while (a > quarter of an hour) at the PROM-console and then booting, forget it unless > I use the arp -s command... > > Regards, > Richard > > From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 11:23:27 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:23:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:29238 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:22:51 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA01830; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:51:32 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA40307 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA11342 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from mailout3.nyroc.rr.com (mailout3-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.168]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA09628 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:39:44 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from hork.rochester.rr.com (d185d0f95.rochester.rr.com [24.93.15.149]) by mailout3.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20265; Tue, 30 May 2000 13:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from molotov (helo=localhost) by hork.rochester.rr.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12wpzS-0008TH-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 13:39:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Ruvolo To: linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello all. Please cc all replies to me as I am not subscribed to the list. I recently obtained a SGI Indy. The hard disk is totally wiped out, with no OS on it at all. No IRIX, no sash, no Linux, no nothing. The machine has no floppy or CD-ROM drive, but it seems that the boot PROM has a way of accessing a remote kernel using bootp and tftp. I want to get linux on this system, but I'm not sure about some of the details. I don't have other machines with SCSI interfaces that I could partition/write to this disk. Where do I go from here? I've been trying to tftp a kernel.. but no luck. How do i mount a root partition? NFS? How do I partition this box with a SGI partition table if I don't have the irix 'fx' tool? Will I have to boot off of a bootp/tftp server permanently? Has anyone tried this before? Had any luck? Any advise you can give would be appreciated. I've been trying to bootp/tftp a kernel with no luck. I am running a bootp server on an i386 machine, and it sees the sgi's requests and issues replies, but the indy ignores them enitrely. In the following, lestrade is the indy, with IP 192.168.0.105. hork is the bootp/tftp server with IP 192.168.0.17. Here is a transcript of the prom monitor: >> boot -f bootp()/mips/vmlinux No server for /mips/vmlinux. Your netaddr environment variable may be set incorrectly, or the net may be too busy for a connection to be made. Unable to load bootp()/mips/vmlinux: could not contact remote server. Here is output from my bootp server: # bootpd -v bootpd+dhcp 2.4.3 # bootpd -d4 bootpd: info(6): bootptab mtime: Tue May 30 12:20:38 2000 bootpd: info(6): reading "/etc/bootptab" bootpd: info(6): read 1 entries (1 hosts) from "/etc/bootptab" bootpd: info(6): recvd pkt from IP addr 192.168.0.105 bootpd: info(6): bootptab mtime: Tue May 30 12:20:38 2000 bootpd: info(6): request from IP addr 192.168.0.105 bootpd: info(6): found 192.168.0.105 (lestrade) bootpd: info(6): requested path="mips" file="vmlinux" bootpd: info(6): bootfile="/mips/vmlinux" bootpd: info(6): vendor magic field is 0.0.0.0 bootpd: info(6): sending reply (with no options) [repeat 3x] my bootptab file: # /etc/bootptab: database for bootp server (/usr/sbin/bootpd) # Blank lines and lines beginning with '#' are ignored. lestrade: hd=mips\ :td=/usr/local/share/tftpboot:\ :rp=/usr/local/share/tftpboot:\ :ht=ethernet:\ :ha=0x080069078c4f:\ :sm=255.255.255.0:\ :ip=192.168.0.105:\ :hn:\ :to=auto: If you look at this excerpt from tcpdump, it looks like its working properly. I don't see why its being ignored by the sgi. 12:21:35.835809 arp who-has 192.168.0.105 tell 192.168.0.105 12:21:35.837489 192.168.0.105.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0x812b C:192.168.0.105 file "mips/vmlinux 12:21:35.843089 arp who-has 192.168.0.105 tell 192.168.0.17 12:21:35.843524 arp reply 192.168.0.105 is-at 8:0:69:7:8c:4f 12:21:35.843549 192.168.0.17.67 > 192.168.0.105.68: xid:0x812b C:192.168.0.105 Y:192.168.0.105 S:192.168.0.17 sname "hork.rochester.rr.com file "/mips/vmlinux (DF) If anyone can offer any suggestions or explanation, I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Chris From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 11:23:27 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:23:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:28726 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:22:50 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id LAA02141; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:42:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA27339 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:27:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id LAA30651 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:26:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kei@arch.sony.co.jp) Received: from ns4.sony.co.jp (ns4.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA04362 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kei@arch.sony.co.jp) Received: from mail1.sony.co.jp (gatekeeper7.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.21]) by ns4.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id CAA50155 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:52:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from newsa.net.arch.sony.co.jp ([43.13.251.1]) by mail1.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id CAA20474 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:52:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from arch.sony.co.jp (kei@[43.11.132.48]) by newsa.net.arch.sony.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with ESMTP id CAA06812 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:52:54 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200005301752.CAA06812@newsa.net.arch.sony.co.jp> To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Compile speed on SGI/Linux (like Indy) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 03:15:19 +0900 From: Hiroshi Kawashima Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi. I'm one of member of Linux-VR project (porting Linux on NEC VR41xx based WinCE machines) http://linux-vr.org/ . I've almostly completed porting Kernel Floating Emulation of Linux/Mips to Linux-VR, so I'm moving to building userland (hard-float). Since VR41xx based WinCE machine is very slow, I'm now considering to buy SGI machines to build userland binaries. But before that, my questions is how fast Indy comparing with VR41xx based machines ? I deeply appreciate if anyone suggest me compile time for any source packages on Indy or other SGI machines. Compile time of any source packages is very helpful for me. Thank you in advance. ---- Kawashima From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 15:56:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:55:58 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:14086 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:55:50 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id PAA06910; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA00337; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA08346 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA08409 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:23:41 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de [193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id PAA04077 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:11:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 456E851344; Wed, 31 May 2000 00:11:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:11:12 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Cc: Chris Ruvolo Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... Message-ID: <20000531001112.A31916@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: linux@engr.sgi.com, Chris Ruvolo References: <20000530032958.D15930@lug-owl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from R.vandenBerg@inter.NL.net on Tue, May 30, 2000 at 09:46:24AM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 09:46:24AM +0200, Richard van den Berg wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2000, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >=20 > > >> bootp()parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 > > No server for parkautomat:/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 >=20 > Just after doing this, does the machine show in the server arp table with > `arp -a`? If so forget this mail, if not issue (of course with the right > addresses) `arp -s 192.168.1.15 08:00:2B:2D:90:C0` Good hint. After playing some (long...) more with different combinations of any piece of software installed here, I'm currently making steps=20 in the very right direction: Here my uHowTo: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - Server Side: - Kernel here is 2.4.0-test1-ac4, so arp(8) no longer knows "pub": [root@parkautomat:/root] #> arp -s 192.168.1.3 08:00:69:06:BA:2E 192.168.1.3 is Indigo's IP address, 08:00:69:06:BA:2E is its hardware address (one can find it by giving the "eaddr" command at serial console) - ISC dhcpd from .deb (2.0-3) with very short config: ---------------->8=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D option domain-name "lug-owl.de"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { } host indigo { hardware ethernet 08:00:69:06:ba:2e; fixed-address 192.168.1.3; filename "/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12"; option tftp-server-name "192.168.1.4"; } =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D8<-------= ----------------- - in.tftpd installed (0.10-1) Client Side: - You have to *remove* the netaddr variable: >> unsetenv netaddr - Then try to boot: >> boot bootp()/tftpboot/vmlinux.ip12 Effect: The Indigo gets its config, but unfortunately it seems that incoming tftp UDP packets are not accepted. This might be because the originating port is !=3D 69 (which is tftp): [root@parkautomat:/root] #> tcpdump -i eth0 -N not port ssh tcpdump: listening on eth0 22:26:27.205401 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa223 secs:5 = [|bootp] 22:26:27.376706 parkautomat.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: xid:0xa223 sec= s:5 Y:indigo S:parkautomat [|bootp] [tos 0x10] 22:26:27.377730 arp who-has indigo tell indigo 22:26:27.631528 parkautomat.bootps > indigo.bootpc: xid:0xa223 secs:5 Y:ind= igo S:parkautomat [|bootp] (DF) 22:26:27.638649 arp who-has parkautomat tell indigo 22:26:27.638814 arp reply parkautomat is-at 0:e0:98:16:22:80 22:26:27.639345 indigo.8740 > parkautomat.tftp: 35 RRQ "/tftpboot/vmlinux.i= p12" 22:26:27.922485 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8740: udp 516 (DF) 22:26:32.915339 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8740: udp 516 (DF) 22:26:37.915225 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8740: udp 516 (DF) 22:26:42.915152 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8740: udp 516 (DF) 22:26:47.915233 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8740: udp 516 (DF) 22:26:57.054788 indigo.8741 > parkautomat.tftp: 35 RRQ "/tftpboot/vmlinux.i= p12" 22:26:57.125679 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8741: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:02.125199 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8741: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:07.125235 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8741: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:12.125247 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8741: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:17.125586 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8741: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:27.054101 indigo.8742 > parkautomat.tftp: 35 RRQ "/tftpboot/vmlinux.i= p12" 22:27:27.108923 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8742: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:32.105253 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8742: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:37.105143 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8742: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:42.105251 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8742: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:47.105618 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8742: udp 516 (DF) 22:27:57.053731 indigo.8743 > parkautomat.tftp: 35 RRQ "/tftpboot/vmlinux.i= p12" 22:27:57.125781 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8743: udp 516 (DF) 22:28:02.125304 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8743: udp 516 (DF) 22:28:07.125518 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8743: udp 516 (DF) 22:28:12.125208 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8743: udp 516 (DF) 22:28:17.125177 parkautomat.1028 > indigo.8743: udp 516 (DF) Now the final question: How can I make in.tftpd to answer *from* port 69? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I think this is the problem... Who can help??? =09 MfG, JBG PS: Sorry for this looong mail;) --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! /* Jan-Benedict Glaw -- +49-177-5601720 */ keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB "insmod vi.o and there we go..." (Alexander Viro on linux-kernel) --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEAREBAAYFAjk0PIAACgkQHb1edYOZ4bslEQCcD/uf2Kjl7r2nFnNfUGar4QuG aEIAn1HRPi1ZhQRL+SbgCt++0kgLsZxM =qMCv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 17:40:07 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:39:58 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33888 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:39:43 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id RAA08814; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:32:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA21648; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA05257 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:18:01 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA68909 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:17:55 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from mailout3.nyroc.rr.com (mailout3-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.168]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id RAA06265 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 17:12:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from hork (d185d0f95.rochester.rr.com [24.93.15.149]) by mailout3.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08641; Tue, 30 May 2000 20:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from molotov (helo=localhost) by hork with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12ww7x-0000AG-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 20:12:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Ruvolo To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com cc: Jan-Benedict Glaw Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... In-Reply-To: <20000531001112.A31916@lug-owl.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > [root@parkautomat:/root] #> arp -s 192.168.1.3 08:00:69:06:BA:2E I didn't need to do this to get the bootp response. > - ISC dhcpd from .deb (2.0-3) with very short config: I switched to this and it works. >Effect: The Indigo gets its config, but unfortunately it seems that >incoming tftp UDP packets are not accepted. This might be because >the originating port is != 69 (which is tftp): Ok, I'm now in the same boat. >Now the final question: How can I make in.tftpd to answer *from* port 69? I'm not sure this is the problem. I believe RFC-compliant TFTP servers use system-assigned ports for each client connection. At least, I've seen this behavior on other TFTP servers. But, you may be right. The client could be expecting replies only on port 69. I don't know if this is possible without modifying the TFTP server. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks, Chris PS: Please cc responses to me. From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 21:26:18 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:26:09 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:62821 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:25:53 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id VAA29732; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:12:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA60344 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:10:09 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from hollywood.engr.sgi.com (hollywood.engr.sgi.com [163.154.34.46]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id VAA26613; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from fisher@localhost) by hollywood.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA00290; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) Message-Id: <200005310410.VAA00290@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... To: csr6702@grace.rit.edu (Chris Ruvolo) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, jbglaw@lug-owl.de (Jan-Benedict Glaw), fisher@hollywood.engr.sgi.com (William Fisher) In-Reply-To: from "Chris Ruvolo" at May 30, 2000 08:12:53 PM Reply-To: fisher@sgi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > > On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > > > [root@parkautomat:/root] #> arp -s 192.168.1.3 08:00:69:06:BA:2E > > I didn't need to do this to get the bootp response. > > > - ISC dhcpd from .deb (2.0-3) with very short config: > > I switched to this and it works. > > >Effect: The Indigo gets its config, but unfortunately it seems that > >incoming tftp UDP packets are not accepted. This might be because > >the originating port is != 69 (which is tftp): > > Ok, I'm now in the same boat. > > >Now the final question: How can I make in.tftpd to answer *from* port 69? > > I'm not sure this is the problem. I believe RFC-compliant TFTP servers > use system-assigned ports for each client connection. At least, I've seen > this behavior on other TFTP servers. But, you may be right. The client > could be expecting replies only on port 69. I don't know if this is > possible without modifying the TFTP server. > > Can anyone confirm this? > > Thanks, > Chris > > PS: Please cc responses to me. > Ok, I looked at the ARCS prom code for the Indy series machine aka an IP22 in SGI hardware speak. This code is from the BSD 4.3 distribution with some minor additions to support one of the last RFC's which added a few more options to the tftp protocol. The code in main.c looks like: struct servent *sp; main(argc, argv) char *argv[]; { struct sockaddr_in sin; int top; sp = getservbyname("tftp", "udp"); if (sp == 0) { fprintf(stderr, "tftp: udp/tftp: unknown service\n"); exit(1); } f = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); if (f < 0) { perror("tftp: socket"); exit(3); } bzero((char *)&sin, sizeof (sin)); sin.sin_family = AF_INET; if (bind(f, &sin, sizeof (sin)) < 0) { perror("tftp: bind"); exit(1); } strcpy(mode, "netascii"); signal(SIGINT, intr); if (argc > 1) { if (setjmp(toplevel) != 0) exit(0); setpeer(argc, argv); } top = setjmp(toplevel) == 0; for (;;) command(top); } The socket descriptor "f" is used to receive the data from the wire. The standard line in the /etc/services file for "tftp" contains: tftp 69/udp which will be returned in the "struct servent *sp" on the "getservbyname()" call. I looked at both tftp and tftpd and nowhere is there any checks for the UDP packet arriving on port 69. Are you sure this is the underlying cause of the problem? I didn't look at your packet trace in gory details. You can look at the stand BSD 4.X release for the nearly identical source code that is used in the SGI proms. -- Bill (fisher@sgi.com) From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 22:17:39 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:17:29 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:47986 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:17:01 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA03379; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:09:02 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA60142; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA11510 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:02:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA98949 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:02:46 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id VAA06591 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 21:58:19 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (IDENT:root@1Cust173.tnt32.chi5.da.uu.net [63.28.50.173]) by unidial.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25587; Wed, 31 May 2000 00:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39349D3D.9883ACAC@unidial.com> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:03:57 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jimix@watson.ibm.com CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI References: <392EB5F0.2464DF60@unidial.com> <14642.43917.729281.720220@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing It seems like oss.sgi.com is up and running again - the /pub/linux/mips/doc/ABI/ should have most of what you might need. I placed what small amount of material I have at http://www.unidial.com/~neuroinc/index.html - take a look and let me know if it's of value. - Alan Hoyt - Jimi X wrote: > >>>>> "UC" == Ulf Carlsson writes: > >>>>> "AH" == Alan Hoyt writes: > > AH> At one time, I thought I saw a copy somewhere on oss.sgi.com - > AH> but I don't remember which version. I checked my archives and > AH> found a copy of System V ABI MIPS supplement 3.0 in PDF > AH> (approx. 463K), > > The 3.0 supplement is 32-bit only, I need the 64-bit. > > AH> 3.1 (approx. 651K) and the processor conformace guide 1.2.2 > AH> (approx 282k). I can email you a copy if you would like. > > Are they 64-bit? If so, please send 3.1 and the PSG 1.2.2. and once the > oss is up perhaps someone can place them there. > I have recieved a few "me too" requests so placeing them there would > be a benifit to all. > > UC> These documents are available at > UC> http://www.sco.com/developer/devspecs/, > > yeah, but only the the 3.0 supplement (32-bit) > > UC> but we have copies of them at oss.sgi.com too. Look in > UC> /pub/linux/mips/docs/ or sometihng. I think oss.sgi.com is down > UC> for the moment. > > I will look there, though it still seems to be down. > > Thanks, > > -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Tue May 30 22:42:59 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:42:49 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33134 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:42:30 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id WAA07264; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:30:20 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA07317 for linux-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:19:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from calypso.engr.sgi.com (calypso.engr.sgi.com [163.154.5.113]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id WAA13830; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (ulfc@calypso.engr.sgi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.engr.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F52A7875; Tue, 30 May 2000 22:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Carlsson To: Alan Hoyt Cc: jimix@watson.ibm.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI In-Reply-To: <39349D3D.9883ACAC@unidial.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing > It seems like oss.sgi.com is up and running again - the > /pub/linux/mips/doc/ABI/ should have most of what you might need. I have put the stuff I was able to find there.. > I placed what small amount of material I have at > http://www.unidial.com/~neuroinc/index.html Hm.. this was *interesting*. I haven't seen this 64-bit MIPS psABI. Is there any chance that I can my hands on a postscript of them? Maybe you could provide a tar.gz of the HTML documents... Ulf From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 02:22:49 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:22:40 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:42049 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:22:30 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id CAA22995; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:17:38 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA71027 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:14:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA48620 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:14:36 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.121]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA01939 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 02:07:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (csr6702@grace.rit.edu) Received: from hork (d185d0f95.rochester.rr.com [24.93.15.149]) by mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18746; Wed, 31 May 2000 05:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from molotov (helo=localhost) by hork with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12x3nD-000050-00; Wed, 31 May 2000 04:23:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 04:23:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Ruvolo X-Sender: molotov@hork To: fisher@sgi.com cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... In-Reply-To: <200005310410.VAA00290@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing On Tue, 30 May 2000, William Fisher wrote: > Ok, I looked at the ARCS prom code for the Indy series machine >aka an IP22 > in SGI hardware speak. > >This code is from the BSD 4.3 distribution with some minor additions to support >one of the last RFC's which added a few more options to the tftp protocol. >I looked at both tftp and tftpd and nowhere is there any checks for >the UDP packet arriving on port 69. Are you sure this is the underlying >cause of the problem? I didn't look at your packet trace in gory details. > >You can look at the stand BSD 4.X release for the nearly identical source >code that is used in the SGI proms. Bill, Thanks for looking this up for us. The port 69 issue was speculation on our part. I've been talking with someone that has the boot PROM working with tftp, and it doesn't use port 69 exclusively. Unless the tftp code changed with different PROM versions, I think we can rule that out. Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 04:00:19 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:09 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:21115 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:59:54 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id DAA00992; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:44:06 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA16101; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA95300 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA88718 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:30:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: from belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de ([193.189.251.50]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA02325 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:26:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jbglaw@ev-stift-gymn.guetersloh.de) Received: by belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8210C51315; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:25:27 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: Chris Ruvolo Cc: fisher@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Problems booting Indigo... Message-ID: <20000531122527.A26328@lug-owl.de> Reply-To: jbglaw@lug-owl.de Mail-Followup-To: Chris Ruvolo , fisher@sgi.com, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com References: <200005310410.VAA00290@hollywood.engr.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from csr6702@grace.rit.edu on Wed, May 31, 2000 at 04:23:59AM -0400 X-Operating-System: Linux belgarath.esg-guetersloh.mediapoint.de 2.0.35 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 04:23:59AM -0400, Chris Ruvolo wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2000, William Fisher wrote: > > Ok, I looked at the ARCS prom code for the Indy series machine > >aka an IP22 > > in SGI hardware speak. > Bill, > Thanks for looking this up for us. The port 69 issue was > speculation on our part. I've been talking with someone that has the boot > PROM working with tftp, and it doesn't use port 69 exclusively. Unless > the tftp code changed with different PROM versions, I think we can rule > that out. I hacked the BSD tftpd last night (-> standalone and send from #69) but you're right. It makes no difference at all. This morning, I played with the transceiver again -- 2 switches, 4 possibilities. Tested all, but no success. Some two month ago I booted that Indigo over net (okay, it crashed immediately;) but the only difference is that we used a switched port there... It's brain-dead, but I'll fetch a switch from my old school and test it... MfG, JBG PS: Is there a way to boot the linux kernel off DAT tape or from local HDD? If so, HowTo? --=20 Fehler eingestehen, Gr=F6=DFe zeigen: Nehmt die Rechtschreibreform zur=FCck= !!! /* Jan-Benedict Glaw -- +49-177-5601720 */ keyID=3D0x8399E1BB fingerprint=3D250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 83= 99 E1BB "insmod vi.o and there we go..." (Alexander Viro on linux-kernel) --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEAREBAAYFAjk06JYACgkQHb1edYOZ4btktgCfe0MBLjRISv6mopYNGMBnB2MQ 8bcAnilGchVqUy5rdGmG59EFXvTREEaL =QKiR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 07:50:25 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:50:16 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:43786 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:50:03 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id HAA09912; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA56333; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA11584 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:07:33 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA20968; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:07:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from igw8.watson.ibm.com (igw8.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.20]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id HAA02060; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (jimix@watson.ibm.com) Received: from sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.104.62]) by igw8.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/05-14-1999) with ESMTP id KAA11232; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:02:12 -0400 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.229.13]) by sp1n189at0.watson.ibm.com (8.9.3/Feb-20-98) with ESMTP id KAA12610; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:02:11 -0400 Received: (from jimix@localhost) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) id KAA22090; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:02:11 -0400 From: jimix@pobox.com (Jimi X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14645.7010.473387.509198@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Ulf Carlsson Cc: Alan Hoyt , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI In-Reply-To: References: <39349D3D.9883ACAC@unidial.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: jimix@watson.ibm.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing >>>>> "UC" == Ulf Carlsson writes: >>>>> "AH" == Alan Hoyt writes: UC> I have put the stuff I was able to find there.. thank you AH> I placed what small amount of material I have at AH> http://www.unidial.com/~neuroinc/index.html - take a look and let AH> me know if it's of value. ahhh, yes this is some of the stuff I was looking for, but... I don't suppose you have the postscript and other docs that are referenced by the web pages? example: http://www.unidial.com/~neuroinc/64-bit/psCh0.htm#Preface UC> Hm.. this was *interesting*. I haven't seen this 64-bit MIPS UC> psABI. Is there any chance that I can my hands on a postscript UC> of them? Maybe you could provide a tar.gz of the HTML UC> documents... Alan, if you can do this so Ulf can make them available then that would be wonderfull. What we really need to find out what happend to mipsabi.org and put their stuff somewhere permananently s.a. oss.sgi or even one of the linux or cygnus sites. -Jimi X From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 08:53:05 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:52:45 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:33552 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:52:28 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA01425; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA74253; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA12976 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:18:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA98945 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:18:52 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (scott@tridsys.com) Received: from mailserver.tridsys.com (news.tridsys.com [207.86.66.211]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA09588 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (scott@tridsys.com) Received: from dull.tridsys.com (dull.tridsys.com [207.86.66.203]) by mailserver.tridsys.com (NTMail 4.30.0013/NY2276.00.00796d4c) with ESMTP id wggnaaaa for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 11:15:53 -0400 From: "Scott Thomas" To: Subject: problem with download Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:17:52 -0400 Message-ID: <002901bfcb13$63798a30$fe01a8c0@scott.tridsys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hello all, I've just recently acquired an old SGI Indy and planned to install Linux on it. I've downloaded the hardhat-sgi-5.1.tar.gz file several times (from ftp.linux.sgi.com). the ftp downloads the entire file, but never sees the EOF. when I try to un-tar it, it chokes since I believe the EOF marker is missing. I'm in the process of trying the mirror sites, but I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem, and if so how did they overcome it? btw, I noticed nothing has been posted to http://www.linux.sgi.com for over a year. is anyone still working/interested in linux-mips? -- Scott Thomas Program Manager Trident Systems Inc. Phone: (703) 359-6226 Fax: (703) 273-6608 Email: scott@tridsys.com Web: http://www.tridsys.com From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 08:57:15 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:57:06 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:14385 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:56:45 -0700 Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-nodin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.193]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id IAA18497; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:40:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA77038; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA39574 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:34:21 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA21960 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from mail.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id IAA09021 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (Harald.Koerfgen@home.ivm.de) Received: from franz.no.dom (port60.duesseldorf.ivm.de [195.247.65.60]) by mail.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12063; Wed, 31 May 2000 17:29:56 +0200 X-To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200005301752.CAA06812@newsa.net.arch.sony.co.jp> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Harald Koerfgen Organization: none From: Harald Koerfgen To: Hiroshi Kawashima Subject: RE: Compile speed on SGI/Linux (like Indy) Cc: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing Hi. On 30-May-00 Hiroshi Kawashima wrote: > I'm one of member of Linux-VR project (porting Linux on NEC VR41xx based WinCE > machines) http://linux-vr.org/ . > > I've almostly completed porting Kernel Floating Emulation of > Linux/Mips to Linux-VR, so I'm moving to building userland (hard-float). > > Since VR41xx based WinCE machine is very slow, I'm now considering to > buy SGI machines to build userland binaries. That won't help you, I´m afraid, if you want to natively build userland stuff. To my knowledge all SGI boxes are configured in big endian mode, where all CE machines are little endian. A Cobalt RaQ would probably be better for what you want. -- Regards, Harald From owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Wed May 31 13:21:17 2000 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:21:07 -0700 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:31790 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:20:43 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id NAA05757; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA50938 for linux-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:37:00 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id NAA50918; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:36:58 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (unidial.com [206.112.0.9]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id NAA03725; Wed, 31 May 2000 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (neuroinc@unidial.com) Received: from unidial.com (IDENT:root@2Cust93.tnt32.chi5.da.uu.net [63.28.52.93]) by unidial.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15639; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39357572.2A26137F@unidial.com> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:26:26 -0500 From: Alan Hoyt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulf Carlsson CC: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, jimix@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: MIPS64 ABI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing I can provide a tar.gz wad of the html files. I have a few tapes left - will search for any remaining material (additional html, ps, pdf, etc..). It's going to have to wait until the weekend though - I have a major deadline coming up with very few free cycles to spare. - Alan Hoyt - Ulf Carlsson wrote: > Hm.. this was *interesting*. I haven't seen this 64-bit MIPS psABI. Is there > any chance that I can my hands on a postscript of them? Maybe you could > provide a tar.gz of the HTML documents... > > Ulf